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[00:00:30] >> Paul: TONIGHT, TWO YOUNG PEOPLE CHARGED WITH SHOOTING AT THE U.S. CONSULATE IN TORONTO,
[00:00:34] ONE OF THEM JUST 15 YEARS OLD.
[00:00:37] >> IT'S HIGH TIME WE STOPPED THE REVOLVING DOOR OF YOUNG PEOPLE
[00:00:41] AND YOUNG ADULTS BEING ENGAGED
[00:00:43] IN THIS KIND OF BRAZEN ACTIVITY.
[00:00:45] >> Paul: A DRIVE-BY SHOOTING AND HIGH-SPEED CHASE.
[00:00:49] NOW POLICE SAY THE SUSPECTS WERE HIRED THROUGH ENCRYPTED APPS,
[00:00:52] AND IT'S NOT THE FIRST TIME.
[00:00:56] >>> TRADE TALKS RAMP UP IN WASHINGTON AS LEADERS TRADE JABS.
[00:00:59] >> President Trump: CANADA'S NASTY. THEY ARE.
[00:01:03] THEY ARE NASTY. >> Paul: HOW MARK CARNEY
[00:01:05] RESPONDED.
[00:01:08] >>> SUMMER CAMPS ACROSS CANADA
[00:01:09] SAY ENROLMENT IS DOWN.
[00:01:12] >> SUMMER CAMP IS ONE OF THESE,
[00:01:15] LIKE, LAST BASTIENS OF
[00:01:18] UNPLUGGED, UNBRIDLED JOY FOR KIDS. >> Paul: WHY THESE DAYS FEWER
[00:01:21] KIDS ARE HEADING OFF TO CAMP. ♪
[00:01:24] >> Announcer: FROM CBC NEWS,
[00:01:32] TWO YOUNG SUSPECTS ARE UNDER ARREST TONIGHT AFTER ALLEGEDLY
[00:01:36] FIRING SHOTS AT THE U.S. CONSULATE BUILDING IN TORONTO LAST WEEK.
[00:01:40] POLICE BELIEVE THEY WERE
[00:01:42] RECRUITED ONLINE THROUGH
[00:01:44] ENCRYPTED MESSAGING APPS AS PART
[00:01:47] OF A GROWING CRIMINALS FOR HIRE NETWORK STRETCHING FAR BEYOND
[00:01:49] THIS LATEST ATTACK. THOMAS DAIGLE NOW WITH THE
[00:01:53] INVESTIGATION AND THE UNANSWERED QUESTIONS AT ITS CENTRE: WHO IS
[00:01:56] ORDERING THE VIOLENCE?
[00:01:57] AND WHY?
[00:02:04] >> Thomas: POLICE SAY INSIDE THAT STOLEN WHITE SEDAN LAST
[00:02:06] WEEK WERE A 15-YEAR-OLD AND A 19-YEAR-OLD, CARRYING OUT AN
[00:02:09] EARLY-MORNING DRIVE-BY SHOOTING AT TORONTO'S U.S. CONSULATE.
[00:02:12] WATCH CLOSELY, AND IT APPEARS SOMEONE IN THE PASSENGER SEAT
[00:02:15] FIRES AT LEAST TWO ROUNDS BEFORE THE SUSPECTS LEAD OFFERS ON A
[00:02:19] HIGH-SPEED CHASE.
[00:02:22] >> IT'S HIGH TIME WE STOP THE REVOLVING DOOR OF YOUNG PEOPLE
[00:02:25] AND YOUNG ADULTS BEING ENGAGED IN THIS KIND OF BRAZEN ACTIVITY.
[00:02:28] >> Thomas: POLICE SAY THE PAIR
[00:02:30] NOW FACE A TOTAL OF 32 CHARGES.
[00:02:33] INVESTIGATORS SAY BOTH ACCUSED
[00:02:34] WERE RECRUITED THROUGH ENCRYPTED
[00:02:37] MESSAGING APPS, JUST LIKE THE SUSPECTS LINKED TO ANOTHER
[00:02:40] SHOOTING AT THE CONSULATE IN
[00:02:42] MARCH, PLUS A STRING OF ATTACKS ON LOCAL JEWISH INSTITUTIONS,
[00:02:46] AND THIS ALLEGED MURDER PLOT
[00:02:48] TARGETING A JAIL OFFICER.
[00:02:51] >> SHOOTINGS, HOMICIDES, ARSONS
[00:02:53] ARE ALL BEING ORDERED THROUGH
[00:02:56] ONLINE APPS, AND THEY ARE ALL GETTING PAID DIFFERENT -- OR
[00:02:59] OFFERED TO GET PAID DIFFERENT
[00:03:00] COMPENSATION FOR EACH.
[00:03:03] >> Thomas: WHAT'S MORE, POLICE PREVIOUSLY SAID ATTACKERS ARE
[00:03:07] REQUIRED TO RECORD THEIR CRIMES TO GET PAID.
[00:03:10] >> WHAT CAN YOU SAY ABOUT WHETHER THIS GUNS-FOR-HIRE SCHEME IS STILL ACTIVE RIGHT
[00:03:13] NOW? >> WE HAVE MULTIPLE INVESTIGATIONS TRYING TO
[00:03:17] DETERMINE EACH LEVEL OF THESE SCHEMES. WE HAVE NOT ARRESTED EVERYBODY
[00:03:21] THAT'S BEEN INVOLVED WITH THIS. >> Thomas: JUST WHO'S PAYING AND THEIR MOTIVE REMAIN A FOCUS OF
[00:03:24] THE INVESTIGATION. IN MAY, U.S. AUTHORITIES
[00:03:27] EXTRADITED AN IRAQI MILITANT LEADER LINKED TO IRAN SUSPECTED
[00:03:31] OF ORDERING ATTACKS, INCLUDING THE MARCH CONSULATE SHOOTING IN TORONTO.
[00:03:35] >> IT'S IMPERATIVE THAT OUR NATIONAL SECURITY AGENCIES GET
[00:03:38] TO THE ROOT OF THE PROBLEM. >> Thomas: POLICE SAY DOZENS OF
[00:03:41] INDIVIDUALS HAVE SHOWN THEY ARE WILLING TO TAKE ON THESE CONTRACTS FOR SHOOTINGS AND
[00:03:45] ARSONS. CRUCIALLY, THOUGH, INVESTIGATORS SAY THEY ARE STILL WORKING TO
[00:03:48] IDENTIFY WHO IS ORDERING ALL THESE ATTACKS.
[00:03:51] THOMAS DAIGLE, CBC NEWS,
[00:03:53] TORONTO. >> Paul: AND ANOTHER UPDATE FROM
[00:03:57] TORONTO POLICE, ARRESTS HAVE BEEN MADE IN LAST MONTH'S DEADLY
[00:04:00] SHOOTING AT THE SALSA ON ST. CLAIRE FESTIVAL.
[00:04:04] >> WE HAVE APPREHENDED THE PERSONS RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT
[00:04:08] INCIDENT. A NOTE OF GRATITUDE TO OUR
[00:04:12] HOMICIDE TEAM WHO HAVE BEEN WORKING TIRELESSLY. >> Paul: TWO MEN WERE KILLED IN
[00:04:15] AN EXCHANGE OF GUNFIRE AT THE BUSY WEEKEND EVENT. FIVE OTHERS WERE INJURED.
[00:04:19] POLICE SAY THE SUSPECTS WERE TAKEN INTO CUSTODY WEDNESDAY EVENING.
[00:04:22] WE'RE TOLD HOMICIDE INVESTIGATORS ARE STILL ACTIVELY WORKING THE CASE AND WILL
[00:04:26] PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON FRIDAY. >>> TRADE TALKS IN WASHINGTON
[00:04:30] ARE BEING DESCRIBED AS CONSTRUCTIVE TONIGHT AFTER A
[00:04:33] MEETING BETWEEN CANADIAN AND U.S. NEGOTIATORS.
[00:04:36] THIS AFTER DONALD TRUMP PUBLICLY
[00:04:39] CALLED CANADA'S
[00:04:41] LEADERSHIP "NASTY."
[00:04:43] KATE McKENNA SHOWS US HOW MARK CARNEY IS RESPONDING AND THE
[00:04:47] EFFORTS TO REACH A DEAL.KATE Mc CARNEY IS RESPONDING AND THE
[00:04:51] EFFORTS TO REACH A DEAL.KATE Mc CARNEY IS RESPONDING AND THE EFFORTS TO REACH A DEAL.LEADERS" KATE McKENNA SHOWS US HOW MARK CARNEY IS RESPONDING AND THE
[00:04:54] EFFORTS TO REACH A DEAL. >> Reporter: THIS IS THE MAIN EVENT OF U.S.-CANADA TRADE MINISTER DOMINIC LEBLANC'S TRIP TO WASHINGTON, MEETING WITH HIS AMERICAN COUNTERPART U.S. TRADE
[00:04:58] REPRESENTATIVE JAMIESON GREER, A SIGN OF MOMENTUM, SAYS THIS
[00:05:01] TRUMP ALLY. >> I JUST FEEL LIKE THIS IS THE
[00:05:04] MOMENT BECAUSE I DON'T BELIEVE THAT WOULD HAVE HAPPENED UNLESS
[00:05:07] DONALD TRUMP HAD GIVEN THE GREEN LIGHT TO AMBASSADOR GREER TO DO
[00:05:10] THAT. >> Reporter: SOON AFTER LEBLANC
[00:05:13] POSTED ON SOCIAL MEDIA SAYING HE AND CHIEF TRADE NEGOTIATOR
[00:05:16] JANICE CHARETTE HAD A CONSTRUCTIVE AND DETAILED
[00:05:19] MEETING WITH AMBASSADOR GREER. NEGOTIATIONS ARE IN FULL SWING
[00:05:22] AHEAD OF AN AUGUST 19 DEADLINE FOR A NEW SET OF PUNISHING
[00:05:25] TARIFFS ON A SWATH OF CANADIAN
[00:05:28] EXPORTS RANGING FROM CEMENT TO HOCKEY STICKS. >> I GET THE IMPRESSION THAT THE
[00:05:32] AMERICAN SIDE IS ALSO AT THE TABLE AND IS ALSO MOTIVATED TO GET US SOMEWHERE.
[00:05:36] WHERE WE'LL END UP, THAT WILL
[00:05:37] REMAIN TO BE SEEN.
[00:05:41] >> Prime Minister Carney: PROTECTING OUR JOBS. >> Reporter: PRIME MINISTER MARK CARNEY SAYS HE WANTS ANY FUTURE
[00:05:44] AGREEMENT TO COVER ALL SECTORS AFFECTED BY TARIFFS, INCLUDING STEEL, ALUMINUM, LUMBER AND
[00:05:48] AUTO. >> Prime Minister Carney: WITH RESPECT TO A DEAL, WE'RE
[00:05:51] INTERESTED IN MORE COMPREHENSIVE DEAL, MORE GLOBAL DEAL THAT
[00:05:54] ADDRESSES THE STRATEGIC SECTORS. >> Reporter: PUBLICLY, BOTH
[00:05:57] LEADERS HAVE TRADED JABS WITH CARNEY MOCKING DONALD TRUMP ON
[00:06:01] WEDNESDAY WHEN HIS TELEPROMPTER BROKE. >> Prime Minister Carney: UNLIKE
[00:06:04] A CERTAIN WORLD LEADER, I DO NOT VIEW THIS AS A CONSPIRACY. >> Reporter: THEN DURING A
[00:06:08] SPEECH IN LAS VEGAS, TRUMP TARGETED CANADA.
[00:06:12] >> President Trump: CANADA IS NASTY. THEY ARE. THEY ARE NASTY.
[00:06:15] PEOPLE THINK CANADA -- THEY'RE NASTY. I LOVE THE PEOPLE, BUT THEY ARE NASTY, NASTY LEADERSHIP.
[00:06:19] >> Prime Minister Carney: WHATEVER ADJECTIVE IS USED, YES, WE ARE STANDING UP FOR CANADIAN
[00:06:22] WORKERS, FOR CANADIAN BUSINESSES, AS WE ALWAYS HAVE FROM THE START.
[00:06:26] >> Reporter: CONSERVATIVE LEADER PIERRE POILIEVRE SAYS CANADA'S ALREADY MADE CONCESSIONS AND
[00:06:30] GOTTEN NO DEAL IN RETURN. >> WE'RE CALLING ON HIM TO TAKE
[00:06:33] THE LEVERAGE THAT HE HAS NOT YET SQUANDERED, TAKE IT TO THE
[00:06:37] BARGAINING TABLE AND GET SOMETHING IN RETURN FOR A CHANGE.
[00:06:40] >> Reporter: MARK CARNEY SAID AGAIN TODAY HE'S PERSONALLY
[00:06:44] INVOLVED IN NEGOTIATIONS AND THAT HE'S SPOKEN TO DONALD TRUMP
[00:06:47] AS RECENTLY AS LAST WEEK. >> Paul: AND KATE, SO I MEAN,
[00:06:50] WHAT CAN YOU TELL US ABOUT WHAT COMES NEXT? >> Reporter: WELL, CANADIAN
[00:06:54] OFFICIALS SEEM ENCOURAGED BY TODAY'S MEETING. THIS IS THE SECOND MEETING WITH
[00:06:57] GREER IN TWO WEEKS. IT WAS SCHEDULED FOR 30 MINUTES.
[00:07:00] IT ENDED UP BEING AN HOUR AND A HALF, BUT WHETHER THEY ARE
[00:07:03] MAKING REAL STRIDES TOWARDS AN AGREEMENT IS SOMETHING THEY'VE
[00:07:06] REFUSED TO DISCUSS PUBLICLY. ONE POTENTIAL SIGN OF PROGRESS
[00:07:09] SOURCES ALSO TELL ME DOMINIC LEBLANC IS SET TO BE BACK IN
[00:07:12] WASHINGTON NEXT WEEK. >> Paul: ALL RIGHT, THANKS, KATE.
[00:07:16] CBC'S KATE McKENNA IN OTTAWA
[00:07:17] TONIGHT.
[00:07:24] >>> WILDFIRE EVACUATION ORDERS AND ALERTS ARE EXPANDING IN BRITISH COLUMBIA WHERE CONCERN
[00:07:28] IS GROWING THAT THE WEATHER IN THE DAYS TO COME COULD MAKE THE
[00:07:30] FIRE SITUATION EVEN WORSE. BUT AS JESSICA CHEUNG SHOWS US,
[00:07:33] HELP HAS ARRIVED.
[00:07:36] >> Reporter: REINFORCEMENTS MARCHING IN TO HELP FIGHT MORE
[00:07:39] THAN 100 WILDFIRES IN B.C.
[00:07:42] >> IT'S MY FIRST TIME HERE IN CANADA. I AM GLAD TO BE HERE, TO BRING
[00:07:45] SOME HELP. >> Reporter: B.C.'S PREMIER
[00:07:48] WELCOMED THEM AT THE START OF WHAT'S EXPECTED TO BE A CHALLENGING MONTH.
[00:07:52] >> THEY WILL BE PROVIDING RELIEF
[00:07:54] TO FRONT-LINE B.C. WILDFIRE SERVICE FIREFIGHTERS SO THEY CAN
[00:07:58] CATCH THEIR BREATH AND RECOVER. >> Reporter: THESE FIREFIGHTERS
[00:08:02] WILL LIKELY BE DEPLOYED TO THE
[00:08:07] BRUNSWICK COMPLEX IN THE FRASER
[00:08:09] CANYON, TO THE NORTHEAST IN THE
[00:08:14] OKANAGAN CONTINUE TO BURN OUT OF CONTROL, FORCING MORE
[00:08:17] EVACUATIONS ON THURSDAY, THOUSANDS MORE HAVE BEEN DISPLACED FOR DAYS.
[00:08:20] >> BY THE TIME I GOT HOME, POLICE WERE ALREADY BANGING ON
[00:08:22] DOORS AND TELLING PEOPLE YOU GOTTA GO, AND YOU LOOK DOWN THE
[00:08:26] ROAD TO THE LAKE, AND THE FLAMES ARE PROBABLY 200 FEET HIGH.
[00:08:30] >> SOME OF THE ROADS ARE GETTING OPEN NOW. >> Reporter: WILLIAM MUNDLE AND
[00:08:33] DIANE HAMILTON HAVE BEEN LIVING OUT OF THIS TRAILER SINCE THEIR
[00:08:36] EVACUATION.
[00:08:38] >> I'M GLAD TO HEAR THAT MY HOME
[00:08:42] IS STILL STANDING, AND JUST --
[00:08:45] SO MANY OTHERS AREN'T.
[00:08:47] IT'S GONNA MAKE ME CRY.
[00:08:51] IT'S JUST SO SAD FOR THEM. >> Reporter: THE WILDFIRE FIGHT
[00:08:54] HAS ALSO REACHED METRO VANCOUVER, A FIRE BROKE OUT WEDNESDAY AN HOUR FROM THE CITY
[00:08:57] CENTRE. >> DIDN'T ACTUALLY THINK THAT IT WOULD EVER COME TO THIS, SO
[00:09:01] YEAH, IT IS VERY DISHEARTENING AND SCARY.
[00:09:04] >> Reporter: THE IMPACT OF FIRES
[00:09:09] CAN BE SEEN AND SMELLED ACROSS SWATHS OF THE PROVINCE. SMOKE AND SMOG HAS MADE THE AIR
[00:09:13] DANGEROUS. >> EVEN FOR HEALTHY PEOPLE THIS CAN CREATE SOME SHORT- AND
[00:09:17] LONG-TERM COMPLICATIONS TO YOUR HEALTH. >> Reporter: FIRE ACTIVITY IS
[00:09:20] EXPECTED TO INCREASE OVER THE WEEKEND DUE TO HOT AND DRY
[00:09:22] CONDITIONS. MORE FIREFIGHTERS FROM MEXICO,
[00:09:26] AUSTRALIA AND NEW ZEALAND ARE EXPECTED TO ARRIVE IN THE NEXT FEW DAYS.
[00:09:30] JESSICA CHEUNG, CBC NEWS, VANCOUVER.
[00:09:33] >> Paul: IN WASHINGTON STATE, NEIGHBOURS ARE RALLYING TO HELP
[00:09:36] THE TENS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE DISPLACED BY A TRIO OF
[00:09:39] DEVASTATING WILDFIRES AROUND SPOKANE.
[00:09:43] JULIA WONG SPEAKS TO SOME OF THOSE STEPPING UP. >> THERE'S MORE TOOTHBRUSHES.
[00:09:46] >> Julia: FOR EVACUEES OF THE WILDFIRES IN SPOKANE,
[00:09:49] WASHINGTON, AN ARMY OF SUPPORT.
[00:09:52] THIS LOCAL NON-PROFIT PUT OUT A PLEA FOR DONATIONS TO HELP THE
[00:09:56] MORE THAN 60,000 PEOPLE FORCED FROM THEIR HOMES.
[00:09:59] THE RESPONSE: OVERWHELMING. >> WE'VE RECEIVED OVER 1,000
[00:10:03] AMAZON BOXES FROM ALL OVER THE COUNTRY.
[00:10:06] >> Julia: EVEN BASIC ITEMS, LIKE SHAMPOO AND TOOTHPASTE CAN MAKE
[00:10:09] ALL THE DIFFERENCE, THEY SAY.
[00:10:10] >> IT'S ALL ABOUT DIGNITY. RIGHT?
[00:10:14] IT'S ALL ABOUT FEELING CLEAN AND GIVING THEM A LITTLE BIT OF
[00:10:16] HOPE. >> THIS WAS ANOTHER STRAY.
[00:10:20] >> Julia: CATS AND DOGS FROM EVACUEES NOW WITHOUT A HOME ARE STAYING AT THIS LOCAL ANIMAL
[00:10:23] SHELTER. THOSE HERE SAY THEY ARE DOING WHAT THEY CAN TO EASE THE
[00:10:27] BURDEN. >> THE DOGS ARE GOING OUT FOR
[00:10:29] WALKS, PLAYING, SO THEY DON'T HAVE -- THEY CAN TAKE THAT OFF THEIR PLATE AND NOT HAVE TO
[00:10:33] WORRY ABOUT THEIR BELOVED PET AT THIS POINT. WE'VE GOT YOU ON THAT.
[00:10:36] >> Julia: AND THAT MEANS A LOT
[00:10:38] FOR THOSE WHO HAVE LOST
[00:10:41] STRUCTURES, LIKE BOB DYGERT
[00:10:45] GEARHEART. >> AND IT'S VERY TAXING AND ANXIETY AND GOING TO SLEEP AT
[00:10:48] NIGHT IS VERY DIFFICULT BECAUSE OF ALL THESE THINGS GOING
[00:10:51] THROUGH YOUR MIND ABOUT WHAT DO I NEED TO DO AND HOW CAN I DO
[00:10:55] THAT AND WHO'S GOING TO HELP ME DO THAT. >> THE BIGGEST QUESTION: WHERE
[00:10:58] DO WE START?
[00:11:00] AND THAT'S -- YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHERE WE COME IN, AND WE HELP THEM AND START WALKING THROUGH
[00:11:04] THE PROCESS.
[00:11:07] >> Reporter: DYGERT-GEARHEART SAYS THE COMMUNITY SUPPORT HAS
[00:11:11] BEEN INVALUABLE. >> PEOPLE ARE SO KIND, AND WHEN
[00:11:13] PEOPLE FIND OUT IF YOU'RE A VICTIM OF THIS EVENT, THEY ARE
[00:11:17] WILLING TO HELP IN ANY WAY THEY CAN. >> I KNEW THIS COMMUNITY WOULD
[00:11:20] STEP UP AND BE ABLE TO DO THE THINGS THAT THEY ARE DOING, AND I THINK THE PEOPLE HAVE ONLY
[00:11:24] SEEN THE TIP OF IT. >> Julia: ON THE FIREFIGHT,
[00:11:27] CREWS HAVE BEEN MAKING PROGRESS, BUT IT'S GOING TO GET HOTTER AND
[00:11:31] GUSTIER, AND OFFICIALS SAY IT COULD BE A TURNING POINT.
[00:11:34] >> WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE GOOD WORK THAT THE FIREFIGHTERS
[00:11:37] HAVE DONE WE DON'T LOSE, SO WE ARE CONTINUING TO GO HARD.
[00:11:40] WE KNOW WHAT'S COMING, AND WE'RE GOING TO BE PREPARED FOR IT.
[00:11:44] >> Julia: HUNDREDS MORE FIREFIGHTERS ARE EXPECTED IN THE
[00:11:46] COMING DAYS.
[00:11:49] THEY'LL HELP ON THE FRONT LINES AND BEHIND ME IS A DIFFERENT
[00:11:52] KIND OF HELP. THIS IS A DISASTER ASSISTANCE
[00:11:55] CENTRE, AND PEOPLE IN THESE TENTS ARE HELPING EVACUEES WITH THINGS LIKE FILING INSURANCE
[00:11:59] CLAIMS AND GETTING BASIC NECESSITIES. >> Paul: AND JULIA, I TAKE IT
[00:12:02] THERE ARE NEW DETAILS TONIGHT ABOUT THE MAN ACCUSED OF SETTING ONE OF THE MOST DEVASTATING
[00:12:06] FIRES THERE? >> Julia: YEAH, COURT DOCUMENTS
[00:12:10] SAY THE MAN CHARGED WITH SETTING
[00:12:12] THE OLD TRAILS FIRE TOLD DETECTIVES HE PLANNED IT FOR
[00:12:15] WEEKS AND RESEARCHED WHEN THE WEATHER WOULD BE BEST TO START IT.
[00:12:19] HE ALSO ALLEGEDLY MADE A TIME DELAY DEVICE TO DO IT. >> Paul: ALL RIGHT, THANKS,
[00:12:23] JULIA. CBC'S JULIA WONG IN SPOKANE,
[00:12:25] WASHINGTON TONIGHT.
[00:12:27] >>> AMONG THE CREWS HELPING TO
[00:12:31] FIGHT THE FIRES IN WASHINGTON STATE IS A GROUP OF FORMER INMATES TRAINED TO DO SO THROUGH
[00:12:35] A FAIRLY NEW PRISON PROGRAM. MEMBERS OF THE ARCADIA 20
[00:12:38] TRANSITIONAL CREW DO EVERYTHING FROM CONTROLLED BURNS TO
[00:12:41] CLEANING UP DRIED VEGETATION TO
[00:12:43] FIGHTING ACTIVE WILDFIRES.
[00:12:45] THEY ARE HAND-PICKED AND PAID THE SAME AS ANYONE ELSE WOULD
[00:12:48] BE.
[00:12:51] >> IT'S CRAZY TO SAY, BUT THEY ARE BUILDING MEN, YOU KNOW.
[00:12:54] WE SPENT MANY YEARS IN PRISON
[00:12:57] JUST DOING -- BEING KIDS.
[00:13:01] THIS PROGRAM IS GIVING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO GROW THE HELL UP.
[00:13:05] >> Paul: ALONG WITH JOB EXPERIENCE, RECRUITS SAY IT'S A
[00:13:08] CHANCE TO SHOW THAT THEY CARE
[00:13:09] FOR THEIR COMMUNITY.
[00:13:16] NEW .
[00:13:21] >> NEW ANALYSES CONFIRMING THE WILDFIRES THAT HIT ONTARIO AND THE NORTHWEST TERRITORIES
[00:13:25] EARLIER THIS SUMMER WERE MADE TWICE AS LIKELY BECAUSE OF HUMAN-FUELLED CLIMATE CHANGE.
[00:13:29] JAMIE STRASHIN HAS MORE ON THE IMPACT AND WHAT CAN BE DONE TO STOP IT.
[00:13:32] >> Reporter: RAGING, BLISTERING WILDFIRES HAVE BECOME PART OF THE CANADIAN SUMMER.
[00:13:36] >> OKAY, YOU ALL NEED TO HURRY UP HERE. LIKE, SERIOUSLY.
[00:13:39] WE'RE ENCASED IN FLAMES NOW. >> Reporter: SCORCHING THE COUNTRY AND DESTROYING
[00:13:42] COMMUNITIES. >> THE WILDFIRES THAT SWEPT ACROSS OUR REGION HAS CHANGED MY
[00:13:46] COMMUNITY. PERSONALLY, IT'S GONE.
[00:13:50] >> Reporter: CHIEFS IN REMOTE NORTHERN ONTARIO ARE WORRIED ABOUT THE YEARLY FIRES THEY ARE
[00:13:54] SEEING. >> THE CHANGE IS ESCALATING.
[00:13:56] WE ARE NOT PREPARED TO RESPOND,
[00:13:58] TO REACT.
[00:14:00] >> Reporter: A NEW STUDY CONFIRMS HUMAN-INDUCED CLIMATE
[00:14:04] CHANGE, THE BURNING OF FOSSIL FUELS, MADE JULY'S WILDFIRES IN
[00:14:07] ONTARIO AND THE NORTHWEST
[00:14:10] TERRITORIES ROUGHLY TWICE AS LIKELY TO OCCUR, AND MORE
[00:14:13] INTENSE AND DIFFICULT TO CONTAIN.
[00:14:16] >> THERE IS A VERY STRONG RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE FIRE
[00:14:20] WEATHER, WHICH WE KNOW IS ATTRIBUTABLE TO HUMAN-CAUSED CLIMATE CHANGE, AND THE BURNED
[00:14:23] AREA THAT WE'VE SEEN IN CANADA IN THESE RECENT YEARS.
[00:14:26] >> Reporter: THE WORLD WEATHER ATTRIBUTION STUDY ALSO PREDICTS
[00:14:30] MORE FREQUENT EXTREME FIRE EVENTS IN THE NORTHWEST
[00:14:33] TERRITORIES EVERY TWO TO SIX
[00:14:36] YEARS, IN ONTARIO EVERY SIX TO
[00:14:40] FIFTEEN YEARS. >> THIS MONTH OF FIRE WEATHER WOULD HAVE BEEN SEEN ABOUT ONCE
[00:14:44] EVERY 100 YEARS WITHOUT HUMAN-CAUSED CLIMATE CHANGE.
[00:14:46] >> Reporter: EXPERTS SAY THESE DIRE PREDICTIONS SHOULD
[00:14:49] ACCELERATE EFFORTS TO ALIGN MITIGATION EFFORTS WITH THIS NEW
[00:14:52] REALITY. FOR ONE, A WELL-FUNDED NATIONAL
[00:14:55] FIREFIGHTING FORCE. >> A LOT OF PEOPLE THINK PLANES
[00:14:58] PUT OUT THE FIRES. THEY HELP, ESPECIALLY WHEN THE
[00:15:02] FIRE IS SMALL. THEY BUY YOU TIME, BUT IT'S THE
[00:15:06] MEN AND WOMEN ON THE FIRE LINE, THE BOOTS ON THE GROUND PUT THE FIRE OUT.
[00:15:09] >> Reporter: AND MORE RESILIENT BUILDINGS USING NON-FLAMMABLE
[00:15:13] MATERIALS ON THE PERIPHERY. >> THERE ARE PLACES IN
[00:15:16] CALIFORNIA NOW, NEW SUBDIVISIONS, MAKING THESE TYPES
[00:15:19] OF THINGS MANDATORY, AND THAT IS THE WAY TO GO.
[00:15:22] >> Reporter: ALL TOOLS TO REDUCE
[00:15:24] RISK AND BETTER CONTAIN FIRES, PREDICTED TO ONLY GET WORSE.
[00:15:28] JAMIE STRASHIN, CBC NEWS, TORONTO.
[00:15:31] >> Paul: A B.C. WOMAN IS RECOVERING IN HOSPITAL TONIGHT
[00:15:34] WITH A BROKEN NECK AND OTHER SERIOUS INJURIES AFTER SHE WAS
[00:15:37] ATTACKED BY A GRIZZLY BEAR.
[00:15:40] IT HAPPENED SUNDAY AFTERNOON ON
[00:15:41] A TRAIL NORTH OF WHISTLER.
[00:15:47] THE 72-YEAR-OLD WAS AIRLIFTED TO A VANCOUVER HOSPITAL.
[00:15:50] CONSERVATION OFFICERS BELIEVE IT WAS A DEFENSIVE ATTACK BY A
[00:15:53] FEMALE GRIZZLY PROTECTING HER CUB.
[00:15:56] >>> AND ON VANCOUVER ISLAND
[00:15:58] TODAY, SEARCH TEAMS MANAGED TO
[00:16:01] RESCUE AN INEXPERIENCED HIKER WHO HAD BEEN MISSING SINCE
[00:16:04] MONDAY. THE 25-YEAR-OLD WAS FOUND ALIVE, BUT IT TOOK CAREFUL WORK TO GET
[00:16:07] HIM OUT OF THIS CREVICE IN STEEP TERRAIN.
[00:16:10] HE WAS TAKEN TO HOSPITAL AND IS NOW RECOVERING.
[00:16:14] >>> THE UNION REPRESENTING WESTJET FLIGHT ATTENDANTS SAYS A
[00:16:17] TENTATIVE DEAL WITH THE AIRLINE INCLUDES AN 18% WAGE HIKE OVER
[00:16:20] THREE YEARS.
[00:16:22] CUPE SAYS THE AGREEMENT REACHED MONDAY ALSO INCLUDES PAY FOR
[00:16:26] WORK DONE ON THE GROUND, INCREASED TIME OFF, AND HIGHER
[00:16:30] ALLOWANCES FOR FOOD AND UNIFORMS.
[00:16:34] FLIGHT ATTENDANTS HAD A ONE-DAY STRIKE OVER THE LONG WEEKEND.
[00:16:37] WORKERS ARE SET TO VOTE ON THE DEAL IN THE COMING WEEKS.
[00:16:41] >>> DONALD TRUMP IS INSISTING THE U.S. MILITARY SUPPLY OF
[00:16:45] WEAPONS IS STRONG, DESPITE
[00:16:46] REPORTS OF SHORTAGES.
[00:16:49] TOM PERRY LOOKS AT NEW QUESTIONS
[00:16:50] OVER AMERICA'S READINESS FOR
[00:16:54] POTENTIAL FUTURE CONFLICTS. >> Reporter: DONALD TRUMP FIRING
[00:16:57] BACK OVER REPORTS THE U.S. MILITARY HAS BURNED THROUGH ITS
[00:17:01] STOCKPILES OF PRECISION MUNITIONS AND INTERCEPTORS IN
[00:17:04] ITS WAR AGAINST IRAN.
[00:17:06] >> President Trump: WE HAVE CERTAIN TYPES OF MUNITIONS THAT
[00:17:09] ARE VERY POWERFUL THAT WE HAVE
[00:17:12] VIRTUAL UNLIMITED SUPPLY. WE HAVE OTHERS WHERE IT'S A LITTLE BIT TIGHTER.
[00:17:16] >> Reporter: THE "WASHINGTON POST" REPORTS TRUMP DEMANDED
[00:17:19] ANSWERS FROM HIS SECRETARY OF
[00:17:21] WAR PETE HEGSETH ABOUT WHY HE HAD BEEN MISLED ABOUT EXTREME
[00:17:25] MUNITIONS SHORTAGES.
[00:17:27] PRESIDENT TRUMP POSTED ON SOCIAL MEDIA, ACCUSING THE PAPER OF
[00:17:30] SPREADING FALSE RUMOURS, INSISTING HE'S HAPPY WITH
[00:17:34] HEGSETH AND THAT THE U.S. HAS
[00:17:36] MASSIVE AMOUNTS OF MUNITIONS. >> President Trump: WE ALWAYS
[00:17:40] WANT MORE. WE HAVE TO HAVE MORE. WE HAVE OTHER THINGS MAYBE COME UP. MAYBE COME UP AND MAYBE DON'T
[00:17:43] COME UP. HOPEFULLY NOTHING ELSE DOES COME UP.
[00:17:47] >> Reporter: ONE THING THAT
[00:17:48] COULD COME UP, THIS EXPERT SAYS, IS ANOTHER FUTURE WAR, AND
[00:17:52] THAT'S WHAT WORRIES THE PENTAGON.
[00:17:55] >> THE UNITED STATES COULD CONTINUE ITS AIR CAMPAIGNS, FOR
[00:17:58] EXAMPLE, BUT I'M SURE GENERAL
[00:18:00] KAIN IS SAYING, YES, BUT EVERY
[00:18:04] MISSILE WE USE HERE IS ONE FEWER
[00:18:06] THAT WE MIGHT HAVE IN A FUTURE CONFLICT WITH CHINA, AND WE ARE
[00:18:10] WORRIED ABOUT DETERRENCE AND WE ARE WORRIED ABOUT WAR FIGHTING
[00:18:12] IF THAT SHOULD HAPPEN.
[00:18:15] >> Reporter: WHILE THE U.S. HAS PAUSED ITS CAMPAIGN AGAINST
[00:18:18] IRAN, SHIPPING THROUGH THE STRAIT OF HORMUZ REMAINS
[00:18:20] EFFECTIVELY AT A STANDSTILL.
[00:18:23] REPORTS SUGGEST IRAN AND OMAN
[00:18:25] ARE CLOSE TO A DEAL TO REOPEN
[00:18:27] THE WATERWAY WITH CONDITIONS, INCLUDING IRAN CHARGING SHIPS
[00:18:30] FOR SAFE PASSAGE. >> THERE MAY BE SOME SORT OF
[00:18:34] LOOSE ARRANGEMENT ON THE STRAIT. IT CEDES A LOT OF CONTROL OVER
[00:18:38] WHAT WAS A FREE INTERNATIONAL
[00:18:40] WATERWAY TO IRAN AND THE UNITED STATES WILL GET TO SAY THE WAR
[00:18:43] IS NOW OVER, TRUMP WILL CLAIM VICTORY, ALTHOUGH IT'S MUCH MORE COMPLICATED THAN THAT.
[00:18:47] >> Reporter: SHIPPING FIRMS WARN ANY TOLL ON VESSELS TRAVELLING
[00:18:51] THROUGH THE STRAIT WOULD SET A BAD PRECEDENT, CREATING
[00:18:55] UNCERTAINTY FOR INTERNATIONAL SHIPPING AND THE GLOBAL ECONOMY.
[00:18:59] TOM PERRY, CBC NEWS, WASHINGTON.
[00:19:02] >> Paul: WELL, NEARLY TWO MONTHS
[00:19:03] AFTER DROPPING OUT OF SIGHT,
[00:19:08] THERE'S WORD FROM U.S. REPUBLICAN SENATOR MITCH McCONNELL THAT HE'S BEEN
[00:19:12] RELEASED FROM A REHAB CENTRE. McCONNELL SAYS HE'LL CONTINUE TO RECOVER AT HOME FROM A FALL AND
[00:19:16] PNEUMONIA. THE 84-YEAR-OLD HAS BEEN OUT OF PUBLIC VIEW SINCE MID JUNE WHEN
[00:19:20] HE WAS TAKEN TO HOSPITAL BY AMBULANCE. IN A WRITTEN STATEMENT RELEASED
[00:19:24] BY HIS OFFICE THURSDAY, McCONNELL SAYS HE'LL CONTINUE TO
[00:19:26] ENGAGE WITH STAFF AND COLLEAGUES
[00:19:28] ON IMPORTANT SENATE BUSINESS.
[00:19:31] >>> DR. FAUCI FACED NO RISK OF FEDERAL PROSECUTION.
[00:19:34] ALL HE HAD TO DO WAS TELL THE TRUTH.
[00:19:38] MORE THAN 100 TIMES, THOUGH, HE REFUSED.
[00:19:41] >> Paul: A REPUBLICAN-LED U.S. SENATE COMMITTEE HAS VOTED TO
[00:19:44] HOLD DR. ANTHONY FAUCI IN CONTEMPT OF CONGRESS.
[00:19:47] THE MOVE COMES AFTER FAUCI
[00:19:49] REPEATEDLY INVOKED HIS 5TH
[00:19:52] AMENDMENT RIGHT AT A HEARING
[00:19:55] LAST WEEK ON CAPITOL HILL ABOUT HIS HANDLING OF THE COVID-19 PANDEMIC.
[00:19:58] FAUCI SAID HE FEARED ANY TESTIMONY WOULD BE USED TO
[00:20:01] UNFAIRLY PROSECUTE HIM. IT'S NOW UP TO THE JUSTICE
[00:20:04] DEPARTMENT TO DECIDE WHETHER TO
[00:20:05] PROSECUTE ON THIS.
[00:20:08] >>> THE VACCINE TECHNOLOGY THAT PLAYED SO PROMINENTLY DURING THE
[00:20:11] PANDEMIC WILL SOON PROVIDE
[00:20:12] PROTECTION AGAINST THE FLU.
[00:20:18] THE U.S. FOOD AND DRUG ADMINISTRATION HAS APPROVED MODERNA'S NEW MRNA SHOT.
[00:20:21] KAREN PAULS NOW ON WHAT THAT COULD MEAN FOR FLU SEASON.
[00:20:24] >> Reporter: EVERY FALL MILLIONS ROLL UP THEIR SLEEVES FOR A FLU
[00:20:28] SHOT, BUT AMERICANS WILL SOON
[00:20:30] HAVE A NEW OPTION, THE F.D.A.
[00:20:33] HAS NOW APPROVED MODERNA'S MRNA
[00:20:36] FLU VACCINE FOR ADULTS AGED 50 AND OLDER. >> I AM SO EXCITED ABOUT THE
[00:20:39] POTENTIAL FOR MRNA VACCINE.
[00:20:40] >> Reporter: SHE SAYS A RECENT
[00:20:45] STUDY FOUND MRNA FLU VACCINES
[00:20:48] ARE 27 TO 35% MORE EFFECTIVE AT
[00:20:52] PREVENTING INFLUENZA THAN THE TRADITIONAL FLU SHOTS. >> THE MRNA VACCINES SEEM TO BE
[00:20:55] VERY PROTECTIVE IN PEOPLE WHO ARE OLDER, WHO HAVE CO-MORBIDITIES AND PEOPLE WHO
[00:20:59] ARE IMMUNOCOMPROMISED. >> Reporter: MRNA VACCINES ARE EASIER AND FASTER TO MAKE, WHICH
[00:21:03] MEANS MORE ABILITY TO ADAPT TO
[00:21:05] NEW STRAINS OF THE FLU VIRUS.
[00:21:09] >> MOST FLU VACCINE IS STILL GROWN IN CHICKEN EGGS, AND THIS
[00:21:12] TAKES MONTHS TO DO, AND THE FARTHER AHEAD YOU HAVE TO PLAN
[00:21:15] TO GROW IT, YOUR RISK OF A MISMATCH ON STRAINS IS GOING TO BE HIGHER.
[00:21:18] >> Reporter: MODERNA HAS APPLIED FOR APPROVAL IN EUROPE,
[00:21:21] AUSTRALIA AND HERE IN CANADA WHERE IT'S UNDER REVIEW. >> I'M HOPEFUL THAT HEALTH
[00:21:25] CANADA WILL BE QUITE OPTIMISTIC
[00:21:26] ABOUT IT.
[00:21:32] >> Reporter: JILL PROMOLI'S 2-YEAR-OLD SON JUDE DIED FROM INFLUENZA B A DECADE AGO,
[00:21:35] DESPITE BEING VACCINATED. WHILE SHE SAYS NO VACCINE IS PERFECT, SHE NOW CAMPAIGNS TO
[00:21:39] PROMOTE THE FLU SHOT. >> WE'RE NOT VACCINATING AGAINST DISEASES BECAUSE THEY ARE
[00:21:43] UNCOMFORTABLE OR INCONVENIENT. WE VACCINATE BECAUSE DISEASES KILL PEOPLE.
[00:21:47] >> Reporter: THE F.D.A.'S APPROVAL COMES ONE YEAR AFTER
[00:21:49] THE U.S. HEALTH SECRETARY ANNOUNCED A WIND-DOWN OF MRNA
[00:21:52] VACCINE DEVELOPMENT.
[00:21:55] EARLIER THIS YEAR, THE F.D.A.
[00:21:57] REFUSED TO REVIEW MODERNA'S APPLICATION, BUT AFTER PUBLIC
[00:22:00] PRESSURE, IT REVERSED ITS DECISION.
[00:22:03] >> DOING GOOD, RIGOROUS SCIENCE
[00:22:06] STILL CAN OVERCOME MISINFORMATION AND POLITICAL
[00:22:09] MYTH. -- MEDDLING.
[00:22:13] >> Reporter: EXPERTS SAY PUBLIC HEALTH OFFICIALS WILL HAVE TO PROVIDE CLEAR MESSAGING ON THE
[00:22:17] BENEFITS OF MRNA TECHNOLOGY SO PEOPLE CAN MAKE INFORMED CHOICES
[00:22:19] ON HOW TO PROTECT THEMSELVES.
[00:22:21] KAREN PAULS, CBC NEWS, WINNIPEG.
[00:22:24] >> Paul: ORGANIZERS SAY THEY ARE SEEING A DROP IN THE NUMBER OF
[00:22:27] KIDS AT CAMPS THIS SUMMER.
[00:22:30] >> WE'RE MISSING ABOUT 60 CAMPERS THAT WENT TO CAMP LAST
[00:22:33] YEAR THAT DIDN'T COME THIS YEAR. >> Paul: HOW TOUGH ECONOMIC
[00:22:37] TIMES ARE FORCING PARENTS TO CUT
[00:22:38] BACK, NEXT.
[00:22:42] >>> PLUS, DOES DONALD TRUMP'S LATEST VENTURE AMOUNT TO INSIDER
[00:22:45] TRADING?
[00:22:47] >> FASTEST ACCESS TO THE PRESIDENT'S POSTS, TO BANKS AND SOME OTHER FINANCIAL SERVICES
[00:22:51] FIRMS. >> Paul: ANDREW CHANG LOOKS INTO
[00:22:55] THE LEGALITY OF TRUTH API.
[00:22:58] >>> AND LATER, HER RECORD-BREAKING RUN ACROSS THE
[00:23:01] ALPS. >> I WAS THERE TO FINISH IT.
[00:23:05] I THINK PROBABLY AT THAT POINT I WOULD HAVE CRAWLED.
[00:23:07] >> Paul: WE'RE BACK IN TWO. >> Annou
[00:25:17] >> Paul: THERE ARE NEW PHOTOS OF THE SURFACE OF THE MOON TONIGHT
[00:25:20] AFTER A DEFUNCT SpaceX ROCKET CRASHED AT HIGH SPEED THIS WEEK.
[00:25:23] SCIENTISTS SAY IT LIKELY MADE A
[00:25:25] SIZABLE CRATER.
[00:25:28] THE ROCKET WAS TRAVELLING AT
[00:25:30] MORE THAN 8,600 KILOMETRES AN HOUR. >>> RISING COSTS ARE MAKING SOME
[00:25:34] FAMILIES THINK TWICE ABOUT SENDING THEIR KIDS TO SUMMER CAMP.
[00:25:37] DEANA SUMANAC-JOHNSON SHOWS US HOW PARENTS MIGHT MANAGE TO SWING IT, OR AT LEAST LOOK FOR
[00:25:41] ALTERNATIVES.
[00:25:44] >> Deana: IT'S THE SIGHTS AND SOUNDS OF SUMMER, BUT BEHIND THE
[00:25:48] SCENES, THE HEAT IS ON FOR CAMP OPERATORS AND PARENTS TO KEEP
[00:25:51] THIS MAGIC ALIVE. >> EVERYTHING COSTS MORE, SO
[00:25:54] INSURANCE HAS GONE UP SIGNIFICANTLY FOR US.
[00:25:58] FOOD COSTS HAVE INCREASED.
[00:26:00] OUR STAFF WAGES HAVE INCREASED.
[00:26:03] >> Deana: THOSE HIGHER COSTS GET PASSED ON TO FAMILIES, THOUGH
[00:26:07] CAMPS SAY THEY TRY TO MINIMIZE IT AT A TIME WHEN MANY CANADIANS
[00:26:10] ARE ALREADY STRUGGLING WITH AFFORDABILITY.
[00:26:12] >> IF I LOOK AT RETURNING CAMPER
[00:26:15] NUMBERS, WE'RE MISSING ABOUT 60 CAMPERS THAT WENT TO CAMP LAST
[00:26:18] YEAR THAT DIDN'T COME THIS YEAR.
[00:26:25] >> Reporter: CAMPS CAN RANGE IN COST FROM $150 TO $300 A WEEK
[00:26:27] FOR COMMUNITY AND CITY-RUN DAY CAMPS TO MORE THAN $2,000 A WEEK
[00:26:30] FOR OVERNIGHT CAMPS. CAMPS ACROSS CANADA KNOW WHAT
[00:26:33] FAMILIES ARE UP AGAINST. >> WE'VE BEEN HEARING THAT THEY
[00:26:36] ARE HAVING TO MAKE CHOICES WHETHER TO INVOLVE THEM IN
[00:26:39] SPORTS OR MULTI-WEEKS OF DAY CAMP OR OVERNIGHT CAMP, AND YOU
[00:26:43] KNOW, IT'S UPSETTING TO HEAR. >> Deana: BEYOND OFFERING CHILD
[00:26:46] CARE, SUMMER CAMPS HAVE MANY OTHER BENEFITS, SAYS THIS EXPERT.
[00:26:50] >> YOU GET TO TRY NEW THINGS THAT YOU CAN CHALLENGE YOURSELF
[00:26:53] IN THOSE WAYS AND REALLY BUILD
[00:26:56] GRIT AND PERSEVERANCE, SO LEARNING SELF-AWARENESS,
[00:27:00] EMOTIONAL MANAGEMENT, SOCIAL AWARENESS.
[00:27:03] >> Deana: THIS FINANCIAL ADVISOR AND MOM OF TWO SAYS SHE SUGGESTS
[00:27:06] PARENTS LOOK BEYOND CAMPS IF THEIR BUDGET JUST CAN'T HANDLE
[00:27:09] IT. >> I WAS VERY ENTHUSIASTIC WHEN
[00:27:12] THE KIDS WERE YOUNGER BECAUSE I DIDN'T WANT MY KIDS TO BE
[00:27:16] MISSING OUT, BUT AS THE KIDS GOT OLDER, I STARTED ARRANGING MORE
[00:27:19] PLAY DATES AND ACTUALLY TALKING TO PARENTS AND SEEING WHAT THEIR SCHEDULE IS TO SEE IF WE COULD
[00:27:23] DO A BIT OF A SWAP, OR I'LL HOST SOME KIDS.
[00:27:25] >> Deana: IF SENDING KIDS TO CAMP IS A PRIORITY FOR YOU,
[00:27:29] ORGANIZERS SAY TO REACH OUT AND
[00:27:30] ASK IF THEY OFFER SUBSIDIES.
[00:27:36] SOME DO, AS THEY URGE ALL LEVELS OF GOVERNMENT TO HELP CAMPS WITH FUNDING.
[00:27:39] DEANA SUMANAC-JOHNSON, CBC NEWS, TORONTO. >> Paul: DONALD TRUMP IS SELLING
[00:27:42] EARLY ACCESS TO HIS SOCIAL MEDIA
[00:27:45] POSTS, AND THAT IS RAISING LEGAL
[00:27:46] AND ETHICAL QUESTIONS.
[00:27:49] >> THE SMALL ADVANTAGE, THE SMALL MILLISECOND TIME ADVANTAGE CAN BE VERY PROFITABLE IF YOU
[00:27:54] CAN GET AHEAD OF THE NEWS. >> Paul: ANDREW CHANG ASKS THE
[00:27:57] QUESTION: IS THE NEW TRUTH API
[00:27:59] INSIDER TRADING?
[00:28:03] >>> PLUS, MITIGATING THE CARBON EMISSIONS FROM WILDFIRES.
[00:28:07] >> SOME SCIENTISTS THINK THE SOLUTION IS TO TREAT OUR DEAD
[00:28:10] FORESTS LIKE A VAULT. >> Paul: JOHANNA WAGSTAFFE LOOKS
[00:28:13] AT WHETHER CARBON BUNKERS COULD BE THE SOLUTION.
[00:28:17] >> Does
[00:30:53] >> Paul: OFTENTIMES WHEN DONALD TRUMP POSTS ON TRUTH SOCIAL THE
[00:30:55] STOCK MARKETS REACT.
[00:30:57] MONEY IS MADE, MONEY IS LOST, BUT WHAT IF INVESTORS COULD PAY
[00:31:01] FOR EARLY ACCESS TO TRUMP'S POSTS?
[00:31:04] THAT'S THE PREMISE BEHIND A NEW DATA FEED BEING SOLD BY TRUMP
[00:31:07] MEDIA.
[00:31:10] ANDREW CHANG, HOST OF "ABOUT THAT" EXPLAINS TRUTH API AND
[00:31:13] EXAMINES WHETHER IT FITS THE
[00:31:15] DEFINITION OF INSIDER TRADING.
[00:31:19] >> Andrew: IMAGINE YOU ARE ABOUT TO BE OFFERED THE OPPORTUNITY OF A LIFETIME.
[00:31:23] YOU GET THE PRIVILEGE OF PEEKING
[00:31:26] OVER DONALD TRUMP'S SHOULDER AS HE TYPES OUT STOCK
[00:31:29] MARKET-MOVING, PRESIDENTIAL ANNOUNCEMENTS, LIKE IRAN'S
[00:31:32] AYATOLLAH HAS JUST BEEN ASSASSINATED, OR THE U.S. IS
[00:31:36] BLOCKADING THE STRAIT OF HORMUZ, OR WE'RE JACKING UP TARIFFS ON
[00:31:38] CHINA. SO THAT YOU SEE THESE
[00:31:42] ANNOUNCEMENTS BEFORE THE GENERAL
[00:31:44] PUBLIC, BUT IT WILL COST YOU UP
[00:31:46] TO $100,000 U.S. A MONTH.
[00:31:49] IS THAT ETHICAL? OR NEVER MIND ETHICAL, IS THAT
[00:31:52] EVEN LEGAL?
[00:31:58] >> TRUMP MEDIA AND TECHNOLOGY GROUP HAS LAUNCHED TRUTH API. >> FASTEST ACCESS TO THE
[00:32:01] PRESIDENT'S POSTS, TO BANKS AND SOME OTHER FINANCIAL SERVICES FIRMS.
[00:32:05] >> RAISING CONCERNS OF CONFLICTS OF INTEREST AND, OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, INSIDER TRADING.
[00:32:09] >> Andrew: THIS IS WHAT EVERYBODY IS ASKING NOW THAT ONE OF TRUMP'S FAMILY BUSINESSES IS
[00:32:13] APPARENTLY CHARGING HIGH-VOLUME STOCK TRADERS FOR EARLY ACCESS
[00:32:16] TO POSTS ON TRUTH SOCIAL WHERE
[00:32:19] TRUMP IS THE MOST FOLLOWED USER.
[00:32:22] LET ME TRY TO TACKLE THIS
[00:32:24] QUESTION OF INSIDER TRADING BECAUSE THE ANSWER ISN'T AS
[00:32:27] STRAIGHTFORWARD AS YOU MIGHT THINK, BUT I'LL ALSO EXPLAIN WHY
[00:32:31] I THINK THIS QUESTION MIGHT MISS THE POINT ENTIRELY.
[00:32:34] ♪
[00:32:39] OKAY, SO THE FIRST THING TO CLEAR UP HERE IS WHAT WE
[00:32:43] ACTUALLY MEAN WHEN WE SAY "EARLY ACCESS" TO TRUMP'S POSTS ON
[00:32:47] TRUTH SOCIAL, BECAUSE IF YOU ONLY READ THE HEADLINES OR EVEN
[00:32:50] JUST HEARD ME SAY IT A MOMENT AGO, IT MAKES IT SOUND LIKE YOU
[00:32:53] CAN PAY TO SEE THE PRESIDENT'S
[00:32:55] POSTS MINUTES OR MAYBE EVEN
[00:32:58] HOURS BEFORE THEY ARE ACTUALLY
[00:33:00] POSTED PUBLICLY, BUT NO, WHAT
[00:33:02] YOU'RE REALLY PAYING FOR IS
[00:33:04] SOMETHING MORE LIKE SECONDS OR
[00:33:06] EVEN FRACTIONS OF A SECOND.
[00:33:09] WHAT TRUMP'S COMPANY IS CALLING
[00:33:11] TRUTH API IS JUST OFFERING A WAY
[00:33:14] FOR PEOPLE WITH MONEY TO PLUG IN
[00:33:16] MORE DIRECTLY TO TRUTH SOCIAL,
[00:33:18] BUT MACHINE TO MACHINE.
[00:33:21] A NEW BUSINESS-TO-BUSINESS DATA FEED WITH REAL-TIME ACCESS TO
[00:33:25] POSTS FROM THE HIGHEST RANKING TRUTH SOCIAL ACCOUNTS, OF WHICH,
[00:33:28] AGAIN, TRUMP IS THE HIGHEST OF
[00:33:31] THE HIGH, PROMISING TO DELIVER TRUTH SOCIAL POSTS TO OUR
[00:33:34] CUSTOMERS IN MILLISECONDS.
[00:33:38] SO THE IDEA IS WHEN TRUMP MAKES
[00:33:40] A POST, COMPUTERS WITH THIS API
[00:33:42] ACCESS THAT YOU CAN REPORTEDLY
[00:33:47] BUY FOR SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 60 TO $100,000 A MONTH, YOU THINK OF
[00:33:50] IT PLUGGING RIGHT INTO TRUTH SOCIAL SERVERS. THEY SEE THE POST ALMOST
[00:33:54] INSTANTANEOUSLY, UNLIKE THE REST
[00:33:56] OF US WHO ARE WAITING FOR OUR TRUMP TRUTH SOCIAL FEED TO
[00:34:00] POPULATE, HITTING THE REFRESH
[00:34:02] BUTTON LIKE A CHUMP.
[00:34:06] SO IT'S LIKE GETTING A FRONT ROW SEAT AS HISTORY IS BEING TYPED.
[00:34:09] OH, SILLY ME, YOU CAN ALSO USE IT TO MAKE A TON OF MONEY
[00:34:13] BECAUSE WHO IS THIS ACCESS REALLY FOR?
[00:34:15] HIGH-FREQUENCY AND ALGORITHMIC TRADING FIRMS THAT REQUIRE A LO
[00:34:19] LATENCY MACHINE-READABLE FEED
[00:34:20] RATHER THAN MANUAL TRACKING.
[00:34:23] TRANSLATION, COMPUTERS THAT ARE SMART ENOUGH TO TRADE STOCK AND
[00:34:26] GENERATE VALUE WITHOUT ANY HUMAN
[00:34:28] PUSHING ANY BUTTONS.
[00:34:31] THEY ARE SET UP TO DO IT ON THEIR OWN, AND THEY ARE FAST.
[00:34:35] >> THE CONCEPT OF ALGORITHMIC TRADING, WHICH IS BASICALLY
[00:34:37] COMPUTER-BASED TRADING, WHERE
[00:34:40] INFORMATION IS FED INTO AN ALGORITHM AND TRADES ARE
[00:34:43] EXECUTED BASED ON THAT INFORMATION, AND SO YOU CAN
[00:34:46] REACT VERY QUICKLY TO NEW INFORMATION, REACT
[00:34:49] INSTANTANEOUSLY. >> LET'S JUST SAY THERE WAS AN
[00:34:52] ANNOUNCEMENT OF A NEW TARIFF,
[00:34:54] 100% ACROSS THE WORLD, EVERYBODY THAT GETS A 100% TARIFF.
[00:34:58] WELL, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THAT AS FAST AS POSSIBLE.
[00:35:00] >> Andrew: SO TO TRUTH SOCIAL'S CREDIT, THEY ARE PRETTY UP FRONT
[00:35:04] ABOUT WHAT THEY ARE DOING HERE. THEY ARE GIVING PREFERENTIAL
[00:35:07] ACCESS TO TRUMP'S POSTS AS PRESIDENT SO THAT PEOPLE WHO
[00:35:11] TRADE STOCKS WHERE MILLISECONDS
[00:35:13] MATTER CAN GET MARKET-MOVING INFORMATION JUST A HAIR FASTER
[00:35:17] THAN EVERYBODY ELSE. AND THERE'S A LOT OF
[00:35:20] MARKET-MOVING INFORMATION OUT THERE. REMEMBER ONE OF THE POSTS I
[00:35:23] SHOWED YOU AT THE START, MORE THAN A YEAR AGO WHEN TRUMP
[00:35:26] ANNOUNCED THE WHOPPING 125%
[00:35:29] TARIFF ON CHINA, IN THAT SAME POST HE ALSO ANNOUNCED A PAUSE
[00:35:33] ON TARIFFS ON MUCH OF THE REST OF THE WORLD. THAT SENT STOCK MARKETS SHOOTING
[00:35:36] UP, AND IF YOU WERE PAYING ATTENTION TO TRUMP'S FEED JUST
[00:35:40] HOURS BEFORE THAT, HE LITERALLY POSTED "THIS IS A GREAT TIME TO
[00:35:43] BUY."
[00:35:45] HE WAS RIGHT, AND EVEN AS
[00:35:48] RECENTLY AS THIS WEEKEND, WHEN
[00:35:50] THE NEW API KICKED IN, THAT SAME NIGHT, IN FACT, THIS PAST
[00:35:54] SATURDAY, TRUMP VERY SUDDENLY ANNOUNCED A REVERSE COURSE ON AN
[00:35:57] IMPENDING STRIKE ON IRAN SAYING THE U.S. WAS GOING TO HOLD OFF
[00:36:00] ANY ATTACK. SURPRISE!
[00:36:04] AND THEN COME MONDAY, CRUDE OIL PRICES TUMBLED WITH THIS
[00:36:07] IMMINENT THREAT OF ESCALATION OFF THE TABLE.
[00:36:11] >> YOU KNOW, JUST A SMALL ADVANTAGE, A SMALL MILLISECOND
[00:36:14] TIME ADVANTAGE CAN BE VERY PROFITABLE IF YOU CAN GET AHEAD
[00:36:17] OF THE NEWS BEFORE OTHER PEOPLE MAKE TRADES.
[00:36:20] >> Andrew: SO IS THIS INSIDER
[00:36:23] TRADING WHEN A VERY PRIVILEGED
[00:36:25] CLASS OF PEOPLE GET EARLY ACCESS TO THIS KIND OF MONEY-MAKING
[00:36:29] INFORMATION? I'LL GIVE YOU TWO ANSWERS.
[00:36:33] YES, IT MIGHT BE INSIDER
[00:36:35] TRADING. WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT HOW INSIDER
[00:36:39] TRADING IS DEFINED IN U.S. SECURITIES LAW, AS BUYING OR
[00:36:41] SELLING STOCK BASED ON NON-PUBLIC INFORMATION THAT'S
[00:36:44] BEEN MISAPPROPRIATED. >> DONALD TRUMP, THE PRESIDENT
[00:36:48] OF THE UNITED STATES, HAS ACCESS TO CONFIDENTIAL NON-PUBLIC
[00:36:51] UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT THE TRUMP
[00:36:55] ADMINISTRATION IS GOING TO DO IN A WIDE RANGE OF AREAS.
[00:36:58] TRUTH SOCIAL, BY GIVING ADVANCE
[00:37:01] ACCESS TO THE PRESIDENT'S POSTS,
[00:37:04] IN RETURN FOR A PAYMENT OF MONEY, COULD BE IN VIOLATION OF
[00:37:07] FEDERAL INSIDER TRADING LAW.
[00:37:10] >> Andrew: SO THIS IS ARGUABLY
[00:37:11] INSIDER TRADING IF YOU SEE THIS
[00:37:17] AS WHITEHOUSE INFORMATION BEING
[00:37:19] MONETIZED AND THEN ONLY GIVING CERTAIN PEOPLE SPECIAL ACCESS.
[00:37:23] DEMOCRATS ARE CERTAINLY TRYING TO MAKE THIS CASE, WRITING
[00:37:27] DIRECTLY TO THE CHAIR OF THE SECURITIES AND EXCHANGE
[00:37:29] COMMISSION THAT TRUTH API UNDERMINES EVERYDAY INVESTORS AND THE INTEGRITY OF OUR
[00:37:33] MARKETS, WHILE URGING THE S.E.C. TO IMMEDIATELY OPEN AN
[00:37:37] INVESTIGATION. BUT . . . THIS IS ARGUABLY NOT
[00:37:40] INSIDER TRADING IF THERE WERE NEVER ANY SECRETS TO BEGIN WITH. AFTER ALL, EVERYTHING'S PUBLIC
[00:37:44] FROM HOW THE TRUTH API WORKS TO WHO CAN GET ACCESS, EVEN THE
[00:37:47] INFORMATION ITSELF LITERALLY
[00:37:51] POSTED FROM TRUMP'S THUMBS
[00:37:54] PUBLICLY TO THE PLATFORM.
[00:37:56] SURELY PEOPLE SHOULD BE ALLOWED
[00:37:59] TO PAY FOR SPEED IF THEY WANT
[00:38:02] IT, LIKE AN AIRLINE SELLING PRIORITY BOARDING OR A SHIPPING
[00:38:05] COMPANY SELLING SAME-DAY DELIVERY. WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE?
[00:38:09] ♪
[00:38:15] IN TRUTH SOCIAL'S DEFENCE, I SHOULD SAY, THERE'S NOTHING
[00:38:18] INHERENTLY NEFARIOUS ABOUT AN API.
[00:38:21] ANY MAJOR COMPANY WITH DATA THAT IT WANTS PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO
[00:38:24] USE EFFECTIVELY HAS ONE.
[00:38:26] IT'S HOW UBER CAN SHOW YOU A MAP
[00:38:29] OF YOUR CITY THROUGH GOOGLE MAPS
[00:38:31] API AND HOW EXPEDIA, PLUGGING INTO VARIOUS AIRLINE APIS, CAN
[00:38:34] SHOW YOU SO MANY DEALS AT ONCE
[00:38:39] IN REAL TIME.
[00:38:40] AND I CAN'T HELP BUT WONDER
[00:38:43] WHETHER THIS PREFERENTIAL ACCESS
[00:38:47] UPSETS THE OVERALL MARKET BALANCE MUCH LESS THAN YOU'D
[00:38:50] THINK, BECAUSE THOSE COMPANIES THAT ALREADY HAVE ACCESS TO THE
[00:38:53] BEST DATA SCRAPERS, THE SMARTEST
[00:38:57] ALGORITHMS, THE FASTEST BOTS THAT CAN AUTOMATICALLY AND
[00:39:00] INSTANTANEOUSLY EXECUTE THOUSANDS OF TRADES IN THE BLINK
[00:39:02] OF AN EYE, WITH OR WITHOUT TRUTH
[00:39:05] API, THEY WERE ALREADY FASTER
[00:39:08] THAN EVERYBODY ELSE.
[00:39:12] IN ONE WAY, TRUTH API IS LIKE PITTING MY MINIVAN AGAINST AN F1
[00:39:15] CAR AND THEN GIVING THE F1 CAR A HEAD START. I HAVE NEWS FOR YOU.
[00:39:18] THEY WERE ALREADY WINNING THE RACE.
[00:39:21] YOU CAN'T BE MORE FIRST PLACE THAN FIRST PLACE, AND FOR MOST
[00:39:24] PEOPLE, BEING BEATEN TO THE BEST STOCK PRICE BY ONE MILLISECOND
[00:39:27] OR TWO MIGHT NOT MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
[00:39:31] WHERE IT DOES MAKE A DIFFERENCE,
[00:39:34] THOUGH, IS WITHIN THAT
[00:39:37] ULTRA-HIGH-SPEED FORMULA 1 CLASS OF HIGH-FREQUENCY, HIGH-VOLUME,
[00:39:41] HEAVILY AUTOMATED TRADING.
[00:39:45] WITHIN THAT TIER, TRUTH SOCIAL
[00:39:47] IS CREATING TWO TIERS OF
[00:39:49] ULTRA-HIGH-SPEED. THOSE WHO PAY FOR THAT EXTRA
[00:39:53] MILLISECOND AND THOSE WHO DON'T. AND LIKE I SAID, IN THAT SPEED
[00:39:55] CLASS, MILLISECONDS DO MATTER. IF YOU CAN FLIP A FEW THOUSAND
[00:39:58] STOCKS IN THAT TIME OVER YOUR
[00:40:02] NEXT CLOSEST COMPETITOR. SO WHO WITHIN THAT TIER COULD AFFORD NOT TO PAY?
[00:40:06] >> THE ONES WHO ARE THE BEST OF THE BEST, AND THEY ARE NAMES THAT PEOPLE OFTEN SEE IN THE
[00:40:09] PRESS. THEY WILL HAVE NO CHOICE BUT TO BUY THAT BECAUSE IF THEY DON'T,
[00:40:13] THEIR COMPETITOR WILL ACCESS THE INFORMATION SOONER THAN THEY WILL.
[00:40:17] >> Andrew: EVEN TRUMP'S COMPANY ITSELF ACKNOWLEDGES THIS.
[00:40:20] WE ARE GOING TO CREATE A LOT OF FRICTION FOR THOSE FOLKS THAT
[00:40:23] AREN'T COMING TO US DIRECTLY. THAT'S THE INTERIM C.E.O.
[00:40:26] TALKING, ARGUING THE API WILL BE SIGNIFICANTLY FASTER THAN
[00:40:30] SCRAPING. AND THIS IS WHERE WE COME ACROSS
[00:40:33] WHAT I THINK MOST EXPERTS AGREE
[00:40:35] IS THE MOST PROBLEMATIC PART OF
[00:40:39] THIS TRUTH SOCIAL API FAST LANE.
[00:40:42] BECAUSE TRUTH SOCIAL ISN'T JUST A SOCIAL MEDIA SITE.
[00:40:45] IT IS ONE OF THE U.S. PRESIDENT'S PRIMARY CHANNELS FOR
[00:40:49] ANNOUNCING THE DIRECTION OF U.S. POLICY, WHICH COUNTRIES THE U.S.
[00:40:52] WILL WORK WITH, EVEN WHICH COUNTRIES THE U.S. IS PLANNING
[00:40:55] TO BOMB. AND THIS IS A PLATFORM IN WHICH
[00:40:59] DONALD TRUMP HAS A CLEAR FINANCIAL STAKE.
[00:41:02] WHEN I READ THROUGH TRUMP'S FINANCIAL DISCLOSURE FOR 2025, I
[00:41:06] CAN SEE ON THIS LINE OF HIS ASSETS AND INCOME: TRUMP MEDIA
[00:41:10] AND TECHNOLOGY GROUP. THAT'S THE COMPANY THAT CONTROLS
[00:41:12] TRUTH SOCIAL.
[00:41:14] TRUMP OWNS MORE THAN 114 MILLION
[00:41:17] SHARES WORTH OVER $50 MILLION.
[00:41:20] THIS IS ABOUT 41% OF THE
[00:41:21] COMPANY, AND THIS CREATES AN
[00:41:24] ETHICAL DILEMMA, LIKE A BOUNCER
[00:41:26] HOLDING A TIP JAR.
[00:41:28] BECAUSE IT IS NO LONGER CLEAR
[00:41:30] WHETHER THE PRESIDENT'S
[00:41:33] ANNOUNCEMENTS, HIS POLICIES, EVEN HIS CHOICES ABOUT HOW TO
[00:41:37] COMMUNICATE WITH AMERICANS, WHETHER THEY ARE DRIVEN PURELY
[00:41:41] BY CIVIC DUTY OR BY MONEY.
[00:41:45] WHAT IS TRUE IN AN ABSOLUTE
[00:41:46] SENSE IS THAT TRUMP IS MORE INCENTIVIZED NOW TO MAKE
[00:41:50] DECISIONS THAT MAKE HIM MONEY, TO GENERATE VALUE FOR THOSE
[00:41:54] HIGH-POWERED STOCK TRADERS WHO
[00:41:56] HAVE LINED UP TO PAY HIS FAMILY
[00:41:59] BUSINESS $100,000 A MONTH FOR PREFERENTIAL ACCESS TO VALUABLE
[00:42:02] INFORMATION.
[00:42:04] SO WHEN TRUMP POSTS, WE'RE CLOSE
[00:42:08] TO A DEAL WITH IRAN, THE U.S.
[00:42:11] MAY BE, BUT TRUMP ALSO KNOWS THERE'S MONEY TO BE MADE JUST BY
[00:42:15] SAYING THE WORDS, WHETHER THEY ARE TRUE OR NOT.
[00:42:18] >> I'M VERY MUCH HOPING THAT THE PRESIDENT WILL DECIDE THAT HIS
[00:42:21] PRIORITY FOR THE REMAINDER OF HIS TERM IS THE INTERESTS OF THE
[00:42:24] UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, NOT HIS OWN PERSONAL FINANCIAL
[00:42:28] INTERESTS OR THE FINANCIAL INTERESTS OF TRUTH SOCIAL OR THE
[00:42:31] OTHER COMPANIES HE ONUS. OWNS.
[00:42:35] >> Andrew: AND THIS IS AN OPEN QUESTION THAT WILL LINGER LONG
[00:42:37] AFTER THE S.E.C. OR ANYONE DECIDES WHETHER TRUTH API IS
[00:42:41] EVEN LEGAL TO BEGIN WITH.
[00:42:44] >> Paul: ON TUESDAY, A DEMOCRATIC SENATOR FROM CALIFORNIA INTRODUCED A BILL
[00:42:48] CALLED "THE STOP CORRUPT TRADING ACT."
[00:42:51] IF PASSED, THE LEGISLATION WOULD
[00:42:53] EXPLICITLY BAN THE PRESIDENT,
[00:42:56] THE VICE PRESIDENT AND THEIR FAMILIES FROM SELLING NON-PUBLIC
[00:42:59] INFORMATION, INCLUDING API DATA
[00:43:00] FEEDS.
[00:43:03] >>> UP NEXT, WILDFIRES POSE A CLIMATE THREAT, EVEN WHEN
[00:43:06] THEY'VE STOPPED BURNING. HOW AN ANCIENT PIECE OF TIMBER
[00:43:10] INSPIRED A POSSIBLE SOLUTION. >> IT WAS THAT ACCIDENTAL
[00:43:14] DISCOVERY THAT GOT THE WHEELS TURNING FOR ONE COMPANY.
[00:43:17] >> Paul: DOES IT MAKE SENSE TO BURY THOSE BURNED OUT TREES?
[00:43:21] WE'LL BREAK IT DOWN FOR YOU.
[00:46:52] >> Paul: ABOUT 660 WILDFIRES ARE
[00:46:55] BURNING IN THIS COUNTRY TONIGHT, ACCORDING TO NATURAL RESOURCES
[00:46:58] CANADA, AND ALL THAT SMOKE THEY GIVE OFF JUST PUTS MORE AND MORE
[00:47:01] CARBON INTO THE ATMOSPHERE, AND THESE CHARRED, RUINED FORESTS
[00:47:04] THAT REMAIN POSE A FURTHER
[00:47:06] THREAT TO THE CLIMATE.
[00:47:10] EARLIER THIS YEAR, JOHANNA WAGSTAFFE CHECKED OUT A RADICAL IDEA FOR MITIGATING THAT THREAT,
[00:47:14] TO SEE IF IT'S REALLY DOABLE. HERE'S ANOTHER LOOK AT WHAT SHE
[00:47:16] FOUND. >> Johanna: WHAT IF THE SECRET
[00:47:20] TO COOLING OUR PLANET IS JUST A GIANT HOLE IN THE GROUND?
[00:47:23] CANADA'S WILDFIRES ARE PUMPING OUT ENOUGH CARBON ANNUALLY TO
[00:47:26] TRIPLE THE EMISSIONS OF OUR ENTIRE ECONOMY, BUT IT'S NOT
[00:47:29] JUST WHAT GOES UP IN SMOKE. IT'S THE CHARRED LOGS AND DEAD
[00:47:33] TREES LEFT BEHIND, TOO FAR GONE FOR THE MILL.
[00:47:36] THAT CARBON WILL, IN TIME, ALSO BE RELEASED, ADDING A SECOND HIT
[00:47:39] OF CO2 BACK TO OUR SKIES. SOME SCIENTISTS THINK THE
[00:47:42] SOLUTION IS TO TREAT OUR DEAD FORESTS LIKE A VAULT, A LOCK-UP
[00:47:45] FOR THE EXCESS CARBON. I'LL EXPLAIN.
[00:47:48] JUST NORTH OF MONTREAL, A TEAM
[00:47:50] OF RESEARCHERS DIGGING THROUGH A
[00:47:54] FARM FIELD HIT SOMETHING SOLID, AN EASTERN RED CEDAR BURIED TWO
[00:47:57] METRES DOWN IN CLAY.
[00:47:59] THE LOG WAS 3,700 YEARS OLD, BUT IT WASN'T A FOSSIL.
[00:48:02] IT WAS 95% IN TACT. IT HADN'T DECAYED, AND MOST
[00:48:05] IMPORTANTLY IT WAS HOLDING ON TO EVERY BIT OF CARBON IT SPENT ITS
[00:48:08] LIFE PULLING FROM THE SKY.
[00:48:12] >> WE HAVE A SECTION OF IT WE
[00:48:14] CUT OFF RIGHT HERE SO YOU CAN
[00:48:16] SEE THE VERY INTRICATE PATTERN
[00:48:22] ON THE WOOD. YOU KNOCK ON IT, AND IT MAKES THIS VERY NICE SOLID SOUND.
[00:48:26] >> Johanna: IT WAS THAT ACCIDENTAL DISCOVERY THAT GOT THE WHEELS TURNING FOR ONE
[00:48:29] COMPANY.
[00:48:31] >> WHAT WE DO IS WE BASICALLY
[00:48:35] TAKE FIRE-KILLED TREES ON A LANDOWNER PROPERTY. WE BURY THEM, ISSUE A BUNCH OF
[00:48:39] CREDITS, AND THAT PAYS FOR REFORESTATION. WE EXCAVATE OUT A VAULT, BURY
[00:48:42] IT, AND GENERATE CARBON CREDITS. THOSE FUND REFORESTATION IN THE AREA.
[00:48:46] >> Johanna: MASS REFORESTATION LED ONE OF THE FIRST
[00:48:49] COMMERCIAL-SCALE WOOD BURIAL
[00:48:51] PROJECTS ON A RANCH IN MONTANA.
[00:48:55] THE GOAL, TO STORE CARBON FROM 10 MILLION POUNDS OF FIRE-KILLED
[00:48:57] TIMBER UNDERGROUND.
[00:49:00] CARBON BUNKERS WORK BY CREATING
[00:49:02] AN OXYGEN-FREE ENVIRONMENT BY
[00:49:05] BURYING WOOD DEEP UNDERGROUND IN CLAY-RICH SOIL THAT BLOCKS AIR
[00:49:08] AND WATER.
[00:49:10] WITHOUT OXYGEN, MICROBES AND
[00:49:14] BACTERIA CAN'T BEGIN THE PROCESS OF BREAKING DOWN THE WOOD FIBRES AND RELEASING THE
[00:49:17] CARBON, AND BECAUSE THESE MEGA FIRES ARE BECOMING SO INTENSE
[00:49:20] AND ESSENTIALLY VAPORIZING THE FOREST'S NATURAL SEED BANK, THE
[00:49:24] COMPANY USES THE REVENUE FROM THESE CARBON CREDITS TO RESEED THE LAND TOO.
[00:49:28] BUT COULD THIS BECOME A GLOBAL STANDARD OR WILL IT REMAIN A NICHE SOLUTION FOR FIRE-SCARRED
[00:49:31] RANCHES?
[00:49:33] >> AS A FOREST ECOLOGIST, I THINK MY QUESTIONS WOULD BE
[00:49:36] IMMEDIATELY ABOUT IF YOU USE THAT TECHNIQUE, LET'S SAY, IN A
[00:49:39] HARVESTED AREA, HOW DOES THAT IMPACT THE NUTRIENT CYCLING, THE
[00:49:43] WATER PROCESSES, YOU KNOW,
[00:49:46] THE -- YEAH, THE ABILITY FOR THE DECAY PROCESSES THAT NEED TO
[00:49:49] HAPPEN FOR THEM TO HAPPEN.
[00:49:52] I THINK THAT SCALING UP INTO NATURAL ECOSYSTEMS LIKE THAT,
[00:49:55] YEAH, I'D HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS. >> Johanna: SO WHERE DOES THAT
[00:49:59] LEAVE US? WELL, FOR NOW WE MAY HAVE MORE QUESTIONS THAN ANSWERS.
[00:50:02] IT'S A PRAGMATIC RESPONSE TO A BURNING PROBLEM, BUT WE HAVE TO
[00:50:05] RESPECT THE ECOLOGICAL REALITY THAT A FOREST NEEDS MESS TO BE
[00:50:07] HEALTHY.
[00:50:10] >> SO I WOULD SAY ON ONE HAND
[00:50:12] THIS RESEARCH SHOWS, YES, IT IS
[00:50:15] POSSIBLE TO PRESERVE FOR LONG, LONG TIME TO COMBAT CLIMATE
[00:50:19] CHANGE.
[00:50:22] ON THE OTHER HAND, IT ALSO
[00:50:24] CAUTIONS THAT IT'S NOT JUST
[00:50:27] RANDOMLY DIGGING A HOLE OR BURY
[00:50:30] SOMETHING THAT WILL WORK, AND SO IT'S IMPORTANT ACTUALLY TO DO IT
[00:50:34] THE RIGHT WAY.
[00:50:36] >> Johanna: ULTIMATELY, THERE IS
[00:50:39] NO ONE-SIZE-FITS-ALL SOLUTION, BUT MAYBE CARBON BUNKERS ARE A
[00:50:41] FASCINATING BRIDGE. >> Paul: SO COMPARED TO THAT
[00:50:45] KIND OF LARGE-SCALE PROPOSAL, HERE'S A LITTLE SOMETHING
[00:50:49] EVERYONE CAN DO TO HELP KEEP CARBON IN THE TREES.
[00:50:52] JUST BE CAREFUL IN THE WOODS.
[00:50:55] OF THE 23 NEW FIRES REPORTED TODAY, ABOUT HALF -- HALF --
[00:50:59] WERE CAUSED BY HUMAN ACTIVITY.
[00:51:03] >>> COMING UP, A RUNNER COMPLETES THE LENGTH OF THE ALPS
[00:51:06] IN RECORD TIME. >> I WAS THERE TO FINISH IT.
[00:51:10] I THINK PROBABLY AT THAT POINT I WOULD HAVE CRAWLED.
[00:51:14] >> Paul: HER 28-DAY JOURNEY TO CONQUER THE TERRAIN, NEXT IN OUR
[00:51:17] "MOMENT."
[00:56:37] TAKE CARE.
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[00:56:51] ♪
[01:00:30] >> Paul: TONIGHT, TWO YOUNG PEOPLE CHARGED WITH SHOOTING AT THE U.S. CONSULATE IN TORONTO,
[01:00:34] ONE OF THEM JUST 15 YEARS OLD.
[01:00:37] >> IT'S HIGH TIME WE STOPPED THE REVOLVING DOOR OF YOUNG PEOPLE
[01:00:41] AND YOUNG ADULTS BEING ENGAGED
[01:00:43] IN THIS KIND OF BRAZEN ACTIVITY.
[01:00:45] >> Paul: A DRIVE-BY SHOOTING AND HIGH-SPEED CHASE.
[01:00:49] NOW POLICE SAY THE SUSPECTS WERE HIRED THROUGH ENCRYPTED APPS,
[01:00:52] AND IT'S NOT THE FIRST TIME.
[01:00:56] >>> TRADE TALKS RAMP UP IN WASHINGTON AS LEADERS TRADE JABS.
[01:00:59] >> President Trump: CANADA'S NASTY. THEY ARE. THEY ARE NASTY.