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[00:00:01] also put on the table that that name I didn't like it, it made me feel uncomfortable,
[00:00:04] it made me feel bad.
[00:00:07] And well, when I took that name and it was Paula, it was like this
[00:00:10] is me. There it stayed. Well, in my
[00:00:14] case, when I was younger, I was 5 years old when I started
[00:00:18] school. My first, my first teacher was named
[00:00:21] Solange. She was
[00:00:24] blonde, so she was like my inspiration. From then on, I said I was
[00:00:28] going to be called Solange. This
[00:00:30] in my games, which were never children's games but rather a girl's games, I
[00:00:34] would put on a yellow towel that looked like blonde
[00:00:37] hair, heels, a tunic for the teacher, and I would call myself Solange. From then on,
[00:00:42] I feel, as a girl, therefore I'm going to I kept growing and I kept being Solange, saying that my name was Solange, that I was going to be called Solange.
[00:00:46] And when I was 16 years old,
[00:00:50] I confronted my family and told them that I was going to be a
[00:00:53] trans woman, that that was going to be
[00:00:56] my name. And well, from
[00:01:00] then on, in reality, from the age of 5, I knew it clearly,
[00:01:02] it was going to be in the groups of classmates and
[00:01:06] children. Already as a child, I used to say I was Solange. That's how it was, and
[00:01:10] I am Solange. When I changed my name, I put
[00:01:13] Genesis. This is so
[00:01:17] that from childhood, from the age of 5, my
[00:01:21] first school teacher was my inspiration for the
[00:01:25] name.
[00:01:36] feminism, and what My name is Elías, I'm
[00:01:39] 23 years old, I'm from Montevideo, I was born here in
[00:01:44] you have a job because you have to survive because you Montevideo. Well, I'm a trans person, a trans man. I started my transition 4
[00:01:48] years ago, not emotionally, emotionally much
[00:01:52] longer, since childhood,
[00:01:53] approximately.
[00:02:04] I take male hormones to be able to feel comfortable in my body.
[00:02:07] It's been 2 years since I was able to change my name and
[00:02:11] identity. I had surgery a year
[00:02:14] ago, the issue of removing my breasts to feel much more
[00:02:17] comfortable with myself. I never
[00:02:20] had, I never suffered discrimination,
[00:02:25] to what people suffer it. I didn't have those
[00:02:28] problems, fortunately I have... I had a job
[00:02:31] opportunity, I was able to study without any
[00:02:34] inconvenience. Well, I had my inconveniences but it was never
[00:02:37] a problem that made me feel
[00:02:41] this, with lip bad about myself. So, well, personally, I was
[00:02:54] I'm not studying at the moment and well, I would tell people
[00:02:58] who are in the same situation as me that they should never
[00:03:03] I am very happy with the changes that have happened through let anyone intimidate them or stop
[00:03:06] being who they are because of what others say, and that they should be themselves, which
[00:03:09] is clearly the key to being happy.
[00:03:21] hello
[00:03:28] I'm Paula Moreno, I live in Yes, it happened to me that I had to clarify to a sale, "Look, I'm a man, you can call me that because I
[00:03:32] see it coming that they're going to call me before the name change by the other
[00:03:35] name." And it happened to me that I'm standing there
[00:03:39] waiting for them to take my blood, they come and call me by the female
[00:03:42] name, and my blood pressure drops, I
[00:03:46] die of embarrassment, it's a terrible feeling because the name is like that,
[00:03:49] right? Like in the educational system, for example, that thing about the hegemonic
[00:03:53] power of the teacher often saying, "I'm going to call you what's on the
[00:03:57] list." Well, but I don't feel that way. In high school, in my final
[00:04:00] year, since it was a small
[00:04:04] town, everyone already knew me as Solange, and they called me Solange. Here there's always a
[00:04:08] my family got the image of teacher who well, it happened to me with one that I remember, she was
[00:04:11] I was studying my final year of law in
[00:04:15] Chuy High School, and she was a teacher who taught law, precisely. So
[00:04:18] when the teacher arrived, in the first class, I explained, "I am a trans woman.
[00:04:22] If you don't want to call me by the name everyone knows me by,
[00:04:26] which is Solange, then call me by my last name. There's
[00:04:29] no problem." So I told her, and she said, "I have to
[00:04:33] call you," she says, "and I have to call you by the name on your
[00:04:36] document, your document." So I said, "Well,
[00:04:40] if you call me by the name on that document in front of everyone
[00:04:43] as a mockery, because I also
[00:04:46] and clean them and put talc on them always had character, I'll put that folder on your head." That's what I
[00:04:49] told her, "Because you're not going to disrespect
[00:04:52] I know all those me." I told her, "You don't like me, I'm Solange, and I'm probably
[00:04:57] in many cases in more woman than you." That was her answer to the teacher. We ended up
[00:05:00] in the principal's office, of course, the principal knew me, she knew who I
[00:05:03] presented my situation to, all upset because we immediately get upset,
[00:05:07] and and I said no, and well
[00:05:10] she said no.
[00:05:43] Well, it was
[00:05:47] a journey
[00:05:48] with many ups and
[00:05:51] downs. At the beginning,
[00:05:54] it was a whole revolution
[00:05:57] in my family, in the
[00:06:01] neighborhood, in my city,
[00:06:04] in the study center I attended.
[00:06:08] It was a whole big whirlwind.
[00:06:15] But well, I went through difficult
[00:06:18] things, I went through very difficult
[00:06:22] things for the age I was, I was 14 years
[00:06:25] old,
[00:06:28] and well, with
[00:06:32] the support of my family
[00:06:35] and me trying to make some things
[00:06:38] understood, and with a lot of patience from them.
[00:06:41] I
[00:06:44] went through that path as best
[00:06:47] I could, and
[00:06:51] well, becoming Morena
[00:06:54] took a lot of work,
[00:06:57] a lot of sacrifice,
[00:07:00] dedication,
[00:07:02] and
[00:07:05] a lot of discipline too. I'm a person
[00:07:08] who, well, who tries to take care of myself, I try
[00:07:11] to do the best I can,
[00:07:13] and
[00:07:17] well, that path is what has
[00:07:20] brought me here.
[00:07:23] 6 PM, 13 degrees, and we welcome you to Mirá
[00:07:27] Montevideo. Good afternoon, More, how are you? Good afternoon, Noe, very well, and you? Very
[00:07:30] well, happy to be here with you another day. For me too, and
[00:07:34] let's see what's coming this weekend. Recognize me
[00:07:38] as trans. Don't
[00:07:41] call me that woman. That for me is not a
[00:07:44] compliment. No, if you say it as a
[00:07:47] compliment, you are totally wrong. Yes,
[00:07:50] yes, oh, for me it's not a compliment. It happened to me, "Oh, you look like a man."
[00:07:54] Seriously? And it's like, "What is a man, seriously?
[00:07:58] I am a man." Even if I was born in another body, even if I identified in another
[00:08:02] way years later, it doesn't mean I'm less of a man than a man. Yes,
[00:08:05] that, that happens a lot, that they say, I think that's the process we each have when we
[00:08:09] accept ourselves, of not recognizing. I
[00:08:12] am trans, I like being trans, I want to be trans. I
[00:08:16] don't fight to be a woman. Exactly, exactly. So it's
[00:08:19] like that, what she says, when you already recognize yourself and accept
[00:08:23] yourself, then
[00:08:25] you see it from another perspective.
[00:08:41] Las Piedras, Canelones. I'm an activist, I'm a trans
[00:08:44] girl, I'm the first transgender DJ in
[00:08:48] Uruguay. I have a clothing
[00:08:52] business, it's a textile business where we employ
[00:08:55] trans women. Look carefully in the
[00:08:58] middle.
[00:09:05] I work in a health center for a few years now. I'm an
[00:09:08] ex-sex worker, and
[00:09:10] I work to promote the rights of trans
[00:09:13] people.
[00:09:21] Being an activist changed me
[00:09:24] a lot. It's who I am. The
[00:09:28] struggle is what motivates me, and well.
[00:09:49] How do you feel when there's a debate, for example, in the feminist movement, in
[00:09:52] certain groups that say
[00:09:55] that feminism is only for cisgender women?
[00:09:58] How do you feel? They laugh,
[00:10:01] saying, "What a shitty topic," to lie. In reality,
[00:10:05] my laugh sounds ironic, but for
[00:10:08] me, feminism is
[00:10:10] inclusive. Yes, feminism is to protect,
[00:10:14] to support all our companions.
[00:10:17] There's a sector of feminism, because it's important to clarify it's a
[00:10:20] sector that discriminates against us, that
[00:10:24] ...slowly, saying that we are not
[00:10:27] women because biologically we have a penis.
[00:10:31] So, me. I'm represented by a feminism that is
[00:10:35] inclusive, that supports companions, that supports struggles from
[00:10:38] an intersectional
[00:10:41] place. No, this,
[00:10:44] for me, feminism is that. It's
[00:10:47] all women, dissidences, together, and
[00:10:51] I don't think there's any other feminism. The...
[00:10:55] the other is like
[00:10:57] another feminism. No, we feel like there's also
[00:11:00] a group that seeks to break
[00:11:04] with this, no, with this struggle, to distort
[00:11:08] a little bit what the feminist struggle of us women is.
[00:11:12] So, even from
[00:11:15] feminism,
[00:11:18] from inclusive feminism, from real,
[00:11:22] true feminism, there's an attempt
[00:11:25] not to call these
[00:11:29] radical people feminists, no, but they have
[00:11:32] a lot of, they have strength, and it's reaching
[00:11:35] Uruguay, and we always say it won't reach Uruguay, and
[00:11:39] it ends up reaching, and it seemed like it wouldn't, but you saw what
[00:11:42] happened in Spain with the comprehensive law for trans people, I mean,
[00:11:46] this group of women, no,
[00:11:50] it made it so that it wasn't voted on, that it wasn't approved,
[00:11:53] no, in Spain. So they're doing a lot of harm,
[00:11:57] and feminism, at least I understand
[00:12:01] I've learned from my feminist
[00:12:05] teachers is that feminism is a
[00:12:08] life position, a philosophical position
[00:12:12] from which you look at everything, oh,
[00:12:15] so this thing about to be a feminist you have to have
[00:12:18] a vagina, no my love, we
[00:12:21] build ourselves as feminists,
[00:12:24] you, him, her, them, we
[00:12:27] build ourselves as feminists, just like that thing about if you're a man you
[00:12:31] can't be a feminist, for me that's nonsense,
[00:12:34] it's a philosophy, it's a
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[00:14:40] the family always realizes when we are, what happens is they're kind of waiting if
[00:14:43] we say it or I mean,
[00:14:47] let's see what happens, but they realize we're different. In my case,
[00:14:51] there were six, six, six sons and two daughters, and they realized
[00:14:55] that I, among the six sons, didn't fit in, I had nothing to do with the rest of my siblings, not in
[00:14:59] my activities, nor in my behavior, nor in what I did,
[00:15:02] nor how I played, nothing. But they always remain
[00:15:05] waiting to see if someone takes the first step and says it. At 16
[00:15:08] years old, already in my adolescence, I
[00:15:12] felt that I didn't want to live a wrong life. When I say a wrong
[00:15:15] life, it's about pretending something I wasn't,
[00:15:19] dressing like something I didn't feel, which is the biggest problem for me,
[00:15:23] because I felt like Solange, I was Solange, so no, I didn't identify with how
[00:15:26] I dressed. So, well, I remember that my family is a large
[00:15:30] family, as I told you. My mom was building a
[00:15:33] wall because my house was always the one my mom would bring home, even my dad. Building our
[00:15:37] house, and well, the long table, and in my house it was customary
[00:15:40] for the heads of the family, mom and dad, to sit at the head of the table, and then the others. So,
[00:15:44] well, I waited and told them I wanted to talk to them,
[00:15:48] that I had something to tell them at
[00:15:51] lunch, and
[00:15:54] and I told my mom that, well, in reality, I was Solange,
[00:15:58] I told them off camera what my name was, that it
[00:16:01] was not dad, that I told him I didn't identify with that
[00:16:05] name, that in reality I identified with Solange, that I was not
[00:16:09] him but her, and that well, from then on, I was going to be a
[00:16:13] trans woman. My mom asked me what that was because people in the countryside
[00:16:16] didn't know what trans was. I told her, "Well, I'm going to live as
[00:16:20] dress as a woman, look here,
[00:16:23] I'm going to behave as a woman." And
[00:16:27] I told her that if they accepted me, fine, if not, they would lose a
[00:16:30] son and miss out on knowing a daughter, because I wasn't going to be unhappy for them
[00:16:34] to be happy. I
[00:16:36] remember telling her, "I'll cross the street and leave, and you won't see me again, but I'm going to
[00:16:40] live my life according to how I feel." My parents' response, he
[00:16:43] talked to him off camera,
[00:16:46] I think this is very important when we have support. My mom, who
[00:16:50] was always the head of the house, dad did what mom said,
[00:16:54] said, "What hope? I didn't have to leave, if someone didn't
[00:16:57] like my change and my decision, they should leave, but not
[00:17:01] me." It's like something strange because when parents
[00:17:04] called someone by that name their whole life, from that day on,
[00:17:08] my mom, my dad, and my siblings never
[00:17:12] called me by the name I had before. It was Solange,
[00:17:15] Sol, because they call me Sol, and it was like an automatic
[00:17:18] thing, and it was very good for me because then I had to face other
[00:17:22] things, like high school already dressed as a girl,
[00:17:25] society in a small town, I mean,
[00:17:29] but since I had the support of my family, the truth is it was
[00:17:32] much easier for me.
[00:17:35] The delay in processing the Peña case had
[00:17:38] not so much to do with anything
[00:17:41] special about the Peña case, but rather it was the way the
[00:17:45] state processed. My name is Genesis Solange,
[00:17:49] eh, I am a law student, I am in my third year at the Law
[00:17:52] School of the University of the Republic,
[00:17:55] eh, I am the secretary of the Trans Collective of Uruguay (CTU),
[00:17:59] in which I am dedicated
[00:18:02] is changes, helping with name changes for trans women and
[00:18:06] trans men. And well, we are working in
[00:18:09] reality, contributing from our place, from my place,
[00:18:13] what we can for others.
[00:18:25] That's a photo of me when I lived in Madrid, I lived many years in
[00:18:28] Europe, 10 years, I worked as
[00:18:31] a model in
[00:18:34] Spain, as a trans woman that I am.
[00:18:40] the law, I am very happy to have returned to my country after many
[00:18:44] years of living in Europe, and well, I think it is a way of
[00:18:48] giving back, that it is from our place where
[00:18:51] we can contribute something, help society.
[00:21:01] family always knew that I was different.
[00:21:05] It was never really talked about because,
[00:21:09] well, we're talking about the 70s, so there was nothing.
[00:21:12] Coming to Montevideo, the connection with Montevideo was like
[00:21:16] we came by train and all that.
[00:21:20] This, and well, and at some point, when
[00:21:23] we were already, I came to Montevideo to study. In
[00:21:27] reality, I'm always going to confess something, no,
[00:21:30] in reality I've said it at some point, I actually came to Montevideo to
[00:21:34] study to be a priest. I
[00:21:37] came, yes, laugh, please, I beg
[00:21:39] you. I made a strong
[00:21:43] statement. I came to the seminary, the
[00:21:46] Salesian seminary, in reality. That
[00:21:50] from now on is like, well, I want to leave this place and I want to lock
[00:21:54] myself up and I want to isolate myself,
[00:21:58] because I am the different person, and well, then there's obviously
[00:22:02] I was expelled from the seminary, there was an abuse there
[00:22:06] within the seminary, and they ended up
[00:22:08] expelling me. This,
[00:22:11] because, well, I was the culprit, supposedly.
[00:22:15] And well, there
[00:22:17] my family had already come, and I told them, "Well, I
[00:22:21] at that time I didn't
[00:22:23] feel like myself, but I didn't have
[00:22:26] another model than the gay model, no,
[00:22:30] like the era of the more 80s
[00:22:33] era, no, when Freddy
[00:22:37] Mercury and all this stuff came out, so it was like my model, well,
[00:22:41] I want to be that. And well, and
[00:22:43] after that, eh, it was in Arcoiris
[00:22:47] that I started to meet trans companions,
[00:22:50] who were like, wow, how divine, how
[00:22:53] impressive, that's possible, impressive those very tall women
[00:22:57] with beautiful heels, with breasts, I don't know,
[00:23:01] I'm talking about Katy,
[00:23:04] Doriana, Taiana, all those people,
[00:23:07] no, who went and all dressed divinely,
[00:23:11] spectacular, with some, I want to be
[00:23:13] that. And well, that's
[00:23:16] when, well, it was just the time I entered there.
[00:23:20] I feminized
[00:23:22] myself a lot there. That's when I also tell this, no, that
[00:23:26] I entered, I went to Elipa, made up, very
[00:23:28] softly,
[00:23:31] gloss, all
[00:23:33] this. And the teacher told me, "So you're not going to be here."
[00:23:37] So then I said,
[00:23:41] "Well, let's see, I have two options: I stop
[00:23:45] and engage in sex work,
[00:23:48] or I cross- dress, that is, I dress as a man,
[00:23:52] I study." And
[00:23:54] honestly,
[00:23:57] I don't have the temperament for sex work. I admire
[00:24:01] the companions who engage in sex work because it's a very
[00:24:05] violent place, you have to be very strong, you go
[00:24:08] through many things, and
[00:24:11] no, no, no, I am
[00:24:14] dumb, no. So I said, "Well, okay, I
[00:24:17] also want to study," and I said, "Well, that's what I
[00:24:21] call my transvestite era." There, in that
[00:24:24] middle, I told my family about this
[00:24:28] issue, that, well, I don't want to be, I
[00:24:31] don't want to be, I am,
[00:24:35] I see myself, and I see myself
[00:24:37] as a woman, no? So at that time,
[00:24:41] no one talked about trans people, they were
[00:24:44] transvestites, right?
[00:24:47] So, clearly, my family,
[00:24:50] immediately, at that moment we lived here in La Comercial, we were four
[00:24:54] blocks from the boulevard, immediately
[00:24:58] the sex worker companions, no?
[00:25:01] So, well, there was a lot of resistance, yes, because people
[00:25:05] also, I mean, when you said trans, it automatically associated that trans with
[00:25:09] prostitution, there was nothing else. A little later, the mind
[00:25:12] opened up when Florencia de la V came along, she was like
[00:25:15] a, this, when the TV shows started and people started to see and
[00:25:19] she said, "Well, they can do other things," but unfortunately, before,
[00:25:23] you said trans, people said prostitution. Even now, I think this
[00:25:26] still happens because people have that concept of trans
[00:25:29] people, which is like transvestite
[00:25:32] prostitution, prostitution, HIV. It's like an
[00:25:36] equation.
[00:25:39] drugs, everything else, it's an equation that is
[00:25:43] made, it's an expulsion that starts
[00:25:47] the family, no? Of course,
[00:25:51] generally the first, the first factor of violence that trans people experience is in
[00:25:54] our homes, with our parents, with our siblings. In my
[00:25:58] case, I started my transition in Buenos Aires. I must have been
[00:26:01] seven or eight years old, and I already realized
[00:26:05] that what my parents were imposing on me, which was to play
[00:26:08] soccer, wear masculine clothes, I didn't feel
[00:26:11] identified, I suffered a lot
[00:26:14] from this. But I affirmed myself when I came to Uruguay. When I came to
[00:26:17] Uruguay, I met this person who was like my
[00:26:20] referent, she was an older trans girl
[00:26:23] who worked on the street, well, and when
[00:26:26] I started to strengthen my identity, that's when the family
[00:26:29] consequences began, that my siblings started to
[00:26:32] violently abuse me,
[00:26:36] and well, all that you start to experience inside your house, and I had to leave my house because
[00:26:39] obviously it was constant violence because not only do they discriminate
[00:26:43] against you for being trans, but also the neighborhood discriminates against your
[00:26:46] family, I mean, it's like it's a shame,
[00:26:49] you bring shame to your house. Exactly, exactly.
[00:26:53] The two spaces that should be more
[00:26:55] friendly, which are family and
[00:26:59] education, are the most violent, and they still
[00:27:02] are today, 2021, I mean, we're not talking
[00:27:06] about the 80s, Paula
[00:27:09] is like 40 years younger than
[00:27:11] me, no, let's say,
[00:27:15] friend,
[00:27:17] this. But I mean, she also experienced it, no?
[00:27:20] That is, and today, 2021, the companions, the comrades are still
[00:27:24] experiencing it. So imagine that
[00:27:28] suddenly you have people who are 13, 14 years
[00:27:31] old who are expelled from their family, and those people are not
[00:27:34] going to continue studying. That also, that's the consequences
[00:27:38] that it brings, no, because for example, you leave at an early age from your homes, from your
[00:27:41] home, you go straight to prostitution because you have no other choice because you don't
[00:27:47] have to manage somehow, yes, wherever you end up
[00:27:50] also, wherever you end up, of course, it's not that they exploit
[00:27:53] you later because those who exploit you, who arrived at their
[00:27:57] house as young girls and charge you for everything and make you work
[00:28:01] for them because generally the girls from the interior, and well, you who came from
[00:28:04] abroad, when you end up in someone's house, well, yes, mommy, you have
[00:28:08] to work, I'll give you this other thing, they charged you double, of course, I
[00:28:12] feel that it's an important problem because you're exposed to extreme
[00:28:16] violence in those spaces, right? Like human trafficking,
[00:28:19] problematic drug use, being alone, because in
[00:28:22] reality, if you leave your home, your own family excludes you for
[00:28:26] being "different," I say that in quotes, right? Because you have a gender
[00:28:30] identity that is not what your family
[00:28:32] or society expects. You have to leave those spaces
[00:28:35] or repress yourself, right?
[00:28:40] clear that I wanted to be happy. I wanted to be happy being myself, which has also been
[00:28:44] very difficult because this concept of happiness
[00:28:47] that we have is actually quite
[00:28:50] complex, right? Because we are not completely happy because to this day
[00:28:54] we continue fighting for inclusion, we continue fighting for work,
[00:28:58] and well, and I think that...
[00:29:03] it helped me a lot at this point of well, either I'm
[00:29:06] happy or I'm happy because I have no other choice.
[00:29:09] So, nothing, I see it from that
[00:29:12] perspective, eh, and I also regret a lot that many colleagues,
[00:29:15] 89% of trans women,
[00:29:18] it's the only means of survival they have because they don't have access to
[00:29:21] anything, really, they don't have access to a good job, they are
[00:29:25] discriminated against, they are violated, this
[00:29:28] so well, it's sad
[00:29:31] also for me, at least I see it that way, I was a sex worker for a long
[00:29:35] time until I realized that it wasn't the place I wanted
[00:29:39] to be. I started fighting, I started
[00:29:41] studying, working, looking, knocking on those doors, eh, and
[00:29:45] well, there I went, I was changing this
[00:29:48] reality, right? Because also, we have to set goals and we have to believe
[00:29:52] that one can also change their own reality and be able
[00:29:56] to help other colleagues change this
[00:29:59] sad reality that we people have, that's why I said today that in my case
[00:30:02] I value this so much in the family, let's say, that it
[00:30:06] matters that it was a town where I was formed, this, I had a mother who
[00:30:10] was a warrior, this, who came out to defend me more than once,
[00:30:13] the importance of when girls have family
[00:30:17] support, which today I see because I dedicate myself to name changes,
[00:30:21] I help my colleagues and I value so much when those
[00:30:24] mothers call me and tell me that their daughter or son is
[00:30:28] 5 years old, 7 years old, 8 years old and they are already
[00:30:32] moving and fighting to make the change of name and gender adaptation of their
[00:30:35] son, of their daughter and
[00:30:38] I say how good if this had happened before for so many colleagues,
[00:30:55] my name is Colette Spinetti, I am
[00:30:58] an activist.