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[00:00:24] I'm Adrian Arceneaux, chief correspondent for CBC News. Here's what's making news right now.
[00:00:32] HOMES. >> Eli: THANK YOU, LINDA. >> Eli: THANK YOU, LINDA. >> Linda: YOU'RE WELCOME.
[00:00:35] >> Linda: YOU'RE WELCOME. >> Eli: TURNING NOW TO TRADE >> Eli: TURNING NOW TO TRADE NEGOTIATIONS BETWEEN CANADA AND NEGOTIATIONS BETWEEN CANADA AND THE U.S.
[00:00:39] THE U.S. THE TWO COUNTRIES ARE STILL FAR THE TWO COUNTRIES ARE STILL FAR APART ON A TARIFF DEAL AS THE
[00:00:42] APART ON A TARIFF DEAL AS THE CLOCK TICKS DOWN TO NEXT WEEK'S
[00:00:45] CLOCK TICKS DOWN TO NEXT WEEK'S DEADLINE FOR A SWEEPING ROUND OF DEADLINE FOR A SWEEPING ROUND OF TARIFFS.
[00:00:48] TARIFFS. WASHINGTON SAYS IT'S WILLING TO WASHINGTON SAYS IT'S WILLING TO PULL BACK ON AUTO TARIFFS, BUT
[00:00:51] PULL BACK ON AUTO TARIFFS, BUT IT'S STILL DEMANDING IT'S STILL DEMANDING CONCESSIONS.
[00:00:54] CONCESSIONS. THE MESSAGE FROM U.S. TRADE THE MESSAGE FROM U.S. TRADE REPRESENTATIVES IS THAT
[00:00:57] REPRESENTATIVES IS THAT AMERICA'S TARIFFS ARE FAIR AND AMERICA'S TARIFFS ARE FAIR AND THE COUNTRY WON'T TOLERATE
[00:01:00] THE COUNTRY WON'T TOLERATE CANADIAN RETALIATION.
[00:01:02] CANADIAN RETALIATION. THE CBC'S KATE McKENNA REPORTS.
[00:01:27] THE CBC'S KATE McKENNA REPORTS. >> Reporter: U.S. TRADE >> Reporter: U.S. TRADE REPRESENTATIVE JAMIESON GREER
[00:01:30] REPRESENTATIVE JAMIESON GREER TOURING THIS TIRE FACTORY IN THE TOURING THIS TIRE FACTORY IN THE MIDWEST AND PROMOTING HIS
[00:01:33] MIDWEST AND PROMOTING HIS MESSAGE, THAT TARIFFS ARE SAVING MESSAGE, THAT TARIFFS ARE SAVING U.S. JOBS AFTER A WEEK OF
[00:01:36] U.S. JOBS AFTER A WEEK OF NEGOTIATIONS WITH CANADIAN NEGOTIATIONS WITH CANADIAN OFFICIALS TO GET A NEW TRADE OFFICIALS TO GET A NEW TRADE DEAL.
[00:01:39] DEAL. >> I'M WONDERING FROM YOUR >> I'M WONDERING FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE AND FROM THE TRUMP
[00:01:42] PERSPECTIVE AND FROM THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION'S PERSPECTIVE, ADMINISTRATION'S PERSPECTIVE, HOW ARE NEGOTIATIONS GOING
[00:01:45] HOW ARE NEGOTIATIONS GOING BETWEEN CANADA AND THE U.S.? BETWEEN CANADA AND THE U.S.? >> WE'RE HAVING WHAT I WOULD
[00:01:48] >> WE'RE HAVING WHAT I WOULD CALL CONSTRUCTIVE NEGOTIATIONS CALL CONSTRUCTIVE NEGOTIATIONS WITH THE CANADIANS.
[00:01:51] WITH THE CANADIANS. AT THE END OF THE DAY, PRESIDENT AT THE END OF THE DAY, PRESIDENT TRUMP AND THE UNITED STATES,
[00:01:54] TRUMP AND THE UNITED STATES, WE'RE GOING TO DO WHAT IS BEST WE'RE GOING TO DO WHAT IS BEST FOR AMERICA. FOR AMERICA. IF THERE IS A WAY TO BRING
[00:01:58] IF THERE IS A WAY TO BRING CANADA ALONG WITH THAT, WE'RE CANADA ALONG WITH THAT, WE'RE HAPPY TO DO THAT. HAPPY TO DO THAT. >> Reporter: BUT GREER SAYS
[00:02:02] >> Reporter: BUT GREER SAYS THERE IS STILL A BIG GAP BETWEEN THERE IS STILL A BIG GAP BETWEEN BOTH SIDES AND WARNS SHOULD BOTH SIDES AND WARNS SHOULD CANADA
[00:02:05] CANADA RETALIATE WHEN NEW TARIFFS TAKE RETALIATE WHEN NEW TARIFFS TAKE EFFECT NEXT WEEK, THERE EFFECT NEXT WEEK, THERE WILL BE REPERCUSSIONS.
[00:02:09] WILL BE REPERCUSSIONS. >> IF A COUNTRY RETALIATES >> IF A COUNTRY RETALIATES AGAINST US, WE'RE OBVIOUSLY NOT AGAINST US, WE'RE OBVIOUSLY NOT GOING TO TOLERATE THAT AND WILL
[00:02:13] GOING TO TOLERATE THAT AND WILL TAKE ACTION. TAKE ACTION. MY SENSE IS THE CANADIANS WANT A MY SENSE IS THE CANADIANS WANT A MORE CONCILIATORY APPROACH.
[00:02:17] MORE CONCILIATORY APPROACH. BUT WE'LL SEE. BUT WE'LL SEE. >> Reporter: GREER LEFT FOR THE
[00:02:21] IOWA STATE FAIR TO PROMOTE THE ADMINISTRATION'S PRO-TARIFF ADMINISTRATION'S PRO-TARIFF PUSH, BUT NOT EVERYONE HERE IS PUSH, BUT NOT EVERYONE HERE IS BUYING IT.
[00:02:25] BUYING IT. >> THIS POLICY HAS BEEN VERY >> THIS POLICY HAS BEEN VERY CHAOTIC. CHAOTIC. >> Reporter: THE HEAD OF IOWA'S
[00:02:29] >> Reporter: THE HEAD OF IOWA'S FARMERS' UNION SAYS TARIFFS HAVE FARMERS' UNION SAYS TARIFFS HAVE DRIVEN UP COSTS AND HURT DRIVEN UP COSTS AND HURT BUSINESS.
[00:02:32] BUSINESS. >> WE'VE LOST MANY INTERNATIONAL
[00:02:35] CUSTOMERS OF OURS WHO NO LONGER SEE US AS RELIABLE TRADE SEE US AS RELIABLE TRADE PARTNERS AND THEY'RE GOING TO
[00:02:38] PARTNERS AND THEY'RE GOING TO COUNTRIES WHERE THEY HAVE A MORE COUNTRIES WHERE THEY HAVE A MORE PREDICTABLE TRADE POLICY. PREDICTABLE TRADE POLICY. >> Reporter: ON FRIDAY
[00:02:42] >> Reporter: ON FRIDAY U.S.-CANADA TRADE MINISTER U.S.-CANADA TRADE MINISTER DOMINIC LeBLANC
[00:02:46] BRIEFED THE PROVINCES AND TERRITORIES SAYING AMERICANS ARE TERRITORIES SAYING AMERICANS ARE DIGGING IN AND NOT BUDGING FROM
[00:02:49] DIGGING IN AND NOT BUDGING FROM THEIR POSITIONS ON SECTORAL THEIR POSITIONS ON SECTORAL TARIFFS AND IRRITANTS LIKE
[00:02:52] TARIFFS AND IRRITANTS LIKE CANADA'S DAIRY QUOTA SYSTEM. CANADA'S DAIRY QUOTA SYSTEM. >> THERE IS A BLITZ IN
[00:02:55] >> THERE IS A BLITZ IN WASHINGTON, D.C., AND WE NEED TO WASHINGTON, D.C., AND WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE FEDERAL
[00:02:57] MAKE SURE THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WILL NOT PUT FORWARD GOVERNMENT WILL NOT PUT FORWARD THE IDEA OF MODIFYING THE SUPPLY
[00:03:00] THE IDEA OF MODIFYING THE SUPPLY MANAGEMENT FOR THE DAIRY SYSTEM. MANAGEMENT FOR THE DAIRY SYSTEM. >> Reporter: A BIPARTISAN >> Reporter: A BIPARTISAN ADVISORY COMMITTEE ALSO BRIEFED
[00:03:05] ADVISORY COMMITTEE ALSO BRIEFED AND WARNED TO AND WARNED TO PREPARE FOR EITHER A DEAL OR PREPARE FOR EITHER A DEAL OR ANOTHER TARIFF SHOCK.
[00:03:09] ANOTHER TARIFF SHOCK. >> CANADA WILL WEATHER THIS >> CANADA WILL WEATHER THIS STORM. STORM. WE'RE FACING THE STORM HEAD ON
[00:03:12] WE'RE FACING THE STORM HEAD ON AND TRYING TO NAVIGATE THROUGH AND TRYING TO NAVIGATE THROUGH THE HURRICANE OF THE TRUMP THE HURRICANE OF THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION.
[00:03:16] ADMINISTRATION. >> Reporter: PEOPLE WHO WERE IN >> Reporter: PEOPLE WHO WERE IN THE BRIEFING SAY THE AMERICANS
[00:03:19] THE BRIEFING SAY THE AMERICANS AREN'T WILLING TO SIGNIFICANTLY AREN'T WILLING TO SIGNIFICANTLY LOWER SECTORAL TARIFFS AND
[00:03:22] LOWER SECTORAL TARIFFS AND THAT THEIR POSITION HASN'T REALLY CHANGED OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF DAYS.
[00:03:26] OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF DAYS. THERE ARE SOME SECTORS THAT THEY THERE ARE SOME SECTORS THAT THEY ARE WILLING TO REDUCE, FOR ARE WILLING TO REDUCE, FOR EXAMPLE, ON AUTO THEY'RE WILLING
[00:03:30] EXAMPLE, ON AUTO THEY'RE WILLING TO GO TO GO DOWN TO 12.5% BUT FOR CANADA DOWN TO 12.5% BUT FOR CANADA THAT'S NOT GOOD ENOUGH.
[00:03:34] It's in the middle of a busy season on a central Alberta bee
[00:03:37] yard, right in the heart of Canada's
[00:03:40] largest honey producing province. But in just a few
[00:03:43] days, local producers are bracing for
[00:03:45] a big sting, a 50% US tariff on honey that
[00:03:48] would effectively close off their biggest export market.
[00:03:51] Lauren Prince runs Gull Lake Honey,
[00:03:53] an operation about 130 kilometers southwest of
[00:03:56] Edmonton.
[00:03:59] Yes, so there's still some honey
[00:04:01] potential here. Wet weather has already hurt this year's crop,
[00:04:04] and the August 19th proposed tariff deadline is another
[00:04:07] heavy blow to producers. We already had some stress about
[00:04:10] the quantity of honey we were going to produce this year.
[00:04:15] We always have the stress of increased operating cost. And
[00:04:19] now to even consider the possibility of our honey prices
[00:04:23] being squashed by US tariffs, it's one more frustration. the
[00:04:27] US administration threatened the levy last month,
[00:04:30] setting what it describes as Canada's discriminatory trade
[00:04:34] practices. To the industry surprise,
[00:04:37] honey made the list of targeted goods. Though Prince says
[00:04:41] locally losing the number one purchaser of exports,
[00:04:44] he expects domestic prices
[00:04:46] will plummet. It will strand an enormous amount of honey on the
[00:04:50] prairies.
[00:04:51] It could be really, really damaging to our our
[00:04:55] price this year. It's a feeling echoed by this Lacombe County
[00:04:59] beekeeper Jeremy Olthoff, as years of difficult weather
[00:05:03] already weigh on local producers. It's definitely an
[00:05:07] added stress, especially the last few years
[00:05:10] we've it has been tough for, for the industry. So it's just
[00:05:14] another added stress that is on our minds. Like although
[00:05:18] several hundreds of beekeepers send around 70% of Canada's
[00:05:23] honey
[00:05:24] exports to the US and that probably increased dramatically
[00:05:27] here in the last two weeks. The reason ROTC Scarlett with the
[00:05:31] Canadian Honey Council says currently honey producers are
[00:05:35] scrambling to get as much honey across the border before the
[00:05:38] tariff kicks in. the US Packers were quite worried that they
[00:05:42] wouldn't be able to get Canadian honey. They moved up
[00:05:46] their contract delivery dates and prices. But that market
[00:05:49] effectively closing this industry advocates says it
[00:05:53] would be catastrophic
[00:05:54] the beekeeping industry here in Canada and the ripple effect
[00:05:58] she feels wouldn't stop at honey. When the beekeeping
[00:06:01] industry collapses, we have effects on pollination,
[00:06:05] we have effects on other food crops and that this isn't just
[00:06:09] a few $100 million in honey that's being affected,
[00:06:12] it's billions of dollars across the agriculture industry that
[00:06:16] would be affected by these tariffs. In a statement to CBC,
[00:06:20] a spokesperson for Trade Minister Dominic LeBlanc says
[00:06:23] Canada is engaging in
[00:06:25] intensively with the United States to address outstanding
[00:06:28] trade issues, but declined further comment
[00:06:31] while negotiations continue. If a deal isn't reached,
[00:06:34] Agriculture and Agri Food Canada points producers to
[00:06:37] existing federal safety net programs like Agri Invest to
[00:06:40] help cushion the blow back on the farm. All that's left to do
[00:06:44] now for local producers is wait, hoping a deal is reached before
[00:06:48] the clock runs out and the Hashmi. CBC News, Lacombe County.
[00:06:55] Saskatchewan's taste in alcohol is changing and no one knows
[00:06:59] that better than bogged in Angel. The manager of this
[00:07:02] Sherwood Coop liquor store has had to change what he's
[00:07:05] offering on his store shelves because customers are favoring
[00:07:09] Canadian booze. Definitely noticed that there is a trend.
[00:07:13] People are moving away from American products and they're
[00:07:16] trying to support as much as possible the Canadian wines and
[00:07:20] spirits. Also, that's not just at this store.
[00:07:22] Customers say they are making the conscious choice to buy
[00:07:26] Canadian made alcohol. Canada is an amazing country. You know,
[00:07:30] we're so diverse and it's,
[00:07:32] you know, local farmers and everything
[00:07:34] trying to help them out too. You gotta support Canadians
[00:07:38] over the US. I I personally buy a Canadian
[00:07:41] because that's just the way it is,
[00:07:42] especially with what's going on down in the States and that
[00:07:45] Saskatchewan is one of only two provinces where you can
[00:07:48] continue to buy US made alcohol on liquor store shelves. And
[00:07:52] the provinces liquor wholesaler says they've seen a 40% drop in
[00:07:55] the sale of US made alcohol over the last fiscal year.
[00:07:58] That's left businesses with a very simple choice. If
[00:08:01] something sits on her shelf too long,
[00:08:03] it's not moving. We're going to do something with it and we're
[00:08:06] going to put something in that space that is going to sell.
[00:08:09] Sherwood Coop says it wants to give customers a choice,
[00:08:12] but it's also reacting
[00:08:13] to what its customers want. We definitely notice that wines as
[00:08:17] the most penalized category so far. Bourbon,
[00:08:19] it's still keeping up and so is the beer. But wine is
[00:08:22] definitely this action that it's,
[00:08:24] it's more targeted. But providing options like American
[00:08:27] bourbon has paid off. We have it and we've had people from
[00:08:31] Manitoba coming here buy some product and thank us for having
[00:08:34] it because they can't get it in their home province. Sources
[00:08:37] have told CBC News that Ottawa is open to potentially halting
[00:08:41] booze bans as part of trade negotiations with Washington. U.
[00:08:44] S. President Donald Trump
[00:08:46] has threatened to impose more tariffs on Canada this month,
[00:08:49] partly because many provinces won't sell US made alcohol. But
[00:08:53] the data from Saskatchewan shows that even if American
[00:08:57] liquor is on store shelves, there may not be many Canadians
[00:09:01] interested in buying it. Alexander Kwan. CBC News, Regina.
[00:09:07] Montreal police are utilizing AI to help with its
[00:09:08] investigations. The tech and the way it's being used could
[00:09:12] change policing in the city moving forward. The SPVM has
[00:09:15] made it very clear they're interested in it to this
[00:09:18] technology. They're deploying this technology. A surveillance
[00:09:21] camera similar to Flock in the United States is here. It's
[00:09:24] called the Cloud Runner CRH 2 from Montreal based company
[00:09:28] Genentech. It scans license plates but can also identify
[00:09:31] the colour, make and model of vehicles. But
[00:09:33] unlike Flock, the information can only be accessed by its operator.
[00:09:37] The camera is one part of a larger software that uses AI to
[00:09:41] detect and identify vehicles. But the company says privacy is
[00:09:45] carefully monitored and that data can't be tampered with as
[00:09:49] every interaction with it is logged. You should have an
[00:09:52] expectation of reasonable privacy. However, as I said,
[00:09:56] it's a trade off. If the threat of something bad happening is
[00:10:00] high, as a community we need to say
[00:10:02] what are we comfortable with giving up? In a statement,
[00:10:06] the SPBM says that it's only using the cloud
[00:10:09] and her camera for a specific investigation and that other
[00:10:12] similar cameras could be added in the future. It is connected
[00:10:16] to the wireless network, so the cellular network. And so
[00:10:20] footage that it collects, just watching traffic,
[00:10:23] watching whatever goes on outside is then sent to,
[00:10:26] you know, a cloud service. And then
[00:10:28] artificial intelligence is used to analyze those that that
[00:10:32] footage. The SPM is also using another software called imotion
[00:10:36] Roc. It's an American software from Rank One
[00:10:39] Computing. It uses AI to track certain characteristics,
[00:10:43] among other things. It's currently on 46 urban security
[00:10:47] cameras and can even work on video collected by officers
[00:10:51] with citizen consent or warrant. Rock's ability is to look up to
[00:10:56] 8 different attributes at once. So the ability to go rapidly
[00:11:01] and look at different images, all the images at normal speed
[00:11:05] and analyze the footage so you can find something specific.
[00:11:10] Though the software has real time biometric tracking
[00:11:13] capabilities, VBM says it wouldn't use those
[00:11:15] features. It says it would focus on elements detectives
[00:11:19] already know. And we'll look for visual attributes like
[00:11:22] clothing. An internal privacy impact assessment by the SPVM
[00:11:25] obtained by CBC News acknowledges the technology
[00:11:28] poses civil liberties risks. They mentioned that it could
[00:11:32] put innocent third parties under investigation and the
[00:11:35] risk of discrimination based on visible social characteristics.
[00:11:38] This lawyer says the right to privacy is fundamental.
[00:11:42] And if we're using AI to organize, to treat, to analyze,
[00:11:47] make decisions or projections based on this data,
[00:11:53] you, the individual will lose
[00:11:55] control over is his privacy. At least in the public domain. The
[00:11:59] city's public records show a $17,
[00:12:01] 000 contract to obtain 4 Cloud Runner units over the
[00:12:04] subscription of one year. CBC News reached out to the city
[00:12:08] and asked if it had submitted a bid to obtain the Cloud Runner
[00:12:12] cameras, and it said it didn't. Levy
[00:12:14] says these technologies could be abused by law enforcement
[00:12:18] and that's why it's important for cities to be as transparent
[00:12:22] as possible. Every time
[00:12:23] camera pops up in public use without any explanation for why
[00:12:27] it's there, it's reasonable for members of
[00:12:30] the public to ask questions, why is it being used,
[00:12:33] Who is using it? What is it being used for?
[00:12:35] How are my rights being protected?
[00:12:38] Says policymakers have to catch up and set limitations on how
[00:12:41] AI technology can be used in public.
[00:12:46] It's a major victory for Ontario's premier,
[00:12:49] allowing him to leave his mark on Toronto streets,
[00:12:52] the province's highest court, clearing the way for Doug Ford
[00:12:57] to remove some of the city's most prominent bike lanes,
[00:13:00] something he's wanted to do for years. They're taking up one
[00:13:05] lane of traffic. They're backed up from here to Timbuktu. He
[00:13:09] and his transportation minister are hailing it as a victory for
[00:13:13] common sense.
[00:13:15] The ruling reverses a decision by lower court and states the
[00:13:18] province is allowed to do what it wants on all Ontario roads,
[00:13:22] regardless of expert advice. Consistently,
[00:13:24] what the premier was told, and the minister as well from
[00:13:28] the moment this legislation was first being discussed,
[00:13:31] was that bike lanes do not cause traffic congestion and
[00:13:34] ripping them out will put people's lives at risk. The
[00:13:37] lower court decision last summer blocked Ford's moves
[00:13:40] based on internal Ministry of Transportation documents that
[00:13:43] showed experts telling the province
[00:13:46] that removing bike lanes could increase Rd. collisions without
[00:13:50] meaningfully reducing traffic. But the appeals court judges
[00:13:54] say, quote this point is fundamental.
[00:13:57] The government is free to accept some,
[00:14:00] all or none of the advice it receives,
[00:14:02] and the previous ruling inflates the negative effects
[00:14:06] of removing the bicycle lanes.
[00:14:10] The province won't say when removals might begin. Toronto
[00:14:14] Mayor Olivia Chao says she's still trying to work with
[00:14:18] Ontario to find a compromise that would keep some of those
[00:14:22] lanes operational. Lane Harrison. CBC News Toronto.
[00:16:37] It's not always easy to figure out how massive wildfires start,
[00:16:41] but there are some significant clues early on. When there's
[00:16:45] not a clear lightning source, then it automatically,
[00:16:49] for the most part, is human. The devastating Bald
[00:16:53] Range fire is considered suspicious. A few days after it
[00:16:57] lit, the BC Wildfire Service sounded
[00:16:59] the alarm over people intentionally starting fires.
[00:17:03] We are extremely concerned about intentionally set
[00:17:07] wildfires anywhere in the province at anytime,
[00:17:10] but given the conditions that we continue to speak of,
[00:17:14] we are obviously more concerned right now. According to the BC
[00:17:18] Wildfire Service, of nearly 15, 000 wildfires over the past 10
[00:17:23] years, 560 of them were classified as
[00:17:25] arson or suspicious. That's about 4% of all wildfires. The
[00:17:29] Wildfire service calls these incendiary fires defined as
[00:17:33] fires intentionally ignited in an area or under circumstances
[00:17:38] where and when there should not be a fire.
[00:17:41] A Cologne. A man was recently sentenced to 21 months in
[00:17:44] prison for starting the Knox Mountain fire last year. Police
[00:17:48] suspect 5 brush fires near Shoe Swap Lake were intentionally
[00:17:52] lit earlier this month. When people become aware of the
[00:17:56] potential for aggressive fire behavior,
[00:17:58] it also coincides with increase in arson. So there's a
[00:18:02] correlation there between. This expert says the most
[00:18:05] devastating examples can be seen South of the border,
[00:18:09] most recently in Spokane, where a suspect faces five
[00:18:12] first degree arson charges leading to fires that burned
[00:18:16] more than 800 homes, highlighting just how
[00:18:18] destructive intentional fires can be. It's very,
[00:18:21] very serious. When you have incendiary devices,
[00:18:24] you're dealing with kind of things that behave like
[00:18:28] explosives.
[00:18:29] Those are almost always near or around communities. And so
[00:18:33] they're mixing with fuels that you that are highly hazardous.
[00:18:37] The cause of the Bald Range fire is still under
[00:18:40] investigation. Police at the mercy of the flames,
[00:18:43] which are still raging out of control. John Hernandez,
[00:18:47] CBC News, Vancouver.
[00:18:54] It's a gathering on the shores of Okanogan Lake,
[00:18:57] a prayer for much needed rain. The Okanagan Nation Alliance
[00:19:00] coming together while thousands of people across the province
[00:19:04] have been forced from their home.
[00:19:07] We need more water. So it was nice that we came to pray for
[00:19:11] the water and the rain and everyone,
[00:19:14] not just ourselves here in the North Okanogan. Some are
[00:19:18] finally able to return home, but many living on Okanagan
[00:19:23] Indian Band land still remain on evacuation order as the
[00:19:27] Bradley Creek wildfire continues to smolder. Others
[00:19:31] have no home to return to. And it's not just the homes lost,
[00:19:35] it's what they contained. There were really well made
[00:19:40] wife had some baskets that were given to her by her mother and
[00:19:46] her great grandmother. And I can't really
[00:19:51] think of how valuable or it's not the money thing on it. It's
[00:19:55] just losing such a precious
[00:19:58] things. Hundreds of homes on Okanagan Indian Band land were
[00:20:02] burned in the fire, with exact numbers to be
[00:20:05] announced in the coming days. But Louis says more than the
[00:20:09] loss of material possessions, their watershed, forests,
[00:20:13] forage and harvesting areas have all been destroyed,
[00:20:16] which will take decades, if not longer,
[00:20:19] to recover. Louis worked in forestry and as a firefighter
[00:20:23] and has watched as climate change has impacted his
[00:20:26] homeland. I'm not worried for myself. I'm worried for that
[00:20:30] people who's going to be
[00:20:32] here long term because you're looking at all of our
[00:20:36] watersheds all burnt off. The house and garden belonging to
[00:20:40] his sister Dora Louis Alexis were spared and are now
[00:20:44] providing a haven for animals. Right now we're not there and
[00:20:48] it's OK for the chickens and other animals that deer and
[00:20:53] everything to come and eat because they're habitat is
[00:20:57] being burnt out. Also, her grandson is a firefighter
[00:21:00] and has been updating her on the status of her property.
[00:21:06] For many, it's still a wait and see
[00:21:09] situation with no timeline on when the evacuation orders
[00:21:12] might be lifted. Jacqueline Delano, CBC News, Vernon.
[00:21:19] Wildfires are burning across BC and homes have been destroyed.
[00:21:23] So what do you do if you found out you've lost everything?
[00:21:26] The first step would be to contact your insurance company
[00:21:29] and get that process started. Experts say if you have home
[00:21:33] insurance, you're likely covered for
[00:21:35] wildfire damage and will be reimbursed for living expenses.
[00:21:38] Things like hotel rooms, things like food where you're
[00:21:42] forced outside your home, things like a rental car if you
[00:21:45] don't have access to your vehicle, taxis,
[00:21:47] things like that, clothing, household items.
[00:21:50] But the process to rebuild can be a long one. It's multiple
[00:21:53] steps and it's a real exercise in patience. But it took two
[00:21:57] years for Antique Goyer to rebuild from the McDougall
[00:22:00] Creek wildfire near West Kelowna in 2023. Before the
[00:22:03] fire hit, she and her husband videotaped
[00:22:05] the layouts and contents of their entire house,
[00:22:08] a key step that helped document their losses with the insurance
[00:22:12] company. We were able to go through each room and then
[00:22:15] freeze the video and write down all the things that we saw and,
[00:22:19] and it it's an endless process. But without the videos, you're,
[00:22:22] you're relying on memories. For people like de Goyer,
[00:22:25] insurance covered nearly everything except for things
[00:22:28] like utilities, which she says she would have
[00:22:31] paid for anyway if her house didn't burn down. But what if
[00:22:34] you don't have insurance? When you come home and there's
[00:22:37] nothing left standing and everything is leveled,
[00:22:39] you don't know where to start. In 2021,
[00:22:41] Litton and the surrounding areas were devastated,
[00:22:44] flames destroying almost everything,
[00:22:46] including the home of Trisha Thorpe. We did not have
[00:22:49] insurance. We were outside of Fire Protection
[00:22:51] and we had wood heat. My situation is actually not
[00:22:54] unique across this province. Many in the community couldn't
[00:22:59] afford insurance or didn't qualify Thorpe relying on
[00:23:02] charities, nonprofit organizations and
[00:23:05] others to rebuild. We had a lot of help from community,
[00:23:08] from friends, from my family, or we never would have been
[00:23:12] able to do it. The the resources aren't there for
[00:23:16] people who lose their homes, at least not from a government
[00:23:20] perspective. In my opinion.
[00:23:22] Macy's Emergency Support Services program provides short
[00:23:25] term help. People can access food, clothing and shelter,
[00:23:28] but when it comes to long term recovery,
[00:23:30] that support differs on the event and eventually can run
[00:23:33] out. It is something that all of us need to spend a few
[00:23:36] minutes every year just to make sure we have the financial
[00:23:39] protection in place for our family and for what is likely
[00:23:42] the biggest financial asset we own,
[00:23:44] which is our home. With officials still assessing
[00:23:46] damage and wildfire season not over yet,
[00:23:49] experts are reminding everyone to review their coverage and plan head.
[00:23:56] Another brutal summer for wildfires and a growing
[00:23:59] shortage of a key tool can add air. Water bombers manufactured
[00:24:03] in Canada. We are under pressure. We know that this is
[00:24:07] a very important aircraft. For consecutive summers,
[00:24:10] politicians lament the lack of water bombers. We could use
[00:24:14] every water bomber we can get our hands on. One solution is a
[00:24:18] second production line, which is possible with federal
[00:24:21] government support, a move that could create a
[00:24:24] national fleet of firefighting aircraft.
[00:24:27] The world is burning up.
[00:24:29] We need equipment to be able to fight those fires and fight
[00:24:32] those fires effectively.
[00:24:38] The iconic yellow and red water bombers,
[00:24:41] nicknamed the Super Scooper, are prominent in the
[00:24:44] firefighting battle in Europe, the large Canadian amphibious
[00:24:48] aircraft repeatedly swooping down to fill up before dropping
[00:24:52] it all to douse flames, sometimes operating as a
[00:24:56] squadron to magnify their impact.
[00:24:59] You marry them, this French resident saying. I
[00:25:02] saw the flames coming, I saw the can add air. So I
[00:25:05] think it's thanks to them and surely the firefighters too.
[00:25:08] All the houses in the community were saved.
[00:25:14] This Spanish pilot describing the high winds and very strong
[00:25:17] turbulence, but the Canadair is
[00:25:20] specifically designed to fly in these conditions.
[00:25:23] At the same time, these extraordinary fires in
[00:25:26] France, Spain and Greece, sparking backlash over a
[00:25:30] shortage of the aircraft's new water bombers,
[00:25:33] were ordered in 2022. But the wait continues,
[00:25:38] these planes at the centre of the burning heat on political
[00:25:42] leaders for being unprepared to tackle the extreme summer
[00:25:45] weather. A world on fire and everyone looking for new planes.
[00:25:49] Right now we're stuck in a situation where the demand is
[00:25:52] huge because when the world is looking for more water bombers,
[00:25:56] newer water bombers, and we're not ready. Every
[00:25:59] continent on the earth, from Australia to Europe,
[00:26:02] Canada water bombers have proven their effectiveness over
[00:26:05] the last 60 years.
[00:26:08] The original design dates back to the 1960s,
[00:26:11] becoming a workhorse for fighting wildfires in Canada
[00:26:15] and Europe. About 160 of the aircraft are still operating.
[00:26:19] Experts say the world could use hundreds of new water bombers
[00:26:24] to expand their firefighting power and to replace aging
[00:26:28] fleets.
[00:26:31] What the world wants is being assembled in northeast Calgary.
[00:26:36] For decades, Bombardier built the aircraft
[00:26:39] but stopped in 2015 as demand slowed. Calgary based Haviland
[00:26:43] now owns the water bomber program and began the rare step
[00:26:46] of resurrecting and modernizing production. Four years ago.
[00:26:52] The 1st 2 aircraft of the revived Canadair Water bomber
[00:26:56] beginning to take shape. The wings,
[00:26:58] nose and cockpit on schedule to be complete in early 2028. This
[00:27:02] is a very hands-on hand built aircraft,
[00:27:05] always has been and it always will be. Start over here that
[00:27:09] take as many photos as you want. There is an immense amount of
[00:27:13] pride as executive Neil Sweeney shows off the production line.
[00:27:17] Yeah, so this is so this is the
[00:27:20] inside of the wing. Canadian history,
[00:27:22] technology and manufacturing,
[00:27:24] they're part of the Canadair story. So we make about 80% of
[00:27:28] the parts for this aircraft, and here in Canada it's about
[00:27:32] 80% Canadian content. The world wants it badly. That's why the
[00:27:36] pride is also mixed with stress and scrutiny to deliver as
[00:27:39] communities are destroyed with each passing summer. We are
[00:27:43] under pressure. We know that this is a very important
[00:27:47] aircraft, not only for Canada but for the
[00:27:49] world. We take our responsibility to our customers
[00:27:52] and the people they serve very seriously. Thank you very much.
[00:27:58] Canadian premiers are also waiting. Alberta,
[00:28:01] Ontario and Manitoba all have the water bombers on order
[00:28:04] already. A few years of waiting and several more years until
[00:28:08] they arrive. The wait is why all the demand isn't
[00:28:11] translating into more firm orders. Any new order today
[00:28:15] would only be delivered about 6 years from now at the earliest.
[00:28:19] Without those firm orders though,
[00:28:21] the company is reluctant to make the investments and hiring
[00:28:25] to ramp up production. That's why Albertus Premieres pitching
[00:28:29] to Place a big
[00:28:30] murder to give enough guaranteed work for Dehaviland
[00:28:33] to build a second production line. Danielle Smith is urging
[00:28:37] her provincial counterparts to partner with Ottawa so the
[00:28:40] federal government can step up to Haviland has 38 orders
[00:28:43] already and is planning to produce about 10 aircraft per
[00:28:47] year, the company has told Ottawa
[00:28:49] Directly. Manufacturing can double if a big order is made,
[00:28:52] something they'd have to consider. But if we had an
[00:28:55] order of 50 from Canada as an example,
[00:28:58] we would build a second line tomorrow.
[00:29:01] It wouldn't be cheap for the price tag for each aircraft,
[00:29:05] an estimated $80 million.
[00:29:11] How many water bombers Canada needs is an open question.
[00:29:18] For this summer, Ottawa leased 10 airplanes and
[00:29:22] helicopters for provinces and territories to use in fighting
[00:29:26] fires. They are in high demand. There definitely have been
[00:29:30] situations where we've had to triage requests that come
[00:29:34] through when there's competing requests coming in. Planes are
[00:29:39] effective in slowing the spread of wildfires,
[00:29:42] creating perimeters and reducing heat to help ground
[00:29:46] crews. Their effectiveness can be hindered by smoke
[00:29:50] in certain terrain. They're not the silver bullet to
[00:29:54] firefighting. So
[00:29:56] while planes are the sexy part of firefighting,
[00:30:00] there's a lot of other things that we need to consider with
[00:30:05] the ongoing threat that we're seeing from wildfires today,
[00:30:11] the federal government is considering whether to launch a
[00:30:15] national fleet of modern firefighting aircraft. It's one
[00:30:18] of the recommendations from a Senate report released in June.
[00:30:22] For now, the federal government says
[00:30:24] it's in close contact with the provinces and territories to
[00:30:27] coordinate efforts and identify the best ways to support one
[00:30:30] another in the face of the growing impacts of wildfires.
[00:30:37] If production at Dehaviland does not take off to meet
[00:30:40] growing demand, there is a risk foreign
[00:30:42] companies or countries could develop their own rival
[00:30:45] firefighting aircraft. Whether it's China, whether it's Russia,
[00:30:48] whether it's France, whether it's the UK,
[00:30:51] whether it's Greece, whoever they're going to,
[00:30:54] they're going to come out and they're going to move fast and
[00:30:57] furious.
[00:31:01] The warning comes at a time when the federal government