CBCNEWS — Live CBC Newsroom With Aarti Pole 20260814 140000 UTC 1673 transcript segments Original Broadcaster Captioning (Enhanced) Data courtesy of The GDELT Project (https://www.gdeltproject.org/), from the Internet Archive TV News Archive. Machine transcription. Treat it as a searchable index of what was broadcast, not a verbatim quotation record. [00:22:22] I can't really explain it, but something inside is telling [00:22:27] me this is my time. [00:22:29] There's no waiting for tomorrow, no such thing. I've got to show [00:22:34] everyone how great I am. There's a place in history [00:22:38] waiting for me. [00:22:41] You don't know who I am. [00:22:45] Just watch the Diamond League. Watch all season on CBC and CBC [00:22:50] Jail. [00:41:57] Power and politics, the scale of the crisis and chaos and a day like this. We gotta get to the power panel [00:42:01] early. Experts and party insiders break it all down. [00:42:03] This is a shift in the Liberal position. And then the Tories [00:42:06] are just left to say, well, you're not moving fast and [00:42:09] making sense of our world. Conditions have gotten pretty [00:42:12] bad and they look like they're gonna get worse. Can't now walk [00:42:15] that back because governing is a lot harder than campaigning. [00:42:18] He's a drag on his own party, extremely difficult choices. [00:42:21] The Power Panel on power and politics with David Cochrane, weekdays on CBC News. [00:56:22] The news doesn't sleep. We are here to help you hit the ground [00:56:25] running. Your news, your weather, [00:56:27] your morning. Good Morning Canada. CBC Morning Live with David. [00:56:32] I can't really explain it, but something inside is telling [00:56:36] me this is my time. [00:56:39] There's no waiting for tomorrow, no such thing. I've got to show [00:56:44] everyone how great I am. There's a place in history [00:56:48] waiting for me. [00:56:50] You don't know who I am. [00:56:54] Just watch the Diamond League. Watch all season on CBC and CBC [00:57:00] Jail. [00:57:05] Hi there, Canada. [00:57:06] Hi Siri, [00:57:09] How are you holding up? [00:57:13] It's been difficult to say the least. [00:57:17] I intend to resign as party leader, as Prime Minister. [00:57:23] The funny, not so funny thing about the [00:57:26] world right now [00:57:27] is the thing that can consume your thoughts [00:57:31] is the thing you maybe didn't see coming. [00:57:35] My favorite word? Tariff [00:57:38] is going to be cracking down. Minimum 10% tariff on all [00:57:41] imports. Some contracts are already getting cancelled. [00:57:44] Facing a potential 25 or even 50% tariff on steel exports. [00:57:48] We're already hearing about layoffs. Feeling the financial [00:57:51] pain of Canada's 25% counter tariffs. He believes that [00:57:54] Canadians would benefit greatly from becoming the 51st state [00:57:58] when our sovereignty is threatened. [00:58:01] You do what you can. He is trying to break us. So you have [00:58:04] questions. How should Canadians be preparing for that next trip? [00:58:08] What is your plan? How seriously are you taking [00:58:11] this threat of 100% tariffs on foreign made films? [00:58:14] A lot of questions. How is Hamilton bracing for tariff [00:58:18] impact? When we talk about counter [00:58:20] terrorists, do those affect you? How much does it cost to be [00:58:24] patriotic when picking items at the grocery store? [00:58:27] And while your elbows have been up, elbows up. [00:58:32] For us, it's the sleeves rolled up. [00:58:34] Because you need answers about your neighborhood, your world, [00:58:38] your Canada, [00:58:40] and what it means for all of us to say we are Canadian. [00:58:49] Our journalists countrywide and all over the world are on the [00:58:53] case. [00:58:55] Do you think you're gonna have to close? [00:58:57] I hate to think about that. [00:59:06] I'm about 15 kilometers from the Russian border. Where are [00:59:10] Canada's allies? Where are Canada's markets? [00:59:12] What is this country's place on the planet? [00:59:15] It's the uncertainty that's the [00:59:17] this issue. What is the next thing to happen and what will [00:59:22] it mean for all of us? We assume that it will be a [00:59:26] difficult Rd. Canada. We got you and we are right there [00:59:30] right beside you trying to make sense of it with you. [00:59:47] Power and politics, the scale of the crisis and chaos and a day like this. We gotta get to the power panel [00:59:51] early. Experts and party insiders break it all down. [00:59:54] This is a shift in the Liberal position. And then the Tories [00:59:57] are just left to say, well, you're not moving fast and [00:59:59] making sense of our world. Conditions have gotten pretty [01:00:02] bad and they look like they're gonna get worse. Can't now walk [01:00:05] that back because governing is a lot harder than campaigning. [01:00:08] He's a drag on his own party, extremely difficult choices. [01:00:11] The Power Panel on power and politics with David Cochrane, weekdays on CBC News. [01:00:30] Canada U.S. Trade Minister Dominic LeBlanc met with U.S. [01:00:32] Trade Representative Jameson Greer in Washington as pressure [01:00:36] to get a new trade deal ratchets up even higher. [01:00:41] He rejected any proposals by the US [01:00:44] about that. LeBlanc keeping radio silence on a possible [01:00:48] deadlock despite the looming deadline. New potentially [01:00:52] devastating 50% US tariffs on a wide range of Canadian goods [01:00:56] are just days from snapping into place. But at least one [01:01:00] premier made it clear he doesn't want Ottawa to blink [01:01:03] first. Evan Dyer joins us now from Ottawa. Evan, [01:01:07] have we seen any signs of progress in these talks? [01:01:10] Not really. Crystal, the Canadians in the US trade [01:01:14] representative, [01:01:15] Famous and Greer met for just under 2 hours this afternoon [01:01:18] and he emerged with this message. [01:01:20] We had good discussions today. We were cordial. They were [01:01:24] detailed, the president, the Prime Minister, [01:01:26] obviously they'll be given options and discussions, [01:01:29] but I don't think there's anything to report right now. [01:01:32] Is there a chance that there won't be? [01:01:34] So it comes after we heard earlier this week that Ottawa [01:01:38] rejected a proposal from Washington that lowered tariffs, [01:01:41] but apparently not by enough. We did, however, [01:01:44] hear from some premiers today. Yes, [01:01:46] we heard from both Premier Ford of Ontario and Premier [01:01:49] Frechette of Quebec stating pretty clearly [01:01:51] that they want federal negotiators to hold the line. [01:01:54] In the case of Frechette, we heard that supply management [01:01:57] is a non negotiable for Quebec and that message has been [01:01:59] communicated to Ottawa. And she also seemed to be looking past [01:02:02] next Wednesday to a future where these threatened new [01:02:05] tariffs are already in place and seeking assurances that the [01:02:08] federal government would offer support to affected businesses [01:02:11] and workers. And we saw federal finance ministers say that yes, [01:02:14] the federal government will be there. He made those comments [01:02:17] in Saguenay, Quebec, which is a region that's [01:02:19] particularly vulnerable to tariffs because of its aluminum [01:02:23] and forestry industries. We expect Dominic LeBlanc to brief [01:02:26] his provincial counterparts on Friday. As for Ford, [01:02:29] he suggested he'll hold the line on Ontario's boycott of US [01:02:33] alcohol, saying he'll drop it only as [01:02:35] part of a fair deal. [01:02:37] I do not, I'm gonna emphasize, use alcohol as a bargaining [01:02:40] chip during the negotiations. If we get a fair deal that will [01:02:44] protect our steel sector, auto sector, [01:02:46] our forestry sector, agriculture sector, [01:02:49] manufacturing sector, then we'd be more than happy to [01:02:52] bring booze back on the shelves only if we have a deal that's [01:02:56] going to protect those sectors. So Ford added that pressure on [01:03:00] the US was important, in his words. Kinda negotiates [01:03:03] through strength, not weakness. And he's been [01:03:05] very clear that he opposes any situation [01:03:08] where the US keeps its tariffs on Canadian autos and Canadian [01:03:12] carrier tariffs come off. Alright. That's Evan Dyer in [01:03:15] Ottawa. Thanks so much. Thanks. [01:03:19] They give us just a sliver more of the story of what happened [01:03:23] on February 10th in the tiny, tight knit mountain town of [01:03:26] Tumblr Ridge. [01:03:27] A timeline of how police found the bodies of the 8 victims and [01:03:31] of the shooter, 18 year old Jesse Van [01:03:34] Rootselaar. The documents are heavily redacted. Strategic [01:03:38] communication is happening where [01:03:41] it is an RCMP choice, not a necessity or legal [01:03:45] requirement to withhold a lot of the information right now, [01:03:50] and that should be concerning to the public [01:03:55] most concerned about the details of the firearms used. [01:04:00] This is a big issue because there are concerns that have [01:04:05] been raised about whether police action or inaction might [01:04:10] have [01:04:12] interfered with the shooters ability to follow through with [01:04:16] the act at the school. [01:04:18] We do have more details about the 911 calls that poured in [01:04:22] that morning. First, a call about an SUV driving [01:04:24] erratically away from the shooter's house, [01:04:27] then multiple calls of shots fired inside the school. [01:04:31] The documents give a timeline of officers arriving to the [01:04:34] scene, hearing gunshots, going into the school, [01:04:37] finding victims and ultimately the shooter dead with [01:04:40] self-inflicted gunshot wounds. The documents say police had to [01:04:43] hold while being shot at. [01:04:46] They also mentioned the shooter went by multiple different last [01:04:49] names and that some police officers thought there may have [01:04:52] been 2 shooters for a time. But much is still uncertain as many [01:04:55] pages are blacked out entirely. British Columbia has announced [01:04:58] there will be a coroners inquest into the shootings, [01:05:01] will examine issues like the shooters mental health and [01:05:04] access to weapons, as well as the role artificial [01:05:06] intelligence may have played in this case. And Michelle, [01:05:09] let's talk a little bit about some of the details that we [01:05:12] don't know yet. [01:05:14] There's a lot that the section about the shooter social media [01:05:17] accounts is redacted entirely. And while the documents show a [01:05:21] police response timeline, all the timestamps are redacted. [01:05:24] So we don't know details like how long passed between the [01:05:27] police getting to the school and actually getting to the [01:05:30] shooter. Michelle Allen in Vancouver, thank you. [01:05:36] FOR MONTHS. >>> ALL RIGHT. >>> ALL RIGHT. TURNING TO THE U.K. [01:05:39] TURNING TO THE U.K. AFTER WEEKS OF SPECTACLE AND [01:05:43] AFTER WEEKS OF SPECTACLE AND MOCKERY, REFORM U.K. LEADER [01:05:46] MOCKERY, REFORM U.K. LEADER NIGEL REGAINED HIS SEAT IN [01:05:48] NIGEL REGAINED HIS SEAT IN PARLIAMENT AFTER DEFEATING HIS [01:05:51] PARLIAMENT AFTER DEFEATING HIS COMEDIC OPPONENT. [01:05:54] COMEDIC OPPONENT. >> THE VERDICT IS IN AND IT'S AN [01:06:00] >> THE VERDICT IS IN AND IT'S AN OVERWHELMING WIN WITH MORE OVERWHELMING WIN WITH MORE VOTES. VOTES. [Cheering] [01:06:04] [Cheering] >> HE ADDRESSED HIS SUPPORTERS [01:06:07] >> HE ADDRESSED HIS SUPPORTERS AFTER WINNING THAT BY-ELECTION. [01:06:11] AFTER WINNING THAT BY-ELECTION. COUNT BIN FACE WAS THE MAIN [01:06:16] COUNT BIN FACE WAS THE MAIN COMPETITION. [01:06:17] COMPETITION. FARAGE QUIT HIS SEAT LAST MONTH [01:06:22] FARAGE QUIT HIS SEAT LAST MONTH OVER AN INVESTIGATION ON WHETHER [01:06:25] OVER AN INVESTIGATION ON WHETHER HE SHOULD ACCEPT A MULTI-MILLION [01:06:29] HE SHOULD ACCEPT A MULTI-MILLION DOLLAR GIFT. DOLLAR GIFT. THAT INVESTIGATION WAS RE-OPENED [01:06:32] THAT INVESTIGATION WAS RE-OPENED HOURS AFTER HIS WIN. HOURS AFTER HIS WIN. JULIA CHAPMAN IS FOLLOWING ALL [01:06:36] JULIA CHAPMAN IS FOLLOWING ALL OF THIS IN LONDON FOR US. [01:06:38] OF THIS IN LONDON FOR US. IT WAS PREDICTED THAT FARAGE [01:06:41] IT WAS PREDICTED THAT FARAGE WOULD WIN. WOULD WIN. HOW DID THE RESULTS SHAPE UP? [01:06:44] HOW DID THE RESULTS SHAPE UP? >> IT'S NOT A SURPRISE THAT >> IT'S NOT A SURPRISE THAT FARAGE HAS WON THE SEAT AGAIN. [01:06:48] FARAGE HAS WON THE SEAT AGAIN. HE IS PRETTY POPULAR IN EASTERN HE IS PRETTY POPULAR IN EASTERN ENGLAND. [01:06:52] ENGLAND. NONE OF THE OTHER MAIN POLITICAL [01:06:55] NONE OF THE OTHER MAIN POLITICAL PARTIES WERE RUNNING IN THIS PARTIES WERE RUNNING IN THIS ELECTION. [01:06:59] ELECTION. THEY BOYCOTTED THE VOTE CALLING THEY BOYCOTTED THE VOTE CALLING IT A STUNT. [01:07:02] IT A STUNT. THE NUMBERS WERE INTERESTING. [01:07:04] THE NUMBERS WERE INTERESTING. IT HAD A 44% TURNOUT. [01:07:07] IT HAD A 44% TURNOUT. WHICH IS HIGH FOR A BY-ELECTION. [01:07:10] WHICH IS HIGH FOR A BY-ELECTION. FARAGE WON BY 53% OF THE VOTE. [01:07:13] FARAGE WON BY 53% OF THE VOTE. WHICH WAS LESS THAN HE WAS WHICH WAS LESS THAN HE WAS EXPECTED TO GET. [01:07:17] EXPECTED TO GET. HIS MAIN RIVAL WAS THIS COMEDY [01:07:22] HIS MAIN RIVAL WAS THIS COMEDY CANDIDATE, COUNT BIN FACE. CANDIDATE, COUNT BIN FACE. HE WON MORE OF THE SHARE OF THE [01:07:26] HE WON MORE OF THE SHARE OF THE VOTE THAN HE WAS EXPECTED TO. VOTE THAN HE WAS EXPECTED TO. JUST UNDER 27%. [01:07:29] JUST UNDER 27%. HE WAS RUNNING ON THE PLATFORM [01:07:32] HE WAS RUNNING ON THE PLATFORM TO MAKE ARCADE GAMES FAIRER AND [01:07:40] TO MAKE ARCADE GAMES FAIRER AND ICE-CREAM CONES CHEAPER. [01:07:45] ICE-CREAM CONES CHEAPER. >> IF THEY CHOOSE NOT TO STAND, [01:07:47] >> IF THEY CHOOSE NOT TO STAND, SOMEBODY HAS TO STAND UP AND BE SOMEBODY HAS TO STAND UP AND BE THE OPPOSITION. [01:07:51] THE OPPOSITION. SO, YOU KNOW, WAS MY HUMBLE DUTY [01:07:54] SO, YOU KNOW, WAS MY HUMBLE DUTY TO ACTUALLY BE HIS MAJESTY'S TO ACTUALLY BE HIS MAJESTY'S OFFICIAL OPPOSITION. [01:07:58] OFFICIAL OPPOSITION. I HAVE TAKEN THAT WITH GREAT I HAVE TAKEN THAT WITH GREAT HONOUR. HONOUR. >> WHEN THE RESULTS WERE [01:08:02] >> WHEN THE RESULTS WERE ANNOUNCED EARLIER THIS MORNING, [01:08:03] ANNOUNCED EARLIER THIS MORNING, THE WINNER WAS NOWHERE TO BE [01:08:07] THE WINNER WAS NOWHERE TO BE SEEN. SEEN. NIGEL FARAGE DIDN'T ATTEND THE [01:08:10] NIGEL FARAGE DIDN'T ATTEND THE COUNT OR THE ANNOUNCEMENT. [01:08:12] COUNT OR THE ANNOUNCEMENT. HE SAID HE WAS WARNED OF A [01:08:15] HE SAID HE WAS WARNED OF A THREAT TO DISRUPT THIS EVENT AND THREAT TO DISRUPT THIS EVENT AND HUMILIATE HIM. [01:08:19] HUMILIATE HIM. THAT WARNING HAD COME FROM THE THAT WARNING HAD COME FROM THE POLICE. POLICE. THE LOCAL FORCE HAS DENIED THAT. [01:08:23] THE LOCAL FORCE HAS DENIED THAT. BUT INSTEAD, BREAKING WITH BUT INSTEAD, BREAKING WITH TRADITION, FARAGE DECIDED TO [01:08:25] TRADITION, FARAGE DECIDED TO CELEBRATE HIS WIN WITH HIS [01:08:27] CELEBRATE HIS WIN WITH HIS SUPPORTERS A THE A DIFFERENT SUPPORTERS A THE A DIFFERENT EVENT. [01:08:31] EVENT. >> JULIA, FOR OUR CANADIAN [01:08:34] >> JULIA, FOR OUR CANADIAN VIEWERS. VIEWERS. NIGEL FARAGE WAS ALREADY THE MP. [01:08:37] NIGEL FARAGE WAS ALREADY THE MP. WHY DID HE GO TO THE TROUBLE OF WHY DID HE GO TO THE TROUBLE OF LAUNCHING ANOTHER BY-ELECTION [01:08:40] LAUNCHING ANOTHER BY-ELECTION AND THE COST FOR HIS VOTERS? AND THE COST FOR HIS VOTERS? >> Reporter: IT'S A QUESTION [01:08:44] >> Reporter: IT'S A QUESTION THAT A LOT OF HIS RIVALS ARE [01:08:49] THAT A LOT OF HIS RIVALS ARE ASKING. ASKING. CALLING THIS A VANITY PROJECT. [01:08:51] CALLING THIS A VANITY PROJECT. THE REASON HE TRIGGERED THIS [01:08:54] THE REASON HE TRIGGERED THIS BY-ELECTION PROJECT IS THERE WAS BY-ELECTION PROJECT IS THERE WAS A LOT OF SCRUTINY OF HIS [01:08:58] A LOT OF SCRUTINY OF HIS FINANCES. FINANCES. HE WAS BEING INVESTIGATED FOR A [01:09:02] HE WAS BEING INVESTIGATED FOR A DONATION HE RECEIVED OF NEARLY 5 [01:09:06] DONATION HE RECEIVED OF NEARLY 5 MILLION POUNDS. [01:09:09] MILLION POUNDS. HE DIDN'T DECLARE THAT. HE DIDN'T DECLARE THAT. HE SAYS HE DIDN'T NEED TO AND HE [01:09:13] HE SAYS HE DIDN'T NEED TO AND HE CALLED THIS BY-ELECTION A CALLED THIS BY-ELECTION A REFERENDUM ON THAT CHOICE SAYING [01:09:16] REFERENDUM ON THAT CHOICE SAYING IT PROVES THAT THE VOTERS DON'T IT PROVES THAT THE VOTERS DON'T CARE. [01:09:20] CARE. HERE IS WHAT HE SAID EARLIER. HERE IS WHAT HE SAID EARLIER. >> I CALLED THIS BY-ELECTION [01:09:23] >> I CALLED THIS BY-ELECTION BECAUSE I WANTED THE PEOPLE -- [01:09:26] BECAUSE I WANTED THE PEOPLE -- THE VOTERS TO BE MY JUDGE, NOT [01:09:31] THE VOTERS TO BE MY JUDGE, NOT THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA IN BRITAIN. [01:09:37] THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA IN BRITAIN. AND THE POLITICAL ESTABLISHMENT [01:09:41] AND THE POLITICAL ESTABLISHMENT WHO PAINTED US OUT TO BE [01:09:43] WHO PAINTED US OUT TO BE CRIMINALS AND BAD PEOPLE EVERY [01:09:46] CRIMINALS AND BAD PEOPLE EVERY DAY. [01:09:47] DAY. SO I ASK THE VOTERS OF TO BE MY [01:09:52] SO I ASK THE VOTERS OF TO BE MY JEWELLERY. JEWELLERY. >> THE PROBLEMS DON'T GO AWAY [01:09:55] >> THE PROBLEMS DON'T GO AWAY FOR THE RIGHT WING U.K. PARTY [01:09:58] FOR THE RIGHT WING U.K. PARTY WHICH IS FLAGGING IN THE POLLS WHICH IS FLAGGING IN THE POLLS WHO HAVE BEEN LEADING [01:10:02] WHO HAVE BEEN LEADING NATIONALLY. NATIONALLY. AS OF THIS MORNING, NOW THAT [01:10:04] AS OF THIS MORNING, NOW THAT FARAGE IS AN MP AGAIN, THEY ARE [01:10:06] FARAGE IS AN MP AGAIN, THEY ARE RE-OPENING THAT INVESTIGATION [01:10:26] Bank, this time in the village of [01:10:28] Khusra, where militant settlers clashed [01:10:31] with Israeli troops. After the settlers cut off access to [01:10:34] three Palestinian homes, [01:10:38] Green Rd. that leads to the house was blocked, [01:10:40] says Ruqaiya Hasan. They dug up the road. They put rocks on it. [01:10:44] No one is allowed to pass through it. And they cut off [01:10:48] the electricity line. They cut off the water line from my from [01:10:52] my house. And my neighbor. Louie Reedy, [01:10:54] a Palestinian American, owns one of the homes that's [01:10:57] under siege. He's been watching from Ohio, [01:11:00] talking to his brother inside the house in Khusra where his [01:11:04] food is running low. [01:11:07] No one is helping him. And, and it just, you know, [01:11:10] it's terrifying. Video from a surveillance camera mounted on [01:11:14] Rudy's house until Israeli troops removed it shows [01:11:17] soldiers mingling with settlers. Other video appears to show [01:11:21] them praying together. The military initially took up [01:11:24] positions in Khusra and ordered several Palestinian families [01:11:28] out of their homes before reversing course and declaring [01:11:32] they could stay. Officially, the IDF calls this siege [01:11:35] illegal, reprehensible and unacceptable [01:11:38] and says any IDF member involved will face disciplinary [01:11:42] action. But human rights groups say previous incidents have [01:11:46] shown those are empty words. In many of the videos of the [01:11:49] attacks, you can see the settlers [01:11:52] attacking while there are soldiers together with them [01:11:55] either standing by and not doing anything or many times [01:11:59] even participating in those attacks. This attack has [01:12:03] prompted A sterner than usual response from Israel's closest [01:12:07] ally, the United States. [01:12:08] Mike Huckabee, the US ambassador to Israel, [01:12:12] has called the attackers Israeli terrorists while [01:12:15] insisting violence like this is the result of a very small [01:12:20] minority who do great damage. Tom Perry, CBC News, Ottawa. [01:12:27] In Germany, another anniversary marked In a [01:12:30] country where remembrance runs deep. [01:12:33] 65 years ago, people in Berlin woke up to [01:12:37] find a barbed wire fence had been erected. Overnight, [01:12:41] the Communist E cut off its people from fleeing to the [01:12:46] democratic W, splitting the city into. At [01:12:49] least 136 people died trying to cross. I'm afraid for our [01:12:54] freedom. Hartmut Richter successfully escaped. He swam [01:12:58] to the West in 1966. Then he helped 33 people escape too, [01:13:03] by smuggling them in the trunk of his. [01:13:06] So far, nobody could imagine that it [01:13:08] would be a 28 years. Many Germans thought the wall would [01:13:13] never come down until it did, nearly 3 decades later. It was [01:13:17] in my hotel and I heard in West Berlin and I heard so much [01:13:21] noise and I spent the whole night totally dazed with [01:13:25] everybody else crying and hugging. Since Unifying, [01:13:29] Germany has consistently advocated for the free movement [01:13:33] of people taking in large numbers of immigrants and [01:13:37] refugees. [01:13:39] But that identity is now facing one of its biggest tests. The [01:13:43] far right political party, the AFD Alternative for [01:13:47] Deutschland, continues to gain support. It [01:13:50] wants to severely restrict immigration. And the party [01:13:54] could win power for the first time in a state election next [01:13:58] month. What an irony, isn't it, that we talked about [01:14:02] reunification now in Germany for decades and we really want [01:14:06] to become one people again. And now we have a party that [01:14:11] really splits Germany and have memories of the wall are [01:14:14] everywhere in Berlin, even this cobblestone path that [01:14:18] marks exactly where the wall cut through the entire city. A [01:14:22] constant reminder of the scars of division as Germany faces [01:14:26] down a new era of political polarization. Marina von [01:14:30] Stackelberg, CBC News, Berlin. [01:16:35] For this outdoor adventure company, [01:16:37] business in the summer is usually brisk, [01:16:40] but it has slowed to a crawl. We've had no business [01:16:44] whatsoever this week, only [01:16:48] refunds, calling people to refund. [01:16:50] That's pretty much it with the deadly Bald Range wildfire [01:16:54] burning in BC Southern Interior. The air is thick with smoke, [01:16:57] Okanogan beaches that would normally be packed are bare and [01:17:01] almost no one is on the water. [01:17:04] We have a dozen kayaks and stand up paddle boards and a [01:17:08] tough pill to swallow if your company relies on tourism. It's [01:17:12] sad that you get to a point where where it's. That's how [01:17:16] you have to prepare yourself thinking that fires are a part [01:17:20] of the world. But it doesn't make it any easier on the day [01:17:24] when no one's renting bikes. [01:17:28] This local ice cream shop is feeling the pinch too. Business [01:17:31] has dropped at least 90% since the fire erupted. We've already [01:17:35] laid off a chunk of our staff. Like knowing that Summerland [01:17:39] isn't going to reopen right away. And we have entrepreneurs. [01:17:42] We don't have the big, big businesses that can really [01:17:45] hang on. So if this is a really important time for for our [01:17:49] small business community to be making money. Roughly 12, [01:17:52] 000 people on evacuation order have no timeline on when they [01:17:56] can go home. But with hot temperatures, [01:17:58] gusty winds and a chance of thunderstorms, [01:18:01] officials warn fires could intensify. [01:18:05] Evacuees like Christine Coletta are trying to find ways to pass [01:18:09] the time. These grapevines remind Coletta of her vineyard [01:18:13] inside Summerland she worries about the tourists she's losing [01:18:17] out on. About 35% of our total sales for the year come from [01:18:21] what we call the tasting room. If we can't get in and open the [01:18:25] tasting room and get our staff back in place, [01:18:28] we're going to miss seeing thousands of people from now [01:18:31] until the end of October. [01:18:34] For businesses inside and outside the evacuation zone, [01:18:37] they're taking it one day at a time, [01:18:39] hoping things get back to normal soon. And Julia, [01:18:42] some movement tonight on road closures in the area. That's [01:18:45] right. So Hwy. 97, which you can see behind me, [01:18:48] it runs through summer land and it has reopened. But traffic is [01:18:52] only allowed between the hours of 7:00 AM and 7:00 PM. And [01:18:55] drivers are not allowed to stop or exit the highway without a [01:18:59] temporary access pass. The regional district saying that [01:19:02] if drivers don't follow the rules, the highway could shut down [01:19:05] again. Julia Wong in Penticton, BC tonight. [01:19:12] At the Sikh temple in Penticton, volunteers cut and prepare [01:19:16] meals for evacuees. Since the Bald Range wildfire broke out [01:19:21] on Friday, they've been supplying food and [01:19:24] cooking hot meals, serving hundreds of evacuees [01:19:27] each day. So we start feeding some people. The one [01:19:31] desperately need essential items [01:19:35] because some of them, they had nothing with them, [01:19:37] not even shoes. Fresh fruits and vegetables are also [01:19:41] available for evacuees. They just come from local farms. [01:19:45] Fruit stands and some packing sheds and everybody willing to [01:19:49] donate more than we need the farm fresh food as satisfying [01:19:53] delight for summer land evacuee Barbara Dority. It's just [01:19:57] amazing that we have everything that's available that they've [01:20:01] taken from their farms and brought here for us. I mean, [01:20:04] how, how wonderful can that be? [01:20:08] Bethel Church in Penticton has also been helping, [01:20:11] supplying hundreds of food hampers to evacuees. [01:20:16] We have teams of people right now that have gone into the [01:20:20] community and they're just finding those folks that have [01:20:23] been displaced, that have maybe lost their [01:20:26] homes, that are have been evacuated, [01:20:28] that are living in RV's, living in parking lots, [01:20:31] in their cars. Sharon Larock and her husband have been [01:20:35] camping in their RV ever since they were evacuated from their [01:20:39] summer Land home. She says she's blown away at how the [01:20:42] people of Penticton have shown up to help. People drop by [01:20:46] every day, numerous times [01:20:47] every day, and they've given us bags of [01:20:50] fruit and, um, do you need any shampoo or [01:20:53] conditioner or deodorant or any kind of toiletry? [01:20:57] They have diapers, everything. The province says [01:21:01] they've freed up over 1000 hotel rooms across the Okanogan [01:21:05] to provide evacuees a place to stay. But with 12, [01:21:09] 000 people forced to evacuate and no timeline for when they [01:21:13] can return, many are still calling [01:21:16] Penticton's parking lots home. It's [01:21:19] not too bad, it gets nice cool at night so [01:21:22] we've been able to sleep. Lots of people sleeping in their car, [01:21:26] so we're very fortunate. [01:21:30] This moments of generosity, it's really, [01:21:33] really comforting. Adding a little comfort to evacuees [01:21:38] during moments of darkness and uncertainty. Tiffany Goodwin, [01:21:43] CBC News, Penticton. [01:21:47] So scrolling on social media and searching wildfire returns [01:21:49] millions of posts, some using AI to generate maps [01:21:53] indicating wildfires were happening all across Ontario, [01:21:56] when in reality there were no active wildfires in Toronto. [01:22:00] Other reels showing AI generated firefighters claiming [01:22:03] to be in Canada. [01:22:05] Hello Canadians, and some recently claiming [01:22:08] Allison is responsible for all wildfires in BC. In the absence [01:22:12] of verified official information, [01:22:15] people will often fill the gap and there's typically [01:22:18] speculation online. As soon as a wildfire emerges or or [01:22:22] wildfire season even begins, the conspiracy theories and the [01:22:26] misinformation and disinformation start start [01:22:29] increasing. And while RCMP has confirmed they are [01:22:32] investigating the cause of the board range fire, [01:22:36] they say this is typical. We've seen a number of human caused [01:22:39] fires. Human cause does not immediately indicate arson or [01:22:42] that it was intentionally set. Of course we've seen fires that [01:22:46] have been accidental, especially with some of the [01:22:48] conditions we've seen just like any other fire which we did a [01:22:52] suspicious until proven otherwise. To be clear, [01:22:55] 3 wildfires states that right now over 75% of wildfires this [01:22:58] year are determined or suspected to be caused by [01:23:02] lightning. And in a press conference on Tuesday, [01:23:05] they confirmed that in total, 4% of all wildfires in the last [01:23:09] 10 years in BC are believed to be intentionally set. But the [01:23:13] experts I spoke to say many AI generated images of flooding X [01:23:17] TikTok and Meta and making it difficult to find credible [01:23:20] information. Wildfire content lends itself to sensationalized [01:23:25] images and so any image forward platform is is going to be [01:23:28] really popular for this. I think the biggest thing to [01:23:31] lookout for is, does it distract away from [01:23:35] climate change? Sonia Suliman specializes in [01:23:38] researching misinformation and disinformation surrounding [01:23:41] extreme weather events. For the rise of AI generated a mess, [01:23:45] and disinformation around climate specifically is really [01:23:49] a huge problem in Canada. We've seen it's much easier to [01:23:52] circulate that can reach borders and in seconds. She [01:23:55] says some of those posts can include things like mislabeled [01:23:59] maps or text that talks about wildfire mismanagement. Their [01:24:03] direct disinformation narrative would be that [01:24:06] this is a deliberate act rather than one caused by natural [01:24:09] climate change. It changes the subject away from why are there [01:24:13] more fires in more places around the world that are [01:24:16] bigger and more frequent? It's because we have a hotter [01:24:20] and drier climate. So what's behind some of these posts when [01:24:23] it comes to disinformation meaning false information [01:24:27] shared on purpose? Michael Coop, Policy Co chair of Climate [01:24:30] Action Against Disinformation, says there's been a spike in [01:24:34] the last five years. Natural disaster [01:24:36] events have become a real hive for disinformation. The most [01:24:40] pernicious and dangerous parts of climate disinformation, [01:24:43] and disinformation in general, is that there's a network of [01:24:47] people who get paid to divide society on the most important [01:24:50] or most talked about issues. And the social media platforms [01:24:54] are are square one responsible for that entire system of [01:24:57] monetization. Vic 12 Rio is the executive director at What to [01:25:01] Fix, an organization that's been [01:25:03] tracking content monetization programs across social media [01:25:06] platforms. [01:25:07] In a situation like a wildfire, what you will have is a lot of [01:25:10] people turning to social media for minute to minute news, [01:25:14] and so you have an unusual amount of search for key terms [01:25:17] that are related to the wildfires. So we've seen quite [01:25:21] a bit of content that will sort of ride those keywords because [01:25:24] that's just a way to get views in times like this. And in [01:25:28] Canada, the experts we spoke to say [01:25:30] that DIS and misinformation can be more extreme due to Matters [01:25:34] response to Canada's Online News Act, which blocks [01:25:37] Asian users from seeing all new sites on Facebook and Instagram. [01:25:41] When journalism disappears, it's not [01:25:44] replaced by nothing. Something has to fill that void, right? [01:25:48] And right now, it's replaced by content that [01:25:50] serves a very different function. So influencer posts, [01:25:54] which carry no attribution and score far higher on emotional [01:25:57] intensity are are much more popular now. Take this post on [01:26:01] Facebook about the wildfire in Peachland, [01:26:03] BC last year. While the post says it's AI generated, [01:26:06] it's still got a lot of views. The BC Wildfire Service [01:26:09] specifically called out this image along with another AI [01:26:13] image, saying they do not accurately [01:26:15] represent the terrain, fire size or fire behaviour in [01:26:18] the area and that these types of posts can add to anxiety [01:26:21] that come with wildfires. The post appears to be published by [01:26:25] a digital creator on Instagram with 80, [01:26:27] 000 followers and on Facebook with 2 million followers. The [01:26:31] accounts feature multiple posts about wildfires and other [01:26:34] extreme weather events this year. We do unfortunately come [01:26:38] across quite a lot of those. There's very large communities [01:26:41] of individual. They've come to realize that they can generate [01:26:45] quite a bit [01:26:46] of revenue by running faceless accounts and automating much of [01:26:49] the process and really jumping from crisis to crisis. Now, [01:26:53] we searched the What to Fix Monetization archive and found [01:26:57] that the account owner of that AI generated wildfire post is a [01:27:00] monetized Facebook account. So two years ago, [01:27:03] based on the data that we have, we had two million accounts [01:27:07] registered to monetize on Facebook. Today we're looking [01:27:10] at 16 000, 000. So that's an 800% increase [01:27:13] in just two years. There are more players, [01:27:16] possibly less money to be made, but still, [01:27:18] if you're making $1000 a month in many of those places, [01:27:21] that actually goes a very long way and it's incentive enough. [01:27:25] We reached out to the account owner about the posts but did [01:27:29] not receive a response by our deadline. Rio says while [01:27:32] monetization programs like Meters do help content creators [01:27:35] generate income, they lack regulation when it [01:27:38] comes to who qualifies for the program. The whole AI slot [01:27:41] problem is very much a byproduct of those monetization [01:27:44] programs, and it's not just [01:27:46] better. Rios says X, TikTok, Snapchat and LinkedIn all have [01:27:50] their own content monetization programs. Solomon says without [01:27:53] more regulation on these platforms, [01:27:55] it could have real consequences. It can really misdirect public [01:27:59] response and undermine of official emergency [01:28:02] communications. We need policies to to strengthen [01:28:04] information integrity and certainly AI safety and that's [01:28:08] really the structural at the structural platform level and [01:28:11] that includes the economic models that these platforms are built on. [01:28:18] Check this out. This is a NASA ER 2A repurposed Cold War spy [01:28:20] craft, and it was just tracked flying [01:28:22] back and forth over Western Canada for six hours straight. [01:28:26] So why is a NASA spy plane flying over Canada? [01:28:29] It's up there because of these fire clouds, [01:28:31] a phenomenon we don't fully understand. I'll explain. [01:28:34] Canada is dealing with explosive wildfires like the [01:28:38] Bald Range Fire that erupted in size on August 7th. And NASA [01:28:41] sent this high altitude spy plane to track a terrifying [01:28:44] weather event born out of the flames [01:28:47] cloud called pyro cumulonimbus, or firecloud. Here's how these [01:28:50] firestorms work. When a wildfire gets big enough and [01:28:53] hot enough in a short amount of time, it triggers giant, [01:28:56] violent updrafts. the Super heated air and moisture act [01:29:00] like a vacuum, pulling winds and oxygen into [01:29:02] the base of the fire, giving it the fuel it needs [01:29:05] while punching smoke straight up into the sky. This creates A [01:29:08] literal thunderstorm, one that generates its own [01:29:11] downbursts, erratic lightning strikes, [01:29:13] and even fire tornadoes. It was officially added to the [01:29:16] International Cloud Atlas in 2017 as Cumulonimbus Flamm agenus, [01:29:20] and scientists have been trying to understand them ever since. [01:29:24] Data from the World Climate Research Program shows that [01:29:27] these storms act like chimneys. For a long time, [01:29:30] scientists thought only big volcanic eruptions or nuclear [01:29:33] blasts could force particles into the stratosphere. Now we [01:29:37] know these intense pyrocumulus can shoot plumes of black [01:29:40] carbon and aerosols up to 16 kilometers into the lower [01:29:43] stratosphere, where they stay trapped. And [01:29:45] climate change is making these fire cloud [01:29:48] producing mega fires occur more often and the most often in [01:29:51] Canada, according to the latest [01:29:53] research. And that's exactly why NASA is flying a spy plane [01:29:56] directly over the smoke at 60, 000 feet. It's a modified [01:29:59] Lockheed U2, nicknamed the Dragon Lady, [01:30:01] an aircraft used by the US military back in the pre [01:30:04] satellite era for exactly this purpose. Studying the ground [01:30:08] from incredibly high, the R2 sits safely in the [01:30:10] stratosphere looking straight down into the core of the storm. [01:30:14] It's measuring the exact height, temperature and thickness of [01:30:17] the plume in real time. [01:30:19] The goal is to figure out exactly how these firestorms [01:30:21] develop so we can forecast them, because understanding this fire [01:30:25] monster is the first step to surviving it. Johanna Wagstaff, [01:30:28] CBC News, Vancouver. [01:32:33] Ontario's opposition parties are demanding answers over [01:32:36] reports that the Progressive Conservative Party spied on [01:32:40] former provincial Liberal leader Bonnie Crombie, [01:32:42] and these allegations are first reported by the Trillium and [01:32:46] Pauli Corner. The party allegedly spent nearly 3000 in [01:32:49] donor and taxpayer dollars on resorts in Jamaica. In a [01:32:53] statement to CBC News, a party spokesperson confirmed [01:32:56] quote opposition research occurred in December of 2023. [01:32:59] The alleged surveillance took place six days after Crombie [01:33:03] won the Liberal leadership race. My next guest was one of the [01:33:07] reporters breaking that story. Ahmed El Bayoumi is the author [01:33:22] How did you, you know, get a tip and and how did you [01:33:26] find this out? So essentially on Monday, [01:33:28] my colleague Jack Cowan at the Trillium reported that $3000 [01:33:32] was spent by the PC Party in Ontario on hotels in Jamaica. [01:33:36] And a couple of days later, as journalists in this province [01:33:40] try to figure out what these hotels were used for. Myself [01:33:43] and my colleague Charlie Pinkerton at the Trillium, we both reported for the Trillium and for Polly Corner [01:33:50] that the PC Party sent an operative to Jamaica in order [01:33:54] to spy on, as is alleged by our sources, [01:33:56] the former then Liberal leader, Bonnie Crombie. Now keep in [01:34:00] mind, she was just elected Liberal [01:34:02] leader. It was six days after her win that she went to [01:34:05] Jamaica for a three day vacation. It is that. It is [01:34:08] then when we are told that the Conservatives sent an operative [01:34:12] to stay at the same resort that she was at to try to gather [01:34:21] information on a political opponent that not that might [01:34:25] not be necessarily pleasant or or or [01:34:34] reacted to the story today. Yeah. What's he saying? Well, [01:34:38] I asked the premier explicitly why he thought that taxpayer [01:34:41] money was it was OK for taxpayer money to be spent on [01:34:44] an operation like this. Keep in mind, [01:34:46] political parties in Ontario, they make their money from both [01:34:50] donors but from also a per vote subsidy that is paid by the [01:34:53] taxpayer. The Premier said he only found out when Polly [01:34:56] Corner and the Trillium asked questions yesterday and that he [01:35:00] was not aware that he does not approve of it [01:35:02] personally, but that we should ask [01:35:04] questions to the party. And as you said, [01:35:07] the party in a statement this evening confirmed to us that [01:35:10] they didn't indeed send someone to Jamaica on what they are [01:35:14] describing as an opposition research mission. [01:35:17] So the opposition, the Liberal Party, who were, [01:35:20] you know, I guess the subject of this [01:35:22] reconnaissance, what's the reaction there? Well, [01:35:25] opposition parties are describing this as creepy, [01:35:28] disgusting and completely inappropriate. Mart Styles, [01:35:31] the leader of the official Opposition NDP here, [01:35:34] she said yesterday that she thought that the buck stops [01:35:37] with the premier, that regardless of whether he [01:35:40] knew or whether it was, you know, a senior staffer, [01:35:42] a junior staffer, that the premier is ultimately [01:35:45] accountable for this. The leader of the Liberals, [01:35:48] they said that he doesn't believe. John Fraser said that [01:35:52] he doesn't believe that the premier is telling the truth, [01:35:55] that the premier ought to have known that someone from his [01:35:58] from his team was was sent to Jamaica to do this and that it [01:36:02] crosses a line. There is in their opinion, [01:36:05] a difference between a political operation when a [01:36:08] politician is actively doing their job and when a politician [01:36:11] is outside of the country on a vacation. Yeah. So that for [01:36:15] saying that he did not know about this, he's also, [01:36:18] I believe, saying [01:36:19] that this is no different in his mind than when reporters [01:36:23] follow him on trips to the US. So you've covered Queens Park [01:36:26] for, what, four years now? Yeah. Is it different? I, [01:36:30] I do think it is different. I think that journalists being [01:36:33] able to follow the premier on a trip, [01:36:36] whether he is a premier or a counselor at the time, that is, [01:36:39] you know, where he is doing government [01:36:42] business is very different from journalists, you know, [01:36:45] going after the premier on a vacation. Keep in mind that [01:36:49] this is a premier who who talks a lot about, you know, [01:36:52] how important his personal privacy and his family's [01:36:55] privacy is. The premier took issue years ago, [01:36:58] I believe two or three years ago when protester protesters [01:37:01] showed up to his house. He told them to, you know, [01:37:04] keep the politics at Queens Park. And so the premier is [01:37:07] ultimately now answering for why he thought that the OR why [01:37:10] his party thought that the standard here was somewhat [01:37:13] different For Bonnie Crombie [01:40:58] Montreal police are utilizing AI to help with its [01:41:00] investigations. The tech and the way it's being used could [01:41:03] change policing in the city moving forward. The SPVM has [01:41:06] made it very clear they're interested in it to this [01:41:09] technology. They're deploying this technology. A surveillance [01:41:13] camera similar to Flock in the United States is here. It's [01:41:16] called the Cloud Runner CRH 2 from Montreal based company [01:41:19] Genentech. It scans license plates but can also identify [01:41:22] the colour, make and model of vehicles. But [01:41:25] unlike Flock, the information can only be accessed by its operator. [01:41:29] The camera is one part of a larger software that uses AI to [01:41:33] detect and identify vehicles. But the company says privacy is [01:41:37] carefully monitored and that data can't be tampered with as [01:41:40] every interaction with it is logged. You should have an [01:41:44] expectation of reasonable privacy. However, as I said, [01:41:47] it's a trade off. If the threat of something bad happening is [01:41:52] high, as a community we need to say [01:41:54] what are we comfortable with giving up? In a statement, [01:41:57] the SPBM says that it's only using the cloud [01:42:00] and her camera for a specific investigation and that other [01:42:04] similar cameras could be added in the future. It is connected [01:42:08] to the wireless network, so the cellular network. And so [01:42:12] footage that it collects, just watching traffic, [01:42:15] watching whatever goes on outside is then sent to, [01:42:18] you know, a cloud service. And then [01:42:20] artificial intelligence is used to analyze those that that [01:42:24] footage. The SPM is also using another software called imotion [01:42:28] Roc. It's an American software from Rank One [01:42:31] Computing. It uses AI to track certain characteristics, [01:42:35] among other things. It's currently on 46 urban security [01:42:39] cameras and can even work on video collected by officers [01:42:43] with citizen consent or warrant. Rock's ability is to look up to [01:42:48] 8 different attributes at once. So the ability to go rapidly [01:42:52] and look at different images, all the images at normal speed [01:42:57] and analyze the footage so you can find something specific. [01:43:01] Though the software has real time biometric tracking [01:43:04] capabilities, VBM says it wouldn't use those [01:43:07] features. It says it would focus on elements detectives [01:43:10] already know. And we'll look for visual attributes like [01:43:14] clothing. An internal privacy impact assessment by the SPVM [01:43:17] obtained by CBC News acknowledges the technology [01:43:20] poses civil liberties risks. They mentioned that it could [01:43:23] put innocent third parties under investigation and the [01:43:26] risk of discrimination based on visible social characteristics. [01:43:30] This lawyer says the right to privacy is fundamental. [01:43:33] And if we're using AI to organize, to treat, to analyze, [01:43:39] make decisions or projections based on this data, [01:43:45] you, the individual will lose [01:43:47] control over is his privacy. At least in the public domain. The [01:43:51] city's public records show a $17, [01:43:53] 000 contract to obtain 4 Cloud Runner units over the [01:43:56] subscription of one year. CBC News reached out to the city [01:44:00] and asked if it had submitted a bid to obtain the Cloud Runner [01:44:04] cameras, and it said it didn't. Levy [01:44:06] says these technologies could be abused by law enforcement [01:44:10] and that's why it's important for cities to be as transparent [01:44:13] as possible. Every time [01:44:15] camera pops up in public use without any explanation for why [01:44:19] it's there, it's reasonable for members of [01:44:21] the public to ask questions, why is it being used, [01:44:24] Who is using it? What is it being used for? [01:44:27] How are my rights being protected? [01:44:29] Says policymakers have to catch up and set limitations on how [01:44:33] AI technology can be used in public. [01:44:38] RIGHTFUL OWNERS. ALI CHAISSON HAS THE STORY. >> Reporter: THOUSANDS OF [01:44:40] ALI CHAISSON HAS THE STORY. >> Reporter: THOUSANDS OF PIECES OF JEWELERY WERE STOLEN [01:44:42] >> Reporter: THOUSANDS OF PIECES OF JEWELERY WERE STOLEN OVER THE LAST YEAR IN AN ALLEGED [01:44:45] PIECES OF JEWELERY WERE STOLEN OVER THE LAST YEAR IN AN ALLEGED THEFT RING THAT TARGETED CONDOS. [01:44:48] OVER THE LAST YEAR IN AN ALLEGED THEFT RING THAT TARGETED CONDOS. BRACELETS, EARRINGS, NECKLACES, [01:44:50] THEFT RING THAT TARGETED CONDOS. BRACELETS, EARRINGS, NECKLACES, WATCHES, OVER 2,500 SUSPECTED [01:44:53] BRACELETS, EARRINGS, NECKLACES, WATCHES, OVER 2,500 SUSPECTED STOLEN ITEMS WORTH OVER A [01:44:56] WATCHES, OVER 2,500 SUSPECTED STOLEN ITEMS WORTH OVER A MILLION DOLLARS. STOLEN ITEMS WORTH OVER A MILLION DOLLARS. PROJECT COMPASS WAS LAUNCHED IN [01:44:59] MILLION DOLLARS. PROJECT COMPASS WAS LAUNCHED IN PLAY 2025 WHEN PEOPLE IN CONDOS PROJECT COMPASS WAS LAUNCHED IN PLAY 2025 WHEN PEOPLE IN CONDOS STARTED TO REPORT THEIR JEWELERY [01:45:03] PLAY 2025 WHEN PEOPLE IN CONDOS STARTED TO REPORT THEIR JEWELERY GOING MISSING. STARTED TO REPORT THEIR JEWELERY GOING MISSING. THE INVESTIGATION EXPANDED FROM [01:45:07] GOING MISSING. THE INVESTIGATION EXPANDED FROM THERE. THE INVESTIGATION EXPANDED FROM THERE. >> INVESTIGATORS CONDUCTED A [01:45:10] THERE. >> INVESTIGATORS CONDUCTED A DETAILED REVIEW OF SURVEILLANCE >> INVESTIGATORS CONDUCTED A DETAILED REVIEW OF SURVEILLANCE FOOTAGE AND QUICKLY IDENTIFIED A [01:45:14] DETAILED REVIEW OF SURVEILLANCE FOOTAGE AND QUICKLY IDENTIFIED A PATTERN. FOOTAGE AND QUICKLY IDENTIFIED A PATTERN. FURTHER INVESTIGATIVE WORK [01:45:17] PATTERN. FURTHER INVESTIGATIVE WORK IDENTIFIED ADDITIONAL SUSPECTS FURTHER INVESTIGATIVE WORK IDENTIFIED ADDITIONAL SUSPECTS AND ASSOCIATES REVEALING A [01:45:21] IDENTIFIED ADDITIONAL SUSPECTS AND ASSOCIATES REVEALING A NETWORK OF OFFENDERS RESPONSIBLE AND ASSOCIATES REVEALING A NETWORK OF OFFENDERS RESPONSIBLE FOR THESE OFFENCES. [01:45:25] NETWORK OF OFFENDERS RESPONSIBLE FOR THESE OFFENCES. NOT JUST IN TORONTO BUT ACROSS FOR THESE OFFENCES. NOT JUST IN TORONTO BUT ACROSS THE GREATER TORONTO AREA. [01:45:29] NOT JUST IN TORONTO BUT ACROSS THE GREATER TORONTO AREA. >> Reporter: POLICE ARRESTED THE GREATER TORONTO AREA. >> Reporter: POLICE ARRESTED THREE MEN WHO NOW FACE 150 [01:45:33] >> Reporter: POLICE ARRESTED THREE MEN WHO NOW FACE 150 CHARGES BETWEEN THEM, INCLUDING THREE MEN WHO NOW FACE 150 CHARGES BETWEEN THEM, INCLUDING BREAK AND ENTER AND THE USE OF [01:45:37] CHARGES BETWEEN THEM, INCLUDING BREAK AND ENTER AND THE USE OF DISGUISES. BREAK AND ENTER AND THE USE OF DISGUISES. POLICE ALLEGE THEY POSED AS [01:45:40] DISGUISES. POLICE ALLEGE THEY POSED AS MAINTENANCE WORKERS TO GAIN POLICE ALLEGE THEY POSED AS MAINTENANCE WORKERS TO GAIN ACCESS TO CONDOS. [01:45:44] MAINTENANCE WORKERS TO GAIN ACCESS TO CONDOS. ALLEGEDLY TAKING THE STOLEN ACCESS TO CONDOS. ALLEGEDLY TAKING THE STOLEN JEWELERY TO A PAWN SHOP [01:45:47] ALLEGEDLY TAKING THE STOLEN JEWELERY TO A PAWN SHOP DOWNTOWN. JEWELERY TO A PAWN SHOP DOWNTOWN. THE PAWN SHOP OWNER IS NOT AMONG [01:45:51] DOWNTOWN. THE PAWN SHOP OWNER IS NOT AMONG THE THREE SUSPECTS WHO HAVE BEEN THE PAWN SHOP OWNER IS NOT AMONG THE THREE SUSPECTS WHO HAVE BEEN ARRESTED BUT POLICE SAY THAT [01:45:55] THE THREE SUSPECTS WHO HAVE BEEN ARRESTED BUT POLICE SAY THAT COULD CHANGE. ARRESTED BUT POLICE SAY THAT COULD CHANGE. IF IT'S FOUND THAT HE KNEW THE [01:45:58] COULD CHANGE. IF IT'S FOUND THAT HE KNEW THE ITEMS WERE STOLEN OR DIDN'T DO IF IT'S FOUND THAT HE KNEW THE ITEMS WERE STOLEN OR DIDN'T DO THE DUE DILIGENCE TO ENSURE THAT [01:46:02] ITEMS WERE STOLEN OR DIDN'T DO THE DUE DILIGENCE TO ENSURE THAT THEY WEREN'T. THE DUE DILIGENCE TO ENSURE THAT THEY WEREN'T. >> HE'S PART OF THE [01:46:06] THEY WEREN'T. >> HE'S PART OF THE INVESTIGATION, AND I ANTICIPATE >> HE'S PART OF THE INVESTIGATION, AND I ANTICIPATE THAT HE MAY BE FACING CHARGES IN [01:46:10] INVESTIGATION, AND I ANTICIPATE THAT HE MAY BE FACING CHARGES IN THE NEAR FUTURE. THAT HE MAY BE FACING CHARGES IN THE NEAR FUTURE. >> Reporter: THE SHOP WAS [01:46:13] THE NEAR FUTURE. >> Reporter: THE SHOP WAS CLOSED WHEN WE VISITED AND NOW >> Reporter: THE SHOP WAS CLOSED WHEN WE VISITED AND NOW THE WORK BEGINS TO REUNITE [01:46:17] CLOSED WHEN WE VISITED AND NOW THE WORK BEGINS TO REUNITE PEOPLE WITH THEIR STOLEN THE WORK BEGINS TO REUNITE PEOPLE WITH THEIR STOLEN JEWELERY. [01:46:21] It's a common sight on summer nights, [01:46:23] kids and teens racing around on E scooters hitting 40 to 60 [01:46:27] kilometers or more. This 12 year old boy was left with a [01:46:31] fractured skull after crashing without a helmet. There was a [01:46:35] possibility he would not make it. Crystal Dunkley's son Sean [01:46:39] was in a coma for a week last summer and spent more than a [01:46:43] month in hospital. He eventually made a full recovery [01:46:47] and now reminds others to wear a helmet. He has tried to turn [01:46:51] a tragedy. This is something [01:46:55] positive. [01:46:57] Canadian doctors say more kids are getting seriously injured, [01:47:01] even dying, in E scooter accidents. A new [01:47:04] survey of pediatricians suggests there were 10 deaths, [01:47:08] 12 ICU admissions and 26 hospitalizations lasting more [01:47:12] than two days, all linked to E scooter crashes [01:47:15] in just one year. These devices are often marketed as toys, [01:47:19] and I will tell you they're anything but toys. [01:47:24] Sick Kids in Toronto is among the hospitals seeing a spike in [01:47:27] injuries from two dozen cases in 2023 to more than 100 last [01:47:31] year. And this year we're likely on target for more than [01:47:34] that. So we're just seeing a complete exponential rise in [01:47:38] the number of kids we're seeing in any injury. And so it [01:47:41] follows that more severe injuries will also increase [01:47:45] that kind of this a similar rate. E scooters are illegal [01:47:48] for most Canadians under 16, but we're not seeing [01:47:51] enforcement of age. We're not seeing enforcement [01:47:54] of double riding. Helmet wear is not enforced. [01:48:00] The 18 year old son of former Canadian Prime Minister Justin [01:48:04] Trudeau skipped any head protection for a back to school [01:48:07] E scooter ad this week. I would say this is the Rolls Royce of [01:48:11] scooters. Prompting his mom to ask where's your helmet? [01:48:15] Xavier Trudeau quickly posted an apology, [01:48:18] saying safety is the most important thing. With a [01:48:21] patchwork of local bylaws across much of the country, [01:48:25] doctors worry more young riders will remain at risk. Lauren [01:48:28] Pelley, CBC News, Toronto. [01:48:32] COUNTRY IT'S THE MOST DRAMATIC SPIKE IT'S EVER SEEN. [01:48:37] SPIKE IT'S EVER SEEN. >> WE ARE RECEIVING A CRISIS >> WE ARE RECEIVING A CRISIS TEXT EVERY 90 SECONDS. [01:48:41] TEXT EVERY 90 SECONDS. >> Reporter: THE KIDS' HELP >> Reporter: THE KIDS' HELP PHONE HAS SEEN A GRADUAL [01:48:45] PHONE HAS SEEN A GRADUAL INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE USING THE HELP LINE [01:48:48] PEOPLE USING THE HELP LINE SINCE THE PANDEMIC BUT NOTHING SINCE THE PANDEMIC BUT NOTHING LIKE THIS YEAR. [01:48:52] LIKE THIS YEAR. >> IT'S ALWAYS STRESSING WHEN A >> IT'S ALWAYS STRESSING WHEN A YOUNG PEOPLE REACHES OUT AND [01:48:55] YOUNG PEOPLE REACHES OUT AND TALK ABOUT THE FACT THAT THEY TALK ABOUT THE FACT THAT THEY ARE THINKING ABOUT AND HAVE [01:48:59] ARE THINKING ABOUT AND HAVE THOUGHTS OF SUICIDE. THOUGHTS OF SUICIDE. WE HAVE DEFINITELY SEEN AN [01:49:02] WE HAVE DEFINITELY SEEN AN INCREASE IN YOUNGER PEOPLE, INCREASE IN YOUNGER PEOPLE, YOUNGER THAN THE AGE OF 12, [01:49:06] YOUNGER THAN THE AGE OF 12, TELLING US THAT THEY ARE [01:49:10] TELLING US THAT THEY ARE THINKING ABOUT SUICIDE OR [01:49:13] THINKING ABOUT SUICIDE OR ENDING THEIR LIFE. ENDING THEIR LIFE. WE NEED TO BE THERE TO SUPPORT WE NEED TO BE THERE TO SUPPORT THEM. [01:49:17] THEM. >> Reporter: THE NONPROFIT IS >> Reporter: THE NONPROFIT IS SEEING A 24% INCREASE IN CALLS [01:49:20] SEEING A 24% INCREASE IN CALLS ACROSS THE COUNTRY ESPECIALLY ACROSS THE COUNTRY ESPECIALLY AT NIGHT. [01:49:23] AT NIGHT. WHILE NUMBERS IN NUNAVUT REMAIN [01:49:29] WHILE NUMBERS IN NUNAVUT REMAIN BELOW THE NATIONAL AVERAGE BELOW THE NATIONAL AVERAGE YUKON TOPS THE LIST WITH AN [01:49:33] YUKON TOPS THE LIST WITH AN ALARMING 63% INCREASE. [01:49:36] ALARMING 63% INCREASE. WITH STUDENTS RETURNING TO [01:49:41] WITH STUDENTS RETURNING TO SCHOOL NEXT MONTH THE CALLS ARE SCHOOL NEXT MONTH THE CALLS ARE ABOUT A RANGE OF COMPLEX [01:49:44] ABOUT A RANGE OF COMPLEX ISSUES. ISSUES. >> WHETHER IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT >> WHETHER IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT SCHOOL BUT WONDERING ABOUT [01:49:48] SCHOOL BUT WONDERING ABOUT THEIR FUTURE. THEIR FUTURE. I'M GOING TO SCHOOL, IS A.I. [01:49:52] I'M GOING TO SCHOOL, IS A.I. GOING TO TAKEAWAY MY JOBS, OR [01:49:54] GOING TO TAKEAWAY MY JOBS, OR I'M GRADUATING AND WHAT DO I [01:50:01] I'M GRADUATING AND WHAT DO I DO. DO. THERE'S A CONCERN ABOUT CLIMATE [01:50:04] THERE'S A CONCERN ABOUT CLIMATE CHANGE AND FLOODING AND JUST [01:50:05] CHANGE AND FLOODING AND JUST THE IMPACTS OF SOCIAL MEDIA, [01:50:08] THE IMPACTS OF SOCIAL MEDIA, THE STRESS THAT HAVING DEVICES [01:50:10] THE STRESS THAT HAVING DEVICES HAS AFFECTED YOUNG PEOPLE. [01:50:13] HAS AFFECTED YOUNG PEOPLE. >> THERE'S A DICHOTOMY IN THIS. [01:50:20] >> THERE'S A DICHOTOMY IN THIS. THE KIDS' HELP PHONE IS BEING [01:50:24] THE KIDS' HELP PHONE IS BEING UTILIZED IN THE RIGHT CAPACITY, UTILIZED IN THE RIGHT CAPACITY, RIGHT? RIGHT? THIS MEANS THAT KIDS ARE AWARE [01:50:27] THIS MEANS THAT KIDS ARE AWARE THAT THERE IS A RESOURCE OUT THAT THERE IS A RESOURCE OUT THERE THAT CAN SUPPORT THEM. [01:50:31] THERE THAT CAN SUPPORT THEM. >> Reporter: SHE SAYS SHE HAS A [01:50:33] >> Reporter: SHE SAYS SHE HAS A MESSAGE FOR YOUNG PEOPLE MESSAGE FOR YOUNG PEOPLE STRUGGLING WITH MENTAL HEALTH [01:50:36] STRUGGLING WITH MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES AND WONDERING IF THEY ISSUES AND WONDERING IF THEY NEED HELP. [01:50:40] NEED HELP. >> MY MESSAGE IS IT'S OKAY FOR [01:50:43] >> MY MESSAGE IS IT'S OKAY FOR THEM TO BE SEEN, IT'S OKAY FOR [01:50:49] THEM TO BE SEEN, IT'S OKAY FOR THEM TO LAND SAFELY SOMEWHERE THEM TO LAND SAFELY SOMEWHERE WHERE THEY CAN TRUST SOMEONE [01:50:52] WHERE THEY CAN TRUST SOMEONE WITH THEIR STORIES WITH. WITH THEIR STORIES WITH. IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THEM TO GET [01:50:55] IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THEM TO GET THAT SUPPORT AND BE COMFORTABLE [01:50:58] THAT SUPPORT AND BE COMFORTABLE AND HAVE A MENTOR AND HAVE A AND HAVE A MENTOR AND HAVE A RELATIONSHIP THAT THEY FEEL [01:51:02] RELATIONSHIP THAT THEY FEEL GOOD TO BE AROUND. [01:51:03] GOOD TO BE AROUND. >> Reporter: SHE HOPES PARENTS >> Reporter: SHE HOPES PARENTS [01:53:08] This scene outside Calgary Saddledome, [01:53:10] a bit of a summer trend. Thousands of fans left waiting [01:53:14] for hours for a Neo and Akon concert that started two hours [01:53:17] late. You couldn't even get to your seats. They weren't [01:53:20] letting people. Everyone's just sitting in the concourse. [01:53:26] A brief apology from the stage, but no compensation. Amandeep [01:53:30] Walia says between 2:00 tickets, extending a babysitter and food, [01:53:34] he spent around $700.00 for the experience. We should have got [01:53:38] a 30% rebate or you know, a 40% credit towards the next [01:53:42] show from Ticketmaster in New York City, [01:53:45] a different artist. But another delay when a Jay-Z show started [01:53:49] 4 hours late came about 12/12/15. But it was it was it [01:53:53] was definitely a show to remember. [01:53:57] Risers blamed non ticket holders who stormed the [01:54:00] entrances, creating security issues. 10, [01:54:02] 000 people outside. I don't wanna stop using. People get [01:54:06] trampled, so I know [01:54:09] convenience. Experts say ticket holders don't have many rights, [01:54:13] even when shows run hours behind. Most concert ticket [01:54:16] contracts are written to give promoters considerable [01:54:20] flexibility if schedules change. But consumer advocates say [01:54:24] concert promoters should be transparent with ticket holders [01:54:28] about any schedule changes. It might be worthwhile trying to [01:54:32] legislate for some sort of rights similar to when you have [01:54:36] a flight and if your flight is delayed by two or three hours, [01:54:40] you have the right to a refund. Live Nation Canada says it [01:54:44] understands delays can be frustrating but adds live [01:54:47] events are complex and involve many moving parts and despite [01:54:50] extensive planning, unforeseen circumstances can [01:54:53] sometimes arise. Frustrate me the most was if they were to [01:54:57] start on time, we would have got that full [01:55:00] experience [01:55:02] and experience Walia and his wife had been looking forward [01:55:06] to for months. Ina Sidhu, CBC News, Calgary. [02:00:30] Canada U.S. Trade Minister Dominic LeBlanc met with U.S. [02:00:32] Trade Representative Jameson Greer in Washington as pressure [02:00:36] to get a new trade deal ratchets up even higher. [02:00:41] He rejected any proposals by the US [02:00:44] about that. LeBlanc keeping radio silence on a possible [02:00:48] deadlock despite the looming deadline. New potentially [02:00:52] devastating 50% US tariffs on a wide range of Canadian goods [02:00:56] are just days from snapping into place. But at least one [02:01:00] premier made it clear he doesn't want Ottawa to blink [02:01:03] first. Evan Dyer joins us now from Ottawa. Evan, [02:01:07] have we seen any signs of progress in these talks? [02:01:10] Not really. Crystal, the Canadians in the US trade [02:01:14] representative, [02:01:15] Famous and Greer met for just under 2 hours this afternoon [02:01:18] and he emerged with this message. [02:01:20] We had good discussions today. We were cordial. They were [02:01:24] detailed, the president, the Prime Minister, [02:01:26] obviously they'll be given options and discussions, [02:01:29] but I don't think there's anything to report right now. [02:01:32] Is there a chance that there won't be? [02:01:34] So it comes after we heard earlier this week that Ottawa [02:01:38] rejected a proposal from Washington that lowered tariffs, [02:01:41] but apparently not by enough. We did, however, [02:01:44] hear from some premiers today. Yes, [02:01:46] we heard from both Premier Ford of Ontario and Premier [02:01:49] Frechette of Quebec stating pretty clearly [02:01:51] that they want federal negotiators to hold the line. [02:01:54] In the case of Frechette, we heard that supply management [02:01:57] is a non negotiable for Quebec and that message has been [02:01:59] communicated to Ottawa. And she also seemed to be looking past [02:02:02] next Wednesday to a future where these threatened new [02:02:05] tariffs are already in place and seeking assurances that the [02:02:08] federal government would offer support to affected businesses [02:02:11] and workers. And we saw federal finance ministers say that yes, [02:02:14] the federal government will be there. He made those comments [02:02:17] in Saguenay, Quebec, which is a region that's [02:02:19] particularly vulnerable to tariffs because of its aluminum [02:02:23] and forestry industries. We expect Dominic LeBlanc to brief [02:02:26] his provincial counterparts on Friday. As for Ford, [02:02:29] he suggested he'll hold the line on Ontario's boycott of US [02:02:33] alcohol, saying he'll drop it only as [02:02:35] part of a fair deal. [02:02:37] I do not, I'm gonna emphasize, use alcohol as a bargaining [02:02:40] chip during the negotiations. If we get a fair deal that will [02:02:44] protect our steel sector, auto sector, [02:02:46] our forestry sector, agriculture sector, [02:02:49] manufacturing sector, then we'd be more than happy to [02:02:52] bring booze back on the shelves only if we have a deal that's [02:02:56] going to protect those sectors. So Ford added that pressure on [02:03:00] the US was important, in his words. Kinda negotiates [02:03:03] through strength, not weakness. And he's been [02:03:05] very clear that he opposes any situation [02:03:08] where the US keeps its tariffs on Canadian autos and Canadian [02:03:12] carrier tariffs come off. Alright. That's Evan Dyer in [02:03:15] Ottawa. Thanks so much. Thanks. [02:03:19] They give us just a sliver more of the story of what happened [02:03:23] on February 10th in the tiny, tight knit mountain town of [02:03:26] Tumblr Ridge. [02:03:27] A timeline of how police found the bodies of the 8 victims and [02:03:31] of the shooter, 18 year old Jesse Van [02:03:34] Rootselaar. The documents are heavily redacted. Strategic [02:03:38] communication is happening where [02:03:41] it is an RCMP choice, not a necessity or legal [02:03:45] requirement to withhold a lot of the information right now, [02:03:50] and that should be concerning to the public [02:03:55] most concerned about the details of the firearms used. [02:04:00] This is a big issue because there are concerns that have [02:04:05] been raised about whether police action or inaction might [02:04:10] have [02:04:12] interfered with the shooters ability to follow through with [02:04:16] the act at the school. [02:04:18] We do have more details about the 911 calls that poured in [02:04:22] that morning. First, a call about an SUV driving [02:04:24] erratically away from the shooter's house, [02:04:27] then multiple calls of shots fired inside the school. [02:04:31] The documents give a timeline of officers arriving to the [02:04:34] scene, hearing gunshots, going into the school, [02:04:37] finding victims and ultimately the shooter dead with [02:04:40] self-inflicted gunshot wounds. The documents say police had to [02:04:43] hold while being shot at. [02:04:46] They also mentioned the shooter went by multiple different last [02:04:49] names and that some police officers thought there may have [02:04:52] been 2 shooters for a time. But much is still uncertain as many [02:04:55] pages are blacked out entirely. British Columbia has announced [02:04:58] there will be a coroners inquest into the shootings, [02:05:01] will examine issues like the shooters mental health and [02:05:04] access to weapons, as well as the role artificial [02:05:06] intelligence may have played in this case. And Michelle, [02:05:09] let's talk a little bit about some of the details that we [02:05:12] don't know yet. [02:05:14] There's a lot that the section about the shooter social media [02:05:17] accounts is redacted entirely. And while the documents show a [02:05:21] police response timeline, all the timestamps are redacted. [02:05:24] So we don't know details like how long passed between the [02:05:27] police getting to the school and actually getting to the [02:05:30] shooter. Michelle Allen in Vancouver, thank you. [02:05:36] FOR MONTHS. >>> ALL RIGHT. >>> ALL RIGHT. TURNING TO THE U.K. [02:05:39] TURNING TO THE U.K. AFTER WEEKS OF SPECTACLE AND [02:05:43] AFTER WEEKS OF SPECTACLE AND MOCKERY, REFORM U.K. LEADER [02:05:46] MOCKERY, REFORM U.K. LEADER NIGEL REGAINED HIS SEAT IN [02:05:48] NIGEL REGAINED HIS SEAT IN PARLIAMENT AFTER DEFEATING HIS [02:05:52] PARLIAMENT AFTER DEFEATING HIS COMEDIC OPPONENT. [02:05:54] COMEDIC OPPONENT. >> THE VERDICT IS IN AND IT'S AN [02:06:00] >> THE VERDICT IS IN AND IT'S AN OVERWHELMING WIN WITH MORE OVERWHELMING WIN WITH MORE VOTES. VOTES. [Cheering] [02:06:04] [Cheering] >> HE ADDRESSED HIS SUPPORTERS [02:06:07] >> HE ADDRESSED HIS SUPPORTERS AFTER WINNING THAT BY-ELECTION. [02:06:11] AFTER WINNING THAT BY-ELECTION. COUNT BIN FACE WAS THE MAIN [02:06:16] COUNT BIN FACE WAS THE MAIN COMPETITION. [02:06:17] COMPETITION. FARAGE QUIT HIS SEAT LAST MONTH [02:06:22] FARAGE QUIT HIS SEAT LAST MONTH OVER AN INVESTIGATION ON WHETHER [02:06:25] OVER AN INVESTIGATION ON WHETHER HE SHOULD ACCEPT A MULTI-MILLION [02:06:29] HE SHOULD ACCEPT A MULTI-MILLION DOLLAR GIFT. DOLLAR GIFT. THAT INVESTIGATION WAS RE-OPENED [02:06:32] THAT INVESTIGATION WAS RE-OPENED HOURS AFTER HIS WIN. HOURS AFTER HIS WIN. JULIA CHAPMAN IS FOLLOWING ALL [02:06:36] JULIA CHAPMAN IS FOLLOWING ALL OF THIS IN LONDON FOR US. [02:06:38] OF THIS IN LONDON FOR US. IT WAS PREDICTED THAT FARAGE [02:06:41] IT WAS PREDICTED THAT FARAGE WOULD WIN. WOULD WIN. HOW DID THE RESULTS SHAPE UP? [02:06:44] HOW DID THE RESULTS SHAPE UP? >> IT'S NOT A SURPRISE THAT >> IT'S NOT A SURPRISE THAT FARAGE HAS WON THE SEAT AGAIN. [02:06:48] FARAGE HAS WON THE SEAT AGAIN. HE IS PRETTY POPULAR IN EASTERN HE IS PRETTY POPULAR IN EASTERN ENGLAND. [02:06:52] ENGLAND. NONE OF THE OTHER MAIN POLITICAL [02:06:55] NONE OF THE OTHER MAIN POLITICAL PARTIES WERE RUNNING IN THIS PARTIES WERE RUNNING IN THIS ELECTION. [02:06:59] ELECTION. THEY BOYCOTTED THE VOTE CALLING THEY BOYCOTTED THE VOTE CALLING IT A STUNT. [02:07:02] IT A STUNT. THE NUMBERS WERE INTERESTING. [02:07:04] THE NUMBERS WERE INTERESTING. IT HAD A 44% TURNOUT. [02:07:07] IT HAD A 44% TURNOUT. WHICH IS HIGH FOR A BY-ELECTION. [02:07:10] WHICH IS HIGH FOR A BY-ELECTION. FARAGE WON BY 53% OF THE VOTE. [02:07:13] FARAGE WON BY 53% OF THE VOTE. WHICH WAS LESS THAN HE WAS WHICH WAS LESS THAN HE WAS EXPECTED TO GET. [02:07:17] EXPECTED TO GET. HIS MAIN RIVAL WAS THIS COMEDY [02:07:22] HIS MAIN RIVAL WAS THIS COMEDY CANDIDATE, COUNT BIN FACE. CANDIDATE, COUNT BIN FACE. HE WON MORE OF THE SHARE OF THE [02:07:26] HE WON MORE OF THE SHARE OF THE VOTE THAN HE WAS EXPECTED TO. VOTE THAN HE WAS EXPECTED TO. JUST UNDER 27%. [02:07:29] JUST UNDER 27%. HE WAS RUNNING ON THE PLATFORM [02:07:33] HE WAS RUNNING ON THE PLATFORM TO MAKE ARCADE GAMES FAIRER AND [02:07:40] TO MAKE ARCADE GAMES FAIRER AND ICE-CREAM CONES CHEAPER. [02:07:45] ICE-CREAM CONES CHEAPER. >> IF THEY CHOOSE NOT TO STAND, [02:07:47] >> IF THEY CHOOSE NOT TO STAND, SOMEBODY HAS TO STAND UP AND BE SOMEBODY HAS TO STAND UP AND BE THE OPPOSITION. [02:07:51] THE OPPOSITION. SO, YOU KNOW, WAS MY HUMBLE DUTY [02:07:54] SO, YOU KNOW, WAS MY HUMBLE DUTY TO ACTUALLY BE HIS MAJESTY'S TO ACTUALLY BE HIS MAJESTY'S OFFICIAL OPPOSITION. [02:07:58] OFFICIAL OPPOSITION. I HAVE TAKEN THAT WITH GREAT I HAVE TAKEN THAT WITH GREAT HONOUR. HONOUR. >> WHEN THE RESULTS WERE [02:08:02] >> WHEN THE RESULTS WERE ANNOUNCED EARLIER THIS MORNING, [02:08:03] ANNOUNCED EARLIER THIS MORNING, THE WINNER WAS NOWHERE TO BE [02:08:07] THE WINNER WAS NOWHERE TO BE SEEN. SEEN. NIGEL FARAGE DIDN'T ATTEND THE [02:08:10] NIGEL FARAGE DIDN'T ATTEND THE COUNT OR THE ANNOUNCEMENT. [02:08:12] COUNT OR THE ANNOUNCEMENT. HE SAID HE WAS WARNED OF A [02:08:15] HE SAID HE WAS WARNED OF A THREAT TO DISRUPT THIS EVENT AND THREAT TO DISRUPT THIS EVENT AND HUMILIATE HIM. [02:08:19] HUMILIATE HIM. THAT WARNING HAD COME FROM THE THAT WARNING HAD COME FROM THE POLICE. POLICE. THE LOCAL FORCE HAS DENIED THAT. [02:08:23] THE LOCAL FORCE HAS DENIED THAT. BUT INSTEAD, BREAKING WITH BUT INSTEAD, BREAKING WITH TRADITION, FARAGE DECIDED TO [02:08:25] TRADITION, FARAGE DECIDED TO CELEBRATE HIS WIN WITH HIS [02:08:27] CELEBRATE HIS WIN WITH HIS SUPPORTERS A THE A DIFFERENT SUPPORTERS A THE A DIFFERENT EVENT. [02:08:31] EVENT. >> JULIA, FOR OUR CANADIAN [02:08:34] >> JULIA, FOR OUR CANADIAN VIEWERS. VIEWERS. NIGEL FARAGE WAS ALREADY THE MP. [02:08:37] NIGEL FARAGE WAS ALREADY THE MP. WHY DID HE GO TO THE TROUBLE OF WHY DID HE GO TO THE TROUBLE OF LAUNCHING ANOTHER BY-ELECTION [02:08:40] LAUNCHING ANOTHER BY-ELECTION AND THE COST FOR HIS VOTERS? AND THE COST FOR HIS VOTERS? >> Reporter: IT'S A QUESTION [02:08:44] >> Reporter: IT'S A QUESTION THAT A LOT OF HIS RIVALS ARE [02:08:49] THAT A LOT OF HIS RIVALS ARE ASKING. ASKING. CALLING THIS A VANITY PROJECT. [02:08:51] CALLING THIS A VANITY PROJECT. THE REASON HE TRIGGERED THIS [02:08:54] THE REASON HE TRIGGERED THIS BY-ELECTION PROJECT IS THERE WAS BY-ELECTION PROJECT IS THERE WAS A LOT OF SCRUTINY OF HIS [02:08:58] A LOT OF SCRUTINY OF HIS FINANCES. FINANCES. HE WAS BEING INVESTIGATED FOR A [02:09:02] HE WAS BEING INVESTIGATED FOR A DONATION HE RECEIVED OF NEARLY 5 [02:09:06] DONATION HE RECEIVED OF NEARLY 5 MILLION POUNDS. [02:09:09] MILLION POUNDS. HE DIDN'T DECLARE THAT. HE DIDN'T DECLARE THAT. HE SAYS HE DIDN'T NEED TO AND HE [02:09:13] HE SAYS HE DIDN'T NEED TO AND HE CALLED THIS BY-ELECTION A CALLED THIS BY-ELECTION A REFERENDUM ON THAT CHOICE SAYING [02:09:16] REFERENDUM ON THAT CHOICE SAYING IT PROVES THAT THE VOTERS DON'T IT PROVES THAT THE VOTERS DON'T CARE. [02:09:20] CARE. HERE IS WHAT HE SAID EARLIER. HERE IS WHAT HE SAID EARLIER. >> I CALLED THIS BY-ELECTION [02:09:23] >> I CALLED THIS BY-ELECTION BECAUSE I WANTED THE PEOPLE -- [02:09:26] BECAUSE I WANTED THE PEOPLE -- THE VOTERS TO BE MY JUDGE, NOT [02:09:31] THE VOTERS TO BE MY JUDGE, NOT THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA IN BRITAIN. [02:09:37] THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA IN BRITAIN. AND THE POLITICAL ESTABLISHMENT [02:09:41] AND THE POLITICAL ESTABLISHMENT WHO PAINTED US OUT TO BE [02:09:43] WHO PAINTED US OUT TO BE CRIMINALS AND BAD PEOPLE EVERY [02:09:46] CRIMINALS AND BAD PEOPLE EVERY DAY. [02:09:47] DAY. SO I ASK THE VOTERS OF TO BE MY [02:09:52] SO I ASK THE VOTERS OF TO BE MY JEWELLERY. JEWELLERY. >> THE PROBLEMS DON'T GO AWAY [02:09:55] >> THE PROBLEMS DON'T GO AWAY FOR THE RIGHT WING U.K. PARTY [02:09:58] FOR THE RIGHT WING U.K. PARTY WHICH IS FLAGGING IN THE POLLS WHICH IS FLAGGING IN THE POLLS WHO HAVE BEEN LEADING [02:10:02] WHO HAVE BEEN LEADING NATIONALLY. NATIONALLY. AS OF THIS MORNING, NOW THAT [02:10:04] AS OF THIS MORNING, NOW THAT FARAGE IS AN MP AGAIN, THEY ARE [02:10:06] FARAGE IS AN MP AGAIN, THEY ARE RE-OPENING THAT INVESTIGATION [02:10:10] RE-OPENING THAT INVESTIGATION INTO HIS FINANCES. INTO HIS FINANCES. >> THAT IS BACK TO STATUS QUO IT [02:10:13] >> THAT IS BACK TO STATUS QUO IT WAS BEFORE THE BY-ELECTION, WAS BEFORE THE BY-ELECTION, ISN'T IT? [02:10:16] ISN'T IT? >> YES, THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT. [02:10:17] >> YES, THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT. NOTHING CHANGES APART FROM A NOTHING CHANGES APART FROM A BIGGER MANDATE [02:10:22] The latest in a long line of attacks in the occupied West [02:10:26] Bank, this time in the village of [02:10:28] Khusra, where militant settlers clashed [02:10:31] with Israeli troops. After the settlers cut off access to [02:10:34] three Palestinian homes, [02:10:37] Green Rd. that leads to the house was blocked, [02:10:40] says Ruqaiya Hasan. They dug up the road. They put rocks on it. [02:10:44] No one is allowed to pass through it. And they cut off [02:10:48] the electricity line. They cut off the water line from my from [02:10:52] my house. And my neighbor. Louie Reedy, [02:10:54] a Palestinian American, owns one of the homes that's [02:10:57] under siege. He's been watching from Ohio, [02:11:00] talking to his brother inside the house in Khusra where his [02:11:04] food is running low. [02:11:07] No one is helping him. And, and it just, you know, [02:11:10] it's terrifying. Video from a surveillance camera mounted on [02:11:14] Rudy's house until Israeli troops removed it shows [02:11:17] soldiers mingling with settlers. Other video appears to show [02:11:21] them praying together. The military initially took up [02:11:24] positions in Khusra and ordered several Palestinian families [02:11:28] out of their homes before reversing course and declaring [02:11:32] they could stay. Officially, the IDF calls this siege [02:11:35] illegal, reprehensible and unacceptable [02:11:38] and says any IDF member involved will face disciplinary [02:11:42] action. But human rights groups say previous incidents have [02:11:46] shown those are empty words. In many of the videos of the [02:11:49] attacks, you can see the settlers [02:11:52] attacking while there are soldiers together with them [02:11:55] either standing by and not doing anything or many times [02:11:59] even participating in those attacks. This attack has [02:12:03] prompted A sterner than usual response from Israel's closest [02:12:07] ally, the United States. [02:12:08] Mike Huckabee, the US ambassador to Israel, [02:12:12] has called the attackers Israeli terrorists while [02:12:15] insisting violence like this is the result of a very small [02:12:20] minority who do great damage. Tom Perry, CBC News, Ottawa. [02:12:27] In Germany, another anniversary marked In a [02:12:30] country where remembrance runs deep. [02:12:33] 65 years ago, people in Berlin woke up to [02:12:37] find a barbed wire fence had been erected. Overnight, [02:12:41] the Communist E cut off its people from fleeing to the [02:12:46] democratic W, splitting the city into. At [02:12:49] least 136 people died trying to cross. I'm afraid for our [02:12:54] freedom. Hartmut Richter successfully escaped. He swam [02:12:58] to the West in 1966. Then he helped 33 people escape too, [02:13:03] by smuggling them in the trunk of his. [02:13:06] So far, nobody could imagine that it [02:13:08] would be a 28 years. Many Germans thought the wall would [02:13:13] never come down until it did, nearly 3 decades later. It was [02:13:17] in my hotel and I heard in West Berlin and I heard so much [02:13:21] noise and I spent the whole night totally dazed with [02:13:25] everybody else crying and hugging. Since Unifying, [02:13:29] Germany has consistently advocated for the free movement [02:13:33] of people taking in large numbers of immigrants and [02:13:37] refugees. [02:13:39] But that identity is now facing one of its biggest tests. The [02:13:43] far right political party, the AFD Alternative for [02:13:47] Deutschland, continues to gain support. It [02:13:50] wants to severely restrict immigration. And the party [02:13:54] could win power for the first time in a state election next [02:13:58] month. What an irony, isn't it, that we talked about [02:14:02] reunification now in Germany for decades and we really want [02:14:06] to become one people again. And now we have a party that [02:14:11] really splits Germany and have memories of the wall are [02:14:14] everywhere in Berlin, even this cobblestone path that [02:14:18] marks exactly where the wall cut through the entire city. A [02:14:22] constant reminder of the scars of division as Germany faces [02:14:26] down a new era of political polarization. Marina von [02:14:30] Stackelberg, CBC News, Berlin. [02:16:35] For this outdoor adventure company, [02:16:37] business in the summer is usually brisk, [02:16:40] but it has slowed to a crawl. We've had no business [02:16:44] whatsoever this week, only [02:16:48] refunds, calling people to refund. [02:16:50] That's pretty much it with the deadly Bald Range wildfire [02:16:54] burning in BC Southern Interior. The air is thick with smoke, [02:16:57] Okanogan beaches that would normally be packed are bare and [02:17:01] almost no one is on the water. [02:17:04] We have a dozen kayaks and stand up paddle boards and a [02:17:08] tough pill to swallow if your company relies on tourism. It's [02:17:12] sad that you get to a point where where it's. That's how [02:17:16] you have to prepare yourself thinking that fires are a part [02:17:20] of the world. But it doesn't make it any easier on the day [02:17:24] when no one's renting bikes. [02:17:28] This local ice cream shop is feeling the pinch too. Business [02:17:31] has dropped at least 90% since the fire erupted. We've already [02:17:35] laid off a chunk of our staff. Like knowing that Summerland [02:17:39] isn't going to reopen right away. And we have entrepreneurs. [02:17:42] We don't have the big, big businesses that can really [02:17:45] hang on. So if this is a really important time for for our [02:17:49] small business community to be making money. Roughly 12, [02:17:52] 000 people on evacuation order have no timeline on when they [02:17:56] can go home. But with hot temperatures, [02:17:58] gusty winds and a chance of thunderstorms, [02:18:01] officials warn fires could intensify. [02:18:05] Evacuees like Christine Coletta are trying to find ways to pass [02:18:09] the time. These grapevines remind Coletta of her vineyard [02:18:13] inside Summerland she worries about the tourists she's losing [02:18:17] out on. About 35% of our total sales for the year come from [02:18:21] what we call the tasting room. If we can't get in and open the [02:18:25] tasting room and get our staff back in place, [02:18:28] we're going to miss seeing thousands of people from now [02:18:31] until the end of October. [02:18:34] For businesses inside and outside the evacuation zone, [02:18:37] they're taking it one day at a time, [02:18:39] hoping things get back to normal soon. And Julia, [02:18:42] some movement tonight on road closures in the area. That's [02:18:45] right. So Hwy. 97, which you can see behind me, [02:18:48] it runs through summer land and it has reopened. But traffic is [02:18:52] only allowed between the hours of 7:00 AM and 7:00 PM. And [02:18:55] drivers are not allowed to stop or exit the highway without a [02:18:59] temporary access pass. The regional district saying that [02:19:02] if drivers don't follow the rules, the highway could shut down [02:19:05] again. Julia Wong in Penticton, BC tonight. [02:19:12] At the Sikh temple in Penticton, volunteers cut and prepare [02:19:16] meals for evacuees. Since the Bald Range wildfire broke out [02:19:21] on Friday, they've been supplying food and [02:19:24] cooking hot meals, serving hundreds of evacuees [02:19:27] each day. So we start feeding some people. The one [02:19:31] desperately need essential items [02:19:35] because some of them, they had nothing with them, [02:19:37] not even shoes. Fresh fruits and vegetables are also [02:19:41] available for evacuees. They just come from local farms. [02:19:45] Fruit stands and some packing sheds and everybody willing to [02:19:49] donate more than we need the farm fresh food as satisfying [02:19:53] delight for summer land evacuee Barbara Dority. It's just [02:19:57] amazing that we have everything that's available that they've [02:20:01] taken from their farms and brought here for us. I mean, [02:20:04] how, how wonderful can that be? [02:20:08] Bethel Church in Penticton has also been helping, [02:20:11] supplying hundreds of food hampers to evacuees. [02:20:16] We have teams of people right now that have gone into the [02:20:20] community and they're just finding those folks that have [02:20:23] been displaced, that have maybe lost their [02:20:26] homes, that are have been evacuated, [02:20:28] that are living in RV's, living in parking lots, [02:20:31] in their cars. Sharon Larock and her husband have been [02:20:35] camping in their RV ever since they were evacuated from their [02:20:39] summer Land home. She says she's blown away at how the [02:20:42] people of Penticton have shown up to help. People drop by [02:20:46] every day, numerous times [02:20:47] every day, and they've given us bags of [02:20:50] fruit and, um, do you need any shampoo or [02:20:53] conditioner or deodorant or any kind of toiletry? [02:20:57] They have diapers, everything. The province says [02:21:01] they've freed up over 1000 hotel rooms across the Okanogan [02:21:05] to provide evacuees a place to stay. But with 12, [02:21:09] 000 people forced to evacuate and no timeline for when they [02:21:13] can return, many are still calling [02:21:16] Penticton's parking lots home. It's [02:21:19] not too bad, it gets nice cool at night so [02:21:22] we've been able to sleep. Lots of people sleeping in their car, [02:21:26] so we're very fortunate. [02:21:30] This moments of generosity, it's really, [02:21:33] really comforting. Adding a little comfort to evacuees [02:21:38] during moments of darkness and uncertainty. Tiffany Goodwin, [02:21:43] CBC News, Penticton. [02:21:47] So scrolling on social media and searching wildfire returns [02:21:49] millions of posts, some using AI to generate maps [02:21:53] indicating wildfires were happening all across Ontario, [02:21:56] when in reality there were no active wildfires in Toronto. [02:22:00] Other reels showing AI generated firefighters claiming [02:22:03] to be in Canada. [02:22:05] Hello Canadians, and some recently claiming [02:22:08] Allison is responsible for all wildfires in BC. In the absence [02:22:12] of verified official information, [02:22:15] people will often fill the gap and there's typically [02:22:18] speculation online. As soon as a wildfire emerges or or [02:22:22] wildfire season even begins, the conspiracy theories and the [02:22:26] misinformation and disinformation start start [02:22:29] increasing. And while RCMP has confirmed they are [02:22:32] investigating the cause of the board range fire, [02:22:36] they say this is typical. We've seen a number of human caused [02:22:39] fires. Human cause does not immediately indicate arson or [02:22:42] that it was intentionally set. Of course we've seen fires that [02:22:46] have been accidental, especially with some of the [02:22:48] conditions we've seen just like any other fire which we did a [02:22:52] suspicious until proven otherwise. To be clear, [02:22:55] 3 wildfires states that right now over 75% of wildfires this [02:22:58] year are determined or suspected to be caused by [02:23:02] lightning. And in a press conference on Tuesday, [02:23:05] they confirmed that in total, 4% of all wildfires in the last [02:23:09] 10 years in BC are believed to be intentionally set. But the [02:23:13] experts I spoke to say many AI generated images of flooding X [02:23:17] TikTok and Meta and making it difficult to find credible [02:23:20] information. Wildfire content lends itself to sensationalized [02:23:25] images and so any image forward platform is is going to be [02:23:28] really popular for this. I think the biggest thing to [02:23:31] lookout for is, does it distract away from [02:23:35] climate change? Sonia Suliman specializes in [02:23:38] researching misinformation and disinformation surrounding [02:23:41] extreme weather events. For the rise of AI generated a mess, [02:23:45] and disinformation around climate specifically is really [02:23:49] a huge problem in Canada. We've seen it's much easier to [02:23:52] circulate that can reach borders and in seconds. She [02:23:55] says some of those posts can include things like mislabeled [02:23:59] maps or text that talks about wildfire mismanagement. Their [02:24:03] direct disinformation narrative would be that [02:24:06] this is a deliberate act rather than one caused by natural [02:24:09] climate change. It changes the subject away from why are there [02:24:13] more fires in more places around the world that are [02:24:16] bigger and more frequent? It's because we have a hotter [02:24:20] and drier climate. So what's behind some of these posts when [02:24:23] it comes to disinformation meaning false information [02:24:27] shared on purpose? Michael Coop, Policy Co chair of Climate [02:24:30] Action Against Disinformation, says there's been a spike in [02:24:34] the last five years. Natural disaster [02:24:36] events have become a real hive for disinformation. The most [02:24:40] pernicious and dangerous parts of climate disinformation, [02:24:43] and disinformation in general, is that there's a network of [02:24:47] people who get paid to divide society on the most important [02:24:50] or most talked about issues. And the social media platforms [02:24:54] are are square one responsible for that entire system of [02:24:57] monetization. Vic 12 Rio is the executive director at What to [02:25:01] Fix, an organization that's been [02:25:03] tracking content monetization programs across social media [02:25:06] platforms. [02:25:07] In a situation like a wildfire, what you will have is a lot of [02:25:10] people turning to social media for minute to minute news, [02:25:14] and so you have an unusual amount of search for key terms [02:25:17] that are related to the wildfires. So we've seen quite [02:25:21] a bit of content that will sort of ride those keywords because [02:25:24] that's just a way to get views in times like this. And in [02:25:28] Canada, the experts we spoke to say [02:25:30] that DIS and misinformation can be more extreme due to Matters [02:25:34] response to Canada's Online News Act, which blocks [02:25:37] Asian users from seeing all new sites on Facebook and Instagram. [02:25:41] When journalism disappears, it's not [02:25:44] replaced by nothing. Something has to fill that void, right? [02:25:48] And right now, it's replaced by content that [02:25:50] serves a very different function. So influencer posts, [02:25:54] which carry no attribution and score far higher on emotional [02:25:57] intensity are are much more popular now. Take this post on [02:26:01] Facebook about the wildfire in Peachland, [02:26:03] BC last year. While the post says it's AI generated, [02:26:06] it's still got a lot of views. The BC Wildfire Service [02:26:09] specifically called out this image along with another AI [02:26:13] image, saying they do not accurately [02:26:15] represent the terrain, fire size or fire behaviour in [02:26:18] the area and that these types of posts can add to anxiety [02:26:21] that come with wildfires. The post appears to be published by [02:26:25] a digital creator on Instagram with 80, [02:26:27] 000 followers and on Facebook with 2 million followers. The [02:26:31] accounts feature multiple posts about wildfires and other [02:26:34] extreme weather events this year. We do unfortunately come [02:26:38] across quite a lot of those. There's very large communities [02:26:41] of individual. They've come to realize that they can generate [02:26:45] quite a bit [02:26:46] of revenue by running faceless accounts and automating much of [02:26:49] the process and really jumping from crisis to crisis. Now, [02:26:53] we searched the What to Fix Monetization archive and found [02:26:57] that the account owner of that AI generated wildfire post is a [02:27:00] monetized Facebook account. So two years ago, [02:27:03] based on the data that we have, we had two million accounts [02:27:07] registered to monetize on Facebook. Today we're looking [02:27:10] at 16 000, 000. So that's an 800% increase [02:27:13] in just two years. There are more players, [02:27:16] possibly less money to be made, but still, [02:27:18] if you're making $1000 a month in many of those places, [02:27:21] that actually goes a very long way and it's incentive enough. [02:27:25] We reached out to the account owner about the posts but did [02:27:29] not receive a response by our deadline. Rio says while [02:27:32] monetization programs like Meters do help content creators [02:27:35] generate income, they lack regulation when it [02:27:38] comes to who qualifies for the program. The whole AI slot [02:27:41] problem is very much a byproduct of those monetization [02:27:44] programs, and it's not just [02:27:46] better. Rios says X, TikTok, Snapchat and LinkedIn all have [02:27:50] their own content monetization programs. Solomon says without [02:27:53] more regulation on these platforms, [02:27:55] it could have real consequences. It can really misdirect public [02:27:59] response and undermine of official emergency [02:28:02] communications. We need policies to to strengthen [02:28:04] information integrity and certainly AI safety and that's [02:28:08] really the structural at the structural platform level and [02:28:11] that includes the economic models that these platforms are built on. [02:28:18] Check this out. This is a NASA ER 2A repurposed Cold War spy [02:28:20] craft, and it was just tracked flying [02:28:22] back and forth over Western Canada for six hours straight. [02:28:26] So why is a NASA spy plane flying over Canada? [02:28:29] It's up there because of these fire clouds, [02:28:31] a phenomenon we don't fully understand. I'll explain. [02:28:34] Canada is dealing with explosive wildfires like the [02:28:38] Bald Range Fire that erupted in size on August 7th. And NASA [02:28:41] sent this high altitude spy plane to track a terrifying [02:28:44] weather event born out of the flames [02:28:47] cloud called pyro cumulonimbus, or firecloud. Here's how these [02:28:50] firestorms work. When a wildfire gets big enough and [02:28:53] hot enough in a short amount of time, it triggers giant, [02:28:56] violent updrafts. the Super heated air and moisture act [02:29:00] like a vacuum, pulling winds and oxygen into [02:29:02] the base of the fire, giving it the fuel it needs [02:29:05] while punching smoke straight up into the sky. This creates A [02:29:08] literal thunderstorm, one that generates its own [02:29:11] downbursts, erratic lightning strikes, [02:29:13] and even fire tornadoes. It was officially added to the [02:29:16] International Cloud Atlas in 2017 as Cumulonimbus Flamm agenus, [02:29:20] and scientists have been trying to understand them ever since. [02:29:24] Data from the World Climate Research Program shows that [02:29:27] these storms act like chimneys. For a long time, [02:29:30] scientists thought only big volcanic eruptions or nuclear [02:29:33] blasts could force particles into the stratosphere. Now we [02:29:37] know these intense pyrocumulus can shoot plumes of black [02:29:40] carbon and aerosols up to 16 kilometers into the lower [02:29:43] stratosphere, where they stay trapped. And [02:29:46] climate change is making these fire cloud [02:29:48] producing mega fires occur more often and the most often in [02:29:51] Canada, according to the latest [02:29:53] research. And that's exactly why NASA is flying a spy plane [02:29:56] directly over the smoke at 60, 000 feet. It's a modified [02:29:59] Lockheed U2, nicknamed the Dragon Lady, [02:30:01] an aircraft used by the US military back in the pre [02:30:04] satellite era for exactly this purpose. Studying the ground [02:30:08] from incredibly high, the R2 sits safely in the [02:30:10] stratosphere looking straight down into the core of the storm. [02:30:14] It's measuring the exact height, temperature and thickness of [02:30:17] the plume in real time. [02:30:19] The goal is to figure out exactly how these firestorms [02:30:21] develop so we can forecast them, because understanding this fire [02:30:25] monster is the first step to surviving it. Johanna Wagstaff, [02:30:28] CBC News, Vancouver. [02:32:33] Ontario's opposition parties are demanding answers over [02:32:36] reports that the Progressive Conservative Party spied on [02:32:40] former provincial Liberal leader Bonnie Crombie, [02:32:42] and these allegations are first reported by the Trillium and [02:32:46] Pauli Corner. The party allegedly spent nearly 3000 in [02:32:49] donor and taxpayer dollars on resorts in Jamaica. In a [02:32:53] statement to CBC News, a party spokesperson confirmed [02:32:56] quote opposition research occurred in December of 2023. [02:32:59] The alleged surveillance took place six days after Crombie [02:33:03] won the Liberal leadership race. My next guest was one of the [02:33:07] reporters breaking that story. Ahmed El Bayoumi is the author [02:33:11] of Polly Corner, and he joins me now. Thank you [02:33:14] very much for your time. [02:33:19] And can you tell me, so how did this come? [02:33:22] How did you, you know, get a tip and and how did you [02:33:26] find this out? So essentially on Monday, [02:33:28] my colleague Jack Cowan at the Trillium reported that $3000 [02:33:32] was spent by the PC Party in Ontario on hotels in Jamaica. [02:33:36] And a couple of days later, as journalists in this province [02:33:40] try to figure out what these hotels were used for. Myself [02:33:43] and my colleague Charlie Pinkerton at the Trillium, [02:33:47] we both reported for the Trillium and for Polly Corner [02:33:50] that the PC Party sent an operative to Jamaica in order [02:33:54] to spy on, as is alleged by our sources, [02:33:56] the former then Liberal leader, Bonnie Crombie. Now keep in [02:34:00] mind, she was just elected Liberal [02:34:02] leader. It was six days after her win that she went to [02:34:05] Jamaica for a three day vacation. It is that. It is [02:34:08] then when we are told that the Conservatives sent an operative [02:34:12] to stay at the same resort that she was at to try to gather [02:34:16] Intel about her. This is what they describe as opposition [02:34:19] research. Oftentimes to, you know, [02:34:21] information on a political opponent that not that might [02:34:25] not be necessarily pleasant or or or [02:34:29] good for them [02:34:31] reeds on like a a movie plot at a Hollywood that Ford has [02:34:34] reacted to the story today. Yeah. What's he saying? Well, [02:34:38] I asked the premier explicitly why he thought that taxpayer [02:34:41] money was it was OK for taxpayer money to be spent on [02:34:44] an operation like this. Keep in mind, [02:34:46] political parties in Ontario, they make their money from both [02:34:50] donors but from also a per vote subsidy that is paid by the [02:34:53] taxpayer. The Premier said he only found out when Polly [02:34:56] Corner and the Trillium asked questions yesterday and that he [02:35:00] was not aware that he does not approve of it [02:35:02] personally, but that we should ask [02:35:04] questions to the party. And as you said, [02:35:06] the party in a statement this evening confirmed to us that [02:35:10] they didn't indeed send someone to Jamaica on what they are [02:35:14] describing as an opposition research mission. [02:35:17] So the opposition, the Liberal Party, who were, [02:35:20] you know, I guess the subject of this [02:35:22] reconnaissance, what's the reaction there? Well, [02:35:25] opposition parties are describing this as creepy, [02:35:28] disgusting and completely inappropriate. Mart Styles, [02:35:31] the leader of the official Opposition NDP here, [02:35:34] she said yesterday that she thought that the buck stops [02:35:37] with the premier, that regardless of whether he [02:35:40] knew or whether it was, you know, a senior staffer, [02:35:42] a junior staffer, that the premier is ultimately [02:35:45] accountable for this. The leader of the Liberals, [02:35:48] they said that he doesn't believe. John Fraser said that [02:35:52] he doesn't believe that the premier is telling the truth, [02:35:55] that the premier ought to have known that someone from his [02:35:58] from his team was was sent to Jamaica to do this and that it [02:36:02] crosses a line. There is in their opinion, [02:36:05] a difference between a political operation when a [02:36:08] politician is actively doing their job and when a politician [02:36:11] is outside of the country on a vacation. Yeah. So that for [02:36:15] saying that he did not know about this, he's also, [02:36:18] I believe, saying [02:36:19] that this is no different in his mind than when reporters [02:36:23] follow him on trips to the US. So you've covered Queens Park [02:36:26] for, what, four years now? Yeah. Is it different? I, [02:36:30] I do think it is different. I think that journalists being [02:36:33] able to follow the premier on a trip, [02:36:36] whether he is a premier or a counselor at the time, that is, [02:36:39] you know, where he is doing government [02:36:42] business is very different from journalists, you know, [02:36:45] going after the premier on a vacation. Keep in mind that [02:36:49] this is a premier who who talks a lot about, you know, [02:36:52] how important his personal privacy and his family's [02:36:55] privacy is. The premier took issue years ago, [02:36:58] I believe two or three years ago when protester protesters [02:37:01] showed up to his house. He told them to, you know, [02:37:04] keep the politics at Queens Park. And so the premier is [02:37:07] ultimately now answering for why he thought that the OR why [02:37:10] his party thought that the standard here was somewhat [02:37:13] different For Bonnie Crombie [02:37:16] Ahmed Al Bayoumi, the author of Poly Corner. [02:37:18] Thanks so much for coming into studio to talk to us. Thanks for having me. [02:40:58] Montreal police are utilizing AI to help with its [02:41:00] investigations. The tech and the way it's being used could [02:41:03] change policing in the city moving forward. The SPVM has [02:41:06] made it very clear they're interested in it to this [02:41:09] technology. They're deploying this technology. A surveillance [02:41:13] camera similar to Flock in the United States is here. It's [02:41:16] called the Cloud Runner CRH 2 from Montreal based company [02:41:19] Genentech. It scans license plates but can also identify [02:41:22] the colour, make and model of vehicles. But [02:41:25] unlike Flock, the information can only be accessed by its operator. [02:41:29] The camera is one part of a larger software that uses AI to [02:41:33] detect and identify vehicles. But the company says privacy is [02:41:37] carefully monitored and that data can't be tampered with as [02:41:40] every interaction with it is logged. You should have an [02:41:44] expectation of reasonable privacy. However, as I said, [02:41:47] it's a trade off. If the threat of something bad happening is [02:41:52] high, as a community we need to say [02:41:54] what are we comfortable with giving up? In a statement, [02:41:57] the SPBM says that it's only using the cloud [02:42:00] and her camera for a specific investigation and that other [02:42:04] similar cameras could be added in the future. It is connected [02:42:08] to the wireless network, so the cellular network. And so [02:42:12] footage that it collects, just watching traffic, [02:42:15] watching whatever goes on outside is then sent to, [02:42:18] you know, a cloud service. And then [02:42:20] artificial intelligence is used to analyze those that that [02:42:24] footage. The SPM is also using another software called imotion [02:42:28] Roc. It's an American software from Rank One [02:42:31] Computing. It uses AI to track certain characteristics, [02:42:35] among other things. It's currently on 46 urban security [02:42:39] cameras and can even work on video collected by officers [02:42:43] with citizen consent or warrant. Rock's ability is to look up to [02:42:48] 8 different attributes at once. So the ability to go rapidly [02:42:52] and look at different images, all the images at normal speed [02:42:57] and analyze the footage so you can find something specific. [02:43:01] Though the software has real time biometric tracking [02:43:04] capabilities, VBM says it wouldn't use those [02:43:07] features. It says it would focus on elements detectives [02:43:10] already know. And we'll look for visual attributes like [02:43:14] clothing. An internal privacy impact assessment by the SPVM [02:43:17] obtained by CBC News acknowledges the technology [02:43:20] poses civil liberties risks. They mentioned that it could [02:43:23] put innocent third parties under investigation and the [02:43:26] risk of discrimination based on visible social characteristics. [02:43:30] This lawyer says the right to privacy is fundamental. [02:43:33] And if we're using AI to organize, to treat, to analyze, [02:43:39] make decisions or projections based on this data, [02:43:45] you, the individual will lose [02:43:47] control over is his privacy. At least in the public domain. The [02:43:51] city's public records show a $17, [02:43:53] 000 contract to obtain 4 Cloud Runner units over the [02:43:56] subscription of one year. CBC News reached out to the city [02:44:00] and asked if it had submitted a bid to obtain the Cloud Runner [02:44:04] cameras, and it said it didn't. Levy [02:44:06] says these technologies could be abused by law enforcement [02:44:10] and that's why it's important for cities to be as transparent [02:44:13] as possible. Every time [02:44:15] camera pops up in public use without any explanation for why [02:44:19] it's there, it's reasonable for members of [02:44:21] the public to ask questions, why is it being used, [02:44:24] Who is using it? What is it being used for? [02:44:27] How are my rights being protected? [02:44:29] Says policymakers have to catch up and set limitations on how [02:44:33] AI technology can be used in public. [02:44:38] RIGHTFUL OWNERS. ALI CHAISSON HAS THE STORY. >> Reporter: THOUSANDS OF [02:44:40] ALI CHAISSON HAS THE STORY. >> Reporter: THOUSANDS OF PIECES OF JEWELERY WERE STOLEN [02:44:42] >> Reporter: THOUSANDS OF PIECES OF JEWELERY WERE STOLEN OVER THE LAST YEAR IN AN ALLEGED [02:44:45] PIECES OF JEWELERY WERE STOLEN OVER THE LAST YEAR IN AN ALLEGED THEFT RING THAT TARGETED CONDOS. [02:44:48] OVER THE LAST YEAR IN AN ALLEGED THEFT RING THAT TARGETED CONDOS. BRACELETS, EARRINGS, NECKLACES, [02:44:50] THEFT RING THAT TARGETED CONDOS. BRACELETS, EARRINGS, NECKLACES, WATCHES, OVER 2,500 SUSPECTED [02:44:53] BRACELETS, EARRINGS, NECKLACES, WATCHES, OVER 2,500 SUSPECTED STOLEN ITEMS WORTH OVER A [02:44:56] WATCHES, OVER 2,500 SUSPECTED STOLEN ITEMS WORTH OVER A MILLION DOLLARS. STOLEN ITEMS WORTH OVER A MILLION DOLLARS. PROJECT COMPASS WAS LAUNCHED IN [02:44:59] MILLION DOLLARS. PROJECT COMPASS WAS LAUNCHED IN PLAY 2025 WHEN PEOPLE IN CONDOS PROJECT COMPASS WAS LAUNCHED IN PLAY 2025 WHEN PEOPLE IN CONDOS STARTED TO REPORT THEIR JEWELERY [02:45:03] PLAY 2025 WHEN PEOPLE IN CONDOS STARTED TO REPORT THEIR JEWELERY GOING MISSING. STARTED TO REPORT THEIR JEWELERY GOING MISSING. THE INVESTIGATION EXPANDED FROM [02:45:06] GOING MISSING. THE INVESTIGATION EXPANDED FROM THERE. THE INVESTIGATION EXPANDED FROM THERE. >> INVESTIGATORS CONDUCTED A [02:45:10] THERE. >> INVESTIGATORS CONDUCTED A DETAILED REVIEW OF SURVEILLANCE >> INVESTIGATORS CONDUCTED A DETAILED REVIEW OF SURVEILLANCE FOOTAGE AND QUICKLY IDENTIFIED A [02:45:14] DETAILED REVIEW OF SURVEILLANCE FOOTAGE AND QUICKLY IDENTIFIED A PATTERN. FOOTAGE AND QUICKLY IDENTIFIED A PATTERN. FURTHER INVESTIGATIVE WORK [02:45:17] PATTERN. FURTHER INVESTIGATIVE WORK IDENTIFIED ADDITIONAL SUSPECTS FURTHER INVESTIGATIVE WORK IDENTIFIED ADDITIONAL SUSPECTS AND ASSOCIATES REVEALING A [02:45:21] IDENTIFIED ADDITIONAL SUSPECTS AND ASSOCIATES REVEALING A NETWORK OF OFFENDERS RESPONSIBLE AND ASSOCIATES REVEALING A NETWORK OF OFFENDERS RESPONSIBLE FOR THESE OFFENCES. [02:45:25] NETWORK OF OFFENDERS RESPONSIBLE FOR THESE OFFENCES. NOT JUST IN TORONTO BUT ACROSS FOR THESE OFFENCES. NOT JUST IN TORONTO BUT ACROSS THE GREATER TORONTO AREA. [02:45:29] NOT JUST IN TORONTO BUT ACROSS THE GREATER TORONTO AREA. >> Reporter: POLICE ARRESTED THE GREATER TORONTO AREA. >> Reporter: POLICE ARRESTED THREE MEN WHO NOW FACE 150 [02:45:33] >> Reporter: POLICE ARRESTED THREE MEN WHO NOW FACE 150 CHARGES BETWEEN THEM, INCLUDING THREE MEN WHO NOW FACE 150 CHARGES BETWEEN THEM, INCLUDING BREAK AND ENTER AND THE USE OF [02:45:37] CHARGES BETWEEN THEM, INCLUDING BREAK AND ENTER AND THE USE OF DISGUISES. BREAK AND ENTER AND THE USE OF DISGUISES. POLICE ALLEGE THEY POSED AS [02:45:40] DISGUISES. POLICE ALLEGE THEY POSED AS MAINTENANCE WORKERS TO GAIN POLICE ALLEGE THEY POSED AS MAINTENANCE WORKERS TO GAIN ACCESS TO CONDOS. [02:45:44] MAINTENANCE WORKERS TO GAIN ACCESS TO CONDOS. ALLEGEDLY TAKING THE STOLEN ACCESS TO CONDOS. ALLEGEDLY TAKING THE STOLEN JEWELERY TO A PAWN SHOP [02:45:47] ALLEGEDLY TAKING THE STOLEN JEWELERY TO A PAWN SHOP DOWNTOWN. JEWELERY TO A PAWN SHOP DOWNTOWN. THE PAWN SHOP OWNER IS NOT AMONG [02:45:51] DOWNTOWN. THE PAWN SHOP OWNER IS NOT AMONG THE THREE SUSPECTS WHO HAVE BEEN THE PAWN SHOP OWNER IS NOT AMONG THE THREE SUSPECTS WHO HAVE BEEN ARRESTED BUT POLICE SAY THAT [02:45:55] THE THREE SUSPECTS WHO HAVE BEEN ARRESTED BUT POLICE SAY THAT COULD CHANGE. ARRESTED BUT POLICE SAY THAT COULD CHANGE. IF IT'S FOUND THAT HE KNEW THE [02:45:58] COULD CHANGE. IF IT'S FOUND THAT HE KNEW THE ITEMS WERE STOLEN OR DIDN'T DO IF IT'S FOUND THAT HE KNEW THE ITEMS WERE STOLEN OR DIDN'T DO THE DUE DILIGENCE TO ENSURE THAT [02:46:02] ITEMS WERE STOLEN OR DIDN'T DO THE DUE DILIGENCE TO ENSURE THAT THEY WEREN'T. THE DUE DILIGENCE TO ENSURE THAT THEY WEREN'T. >> HE'S PART OF THE [02:46:06] THEY WEREN'T. >> HE'S PART OF THE INVESTIGATION, AND I ANTICIPATE >> HE'S PART OF THE INVESTIGATION, AND I ANTICIPATE THAT HE MAY BE FACING CHARGES IN [02:46:10] INVESTIGATION, AND I ANTICIPATE THAT HE MAY BE FACING CHARGES IN THE NEAR FUTURE. THAT HE MAY BE FACING CHARGES IN THE NEAR FUTURE. >> Reporter: THE SHOP WAS [02:46:13] THE NEAR FUTURE. >> Reporter: THE SHOP WAS CLOSED WHEN WE VISITED AND NOW >> Reporter: THE SHOP WAS CLOSED WHEN WE VISITED AND NOW THE WORK BEGINS TO REUNITE [02:46:17] CLOSED WHEN WE VISITED AND NOW THE WORK BEGINS TO REUNITE PEOPLE WITH THEIR STOLEN THE WORK BEGINS TO REUNITE PEOPLE WITH THEIR STOLEN JEWELERY. [02:46:21] It's a common sight on summer nights, [02:46:23] kids and teens racing around on E scooters hitting 40 to 60 [02:46:27] kilometers or more. This 12 year old boy was left with a [02:46:31] fractured skull after crashing without a helmet. There was a [02:46:35] possibility he would not make it. Crystal Dunkley's son Sean [02:46:39] was in a coma for a week last summer and spent more than a [02:46:43] month in hospital. He eventually made a full recovery [02:46:47] and now reminds others to wear a helmet. He has tried to turn [02:46:51] a tragedy. This is something [02:46:55] positive. [02:46:57] Canadian doctors say more kids are getting seriously injured, [02:47:01] even dying, in E scooter accidents. A new [02:47:04] survey of pediatricians suggests there were 10 deaths, [02:47:08] 12 ICU admissions and 26 hospitalizations lasting more [02:47:12] than two days, all linked to E scooter crashes [02:47:15] in just one year. These devices are often marketed as toys, [02:47:19] and I will tell you they're anything but toys. [02:47:24] Sick Kids in Toronto is among the hospitals seeing a spike in [02:47:27] injuries from two dozen cases in 2023 to more than 100 last [02:47:31] year. And this year we're likely on target for more than [02:47:34] that. So we're just seeing a complete exponential rise in [02:47:38] the number of kids we're seeing in any injury. And so it [02:47:41] follows that more severe injuries will also increase [02:47:45] that kind of this a similar rate. E scooters are illegal [02:47:48] for most Canadians under 16, but we're not seeing [02:47:51] enforcement of age. We're not seeing enforcement [02:47:54] of double riding. Helmet wear is not enforced. [02:48:00] The 18 year old son of former Canadian Prime Minister Justin [02:48:04] Trudeau skipped any head protection for a back to school [02:48:07] E scooter ad this week. I would say this is the Rolls Royce of [02:48:11] scooters. Prompting his mom to ask where's your helmet? [02:48:15] Xavier Trudeau quickly posted an apology, [02:48:18] saying safety is the most important thing. With a [02:48:21] patchwork of local bylaws across much of the country, [02:48:25] doctors worry more young riders will remain at risk. Lauren [02:48:28] Pelley, CBC News, Toronto. [02:48:32] COUNTRY IT'S THE MOST DRAMATIC SPIKE IT'S EVER SEEN. [02:48:37] SPIKE IT'S EVER SEEN. >> WE ARE RECEIVING A CRISIS >> WE ARE RECEIVING A CRISIS TEXT EVERY 90 SECONDS. [02:48:41] TEXT EVERY 90 SECONDS. >> Reporter: THE KIDS' HELP >> Reporter: THE KIDS' HELP PHONE HAS SEEN A GRADUAL [02:48:45] PHONE HAS SEEN A GRADUAL INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE USING THE HELP LINE [02:48:48] PEOPLE USING THE HELP LINE SINCE THE PANDEMIC BUT NOTHING SINCE THE PANDEMIC BUT NOTHING LIKE THIS YEAR. [02:48:52] LIKE THIS YEAR. >> IT'S ALWAYS STRESSING WHEN A >> IT'S ALWAYS STRESSING WHEN A YOUNG PEOPLE REACHES OUT AND [02:48:55] YOUNG PEOPLE REACHES OUT AND TALK ABOUT THE FACT THAT THEY TALK ABOUT THE FACT THAT THEY ARE THINKING ABOUT AND HAVE [02:48:59] ARE THINKING ABOUT AND HAVE THOUGHTS OF SUICIDE. THOUGHTS OF SUICIDE. WE HAVE DEFINITELY SEEN AN [02:49:02] WE HAVE DEFINITELY SEEN AN INCREASE IN YOUNGER PEOPLE, INCREASE IN YOUNGER PEOPLE, YOUNGER THAN THE AGE OF 12, [02:49:06] YOUNGER THAN THE AGE OF 12, TELLING US THAT THEY ARE [02:49:10] TELLING US THAT THEY ARE THINKING ABOUT SUICIDE OR [02:49:13] THINKING ABOUT SUICIDE OR ENDING THEIR LIFE. ENDING THEIR LIFE. WE NEED TO BE THERE TO SUPPORT WE NEED TO BE THERE TO SUPPORT THEM. [02:49:17] THEM. >> Reporter: THE NONPROFIT IS >> Reporter: THE NONPROFIT IS SEEING A 24% INCREASE IN CALLS [02:49:20] SEEING A 24% INCREASE IN CALLS ACROSS THE COUNTRY ESPECIALLY ACROSS THE COUNTRY ESPECIALLY AT NIGHT. [02:49:23] AT NIGHT. WHILE NUMBERS IN NUNAVUT REMAIN [02:49:29] WHILE NUMBERS IN NUNAVUT REMAIN BELOW THE NATIONAL AVERAGE BELOW THE NATIONAL AVERAGE YUKON TOPS THE LIST WITH AN [02:49:33] YUKON TOPS THE LIST WITH AN ALARMING 63% INCREASE. [02:49:36] ALARMING 63% INCREASE. WITH STUDENTS RETURNING TO [02:49:41] WITH STUDENTS RETURNING TO SCHOOL NEXT MONTH THE CALLS ARE SCHOOL NEXT MONTH THE CALLS ARE ABOUT A RANGE OF COMPLEX [02:49:44] ABOUT A RANGE OF COMPLEX ISSUES. ISSUES. >> WHETHER IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT >> WHETHER IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT SCHOOL BUT WONDERING ABOUT [02:49:48] SCHOOL BUT WONDERING ABOUT THEIR FUTURE. THEIR FUTURE. I'M GOING TO SCHOOL, IS A.I. [02:49:52] I'M GOING TO SCHOOL, IS A.I. GOING TO TAKEAWAY MY JOBS, OR [02:49:54] GOING TO TAKEAWAY MY JOBS, OR I'M GRADUATING AND WHAT DO I [02:50:01] I'M GRADUATING AND WHAT DO I DO. DO. THERE'S A CONCERN ABOUT CLIMATE [02:50:04] THERE'S A CONCERN ABOUT CLIMATE CHANGE AND FLOODING AND JUST [02:50:05] CHANGE AND FLOODING AND JUST THE IMPACTS OF SOCIAL MEDIA, [02:50:08] THE IMPACTS OF SOCIAL MEDIA, THE STRESS THAT HAVING DEVICES [02:50:10] THE STRESS THAT HAVING DEVICES HAS AFFECTED YOUNG PEOPLE. [02:50:13] HAS AFFECTED YOUNG PEOPLE. >> THERE'S A DICHOTOMY IN THIS. [02:50:20] >> THERE'S A DICHOTOMY IN THIS. THE KIDS' HELP PHONE IS BEING [02:50:24] THE KIDS' HELP PHONE IS BEING UTILIZED IN THE RIGHT CAPACITY, UTILIZED IN THE RIGHT CAPACITY, RIGHT? RIGHT? THIS MEANS THAT KIDS ARE AWARE [02:50:27] THIS MEANS THAT KIDS ARE AWARE THAT THERE IS A RESOURCE OUT THAT THERE IS A RESOURCE OUT THERE THAT CAN SUPPORT THEM. [02:50:31] THERE THAT CAN SUPPORT THEM. >> Reporter: SHE SAYS SHE HAS A [02:50:33] >> Reporter: SHE SAYS SHE HAS A MESSAGE FOR YOUNG PEOPLE MESSAGE FOR YOUNG PEOPLE STRUGGLING WITH MENTAL HEALTH [02:50:36] STRUGGLING WITH MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES AND WONDERING IF THEY ISSUES AND WONDERING IF THEY NEED HELP. [02:50:40] NEED HELP. >> MY MESSAGE IS IT'S OKAY FOR [02:50:43] >> MY MESSAGE IS IT'S OKAY FOR THEM TO BE SEEN, IT'S OKAY FOR [02:50:49] THEM TO BE SEEN, IT'S OKAY FOR THEM TO LAND SAFELY SOMEWHERE THEM TO LAND SAFELY SOMEWHERE WHERE THEY CAN TRUST SOMEONE [02:50:52] WHERE THEY CAN TRUST SOMEONE WITH THEIR STORIES WITH. WITH THEIR STORIES WITH. IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THEM TO GET [02:50:55] IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THEM TO GET THAT SUPPORT AND BE COMFORTABLE [02:50:58] THAT SUPPORT AND BE COMFORTABLE AND HAVE A MENTOR AND HAVE A AND HAVE A MENTOR AND HAVE A RELATIONSHIP THAT THEY FEEL [02:51:02] RELATIONSHIP THAT THEY FEEL GOOD TO BE AROUND. [02:51:03] GOOD TO BE AROUND. >> Reporter: SHE HOPES PARENTS >> Reporter: SHE HOPES PARENTS [02:53:08] This scene outside Calgary Saddledome, [02:53:10] a bit of a summer trend. Thousands of fans left waiting [02:53:14] for hours for a Neo and Akon concert that started two hours [02:53:17] late. You couldn't even get to your seats. They weren't [02:53:20] letting people. Everyone's just sitting in the concourse. [02:53:25] A brief apology from the stage, but no compensation. Amandeep [02:53:30] Walia says between 2:00 tickets, extending a babysitter and food, [02:53:34] he spent around $700.00 for the experience. We should have got [02:53:38] a 30% rebate or you know, a 40% credit towards the next [02:53:42] show from Ticketmaster in New York City, [02:53:45] a different artist. But another delay when a Jay-Z show started [02:53:49] 4 hours late came about 12/12/15. But it was it was it [02:53:53] was definitely a show to remember. [02:53:57] Risers blamed non ticket holders who stormed the [02:54:00] entrances, creating security issues. 10, [02:54:02] 000 people outside. I don't wanna stop using. People get [02:54:06] trampled, so I know [02:54:09] convenience. Experts say ticket holders don't have many rights, [02:54:13] even when shows run hours behind. Most concert ticket [02:54:16] contracts are written to give promoters considerable [02:54:20] flexibility if schedules change. But consumer advocates say [02:54:24] concert promoters should be transparent with ticket holders [02:54:28] about any schedule changes. It might be worthwhile trying to [02:54:32] legislate for some sort of rights similar to when you have [02:54:36] a flight and if your flight is delayed by two or three hours, [02:54:40] you have the right to a refund. Live Nation Canada says it [02:54:44] understands delays can be frustrating but adds live [02:54:47] events are complex and involve many moving parts and despite [02:54:50] extensive planning, unforeseen circumstances can [02:54:53] sometimes arise. Frustrate me the most was if they were to [02:54:57] start on time, we would have got that full [02:55:00] experience [02:55:02] and experience Walia and his wife had been looking forward [02:55:06] to for months. Ina Sidhu, CBC News, Calgary. [02:56:41] inspiring. The cost of the games is just over three and a [02:59:59] interesting. All you need are some of these skills. Yeah. [03:00:02] Exactly. Sandra Abma, CBC News, Ottawa. [03:00:30] Canada U.S. Trade Minister Dominic LeBlanc met with U.S. [03:00:32] Trade Representative Jameson Greer in Washington as pressure [03:00:36] to get a new trade deal ratchets up even higher. [03:00:41] He rejected any proposals by the US [03:00:44] about that. LeBlanc keeping radio silence on a possible [03:00:48] deadlock despite the looming deadline. New potentially [03:00:52] devastating 50% US tariffs on a wide range of Canadian goods [03:00:56] are just days from snapping into place. But at least one