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[00:00:27] (♪) >> Adrienne: BREAKING TONIGHT, DONALD TRUMP FIRES BACK WITH THE
[00:00:31] DRAMATIC ESCALATION OF HIS TRADE
[00:00:31] WAR AGAINST CANADA.
[00:00:36] THE SWEEPING SERIES OF NEW TRADE MEASURES TARGETING CANADIAN
[00:00:39] PRODUCTS AFTER MARK CARNEY WARNS THE COUNTRY OF A DIFFICULT ROAD AHEAD.
[00:00:43] >> Rt. Hon. Mark Carney: THERE'S
[00:00:44] ALWAYS A COST TO ACTION, BUT IT
[00:00:49] DOESN'T COME CLOSE TO THE COST OF STANDING STILL. >> Adrienne: WE HAVE COMPREHENSIVE COVERAGE WITH
[00:00:53] ANALYSIS FROM WASHINGTON AND OTTAWA, AND A SPECIAL EDITION OF "AT ISSUE" WITH THE POLITICS
[00:00:56] BEHIND THE ESCALATING TRADE WAR. PLUS THE IMPACT ON CONSUMERS
[00:01:00] ALREADY BEING FELT. >> THIS ONE HERE, FOR EXAMPLE,
[00:01:02] WENT UP FROM JUST OVER $9 TO
[00:01:04] OVER $11 NOW.
[00:01:07] >> Adrienne:HOW CANADA'S COUNTER-TARIFFS AGAINST THE U.S.
[00:01:09] COULD HIT YOUR
[00:01:12] BOTTOM LINE. >> I JUST THINK THAT IT'S GOING
[00:01:16] TO CONTINUE TO GET WORSE. >> Adrienne: WHAT ALL OF THIS MEANS FOR CANADA'S ECONOMY ALREADY UNDER SIEGE. (♪) >> Announcer: FROM CBC NEWS, THIS IS "THE NATIONAL" WITH
[00:01:19] CHIEF CORRESPONDENT ADRIENNE ARSENAULT. (♪)
[00:01:23] >> Adrienne: THANKS FOR JOINING US. >>> WELL, TONIGHT THE
[00:01:26] BLOW-FOR-BLOW TRADE WAR WITH THE U.S. HAS HIT A NEW LEVEL OF
[00:01:28] INTENSITY.
[00:01:33] WASHINGTON ANNOUNCING NOT JUST NEW TARIFFS BUT COMPLETE IMPORT BANS ON A RANGE OF
[00:01:37] CANADIAN GOODS. AMONG THE PRODUCTS, CHEESE, MOST ALCOHOL, EVEN MOTORCYCLES MADE
[00:01:40] IN CANADA.
[00:01:42] ALL PROHIBITED FOR SALE IN THE
[00:01:45] U.S. AS OF SEPTEMBER 29TH. THIS IS JUST AFTER THE PRIME
[00:01:47] MINISTER IN A MESSAGE TRIED TO BRACE THE COUNTRY FOR THE FIGHT AHEAD.
[00:01:51] AND AFTER CANADA'S COUNTER-TARIFFS ON BILLIONS WORTH OF U.S. GOODS SNAPPED INTO
[00:01:54] PLACE. SO TO BEGIN, WE TURN TO KATIE
[00:01:58] SIMPSON IN WASHINGTON WHO LEARNED THE LATEST TONIGHT ON A
[00:02:02] CALL WITH THE SENIOR WHITE HOUSE OFFICIAL.
[00:02:06] SO, KATIE, LET'S START WITH WHAT WE KNOW ABOUT THIS LATEST MOVE. >> Reporter: IT'S A SHARP
[00:02:09] ESCALATION. CONSIDER IT A NEW FRONT IN THIS TRADE WAR. THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION
[00:02:13] ORDERING THREE SIGNIFICANT MOVES HERE.
[00:02:16] ONE, A BAN ON IMPORTING SOME CANADIAN GOODS, INCLUDING MOST
[00:02:19] CANADIAN ALCOHOL PRODUCTS. BILLIONS OF DOLLARS WORTH.
[00:02:21] AS WELL AS MOTORCYCLES.
[00:02:26] TWO, ATTEMPTING TO LIMIT THE PURCHASE OF CANADIAN GOODS BY THE U.S. GOVERNMENT.
[00:02:29] AND, THREE, THERE'S A SHIFT -- CHANGES TO SOME OF THE PRODUCTS THAT THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION
[00:02:33] HIT WITH 50% TARIFFS. THE PRODUCT BANS ARE SET TO
[00:02:36] BEGIN IN THREE WEEKS. THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION IS
[00:02:39] JUSTIFYING THE MOVE BY SAYING
[00:02:42] CANADA CONTINUES TO DISCRIMINATE AGAINST CERTAIN AMERICAN GOODS
[00:02:44] AND SECTORS. SECTION 338 OF THE TARIFF ACT TO
[00:02:48] GET ALL TECHNICAL ABOUT IT.
[00:02:50] IT'S THE SAME JUSTIFICATION FOR THOSE SWEEPING 50% TARIFFS THAT
[00:02:53] KICKED IN LAST MONTH. SOME NEW CANADIAN GOODS ARE
[00:02:56] BEING HIT BY TARIFFS AS WELL. MATTRESSES, LAMPS, MOTOR BOATS
[00:03:00] AND GOLF CARTS AND BAMBOO FURNITURE.
[00:03:04] SOME ITEMS ARE COMING OFF OF THE LIST, CEMENT AND ROAD SALT AND
[00:03:06] CERTAIN HOSPITAL PRODUCTS.
[00:03:08] WHEN YOU ADD IT ALL UP, IT IS A CLEAR SIGN THIS DISPUTE IS
[00:03:11] INTENSIFYING.
[00:03:15] THE U.S. MAKING AN EXAMPLE OF CANADA -- WHAT HAPPENS WHEN A
[00:03:18] COUNTRY RETALIATES. SENIOR TRUMP ADMINISTRATION
[00:03:20] OFFICIALS TOLD REPORTERS, INCLUDING MYSELF, IT'S A WAY TO
[00:03:23] LEVEL THE PLAYING FIELD. >> Adrienne: SO, KATIE, AS I
[00:03:26] UNDERSTAND IT DURING THAT PHONE CALL YOU GOT A QUESTION IN WITH
[00:03:30] THE SENIOR WHITE HOUSE OFFICIAL. WHAT DID YOU ASK, AND WHAT DID THEY SAY?
[00:03:33] >> Reporter: YEAH, I ASKED ABOUT CUSMA, THE CANADA-U.S.-MEXICO
[00:03:36] TRADE AGREEMENT, THE ONE THAT ALL THREE COUNTRIES STILL NEED TO RENEW.
[00:03:40] I ASKED WHETHER THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION PLANS TO EXIT THE
[00:03:43] DEAL BY GIVING A SIX-MONTH WARNING THAT IT WANTS OUT.
[00:03:47] THE SENIOR OFFICIAL DOWNPLAYED THAT POSSIBILITY, SAYING THAT
[00:03:49] THERE ARE ISSUES WITH THE AGREEMENT THAT THE U.S. WANTS TO
[00:03:53] CHANGE, CERTAIN POLICIES AROUND
[00:03:56] THE AUTO SECTOR SPECIFICALLY. BUT FOR NOW THE TARIFFS THAT THE U.S. IS IMPOSING ON STEEL AND
[00:04:00] ALUMINUM AND THE AUTO SECTOR -- THAT IS VIEWED BY THE WHITE
[00:04:04] HOUSE AS A WAY TO REMEDY THOSE AMERICAN CONCERNS.
[00:04:07] WHILE CANADA VERY MUCH WANTS TO KEEP THIS DEAL ALIVE IT URGENTLY WANTS THOSE TARIFFS TO COME TO
[00:04:11] AN END. >> Adrienne: ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. THAT'S KATIE SIMPSON IN
[00:04:14] WASHINGTON TONIGHT.
[00:04:17] >>> OKAY, SO NOW LET'S GO RIGHT TO PETER ARMSTRONG HERE IN STUDIO. I KNOW THAT YOU HAVE BEEN
[00:04:21] READING THE DOCUMENT AND I KNOW THAT YOU HAVE BEEN TEXTING WITH BUSINESS LEADERS.
[00:04:25] JUST FROM LOOKING AT IT FROM AFAR, DEFINITELY AN ESCALATION,
[00:04:28] BUT IT ALSO FEELS LIKE A SHIFT IN TACTICS.
[00:04:30] >> Reporter: I THINK THAT IS A
[00:04:33] GREAT WAY OF PUTTING IT. AND IT IS NOT JUST IN TACTICS BUT THE
[00:04:37] TOOLS THAT THEY'RE USING, RIGHT?
[00:04:38] THEY'RE TRYING TO FIND WAYS OF
[00:04:41] SQUEEZING THE CANADIAN CANADIAN GOVERNMENT. AND IT'S NOT JUST TARIFFS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ANYMORE.
[00:04:45] WE'RE ADDING IN BANS AND EXCLUSIONS AND IT STARTED --
[00:04:46] REMEMBER THE BOMBARDIER THREAT
[00:04:51] TO PREVENT THE SALE OF BOMBARDIER PLANES, THAT WAS ON MONDAY. AND THIS AFTERNOON THEY WERE
[00:04:53] TALKING ABOUT EXCLUDING CANADIAN GOVERNMENTS FROM SOME GOVERNMENT
[00:04:56] PROCUREMENT. NOW WE'RE GETTING A LIST OF OUTRIGHT BANS AND OUTRIGHT
[00:04:59] EXCLUSIONS.
[00:05:02] IT REALLY DOES SORT OF DRAG THIS
[00:05:06] CONFLICT INTO A WHOLE NEW CATEGORY AND A SUITE OF TACTICS THAT THE U.S.
[00:05:09] GOVERNMENT CAN USE TO TRY TO LEVERAGE THE CANADIAN GOVERNMENT
[00:05:12] INTO MAKING DIFFERENT DECISIONS. >> Adrienne: CAN YOU HELP ME TO UNDERSTAND IF A HUGE LIST ALSO TRANSLATES TO A HUGE IMPACT? >> Reporter: IT DOESN'T
[00:05:16] NECESSARILY. AND IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTICE THAT.
[00:05:19] AND WHERE IT WASN'T A HUGE IMPACT IN THE FIRST TRANCHE OF TARIFFS AND WHERE IT HIT, IT HIT
[00:05:23] HARD. I HAVE BEEN TALKING TO PEOPLE
[00:05:26] WHO SAY ALUMINUM IMPORTERS THAT
[00:05:28] USE ALUMINUM DERIVATIVES, THEY
[00:05:31] ARE GO GOIN GOING TO FEEL THIS.
[00:05:37] BUT NOT EVERYONE WILL. BUT IT'S THE UNCERTAINTY. AND IT'S THE SENSE THAT WE'RE INTO THIS ESCALATORY CYCLE THAT WE TALKED ABOUT WHEN THE TALKS FELL APART. IF THAT SORT OF CONTINUES,
[00:05:41] THAT'S THE REAL TROUBLE.
[00:05:43] IT'S NOT JUST THE INDIVIDUAL
[00:05:46] TARIFF CODE OR THE SPECIFIC
[00:05:48] PRODUCT, IT IS THE SENSE THAT WE'RE IN AN ESCALATORY CYCLE AND
[00:05:52] THOSE CAN BE REALLY HARD TO FIND YOUR WAY OUT OF IT. >> Adrienne: BUT THE OPTIMIST
[00:05:53] SAYS, AH-HA, THERE'S A FEW WEEKS
[00:05:56] UNTIL THESE COME INTO EFFECT AND SURELY THAT'S A WINDOW THAT WILL
[00:05:59] MAKE A DIFFERENCE? >> Reporter: HOPEFULLY IT WILL BE.
[00:06:03] AND HOPEFULLY WE HAVE FOUND OUT THAT
[00:06:06] THEY'VE BEEN TALKING MORE THAN WE THINK THAT WE KNEW LEADING INTO. THIS BUT IT'S REALLY DIFFICULT TO CARVE AWAY OUT OF THAT ESCALATORY CYCLE. AND, YOU KNOW, YOU LOOK AT EVERY
[00:06:10] STEP THAT'S BEEN TAKEN SPECIFICALLY IN THE LAST 24
[00:06:13] HOURS, AND EVERY STEP IS A STEP FURTHER FROM WHERE WE WERE, AND,
[00:06:17] YEAH, THE DEAL FELL APART BUT THERE WAS BROAD AGREEMENT ON
[00:06:19] WHAT THAT DEAL COULD BE AND BOTH SIDES HAD A SENSE THAT IT WAS
[00:06:21] REACHABLE. WE ARE VERY FAR FROM THAT TABLE
[00:06:24] TONIGHT AND EVERY STEP THAT WE HAVE TAKEN REALLY PUSHES US
[00:06:26] FURTHER FROM IT.
[00:06:29] >> Adrienne:OKAY, SUFFICE IT TO SAY, MORE TO COME. PETER ARMSTRONG, THANK YOU.
[00:06:33] >> Reporter: YOU BET. >> Adrienne: SO NOW LET'S TURN
[00:06:37] TO OTTAWA AND ASHLEY BURKE. SO, ASHLEY, SO FAR WHAT ARE WE HEARING IN REACTION TO THE ESCALATION FROM THE U.S.?
[00:06:40] >> Reporter: WELL, ADRIENNE, THE CANADA-U.S. TRADE MINISTER
[00:06:43] IS CALLING THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION'S LATEST MOVES
[00:06:46] UNJUSTIFIED. DOMINIC LeBLANC SAYS THEY'RE ASSESSING THE AMERICAN MEASURES
[00:06:50] AND WHEN THE U.S. IS READY TO ENGAGE, OUR GOVERNMENT WILL WORK
[00:06:53] IN GOOD-FAITH CONSTRUCTIVELY
[00:06:56] TOWARDS A MORE SECURE AND MUTUALLY BENEFICIAL TRADING
[00:06:59] RELATIONSHIP THAT FULLY RESPECTS CANADIAN SOVEREIGNTY. EARLIER THE PRIME MINISTER MADE
[00:07:02] IT CLEAR THAT THIS TRADE WAR
[00:07:04] WON'T BE EASY.
[00:07:08] HOURS BEFORE THE U.S. ANNOUNCED ITS OWN ESCALATION, THE PRIME
[00:07:10] MINISTER RELEASED HIS OWN VIDEO
[00:07:12] TO SEND A MESSAGE DIRECTLY TO CANADIANS.
[00:07:16] >> Rt. Hon. Mark Carney: WE CAN'T LET AMERICAN GOODS INTO CANADA TARIFF FREE. >> Reporter: MARK CARNEY
[00:07:18] DEFENDED HIS COUNTER-TARIFFS THAT PROVOKED DONALD TRUMP. >> Rt. Hon. Mark Carney: I DON'T
[00:07:22] BELIEVE IN ESCALATING THE CONFLICT. THAT'S NOT CONSTRUCTIVE.
[00:07:26] BUT OUR TARIFFS ARE NECESSARY TO PROTECT OUR WORKERS, PROTECT OUR
[00:07:29] COMPANIES, AND OUR COMMUNITIES. >> Reporter: IN THE VIDEO,
[00:07:33] CARNEY WENT BACK IN HISTORY TO SHOW HOW CANADA OVERCAME
[00:07:36] AMERICAN THREATS BEFORE AND PLANS TO AGAIN TODAY BY BECOMING
[00:07:39] LESS RELIANT ON THE U.S. >> Rt. Hon. Mark Carney: WE HAVE
[00:07:43] EVERYTHING THAT WE NEED TO PIVOT
[00:07:44] AND PROSPER.
[00:07:47] THAT PIVOT WILL COME AT A COST. THERE'S ALWAYS A COST TO ACTION.
[00:07:51] BUT IT DOESN'T COME CLOSE TO THE
[00:07:52] COST OF STANDING STILL.
[00:07:55] >> QUÉBEC WILL NOT BACK DOWN IN
[00:07:57] THE FACE OF TRUMP.
[00:08:00] >> Reporter:THEY ANNOUNCED A
[00:08:01] BAN ON IMPORTS, INCLUDING DARE
[00:08:05] PRODUCTS. >> ANY BANS ON EXPORTS THAT WE
[00:08:07] DO HAVE, HOWEVER SMALL THEY ARE,
[00:08:10] HAVE A TRICKLE-DOWN EFFECT FROM
[00:08:12] THE PROCESSORS TO US, THE DAIRY FARMER.
[00:08:15] >> Reporter: DONALD TRUMP ALSO ADDED MORE CANADIAN PRODUCTS TO
[00:08:18] HIS LIST OF 50% TARIFFS FOR THE
[00:08:20] FIRST TIME AND TOOK OTHERS OFF.
[00:08:23] >> THAT WOULD BE EXTREMELY PAINFUL FOR MANUFACTURERS OF
[00:08:26] THOSE PRODUCTS BUT I FOUND IT VERY INTERESTING ALSO THAT THE
[00:08:28] UNITED STATES REMOVED QUIETLY A NUMBER OF PRODUCTS THAT THEY HIT
[00:08:32] JUST A FEW WEEKS AGO, INCLUDING CEMENT.
[00:08:35] >> QUÉBEC WILL NOT BACK DOWN IN THE FACE OF TRUMP.
[00:08:39] >> Reporter: QUÉBEC'S PREMIER WAS ALREADY WARNING OF HARD TIMES AHEAD BEFORE THE TRUMP
[00:08:42] ADMINISTRATION'S LATEST MOVE TO BAN CERTAIN IMPORTS.
[00:08:45] >> WE WILL USE EVERY TOOL
[00:08:48] AVAILABLE TO THE STATE TO BUY
[00:08:49] MORE QUÉBEC-MADE PRODUCTS. >> THE PRESIDENT IS CLEARLY
[00:08:53] UNHINGED. >> Reporter: B.C.'S PREMIER ALSO UNVEILED HIS NEW SIGNS AT THE
[00:08:57] BORDER, SAYING THAT CANADA WILL
[00:08:58] NEVER BE THE 51ST STATE.
[00:09:02] >> NOW IN THIS MOMENT WE'RE ASKING PEOPLE TO THINK CAREFULLY
[00:09:05] ABOUT WHERE YOU SPEND YOUR DOLLARS.
[00:09:06] AND THAT'S WHY YOU WILL SOON SEE
[00:09:09] A REFRESHED CAMPAIGN, ENCOURAGING PEOPLE TO BUY B.C.
[00:09:13] >> Reporter: AS THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT ASSESSES TRUMP'S LATEST MOVES IT'S CONTINUING TO
[00:09:17] FACE CALLS FROM THE CONSERVATIVES TO BE MORE TRANSPARENT AND RECALL
[00:09:20] PARLIAMENT EARLY.
[00:09:21] >> Adrienne: SO, ASHLEY, THAT
[00:09:26] POINT WHERE ARE THESE TRADE TALK?
[00:09:30] >> Reporter: HE'S IN TALK WITH HIS AMERICAN COUNTERPART
[00:09:33] JAMIESON GREER BUT SO FAR THERE'S NO SIGN OF THEM GETTING BACK TO THE TABLE AS THEY LOOK
[00:09:37] INTO THE IMPACT OF TRUMP'S LATEST ACTIONS.
[00:09:41] >> Adrienne: ASHLEY BURKE IN OTTAWA. SO NOW LET'S TURN TO CHIEF
[00:09:44] POLITICAL CORRESPONDENT ROSEMARY BARTON, ALSO IN OTTAWA.
[00:09:47] ROSIE, WHERE DOES THIS LEAVE THE
[00:09:49] PRIME MINISTER AND THE
[00:09:53] GOVERNMENT.
[00:09:59] >> Rosemary: CANADIANS LARGELY SUPPORT HOW HE HANDLED THINGS AND THE FACT THAT HE WALKED AWAY
[00:10:03] FROM THE TALKS ENTIRELY. BUT WHAT YOU SAW IN THE VIDEO FROM THE PRIME MINISTER WAS A
[00:10:06] COUPLE OF THINGS. AGAIN, TRYING TO SHAPE THE NARRATIVE AROUND WHAT THE
[00:10:10] AMERICANS WANTED AND HOW MUCH THEY WERE ASKING FOR AND I WAS
[00:10:13] REALLY STRUCK BY A LINE THAT WAS USED BY THE PRIME MINISTER WHERE
[00:10:15] HE SAID THAT U.S. WANTED DEPENDENCY, AND NOT A TRUE
[00:10:19] ECONOMIC PARTNERSHIP. SO HE SEES THESE COUNTER-TARIFFS
[00:10:22] NOT AS AN ESCALATION ON HIS PART
[00:10:24] BUT AS A NECESSARY RESPONSE.
[00:10:27] SECONDLY, THE RECOGNITION BY THE P.M. THAT THINGS ARE GOING TO GET MUCH MORE DIFFICULT FOR
[00:10:31] CANADIANS HERE AND WITH THIS RESPONSE FROM THE U.S. TONIGHT, THAT WILL CUT DEEPER.
[00:10:34] THERE HAS BEEN ECONOMIC SUPPORT FROM THE GOVERNMENT. AND THERE WILL BE MORE.
[00:10:37] BUT THIS DECISION IS NOT GOING TO COME WITHOUT SOME ECONOMIC
[00:10:40] PAIN FOR CONSUMERS AND BUSINESSES AS YOU HEARD FROM PETER.
[00:10:43] CERTAINLY, JOB LOSSES. AND WITH WASHINGTON GOING TO
[00:10:46] IMPORT BANS NOW, WE DON'T REALLY
[00:10:49] KNOW HOW MUCH FURTHER THIS IS GOING TO GO.
[00:10:51] CANADIANS MAY BE ON SIDE FOR NOW
[00:10:54] LONG THAT PATIENCE WILL LAST AND
[00:10:59] HOW LONG SOME OF THESE POLICIES THAT
[00:11:01] THE GOVERNMENT IS PUTTING IN PLACE WILL TAKE TO SHOW UP IN THE CANADIAN ECONOMY AND IN THEIR OWN LIVES.
[00:11:05] >> Adrienne: ABSOLUTELY. ALL RIGHT, THAT IS CHIEF POLITICAL CORRESPONDENT ROSEMARY BARTON JOINING US FROM OTTAWA.
[00:11:08] AND ROSIE WILL BE BACK ALONG WITH A SPECIAL EDITION OF "AT
[00:11:11] ISSUE" AND IT'S THE FIRST OF THE SEASON SPECIFICALLY TO TACKLE
[00:11:14] THIS LATEST ESCALATION AND THE POLITICS OF THIS TRADE WAR.
[00:11:16] THAT IS COMING UP.
[00:11:20] >>> SO IT'S A GOOD MOMENT TO BRING IN RALPH GOODALE, A MEMBER
[00:11:21] OF THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE ON
[00:11:26] CANADA-U.S. ECONOMIC RELATIONS. HE IS JOINING US FROM REGINA.
[00:11:30] HE'S SEEN A LOT OF THINGS OVER TIME. AND, RALPH, I'M WONDERING THIS LIST WHEN YOU FIRST LOOK AT IT AS A LAYPERSON, IT'S HUGE AND
[00:11:32] IT'S CONFUSING.
[00:11:36] CAN YOU HELP US TO UNDERSTAND WHY SOME THINGS ARE TARGETED IN PARTICULAR AND WHAT THE MESSAGE
[00:11:39] MAY BE IN THOSE THINGS?
[00:11:43] >> IT WILL -- IT WILL TAKE A GREAT DEAL OF CAREFUL ANALYSIS, AND I'M SURE THAT WORK IS BEING
[00:11:46] DONE RIGHT NOW BY THE
[00:11:48] GOVERNMENT, BY THE PROVINCES AND
[00:11:51] BY INDUSTRY OFFICIALS.
[00:11:53] BY LABOUR ORGINISATIONS TO DETERMINE WHERE ALL OF THE PUTS
[00:11:57] AND TAKES ARE.
[00:12:00] THE MOST SEVERE PUNISHMENT SEEMS TO BE AIMED AT DAIRY AND LIQUOR
[00:12:02] AND MOTORCYCLES.
[00:12:07] BUT THERE'S SOME RELIEF ON CEMENT AND SALTS AND TOILET PAPER.
[00:12:10] IT'S GOING TO TAKE A WHILE TO
[00:12:12] MAKE SOME SENSE OF THAT -- OF
[00:12:16] THAT HODGEPODGE OF MEASURES. THE PRIME MINISTER THOUGH
[00:12:20] PREDICTED THAT THINGS WERE GOING TO BE TOUGH FOR A PERIOD OF
[00:12:22] TIME. HE ALSO SAID THAT WE NEEDED TO
[00:12:26] BE PREPARED FOR EVERY EVENTUALITY.
[00:12:29] I THINK THAT THE BEST ADVICE
[00:12:32] HERE IS TO KEEP CALM, CARRY ON. CANADA HAS BEEN METICULOUS, WE
[00:12:35] HAVE BEEN STRATEGIC IN OUR
[00:12:38] APPROACH TO THIS HORRIBLE
[00:12:41] PROBLEM UP UNTIL THIS POINT. AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE NEED
[00:12:45] TO DO NOW -- IDENTIFY THE DEGREE OF ESCALATION THAT'S EMBEDDED
[00:12:48] HERE.
[00:12:50] AND TO DETERMINE THE EXACT
[00:12:54] IMPACTS AND WHERE THEY FALL.
[00:12:57] AND I SUSPECT THAT THE GOVERNMENT'S FIRST FOCUS WILL BE IN DETERMINING WHERE THEY NEED TO
[00:13:01] INCREASE THE SUPPORTS THAT ARE AVAILABLE FOR CANADIAN BUSINESS,
[00:13:03] FOR CANADIAN WORKERS, FOR THE CANADIAN ECONOMY TO GET THROUGH
[00:13:06] THIS ROUGH PATCH.
[00:13:09] THE PRIME MINISTER SAID THAT WE'VE GOT TO STAND TOGETHER AND
[00:13:12] TO HAVE EACH OTHER'S BACKS. SO BUY CANADIAN IS A VERY
[00:13:15] IMPORTANT MESSAGE.
[00:13:17] >> Adrienne: I APPRECIATE HOW EARLY THIS MOMENT IS, WE'RE IN
[00:13:21] AN ERA OF EVERYBODY WANTS INSTANT ANALYSIS AND I APOLOGISE
[00:13:23] FOR WANTING SOME AS WELL.
[00:13:25] DO YOU HAVE AN INSTINCT ABOUT WHICH REGION IS PARTICULARLY
[00:13:29] CONCERNED TONIGHT?
[00:13:34] >> YOU KNOW, I -- I THINK -- I
[00:13:36] THINK THAT WE ALL NEED TO SHARE
[00:13:40] A SENSE OF COMMUNITY AT THIS -- AT THIS IMPORTANT MOMENT FOR
[00:13:42] CANADA.
[00:13:45] OUR COUNTRY IS CLEARLY BEING
[00:13:50] ATTACKED IN AN ECONOMIC SENSE.
[00:13:54] THE OBJECTIVE IS OBVIOUSLY TO
[00:13:57] WEAKEN THE CANADIAN ECONOMY AND EVENTUALLY TO PURSUE THAT
[00:14:00] BIZARRE NOTION OF ANNEXATION.
[00:14:04] WE NEED TO STAND TOGETHER AND TO
[00:14:07] BE UNIFIED, WHETHER IT'S OUR PARTICULAR REGION THAT'S BEING
[00:14:11] HIT, OR SOMEBODY ELSE'S.
[00:14:15] THIS IS ALL THE SAME COUNTRY. SO THOSE SUPPORT PROGRAMMES HAVE
[00:14:18] TO BE STRONG, THEY HAVE TO BE QUICK, AND THEY HAVE TO BE
[00:14:20] EFFECTIVE, AND THE
[00:14:23] COUNTERMEASURES NEED TO BE
[00:14:25] STRATEGIC AND INTELLIGENT. AND SO THAT -- SO THAT THEY
[00:14:29] DELIVER THE RIGHT MESSAGE, MOST
[00:14:30] PARTICULARLY BUY CANADIAN.
[00:14:33] WE NEED TO GET OUR AMERICAN
[00:14:36] CUSTOMERS AND SUPPLIERS AND COLLEAGUES AND FRIENDS TO TALK
[00:14:40] TO THEIR OWN GOVERNMENT MORE VIGOROUSLY ABOUT HOW THEIR
[00:14:44] GOVERNMENT IS DOING DAMAGE TO THEM, NOT JUST US.
[00:14:47] AND WE NEED TO BUILD OUT THE CANADIAN ECONOMY SO THAT IT CAN
[00:14:51] WITHSTAND AND BE STRONGER FOR THE FUTURE. >> Adrienne: AS YOU TALK, I'M
[00:14:54] REMINDED OF WHAT JEAN CHRÉTIEN SAID ON THE WEEKEND, WHICH IS,
[00:14:57] YOU KNOW, REMEMBER THE AMERICANS DON'T BUY ANYTHING THEY DON'T NEED. >> EXACTLY.
[00:15:02] >> Adrienne: SO AT SOME POINT THEY WILL NEED SOMETHING. THREE WEEKS -- THIS SEEMS TO BE
[00:15:05] THE PERIOD OF TIME THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. WHAT WOULD HAVE TO HAPPEN TO
[00:15:09] STOP THIS FROM HAPPENING WITHIN
[00:15:10] THREE WEEKS?
[00:15:14] >> WELL, THERE WOULD NEED TO BE
[00:15:16] SOME CONVERSATIONS AT A SENIOR
[00:15:19] LEVEL TO SEE WHETHER FURTHER DISCUSSION AT THIS STAGE IS, IN FACT, USEFUL.
[00:15:23] AND THE AMERICANS WOULD HAVE TO
[00:15:25] SEND SOME SIGNALS TO THE
[00:15:28] CANADIAN SIDE THAT THIS ATTITUDE
[00:15:32] OF SUBJUGATION AND DOMINANCE ON
[00:15:34] THEIR SIDE OF THE BORDER IS NO
[00:15:37] LONGER THEIR MODUS OPERANDI AND
[00:15:42] THAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY READY FOR A REASONABLE, BALANCED, FAIR
[00:15:45] AGREEMENT, LEGALLY BINDING -- NOT JUST A TRADE DEAL ON THE
[00:15:47] BACK OF AN ENVELOPE -- BUT A
[00:15:49] LEGALLY BINDING AGREEMENT THAT IS RESPECTABLE AND WORKABLE AND
[00:15:53] ECONOMIC IN BOTH DIRECTIONS. >> Adrienne: HOW MUCH MORE DOES
[00:15:56] CANADA HAVE IN THE ARSENAL AS IT
[00:15:59] WERE -- YOU'RE AT THE TABLE AND
[00:16:00] YOU'RE AT THIS ADVISORY COUNCIL.
[00:16:04] DO THEY EVER TALK ABOUT EXPORT TAX ON ENERGY, POTASH?
[00:16:07] >> I THINK -- I THINK THAT THE
[00:16:10] MINDSET IS THAT, UH, WHEN WE'RE
[00:16:13] IN THIS KIND OF A -- OF A BATTLE THAT IS TENDING TO BE
[00:16:17] EXISTENTIAL IN ITS IMPLICATIONS THAT EVERYTHING HAS TO BE ON THE
[00:16:20] TABLE.
[00:16:22] WE WOULD MAKE OUR STRATEGIC
[00:16:24] DECISIONS HOPEFULLY IN AN INTELLIGENT WAY ABOUT WHEN TO DO
[00:16:27] WHAT.
[00:16:33] BUT YOU DON'T TIE ANY OF YOUR POTENTIAL ARMS BEHIND YOUR BACK
[00:16:36] BEFORE YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHAT KIND OF A SITUATION THAT YOU'RE
[00:16:38] FACING. >> Adrienne: SO IT'S NOT A NO?
[00:16:42] >> IT'S NOT A NO. NO. >> Adrienne: OKAY, THANK YOU.
[00:16:45] THAT'S RALPH GOODALE, A MEMBER OF THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE ON
[00:16:48] CANADA-U.S. ECONOMIC RELATIONS.
[00:16:53] >> SO WHERE DOES ALL OF THIS LEAVE CONSUMER?
[00:16:56] AS WE HEARD EARLIER, OTTAWA'S
[00:17:00] COUNTER-TARIFFS HAVE CANADIANS PRETTY ANXIOUS ABOUT HOW MUCH THOSE MEASURES WILL COST THEM. NISHA PATEL NOW WITH WHY PRICES COULD GO UP AND WHAT YOU COULD DO ABOUT IT.
[00:17:04] >> Reporter: PRICES ARE ALREADY GOING UP AT THIS OSHAWA,
[00:17:06] ONTARIO, FLOORING STORE.
[00:17:09] >> THIS ONE HERE, FOR EXAMPLE, WENT FROM JUST OVER $9 TO OVER
[00:17:11] $11 NOW. >> Reporter: MOST OF THE CARPETS
[00:17:14] HERE ARE IMPORTED FROM THE U.S.
[00:17:18] AND NOW HAVE BEEN HIT BY
[00:17:22] CANADA'S NEWLY IMPOSED
[00:17:23] COUNTER-TARIFFS OF UP TO 50%. >> WE TRY TO ABSORB SOME, BUT AS
[00:17:27] A SMALL BUSINESS, IT'S REALLY CHALLENGING FOR US TO ABSORB THOSE KIND OF COSTS IN THE LONG TERM.
[00:17:30] >> Reporter: CHALLENGING FOR CONSUMERS TOO.
[00:17:33] THE IMPORT TAX DOES APPLY TO SOME BIG TICKET PURCHASES LIKE
[00:17:36] APPLIANCES AND FURNITURE. MEANING THAT PRICES COULD GO UP
[00:17:39] FOR SPECIFIC ITEMS. BUT MOST EVERYDAY GOODS AREN'T
[00:17:42] AFFECTED. >> I DON'T THINK THAT WE'RE GOING TO SEE A HUGE IMPACT ON
[00:17:46] PRICES. THE CANADIAN GOVERNMENT TRIED TO
[00:17:48] DESIGN THEM IN A WAY SO THAT THE CONSUMER WOULD BE SHIELDED FROM
[00:17:52] THE FULL BRUNT OF THE TARIFFS. >> Reporter: EXPERTS SAY THAT SHOPPERS CAN TAKE CONTROL,
[00:17:55] LOOKING FOR ALTERNATIVES THAT AREN'T MADE IN THE U.S.
[00:17:59] >> LOOK AHEAD, A MONTH, TWO MONTHS, THREE MONTHS FROM NOW. WHAT DO YOU SEE COMING YOUR WAY
[00:18:03] IN TERMS OF BIG BILLS OR BIG EXPENSES THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE
[00:18:05] FACING. AND HOW MANY OF THESE THINGS ARE
[00:18:09] AMERICAN PRODUCTS THAT ARE ON THAT TARIFF LIST?
[00:18:12] >> Reporter: MANY CANADIANS SEEM TO BE ONBOARD WITH THE FEDERAL
[00:18:15] GOVERNMENT'S STRATEGY TO GET
[00:18:16] AHEAD IN THE TRADE WAR.
[00:18:20] 60% OF THOSE SURVEYED SAID THEY WOULD STAY THE COURSE, EVEN IF
[00:18:24] HOUSEHOLD COSTS RISE BY 20%. OTHERS THOUGH WORRY ABOUT THE
[00:18:27] HIGH COST OF LIVING.
[00:18:30] >> ESCALATING TALKS BETWEEN CANADA AND THE U.S. BACK AND FORTH, UM, ARE PUNITIVE TO ITS
[00:18:33] CITIZENS.
[00:18:38] >> IT'S POINTLESS. AND I JUST THINK THAT IT'S GOING
[00:18:40] TO CONTINUE TO GET WORSE. >> THIS ONE HERE IS ONE OF THE MOST POPULAR ONES --
[00:18:44] >> Reporter: FOR SMALL BUSINESSES THAT NEGATIVE
[00:18:46] SENTIMENT IS MOST CONCERNING. LOSING CUSTOMERS WILL HURT MORE
[00:18:49] THAN THE BOTTOM LINE.
[00:18:51] >> I LOSE A LOT OF SLEEP.
[00:18:54] YOU KNOW, IT'S -- IT IS NOT ONLY
[00:18:58] WORRYING ABOUT MY OWN FAMILY, IT'S WORRYING ABOUT ALL OF THE FAMILIES THAT WE EMPLOY. >> Reporter: THAT LINGERING UNCERTAINTY, A SHADOW OVER THIS BUSINESS, AND THE BROADER
[00:19:02] ECONOMY.
[00:19:05] NISHA PATEL, CBC NEWS, TORONTO. >> Adrienne: AFTER THE BREAK,
[00:19:08] JUST A FEW THINGS TO TALK ABOUT. MERCIFULLY, ROSIE IS HERE WITH "AT ISSUE."
[00:19:12] >> Rosemary: OBVIOUSLY,
[00:19:16] ADRIENNE, TONIGHT WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT CANADA'S COUNTER-TARIFFS AND NOW THE LATEST U.S. ESCALATION.
[00:19:20] >> Rt. Hon. Mark Carney: WE HAVE EVERYTHING THAT WE NEED TO PIVOT
[00:19:21] AND TO PROSPER.
[00:19:26] THAT PIVOT WILL COME AT A COST. THERE'S ALWAYS A COST TO ACTION.
[00:19:28] BUT IT DOESN'T COME CLOSE TO THE
[00:19:30] COST OF STANDING STILL. >> Rosemary: SO WHAT IS TO BE
[00:19:34] MADE OF WHAT CANADA DID AND HOW IS CANADA POSITIONED TO RESPOND TO THIS LATEST MOVE FROM THE
[00:19:37] U.S.? CHANTAL, ALTHIA AND ANDREW JOIN ME TO TALK ABOUT THAT AND MORE. (♪)
[00:21:47] >> Rosemary: "AT ISSUE" TONIGHT, TRADE WAR ESCALATION.
[00:21:50] CANADA'S COUNTER TARIFF RESPONSE WENT INTO EFFECT OVERNIGHT.
[00:21:52] A MOVE THAT THE PRIME MINISTER SAYS THAT IS NECESSARY TO PROTECT CANADA.
[00:21:56] >> Rt. Hon. Mark Carney: I DON'T BELIEVE IN ESCALATING THE CONFLICT.
[00:21:58] THAT'S NOT CONSTRUCTIVE.
[00:22:00] BUT OUR TARIFFS ARE NECESSARY TO
[00:22:03] PROTECT OUR WORKERS, PROTECT OUR
[00:22:06] COMPANIES, AND OUR COMMUNITIES. >> Rosemary: THE U.S. THOUGH IS
[00:22:09] NOW HITTING BACK ON CERTAIN CANADIAN PRODUCTS WITH TARIFFS
[00:22:12] AND IMPORT BANS ON OTHER PRODUCTS.
[00:22:16] >> IF I WERE CANADIANS, I WOULD BE CAREFUL, BECAUSE THEY WANTED THE BENEFITS OF BEING A STATE,
[00:22:19] WITHOUT BEING A STATE.
[00:22:21] AND NOW THE -- NOW THAT THE
[00:22:29] ARRANGEMENTS MAY BE SPLINTERING, EVERYONE IS GOING TO COME TO OUR SIDE.
[00:22:32] >> Rosemary: SO WHAT DOES CANADA'S DOLLAR-FOR-DOLLAR TARIFF RESPONSE MEAN FOR THE
[00:22:35] TRADE WAR? AND HOW PREPARED IS CANADA NOW
[00:22:39] TO RESPOND TO THIS FURTHER RETALIATION FROM THE UNITED STATES? I'M ROSEMARY BARTON AND HERE TO
[00:22:43] BREAK IT ALL DOWN TONIGHT. GLAD TO HAVE THEM, CHANTAL HEBERT, ANDREW COYNE AND ALTHIA
[00:22:46] RAJ. GOOD TO SEE YOU ALL BACK FOR THE OFFICIAL BEGINNING OF THE
[00:22:49] SEASON.
[00:22:53] AN ESCALATION IN EVENTS AND A
[00:22:55] SPIRALING OF THIS, UM, CHANTAL, LET ME START WITH YOU.
[00:22:58] I MEAN, CANADA -- THE PRIME MINISTER MADE THE CASE AS TO WHY HE FELT THAT HE HAD TO PUT THESE
[00:23:02] COUNTER-TARIFFS IN PLACE AND NOW WE SEE THE RESPONSE FROM THE WHITE HOUSE.
[00:23:05] HOW SURPRISED ARE YOU?
[00:23:08] >> NOT AT ALL.
[00:23:12] I MEAN, THIS IS BASICALLY, UM,
[00:23:15] BEING INVITED TO A BALLET WHERE
[00:23:17] YOU WERE GIVEN AN INSIGHT INTO
[00:23:22] EVERY STEP THAT YOU WOULD BE SHOWN. THERE IS NO WAY THAT THE
[00:23:25] CANADIAN GOVERNMENT WAS GOING TO BACK OFF ITS PLAN TO HAVE
[00:23:27] COUNTER-TARIFFS.
[00:23:30] IT CERTAINLY WAS PROVIDED NO REASON FOR THAT OVER A BARRAGE
[00:23:34] OF INSULTS OF ALL KINDS THAT HAVE BEEN COMING FROM THE
[00:23:37] ADMINISTRATION. AND THERE WAS ALSO VERY LITTLE
[00:23:40] INDICATION THAT THIS WOULD NOT BE FOLLOWED BY RETALIATION.
[00:23:43] SO THIS IS WHERE WE ARE AT.
[00:23:47] BUT THERE'S -- BUT -- BUT WHAT
[00:23:50] I'M WATCHING FOR -- BECAUSE I WATCHED THE PRIME MINISTER'S
[00:23:52] ADDRESS TODAY.
[00:23:55] AND I NOTICED THAT -- AND I COVERED THE F.D.A., NAFTA AND
[00:23:59] THE LAST RENEGOTIATION THAT LED TO CUSMA.
[00:24:01] >> Rosemary: YEP.
[00:24:04] >> THE GOVERNMENT OF CANADA IS NO LONGER FRAMING THIS AS A
[00:24:06] TRADE NEGOTIATION.
[00:24:09] IT'S FRAMING THIS AS SOMETHING
[00:24:11] MUCH LARGER, PROBABLY RIGHTLY, BUT THAT ALSO MEANS THAT -- TO
[00:24:15] GO BACK TO THE TABLE WILL
[00:24:19] INVOLVE A LOT MORE THAN SAYING LET'S TAKE THE TEXT THAT WE ARE WORKING ON WEDNESDAY AND SEE IF
[00:24:22] WE CAN MAKE IT WORK ON FRIDAY.
[00:24:25] >> Rosemary: ANDREW? >> YEAH, IT'S NOT A TRADE
[00:24:29] NEGOTIATION BECAUSE IT'S ABOUT A LOT MORE THAN TRADE AND BECAUSE
[00:24:32] IT'S NOT A WHOLE LOT TO NEGOTIATE. THE AIMS AND THE AMBITIONS OF
[00:24:36] THE PRESIDENT VARY FROM WEEK TO WEEK, BUT THEY HAVE A BROAD
[00:24:40] OUTLINE OF ESSENTIALLY SUPPRESSING THIS COUNTRY'S NATIONAL INDEPENDENCE AND
[00:24:43] SOVEREIGNTY AND FORCING TO HAVE
[00:24:47] A WHOLE RANGE OF POLICY FRONTS WITH THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. LEAVING ASIDE THE VARIOUS
[00:24:51] THREATS OF ANNEXATION, ETC. I THINK THAT THE GOVERNMENT MUST
[00:24:54] KNOW THAT. I THINK THAT THEY DIDN'T KNOW IT
[00:24:58] BEFORE, THEY CERTAINLY FOUND IT IN THE COURSE OF THE NEGOTIATIONS WHICH IS WHY
[00:25:01] ULTIMATELY THEY WALKED AWAY. AND I THINK THAT IT'S QUITE
[00:25:04] CLEAR THAT THERE'S NOT REALLY A DEAL TO BE HAD WITH THIS ADMINISTRATION, PARTLY BECAUSE
[00:25:08] THEY DON'T WANT A DEAL.
[00:25:10] THEY CERTAINLY DON'T WANT A DEAL THAT HAMPERS THEIR FREEDOM AND
[00:25:14] MOVEMENT IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR
[00:25:14] FORM.
[00:25:18] IT'S STRICTLY ABOUT WHAT KIND OF
[00:25:21] CONSTRAINTS THEY CAN IMPOSE ON CANADA, AND WHATEVER UNDERTAKINGS THEY DO TAKE -- THEY HAVEN'T HAD MUCH TO DATE,
[00:25:24] EXCEPT TO REDUCE PRE-EXISTING
[00:25:25] TARIFFS.
[00:25:29] YOU CAN'T COUNT ON THEM KEEPING IT. AND AS I SAY, THEIR MAIN
[00:25:30] OBJECTIVE IS TO KEEP HOLDING THE THREAT OF TARIFFS OVER US AND
[00:25:34] NOT JUST TARIFFS BUT OTHER TYPES
[00:25:38] OF RETALIATION, SO AS TO FORCE
[00:25:40] US INTO LINE. SO THIS RETALIATION FOR OUR RETALIATION IS CERTAINLY MODEST COMPARED TO SOME OF THE THINGS
[00:25:44] THAT WERE COMING OUT OF DONALD TRUMP'S MOUTH, BUT WE SHOULDN'T THINK THAT IT WILL END HERE BY ANY STRETCH. >> Rosemary: ALTHIA?
[00:25:48] >> UM, A FEW THINGS.
[00:25:51] I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S JUST NOW
[00:25:53] THAT THE GOVERNMENT HAS KIND OF
[00:25:57] REFRAMED IT AS A WAR. I MEAN, THE PRIME MINISTER USED
[00:26:00] THOSE WORDS BACK ON AUGUST 21ST
[00:26:01] WHEN HE ANNOUNCED THAT HE HAD
[00:26:06] PULLED THE NEGOTIATORS THE NIGHT BEFORE.
[00:26:09] HE SAID THAT YOU ARE AT WAR WHEN YOU GET ATTACKED AND WE HAVE BEEN ATTACKED.
[00:26:12] THE OTHER THING THAT I WOULD SAY IS THAT I DO ACTUALLY THINK THAT
[00:26:16] THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES AND THE PRIME MINISTER OF
[00:26:18] CANADA DID WANT A DEAL. I THINK THAT THE AMERICANS
[00:26:22] WANTED DOMINANCE OVER CANADA AND WE STILL SEE THAT.
[00:26:24] BUT I THINK THAT THE RESPONSE
[00:26:26] THAT WE'VE SEEN FROM DONALD
[00:26:29] TRUMP SHOWS TO US THAT HE DID ACTUALLY WANT A DEAL WITH CANADA.
[00:26:32] WHATEVER THAT MEANT.
[00:26:34] AND THAT CANADA WAS READY TO ACCEPT -- OR THE GOVERNMENT OF
[00:26:37] CANADA -- WAS READY TO ACCEPT
[00:26:40] MANY CONCESSIONS THAT PROBABLY A LOT OF LIBERAL VOTERS OR PEOPLE WHO VOTED FOR THE LIBERAL PARTY
[00:26:44] IN THE LAST ELECTION, WOULD HAVE
[00:26:45] BEEN UNCOMFORTABLE WITH.
[00:26:48] AND WE KIND OF TALKED ABOUT THAT
[00:26:49] ALREADY, UM, IN AUGUST.
[00:26:53] I THINK THAT WHAT I FIND SURPRISING BY THE LATEST WHITE HOUSE ACTION IS HOW KIND OF
[00:26:56] RUSHED IT FEELS.
[00:27:01] LIKE, YOU READ THE LIST OF BANNED PRODUCTS AND SOME YOU CAN
[00:27:05] UNDERSTAND -- LIKE BANNING BEER, FOR EXAMPLE, BECAUSE ALCOHOL HAS BEEN SUCH A BIG THING ON THE
[00:27:09] U.S. FRONT.
[00:27:13] BUT, LIKE, WE DON'T ACTUALLY MAKE ANYTHING THAT'S BRANDED AS TEQUILA AND THEY COULD HAVE
[00:27:16] CALLED IT AGAVE, BUT THEY DIDN'T.
[00:27:20] SO IT KIND OF FEELS THAT THEY
[00:27:23] DIDN'T DO MUCH OF THEIR HOMEWORK.
[00:27:25] IT FEELS A LITTLE BIT RUSHED. AND, I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE THE
[00:27:29] PRIME MINISTER WILL COME OUT AND TELL US THAT WE ALL NEED TO GET
[00:27:30] DRUNK FOR OUR COUNTRY TOMORROW. >> Rosemary:CHANTAL, HOW BAD
[00:27:34] COULD THIS GET? I MEAN, IF IT'S TIT-FOR-TAT --
[00:27:37] AND I FEEL THAT IS DOWNPLAYING
[00:27:41] WHERE WE'RE AT. HOW BAD COULD THIS GET? >> IT COULD GET A LOT WORSE BEFORE IT GETS BETTER.
[00:27:43] A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE KIND OF LOOKING AT THE CALENDAR AND
[00:27:47] SAYING, WELL, WE NEED TO HOLD
[00:27:48] FAST UNTIL THE MIDTERMS.
[00:27:52] IN THE NORMAL SETTING, A
[00:27:56] PRESIDENT THAT IS NOT WINNING THE P.R. WAR AT HOME, THAT HAS PEOPLE FROM HIS OWN SIDE SAYING
[00:28:00] THIS IS WRONG AND IT'S GOING TO HURT US.
[00:28:02] AND THAT IS LOOKING AT THE VOTE WOULD PROBABLY WANT TO CLIMB
[00:28:06] DOWN OR AT LEAST TO FIND SOME
[00:28:13] WAY TO FIX MATTERS. IN THE REVERSE, A PRIME MINISTER WHO HAS PUBLIC OPINION BEHIND
[00:28:15] HIM, WHO DOESN'T HAVE TO FACE AN
[00:28:17] ELECTION ANYTIME SOON, AND WHO
[00:28:21] HAS MORE ALLIES IN THE U.S. BY THE DAY, SHOULD BE IN NO RUSH TO
[00:28:23] DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT. BUT WE'RE NOT IN NORMAL TIMES.
[00:28:27] WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT A
[00:28:28] NORMAL ADMINISTRATION.
[00:28:31] AND THE THINGS ABOUT AMERICAN
[00:28:35] INTEREST -- VERSUS CANADIAN INTEREST, IN A WAY THAT IS
[00:28:37] BENEFICIAL FOR BOTH.
[00:28:41] SO IT COULD GET A LOT WORSE.
[00:28:44] I'M NOT SURE THAT THE MIDTERMS WILL RESOLVE ANYTHING. I'M NOT EVEN SURE HOW THE
[00:28:47] MIDTERMS HAPPEN IN THE U.S. SO THERE'S ONE PREMIER -- I
[00:28:50] THINK THE PREMIER OF NOVA
[00:28:52] SCOTIA -- WHO IS SAYING THAT THE FEAR THAT THIS MIGHT GO ON UNTIL
[00:28:56] DONALD TRUMP IS GONE FROM THE
[00:28:56] WHITE HOUSE.
[00:29:01] THAT IS A POSSIBILITY THAT NO ONE WANTS TO TALK ABOUT, BUT IT'S POSSIBLE.
[00:29:05] >> Rosemary: OKAY, I'VE GOT ABOUT MAYBE 30 SECONDS FOR YOU, ANDREW AND ALTHIA.
[00:29:06] ANDREW?
[00:29:09] >> IT IS ENTIRELY POSSIBLE TO GO
[00:29:11] ON BEYOND THE MIDTERMS, BUT NOW
[00:29:13] IS A GOOD TIME. IF YOU FEEL THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE A CONFRONTATION WITH HIM AT
[00:29:17] SOME POINT, WHICH IS MY VIEW, YOU MIGHT AS WELL HAVE IT NOW. IN THE RUNUP TO THE ELECTION YOU
[00:29:21] WILL DIVIDE A LOT OF REPUBLICANS.
[00:29:23] AS CHANTAL SAID, THERE ARE A LOT
[00:29:25] OF REPUBLICANS WHO
[00:29:28] ARE AGHAST AT WHAT IS GOING ON
[00:29:30] THERE, AND THIS IS MAYBE THE OPTIMAL TIME TO HAVE IT OUT. >> Rosemary: ALTHIA?
[00:29:33] >> I AGREE WITH CHANTAL, I DON'T THINK THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE MUCH MOVEMENT. AND IT'S NOT CLEAR WHAT THE OFF-RAMP IS. IT FEELS THAT THE JUNIOR PLAYERS
[00:29:37] IN THIS BATTLE, LIKE AMBASSADOR
[00:29:38] GREER AND MINISTER LeBLANC
[00:29:41] HAVE OPEN LINES OF COMMUNICATION AND THAT IS, LIKE, A HEALTHY RELATIONSHIP.
[00:29:45] BUT AT THE TOP OF THE WHITE
[00:29:47] HOUSE, IT FEELS LIKE THE PRESIDENT DOES
[00:29:50] NOT WANT TO GIVE AN INCH. AND IT'S NOT CLEAR WHAT THE OFF-RAMPS ARE.
[00:29:53] AND I DO THINK THAT, UM -- IN
[00:29:56] THE VERY SHORT TERM THIS IS LIKE A POLITICAL WIN FOR MARK CARNEY,
[00:29:59] BUT IN THE SHORT-LONG TERM, LIKE WHEN WE GET INTO JANUARY 2027,
[00:30:02] AND, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF
[00:30:05] PEOPLE LOSING THEIR JOBS, UM, THIS IS GOING TO BECOME A REAL
[00:30:07] PROBLEM.
[00:30:10] I THINK THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO RETHINK IF THIS WAS REALLY
[00:30:13] THE WISEST OF STRATEGIES. AND, UM -- I DON'T MEAN THAT IN
[00:30:17] TERMS OF WHAT THE GOVERNMENT IS DOING, BUT IN TERMS OF JUST -- I
[00:30:20] THINK THAT THE PRICE TO PAY WILL
[00:30:23] BE MORE REAL FOR PEOPLE.
[00:30:27] AND I THINK THAT IS IN A WAY WHAT THE PRIME MINISTER WAS TRYING TO CONDITION TODAY IN HIS VIDEO.
[00:30:31] >> Rosemary: OKAY, WE'LL LEAVE
[00:30:34] THIS PART 24R. AND WHEN WE COME BACK WE WILL
[00:30:36] TAKE A LOOK AT HOW THE OPPOSITION PARTIES ARE FARING IN
[00:30:40] THE MIDST OF ALL OF THIS. >> Pierre Poilievre: ALL CANADIANS STAND UNITED IN DENOUNCING THE PRESIDENT'S
[00:30:43] UNACCEPTABLE TWEETS AND TROLLING
[00:30:44] AND TARIFFS.
[00:30:48] AND WE HAVE TO STAND UNITED FOR
[00:30:48] OUR COUNTRY.
[00:30:52] >> Rosemary: SO HOW ARE THEY BALANCING THAT SUPPORT OF TEAM CANADA? AND THEN HOLDING THE GOVERNMENT TO ACCOUNT.
[00:30:56] THAT'S NEXT. (♪) ♪ [upbe
[00:33:34] >> Rosemary: "AT ISSUE," THE RESPONSE, WITH TARIFFS NOW IN EFFECT, OPPOSITION LEADERS ARE
[00:33:37] STANDING BY CANADA'S RESPONSE.
[00:33:42] >> CANADIANS ARE IN A SPIRIT OF COMING TOGETHER TO UNITE IN HARD TIMES. TODAY'S COUNTER-TARIFFS ARE A
[00:33:46] MEASURE THAT WE SUPPORT. >> Rosemary: WHILE OTHERS STILL CALLING FOR MORE TRANSPARENCY ON
[00:33:50] NEGOTIATIONS. >> Pierre Poilievre: WHAT WE'RE
[00:33:54] SAYING IS THAT NOW MORE THAN EVER THE PRIME MINISTER NEEDS TO
[00:33:55] REVEAL THE DEAL THAT HE HAD
[00:33:58] ACCEPTED BUT THEN CLOSED. TELL US THE COST OF THE COUNTER TARIFFS AND COME UP WITH A REAL
[00:34:02] PLAN TO SAVE CANADIANS MONEY AND JOBS. >> Rosemary: HERE TO BREAK DOWN
[00:34:05] HOW THE OPPOSITION PARTIES ARE
[00:34:09] FARING IN THE MIDST OF THIS
[00:34:10] TRADE WAR -- CHANTAL, ALTHIA
[00:34:14] AND ANDREW ARE ALL BACK. IT'S DIFFICULT IF YOU'RE IN THE OPPOSITION TO GET ATTENTION ON THIS ISSUE AND TO NOT LOOK LIKE
[00:34:17] YOU'RE CRITICISING THE COUNTRY.
[00:34:21] BUT PIERRE POILIEVRE, ANDREW, I WILL START WITH YOU -- HAS TRIED
[00:34:24] TO THREAD THAT NEEDLE BY SAYING WHAT I WANT TO KNOW WHAT WAS ON THE TABLE, ALTHOUGH THERE ARE CONFIDENTIALITY AGREEMENTS
[00:34:27] AROUND THAT. AND I WANT PARLIAMENT TO BE
[00:34:30] RECALLED. I CAN IMAGINE WHERE YOU LAND ON
[00:34:33] THE SECOND, MAYBE NOT THE FIRST. >> I'M ALWAYS IN FAVOUR OF
[00:34:37] RECALLING PARLIAMENT.
[00:34:39] IT'S A SAFE HARBOUR FOR HIM. HE DOESN'T WANT TO BE JUST A
[00:34:42] CHEERLEADER FOR THE GOVERNMENT.
[00:34:45] HE DOESN'T WANT TO BE SEEN TO
[00:34:48] BEING A DOG IN THE MANGER AND NOT SUPPORTING THE CANADIAN SIDE. HE'S GOT PEOPLE IN HIS CAUCUS
[00:34:51] AND CERTAINLY IN HIS BASE WHO
[00:34:55] ARE NOT TREADING THAT LINE QUITE AS CAREFULLY AND COME OUT QUITE
[00:34:58] OFTEN SOUNDING LIKE THEY'RE
[00:35:02] BLAMING CANADA FOR THE MESS. WITH THE DEMANDS TO GO BACK TO
[00:35:05] THE NEGOTIATING TABLE AND TO
[00:35:06] QUOTE/UNQUOTE, TO FIX THE
[00:35:09] RELATIONSHIP, SUCH AS IT WERE
[00:35:12] JUST A MARITAL SPAT.
[00:35:15] SO HE'S GOT A TOUGH ROAD TO GO.
[00:35:18] HE'S GOT PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT DOING THIS. AND SO A SAFE THING TO SAY IS TO
[00:35:22] RELEASE THE DOCUMENTS, PARTICULARLY WHEN YOU ARE QUITE ASSURED THAT NO ONE IS GOING TO RELEASE THE DOCUMENTS.
[00:35:25] [LAUGHTER] >> Rosemary: ALTHIA, DO YOU THINK THAT THERE ARE, UM, LEGITIMATE THINGS THAT THE OPPOSITION PARTIES ARE PUTTING
[00:35:29] FORWARD IN RELATION TO ACCOUNTABILITY AND THINGS THAT THEY SHOULD BE ASKING THE
[00:35:33] GOVERNMENT AT THIS MOMENT? >> I DO. I ALSO THINK THAT THEY ARE IN A
[00:35:37] REALLY HARD POSITION AND YOU CAN SEE THAT WHEN PIERRE POILIEVRE,
[00:35:40] FOR EXAMPLE, WAS ASKED ON MONDAY, YOU KNOW, DO YOU SUPPORT
[00:35:44] FURTHER ESCALATION IF THE AMERICANS AS THEY DID TODAY RETALIATE.
[00:35:48] AND THEN WHAT?
[00:35:52] AND HE REFUSED TO ANSWER THAT
[00:35:57] QUESTION, BOTH IN FRENCH AND ENGLISH WHEN IT WAS POSED
[00:35:59] SEPARATELY TO HIM.
[00:36:02] I THINK THAT, UM -- TO ANDREW'S POINT, IT'S MOSTLY THAT THERE'S A LOT OF CONSERVATIVES WHO DON'T
[00:36:06] ACTUALLY SEE WHAT THE PROBLEM WAS IN THE DEAL THAT WAS FLOATED ORIGINALLY.
[00:36:09] AND SO I DO THINK THAT HE'S TRYING TO GET AT THAT ARGUMENT
[00:36:13] WHILE ASKING FOR SOMETHING THAT
[00:36:16] HE KNOWS THAT WILL NOT HAPPEN.
[00:36:21] IN THE SAME WAY THAT HE HAS ASKED FOR A FULL ECONOMIC ANALYSIS OF EVERYONE WHO WILL BE AFFECTED IN EVERY SECTOR. HE MUST KNOW THAT IS AN
[00:36:25] IMPOSSIBLE ASK AT THE MOMENT. SO THE CONSERVATIVES SEEM TO BE
[00:36:28] TRYING TO ASK FOR SOMETHING THAT THEY KNOW THAT THE GOVERNMENT CAN'T DELIVER ON, PERHAPS TO
[00:36:32] BUILD ON THAT ARGUMENT. >> Rosemary: SURE.
[00:36:34] >> THE N.D.P., ON THE OTHER
[00:36:36] HAND, I THINK HAS DONE A SMART
[00:36:40] PIVOT FOR THEM ON THE ECONOMIC
[00:36:45] INVESTMENT CONFERENCE THAT THE PRIME MINISTER WANTS TO HAVE NEXT WEEK. MARK CARNEY SEEMS TO BE MORE INTERESTED IN MAKING SURE THAT
[00:36:49] BUSINESSES SURVIVE AND NOT THAT INDIVIDUALS AND THEIR FAMILIES
[00:36:50] SURVIVE THE CRISIS.
[00:36:56] I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT IS GOING
[00:36:59] TO HAVE HUGE LEGS, BECAUSE I DO BELIEVE THAT THE GOVERNMENT IS
[00:37:01] MINDFUL OF THAT, UM, BUT THAT'S
[00:37:06] PROBABLY HIS BEST LANE AT THE MOMENT, FRANKLY. >> Rosemary: WHAT DO YOU MAKE, CHANTAL, OF HOW DIFFICULT IT IS TO THREAD THAT NEEDLE FOR THE
[00:37:09] OPPOSITION PARTIES?
[00:37:13] >> WELL, TO THE N.D.P.'S POINT, IT'S REALLY HARD TO SECURE
[00:37:17] CANADIAN JOBS IF BUSINESSES ARE
[00:37:21] GOING UNDER.
[00:37:24] SO THERE'S A SQUARING OF CIRCLE THAT IS NOT OBVIOUS HERE.
[00:37:27] AS FOR THE LEADER OF THE OFFICIAL OPPOSITION,
[00:37:31] MR. POILIEVRE, I DON'T THINK THAT ON A MAJOR ISSUE SUCH AS THIS ONE THAT HAS CAPTIVATED THE
[00:37:35] COUNTRY THAT I HAVE EVER SEEN THE CONSERVATIVE LEADER AS
[00:37:39] ISOLATED.
[00:37:42] AND WHY DO I SAY THAT?
[00:37:47] BECAUSE MORE THAN ONE OR TWO PREMIERS -- ESPECIALLY THE MOST INFLUENTIAL ONES -- HAPPEN TO BE
[00:37:51] CONSERVATIVES.
[00:37:54] AND AT THIS POINT THEY ARE STILL WALKING IN STEP.
[00:37:56] WE'RE A LONG WAY, REMEMBER THAT
[00:38:00] PICTURE ON MacLEAN, WHEN YOU SAW ANDREW SCHEER AND THE CONSERVATIVE PREMIERS?
[00:38:03] NO PICTURE LIKE THAT WILL APPEAR ANYTIME SOON.
[00:38:05] AND THEN AT THE SAME TIME YOU
[00:38:10] HAVE VOICES ON THAT SIDE OF THE SPECTRUM -- JEAN CHAREST AND
[00:38:13] JAMES MOORE, JASON KENNEY AND
[00:38:15] ERIN O'TOOLE, I AM JUST NAMING A FEW HERE -- WHO ARE MOSTLY CONSTRUCTIVELY SUPPORTIVE OF THE
[00:38:19] GOVERNMENT.
[00:38:22] SO THAT KIND OF LEAVES
[00:38:29] MR. POILIEVRE AS NOT REALLY PART OF THE CONVERSATION, BECAUSE SO
[00:38:32] MANY PEOPLE IDENTIFIED TO THE CONSERVATIVE MOVEMENT THAN THE CONSERVATIVE PARTY ARE ACTUALLY
[00:38:36] ACTIVELY ENGAGED WITH THE PRIME MINISTER WHO CAN SAY, WELL, I'M NOT MAKING THIS A PARTISAN
[00:38:40] ISSUE.
[00:38:44] LOOK AT HOW I HAVE OPENED MY
[00:38:47] DOOR TO ALL OF THESE PEOPLE. AND LOOK HOW THEY'RE BEING CONSTRUCTIVE ABOUT THIS ISSUE. SO IT'S KIND OF A MOOT DEBATE.
[00:38:51] I DON'T THINK THAT FOR MOST CANADIANS, EITHER PIERRE
[00:38:53] POILIEVRE OR AVI LEWIS OR
[00:38:59] YVES FRANÇOIS SHAPIRO BLANCHET
[00:39:01] FOR THAT, TO BE PART OF THIS
[00:39:05] MOVEMENT. >> IF YOU'RE AN OPPOSITION LEADER, IT'S JUST TO SURVIVE. THE POLLING NUMBERS ARE OFF OF THE CHARTS FOR PUBLIC SUPPORT
[00:39:09] FOR WALKING AWAY FROM THE TABLE AND EVEN FOR THE COUNTER-TARIFFS.
[00:39:12] I HAVE SEEN NUMBERS OF 75%, OR 80% -- YOU CAN'T GET 80% OF
[00:39:16] CANADIANS TO AGREE ON THE TIME OF THE DAY.
[00:39:19] SO THIS -- YOU KNOW, A PERIOD WHERE YOU'RE NOT GOING TO MAKE A
[00:39:23] LOT OF YARDS AGAINST THE
[00:39:26] GOVERNMENT. YOU ARE JUST TRYING TO HOLD ON AND WAIT UNTIL THE CLIMATE IS A BIT MORE FAVOURABLE FOR YOU AND
[00:39:30] IT'S WANT RIGHT NOW. >> Rosemary: BUT THAT IS PRETTY BLEAK FOR SOMEONE LIKE PIERRE
[00:39:32] POILIEVRE, ALTHIA, WHO IS TRYING
[00:39:35] TO STAY IN HIS JOB AND TRYING TO ADVANCE HIS CAUSE.
[00:39:39] THAT'S PRETTY BLEAK? >> PIERRE POILIEVRE HAS WAY
[00:39:41] BIGGER PROBLEMS, FRANKLY, THAN
[00:39:45] MOUNTING A RESPONSE TO THE
[00:39:49] CURRENT CRISIS.
[00:39:54] YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE REASONS THAT HE IS TAKING THE LANE THAT HE IS
[00:39:58] TAKING IS BECAUSE THE PEOPLE THAT CHANTAL MENTIONED -- MANY OF THE PEOPLE WHO VOTED FOR PIERRE POILIEVRE IN THAT LEADERSHIP RACE AND WHO SUPPORT
[00:40:00] HIM DO NOT BELIEVE THAT THOSE
[00:40:06] ARE TRUE CONSERVATIVE VOICES. THERE IS A SCHISM THAT HAS
[00:40:09] OPENED -- VERY PUBLICLY THIS
[00:40:13] SUMMER.
[00:40:16] SO THERE'S VERY UNHAPPY -- UNHAPPY, UM, PEOPLE IN THAT
[00:40:18] CAUCUS.
[00:40:21] AND, UM, VERY CONFLICTED VOICES
[00:40:26] ONLINE WHO ARE TALKING TO US THAT HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THE TRADE WAR, FRANKLY. BUT THAT HAS EXPOSED THOSE DEEP
[00:40:29] CLEAVAGES.
[00:40:36] >> Rosemary: OKAY, LET'S LEAVE IT THERE FOR "AT ISSUE" ON "THE NATIONAL" TONIGHT. WE'LL CONTINUE THIS CONVERSATION. DO GO AROUND ON QUÉBEC'S
[00:40:39] PROVINCIAL ELECTION AND HOW THE TRADE WAR IS AFFECTING THAT RACE
[00:40:41] AND HOW IT'S SHAPING UP. YOU CAN CATCH THAT ON YouTube OR THE PODCAST.
[00:40:45] NOW BACK TO ADRIENNE IN TORONTO.
[00:40:49] >> Adrienne: THANK YOU, ROSIE.
[00:40:51] SO WE HAVE MUCH MORE AHEAD, MORE
[00:40:53] OF THE DAY'S TOP STORIES, INCLUDING ANOTHER BRAZEN ART
[00:40:56] HEIST IN A MUSEUM IN EUROPE. >> WE ARE SEEING THE RISE OF THE
[00:41:00] THREE TO FOUR-MINUTE HEIST. BREAKING IN AND GETTING AWAY
[00:41:04] WITH CULTURAL HERITAGE BEFORE THE POLICE COULD ARRIVE.
[00:41:07] >> Adrienne: HOW THIEVES MADE OFF WITH FAMOUS FRENCH PAINTINGS
[00:41:11] WORTH MILLIONS.
[00:41:14] >>> AND HOCKEY PARENTS TONIGHT SOUNDING THE ALARM ABOUT
[00:41:17] POSSIBLE HIDDEN DANGERS AT THE RINK.
[00:41:20] >> KID WERE STARTING TO COMPLAIN ABOUT HEADACHES AND NAUSEA.
[00:41:23] SOME WERE THROWING UP. >> IT WOULD HAVE NEVER CROSSED
[00:41:26] MY MIND THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT COULD HAVE HAPPENED.
[00:41:28] >> Adrienne: THE CALLS FOR MA ATORY >> Does th
[00:44:37] >> Adrienne: OUR TOP STORY TONIGHT -- THE UNITED STATES IS
[00:44:41] BANNING CANADIAN DAIRY PRODUCTS. MOST ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES, AMONG
[00:44:43] OTHER PRODUCTS.
[00:44:46] THIS MOVE COMES AFTER CANADA IMPOSED RETALIATORY TARIFFS AS THE TRADE WAR RAMPS
[00:44:50] UP EVEN FURTHER.
[00:44:52] THE NEW U.S. MEASURES ARE SET TO TAKE IN EFFECT ON SEPTEMBER
[00:44:54] 29TH.
[00:44:59] >>> NOW JUST DAYS BEFORE THE 25TH
[00:45:03] ANNIVERSARY OF 9/11, IT SUGGESTS
[00:45:06] IN DOCUMENTS THAT NEW YORKERS WERE MISLED ABOUT THE AIR QUALITY AROUND GROUND ZERO.
[00:45:10] >> MORE PEOPLE HAVE DIED FROM 9/11 RELATED ILLNESS, THAN KILLED ON THE DAY ITSELF.
[00:45:13] >> Adrienne:NEW YORK'S MAYOR SAYS THAT HE IS PROVIDING
[00:45:17] ACCESS TO 170,000 PAGES OF CITY RECORDS, SOME WHICH SHOW ASBESTOS WAS NEARLY EVERYWHERE
[00:45:21] IN THE CITY AFTER THE ATTACKS. THAT DESPITE THE CITY OFFICIALS CLAIMING AT THE TIME THAT THE
[00:45:25] AIR WAS SAFE.
[00:45:28] >> President Trump: WE GATHER ON
[00:45:30] ANOTHER TUESDAY MORNING IN
[00:45:33] SEPTEMBER TO REAFFIRM THE SACRED VOW THAT WE MADE A QUARTER OF A
[00:45:37] CENTURY AGO. WE WILL NEVER FORGET. >> Adrienne: DONALD TRUMP
[00:45:41] ADDRESSING FIRST RESPONDERS AND THE FAMILIES OF VICTIMS AT A
[00:45:44] 9/11 COMMEMORATION IN WASHINGTON.
[00:45:48] THE EVENT SHOWCASED A MASSIVE 6.5 METRE STEEL BEAM RECOVERED FROM THE WORLD TRADE CENTER
[00:45:52] SOUTH TOWER. IT HAS TRAVELED THE U.S. FOR
[00:45:54] MONTHS AND IT WILL BE RETURNED
[00:46:00] TO GROUND ZERO DURING FRIDAY'S 25TH ANNIVERSARY CEREMONY. >>> AND AS THE U.S. PREPARES TO MARK THAT ANNIVERSARY, WE HAVE
[00:46:04] SPECIAL COVERAGE PLANNED FOR YOU. I WILL BE HOSTING "THE NATIONAL"
[00:46:07] FROM MANHATTAN STARTING ON THURSDAY AND ON FRIDAY MORNING,
[00:46:10] THE FAMILIES OF THE VICTIMS WILL GATHER FOR A CEREMONY AT GROUND ZERO.
[00:46:14] WE WILL BRING THAT TO YOU LIVE STARTING AT 8:00 A.M. EASTERN AND, OF COURSE, WE'LL BRING YOU
[00:46:18] CEREMONIES FROM GANDER,
[00:46:18] NEWFOUNDLAND.
[00:46:22] >>> WELL, FRENCH POLICE ARE HUNTING FOR TWO ART THIEVES TONIGHT AFTER ANOTHER
[00:46:26] MULTIMILLION DOLLAR MUSEUM HEIST. THE STOLEN ART IS THE WORK OF A
[00:46:30] RENOWNED FRENCH PAINTER.
[00:46:33] THOMAS DAIGLEEL TAKES US THROUGH THE DARING ROBBERY AND WHAT WE
[00:46:37] KNOW SO FAR. >> Reporter: IT DIDN'T TAKE MUCH
[00:46:39] FOR THIEVES TO CUT A HOLE IN THE FENCE AND BUST THROUGH A WINDOW.
[00:46:43] SNATCHING WORKS OF THE LEGENDARY
[00:46:44] IMPRESSIONIST PAINTER RENOIR
[00:46:49] WORTH MILLIONS. WITHIN JUST THREE MINUTES. A BRAZEN THEFT AT THE MUSEUM
[00:46:52] NAMED AFTER THE FRENCH ARTIST IN THE HOME THAT HE ONCE LIVED.
[00:46:55] >> [Speaking French]
[00:46:57] >> Reporter: THE LOCAL POLICE
[00:47:00] UNION SAYS THAT SUSPECTS CANVASSED THE SITE WELL AHEAD OF TIME.
[00:47:04] FRENCH TV SHOWED A COMPUTER-GENERATED RE-ENACTMENT OF THE BREAK-IN WITH THE SUSPECTS WEARING HOODS AND
[00:47:07] MASKS.
[00:47:11] AS AN ALARM WENT OFF, THEY RUSHED OUT. OFFICERS ARRIVING JUST SECONDS
[00:47:14] TOO LATE.
[00:47:16] >> ALL OF THESE THIEVES WILL
[00:47:20] QUICKLY LEARN THAT YOU CAN'T SELL THESE ITEMS. >> Reporter: IN A PANIC, THIEVES
[00:47:23] DROPPED TWO PAINTINGS IN THE
[00:47:26] BACK GARDENS BUT STILL MADE OFF
[00:47:30] WITH TWO OTHERS, INCLUDING "YOUNG WOMAN AT THE WELL" FROM 1886.
[00:47:32] >> EVERYBODY WHO IS INTERESTED IN ART WILL KNOW THAT THEY ARE STOLEN AND CAN ONLY GET THEM
[00:47:36] ARRESTED AND ARE NOT WORTH THE BIG PRICE TAG THAT THIEVES ARE LOOKING FOR.
[00:47:38] >> Reporter: EVEN SO, EUROPEAN
[00:47:41] AUTHORITIES ARE WARNING ABOUT A SURGE OF ART HEISTS CARRIED OUT IN A FLASH.
[00:47:45] MONTHS AFTER THIS ROBBERY IN ITALY, POLICE RECOVERED ALL
[00:47:47] THREE PAINTINGS -- INCLUDING
[00:47:49] THIS ONE BY RENOIR.
[00:47:53] AND CONSIDER THAT BIG-TIME THEFT FROM THE LOUVRE IN PARIS LAST YEAR.
[00:47:56] CASTING A GLOBAL SPOTLIGHT ON
[00:47:59] EUROPE'S ART HEIST EPIDEMIC.
[00:48:03] THOSE STOLEN CROWN JEWELLS STILL HAVEN'T BEEN FOUND.
[00:48:05] >> WE'RE SEEING THE RISE OF THE
[00:48:10] THREE TO FOUR-MINUTE HEIST. BREAKING IN AND GETTING AWAY WITH CULTURAL HERITAGE BEFORE
[00:48:12] POLICE CAN ARRIVE. >> Reporter: AS FOR THE RENOIR
[00:48:16] MUSEUM IN THE SOUTH OF FRANCE, IT IS CLOSED AS POLICE HUNT FOR
[00:48:19] SUSPECTS.
[00:48:22] ALL OF IT LEADING TO CALLS FOR PRECIOUS PIECES OF ART HISTORY
[00:48:24] TO BE BETTER PROTECTED.
[00:48:27] THOMAS DAIGLEEL, CBC NEWS, TORONTO. >> Adrienne: AUTHORITIES IN B.C.
[00:48:31] SAY THAT AN 85-YEAR-OLD MAN SHOT
[00:48:34] AND KILLED IN HIS HOME LAST
[00:48:37] MONTH WAS HIT BY A STRAY BULLET. >> SOMEONE BEING STRUCK IN THEIR
[00:48:39] HOME ONE BLOCK AWAY IS SHOCKING.
[00:48:43] AND WE HAD TO DO OUR DUE DILIGENCE TO ASCERTAIN THAT THIS
[00:48:45] IS, IN FACT, WHAT HAPPENED.
[00:48:48] >> Adrienne: CHANG YOUNG CHOE WAS FOUND DEAD IN HIS BURNABY
[00:48:51] APARTMENT ON AUGUST 30TH.
[00:48:53] POLICE WERE SENT TO HIS HOME 15
[00:48:56] HOURS AFTER A NEARBY SHOOTING TO DO A WELLNESS CHECK.
[00:48:59] IT'S BELIEVED THAT A GROUP OF
[00:49:01] YOUNG PEOPLE ARE INVOLVED OR HAVE KNOWLEDGE OF THAT SHOOTING.
[00:49:05] >>> WELL, PARENTS IN CALGARY ARE DEMANDING CARBON MONOXIDE DETECTORS IN HOCKEY RINKS TO BE
[00:49:08] MANDATORY.
[00:49:11] THIS CALL COMES AFTER A RECENT
[00:49:13] DANGEROUS INCIDENT SENT MORE THAN 20 KIDS TO HOSPITAL.
[00:49:16] MEAGAN FITZPATRICK BRINGS US THEIR STORIES AND THE CALL FOR ACTION.
[00:49:19] >> I WENT BACK AND LOOKED. >> Reporter:THESE PARENTS HAVE
[00:49:23] SPENT COUNTLESS HOURS IN HOCKEY ARENAS CHEERING ON THEIR KIDS.
[00:49:27] IN 2024, ONE TOURNAMENT LED TO A
[00:49:29] SERIOUS HEALTH SCARE. >> KIDS WERE COMPLAINING OF HEADACHES AND NAUSEA AND SOME
[00:49:33] WERE THROWING UP AND PARENTS WERE WORRIED WHETHER THERE WAS A
[00:49:34] VIRUS GOING AROUND. >> Reporter: THAT'S WHAT DAN
[00:49:38] MOYER FIRST SUSPECTED BUT AS A FIREFIGHTER HE ALSO KNEW THE SIGNS OF CARBON MONOXIDE
[00:49:42] POISONING AND HE CALLED A NEARBY FIRE DEPARTMENT.
[00:49:45] >> AS SOON AS THEY WALKED IN THE FRONT DOOR OF THE ARENA THEY GOT
[00:49:48] HIGH ALARMS INTO THEIR
[00:49:50] MONITORING EQUIPMENT. >> Reporter: MORE THAN 20 WERE
[00:49:54] TREATED AND SOME HOOKED UP TO
[00:49:55] OXYGEN AND ALL RECOVERED.
[00:49:58] NOW THESE PARENTS ARE SHARING
[00:50:00] THEIR STORIES IN THE "CANADIAN MEDICAL
[00:50:04] ASSOCIATION JOURNAL." >> IT WOULD HAVE NEVER CROSSED
[00:50:07] MY MIND THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT COULD HAVE HAPPENED. >> Reporter: AND THEY EMIT CARBON MONOXIDE INTO THE ARENA
[00:50:11] AIR. IF THEY ARE USED OFTEN OR POORLY MAINTAINED AND THE VENTILATION
[00:50:13] IS WEAK, THE GAS CAN RISE TO DANGEROUS LEVELS, ESPECIALLY FOR
[00:50:17] KIDS WHO ARE EXERCISING. >> NOT ONLY ARE THEY HYPER
[00:50:20] METABOLIC AND THEY ARE HYPERVENTILATING AND THEIR HEART IS BEATING FASTER AND THEY'RE
[00:50:24] BREATHING IN MORE AIR AND MORE
[00:50:27] CARBON MONOXIDE. BUT THERE IS MORE CARBON MONOXIDE THERE FOR THEM
[00:50:30] TO BREATHE IN.
[00:50:33] >> Reporter:SOME ARENAS HAVE
[00:50:34] AIR MONITORS AND CARBON MONOXIDE
[00:50:37] ALARMS, BUT NOT ALL. THESE PARENTS SAY THAT THEY SHOULD BE MANDATORY.
[00:50:41] >> TO LEARN THAT THESE ARENA DOES NOT HAVE RULES THEY HAVE TO HAVE CARBON MONOXIDE MONITORS IN
[00:50:43] THEM IS MIND BLOWING, BECAUSE
[00:50:47] OOSES SUCH A SIMPLE THING THAT
[00:50:50] CAN BE FIXED. >> Reporter: THIS HEALTH INSPECTOR AGREES, BUT ALSO --
[00:50:53] >> WHAT ARE THEY DOING TO PREVENT THAT ALARM FROM GOING OFF IN THE FIRST PLACE?
[00:50:56] >> Reporter: HEALTH CANADA HAS
[00:50:57] GUIDELINES THAT INCLUDE USING
[00:51:00] ELECTRIC RESURFACERS AND OPENING UP THE GATES AROUND THE RINK
[00:51:03] DURING RESURFACINGS AND HAVING
[00:51:07] INSTALLED CARBON MONOXIDE DETECTORS.
[00:51:10] >> WE ARE A COUNTRY THAT LOVE ICE SPORTS.
[00:51:12] MY KIDS SPEND A LOT OF TIME IN THE ARENA AND THEY
[00:51:16] SHOULD BE SAFE. >> Reporter: REGARDLESS WHAT HAPPENS ON THE ICE THIS SEASON, RAISING AWARENESS ABOUT HEALTH RISKS IN THE RINK IS A WIN FOR THESE PARENTS. MEAGAN FITZPATRICK, CBC NEWS,
[00:51:20] TORONTO.
[00:51:24] >> Adrienne: COMING UP, A CANADIAN SAILOR GETS LOST IN A
[00:51:26] REMOTE PART OF THE INDIAN OCEAN.
[00:51:30] >> THEY WERE ABLE TO DEPLOY A
[00:51:31] RESCUE HELICOPTER WHICH WENCHED
[00:51:34] THE SAILOR TO SAFETY. >> Adrienne: THE DRAMATIC RESCUE FROM AUSTRALIAN AUTHORITIES NEXT
[00:51:37] IN OUR "MOMENT." >> I'm I
[00:54:55] >> Adrienne: THIS IS A CANADIAN SAILOR RAISING HIS ARMS FOR HELP
[00:54:58] AS AUSTRALIAN RESCUE TEAMS
[00:55:00] APPROACHED HIS SINKING BOAT. HE'D BEEN LOST IN A REMOTE PART
[00:55:03] OF THE INDIAN OCEAN.
[00:55:06] SO AFTER THE SAILOR MISSED TWO SCHEDULED PHONE CALLS WITH HIS
[00:55:08] FAMILY BACK HOME IN CANADA, THEY GOT IN TOUCH WITH THE AUSTRALIAN
[00:55:11] AUTHORITIES. AND THAT DRAMATIC RESCUE MAKES OUR "MOMENT."
[00:55:14] (♪)
[00:55:19] >> AMSA WAS CONTACTED BY A
[00:55:25] CONCERNED PERSON IN CANADA WHO WAS RECEIVING SCHEDULED REPORTS FROM
[00:55:29] THE VESSEL WHEN THEY FAILED TO MAKE TWO SCHEDULED REPORTS, THEY
[00:55:32] WERE ON THE WAY FROM DARWIN TO CHRISTMAS ISLAND.
[00:55:35] THE LAST KNOWN POSITION FOR
[00:55:39] THE VESSEL WAS 1,000 KILOMETRES IN A REMOTE PART OF THE WORLD.
[00:55:41] THERE HAD BEEN FAIRLY SEVERE
[00:55:44] WEATHER THROUGH THAT AREA OVER THE WEEKEND.
[00:55:46] AND THE VESSEL WAS REPORTED AS
[00:55:51] BEING SEMI-EMERGED WITH THE BACK HALF OF THE YACHT IN THE WATER. AND THE SAILOR WAS TINDERRED AND
[00:55:55] ONCE HE RECEIVED THE DROP FROM
[00:55:58] THE JET, WE WERE ADVISED THAT HE CLIMBED ABOARD THE EMERGENCY
[00:56:02] RAFT AND THEY WERE ABLE TO DEPLOY A RESCUE HELICOPTER WHICH WENCHED THE SAILOR TO SAFETY. THIS SAILOR APPEARS TO HAVE DONE
[00:56:05] ALL OF THE RIGHT THINGS.
[00:56:11] WONDERFUL TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE ASSISTANCE TO THIS CANADIAN SAILOR WHO GOT IN TROUBLE IN A
[00:56:14] VERY REMOTE PART OF THE WORLD. >> Adrienne: SO, FIRSTLY, THANK
[00:56:18] YOU, AUSTRALIA. AND ALWAYS IMPRESSIVE WHEN
[00:56:21] PEOPLE SPEAK SO CALMLY ABOUT SOMETHING QUITE THAT
[00:56:23] COMPLICATED.
[00:56:27] MADE IT SEEM LIKE NO BIG DEAL. IT WAS A VERY BIG DEAL. >>> FROM ALL OF US AT "THE NATIONAL," THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US. I'M ADRIENNE ARSENAULT. TAKE CARE.
[00:56:30] (♪)
[00:56:33] (♪)
[01:00:27] (♪) >> Adrienne: BREAKING TONIGHT, DONALD TRUMP FIRES BACK WITH THE
[01:00:31] DRAMATIC ESCALATION OF HIS TRADE
[01:00:31] WAR AGAINST CANADA.
[01:00:36] THE SWEEPING SERIES OF NEW TRADE MEASURES TARGETING CANADIAN
[01:00:39] PRODUCTS AFTER MARK CARNEY WARNS THE COUNTRY OF A DIFFICULT ROAD AHEAD.
[01:00:43] >> Rt. Hon. Mark Carney: THERE'S
[01:00:44] ALWAYS A COST TO ACTION, BUT IT
[01:00:50] DOESN'T COME CLOSE TO THE COST OF STANDING STILL. >> Adrienne: WE HAVE COMPREHENSIVE COVERAGE WITH
[01:00:53] ANALYSIS FROM WASHINGTON AND OTTAWA, AND A SPECIAL EDITION OF "AT ISSUE" WITH THE POLITICS
[01:00:56] BEHIND THE ESCALATING TRADE WAR. PLUS THE IMPACT ON CONSUMERS
[01:01:00] ALREADY BEING FELT. >> THIS ONE HERE, FOR EXAMPLE, WENT UP FROM JUST OVER $9 TO