CBCNEWS — Live CBC Newsroom With Aarti Pole 20260911 150000 UTC 813 transcript segments Original Broadcaster Captioning (Enhanced) Data courtesy of The GDELT Project (https://www.gdeltproject.org/), from the Internet Archive TV News Archive. Machine transcription. Treat it as a searchable index of what was broadcast, not a verbatim quotation record. [00:00:25] Against a tranquil backdrop, Cabinet ministers are hunkering [00:00:28] down to plan how to weather the turbulent trade war with the [00:00:32] United States [00:00:34] against the US. Well, we're looking to have forward [00:00:38] to have some great meeting school at this cabinet planning [00:00:41] forum to keep Canada strong. We think there is a mutually [00:00:45] beneficial deal possible that respects our sovereignty and is [00:00:49] in the interests of both countries. Despite formal trade [00:00:52] negotiations at a standstill, Prime Minister Mark Kearney [00:00:56] said at a press conference earlier in the day with [00:00:59] Ukraine's president that he recently spoke to the US [00:01:02] president about global events, including Ukraine, [00:01:05] Iran and International Energy markets. I speak regularly to [00:01:09] the president. President Trump is spoken in the recent days. [00:01:14] Just days ago, the Trump administration [00:01:16] announced plans to ban certain Canadian goods, [00:01:19] including most alcohol. The Prime Minister wouldn't say if [00:01:24] Canada will retaliate again. We fully recognize that [00:01:28] for individual companies and in individual sectors, [00:01:32] these are significant and there's a response there. I [00:01:35] would also recognize that [00:01:37] in the context of other things that the US administration has [00:01:41] done, other measures US [00:01:43] administration has done, that these are relatively [00:01:46] modest. But some premiers want action now. I think President [00:01:50] Trump gets his knickers in a knot when it comes to alcohol, [00:01:53] even though it's a very small, small percentage of the overall [00:01:57] tariffs. But we we have to fight back. New Brunswick [00:02:00] announcing a new public sector ban on US procurement. We can't [00:02:04] control what President Trump does, but what we can control, [00:02:08] that's what we do here in New Brunswick. Meanwhile, [00:02:11] the leader of the Official Opposition is making the rounds [00:02:14] on American television networks with a message for Trump. So [00:02:18] let's knock down those tariffs and focus on building a [00:02:21] stronger North America for our two separate countries. [00:02:29] The Prime Minister says the government is always willing to [00:02:32] sit down at the negotiating table in a professional way, [00:02:35] and the proposed deal that was on the table with the US would [00:02:38] have compromised Canada's sovereignty. So over the next [00:02:41] two days here in the Rockies, Kearney says he and his cabinet [00:02:44] will be focused on strengthening the economy, [00:02:47] diversifying abroad and delivering for Canadians. [00:02:52] So, Olivia, those are the big ones. There are other issues, though. What else is the [00:02:56] cabinet discussing? [00:03:00] Well, holding this cabinet planning [00:03:02] forum in Banff sends a message about national unity. Alberta [00:03:05] is about to hold a referendum next month, [00:03:07] which could lead to a vote on separation. Now, [00:03:10] Carney doesn't want that to happen, but for now, [00:03:13] he's taking a bit of a hands off approach, [00:03:15] encouraging Albertans to head to the ballot box on October [00:03:18] 19th no matter what they believe in. [00:03:23] All right, Olivia, thank you. That is Olivia Evanovich in Banff tonight. [00:03:29] It is a long way from the war-torn skies of Ukraine to [00:03:33] the peaceful wide open skies of the Canadian prairies. But now [00:03:37] the two countries are getting closer. Canada will always [00:03:41] stand in solidarity with Ukraine. Canada and Ukraine [00:03:45] signed a new 100 year partnership spanning defence, [00:03:48] trade and energy and a massive new drone deal. Mr. President, [00:03:52] I have to confess that our armed forces currently have [00:03:57] but 2000 drones in our inventory. [00:04:02] In the years to come, we will need millions. Ripping [00:04:05] a page out of Ukraine's wartime experience. Ottawa will create [00:04:09] its own drone marketplace so individual Canadian military [00:04:13] units can quickly order what they need. There's a joint [00:04:17] production deal with 1/3 of Canadian built drones going to [00:04:20] Ukraine, and Canadian companies will now [00:04:23] partner directly with Ukrainian firms, [00:04:27] she says. This will give us greater capacity to finance [00:04:30] Ukraine's defence while giving Canada new technological [00:04:33] capabilities that have been proven in Modern Warfare. 1 of [00:04:37] the challenges Canada faces in the race to catch up to Ukraine [00:04:40] is the speed at which drone technology evolves. So if we [00:04:44] had two million drones on our shelves, [00:04:46] then in a month or two months or six months, [00:04:48] they may all be obsolete because the technology is [00:04:51] evolving so quickly. But we do have to create an industrial [00:04:55] base that is capable of producing at that scale [00:04:58] and capable of scaling up at the time of need each day. [00:05:01] Ukraine faces that evolution in technology. The latest threat [00:05:05] from Russia, jet powered drones. Countering [00:05:08] them and the damage they can do is a major preoccupation for [00:05:12] Vladimir Zelensky as winter approaches. Murray Brewster. [00:05:15] CBC News Ottawa. [00:05:19] The future of war is on sale in Poland this week, [00:05:23] with Canadian firms making an unprecedented, [00:05:26] highly visible sales pitch on drones, [00:05:28] ammunition and all sorts of other lethal weaponry. Only a [00:05:32] couple of years ago, you'd never have seen anything [00:05:36] like this. For most government agencies and banks, [00:05:39] working with the Canadian defence sector was largely [00:05:43] taboo. [00:05:45] But the Carney government is driving a massive pivot, [00:05:48] trying to shift focus away from the US market, [00:05:51] which traditionally buys most of Canada's defence tech, [00:05:54] and looking towards Europe. [00:05:57] Now Ottawa is all in, [00:06:00] is the largest single defence delegation in Canadian history [00:06:03] anywhere. So it's a very big breakthrough as we extend our [00:06:07] reach into Europe bilaterally with Poland, [00:06:09] we're growing and it's it's really taking hold given how [00:06:13] they dominate the battlefield in nearby Ukraine. Small drones [00:06:17] are huge here. Charles Barlow's Ottawa company is already [00:06:20] supplying one European NATO ally, [00:06:22] and he's looking for others. [00:06:25] So we've actually manufactured this out of plywood [00:06:29] and it works. It flies just as well as the carbon fiber [00:06:32] version, which surprised all of us. [00:06:35] Other Canadian gear is built for brute force. This Quebec [00:06:39] based firm originally made these monster fat trucks for [00:06:42] the Canadian Arctic. RV is actually. But David Lord says [00:06:46] European buyers want to try them out first. Difficult [00:06:49] logistics for a mid sized Canadian company to navigate. [00:06:53] There's nothing like experiencing driving it and [00:06:56] conquering terrain and that's where we're trying to go right [00:06:59] now. It's a hard pivot. It really is. Defence industry [00:07:03] executives welcomed the European push but are also [00:07:06] realistic about the [00:07:07] 8 rooted ties binding Canada to the US. Our relationship under [00:07:11] NORAD has given us privileges and our defence Production [00:07:15] Sharing agreement has given us privileges that we certainly [00:07:19] don't wanna see. We certainly don't wanna lose. The hope here [00:07:23] in Poland is that splashy rollouts like this will prove [00:07:27] to European allies that in a shifting geopolitical landscape, [00:07:31] Canada can be a critical partner. Chris Brown, [00:07:34] CBC News and Kielbasa, Poland. [00:07:41] The whole point of this Republican gathering is to [00:07:44] build momentum ahead of November's midterm elections. [00:07:50] And the US president trying to do exactly that, [00:07:53] defending his extraordinary promise to give each adult U.S. [00:07:57] citizen $5000 should his party win the House and Senate. [00:08:01] How is that financially responsible or even doable? [00:08:04] Well, first of all, the money has to be spent in [00:08:08] the United States. We can't go out and buy things from Germany [00:08:11] or or frankly, Canada. Trump's plan could cost [00:08:14] more than a trillion dollars, and he suggests revenues [00:08:18] collected from tariffs could be used to pay for the program. [00:08:21] Technically, is it illegal? Probably not. Courts in the US [00:08:25] would generally say a broad campaign promise about policy, [00:08:29] about giving everybody money if the Republicans win. Even [00:08:32] though it's certainly [00:08:34] sounds like a bribe, it's not necessarily a bribe. [00:08:37] Trump's team quickly fired off this fundraising e-mail as [00:08:40] Republicans get behind the pledge. So we're in the very [00:08:43] first stages when the president throws out an idea, [00:08:46] and it's up to us in Congress to make the numbers work, [00:08:49] to get the details right. But Democrats say the extreme pitch [00:08:53] shows that Republicans are worried about their chances in [00:08:56] the midterms at a time when Trump has low national approval [00:09:00] ratings and families face challenges with the cost of [00:09:03] living. It's it's sort of pathetic and sad. [00:09:06] Same time pathetic because it's just ******** [00:09:10] and said that he had to go in front of people and basically [00:09:14] bribe them. [00:09:16] As for what voters think, some are reacting with [00:09:20] skepticism. Anybody who believe that they gonna get $5000 from [00:09:25] Trump if the Republican win, they [00:09:27] believe the whole bunch of ******** [00:09:30] the full and down the pipe. Another big question is whether [00:09:34] Trump has the power to do this. The lawyer we spoke with says [00:09:37] these kinds of payments would require congressional approval, [00:09:41] though Trump is saying he doesn't think that's the case. [00:09:44] So, Katie, it seems pretty clear that [00:09:47] Donald Trump wants voters just to focus on his payment promise [00:09:50] as that election campaign ramps up. Yeah, [00:09:53] just over 50 days to go until voters decide who will have [00:09:56] control of Congress. Trump is downplaying the consequences of [00:10:00] a major loss for Republicans, saying he'll become a blocker [00:10:03] with plans to block legislation if Democrats win back the House [00:10:07] and the Senate. Alright, the use of that veto. Alright, [00:10:09] That is Katie Simpson in Washington tonight. [00:10:14] Want to get the most out of CBC News? [00:10:16] Use the app or CBC news.ca. For live breaking news on the [00:10:20] stories that matter to you, whether it's local, [00:10:23] national or around the world, turn to CBC News. [00:12:39] >> IT DOESN'T MATTER WHERE YOU WERE, WHERE YOU LIVE, IT DOESN'T [00:12:43] WERE, WHERE YOU LIVE, IT DOESN'T EVEN MATTER IF YOU REMEMBER THE [00:12:47] EVEN MATTER IF YOU REMEMBER THE MONDAY STRESS CITY OF THE 911 MONDAY STRESS CITY OF THE 911 TERROR ATTACKS. [00:12:49] TERROR ATTACKS. THAT HELL CHANGED THE COURSE OF [00:12:51] THAT HELL CHANGED THE COURSE OF ALL OF OUR LIVES FOREVER, AND IT [00:12:54] ALL OF OUR LIVES FOREVER, AND IT TOOK LESS THAN TWO HOURS TO DO [00:12:56] TOOK LESS THAN TWO HOURS TO DO THAT, TO DO THIS. [00:13:04] THAT, TO DO THIS. FOUR HIJACKED PLANES, TWO RAMMED [00:13:07] FOUR HIJACKED PLANES, TWO RAMMED INTO THE TWIN TOWERS. INTO THE TWIN TOWERS. ONE DRIVEN INTO THE PENTAGON. [00:13:11] ONE DRIVEN INTO THE PENTAGON. AND THE LAST FORCED INTO A FIELD [00:13:13] AND THE LAST FORCED INTO A FIELD IN PENNSYLVANIA ONLY AFTER THE IN PENNSYLVANIA ONLY AFTER THE BRAVEST OF PASSENGERS DID THE [00:13:17] BRAVEST OF PASSENGERS DID THE BRAVEST OF THINGS, STORMED THE [00:13:20] BRAVEST OF THINGS, STORMED THE COCKPIT TO TRY TO WRESTLER [00:13:21] COCKPIT TO TRY TO WRESTLER CONTROL OF THE PLANE FROM THE [00:13:24] CONTROL OF THE PLANE FROM THE HIJACKERS. [00:13:27] HIJACKERS. TAKE A BEAT, OUR HEARTS ALL NEED TAKE A BEAT, OUR HEARTS ALL NEED IT. [00:13:32] IT. AND MAYBE YOURS WANTS YOU TO AND MAYBE YOURS WANTS YOU TO LOOK AWAY. LOOK AWAY. BUT SOMETIMES YOU NEED TO STARE [00:13:36] BUT SOMETIMES YOU NEED TO STARE AT A BEAST TO COME TO TERMS WITH [00:13:39] AT A BEAST TO COME TO TERMS WITH IT. IT. >> I HOPE I LIVE. >> I HOPE I LIVE. I HOPE I LIVE. [00:13:43] I HOPE I LIVE. IT'S COMING DOWN ON ME. IT'S COMING DOWN ON ME. HERE IT COMES. [00:13:47] HERE IT COMES. I'M GETTING BEHIND A CAR. [00:13:52] I'M GETTING BEHIND A CAR. IT'S INCREDIBLE. IT'S INCREDIBLE. OKAY, I HAVE TO GO FIND PEOPLE OKAY, I HAVE TO GO FIND PEOPLE WHO NEED HELP. [00:13:55] WHO NEED HELP. >> THIS FOOTAGE FROM Dr. MARK >> THIS FOOTAGE FROM Dr. MARK KEITH. [00:13:59] KEITH. YOU CAN HEAR HIM ASKING IF YOU CAN HEAR HIM ASKING IF ANYONE NEEDED HELP AFTER THE [00:14:01] ANYONE NEEDED HELP AFTER THE TOWERS COLLAPSED. [00:14:03] TOWERS COLLAPSED. >> ANYBODY NEED A DOCTOR? [00:14:07] >> ANYBODY NEED A DOCTOR? SO MANY WERE READY TO HELP. [00:14:09] SO MANY WERE READY TO HELP. STRETCHERS AND FIRST RESPONDERS [00:14:11] STRETCHERS AND FIRST RESPONDERS LINED UP, WAITING FOR THE LINED UP, WAITING FOR THE WOUNDED WHO NEVER CAME. [00:14:14] WOUNDED WHO NEVER CAME. NEW YORK STREETS FILLED WITH THE [00:14:16] NEW YORK STREETS FILLED WITH THE POSTERS OF THE MISSING WHO NEVER [00:14:19] POSTERS OF THE MISSING WHO NEVER CAME HOME. [00:14:22] CAME HOME. THE SMOKE AND DUST THAT CHOKED THE SMOKE AND DUST THAT CHOKED THOSE STREETS AND SKIES, WE NOW [00:14:26] THOSE STREETS AND SKIES, WE NOW KNOW HAS CONTINUED TO KILL AND [00:14:28] KNOW HAS CONTINUED TO KILL AND KILL FAR MORE THAN THE NEARLY [00:14:31] KILL FAR MORE THAN THE NEARLY 3,000 MURDERED ON 9/11. [00:14:35] 3,000 MURDERED ON 9/11. SO MANY LOST, YOU CAN GET CAUGHT [00:14:37] SO MANY LOST, YOU CAN GET CAUGHT UP BY THE NUMBER AND BYPASS THE [00:14:39] UP BY THE NUMBER AND BYPASS THE STORY OF ALL THOSE SOULS. [00:14:42] STORY OF ALL THOSE SOULS. THIS DAY IS FOR THAT, FOR THEM, [00:14:45] THIS DAY IS FOR THAT, FOR THEM, INCLUDING THE 24 CANADIANS INCLUDING THE 24 CANADIANS KILLED. [00:14:48] KILLED. TODAY, WE HONOUR THEM. TODAY, WE HONOUR THEM. WE TALK ABOUT THEM, AND WE TALK [00:14:52] WE TALK ABOUT THEM, AND WE TALK ABOUT WHAT HAS BECOME THE WORLD ABOUT WHAT HAS BECOME THE WORLD SINCE THE DAY THOSE LIVES WERE [00:14:55] SINCE THE DAY THOSE LIVES WERE STOLEN BY TERRORISTS. [00:14:57] STOLEN BY TERRORISTS. THIS IS 9/11, 25 YEARS [00:16:43] There has never been another day like it. [00:16:49] Due to a recent development in the United States, [00:16:51] US airspace has been closed. [00:16:53] Hundreds of planes with thousands of people told they [00:16:57] had to land now. [00:17:00] Craft land as soon as possible at the nearest airport. An [00:17:04] attack underway. Many planes diverted here. Newfoundland [00:17:07] Negative. You must now land at Gander. [00:17:11] From here in the Gander Air Traffic Control tower. It was a [00:17:15] scramble on 9/11 as planes began to land. They needed [00:17:18] places to put them using tarmac space, [00:17:21] including an old disused runway. Anywhere they could find space [00:17:25] to put a plane, they did. It was intense, [00:17:27] but and then it was over. It was air traffic controller Don [00:17:31] O'Brien's job to order planes down. [00:17:34] All around her fault and it's wrong. We're here. [00:17:38] 38 aircraft coming to a place few passengers at. Ever heard [00:17:42] of. Big jets parked wing to wing an unprecedented race in [00:17:47] case more hijackers were still in the air. [00:17:52] The pilots who wanted to get out of sky because it nobody [00:17:55] knew what was more activity going to go on, [00:17:57] terrorist activity. [00:17:59] We had to literally drained the sky later. I'm Spacer. Yeah. 25 [00:18:03] years on. The Gander airport is a lot quieter now. This would [00:18:06] have been an example of the kind of screen you were looking [00:18:10] at that day. Yes, they're coming off westbound. [00:18:12] Just the oceanic boundary line here, [00:18:16] artifacts displayed from that awful day, [00:18:19] but the memories that endure are far more positive. It was a [00:18:24] good feeling of, after working at all, [00:18:27] of satisfaction that you got them down safely. [00:18:32] That day became emblematic of the closeness that can exist [00:18:36] between Canadians and Americans, [00:18:39] and it is a closeness that's being tested now, [00:18:43] big time. We've been pushed to the wall. Welcome to [00:18:47] unexpected [00:18:49] visit to Canada. We are in Gander. It was the first time I [00:18:53] had to rely on the kindness of a stranger to give me a pillow [00:18:57] to lie my head at night. And American Kevin Turf was flying [00:19:01] from Paris to New York that day. He was among close to 7000 [00:19:06] unexpected guests in Gander. There's the plane. You can't [00:19:10] miss that [00:19:12] with thousands more landing across Atlantic Canada. [00:19:18] Mac and Nellie. Hello Canadian bonus parents, how are you? [00:19:22] Hi son, how you doing in in New York? [00:19:25] Kevin isn't really Mac and Nellie Moss's son. But a [00:19:28] quarter century on it sure feels that way. A weary [00:19:32] traveler welcomed with overwhelming Newfoundland [00:19:35] kindness. Mac and Nellie jumped into action and gave us food, [00:19:40] clothing, shelter, information and love and it [00:19:43] really changed my life and and over the years we've really [00:19:48] kept in touch. We were very fortunate because [00:19:51] you know the the friendship memory that we've developed and [00:19:55] I got a song out of it, so that's a real bonus here. [00:20:01] The town's population effectively doubled housed its [00:20:04] school gyms, college classrooms. People's [00:20:07] homes are herculean effort to find food, bedding, [00:20:11] towels and toiletries. Everything those now dubbed the [00:20:15] Plain People might need. [00:20:19] But it was the intangible comfort offered that stuck. 911 [00:20:24] changed a lot of people's lives. You know, some people lost [00:20:29] wives and husbands and [00:20:32] parents, [00:20:34] but it changed other people. And, and in some ways, [00:20:37] it could. It had the power to change for for good. Yeah. And [00:20:40] I think that's your story. That's exactly what kindness [00:20:43] was a big thing, for sure. A lot of them wanted [00:20:46] to pay us for their stay. And I said no. [00:20:49] Anytime that you have an opportunity, [00:20:53] pay it forward. You know, do good to people. Remember [00:20:57] your time in Gander. [00:20:59] We owe our Canadian neighbors a debt of gratitude. An American [00:21:05] cabinet secretary praising Canada? Imagine that today. [00:21:10] We've got tariffs, we've got trade threats. We've got, I mean, we've got threats to take over [00:21:14] the whole country. [00:21:16] It makes me angry to [00:21:19] to see our government [00:21:22] talking about our neighbor [00:21:24] like they are and acting the way they are because it's not [00:21:28] how you treat neighbors. I agree 100% [00:21:33] to thank Newfoundland for its kindness. Parts of the World [00:21:37] Trade Centres have been donated to Gander and other towns that [00:21:41] pitched in a way to remember what happened. [00:21:46] What is the global success of the musical Come From Away? [00:21:52] You got it. [00:21:54] It reinvigorated the story of Newfoundlanders creating [00:21:58] comfort in the face of tragedy. [00:22:02] How are you, David Cotton, Welcome to my home. Thank you [00:22:06] very much. There's a character in the musical named for Beulah [00:22:10] Cooper. She never gets bored of telling her own story, [00:22:13] even 25 years later. It all began for you with a phone call. [00:22:18] Trey sandwiches to the Legion and they said there's plenty [00:22:21] load of people coming in. They're saying tonight I said I [00:22:24] guess I better wait to stay around and see if I can help, [00:22:27] and I did. [00:22:32] The sentiment behind those sandwiches is the reason Beulah [00:22:35] receives all these cards, letters and well wishes. If you [00:22:39] like. You are a constant reminder of the depth of [00:22:42] humanity, grace, and kindness [00:22:44] that exist in the world. Wow. And there's an awful lot of [00:22:49] them. This is part of what I got. I really and truly think [00:22:55] since 9:11, [00:22:57] it's open a lot of hearts and a lot of eyes because you hear [00:23:01] tell of it more now than you ever did before. People helping [00:23:05] people. [00:23:07] There's a constant flow of new visitors to the Legion, [00:23:11] many wanting to meet the famous Beulah. [00:23:15] Being a celebrity, I know you. And just as income [00:23:18] from away, visitors are made honorary [00:23:21] Newfoundlanders through the old tradition of being screeched in. [00:23:25] And yes, it means kissing a codfish, [00:23:29] blown away by the kindness of the people. And this experience [00:23:33] with kissing the fish and drinking the screech, [00:23:35] awesome. That's really, I think, beautiful story. And so I'm [00:23:39] very happy to come here, experience, you know, [00:23:42] the homeliness that everyone's told us about [00:23:47] a place known through history for taking in strangers a safe [00:23:52] harbor in a storm none greater or larger than September 11th. [00:24:07] ABOUT THAT EFFORT. LAURA WAS MENTIONING PETE [00:24:13] LAURA WAS MENTIONING PETE HOEKSTRA CAUGHT UP WITH THE U.S. [00:24:14] HOEKSTRA CAUGHT UP WITH THE U.S. AMBASSADOR WHEN HE ARRIVED HERE [00:24:17] AMBASSADOR WHEN HE ARRIVED HERE AT THE GANDER AIRPORT. [00:24:19] AT THE GANDER AIRPORT. HE SAYS TODAY SERVES AS A [00:24:23] HE SAYS TODAY SERVES AS A REMINDER WITH WHY CANADA AND REMINDER WITH WHY CANADA AND U.S. RELATIONSHIP MUST ENDURE [00:24:27] U.S. RELATIONSHIP MUST ENDURE >> 9/11 IS A SPECIAL DAY IN MANY [00:24:29] >> 9/11 IS A SPECIAL DAY IN MANY PLACES IN THE WORLD, ESPECIALLY [00:24:32] PLACES IN THE WORLD, ESPECIALLY IN NEW YORK AND WASHINGTON. IN NEW YORK AND WASHINGTON. AND GANDER. [00:24:36] AND GANDER. SOME REALLY GREAT THINGS SOME REALLY GREAT THINGS HAPPENING. [00:24:39] HAPPENING. THIS IS TO SAY ONE MORE TIME, THIS IS TO SAY ONE MORE TIME, THANK YOU. [00:24:42] THANK YOU. IT'S REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT TO IT'S REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT TO SAY THANK YOU. [00:24:45] SAY THANK YOU. >> David: COMING AT A TENSE TIME >> David: COMING AT A TENSE TIME BETWEEN OUR TWO COUNTRIES. [00:24:49] BETWEEN OUR TWO COUNTRIES. SOME PEOPLE DON'T WANT YOU HERE. [00:24:51] SOME PEOPLE DON'T WANT YOU HERE. I WONDER HOW YOU BRIDGE THAT? [00:24:54] I WONDER HOW YOU BRIDGE THAT? >> I KNOW HOW I BRIDGE IT. [00:24:57] >> I KNOW HOW I BRIDGE IT. THIS IS FOR THE PEOPLE THAT 9/11 [00:25:01] THIS IS FOR THE PEOPLE THAT 9/11 IMPACTED. IMPACTED. THE 3,000 PEOPLE THAT WERE THE 3,000 PEOPLE THAT WERE KILLED. [00:25:05] KILLED. THE 7,000 THAT MADE THEIR WAY TO THE 7,000 THAT MADE THEIR WAY TO GANDER. [00:25:07] GANDER. THE 9,000 PEOPLE IN GANDER THAT [00:25:10] THE 9,000 PEOPLE IN GANDER THAT OPENED THEIR HOMES, OPENED THEIR [00:25:13] OPENED THEIR HOMES, OPENED THEIR HEARTS TO 14 DIFFERENT [00:25:17] HEARTS TO 14 DIFFERENT COUNTRIES, PRIMARILY AMERICANS. [00:25:18] COUNTRIES, PRIMARILY AMERICANS. WE WILL GET BACK TO THE ECONOMIC [00:25:22] WE WILL GET BACK TO THE ECONOMIC ISSUES, AT LEAST FROM OUR [00:25:25] ISSUES, AT LEAST FROM OUR STANDPOINT WHEN WE GET PAST STANDPOINT WHEN WE GET PAST 9/11. [00:25:28] 9/11. >> I KNOW YOU GOT TO GO. >> I KNOW YOU GOT TO GO. I BRIEFLY ASK YOU, DO YOU SEE [00:25:32] I BRIEFLY ASK YOU, DO YOU SEE THIS AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO BRIDGE [00:25:34] THIS AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO BRIDGE THE GAP THAT HAS FORMED OVER THE [00:25:36] THE GAP THAT HAS FORMED OVER THE PAST WEEKS AND MONTHS? [00:25:39] PAST WEEKS AND MONTHS? AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT WHAT AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT WHAT THESE COUNTRIES HAVE BEEN IN [00:25:43] THESE COUNTRIES HAVE BEEN IN TERMS OF CLOSE FRIENDS? TERMS OF CLOSE FRIENDS? >> I THINK THIS IS AN [00:25:47] >> I THINK THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY -- EVERY DAY IS AN OPPORTUNITY -- EVERY DAY IS AN OPPORTUNITY. [00:25:51] OPPORTUNITY. WE OVER THE LAST 12 TO 16 [00:25:53] WE OVER THE LAST 12 TO 16 MONTHS, WE HAVE HAD REPEATED [00:25:55] MONTHS, WE HAVE HAD REPEATED INSTANCES OF CANADIANS HELPING [00:25:59] INSTANCES OF CANADIANS HELPING AMERICANS. AMERICANS. AMERICAN COASTGUARDSMAN WHO WAS [00:26:01] AMERICAN COASTGUARDSMAN WHO WAS HELPED BY YOUR FOLKS. [00:26:05] HELPED BY YOUR FOLKS. OUT IN VANCOUVER AND VICTORIA. [00:26:08] OUT IN VANCOUVER AND VICTORIA. >> David: CANADIAN COASTGUARD >> David: CANADIAN COASTGUARD INVOLVED IN THAT. [00:26:12] INVOLVED IN THAT. >> WE HAD YOUR SNOWMOBILERS OUT >> WE HAD YOUR SNOWMOBILERS OUT ON LAKE St. CLAIR. [00:26:15] ON LAKE St. CLAIR. WHEN THEY LOOKED BEHIND THEM, WHEN THEY LOOKED BEHIND THEM, THERE WASN'T ANY ICE. [00:26:18] THERE WASN'T ANY ICE. IT WAS LIKE, THIS IS NOT A GOOD IT WAS LIKE, THIS IS NOT A GOOD PLACE TO BE. [00:26:22] PLACE TO BE. AMERICAN COASTGUARD CAME AND AMERICAN COASTGUARD CAME AND RESCUED THEM. [00:26:24] RESCUED THEM. WE HAVE THESE THINGS HAPPENING WE HAVE THESE THINGS HAPPENING EACH AND EVERY DAY. [00:26:28] EACH AND EVERY DAY. SHOWING HOW MUCH WE CARE FOR SHOWING HOW MUCH WE CARE FOR EACH OTHER. [00:26:31] EACH OTHER. HOW MUCH WE LIKE EACH OTHER. HOW MUCH WE LIKE EACH OTHER. AND SO, ANY AND EVERY [00:26:34] AND SO, ANY AND EVERY OPPORTUNITY THAT WE HAVE TO [00:26:37] OPPORTUNITY THAT WE HAVE TO REINFORCE, YOU KNOW, THE [00:26:40] REINFORCE, YOU KNOW, THE HUMANITARIAN CONNECTIONS THAT WE [00:26:43] HUMANITARIAN CONNECTIONS THAT WE HAVE, EACH AND EVERY OPPORTUNITY HAVE, EACH AND EVERY OPPORTUNITY THAT WE HAVE TO TALK ABOUT THE [00:26:47] THAT WE HAVE TO TALK ABOUT THE ECONOMIC CONNECTIONS. [00:26:49] ECONOMIC CONNECTIONS. YOU KNOW, IT'S A TIME TO GO BACK [00:26:52] YOU KNOW, IT'S A TIME TO GO BACK AND REFLECT AND SAY, LET'S GET AND REFLECT AND SAY, LET'S GET THIS GUY. [00:26:55] THIS GUY. >> DO YOU RECOGNIZE POTENTIAL >> DO YOU RECOGNIZE POTENTIAL NOW? [00:26:59] NOW? >> SURE. >> SURE. THE TENSION -- I JUST SPENT SOME THE TENSION -- I JUST SPENT SOME TIME BACK IN THE STATES. [00:27:02] TIME BACK IN THE STATES. THE TENSION IS HIGHER HERE THAN [00:27:04] THE TENSION IS HIGHER HERE THAN WHAT IT IS IN THE STATES. [00:27:08] WHAT IT IS IN THE STATES. SO, YEAH, YOU GET MET AT THE [00:27:12] SO, YEAH, YOU GET MET AT THE AIRPORT BY A COUPLE OF CAMERAS AIRPORT BY A COUPLE OF CAMERAS AND MICROPHONE SAYING WHAT'S [00:27:15] AND MICROPHONE SAYING WHAT'S GOING ON. GOING ON. THE TENSION AND ALL OF THAT. THE TENSION AND ALL OF THAT. THEY ARE NOT [00:31:41] Do you recall what day of the week it was? [00:31:43] Tuesday. And I remember it was a Tuesday. [00:31:49] It was a Tuesday, wasn't it? [00:31:52] Yeah, the fact that it was a Tuesday [00:31:54] does stick with me. The way the sky looks sticks with me was a [00:31:59] glorious blue sky Tuesday morning. It was early in the [00:32:02] morning when we got the call to get ourselves to New York as [00:32:06] soon as possible. [00:32:16] My name is Joanna Romal Yodis. I'm a co-host at CBC's The 5th [00:32:21] Estate. 25 years ago when 911 happened, [00:32:23] I was a pretty new reporter to CBC's national network. [00:32:29] We were standing by the lake in Toronto. We were doing a story [00:32:33] about the state of the Great Lakes of Ontario. Usually we [00:32:37] would start a bit later, but I remember it was around [00:32:41] 8:30, Pretty soon after the camera [00:32:43] started rolling on our guest. The beepers were going off, [00:32:47] the phones were going off. It was really clear very quickly [00:32:51] that the assignment desk at CBC was trying to get in touch with [00:32:55] us. [00:32:57] Welcome back to the program. We've got some breaking news to [00:33:01] tell you about something we're just learning about ourselves [00:33:04] here. Apparently a small passenger plane has crashed [00:33:07] into one of the World Trade Towers. I was just listening to [00:33:10] an interview which was being done by an eyewitness. Not [00:33:13] exactly sure how large the plane was. The person thought [00:33:16] it was a a commercial jet that actually collided. [00:33:22] I'm Adrian or Snow. I'm a host of the National and chief [00:33:26] correspondent for CBC News. I was Washington correspondent on [00:33:30] 9/11. [00:33:32] My aunt and uncle were visiting from England. We were excited [00:33:40] September the 12th, to New York. We were going to [00:33:43] go see a play, going to go get the tickets at [00:33:47] the Trade Centre. I was getting ready for work and my uncle [00:33:51] sort of yelled and he said, 80, a plane has hit the tower. [00:33:56] And I was like, oh, that doesn't sound right. [00:34:01] And so I said, well, OK, I have to go to work [00:34:04] immediately. [00:34:07] I was walking very quickly, trying to get a cab [00:34:11] that sort of run, walk, shuffle you do when you're in a [00:34:15] big hurry. Eventually hailed, the cab got to the office [00:34:19] just moments after the second plane hit the tower, [00:34:25] and it appeared to back sharply and smash directly, [00:34:29] perhaps purposefully, into OHT. My goodness. Oh God, [00:34:33] there's another one. [00:34:36] OHP My goodness, there's another one. [00:34:42] I'm Paul Hunter, a senior correspondent for CBC [00:34:45] News in Washington. [00:34:47] In September 2001, [00:34:50] I was a freshly minted parliamentary reporter for the [00:34:54] CBC News Bureau in Ottawa. [00:34:57] I got into work in the Ottawa Parliamentary Bureau. At about [00:35:01] 9:10, [00:35:03] Chris Goldrich, who is another CBC News [00:35:06] reporter in the Bureau at the time, walks up to me and says, [00:35:09] Paul, did you hear what happened? [00:35:11] I go no, he goes, 2 planes have hit the World [00:35:14] Trade Centre. [00:35:16] Like what? [00:35:19] Like what are you talking about? Then you immediately go to Oh [00:35:23] my God, right? Like the people on board, [00:35:26] the people in the buildings, the people below. [00:35:31] What happened? [00:35:36] Come on man. [00:35:42] I'm David Coleman. I'm a senior correspondent and host with CBC [00:35:46] News. [00:35:48] I was living in Regina when 911 happened. I would go to [00:35:51] Afghanistan within a few months. [00:35:56] That morning when it happened, I was asleep and I got a phone [00:36:02] call waking me up telling me TuneIn and I did, [00:36:05] and I saw the second plane hit [00:36:09] and that was the moment that I realized that we all realized [00:36:14] this was no accident. [00:36:27] I think I spent maybe 5-6 minutes throwing a few things [00:36:31] in our in a bag. [00:36:34] And as we were driving to the airport, [00:36:36] this is all happening within half an hour. The second plane [00:36:40] had hit the airport was shutting down. I remember [00:36:43] standing there because people in newsrooms always stand when [00:36:47] something happens, saying what, what is this? [00:36:49] So we went back to the CBC. People were running around [00:36:53] trying to figure out what to do. And then they just said start [00:36:56] driving. This is going back to Washington right now. The [00:37:00] second front, if you will, of these terrorist attacks. And [00:37:03] then came word that the Pentagon had been hit. [00:37:07] That Pentagon, [00:37:09] and that's when I thought this isn't just America, [00:37:12] as symbolic as that is for the military might of America. The [00:37:15] fact that the Pentagon had been hit, [00:37:17] that this was not just the Twin Towers in New York, [00:37:20] but the Pentagon, like, what else is going on here? [00:37:23] This is like the planet is under attack. It was like this [00:37:26] is I thought the world was ending. The situation continues [00:37:30] to unfold before our eyes and a huge fear in the United States [00:37:33] right now that it's not over yet. Suddenly there was a [00:37:36] realization that there was another plane in the air. [00:37:40] So if there's a fourth plane, it's probably also coming for [00:37:43] Washington. What is what is the tallest thing that you could [00:37:47] hit in Washington? It's probably the Capitol building. [00:37:51] And so the decision was Adrian, you and Louie, Louie Deez, [00:37:54] our cameraman, you go. The news was coming in [00:37:57] through the radio. We didn't have smartphones at the time. [00:38:01] We had the radio on the whole time. And most of the time we [00:38:05] were driving in silence. And I remember it was being, [00:38:08] it was really tense. And as we are running to the capital, [00:38:12] it was like being a salmon trying to go upstream. [00:38:16] Yeah, everybody back. It was like all [00:38:19] of Washington was coming at us [00:38:23] because they were thinking the same thing we were, [00:38:26] that if there's another plane in the air, [00:38:29] it's probably going to be capital authorities on high [00:38:32] alert across the United States for any further attacks. I [00:38:35] remember when we crossed the border at Buffalo, [00:38:38] I remember the customs officer saying, why are you going? [00:38:41] And for a second, I think we all thought, [00:38:44] are they going to even let us cross the border? [00:38:47] And I remember we just said we're we're not. We're not [00:38:50] turning back. We just can't. You could see Parliament Hill [00:38:53] from my window [00:38:55] in the Bureau and there was all kinds of stuff going on because [00:38:59] the Canada didn't know what was happening. Or were there more? [00:39:03] Were were we a target? And I don't even think we [00:39:07] stopped to think like this is probably not a very good idea [00:39:11] to run to the capital. But as we were running and trying to [00:39:15] get there and sort of looking at the sky, [00:39:18] like what is this day? Then we got a call saying that [00:39:22] the 4th plane, Flight 93, had crashed [00:39:25] into a field in Pennsylvania. And that's happened 4 minutes [00:39:29] after we've all watched the South tower collapse. [00:39:37] And then another 25 minutes later the north tower collapses, [00:39:41] one plane colliding with 1 twin tower 18 minutes later. Oh my [00:39:45] God, [00:39:49] each one of these things in isolation would have been the [00:39:53] most horrific event a reporter might have covered in their [00:39:58] entire careers. And there were like 6 of them [00:40:02] in just under 2 hours. [00:40:07] I just did not know what to do first. [00:40:23] And then we got there and it was like unlike anything I've [00:40:26] ever seen. But I do remember it did not feel real. It felt like [00:40:31] we had just [00:40:32] driven into a movie set, [00:40:35] surrounded by ashes and mounds and people walking around in in [00:40:40] a completely dazed state. [00:40:51] I still see the imprint in my mind. It's, [00:40:53] it was like the the the remnants of the building almost [00:40:57] looked like skeletons because they were they were there, [00:41:00] but they weren't. And there was this ash, this thick, thick, [00:41:04] thick dust that [00:41:06] we now know was all sorts of metal and paper and [00:41:11] things that we don't really want to think about. But I [00:41:15] remember that scene, walking into it and thinking, [00:41:18] Oh my God, [00:41:22] my job that day was to [00:41:26] tell the story of how the Canadian government was [00:41:29] responding to what had happened in New York and Washington and [00:41:33] Pennsylvania. [00:41:35] And I was a journalist on that day. And that was my story. But [00:41:39] I was also somebody who was still trying to process this. [00:41:42] And and that's, that's all I wanted to do. I [00:41:45] just wanted to watch TV that day. I just wanted to see it [00:41:49] again and again and again. And I don't know why [00:41:54] I I think it's because we all felt that we had all been [00:41:58] attacked [00:42:00] in a kind of way. I wanted to grieve. I wanted to empathize, [00:42:07] but I also had to do my job. We all had to do our job and we [00:42:11] all had to ask questions and we all had to [00:42:15] meet with cabinet ministers and the Prime Minister and [00:42:19] tell Canadians what their country was doing. [00:42:23] Are we safe? [00:42:26] Where is this going? What's happening to try to [00:42:29] unpack some of this [00:42:32] horror show. [00:42:34] Some Canadians are already expressing their feelings here [00:42:38] at the US Embassy tonight, bringing flowers, [00:42:40] cards and poems in a show of sorrow and sympathy for [00:42:44] Americans everywhere. The CBC's Adrienne Arseneau joins us with [00:42:48] the latest. Adrian [00:42:50] Peter, Washington, DC is currently under a state [00:42:53] of emergency. And I look at the pictures because I haven't [00:42:57] looked at them in 25 years of doing it on camera or a [00:43:01] Talkback with Peter. And I look at the look on my face and I am [00:43:06] like a piece of stone. I am just completely flat and [00:43:09] clinical. And I've been trying to figure out what like what [00:43:13] that was because that's not that's not me as a person. But [00:43:18] two things come to mind. One I remember [00:43:20] being told a long time ago as a reporter, [00:43:23] when things are terrible around you, [00:43:25] you need to keep it together because if you lose it, [00:43:29] the people at home are are are very destabilized. But also, [00:43:33] I kind of think we were all in shock. I'm pretty sure that we [00:43:37] were just [00:43:39] stunned and on some form of This is the most serious day of [00:43:44] my life as a reporter and I need to step up [00:43:48] and [00:43:51] we're not going to get anything wrong and we are not going to [00:43:54] sleep. Joanna, what is the latest you can tell [00:43:57] us? Well, basic computer just what you [00:43:59] said now rescue a firefighters have been digging away at the [00:44:02] rubble all day. The fear is that there may be thousands of [00:44:06] people trapped beneath the rubble. That scene is still my [00:44:09] gosh, it comes right back. And I [00:44:11] remember when we were doing this phoner [00:44:14] because again, we had cell phones, [00:44:15] we didn't have smartphones. We, we didn't even have a live link [00:44:18] with the camera. I remember we were sitting in a fire truck [00:44:21] because we were trying to find a spot that was relatively [00:44:24] quiet because [00:44:26] you couldn't really speak with all the noise. And and there [00:44:29] was there were cranes, there were there were removing [00:44:32] rubble, there was huge tractors. I see [00:44:34] them here again. [00:44:36] People seemed overwhelmed by the enormity of the task ahead. [00:44:39] 1 firefighter told me he found one injured man earlier today, [00:44:43] and he kept repeating. Once I found one man, [00:44:45] God knows how many more people are in there. And I remember [00:44:48] that the one that would become something that we would hear a [00:44:51] lot, people were just coming in and [00:44:53] saying, if I could just save one person. [00:44:59] Alright, let's take a look. [00:45:02] The shockwaves from today's horror travel to Ottawa, [00:45:04] putting the national capital on alert. And Prime Minister Craig [00:45:07] Crazy. Look at this already, like just [00:45:11] heightened. Security was everywhere. Police doubled [00:45:14] their numbers on the streets just in case something were to [00:45:17] happen here in Ottawa, like there was [00:45:21] everywhere else on earth. There was confusion, confusion, [00:45:24] I think it's fair to say, in in the offices of power on [00:45:28] Parliament Hill. But there was also a determination that they [00:45:32] had to do something. So as airspace got shut down, [00:45:35] for example, airports across Canada started [00:45:38] receiving passenger jets that had crossed that halfway point [00:45:42] in Gander, in Halifax, In airports across the country, [00:45:45] Canadians reached out and embraced and welcomed and [00:45:48] empathized and gave safety and refuge [00:45:51] to people who had been traveling to the US on that [00:45:54] date. It was a remarkable moment in the history of this [00:45:58] country where Canadians demonstrated who Canadians are. [00:46:08] We came in last night. Canadian Hans Gerhardt is looking for [00:46:12] his son Ralph. We had a cell phone call and he said that [00:46:16] something happened at the World Trade Centre. A bomb or plane [00:46:20] hit the tower. I'm OK, we're OK. I love you. I call [00:46:24] you back later. He hasn't heard from him since Tuesday. [00:46:32] Anywhere you turned, everywhere you turned, [00:46:34] there was a story. It was almost like overnight [00:46:37] there was this eruption of humanity that came up. [00:46:41] This was before social media, so people came with copies of [00:46:45] photos, portraits that they had blown [00:46:48] up, duct tape to put them on like [00:46:50] utility poles and walls. [00:46:54] I remember thinking this is an incredibly heart wrenching [00:46:59] moment [00:47:01] and you don't blame a single person for holding on to the [00:47:04] hope that somebody might have seen that person wandering [00:47:07] somewhere, lost somewhere. But when you think of the futility of the action, [00:47:11] now that we know what we know, it makes it even sadder. What's [00:47:14] the best way to say it? It just felt like every day you [00:47:17] were getting another punch in the gut. Throughout the day, [00:47:20] fighter jets have been patrolling the air around [00:47:23] Washington, and as we understand it, [00:47:25] their orders are quite clear. If a plane enters restricted [00:47:28] airspace and cannot be urged out, then it will be shot. [00:47:31] Now this is a day that will always be a before and after. [00:47:36] And then on that day, in a moment, [00:47:40] sitting in my office in Washington, [00:47:43] I turned around and I opened my filing cabinet and I just, [00:47:47] I grabbed all the files I had in it and I threw them in the [00:47:51] garbage. Every story I've been working on, [00:47:53] I threw in the garbage [00:47:56] and I remember someone saying to me like, what are you doing? [00:48:00] And I said, nothing matters anymore. [00:48:02] Nothing that we worked on is ever going to see the light of [00:48:06] day. This is the new lens through which we're going to [00:48:09] have to look at everything from now on. Make no mistake, [00:50:15] the United States [00:50:18] will hunt down and punish those responsible for these cowardly [00:50:22] acts. In all the panic there were few moments to talk or [00:50:26] think of blame, but immediately many wondered [00:50:29] if this was the horrific handiwork of Islamic [00:50:32] fundamentalist and fugitive Osama bin Laden. Remember that [00:50:36] tonight, I think I think Adrian Arsenos [00:50:39] piece on September 11th mentioned Osama bin Laden [00:50:43] and I remember thinking who [00:50:45] al Qaeda, what's that? It's bizarre, like, [00:50:48] wait a minute, these are all but but by the [00:50:51] very quickly, by the next day, we [00:50:53] had a sense of, of [00:50:56] where these attacks had originated from. You know, [00:50:59] I remember watching Adrian and Paul and Joanna. I certainly [00:51:04] remember the [00:51:06] the shock of just trying to absorb everything they were, [00:51:10] they were telling us everything they were seeing in Afghanistan [00:51:14] came up. And [00:51:15] it became clear that al Qaeda was behind this attack, [00:51:19] that it had had safe haven in Afghanistan, [00:51:22] that some of the planning for 9/11 had happened there and [00:51:26] that undoubtedly al Qaeda was going to get hit and hit hard [00:51:30] by the Americans. And it wasn't long after 911 that in the [00:51:33] middle of the night and my uncle knocked on the door and [00:51:37] he said, you need to come outside and I [00:51:40] want you to listen to something. So we went out onto the balcony [00:51:44] and he said it's very faint, [00:51:47] but just listen. Can you hear planes? [00:51:50] And I could hear planes. And so my my uncle had been a [00:51:55] commander on an aircraft carrier for the Royal Navy. [00:51:59] And he said that is a sound of an aircraft carrier loading. He [00:52:02] said you're going to wake up in the morning and this country's [00:52:05] going to war. [00:52:07] And he was right. The invasion of Afghanistan started not long [00:52:11] after that. We know now that the attack has started both in [00:52:15] Kabul and from our reporting in Kandahar, [00:52:18] which is the spiritual centre of the Taliban regime. [00:52:22] I've had family members in the military and, and have, [00:52:26] you know, a better understanding than [00:52:29] some people of, of how the military operates [00:52:32] and how it deploys. And shortly after 911, [00:52:35] NATO met and met into this extraordinary, [00:52:38] unthinkable way and invoked for the first time ever Article 5, [00:52:42] which says an attack on one is an attack on all. And they [00:52:46] looked at the attack of 911 by al Qaeda on the United States [00:52:50] and said this is an attack on our entire alliance. And NATO [00:52:55] is now in this fight. It was [00:52:57] extraordinary tonight in the danger zone on the ground with [00:53:01] Canada's combat troops inside Afghanistan. Indian forces have [00:53:05] already been taking part in coalition operations in the air [00:53:09] and at sea. Now there are regular troops on the ground. [00:53:13] Canada is in mourning tonight over a tragic mistake during a [00:53:17] war on the other side of the world. There was on April 17th, [00:53:21] 2002, this [00:53:23] incident, 4 Canadian soldiers were killed [00:53:26] when in two American fighter jets came out of the sky and [00:53:30] hit them just outside of the Kandahar Air Base as they were [00:53:34] on a training exercise. They'd been deployed to Afghanistan to [00:53:38] be part of the American Global War on Terror, [00:53:41] and it was the Americans who ended up bombing them. I was [00:53:46] eager to. [00:53:47] To be part of this big story. And so very shortly after [00:53:51] friendly fire, I was on a plane out of Regina, [00:53:55] SK and on my way to Kandahar, Afghanistan. And the troops say [00:54:00] as awful as the accident was, it is imperative the mission in [00:54:04] Afghanistan go on. Canadians are in command of the ground [00:54:09] assault dubbed Operation Tory. [00:54:13] The dust in the wind make it almost uninhabitable, [00:54:16] but this is home to 80, 000 Afghans, [00:54:18] those who fled the Taliban, the drought and the bombing [00:54:22] raids by coalition forces. [00:54:25] These are the people who, you know, [00:54:28] had no idea that not what 911 was or that it had happened or [00:54:31] that a lot of it had been planned in the country they [00:54:34] lived. They were just trying to get on with their lives. And [00:54:37] this was, [00:54:39] this was the impact of it all. I always look at the kids and I, [00:54:43] anytime I look at Afghan kids, I, you know, [00:54:46] I think about, [00:54:48] you know, well, are they alive? [00:54:55] We talk about and we should talk about the 158 Canadian [00:54:59] soldiers who were killed in Afghanistan and we should also [00:55:02] think about those who survived. When a country makes a decision [00:55:06] to to go to war, it makes that decision for [00:55:09] generations because people come back from that war changed. [00:55:14] At the end of the day, which stays with you. In your [00:55:17] heart are the people that are [00:55:19] caught in stories that they didn't want to be part of. [00:55:23] Canadian Kimmy Shadal struggles not to let go. Honey, [00:55:26] her husband is among the missing. She wears his clothes [00:55:29] to keep him near. I just feel like I gotta find him and I [00:55:32] gotta bring him home one way or another. My gosh. We stay in [00:55:36] touch with Kimmy. I still stay in touch with her [00:55:40] and she continues to do, you know, [00:55:43] events in her husband's name. [00:55:48] She's Building Schools in Africa now. But she used to [00:55:51] hold triathlons in his name. And we've stayed in touch. And [00:55:55] it's, it's, you know, [00:55:57] it's strange that I have the this bond with a woman who was [00:56:00] a stranger 25 years ago. But there's something in that [00:56:03] moment and emotions were so exposed [00:56:06] during the time where we are in New York that the connections [00:56:08] that we made, even with people that we only [00:56:10] met for a few minutes, they just stayed [00:56:15] all over Canada. Things just kind of stopped today as [00:56:19] Canadians prayed for and thought of those who were [00:56:23] killed and the world that has changed. [00:56:30] I didn't expect that [00:56:32] to tear me up, but it did. [00:56:35] Because [00:56:37] I went to Parliament Hill [00:56:40] with hundreds, thousands who turned out [00:56:45] to share grief with, in 2001, our American friends. [00:56:57] It was a different time. I think it's fair to say that [00:57:02] there's no small degree of trying to process where the [00:57:05] relationship between the two countries is. Now, [00:57:07] I don't mean to draw politics into this, but how can you not? [00:57:11] And it's a very, to look back 25 years ago, [00:57:14] um, [00:57:15] and to hear some of the rhetoric from some quarters now, [00:57:24] it's heartbreaking. [00:57:26] Within days, um, the United States changed and [00:57:31] has never gone back. It has changed everything about how we [00:57:36] travel. [00:57:39] It has changed everything about our individual liberties and [00:57:44] freedoms when going in and out of the United States. Its [00:57:48] security became associated with patriotism, [00:57:51] the Islamophobia that happened after 911 [00:57:56] took root. [00:57:59] Al Qaida, Oh my God, there's just the world. [00:58:05] I can't think of an area of foreign policy or domestic [00:58:08] policy in the United States, and by extension elsewhere in [00:58:12] the world that hasn't been changed by 911. [00:58:15] Like, I just can't. I just can't think of 1. [01:00:37] TEST TEST TEST >>> TWO AIRPLANES HAVE CRASHED INTO WORLD TRADE [01:00:41] CENTRE IN AN APPARENT TERRORIST ATTACK ON OUR [01:00:44] COUNTRY. [01:00:51] [SIRENS] [♪♪] [01:00:55] >> THOSE ALLIANCES WE HOLD [01:00:58] DEAR SEEMS TO BE PAYING OFF AS PEOPLE COME FORWARD TO [01:01:01] HELP US. >> I DON'T THINK WHAT WENT