CBCNEWS — Live CBC Newsroom With Natasha Fatah 20260808 150000 UTC 295 transcript segments Original Broadcaster Captioning (Enhanced) Data courtesy of The GDELT Project (https://www.gdeltproject.org/), from the Internet Archive TV News Archive. Machine transcription. Treat it as a searchable index of what was broadcast, not a verbatim quotation record. [00:00:19] I'm Adrian Arceneaux, chief correspondent for CBC News. Here's what's making news right now. [00:00:25] >> Marianne: OUR TOP STORY THIS HOUR, THE ENTIRE POPULATION OF [00:00:29] HOUR, THE ENTIRE POPULATION OF SUMMERLAND IN BRITISH COLUMBIA SUMMERLAND IN BRITISH COLUMBIA IS UNDER EVACUATION ORDER [00:00:32] IS UNDER EVACUATION ORDER BECAUSE OF A FAST-MOVING BECAUSE OF A FAST-MOVING WILDFIRE. [00:00:35] WILDFIRE. THE ORDER AFFECTS ABOUT 12,000 THE ORDER AFFECTS ABOUT 12,000 RESIDENTS. [00:00:38] RESIDENTS. THE BALD RANGE WILDFIRE GREW [00:00:41] THE BALD RANGE WILDFIRE GREW RAPIDLY TO 50 SQUARE KILOMETRES [00:00:44] RAPIDLY TO 50 SQUARE KILOMETRES WITHIN HOURS. [00:00:47] WITHIN HOURS. THE PROVINCIAL FIRE SERVICE THE PROVINCIAL FIRE SERVICE SAYS GUSTY WINDS HAVE FUELLED [00:00:51] SAYS GUSTY WINDS HAVE FUELLED THE GROWTH AND COMPLICATED THE GROWTH AND COMPLICATED FIREFIGHTING EFFORTS. [00:00:54] FIREFIGHTING EFFORTS. LINDA WARD HAS THE LATEST ON [00:00:57] LINDA WARD HAS THE LATEST ON THE EFFORTS ON THIS [00:01:02] THE EFFORTS ON THIS OUT-OF-CONTROL WILDFIRE. OUT-OF-CONTROL WILDFIRE. >> Reporter: THE ENTIRE >> Reporter: THE ENTIRE MUNICIPALITY OF SUMMERLAND [00:01:06] MUNICIPALITY OF SUMMERLAND STILL UNDER THIS EVACUATION STILL UNDER THIS EVACUATION ORDER. ORDER. A NUMBER OF ADJACENT PROPERTIES [00:01:09] A NUMBER OF ADJACENT PROPERTIES AND PEACHLAND PROPERTIES ALSO AND PEACHLAND PROPERTIES ALSO UNDER EVACUATION ORDER. [00:01:13] UNDER EVACUATION ORDER. IT WAS CERTAINLY A TOUGH NIGHT [00:01:18] IT WAS CERTAINLY A TOUGH NIGHT FOR RESIDENTS OF SUMMERLAND. FOR RESIDENTS OF SUMMERLAND. 12,000EOPLE TOLD "GET OUT" [00:01:21] 12,000EOPLE TOLD "GET OUT" AROUND MIDNIGHT. AROUND MIDNIGHT. THE FIRE WAS ONLY DETECTED [00:01:24] THE FIRE WAS ONLY DETECTED ABOUT 5:30 P.M. LOCAL TIME AND [00:01:27] ABOUT 5:30 P.M. LOCAL TIME AND RESIDENTS STOOD BY AND WATCHED RESIDENTS STOOD BY AND WATCHED IT AS IT GREW BEFORE THEIR [00:01:31] IT AS IT GREW BEFORE THEIR EYES. EYES. SOME HAVE LOST EVERYTHING SOME HAVE LOST EVERYTHING ALREADY. [00:01:34] ALREADY. GEORGE RUSSELL IS ONE OF THE [00:01:37] GEORGE RUSSELL IS ONE OF THE EVACUEES OUR CREWS SPOKE WITH [00:01:40] EVACUEES OUR CREWS SPOKE WITH AT THE EVACUATION CENTRE. [00:01:41] AT THE EVACUATION CENTRE. >> YEAH, YEAH OUR HOUSE IS [00:01:48] >> YEAH, YEAH OUR HOUSE IS GONE. GONE. RAISES A FEW EMOTIONS. RAISES A FEW EMOTIONS. WE FOUND OUT OUR NEIGHBOUR'S [00:01:52] WE FOUND OUT OUR NEIGHBOUR'S HOUSE IS GONE AND WHEN I WAS [00:01:56] HOUSE IS GONE AND WHEN I WAS LEAVING THE WHOLE HILL BEHIND LEAVING THE WHOLE HILL BEHIND US WAS ON FIRE, COMING DOWN, SO [00:02:00] US WAS ON FIRE, COMING DOWN, SO WE'RE GOING TO GO IN THERE AND WE'RE GOING TO GO IN THERE AND FIND A PLACE TO SLEEP TONIGHT [00:02:04] FIND A PLACE TO SLEEP TONIGHT HOPEFULLY. [00:02:05] HOPEFULLY. ANY WAY, I'VE GOT TO GO TEND TO [00:02:10] ANY WAY, I'VE GOT TO GO TEND TO MY ANIMALS HERE. [00:02:13] MY ANIMALS HERE. >> Linda: TOUGH STORY. [00:02:14] >> Linda: TOUGH STORY. WE SPOKE TO LINDA GIBBS WHO [00:02:18] WE SPOKE TO LINDA GIBBS WHO LIVES IN THE EVACUATION CENTRE [00:02:21] LIVES IN THE EVACUATION CENTRE ON A FARM. [00:02:22] ON A FARM. SHE LEFT WITH HER HUSBAND AND [00:02:25] SHE LEFT WITH HER HUSBAND AND SISTER. SISTER. HER FATHER STAYED TO KEEP THE [00:02:29] HER FATHER STAYED TO KEEP THE FARM SAFE. [00:02:30] FARM SAFE. HERE'S WHAT SHE DESCRIBES. [00:02:35] HERE'S WHAT SHE DESCRIBES. >> HE'S RUNNING AROUND, OPENING [00:02:36] >> HE'S RUNNING AROUND, OPENING ALL THE GATES, LETTING ALL THE [00:02:40] ALL THE GATES, LETTING ALL THE HORSES OUT, SHOOING THEM HORSES OUT, SHOOING THEM AROUND. [00:02:44] AROUND. OUR COWS, THEY WERE GETTING OUR COWS, THEY WERE GETTING PUSHED OUT OF THE PROPERTY AND PUSHED OUT OF THE PROPERTY AND STUFF, YEAH. [00:02:48] STUFF, YEAH. IT WAS JUST A HORRIBLE FEELING. [00:02:49] IT WAS JUST A HORRIBLE FEELING. IT WAS, LIKE, GUT-WRENCHING IT WAS, LIKE, GUT-WRENCHING ALMOST, NOT KNOWING WHETHER [00:02:53] ALMOST, NOT KNOWING WHETHER THEY WOULD LIVE OR DIE AND [00:02:56] THEY WOULD LIVE OR DIE AND NOT -- NOT KNOWING IF YOU WOULD [00:02:58] NOT -- NOT KNOWING IF YOU WOULD HAVE THE HOUSE TO GO HOME TO, [00:03:00] HAVE THE HOUSE TO GO HOME TO, IT'S JUST A HORRIBLE FEELING. IT'S JUST A HORRIBLE FEELING. >> Reporter: LEAVING BEHIND [00:03:04] >> Reporter: LEAVING BEHIND ANIMALS, LEAVING BEHIND ANIMALS, LEAVING BEHIND BELONGINGS, JUST GETTING OUT [00:03:07] BELONGINGS, JUST GETTING OUT AND GETTING TO SAFETY HAS BEEN AND GETTING TO SAFETY HAS BEEN DIFFICULT. DIFFICULT. THE B.C. WILDFIRE SERVICE WAS [00:03:11] THE B.C. WILDFIRE SERVICE WAS USING AIR TANKERS TO ATTACK [00:03:12] USING AIR TANKERS TO ATTACK THIS FIRE FROM THE EAST TO STOP [00:03:17] THIS FIRE FROM THE EAST TO STOP IT FROM SPREADING TO THE EAST. IT FROM SPREADING TO THE EAST. THAT'S WHERE MOST OF THE [00:03:20] THAT'S WHERE MOST OF THE RESIDENTS ARE IN THIS TOWN. RESIDENTS ARE IN THIS TOWN. WINDS PICKED UP. [00:03:23] WINDS PICKED UP. THAT BECAME DANGEROUS IN THE THAT BECAME DANGEROUS IN THE OVERNIGHT HOURS SO THEY HAD TO [00:03:26] OVERNIGHT HOURS SO THEY HAD TO ABANDON THAT. [00:03:29] ABANDON THAT. FIREFIGHTERS REMAINED ON-SITE [00:03:32] FIREFIGHTERS REMAINED ON-SITE TRYING TO PROVIDE TRYING TO PROVIDE INFRASTRUCTURE PROTECTION, JUST INFRASTRUCTURE PROTECTION, JUST TRYING TO PROTECT THE HOMES [00:03:36] TRYING TO PROTECT THE HOMES THEY COULD. [00:03:38] THEY COULD. >> Marianne: PEOPLE BEING TOLD [00:03:42] >> Marianne: PEOPLE BEING TOLD TO LEAVE. TO LEAVE. NOW WHAT? NOW WHAT? >> Linda: THE ONE THEY'RE BEING [00:03:46] >> Linda: THE ONE THEY'RE BEING TOLD TO GO TO IS THE PENTICTON [00:03:50] TOLD TO GO TO IS THE PENTICTON TRADE AND CONVENTION CENTRE. [00:03:51] TRADE AND CONVENTION CENTRE. THEY'LL HAVE AIDES AND SERVICES [00:03:55] THEY'LL HAVE AIDES AND SERVICES ON-SITE. ON-SITE. REGISTER, REGISTER AHEAD OF [00:03:58] REGISTER, REGISTER AHEAD OF TIME EVEN IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN TIME EVEN IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN PROCESSED YET. [00:04:01] PROCESSED YET. VERY, VERY BUSY THERE. VERY, VERY BUSY THERE. PEOPLE ARE BEING ASKED FOR [00:04:05] PEOPLE ARE BEING ASKED FOR PATIENCE. PATIENCE. WE'VE HEARD FROM ERICK [00:04:08] WE'VE HEARD FROM ERICK THOMPSON, ONE OF THE DISTRICT [00:04:09] THOMPSON, ONE OF THE DISTRICT OFFICERS FOR BOUNDARY OFFICERS FOR BOUNDARY SIMILKAMEEN. [00:04:13] SIMILKAMEEN. HE WAS ALSO TOLD TO LEAVE HIS HE WAS ALSO TOLD TO LEAVE HIS HOME AND HE WAS BROADCASTING [00:04:17] HOME AND HE WAS BROADCASTING LIVE AS HE DID IT. LIVE AS HE DID IT. >> MY HOME IS LIKE PRETTY MUCH [00:04:20] >> MY HOME IS LIKE PRETTY MUCH EVERYONE IN SUMMERLAND, IS [00:04:22] EVERYONE IN SUMMERLAND, IS IMPACTED BY THIS WILDFIRE. IMPACTED BY THIS WILDFIRE. I'LL JUST TURNAROUND RIGHT [00:04:26] I'LL JUST TURNAROUND RIGHT THERE AND SHOW YOU WHAT'S GOING THERE AND SHOW YOU WHAT'S GOING ON BUT RIGHT NOW THERE ARE [00:04:29] ON BUT RIGHT NOW THERE ARE PEOPLE ALL TRYING TO GET OUT OF [00:04:32] PEOPLE ALL TRYING TO GET OUT OF THIS AREA. [00:04:34] THIS AREA. POLICE ARE HERE KEEPING AN EYE [00:04:37] POLICE ARE HERE KEEPING AN EYE ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD BUT THE ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD BUT THE TRAFFIC FROM WHAT WE UNDERSTAND [00:04:40] TRAFFIC FROM WHAT WE UNDERSTAND GOING INTO PENTICTON IS VERY [00:04:43] GOING INTO PENTICTON IS VERY BUSY. BUSY. >> Linda: AND HIGHWAY 97, THE [00:04:46] >> Linda: AND HIGHWAY 97, THE OKANAGAN HIGHWAY, IS CLOSED IN [00:04:50] OKANAGAN HIGHWAY, IS CLOSED IN BOTH DIRECTIONS FROM PEACHLAND [00:04:53] BOTH DIRECTIONS FROM PEACHLAND TO PYRAMID PICNIC AREA. [00:04:59] TO PYRAMID PICNIC AREA. YOU CAN SEE A CLIP HERE OF THE [00:05:01] YOU CAN SEE A CLIP HERE OF THE FIRE JUMPING THE HIGHWAY. FIRE JUMPING THE HIGHWAY. THIS AREA OF HIGHWAY 97 CLOSED [00:05:05] THIS AREA OF HIGHWAY 97 CLOSED DOWN, SO DEFINITELY A HARROWING [00:05:09] DOWN, SO DEFINITELY A HARROWING JOURNEY FOR PEOPLE HERE. [00:05:13] JOURNEY FOR PEOPLE HERE. >> Marianne: THANKS FOR THIS, >> Marianne: THANKS FOR THIS, LINDA. LINDA. >> Linda: YOU'RE WELCOME. [00:05:16] >> Linda: YOU'RE WELCOME. >> Marianne: AND ALONG WITH THE [00:05:18] >> Marianne: AND ALONG WITH THE FIRE IT'S VERY SMOKEY AS B.C. [00:05:21] FIRE IT'S VERY SMOKEY AS B.C. CONTINUES TO BATTLE OVER 100 CONTINUES TO BATTLE OVER 100 WILDFIRES. [00:05:26] Up on tariffs to get a concession please Prime [00:05:28] Minister on provincial Boostan. Should they give it up, Sir? [00:05:32] Good weekend. Prime Minister Mark Carney wasn't talking [00:05:35] about the reports that Canada has floated significant [00:05:38] concessions in trade talks with the US. Sources tell CBC News [00:05:42] Canada could be willing to end the provincial bans on American [00:05:46] liquor that the Trump administration cited as a key [00:05:49] reason for its latest threat to impose new 50% tariffs on a [00:05:53] wide range of Canadian goods in less than two weeks. Canada [00:05:56] would also be willing to drop its counter tariffs on US [00:05:59] vehicles and make some concessions on dairy, likely [00:06:02] just tweaks. But lifting the booze ban could be [00:06:05] controversial with some Canadians and depends on the [00:06:09] agreement of premiers, many of whom have stood firm [00:06:12] that sectoral tariffs must be lifted first. There is not a [00:06:15] chance in hell that US alcohol is going back on the shelf in [00:06:19] British Columbia. Ontario is already pushing back. Our [00:06:22] resolve is fur to keep US liquor off the shelves until we [00:06:26] see the details of a comprehensive deal. As is [00:06:29] Quebec, the premier saying in a French statement. Quebec and Quebec [00:06:33] alone will make that decision. We have several premiers saying [00:06:36] unless those 232 tariffs go to 0, [00:06:38] they're not gonna put booze back on shelves. So this is a [00:06:41] real problem if we're going to see an agreement by August 19th. [00:06:44] If Canada makes concessions, it would expect not only for [00:06:47] the US to drop the threat of new tariffs, [00:06:50] but also to reduce the existing ones on Canadian medals, [00:06:52] vehicles and forest products. The fact that they're talking [00:06:56] about both of those is very, very positive. But industry [00:06:59] sources with knowledge of the talks have said the US has made [00:07:02] it clear the existing tariffs [00:07:03] won't disappear entirely. I'm optimistic as I know some, [00:07:07] a lot of my counterparts are that, that, that we're in, [00:07:10] we're in the process. We wanted to be in for months to have an [00:07:13] actual substantial discussion about, you know, [00:07:16] what each side is willing to, to give and take. Sources tell [00:07:19] CBC News that Canadian negotiators have informed their [00:07:22] American counterparts that they view August 19th as a make or [00:07:26] break moment in the relationship. And if the US [00:07:28] goes ahead with 50% tariffs, there'll be little appetite in [00:07:32] Canada for a return to talks. Evan Dyer, [00:07:34] CBC News, Ottawa Alright, let's bring in Katie Simpson, [00:07:37] now guest host of Power and Politics this week. Katie, [00:07:40] you were speaking with those industry sources. What did [00:07:43] those conversations suggest to you about the overall state of [00:07:47] talks? The Canadian teams had a [00:07:49] difficult go of getting FaceTime with the Americans. So [00:07:52] in order for all of these meetings to happen, [00:07:54] it's not surprising to see that Canada is talking about [00:07:58] concessions. That's one way to bring the Americans to the [00:08:01] table in a serious way. And that backs that. Our reporting [00:08:04] backs that up. [00:08:06] It's also clear the Carney government is deeply concerned [00:08:08] about outcomes and then optics. The sources tell me if a deal [00:08:12] is reached, it has to be framed in a win [00:08:14] win kind of way, No lopsided US win that Donald [00:08:17] Trump can go out and brag about. That, of course, [00:08:20] would make it harder for Ottawa to get Canadians to support a [00:08:24] deal that will likely involve concessions. But when we say [00:08:27] deal, what exactly are we talking [00:08:29] about in this moment? Canada is trying to prevent new [00:08:32] tariffs from coming into force and get those tariffs on [00:08:35] Canadian directors, including steel and aluminum, [00:08:38] lowered. They will still have to separately try to get Kuzma [00:08:41] talks back on track, and that's something we now [00:08:44] know they're trying to secure. [00:08:47] And so for the first time in a long time, Katie, I mean, [00:08:50] can it be said there appears to be momentum? Yeah. Well, [00:08:53] Dominic LeBlanc is going back to Washington next week, [00:08:56] or at least that's the plan. Canadian and American [00:08:59] negotiators are going to remain in daily contact. They wouldn't [00:09:02] be doing that if there wasn't something specific to talk [00:09:05] about. But Canada has been in this situation before where [00:09:09] there's this flurry of activity. It appears a deal is within [00:09:12] reach and that it just blows up. Last summer after the G7 in [00:09:15] Kananaskis talks were headed toward a deal and then all of [00:09:18] that had her died down last fall when the talks ramped up again [00:09:22] and then Ontario released an anti tariff ad that upset [00:09:25] President Trump and we all know what happened after that. Even [00:09:29] if there is momentum, anything can happen. [00:09:32] Alright, Thanks, Katie. That's Katie Simpson in Ottawa tonight. [00:11:44] The Canadian economy has been weathering American tariffs and [00:11:47] sluggish growth now a new sign things could be turning around. [00:11:52] Stats Canada says this summer there's a surge of new jobs, 75, [00:11:57] 000 added in July. The Canadian economy appears to be [00:12:01] rebounding. The unemployment rate fell to 6.4%, [00:12:05] the lowest it's been in two years. 181, [00:12:08] 000 jobs added since April, and Ontario added 52, [00:12:12] 000 jobs in July alone. The province has been hit [00:12:15] especially hard by tariffs targeting auto and steel, [00:12:20] but other industries are seeing growth. [00:12:23] There was a loss of significant numbers of manufacturing jobs [00:12:27] right after the first US tariffs were announced. But [00:12:30] what we've been seeing in the last few months is rebounds and [00:12:34] other sectors. Professional services, [00:12:36] which would include consultants and engineers, [00:12:39] as well as financial services also looking stronger. The [00:12:42] summer job numbers for 15 to 24 year olds. The unemployment [00:12:46] rate the lowest it's been in more than two years, [00:12:49] but still not good enough for those struggling to find work [00:12:53] at this recent job fair. [00:12:54] Need a job. I haven't been hired anywhere else. It's been [00:12:58] tough. It's been very competitive. I've been to like [00:13:01] 10 interviews this summer alone. I can't get a job. Students in [00:13:04] their early 20s seem to be faring a bit better. It's still [00:13:08] really tricky to find that first job as a high school [00:13:11] student. But we are seeing more and more of the elder youth, [00:13:15] you know, those university aged [00:13:16] professionals coming into the job market are finding work. [00:13:20] All in all, economists say this jobs report [00:13:22] is strong. But As for what's to come, the outlook is still uncertain [00:13:27] and there remain a lot of risks and a lot of questions, [00:13:30] especially about the ongoing North American trade [00:13:33] negotiations and the potential impact on the Canadian economy. [00:13:37] Machta Gebrselassie, CBC News, Toronto. [00:17:46] We're going to be home and you're gonna be able to play with Nova. [00:17:50] It will be good. [00:17:53] We'll get there. Treasured pets are all that Rajon Simpson has [00:17:57] left. On Saturday, she raced into a rapidly [00:18:00] growing inferno to save them. The smoke, the smoke that I saw, [00:18:04] the cops had it blocked off and they weren't going to let me go [00:18:09] in and they said my house is right up there, [00:18:12] my animals are up there, I have to get them out. The [00:18:16] Bradley Creek wildfire tore through her home near Vernon, [00:18:20] BC, a house she built with her late husband. [00:18:23] Living there since he passed, I felt his spirit, [00:18:26] I felt his love all through the house and now that's gone. [00:18:31] I know he's still with me, but [00:18:35] it's all good. [00:18:37] Around 230 structures burnt to the ground. The Okanagan Indian [00:18:42] Band is still surveying the damage. Thousands have been [00:18:46] evacuated, dozens staying at this slot in [00:18:49] the heart of the city, [00:18:51] many grateful for the support from the community, [00:18:54] some humbled to know their homes are still standing. We've [00:18:58] met people and heard about them. Loss of their incomplete place [00:19:02] with 30 seconds to leave. So we were, [00:19:05] we were quite blessed. About 24 kilometers S, [00:19:08] the Quill Pittock Creek wildfire is also burning out of [00:19:12] control. More than 2000 homes are under evacuation order. [00:19:15] That fire is raging on the other side of Okanogan Lake [00:19:19] behind me here, and the smoke is so intense [00:19:22] that it almost looks like you're staring into an ocean. [00:19:25] Air quality across the region has plummeted. It affects my [00:19:29] lungs. You can't. I mean, we, we noticed immediately getting [00:19:33] off the plane a couple days ago [00:19:35] that you can taste the air, the wildfires still raging. But [00:19:39] people like Simpson are already planning to rebuild. I will be [00:19:43] back there where I was living. Yeah, [00:19:46] that's where I want to be, rising from the ashes like the [00:19:50] Phoenix. Yeah. Here overlooking Vernon, [00:19:52] you can really see the smoke settling in on the city, [00:19:55] making it hard for people to breathe. And that is expected [00:19:59] to last for at least the next few days, [00:20:01] as is the hot and dry weather and even some gusting winds [00:20:05] that won't help firefighters. And, John, [00:20:08] I guess we understand there's no clear timeline on when [00:20:11] evacuees will be allowed to return. Yeah, Paul, [00:20:14] officials say it's just too dangerous [00:20:16] right now. The two fires are still blazing out of control, [00:20:20] and the conditions could make them even worse. On top of that, [00:20:24] there's well over 100 downed power lines in the area, [00:20:27] making things that much more dangerous. So still very much [00:20:31] an active emergency zone. [00:20:33] OK, Thank you, John. John Hernandez in Vernon, BC tonight. [00:25:25] Raging, blistering wildfires have [00:25:27] become part of the Canadian summer. OK, [00:25:29] all need to hurry up here. Like seriously, [00:25:32] we're in cased in flames now, [00:25:35] scorching the country and destroying communities. The [00:25:39] wildfires that swept across our region has changed my [00:25:43] community [00:25:45] personally, it's gone. Chiefs in remote [00:25:47] northern Ontario are worried about the yearly fires. They're [00:25:51] seeing the changes escalating. We're not prepared to, [00:25:55] to respond, to react. [00:25:57] A new study confirms human induced climate change. The [00:26:01] burning of fossil fuels made Julia's wildfires in Ontario [00:26:04] and the Northwest Territories roughly twice as likely to [00:26:08] occur and more intense and difficult to contain. There is [00:26:11] a very strong relationship between the fire weather, [00:26:15] which we know is attributable to human caused climate change, [00:26:19] and the burned area that we've seen in Canada in in these [00:26:22] recent years. The World Weather Attribution Study also predicts [00:26:26] more frequent extreme fire events in the Northwest [00:26:30] Territories every two to six years. In Ontario every six to [00:26:34] 15 years. This month of fire weather would have been seen [00:26:38] about once every 100 years without human caused climate [00:26:41] change. Experts say these dire predictions should accelerate [00:26:46] efforts to align mitigation efforts with this new reality. [00:26:50] For one, a well funded national [00:26:52] firefighting force. A lot of people think planes put out the [00:26:56] fires. They help especially in the fires small, [00:26:59] they buy you time, but the men and women [00:27:02] on the fire line, the boots on the ground put the [00:27:06] fire out and more resilient buildings using non flammable [00:27:10] materials on the periphery. There are places in California [00:27:14] now, new subdivisions making these [00:27:16] types of things mandatory and that is the way to go. All [00:27:20] tools to reduce risk and better contain fires predicted to only [00:27:24] get worse. Jimmy Strachan, CBC News, Toronto.