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[00:00:01] a place known through history for taking in strangers a safe
[00:00:06] harbor in a storm none greater or larger than September 11th.
[00:00:33] APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. >> THANK YOU, PETER. >> THANK YOU, PETER. >> Peter: PRIME MINISTER MARK
[00:00:37] >> Peter: PRIME MINISTER MARK CARNEY CONVENED HIS CABINET IN CARNEY CONVENED HIS CABINET IN BANFF, ALBERTA, THIS WEEK, AHEAD
[00:00:40] BANFF, ALBERTA, THIS WEEK, AHEAD OF THAT INVESTMENT SUMMIT.
[00:00:43] OF THAT INVESTMENT SUMMIT. >> CANADA IS SEEN AS A VERY >> CANADA IS SEEN AS A VERY DESIRABLE PLACE TO INVEST.
[00:00:45] DESIRABLE PLACE TO INVEST. I MEAN THE PRIME MINISTER'S I MEAN THE PRIME MINISTER'S INVESTMENT SUMMIT IS COMING UP.
[00:00:48] INVESTMENT SUMMIT IS COMING UP. PEOPLE ARE BANGING THE DOOR DOWN PEOPLE ARE BANGING THE DOOR DOWN TO TALK TO CANADA. TO TALK TO CANADA. TO FIGURE OUT HOW THEY CAN
[00:00:52] TO FIGURE OUT HOW THEY CAN INVEST IN CANADA. INVEST IN CANADA. THE FOCUS FOR US IS VERY MUCH
[00:00:55] THE FOCUS FOR US IS VERY MUCH BUILDING UP CANADA'S STRENGTH BUILDING UP CANADA'S STRENGTH AND CAPACITY TO MOVE QUICKLY AND
[00:00:58] AND CAPACITY TO MOVE QUICKLY AND TO PIVOT TO NEW MARKETS, NEW
[00:01:01] TO PIVOT TO NEW MARKETS, NEW PRODUCTS, SUPPORT EMPLOYERS, AND
[00:01:03] PRODUCTS, SUPPORT EMPLOYERS, AND SUPPORT WORKERS TO MANAGE THAT SUPPORT WORKERS TO MANAGE THAT PIVOT.
[00:01:06] PIVOT. >> NOW, THAT PIVOT AWAY FROM THE >> NOW, THAT PIVOT AWAY FROM THE U.S. IS A KEY FOCUS OF THE
[00:01:09] U.S. IS A KEY FOCUS OF THE CABINET RETREAT, SO, OF COURSE, CABINET RETREAT, SO, OF COURSE, IS THE ESCALATING U.S. TRADE
[00:01:13] IS THE ESCALATING U.S. TRADE WAR. WAR. MY COLLEAGUE OLIVIA STEFANOVICH MY COLLEAGUE OLIVIA STEFANOVICH JOINS US NOW FROM BANFF.
[00:01:17] JOINS US NOW FROM BANFF. WHAT HAVE YOU BEEN HEARING TODAY WHAT HAVE YOU BEEN HEARING TODAY COMING OUT OF THE MEETING?
[00:01:21] COMING OUT OF THE MEETING? >> WELL, YOU KNOW, THE TRADE WAR >> WELL, YOU KNOW, THE TRADE WAR WITH THE U.S., THIS ESCALATING
[00:01:24] WITH THE U.S., THIS ESCALATING DISPUTE, PETER, IS TOP OF MIND DISPUTE, PETER, IS TOP OF MIND AS CABINET MINISTERS PREPARE
[00:01:28] AS CABINET MINISTERS PREPARE WHAT THEY ARE DESCRIBING AS A WHAT THEY ARE DESCRIBING AS A BUSY LEGISLATIVE AGENDA FOR THE
[00:01:31] BUSY LEGISLATIVE AGENDA FOR THE RETURN OF PARLIAMENT IN ABOUT RETURN OF PARLIAMENT IN ABOUT TEN DAYS FROM NOW.
[00:01:34] TEN DAYS FROM NOW. ONE OF THE BILLS THAT THE ONE OF THE BILLS THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS WORKING ON
[00:01:37] FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS WORKING ON TO INTRODUCE LATER THIS FALL IS
[00:01:39] TO INTRODUCE LATER THIS FALL IS ONE THAT WOULD HELP FAST-TRACK
[00:01:42] ONE THAT WOULD HELP FAST-TRACK MAJOR RESOURCE AND ENERGY AND MAJOR RESOURCE AND ENERGY AND INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS ACROSS
[00:01:45] INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS ACROSS THE COUNTRY. THE COUNTRY. NOW, THE GOAL HERE IS TO CREATE
[00:01:48] NOW, THE GOAL HERE IS TO CREATE ONE REVIEW FOR THESE PROJECTS. ONE REVIEW FOR THESE PROJECTS. AND WHAT IS INTERESTING ABOUT
[00:01:51] AND WHAT IS INTERESTING ABOUT THIS PIECE OF PROPOSED THIS PIECE OF PROPOSED LEGISLATION THAT THE GOVERNMENT
[00:01:54] LEGISLATION THAT THE GOVERNMENT WANTS TO INTRODUCE, PETER, IS WANTS TO INTRODUCE, PETER, IS THAT THIS WOULD ACTUALLY AFFECT
[00:01:58] THAT THIS WOULD ACTUALLY AFFECT ALL PROJECTS, NOT JUST THE ONES ALL PROJECTS, NOT JUST THE ONES REFERRED TO THE MAJOR PROJECTS REFERRED TO THE MAJOR PROJECTS OFFICE.
[00:02:02] OFFICE. NOW THERE ARE, OF COURSE, A LOT NOW THERE ARE, OF COURSE, A LOT OF CONCERNS IN THIS COUNTRY
[00:02:05] OF CONCERNS IN THIS COUNTRY ABOUT WHAT THIS COULD MEAN FOR ABOUT WHAT THIS COULD MEAN FOR THE ENVIRONMENT, INDIGENOUS
[00:02:08] THE ENVIRONMENT, INDIGENOUS CONSULTATION, AND CABINET HAS CONSULTATION, AND CABINET HAS BEEN HEARING FROM EXPERTS OVER
[00:02:11] BEEN HEARING FROM EXPERTS OVER THE LAST FEW DAYS TO GET THEIR THE LAST FEW DAYS TO GET THEIR ADVICE ON HOW TO NAVIGATE THOSE ADVICE ON HOW TO NAVIGATE THOSE CHALLENGES.
[00:02:14] CHALLENGES. THIS IS ALL PART OF THE THIS IS ALL PART OF THE GOVERNMENT'S EFFORT TO BUILD UP
[00:02:17] GOVERNMENT'S EFFORT TO BUILD UP THE ECONOMY, STRENGTHEN IT, AND THE ECONOMY, STRENGTHEN IT, AND MOVE AWAY FROM CANADA'S MOVE AWAY FROM CANADA'S OVERRELIANCE ON THE UNITED
[00:02:21] OVERRELIANCE ON THE UNITED STATES. STATES. AND ONE OF THE PROJECTS THAT AND ONE OF THE PROJECTS THAT WE'RE HEARING A LOT ABOUT IN
[00:02:25] WE'RE HEARING A LOT ABOUT IN THIS PROVINCE, OF COURSE, IS THE THIS PROVINCE, OF COURSE, IS THE PROPOSED NEW OIL PIPELINE FROM
[00:02:28] PROPOSED NEW OIL PIPELINE FROM ALBERTA TO THE WEST COAST. ALBERTA TO THE WEST COAST. THE PRIME MINISTER HAS NOT GIVEN
[00:02:31] THE PRIME MINISTER HAS NOT GIVEN HIS FINAL APPROVAL ON THIS YET. HIS FINAL APPROVAL ON THIS YET. THE DECISION IS EXPECTED SOON
[00:02:35] THE DECISION IS EXPECTED SOON BEFORE THE UPCOMING ALBERTA BEFORE THE UPCOMING ALBERTA REFERENDUM WHICH TAKES PLACE
[00:02:38] REFERENDUM WHICH TAKES PLACE NEXT MONTH ON OCTOBER 19th. NEXT MONTH ON OCTOBER 19th. NOW, THAT VOTE COULD LEAD TO A
[00:02:42] NOW, THAT VOTE COULD LEAD TO A SEPARATE REFERENDUM ON SEPARATE REFERENDUM ON SEPARATION WHICH IS SOMETHING
[00:02:44] SEPARATION WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT MARK CARNEY SAYS HE DOESN'T THAT MARK CARNEY SAYS HE DOESN'T WANT TO SEE HAPPEN. WANT TO SEE HAPPEN. AND SO AS HE CONCLUDED HIS
[00:02:49] AND SO AS HE CONCLUDED HIS CABINET PLANNING FORUM TODAY, CABINET PLANNING FORUM TODAY, PETER, HE MET WITH ALBERTANS --
[00:02:52] PETER, HE MET WITH ALBERTANS -- A GROUP OF THEM -- WHO WANT TO A GROUP OF THEM -- WHO WANT TO STAY IN CANADA.
[00:02:54] STAY IN CANADA. AND AS PART OF THIS PHOTO OP AND AS PART OF THIS PHOTO OP THAT THEY HELD, THEY ACTUALLY
[00:02:57] THAT THEY HELD, THEY ACTUALLY BROKE OUT IN, OF COURSE, SANG "O BROKE OUT IN, OF COURSE, SANG "O CANADA."
[00:03:01] CANADA." >> Peter: ALL RIGHT, >> Peter: ALL RIGHT, CANADA/U.S. MINISTER DOMINIC
[00:03:04] CANADA/U.S. MINISTER DOMINIC LeBLANC WAS ALSO AMONG LeBLANC WAS ALSO AMONG THOSE -- I DON'T KNOW IF HE WAS THOSE -- I DON'T KNOW IF HE WAS THE ONE SINGING.
[00:03:08] THE ONE SINGING. BUT WAS TALKING TO REPORTERS BUT WAS TALKING TO REPORTERS TODAY. TODAY. WHAT DID HE HAVE TO SAY?
[00:03:11] WHAT DID HE HAVE TO SAY? >> NO. >> NO. WELL, WHAT HE HAD TO SAY, PETER,
[00:03:13] WELL, WHAT HE HAD TO SAY, PETER, HE WAS ADDRESSING SOME REPORTINT
[00:03:16] HE WAS ADDRESSING SOME REPORTINT MEXICO APPEARS TO BE CLOSING IN MEXICO APPEARS TO BE CLOSING IN ON ITS OWN TRADE DEAL WITH THE
[00:03:19] ON ITS OWN TRADE DEAL WITH THE U.S. WHILE TRADE TALKS REMAIN
[00:03:22] U.S. WHILE TRADE TALKS REMAIN FROZEN BETWEEN THE U.S. AND FROZEN BETWEEN THE U.S. AND CANADA.
[00:03:25] CANADA. NOW THIS IS COMING FROM REUTERS, NOW THIS IS COMING FROM REUTERS, SAYING THAT MEXICO IS SPEEDING
[00:03:28] SAYING THAT MEXICO IS SPEEDING TOWARDS A NEW TRADE DEAL WITH TOWARDS A NEW TRADE DEAL WITH THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION AND THE
[00:03:31] THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION AND THE GOAL WOULD BE TO SIGN IT BEFORE GOAL WOULD BE TO SIGN IT BEFORE THE U.S. MID-TERMS.
[00:03:35] THE U.S. MID-TERMS. NOW CANADA REMAINS AT A NOW CANADA REMAINS AT A STANDSTILL WITH THE U.S. WHEN IT
[00:03:38] STANDSTILL WITH THE U.S. WHEN IT COMES TO RESUMING TRADE COMES TO RESUMING TRADE NEGOTIATIONS.
[00:03:41] NEGOTIATIONS. AND DOMINIC LeBLANC, THE AND DOMINIC LeBLANC, THE MINISTER RESPONSIBLE FOR MINISTER RESPONSIBLE FOR CANADA/U.S. TRADE, HE'S BRUSHING
[00:03:45] CANADA/U.S. TRADE, HE'S BRUSHING OFF CONCERNS THAT THIS SEPARATE OFF CONCERNS THAT THIS SEPARATE DEAL WITH MEXICO COULD IMPACT
[00:03:49] DEAL WITH MEXICO COULD IMPACT CANADA. CANADA. HE SAYS THAT HE STILL BELIEVES
[00:03:51] HE SAYS THAT HE STILL BELIEVES DESPITE THE FACT THAT TENSIONS DESPITE THE FACT THAT TENSIONS ARE SO HIGH BETWEEN CANADA AND
[00:03:54] ARE SO HIGH BETWEEN CANADA AND THE U.S. THAT ALL THREE THE U.S. THAT ALL THREE COUNTRIES CAN GET BACK TO THE
[00:03:57] COUNTRIES CAN GET BACK TO THE TABLE TO REVIEW THE CANADA TABLE TO REVIEW THE CANADA UNITED STATES MEXICO TRADE
[00:04:00] UNITED STATES MEXICO TRADE AGREEMENT NO KNOWN AS CUSMA, AGREEMENT NO KNOWN AS CUSMA, DESPITE VOCAL OPPOSITION FROM
[00:04:04] DESPITE VOCAL OPPOSITION FROM THE U.S. PRESIDENT. THE U.S. PRESIDENT. HAVE A LISTEN.
[00:04:06] HAVE A LISTEN. >> I WAS ENCOURAGED BY COMMENTS
[00:04:10] >> I WAS ENCOURAGED BY COMMENTS BY PRESIDENT SHEINBAUM, I THINK, BY PRESIDENT SHEINBAUM, I THINK, LAST WEEK WHERE SHE REITERATED
[00:04:13] LAST WEEK WHERE SHE REITERATED HER VIEW IT WOULD BE GOOD IF ALL HER VIEW IT WOULD BE GOOD IF ALL THREE COUNTRIES WERE WORKING AT
[00:04:17] THREE COUNTRIES WERE WORKING AT THE SAME TABLE AROUND THE REVIEW
[00:04:21] THE SAME TABLE AROUND THE REVIEW RENEWAL, WE HOPE, OF CUSMA.
[00:04:23] RENEWAL, WE HOPE, OF CUSMA. OF THE USMCA.
[00:04:28] OF THE USMCA. TMEC, SAME AGREEMENT. TMEC, SAME AGREEMENT. THREE NAMES.
[00:04:32] THREE NAMES. SO WE REMAIN OPTIMISTIC THAT WE
[00:04:34] SO WE REMAIN OPTIMISTIC THAT WE WILL GET THERE.
[00:04:36] WILL GET THERE. >> NOW, DESPITE THE FACT THAT >> NOW, DESPITE THE FACT THAT TRADE TALKS REMAIN FROZEN
[00:04:39] TRADE TALKS REMAIN FROZEN BETWEEN CANADA AND THE UNITED
[00:04:41] BETWEEN CANADA AND THE UNITED STATES, LEBLANC SAYS HE'S STILL STATES, LEBLANC SAYS HE'S STILL IN REGULAR CONTACT WITH HIS
[00:04:45] IN REGULAR CONTACT WITH HIS AMERICAN COUNTERPARTS. AMERICAN COUNTERPARTS. THAT INCLUDES THE U.S. TRADE
[00:04:48] THAT INCLUDES THE U.S. TRADE REPRESENTATIVE JAMIESON GREER REPRESENTATIVE JAMIESON GREER AND ALSO THE COMMERCE SECRETARY
[00:04:51] AND ALSO THE COMMERCE SECRETARY HOWARD LUTNICK WHO LEBLANC SAID HOWARD LUTNICK WHO LEBLANC SAID HE TEXTED EARLIER TODAY TO SAY
[00:04:54] HE TEXTED EARLIER TODAY TO SAY HE IS THINKING OF LUTNICK AND HE IS THINKING OF LUTNICK AND HIS FAMILY SINCE LUTNICK'S
[00:04:57] HIS FAMILY SINCE LUTNICK'S BROTHER WORKED IN THE WORLD BROTHER WORKED IN THE WORLD TRADE CENTRE ON 9/11 AND WAS
[00:05:00] TRADE CENTRE ON 9/11 AND WAS KILLED IN THE TERRORIST ATTACK KILLED IN THE TERRORIST ATTACK 25 YEARS AGO.
[00:05:03] 25 YEARS AGO. >> Peter: INDEED. >> Peter: INDEED. ALL RIGHT, THANKS AS ALWAYS FOR ALL RIGHT, THANKS AS ALWAYS FOR THIS. THIS. THE CBC'S
[00:05:10] [♪♪] >> Natasha: WE CONTINUE TO >> Natasha: WE CONTINUE TO FOLLOW BREAKING NEWS.
[00:05:13] FOLLOW BREAKING NEWS. AUTO MAKER STELLANTIS SAYS IT AUTO MAKER STELLANTIS SAYS IT HAS SIGNED A MEMORANDUM OF
[00:05:17] HAS SIGNED A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING WITH A CANADIAN UNDERSTANDING WITH A CANADIAN ARMOURED VEHICLE MAKER TO
[00:05:21] ARMOURED VEHICLE MAKER TO POTENTIALLY SELL ITS IDLE POTENTIALLY SELL ITS IDLE BRAMPTON, ONTARIO ASSEMBLY
[00:05:25] BRAMPTON, ONTARIO ASSEMBLY PLANT. PLANT. THIS COMES AS TALKS BETWEEN
[00:05:28] THIS COMES AS TALKS BETWEEN STELLANTIS AND UNIFOR HAS STELLANTIS AND UNIFOR HAS BROKEN OFF.
[00:05:31] BROKEN OFF. WHAT'S THE LATEST? WHAT'S THE LATEST? >> Reporter: YEAH, SO UNIFOR
[00:05:36] >> Reporter: YEAH, SO UNIFOR HAS RELEASED A NEW STATEMENT HAS RELEASED A NEW STATEMENT THIS MORNING SAYING THAT
[00:05:38] THIS MORNING SAYING THAT CONTRACT TALKS BETWEEN UNIFOR
[00:05:41] CONTRACT TALKS BETWEEN UNIFOR AND STELLANTIS HAVE REACHED AN AND STELLANTIS HAVE REACHED AN IMPASSE.
[00:05:45] IMPASSE. IT SAYS THAT THE TWO PARTIES IT SAYS THAT THE TWO PARTIES HAVE BEEN IN INTENSIVE
[00:05:48] HAVE BEEN IN INTENSIVE NEGOTIATIONS FOR TEN DAYS NOW NEGOTIATIONS FOR TEN DAYS NOW IN TORONTO BUT NOW FORMAL TALKS
[00:05:51] IN TORONTO BUT NOW FORMAL TALKS HAVE PAUSED AFTER BOTH SIDES
[00:05:53] HAVE PAUSED AFTER BOTH SIDES FAILED TO REACH A TENTATIVE
[00:05:56] FAILED TO REACH A TENTATIVE AGREEMENT BY THEIR DEADLINE, AGREEMENT BY THEIR DEADLINE, SEPTEMBER 11, WHICH IS TODAY.
[00:05:59] SEPTEMBER 11, WHICH IS TODAY. THIS COMES AT THE SAME TIME AS
[00:06:01] THIS COMES AT THE SAME TIME AS STELLANTIS SAYS IT'S SIGNED A
[00:06:05] STELLANTIS SAYS IT'S SIGNED A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING
[00:06:10] MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING WITH RACHEL, AN ARMOURED
[00:06:14] WITH RACHEL, AN ARMOURED VEHICLE MAKER. VEHICLE MAKER. THE HEAT OF THE AUTO MAKER
[00:06:17] THE HEAT OF THE AUTO MAKER GIANT SAYS AFTER CONSIDERING A GIANT SAYS AFTER CONSIDERING A NUMBER OF OPPORTUNITIES AND I'M
[00:06:20] NUMBER OF OPPORTUNITIES AND I'M GOING TO READ THE QUOTE HERE,
[00:06:25] GOING TO READ THE QUOTE HERE, "STELLANTIS BELIEVES RACHEL
[00:06:30] "STELLANTIS BELIEVES RACHEL REPRESENTS A STRONG PATH TO
[00:06:34] REPRESENTS A STRONG PATH TO REINTRODUCED OPERATIONS AFTER A REINTRODUCED OPERATIONS AFTER A LONG PERIOD OF INACTIVITY."
[00:06:38] LONG PERIOD OF INACTIVITY." THEY SAID THEY WON'T COMMENT THEY SAID THEY WON'T COMMENT ANY FURTHER OUT OF RESPECT FOR
[00:06:42] ANY FURTHER OUT OF RESPECT FOR THE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING THE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING PROCESS WITH UNIFOR.
[00:06:46] PROCESS WITH UNIFOR. THIS NEW PLAN FOR THE BRAMPTON
[00:06:48] THIS NEW PLAN FOR THE BRAMPTON PLANT IS CENTRAL TO THE
[00:06:51] PLANT IS CENTRAL TO THE IMPASSE, SAYING THAT STELLANTIS
[00:06:53] IMPASSE, SAYING THAT STELLANTIS WENT BACK ON A PROMISE TO WENT BACK ON A PROMISE TO INVEST IN BRAMPTON SO THIS NEW
[00:06:57] INVEST IN BRAMPTON SO THIS NEW AGREEMENT THAT STELLANTIS HAS AGREEMENT THAT STELLANTIS HAS PUT FORWARD IS DEFINITELY FOR
[00:07:00] PUT FORWARD IS DEFINITELY FOR THE UNION A WALK-BACK ON THAT THE UNION A WALK-BACK ON THAT AND A PART OF WHY THEY CANNOT
[00:07:04] AND A PART OF WHY THEY CANNOT REACH A DEAL HERE. REACH A DEAL HERE. NATASHA?
[00:07:07] NATASHA? >> Natasha: OKAY. >> Natasha: OKAY. JESS, LET'S TALK A LITTLE BIT
[00:07:10] JESS, LET'S TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT BECAUSE THE MORE ABOUT THAT BECAUSE THE POTENTIAL SALE OF THAT IDLE
[00:07:13] POTENTIAL SALE OF THAT IDLE PLANT IS COMING AS THE TWO
[00:07:16] PLANT IS COMING AS THE TWO PARTIES, STELLANTIS AND UNIFOR,
[00:07:21] PARTIES, STELLANTIS AND UNIFOR, HAVE BEEN IN INTENSIVE
[00:07:23] HAVE BEEN IN INTENSIVE BARGAINING NEGOTIATIONS TO BARGAINING NEGOTIATIONS TO REACH A DEAL.
[00:07:26] REACH A DEAL. >> Reporter: THIS IS PART OF >> Reporter: THIS IS PART OF NEGOTIATING WITH THE BIG THREE
[00:07:29] NEGOTIATING WITH THE BIG THREE AUTO MAKERS, SO THAT INCLUDES
[00:07:32] AUTO MAKERS, SO THAT INCLUDES FORD AUTO COMPANY AND GENERAL FORD AUTO COMPANY AND GENERAL MOTORS.
[00:07:36] MOTORS. NOW THE BIG CONCERN IS JOB NOW THE BIG CONCERN IS JOB SECURITY AND THIS COMES AFTER
[00:07:39] SECURITY AND THIS COMES AFTER 2,000 WORKERS WERE LAID OFF 2,000 WORKERS WERE LAID OFF FROM THE BRAMPTON PLANT THAT WE FROM THE BRAMPTON PLANT THAT WE JUST TALKED ABOUT.
[00:07:43] JUST TALKED ABOUT. LAST MONTH THE UNION SAID THAT LAST MONTH THE UNION SAID THAT IT ACTUALLY RECEIVED NOTICE
[00:07:46] IT ACTUALLY RECEIVED NOTICE FROM STELLANTIS THAT IT WAS FROM STELLANTIS THAT IT WAS CONSIDERING CLOSING AND SELLING
[00:07:50] CONSIDERING CLOSING AND SELLING THE PLANT AFTER IT WAS ACTUALLY THE PLANT AFTER IT WAS ACTUALLY SLATED TO BE RETOOLED TO BE A
[00:07:53] SLATED TO BE RETOOLED TO BE A JEEP PRODUCTION PLANT AND SO JEEP PRODUCTION PLANT AND SO THE UNION IS REALLY LOOKING AT
[00:07:56] THE UNION IS REALLY LOOKING AT THIS AS A WALK-BACK. THIS AS A WALK-BACK. IT GIVES SOME CONTEXT AS TO WHY
[00:08:00] IT GIVES SOME CONTEXT AS TO WHY THIS M.O.U. HAS REALLY STA
[00:09:30] Iranian backed Houthi militants say they're expanding their
[00:09:33] control in the area of a critical shipping waterway off
[00:09:36] the coast of Yemen. This time we're talking about the Bab Al
[00:09:39] Mandeb Strait. And it's a key shipping route for Middle
[00:09:42] Eastern countries, but also for Asian and Western
[00:09:45] oil markets that have turned to it because of the ongoing US
[00:09:49] war with Iran. CBC's Julia Chapman has more from London.
[00:09:52] The rapid advance of the Houthis over the past week has
[00:09:56] given them fresh leverage over the Bab El Mandeb Strait. After
[00:10:00] seizing the port city of Mocha yesterday,
[00:10:03] they've reportedly taken control of another town on the
[00:10:06] Red Sea, as well as an island in the
[00:10:08] Babel Mandeep called Perim. Now, this hasn't been confirmed by
[00:10:12] the Houthis, but it would give them a new
[00:10:15] vantage point to carry out strikes on ships moving through
[00:10:19] the Strait. The group, which is backed by Iran,
[00:10:22] says it doesn't plan to target
[00:10:24] international shipping, but it will continue its
[00:10:27] previously announced blockade against Saudi oil exports. Now,
[00:10:31] this is a big problem for Saudi Arabia,
[00:10:34] which is becoming increasingly reliant on the Babel Mandat
[00:10:38] because of tensions in the Strait of Hormuz. Now,
[00:10:41] Saudi Arabia is the biggest backer of the internationally
[00:10:45] recognized government in Yemen. It's provided substantial
[00:10:49] military support over recent years,
[00:10:52] but recently it has been reluctant to engage militarily
[00:10:55] with the Houthis, preferring instead dialogue.
[00:10:59] And that since the ceasefire between the two sides that was
[00:11:03] brokered in 2022 but sort of collapsed into a stalemate. Now,
[00:11:07] the Houthis have recently stepped up their attacks
[00:11:11] against Saudi Arabian oil facilities. And the rapid
[00:11:15] advance that the Houthis have carried out in recent days does
[00:11:19] leave Saudi Arabia looking a little bit weak,
[00:11:22] as if it's been taken by surprise. It is reportedly
[00:11:26] trying to persuade
[00:11:27] the US to take action alongside it. It has reportedly been
[00:11:31] carrying out strikes on the city of Mocha today. But this
[00:11:35] situation does leave it with a predicament to either return to
[00:11:39] dialogue with the Houthis, try to achieve a negotiated
[00:11:43] settlement, or continue fighting with the
[00:11:46] group. Now, why is this happening now? Well,
[00:11:49] analysts say that the Houthis have been emboldened by the
[00:11:53] wars in Gaza and the one between Iran and the United
[00:11:56] States. And they are taking advantage of
[00:11:59] a situation where global oil prices have been rising. They
[00:12:03] have been going up because of the tensions in the Strait of
[00:12:06] Hormuz, but they've also been affected
[00:12:09] by the recent events in Yemen. And that has implications for
[00:12:13] countries all over the world. There is also a human cost of
[00:12:16] this fighting. There have been hundreds of people reportedly
[00:12:20] killed in recent days of renewed clashes. And the United
[00:12:24] Nations says more than 46, 000 people have been forced to
[00:12:27] flee from territories taken by the Houthis
[00:12:30] in recent days. Julia Chapman, CBC News,
[00:12:33] London And those increasing tensions in the Middle East are
[00:12:36] having a further impact on the price of fuel. In North America,
[00:12:40] the price of oil and gas has been sharply up for months and
[00:12:44] now also includes diesel. The ongoing US war with Iran is the
[00:12:48] main driver of that increase. That has pushed diesel to a
[00:12:52] record $6 per gallon South of the border. It's the main fuel
[00:12:56] source for freight and delivery networks,
[00:12:58] and businesses are forced to absorb the extra
[00:13:01] cost. They're already passing it on to consumers.
[00:15:05] ♪ ♪ >> Louise: AMERICANS MARK THE
[00:15:10] >> Louise: AMERICANS MARK THE 25TH ANNIVERSARY 25TH ANNIVERSARY OF SEPTEMBER 11TH TERROR ATTACKS
[00:15:14] OF SEPTEMBER 11TH TERROR ATTACKS IN A SERIES OF EVENTS TODAY. IN A SERIES OF EVENTS TODAY. MORE THAN 2700 VICTIMS WERE
[00:15:17] MORE THAN 2700 VICTIMS WERE HONOURED IN NEW YORK. HONOURED IN NEW YORK. THEY WERE KILLED WHEN HIJACKERS
[00:15:20] THEY WERE KILLED WHEN HIJACKERS CRASHED PASSENGER JETS INTO THE
[00:15:22] CENTRE. KRIS REYES REPORTS, JUST STEPS FROM GROUND ZERO WHERE THE TWIN
[00:15:27] KRIS REYES REPORTS, JUST STEPS FROM GROUND ZERO WHERE THE TWIN TOWERS ONCE STOOD.
[00:15:31] FROM GROUND ZERO WHERE THE TWIN TOWERS ONCE STOOD. >> Reporter: SIX BELLS, SIX TOWERS ONCE STOOD. >> Reporter: SIX BELLS, SIX MOMENTS OF SILENCE AND THEN THE
[00:15:35] >> Reporter: SIX BELLS, SIX MOMENTS OF SILENCE AND THEN THE READING OF NAMES FOR EACH PERSON MOMENTS OF SILENCE AND THEN THE READING OF NAMES FOR EACH PERSON KILLED IN THE NINE OVER 11
[00:15:39] READING OF NAMES FOR EACH PERSON KILLED IN THE NINE OVER 11 TERRORIST ATTACKS. KILLED IN THE NINE OVER 11 TERRORIST ATTACKS. >> GEOFF BRITT DONALD FINDLER.
[00:15:43] TERRORIST ATTACKS. >> GEOFF BRITT DONALD FINDLER. >> Reporter: 25 YEARS LATER
[00:15:45] >> GEOFF BRITT DONALD FINDLER. >> Reporter: 25 YEARS LATER THOSE REMAIN THE HALLMARKS OF >> Reporter: 25 YEARS LATER THOSE REMAIN THE HALLMARKS OF THE CEREMONY AT GROUND ZERO.
[00:15:49] THOSE REMAIN THE HALLMARKS OF THE CEREMONY AT GROUND ZERO. THE TWO MEMORIAL POOLS THE CEREMONY AT GROUND ZERO. THE TWO MEMORIAL POOLS SURROUNDED BY FRIENDS AND
[00:15:53] THE TWO MEMORIAL POOLS SURROUNDED BY FRIENDS AND FAMILIES AND DIGNITARIES LINED SURROUNDED BY FRIENDS AND FAMILIES AND DIGNITARIES LINED UP TO JOIN THEM.
[00:15:57] FAMILIES AND DIGNITARIES LINED UP TO JOIN THEM. INCLUDING ALL FORMER LIVING U.S. UP TO JOIN THEM. INCLUDING ALL FORMER LIVING U.S. PRESIDENTS, REPRESENTING THE
[00:16:00] INCLUDING ALL FORMER LIVING U.S. PRESIDENTS, REPRESENTING THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION PRESIDENTS, REPRESENTING THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION VICE PRESIDENT J.D. VANCE.
[00:16:04] TRUMP ADMINISTRATION VICE PRESIDENT J.D. VANCE. IN AN EVENT THAT OFTEN VICE PRESIDENT J.D. VANCE. IN AN EVENT THAT OFTEN TRANSCENDS POLITICS, STILL THERE
[00:16:08] IN AN EVENT THAT OFTEN TRANSCENDS POLITICS, STILL THERE ARE MOMENTS OF ANGER AND TRANSCENDS POLITICS, STILL THERE ARE MOMENTS OF ANGER AND EFFICACY.
[00:16:11] ARE MOMENTS OF ANGER AND EFFICACY. >> ADMINISTRATION AFTER EFFICACY. >> ADMINISTRATION AFTER ADMINISTRATION INCLUDING LEADERS
[00:16:14] >> ADMINISTRATION AFTER ADMINISTRATION INCLUDING LEADERS IN FRONT OF US HERE TODAY CHOSE ADMINISTRATION INCLUDING LEADERS IN FRONT OF US HERE TODAY CHOSE TO PROTECT THE VALUES --
[00:16:18] IN FRONT OF US HERE TODAY CHOSE TO PROTECT THE VALUES -- SALARIES INSTEAD OF SIGNING WITH TO PROTECT THE VALUES -- SALARIES INSTEAD OF SIGNING WITH NINE OVER 11 FAMILIES.
[00:16:22] SALARIES INSTEAD OF SIGNING WITH NINE OVER 11 FAMILIES. >> Reporter: FOR OTHERS THE NINE OVER 11 FAMILIES. >> Reporter: FOR OTHERS THE CEREMONY IS ONLY ABOUT ONE
[00:16:26] >> Reporter: FOR OTHERS THE CEREMONY IS ONLY ABOUT ONE THING, REMEMBERING. CEREMONY IS ONLY ABOUT ONE THING, REMEMBERING. >> I LOST ONE OF MY SENIOR NCOS,
[00:16:30] THING, REMEMBERING. >> I LOST ONE OF MY SENIOR NCOS, WALTER McNEIL, THE FIRST
[00:16:31] >> I LOST ONE OF MY SENIOR NCOS, WALTER McNEIL, THE FIRST SERGEANT.
[00:16:34] SERGEANT. MY OLD UNIT. >> Reporter: AT O'HARA'S PUB MY OLD UNIT. >> Reporter: AT O'HARA'S PUB ACROSS THE 911 PLAZA A MORE
[00:16:38] >> Reporter: AT O'HARA'S PUB ACROSS THE 911 PLAZA A MORE INFORMAL GATHERING THAT HAS ACROSS THE 911 PLAZA A MORE INFORMAL GATHERING THAT HAS BECOME A CHERISHED ANNUAL
[00:16:42] INFORMAL GATHERING THAT HAS BECOME A CHERISHED ANNUAL TRADITION. BECOME A CHERISHED ANNUAL TRADITION. >> THIS PLAQUE WAS GIVEN TO ME
[00:16:45] TRADITION. >> THIS PLAQUE WAS GIVEN TO ME BY A VOLUNTEER FROM 9/11, WE >> THIS PLAQUE WAS GIVEN TO ME BY A VOLUNTEER FROM 9/11, WE NEVER FORGET.
[00:16:49] BY A VOLUNTEER FROM 9/11, WE NEVER FORGET. LOOK AT ALL THESE PEOPLE HERE. NEVER FORGET. LOOK AT ALL THESE PEOPLE HERE. THE 9/11 COMMUNITY WE HAVE A
[00:16:53] LOOK AT ALL THESE PEOPLE HERE. THE 9/11 COMMUNITY WE HAVE A COMMUNITY. THE 9/11 COMMUNITY WE HAVE A COMMUNITY. >> Reporter: AMID STORIES
[00:16:56] COMMUNITY. >> Reporter: AMID STORIES SHARED IN GRIEF AND MEMORIES OF
[00:16:58] >> Reporter: AMID STORIES SHARED IN GRIEF AND MEMORIES OF LOVED ONES, ALSO STORIES OF
[00:17:00] SHARED IN GRIEF AND MEMORIES OF LOVED ONES, ALSO STORIES OF LINGERING PAIN FROM THOSE WHO LOVED ONES, ALSO STORIES OF LINGERING PAIN FROM THOSE WHO WORKED ON THE SITE A QUARTER OF
[00:17:04] LINGERING PAIN FROM THOSE WHO WORKED ON THE SITE A QUARTER OF A CENTURY AGO. WORKED ON THE SITE A QUARTER OF A CENTURY AGO. >> THE CONDITIONS OF THE AIR WAS
[00:17:08] A CENTURY AGO. >> THE CONDITIONS OF THE AIR WAS HIDEOUS. >> THE CONDITIONS OF THE AIR WAS HIDEOUS. I STILL HAVE A GROUND ZERO
[00:17:10] HIDEOUS. I STILL HAVE A GROUND ZERO COUGH. I STILL HAVE A GROUND ZERO COUGH. >> Reporter: THAT'S WHAT YOU
[00:17:13] COUGH. >> Reporter: THAT'S WHAT YOU CALL IT? >> Reporter: THAT'S WHAT YOU CALL IT? >> MINE IS A GROUND ZERO COUGH
[00:17:17] CALL IT? >> MINE IS A GROUND ZERO COUGH I'VE BEEN COUGHING FOR 20 YEARS.
[00:17:19] >> MINE IS A GROUND ZERO COUGH I'VE BEEN COUGHING FOR 20 YEARS. >> Reporter: ONE HINT OF HOW I'VE BEEN COUGHING FOR 20 YEARS. >> Reporter: ONE HINT OF HOW MUCH TIME HAS PASSED IS A
[00:17:23] >> Reporter: ONE HINT OF HOW MUCH TIME HAS PASSED IS A CAMPAIGN FOR THE 9/11 MUSEUM IS MUCH TIME HAS PASSED IS A CAMPAIGN FOR THE 9/11 MUSEUM IS RUNNING TODAY THAT COULD NOT
[00:17:27] CAMPAIGN FOR THE 9/11 MUSEUM IS RUNNING TODAY THAT COULD NOT HAVE EXISTED IN 2001. RUNNING TODAY THAT COULD NOT HAVE EXISTED IN 2001. THEY'RE ASKING PEOPLE FROM
[00:17:31] HAVE EXISTED IN 2001. THEY'RE ASKING PEOPLE FROM WHEREVER THEY ARE TO TAKE A
[00:17:38] [♪♪] >> Natasha: PEOPLE ACROSS THE >> Natasha: PEOPLE ACROSS THE UNITED STATES ARE PAUSING TO
[00:17:41] UNITED STATES ARE PAUSING TO REMEMBER AND TO REFLECT ON REMEMBER AND TO REFLECT ON TODAY BEING SEPTEMBER 11 AND
[00:17:45] TODAY BEING SEPTEMBER 11 AND THE SERIES OF TERRORIST ATTACK
[00:17:47] THE SERIES OF TERRORIST ATTACK THAT CLAIMED THOUSANDS OF THAT CLAIMED THOUSANDS OF LIVES, SHOOK THEIR COUNTRY TO
[00:17:51] LIVES, SHOOK THEIR COUNTRY TO THE CORE, AND CHANGED THE THE CORE, AND CHANGED THE WORLD.
[00:17:54] WORLD. AT GROUND ZERO IN NEW YORK
[00:17:56] AT GROUND ZERO IN NEW YORK THOUSANDS GATHERED TO
[00:17:58] THOUSANDS GATHERED TO COMMEMORATE THE 25 ANNIVERSARY COMMEMORATE THE 25 ANNIVERSARY OF 9-11 WHERE THE TWIN TOWERS
[00:18:02] OF 9-11 WHERE THE TWIN TOWERS ONCE STOOD.
[00:18:03] ONCE STOOD. [♪♪]
[00:18:16] [♪♪] >> Natasha: THE ANNUAL READOUT
[00:18:17] >> Natasha: THE ANNUAL READOUT OF THOSE KILLED INCLUDED THE
[00:18:20] OF THOSE KILLED INCLUDED THE NAMES OF TWO DOZEN CANADIANS.
[00:18:23] NAMES OF TWO DOZEN CANADIANS. VICE PRESIDENT J.D. VANCE WAS VICE PRESIDENT J.D. VANCE WAS JOINED BY THE CURRENT AND
[00:18:27] JOINED BY THE CURRENT AND FORMER GOVERNORS OF NEW YORK AS
[00:18:30] FORMER GOVERNORS OF NEW YORK AS WELL AS FORMER MAYOR RUDY
[00:18:38] WELL AS FORMER MAYOR RUDY GIULIANI AND CURRENT MAYOR GIULIANI AND CURRENT MAYOR ZOHRAN MAMDANI.
[00:18:41] ZOHRAN MAMDANI. CANADA ALSO PLAYED A ROLE IN
[00:18:47] CANADA ALSO PLAYED A ROLE IN THE MEMORIAL TODAY INCLUDING IN
[00:18:49] THE MEMORIAL TODAY INCLUDING IN NEWFOUNDLAND TO REMEMBER THE
[00:18:52] NEWFOUNDLAND TO REMEMBER THE REMARKABLE DISPLAY OF REMARKABLE DISPLAY OF HUMANITARIANITY AND KINDNESS
[00:18:55] HUMANITARIANITY AND KINDNESS THAT EMERGED FROM THE CHAOS OF THAT EMERGED FROM THE CHAOS OF THE DAY.
[00:18:57] THE DAY. YOU'LL REMEMBER THAT 38 PLANES
[00:19:00] YOU'LL REMEMBER THAT 38 PLANES CARRYING ALMOST 7,000
[00:19:02] CARRYING ALMOST 7,000 PASSENGERS LANDED IN GANDER
[00:19:04] PASSENGERS LANDED IN GANDER AFTER THE U.S. SHUT THEIR AFTER THE U.S. SHUT THEIR AIRSPACE DOWN.
[00:19:08] AIRSPACE DOWN. THE TOWN OPENED THEIR HOMES AND THE TOWN OPENED THEIR HOMES AND HEARTS TO ALL OF THOSE PEOPLE
[00:19:11] HEARTS TO ALL OF THOSE PEOPLE SO LET'S TURN TO THE CBC'S
[00:19:13] SO LET'S TURN TO THE CBC'S LAURA HOWELLS WHO'S IN GANDER
[00:19:17] LAURA HOWELLS WHO'S IN GANDER TODAY. TODAY. LAURA, TELL US ABOUT THE LAURA, TELL US ABOUT THE CEREMONY.
[00:19:21] CEREMONY. >> WELL, IT WAS A GORGEOUS
[00:19:24] >> WELL, IT WAS A GORGEOUS CEREMONY, TOUCHING MUSIC, CEREMONY, TOUCHING MUSIC, REMEMBERING THE PEOPLE WHO DIED
[00:19:28] REMEMBERING THE PEOPLE WHO DIED IN 9-11, AND THE TOUCHING
[00:19:31] IN 9-11, AND THE TOUCHING KINDNESS THAT WAS DISPLAYED IN KINDNESS THAT WAS DISPLAYED IN GANDER AND THE SURROUNDING
[00:19:33] GANDER AND THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES 25 YEARS AGO.
[00:19:35] COMMUNITIES 25 YEARS AGO. A LOT OF HIGH PROFILE PEOPLE
[00:19:38] A LOT OF HIGH PROFILE PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT THAT KINDNESS AND
[00:19:40] TALKING ABOUT THAT KINDNESS AND THE NEED FOR MORE OF THAT IN
[00:19:44] THE NEED FOR MORE OF THAT IN THE WORLD THAT WE'RE IN.
[00:19:48] THE WORLD THAT WE'RE IN. >> 25 YEARS LATER I THINK THIS
[00:19:49] >> 25 YEARS LATER I THINK THIS IS THE PART OF THIS STORY WORTH
[00:19:53] IS THE PART OF THIS STORY WORTH HOLDING ONTO BECAUSE SEPTEMBER
[00:19:55] HOLDING ONTO BECAUSE SEPTEMBER 11 BEGAN BY SHOWING US HUMANITY
[00:20:02] 11 BEGAN BY SHOWING US HUMANITY AT ITS WORST BUT IN THE HOURS AT ITS WORST BUT IN THE HOURS AND DAYS THAT FOLLOWED PLACES
[00:20:06] AND DAYS THAT FOLLOWED PLACES LIKE GANDER REMINDED US OF
[00:20:10] LIKE GANDER REMINDED US OF HUMANITY AT ITS BEST. HUMANITY AT ITS BEST. >> Reporter: SO YEAH, THAT
[00:20:14] >> Reporter: SO YEAH, THAT MESSAGE THERE, THE GREATNESS OF MESSAGE THERE, THE GREATNESS OF HUMANITY THAT WE SAW 25 YEARS
[00:20:18] HUMANITY THAT WE SAW 25 YEARS AGO HERE AND HOW THAT'S REALLY
[00:20:20] AGO HERE AND HOW THAT'S REALLY BEING FELT TODAY WITH SO MANY
[00:20:23] BEING FELT TODAY WITH SO MANY PEOPLE ON THOSE PLANES BACK 25 PEOPLE ON THOSE PLANES BACK 25 YEARS LATER, SOME FOR THE FIRST
[00:20:26] YEARS LATER, SOME FOR THE FIRST TIME BECAUSE IT TOUCHED THEM SO TIME BECAUSE IT TOUCHED THEM SO MUCH AND MADE SUCH A DIFFERENCE
[00:20:29] MUCH AND MADE SUCH A DIFFERENCE FOR SO MANY PEOPLE IN A REALLY FOR SO MANY PEOPLE IN A REALLY SCARY TIME.
[00:20:32] SCARY TIME. >> Natasha: LAURA, IT'S NOT >> Natasha: LAURA, IT'S NOT UNUSUAL FOR THE AMERICAN
[00:20:36] UNUSUAL FOR THE AMERICAN AMBASSADOR TO CANADA TO BE AT
[00:20:37] AMBASSADOR TO CANADA TO BE AT AN EVENT LIKE THIS CERTAINLY
[00:20:44] AN EVENT LIKE THIS CERTAINLY BUT THIS IS A VERY UNUSUAL BUT THIS IS A VERY UNUSUAL TIME. TIME. SO PETE HOEKSTRA WAS THERE AT
[00:20:47] SO PETE HOEKSTRA WAS THERE AT THE CEREMONY AND THIS IS AN THE CEREMONY AND THIS IS AN ADMINISTRATION THAT HAS BEEN
[00:20:52] ADMINISTRATION THAT HAS BEEN HEAVILY CRITICIZED BECAUSE OF HEAVILY CRITICIZED BECAUSE OF WHAT'S GOING ON AMID THE TRADE
[00:20:55] WHAT'S GOING ON AMID THE TRADE WAR SO LET'S TALK ABOUT THE
[00:21:00] WAR SO LET'S TALK ABOUT THE RECEPTION THAT HOEKSTRA RECEPTION THAT HOEKSTRA RECEIVED. RECEIVED. >> Reporter: YEAH, THIS IS
[00:21:04] >> Reporter: YEAH, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I'VE BEEN SOMETHING THAT I'VE BEEN WATCHING.
[00:21:07] WATCHING. THE TOWN OF GANDER PUT OUT A
[00:21:12] THE TOWN OF GANDER PUT OUT A STATEMENT SAYING THEY STAND BY
[00:21:14] STATEMENT SAYING THEY STAND BY THEIR DECISION TO INCLUDE HIM.
[00:21:18] THEIR DECISION TO INCLUDE HIM. PEOPLE STOOD FOR THE STAR
[00:21:22] PEOPLE STOOD FOR THE STAR SPANGLED BANNER, AND THE
[00:21:27] SPANGLED BANNER, AND THE INTRODUCTION OF HOEKSTRA. INTRODUCTION OF HOEKSTRA. THERE WAS A MOMENT THAT STOOD THERE WAS A MOMENT THAT STOOD OUT TO ME.
[00:21:31] OUT TO ME. I'LL PLAY THE CLIP. I'LL PLAY THE CLIP. TAKE A LISTEN.
[00:21:33] TAKE A LISTEN. >> WHAT MESSAGE DO WE TAKE?
[00:21:36] WHAT LEGACY DO WE HAVE? WHAT LEGACY DOES GANDER COME TO
[00:21:42] WHAT LEGACY DOES GANDER COME TO SYMBOLIZE TODAY?
[00:21:43] SYMBOLIZE TODAY? THAT WHEN HORRIFIC THINGS
[00:21:47] THAT WHEN HORRIFIC THINGS HAPPEN, WHEN MAN TREATS MAN SO
[00:21:54] HAPPEN, WHEN MAN TREATS MAN SO BADLY GOODWILL WIN.
[00:22:00] BADLY GOODWILL WIN. >> Reporter: YEAH, SO >> Reporter: YEAH, SO INTERESTING COMMENTS,
[00:22:03] INTERESTING COMMENTS, ESPECIALLY IN THE CONTEXT OF ESPECIALLY IN THE CONTEXT OF THE TRADE WAR, FOCUSING ON THAT
[00:22:07] THE TRADE WAR, FOCUSING ON THAT KINDNESS. KINDNESS. I'VE GOT TO SAY THAT THE
[00:22:11] I'VE GOT TO SAY THAT THE STANDOUT OF THE NIGHT, THE
[00:22:15] STANDOUT OF THE NIGHT, THE SPEECH FROM JEAN CHRETIEN. SPEECH FROM JEAN CHRETIEN. HE DIDN'T SHY AWAY FROM THE
[00:22:19] HE DIDN'T SHY AWAY FROM THE SUBTEXT THAT WAS HAPPENING IN SUBTEXT THAT WAS HAPPENING IN THIS. THIS. HE SAID CANADA IS KIND, CANADA
[00:22:22] HE SAID CANADA IS KIND, CANADA IS NICE, BUT DO NOT EXPECT OUR IS NICE, BUT DO NOT EXPECT OUR KINDNESS FOR WEAKNESS, OUR
[00:22:26] KINDNESS FOR WEAKNESS, OUR GENEROSITY FOR SOFTNESS, AND GENEROSITY FOR SOFTNESS, AND THAT GOT A HUGE ROUSE OF
[00:22:30] THAT GOT A HUGE ROUSE OF APPLAUSE, A HUGE STANDING APPLAUSE, A HUGE STANDING OVATION, AND YOU KNOW, OVATION, AND YOU KNOW, ADDRESSING -- ADDRESSING THE
[00:22:33] ADDRESSING -- ADDRESSING THE ELEPHANT IN
[00:22:39] After 27 flights were grounded at the St. John's International Airport following the September 11th attacks,
[00:22:43] thousands of stranded passengers poured into the Mile
[00:22:46] 1 Centre. Glenn Stanford was the general manager and at the
[00:22:49] time he was getting ready for an NHL training camp. We had
[00:22:51] convinced the leaves to come here and hold their training
[00:22:54] camp here and also play an exhibition game against the
[00:22:57] Montreal Canadiens. So we thought we were going to be
[00:22:59] welcoming the Toronto Maple Leafs in the day or two. Little
[00:23:02] did we know that we're going to be welcoming everybody else in
[00:23:05] the world on that particular day. You guys are all getting
[00:23:08] place to sleep tonight, that's good news. The stadium
[00:23:11] served as a waypoint for stranded passengers who would
[00:23:14] then be set up with a safe place to sleep. There were
[00:23:17] processed from here to go to local hotels, high schools,
[00:23:21] people's homes, the convention centre across
[00:23:23] the street. We ended up putting 1000 people over there on beds.
[00:23:27] So there were processed to go out and then every day they
[00:23:30] would have to come back because nobody knew when they were
[00:23:33] going to give the order to, to fly back to wherever they
[00:23:37] were going from. Stanford said he was
[00:23:39] amazed by the generosity of the people of St. John's. To have
[00:23:42] all these people put out, you know,
[00:23:44] that the crowds of people that came
[00:23:47] at the front steps of mile one to offer their houses,
[00:23:50] to offer support, to offer food, to offer anyway they can.
[00:23:53] Stanford says the support for stranded passengers after 911
[00:23:57] cemented Newfoundlanders and Laboratorians reputation for
[00:24:00] hospitality. Well, I think it's just it just
[00:24:02] proved the point, didn't it? I mean,
[00:24:04] that's what that's what we're known for. Anybody who comes
[00:24:08] here, you know, for hockey games or for
[00:24:10] concerts over the years have always talked about
[00:24:13] Newfoundland and Labrador Arians and their hospitality
[00:24:16] and how welcoming they were.
[00:24:18] I think all that did was prove that that point is is correct.
[00:24:22] John Harris, CBC News, St. John's.
[00:24:28] About 1000 people were stranded here in Stephenville on
[00:24:31] September 11th, 2001 when their planes were
[00:24:34] diverted here. And the community is marking the 25th
[00:24:37] anniversary in a very unique, special way. For this community
[00:24:41] in particular has always had such a strong connection with
[00:24:45] the United States.
[00:25:26] Stephenville on that very emotional and frightening day.
[00:25:29] Back then, I was working at Jack and Jill
[00:25:32] Nursery School, so we had many preschoolers
[00:25:35] with us. And we were outside and we started to see the
[00:25:38] planes landing at our airport and we had no idea. And then
[00:25:42] the phone started to ring.
[00:26:15] 27 planes landing in Stephenville
[00:26:18] that they lost their ceiling. It got too foggy for the planes
[00:26:22] to land, so they had to be diverted to
[00:26:24] other places. So we ended up with eight commercial flights
[00:26:28] and five private smaller planes. Stephenville is no stranger to
[00:26:32] flights, an emergency backup airport in
[00:26:35] those days for diverted flights from Gander or St. John's,
[00:26:38] something Mayor Bob Burns knows all too well. The previous year
[00:26:43] we had had over 30 American aircraft land here,
[00:26:46] military aircraft for Harmon Field Day.
[00:26:48] So the tradition of being very close to the Americans and the
[00:26:52] American military, you know, had kept in Stephenville,
[00:26:55] kept alive, you know, ever since, well,
[00:26:57] back in 1986 when we hosted a reunion of former military
[00:27:00] people who were stationed here at the Ernest Harmon Air Force
[00:27:03] Base. So there was a lot of motion in the community at that
[00:27:07] time. The College of the North Atlantic staff housed and fed
[00:27:11] most of the stranded passengers, and many stayed at the hotels
[00:27:14] in Stephenville, while some were bussed to
[00:27:17] hotels in nearby Corner Brook. The Knights of Columbus will
[00:27:20] sponsor a special service at Saint Stephens Parish to
[00:27:23] commemorate the anniversary. Uniformed first responders and
[00:27:27] veterans are welcome to join and pray for those lost. Each
[00:27:30] year we we kind of look back and we remember 9/11 with a
[00:27:33] different perspective, I guess, than your average
[00:27:36] Newfoundlander would. So, you know,
[00:27:38] the town is still, you know, very much a part of what
[00:28:05] take in. Colin Connors, CBC News, Stephenville.
[00:28:13] This drone display lit up New York's Harbor last night. A
[00:28:16] total of 2977 lights, one for each person killed in
[00:28:19] the attacks. This installation was developed with the input of
[00:28:24] the 9/11 families and 1st responders. The lights then
[00:28:28] transformed into a full scale outline of the Twin Towers.
[00:28:33] Stay with us. Much more news coming up very soon.
[00:30:41] A Fredericton lawyer who was found guilty of 29 professional
[00:30:44] misconduct related charges has been disbarred,
[00:30:47] according to the Law Society of New Brunswick. According to a
[00:30:51] notice posted to the society's website, as of August 31st,
[00:30:55] Stephen Hill is no longer able to practice law in the province.
[00:30:59] In June, he was found guilty by a panel
[00:31:02] of the discipline committee of misappropriating more than $1
[00:31:06] million in client funds, failure to complete required
[00:31:10] work and failure to follow client instructions. He's been
[00:31:14] disbarred based on the allegations. Well,
[00:31:16] they're no longer allegations, but basically what was cited in
[00:31:20] the Form 22, which is the notice of
[00:31:23] complaint. Dabney says on top of being disbarred,
[00:31:26] Hill will also have to reimburse the Law Society a
[00:31:29] record-breaking $1.4 million. This is to cover the
[00:31:33] compensation fund, investigation costs,
[00:31:35] hearing costs, legal fees and janitorial costs.
[00:31:38] The last record-breaking payout to the loss of
[00:31:41] that it was $700, 000 in 2023 by Yassin Shukri,
[00:31:45] who gambled away his law firm clients money. This is is
[00:31:50] almost double of of what Mr. Hill has to repay and so it's
[00:31:54] very significant. Dagley says the Law Society plans to
[00:31:59] release the details of the final decision sometime next
[00:32:03] month. There's been a lengthy process and there were many
[00:32:08] delays, delays and it will be addressed
[00:32:11] in the decision as to
[00:32:13] the the challenges that the Law Society has gone through with
[00:32:18] the investigation and leading up to the hearing.
[00:32:24] Canadian Maple syrup is finding its way onto more store shelves
[00:32:27] and breakfast tables around the world as the trade war with the
[00:32:31] US continues. International buyers are hungry not just for
[00:32:35] syrup, but Maple syrup that comes from
[00:32:37] Canada. Hutchinson Acres and Nova Scotia says it's busier
[00:32:40] than usual preparing orders. This shipment is destined for
[00:32:44] the Netherlands. Normally we wouldn't be shipping too many
[00:32:47] containers out of this time of year. We've got three
[00:32:50] containers we're trying to get out in the next month and 1/2
[00:32:54] so and they're all going overseas.
[00:32:56] Chris Hutchinson says they see an uptick in sales whenever
[00:32:59] Canada U.S. trade talks are in the news. He also says
[00:33:02] international buyers use Maple syrup for more than just
[00:33:05] pancakes. It's used as a sweetener and an alternative to
[00:33:09] refined sugar. When you have all this,
[00:33:11] you have growth. You see what we're doing here. It's just
[00:33:14] insane what we're doing here every week compared to what we
[00:33:18] would normally be doing.
[00:33:20] Like I'm telling you, 345 times, sometimes a week,
[00:33:23] what we would normally be doing. Maple Store,
[00:33:25] a European distributor, has noticed more consumers
[00:33:29] asking where their products are coming from, cofounder Philippe Coley told CBC in an e-mail. Origin has
[00:33:35] become something our customers actively look for. People are
[00:33:38] not just buying Maple syrup anymore. They are buying
[00:33:41] Canadian Maple syrup. And they tell us that is why Canadian
[00:33:45] Maple syrup is perceived to be the, you know,
[00:33:48] the best quality. Rob Ward is a cofounder
[00:33:50] of Pure Maple, a UK distributor of Maple syrup.
[00:33:53] He says there's been a steady increase in purchases in recent
[00:33:57] years, but no significant surge in the
[00:34:00] wake of trade disputes. What he does see is a lot of love for
[00:34:04] Canada. I think if I summed it up,
[00:34:06] I think there's a fondness towards Canada and I think
[00:34:10] there's a a real appetite
[00:34:12] towards Canadian Maple syrup. Back at Hutchinson Acres,
[00:34:15] Chris says time will tell how long this boost in sales will
[00:34:19] last, but he thinks it's another
[00:34:21] opportunity to move away from over reliance on trade with the
[00:34:25] US. I think the sooner that people realize that if you're
[00:34:28] committed to the United States and that's your only customer
[00:34:32] or a major customer,
[00:34:34] you're really gonna need to look at different places to do
[00:34:38] your business. As many Canadians reach for homegrown
[00:34:41] products, it's clear the rest of the
[00:34:43] world wants a taste as well. Colin North, CBC News, Halifax.
[00:41:38] Well, they say one good turn deserves
[00:41:41] another, and that's the idea behind a
[00:41:43] movement born out of the tragedy of 911. The kindness of
[00:41:48] strangers here in central Newfoundland 25 years ago has
[00:41:52] inspired many others to pay it forward.
[00:41:56] Tomorrow is 9/11,
[00:41:58] the 25th anniversary. So as we have said for 24 years,
[00:42:01] we ask you to go and do three good deeds for strangers
[00:42:05] honoring one of the victims. You can go to our website,
[00:42:09] payitforward91.org. Click a link that goes to the Voices
[00:42:13] 911 Voices Memorial Centre and you can find a name and a
[00:42:17] background about the individual so that as you go buy a coffee
[00:42:22] or write a letter to a first responder,
[00:42:24] you can tell that you were doing this. And then
[00:42:28] name of one of those people who were killed. Sharon Carver, 38,
[00:42:32] from Waldorf, MD, was killed in the Pentagon.
[00:42:37] We remember, Sharon, by purchasing tickets for the
[00:42:40] Central Park Carousel in New York City so that the next 50
[00:42:43] kids could ride for free. And you were here 25 years ago. Yes,
[00:42:46] I was. And you're here at this Day Forward 911 event. What do
[00:42:50] you think about this, this event?
[00:42:52] I love the idea. We should just help each other,
[00:42:55] physically helping each other. Like we have elderly neighbors
[00:42:58] bring in their garbage cans or something like that,
[00:43:01] shovel their snow or like you said,
[00:43:03] pay the next person's coffee. But it just makes and it makes
[00:43:07] you feel better. Simple message, but it's an important one.
[00:43:10] Firefighter John Heffernan of the FDNY, age 37,
[00:43:14] from Middle Village, NY. He was killed at the World
[00:43:17] Trade Centre.
[00:43:18] John was honoured with hand fans on a sweltering New York
[00:43:22] City bus
[00:43:24] during a brutal late summer heat wave. An individual on a
[00:43:27] bus in New York City, armed with dozens of fans,
[00:43:30] hand fans and cold bottles of water distributed them to
[00:43:34] sweaty, exhausted commuters. The
[00:43:36] gesture was uploaded to a social media to show that
[00:43:40] kindness does not have to be expensive to completely shift a
[00:43:43] stranger's day. Julie Guys, 44, from Lee's Summit, Missouri.
[00:43:48] She was killed in the South Tower.
[00:43:51] Julie was remembered during what we call the Ganza City Gas
[00:43:56] Pump Surprise.
[00:43:57] A board member participated in the annual campaign,
[00:44:01] pulled up to a gas station in Kansas City,
[00:44:05] paid for her own fuel and then walked over to hand a prepaid
[00:44:10] gift card to a complete stranger at the adjacent pump.
[00:44:15] They explained it was to honor the Newfoundlanders,
[00:44:19] who asked them for nothing in return when refuelling the
[00:44:23] spirits of 7000 stranded airline passengers.
[00:44:28] We have just delivered 25
[00:44:32] names, people we said we would never
[00:44:35] forget.
[00:44:37] We can't do all 2977 here today. I wish we could.
[00:44:47] There has never been another day like it.
[00:44:53] Due to a recent development in the United States,
[00:44:55] US airspace has been closed.
[00:44:57] Hundreds of planes with thousands of people told they
[00:45:02] had to land now.
[00:45:04] Craft land as soon as possible at the nearest airport. An
[00:45:08] attack underway. Many planes diverted here. Newfoundland
[00:45:11] Negative. You must now land at Gander.
[00:45:15] From here in the Gander Air Traffic Control tower. It was a
[00:45:19] scramble on 9/11 as planes began to land. They needed
[00:45:22] places to put them using tarmac space,
[00:45:25] including an old disused runway. Anywhere they could find space
[00:45:29] to put a plane, they did. It was intense,
[00:45:31] but and then it was over. It was air traffic controller Don
[00:45:35] O'Brien's job to order planes down.
[00:45:39] All around her fault and it's wrong. We're here.
[00:45:42] 38 aircraft coming to a place few passengers at. Ever heard
[00:45:46] of. Big jets parked wing to wing an unprecedented race in
[00:45:51] case more hijackers were still in the air.
[00:45:56] The pilots who wanted to get out of sky because it nobody
[00:45:59] knew what was more activity going to go on,
[00:46:01] terrorist activity.
[00:46:03] We had to literally drained the sky later. I'm Spacer. Yeah. 25
[00:46:07] years on. The Gander airport is a lot quieter now. This would
[00:46:10] have been an example of the kind of screen you were looking
[00:46:14] at that day. Yes, they're coming off westbound.
[00:46:17] Just the oceanic boundary line here,
[00:46:20] artifacts displayed from that awful day,
[00:46:23] but the memories that endure are far more positive. It was a
[00:46:28] good feeling of, after working at all,
[00:46:31] of satisfaction that you got them down safely.
[00:46:36] That day became emblematic of the closeness that can exist
[00:46:40] between Canadians and Americans,
[00:46:43] and it is a closeness that's being tested now,
[00:46:47] big time. We've been pushed to the wall. Welcome to
[00:46:51] unexpected
[00:46:53] visit to Canada. We are in Gander. It was the first time I
[00:46:57] had to rely on the kindness of a stranger to give me a pillow
[00:47:01] to lie my head at night. And American Kevin Turf was flying
[00:47:05] from Paris to New York that day. He was among close to 7000
[00:47:10] unexpected guests in Gander. There's the plane. You can't
[00:47:14] miss that
[00:47:16] with thousands more landing across Atlantic Canada.
[00:47:22] Mac and Nellie. Hello Canadian bonus parents, how are you?
[00:47:26] Hi son, how you doing in in New York?
[00:47:29] Kevin isn't really Mac and Nellie Moss's son. But a
[00:47:32] quarter century on it sure feels that way. A weary
[00:47:36] traveler welcomed with overwhelming Newfoundland
[00:47:40] kindness. Mac and Nellie jumped into action and gave us food,
[00:47:44] clothing, shelter, information and love and it
[00:47:47] really changed my life and and over the years we've really
[00:47:52] kept in touch. We were very fortunate because
[00:47:56] you know the the friendship memory that we've developed and
[00:47:59] I got a song out of it, so that's a real bonus here.
[00:48:05] The town's population effectively doubled housed its
[00:48:09] school gyms, college classrooms. People's
[00:48:12] homes are herculean effort to find food, bedding,
[00:48:15] towels and toiletries. Everything those now dubbed the
[00:48:19] Plain People might need.
[00:48:23] But it was the intangible comfort offered that stuck. 911
[00:48:28] changed a lot of people's lives. You know, some people lost
[00:48:34] wives and husbands and
[00:48:36] parents,
[00:48:38] but it changed other people. And, and in some ways,
[00:48:41] it could. It had the power to change for for good. Yeah. And
[00:48:44] I think that's your story. That's exactly what kindness
[00:48:47] was a big thing, for sure. A lot of them wanted
[00:48:50] to pay us for their stay. And I said no.
[00:48:53] Anytime that you have an opportunity,
[00:48:57] pay it forward. You know, do good to people. Remember
[00:49:01] your time in Gander.
[00:49:03] We owe our Canadian neighbors a debt of gratitude. An American
[00:49:09] cabinet secretary praising Canada? Imagine that today.
[00:49:14] We've got tariffs, we've got trade threats. We've got, I mean, we've got threats to take over
[00:49:18] the whole country.
[00:49:20] It makes me angry to
[00:49:23] to see our government
[00:49:26] talking about our neighbor
[00:49:28] like they are and acting the way they are because it's not
[00:49:33] how you treat neighbors. I agree 100%
[00:49:37] to thank Newfoundland for its kindness. Parts of the World
[00:49:41] Trade Centres have been donated to Gander and other towns that
[00:49:45] pitched in a way to remember what happened.
[00:49:51] What is the global success of the musical Come From Away?
[00:49:56] You got it.
[00:49:59] It reinvigorated the story of Newfoundlanders creating
[00:50:02] comfort in the face of tragedy.
[00:50:07] How are you, David Cotton, Welcome to my home. Thank you
[00:50:10] very much. There's a character in the musical named for Beulah
[00:50:14] Cooper. She never gets bored of telling her own story,
[00:50:17] even 25 years later. It all began for you with a phone call.
[00:50:22] Trey sandwiches to the Legion and they said there's plenty
[00:50:25] load of people coming in. They're saying tonight I said I
[00:50:28] guess I better wait to stay around and see if I can help,
[00:50:31] and I did.
[00:50:36] The sentiment behind those sandwiches is the reason Beulah
[00:50:39] receives all these cards, letters and well wishes. If you
[00:50:43] like. You are a constant reminder of the depth of
[00:50:46] humanity, grace, and kindness
[00:50:48] that exist in the world. Wow. And there's an awful lot of
[00:50:54] them. This is part of what I got. I really and truly think
[00:50:59] since 9:11,
[00:51:01] it's open a lot of hearts and a lot of eyes because you hear
[00:51:05] tell of it more now than you ever did before. People helping
[00:51:09] people.
[00:51:12] There's a constant flow of new visitors to the Legion,
[00:51:15] many wanting to meet the famous Beulah.
[00:51:19] Being a celebrity, I know you. And just as income
[00:51:23] from away, visitors are made honorary
[00:51:25] Newfoundlanders through the old tradition of being screeched in.
[00:51:29] And yes, it means kissing a codfish,
[00:51:33] blown away by the kindness of the people. And this experience
[00:51:37] with kissing the fish and drinking the screech,
[00:51:39] awesome. That's really, I think, beautiful story. And so I'm
[00:51:43] very happy to come here, experience, you know,
[00:51:46] the homeliness that everyone's told us about
[00:51:51] a place known through history for taking in strangers a safe
[00:51:56] harbor in a storm none greater or larger than September 11th.
[00:54:12] The facility is called Canada Quinque. It means the village
[00:54:15] that has been moved. Very emotional,
[00:54:17] Very emotional. I'm just taking it all in. It's part cultural
[00:54:22] centre, community space and museum.
[00:54:24] This is the centerpiece, a long house made of wooden
[00:54:28] posts, beams and cladded bark. And in
[00:54:30] villages, this is where community members
[00:54:33] would live and it could house 40 to 50 people or 8 to 10
[00:54:37] families. The building to me is a place for our people
[00:54:41] first and foremost, to understand our history,
[00:54:44] where we've been. The facility cost $56 million. It was funded
[00:54:48] through a combination of provincial and federal
[00:54:51] investments, but a significant part came
[00:54:53] from donors and small contributions from community
[00:54:56] members. For me, those $20 donations just kept
[00:54:59] lifting me up, lifting me up because now it
[00:55:02] was the kids. The kids were part of this,
[00:55:04] and they wanted this, too. The ground floor
[00:55:07] represents Turtle Island and a spiraling walkway takes
[00:55:11] visitors to the second
[00:55:12] level featuring a night sky. We would say that the sky woman
[00:55:16] fell from sky world to come to this world and a spiraling
[00:55:19] walkway representing the Milky Way as the path between these
[00:55:23] two realms. The former Grand Chief is encouraging everyone
[00:55:26] to visit. She says it's a great learning experience and she
[00:55:30] even learned something new herself. My oldest living
[00:55:33] cousin who is 90, we actually walked through this
[00:55:36] museum together and she actually highlighted to me that
[00:55:40] my great, great grandmother's image is in the beadwork
[00:55:43] display. And had she not been here,
[00:55:45] I wouldn't have known that and I wouldn't have known another
[00:55:49] piece of my history. They have the dates on them,
[00:55:51] 1905. So this is like 120 year old beadwork that was
[00:55:54] maintained and saved in our community. Community members
[00:55:58] say Cannot Acquire gives elders the chance to pass along the
[00:56:01] community's history and language to the next generation,
[00:56:04] and they hope it can serve as a shining example for other First
[00:56:08] Nations communities that their traditions can live on.
[00:56:13] Last month, this cocktail bar at Bloor and
[00:56:15] Ossington closed its doors. Electric Bill was open for more
[00:56:19] than two years, and it wasn't that it wasn't
[00:56:22] popular. So what brought it down?
[00:56:24] We asked the owner to break down the cost that ultimately
[00:56:28] killed his business. How can you get by while still
[00:56:31] providing something that is affordable to people in your
[00:56:35] area? Let's start with food. Federal
[00:56:37] GST tax holiday in 2024 brought prices down and customers in.
[00:56:41] But when that ended,
[00:56:43] Ryan says the cost of food surged dramatically through the
[00:56:46] season. It, it fluctuates as well. But I'd,
[00:56:48] I'd, I'd be saying about 20% sort of
[00:56:50] thing, 1020%, yeah. He says the rising cost
[00:56:53] of alcohol and insufficient government discounts have hurt
[00:56:56] as well. Right now, it's about 10%, which, you know,
[00:56:59] doesn't really do too much. If we are like,
[00:57:01] a significant discount, significant wholesale price
[00:57:04] from the LCBO, then that would mean that we'd
[00:57:07] be able to charge less. Though the LCBO says it's launching a
[00:57:10] new program to make things cheaper for the hospitality
[00:57:13] sector, that's coming way too late for electric bill. Then there's
[00:57:17] minimum wage, which has been going up
[00:57:19] slightly every year since 2020. People do deserve to make a
[00:57:23] living wage, so I'm happy to pay the extra
[00:57:26] labour. It just means that on our end,
[00:57:28] we have to be a lot more diligent with how we staff. And
[00:57:31] there's rents. There is currently no commercial rent
[00:57:35] control in Toronto, and between 2022 and 2025,
[00:57:37] the average commercial rent in Toronto went up by 31%. Ryan
[00:57:41] says the cost of hydro and gas is also on the rise,
[00:57:44] as are the fees to fix and replace broken and aging
[00:57:47] equipment. Now you deal with it and you make it happen because
[00:57:50] you have to and you want to say open. But then as things get
[00:57:53] tighter, then like every time you have to do that, it hits you a little bit more,
[00:57:57] takes a little bit more to recover from. Things got even
[00:58:00] more challenging for Electric Bill when they opted not to
[00:58:02] open their patio this year because of city fees. Losing
[00:58:05] our patio, which was like a massive revenue hit obviously over summer,
[00:58:08] even if we had the patio, like a patio,
[00:58:10] fees were like $7000 a year, which is like crazy high. Like,
[00:58:13] you know, we're Bloomington
[00:58:15] like a small bowl. And, yeah, we decided it's probably not
[00:58:18] gonna be worthwhile. So it's difficult to know if the
[00:58:21] situation for restaurants. It's worse now in Toronto than usual.
[00:58:24] The city doesn't track the amount of restaurant closures,
[00:58:27] and neither does Stats can. But advocacy organization
[00:58:30] Restaurants Canada says many businesses are fighting to keep
[00:58:33] the lights on. They are pulling back on things like shifts.
[00:58:36] They're pulling back on things like investments. They're
[00:58:39] pulling back on things like replacing equipment. So all of
[00:58:42] these things, again, have spin off. Your margins are
[00:58:45] tight already, so as the cost of things go up, there's more pressure on your
[00:58:49] pricing. You have to raise your prices. If you raise your
[00:58:52] prices too high, you'll price yourself out of
[00:58:54] the market. The City of Toronto has pushed the profits for
[00:58:57] commercial rent control with no success. You know,
[00:59:00] we're doing what we can. We reduce these,
[00:59:02] the property tax on small businesses. Definitely we're in
[00:59:05] favor of updating the property tax assessments. So Forward has
[00:59:09] frozen property tax assessments for five years. And the effect
[00:59:12] of that is it shifts more tax onto the little businesses,
[00:59:15] which is outrageous, ridiculous. When we asked the province about this,
[00:59:19] they didn't say anything about the property tax freeze. They
[00:59:22] did tell us that they're cutting red tape and the
[00:59:25] business, corporate income tax giving,
[00:59:27] quote, small businesses the tools they
[00:59:29] need to succeed. As for Ryan, the available support just
[00:59:32] wasn't enough. But he's not ruling out another venture
[00:59:35] someday in Toronto. Economy was a bit better. If like,
[00:59:38] there was a bit more support for places on the ground and it
[00:59:41] was a bit more of like a stable place than I'd definitely
[00:59:44] consider it. Yeah, News Toronto.
[01:00:26] [theme music playing]
[01:00:34] [Asha Tomlinson] It's a scam that targets vulnerable teens.
[01:00:37] So she says, "Wow, you are looking good."
[01:00:41] An innocent exchange that leads to sexual extortio.
[01:00:45] There is no other scam that involves targeting children,
[01:00:49] coercing them into a sexually compromising situation.
[01:00:52] [Asha] We find criminals cashing in on fear
[01:00:55] all the way from Nigeria...
[01:00:57] Why do you scam people?
[01:01:01] [Asha] ...and uncover the tragic truth of those who lose it all.
[01:01:05] The amount of children that have died for this, it makes no sense.
[01:01:09] [Asha] This is your Marketplace.
[01:01:15] High up, something like that, yeah.
[01:01:18] We're building Instagram profiles.
[01:01:20] Yeah, take a couple, that's great. Going from this...
[01:01:24] Now we just have to edit it. ...to this.
[01:01:27] Looking like the perfect targets, young bo,
[01:01:31] for an alarming blackmail scheme.
[01:01:33] We set up fake names, add photos and post comments.
[01:01:37] Just to make the accounts look lived in.
[01:01:40] [Asha] Follow popular accounts,
[01:01:42] dating apps, chat networks.
[01:01:44] It says follow for more. [Asha] Because the scammers look through
[01:01:48] follower lists to find their victims.
[01:01:50] So I have someone following me already.
[01:01:52] It's been, like, seconds.
[01:01:54] [Asha] That's how sextortion begins.
[01:01:57] These criminals pose as young girls
[01:01:59] and lure boys into sending a nude photo.
[01:02:02] Then they blackmail them. -[phone chimes] -Oh, Bella's talking to me.
[01:02:06] She says "Hi." [Asha] Bella's now messaging
[01:02:08] two of our accounts at the same time. Look at that.
[01:02:15] [Asha] What we're doing is just a test.
[01:02:16] We know there are families across Canada
[01:02:19] living with the brutal reality of sextortion.
[01:02:25] We're in Bay Fortune, Prince Edward Island.
[01:02:46] Their 17-year-old son, Harry, a sextortion victim.
[01:02:50] So this scenario in the house
[01:02:52] that the boys had confiscated, it became the man cave.
[01:02:56] [Asha] Harry's presence is felt everywhere.
[01:02:59] [Carl] This is actually Harry's room.
[01:03:01] So this is where Harry spent his time.
[01:03:04] [Asha] His room filled with reminders of dreams unrealize.
[01:03:08] Those are his military boots that he was using
[01:03:11] when he was in the reserves.
[01:03:12] And I wear them when I'm doing stuff during the day
[01:03:16] just to feel closer to him, right? -[Asha] Yeah. Absolutely. -Yeah.
[01:03:20] I, Harry Burke... [Asha] He loved being a cadet.
[01:03:24] He said, I want to make Canada better.
[01:03:26] And this was the way he figured that he could do that.
[01:03:29] He was standing right here when he told us that.
[01:03:31] And I really feel he would have. But that was taken away.
[01:03:40] Harry and I spent that day together.
[01:03:42] We had done father-son things.
[01:03:44] [Asha] He tells his dad about a girl he's messaging on Instagram.
[01:03:47] Harry had come to me sometime in the afternoon to say
[01:03:51] he was talking to this girl around his age from Nova Scotia.
[01:03:56] And he showed me her picture. And it all seemed very real.
[01:04:01] [Asha] But Harry's situation unravels quickly.
[01:04:04] He confides in his dad.
[01:04:06] [Carl] That evening, Harry came to me.
[01:04:09] And he said, "Dad, I screwed up."
[01:04:11] And I said, "What do you mean?"
[01:04:13] And he said, "Well, I shared pictures."
[01:04:16] And he said, "They're looking for money."
[01:04:18] And I said, "We can't send the money, Harry." I knew what extortion meant.
[01:04:23] I said, "They'll just keep asking for more."
[01:04:26] [Asha] They call a family meeting. Harry was sitting right there.
[01:04:29] -And I was there. -Barbie was here.
[01:04:30] Harry explained to Mom what had happened.
[01:04:33] And during that conversation...
[01:04:37] we were all upset.
[01:04:39] And Barbie actually got a message.
[01:04:44] -On Instagram from the same... -Same person.
[01:04:47] ...same person.
[01:04:49] This individual that said... "I'm going to destroy you."
[01:04:53] And I wish Harry had never seen the message.
[01:04:58] [Asha] They make a plan to call police in the morning.
[01:05:01] Harry's parents don't know he's still being hounded
[01:05:04] well into the night.
[01:05:06] The scammer sends his photo to other cadets
[01:05:08] and threatens to send it to his commanding officer.
[01:05:11] In Harry's mind, he figured everything
[01:05:13] that he had worked so hard for was gone.
[01:05:16] He figured this would interfere
[01:05:18] with his chances within the PEI regiment
[01:05:22] to go to the Royal Military College and become an officer.
[01:05:27] I just feel so...
[01:05:30] He was sitting in the garage.
[01:05:32] And I said, "What are you doing?"
[01:05:34] And he said, "Oh, I'm just writing some thoughts."
[01:05:37] And I didn't ask him what he was writing. Tried to be...
[01:05:41] respectful, but it wasn't uncommon for Harry to journal.
[01:05:44] He did do that. So we talked for a minute.
[01:05:48] And I went to the door.
[01:05:51] And I turned around and I said, "I love you, Harry."
[01:05:54] He said, "I love you, Mom." He was writing his note.
[01:05:59] I didn't ask him what he was writing. If I had asked him...
[01:06:06] So there's a lot of blame, self-blame that we have.
[01:06:08] We don't blame each other, but it's the guilt...
[01:06:12] that we carry every day.
[01:06:16] [Asha] Harry dies by suicide
[01:06:18] less than 12 hours after connecting with his scammer.
[01:06:25] Sextortion is on the rise,
[01:06:28] with Canada's child exploitation tip line, CyberTip,
[01:06:31] telling us it receives 50 to 80 reports a week.
[01:06:34] While girls are targeted too, 85% of victims are boys.
[01:06:39] And Harry is one of more than 50 boys across North America,
[01:06:42] Australia, and the UK who have died by suicide.
[01:06:47] In Canada, since 2021,
[01:06:49] there's Daniel Lints from Manitoba.
[01:06:53] William Doiron from New Brunswick,
[01:06:57] Carson Cleland from northern B.C.
[01:07:00] And this 14-year-old from southern B.C.
[01:07:03] These are just the reported tragedies.
[01:07:06] Experts warn the unreported cases could be much higher.
[01:07:12] [Paul Raphael] I think this is the worst scam in the world.
[01:07:15] [Asha] Paul Raphael is a cybercrime analyst
[01:07:18] and leading expert on sextortion.
[01:07:20] There's no other scam that I think even compares to this.
[01:07:23] [Asha] Paul's poured through hundreds of conversations with sextorters.
[01:07:27] We ask him to analyze ours.
[01:07:31] Yeah, so interestingly enough, I have actually seen this profile picture before
[01:07:35] -You have? Huh. -...using the name Bella, yes.
[01:07:37] And this, with 100% certainty, is a sextorter.
[01:07:41] Because look at that. She kept pushing us off Instagram.
[01:07:44] So these criminals very quickly try to take their targets
[01:07:49] to usually an encrypted messaging platform
[01:07:52] to try to make sure that their Instagram account doesn't get banned immediately.
[01:07:55] [Asha] This scammer, Bella, does exactly that.
[01:07:58] So she says...
[01:08:02] The replies keep coming.
[01:08:06] And then... she says, "Show me your [bleep]
[01:08:09] and I will send you my full naked video in return."
[01:08:12] We're not going to do that. I think we're going to have to shut
[01:08:16] -this one down. -Yeah. [Asha] The conversations get explicit.
[01:08:20] In just 24 hours,
[01:08:22] seven separate accounts ask us for nudes.
[01:08:26] Later, in a stunning twist, another scammer messages us.
[01:08:31] He grabs our headshot,
[01:08:32] alters it with an intimate image to sextort us.
[01:08:36] "Answer me right now. Four, five."
[01:08:39] He's running a countdown, demands a $50 gift card.
[01:08:42] -Don't try me. -Angry face.
[01:08:44] [Asha] He's threatening to post the picture online.
[01:08:53] Then he calls us. Hello?
[01:08:59] I don't have any money.
[01:09:05] How can I pay you? I don't have... He hung up.
[01:09:09] [Asha] When he calls again, we reveal who we are.
[01:09:12] Listen, my name is Asha Tomlinson. I'm a journalist with
[01:09:16] the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation in Toronto.
[01:09:21] We know that you're sextorting us. This was a fake profile.
[01:09:26] He hung up. As for Bella, she leaves a clue
[01:09:29] about her real identity when she texts us
[01:09:32] from a Nigerian number. So we call. What's your name?
[01:09:37] Okay. And so you had the profile
[01:09:40] set up as Bella, right?
[01:09:46] I guess I'm just trying to understand
[01:09:48] why you scam people.
[01:09:53] You don't have money?
[01:09:56] We know a lot of the financial sextortion scams right now
[01:09:59] are coming from West Africa, specifically Nigeria.
[01:10:02] [Asha] In fact, most Canadian deaths have links to Nigeria.
[01:10:06] This isn't just a public safety emergency,
[01:10:09] but this is also a national security emergency too.
[01:10:14] [Asha] Coming up, we confront one of the Yahoo Boys.
[01:10:18] So you don't ever wonder if the person
[01:10:21] on the other end is suffering
[01:10:23] because of the scamming that you've done.
[01:10:34] Hi there, Canada.
[01:10:36] Hi Siri,
[01:10:39] How are you holding up?
[01:10:43] It's been difficult to say the least.
[01:10:47] I intend to resign as party leader, as Prime Minister.
[01:10:53] The funny, not so funny thing about the
[01:10:55] world right now
[01:10:57] is the thing that can consume your thoughts
[01:11:01] is the thing you maybe didn't see coming.
[01:11:05] My favorite word? Tariff
[01:11:08] is going to be cracking down. Minimum 10% tariff on all
[01:11:11] imports. Some contracts are already getting cancelled.
[01:11:14] Facing a potential 25 or even 50% tariff on steel exports.
[01:11:18] We're already hearing about layoffs. Feeling the financial
[01:11:21] pain of Canada's 25% counter tariffs. He believes that
[01:11:24] Canadians would benefit greatly from becoming the 51st state
[01:11:28] when our sovereignty is threatened.
[01:11:31] You do what you can. He is trying to break us. So you have
[01:11:34] questions. How should Canadians be preparing for that next trip?
[01:11:38] What is your plan? How seriously are you taking
[01:11:41] this threat of 100% tariffs on foreign made films?
[01:11:44] A lot of questions. How is Hamilton bracing for tariff
[01:11:48] impact? When we talk about counter
[01:11:50] terrorists, do those affect you? How much does it cost to be
[01:11:54] patriotic when picking items at the grocery store?
[01:11:57] And while your elbows have been up, elbows up.
[01:12:02] For us, it's the sleeves rolled up.
[01:12:04] Because you need answers about your neighborhood, your world,
[01:12:08] your Canada,
[01:12:10] and what it means for all of us to say we are Canadian.
[01:12:19] Our journalists countrywide and all over the world are on the
[01:12:23] case.
[01:12:24] Do you think you're gonna have to close?
[01:12:27] I hate to think about that.
[01:12:36] I'm about 15 kilometers from the Russian border. Where are
[01:12:39] Canada's allies? Where are Canada's markets?
[01:12:42] What is this country's place on the planet?
[01:12:45] It's the uncertainty that's the
[01:12:47] this issue. What is the next thing to happen and what will
[01:12:52] it mean for all of us? We assume that it will be a
[01:12:56] difficult Rd. Canada. We got you and we are right there
[01:13:00] right beside you trying to make sense of it with you.
[01:13:27] They don't just target one person at any given time.
[01:13:29] They target as many people as they can reach out to.
[01:13:32] [Asha] ...into sending compromising photos.
[01:13:35] Then those images are used for blackmail.
[01:13:38] We create fake profiles and seven scammers ask us
[01:13:42] to send nudes in just 24 hours.
[01:13:46] Predators can reel kids in within minutes.
[01:13:49] And some, once they're in it, feel there's no way out.
[01:13:55] Come. [Mikayla whistles] [Asha] In Prince George, British Columbia,
[01:13:58] Ryan Cleland and his daughter Mikayla
[01:14:01] are still trying to make sense of it all.
[01:14:03] I had spoken with Carson about sextortion
[01:14:06] online and what to do if it happens.
[01:14:09] [Asha] Ryan wonders how his fun-loving,
[01:14:11] caring 12-year-old boy, Carson,
[01:14:14] got caught up in the unthinkable.
[01:14:16] How did that conversation go?
[01:14:18] It was awkward, very awkward.
[01:14:21] He said, "If you ever send somebody a picture of your penis...
[01:14:25] God, I wouldn't." I said, "Well, just... If you do...
[01:14:30] and they want money, just... come get me.
[01:14:33] Don't send money, don't panic, don't freak out. Come get me, we'll deal with it."
[01:14:37] [Asha] In October 2023, Carson meets who he thinks
[01:14:41] is a girl on Snapchat.
[01:14:44] They start chatting in the morning.
[01:14:46] During their conversation, Carson sends a nude photo.
[01:14:50] He knew what to do.
[01:14:52] He just couldn't think past his fear.
[01:14:54] [Asha] After just 12 hours, Carson takes his own life.
[01:14:59] He just-- he just panicked.
[01:15:02] [Asha] Recalling that day, Ryan says Carson left school early,
[01:15:06] telling his sister he wasn't feeling well.
[01:15:09] I only just found out that Carson actually
[01:15:11] went to the store that day and bought a gift card and sent it to them.
[01:15:16] So he did pay the scammer.
[01:15:20] 25-[bleep]-dollars.
[01:15:24] [sobbing]
[01:15:28] [Asha] In search of answers, Carson's sister, Mikayla,
[01:15:31] decides to read the police report. [Mikayla] He actually did
[01:15:35] go to the store and buy a gift card.
[01:15:37] They used it and then said that
[01:15:40] that it didn't work and to buy another one.
[01:15:42] He had obviously gotten a lot more scared
[01:15:45] and kind of frantic with the way he was responding and stuff.
[01:15:49] Did you get a sense of the pressure
[01:15:52] building for him?
[01:15:53] Yeah, you could definitely tell how scared
[01:15:57] and kind of stressed out he was getting
[01:15:59] and get a sense of how he would have felt through those messages when you can really see them.
[01:16:03] It's definitely the hardest part about that.
[01:16:08] He didn't know what to do. He's just a boy.
[01:16:13] And that's an adult problem.
[01:16:16] That's why they pick on the kids.
[01:16:18] That's why they look for them. They're easy targets.
[01:16:24] [Asha] Carson wasn't the only one victimised.
[01:16:26] Some of his classmates were also targeted at this school.
[01:16:34] In blackmailing, BM.
[01:16:36] We discover dozens of online groups
[01:16:39] sharing strategies and inside information
[01:16:41] on what's known as the BM sca, which stands for blackmail.
[01:16:46] Let's go in there and check that group out.
[01:16:48] We enter their forums undercover
[01:16:50] to see how they recruit new scammers.
[01:16:52] Right there, he's saying it's blackmailing.
[01:16:56] He's admitting what he's doing.
[01:16:58] They call themselves the Yahoo Boys.
[01:17:00] And they're based in Nigeria,
[01:17:02] showing off the money they make on social media.
[01:17:05] "So your deal with him is to take 70% of his salary.
[01:17:09] That's how BM works.
[01:17:10] The client must keep paying every month."
[01:17:15] We find a Yahoo Boy willing to talk.
[01:17:17] We're not revealing his identity because he fears for his safety.
[01:17:21] At first, he denies being involved
[01:17:24] in the BM scam, but then...
[01:17:26] I'm just wondering if you've run the BM scam before.
[01:17:29] Yeah, most times. Not every time.
[01:17:32] -Not every time? -Yes.
[01:17:34] [Asha] He's based in Lagos, a hotbed for cybercrime.
[01:17:37] [indistinct] it's very, very large.
[01:17:40] It's very hard to find a job.
[01:17:42] So I guess I need something doing to survive.
[01:17:45] So you don't ever wonder if the person
[01:17:48] on the other end is suffering
[01:17:51] because of the scamming that you've done?
[01:17:54] Yeah, let me just-- I don't know what to answer to that.
[01:17:58] [Asha] We also speak with a man who's left that life behind.
[01:18:01] I feel so bad after what I've done.
[01:18:03] I feel so bad. [Asha] He wants to remain anonymous
[01:18:07] because of security risks.
[01:18:09] In my case, I wanted to go to the realm,
[01:18:12] you know, of becoming a billionaire.
[01:18:14] But then you have to be diabolic.
[01:18:17] [Asha] He says he was a Yahoo Boy for a decade
[01:18:20] before the BM scam gains traction.
[01:18:23] Now he says he's a pastor,
[01:18:25] warning young Nigerian men about the dangers.
[01:18:28] You think that they know that,
[01:18:30] that they're driving some people to kill themselves
[01:18:34] because they've been scammed? So many of those people,
[01:18:37] they've sold their soul to devil. They don't care.
[01:18:42] [Asha] Coming up, we put the pressure
[01:18:45] on the Minister of Justice.
[01:18:47] We spoke to the families of two teen boys who took their lives.
[01:18:51] They feel like there's been no real action from government.
[01:18:55] What is your message to them?
[01:19:05] Working with the CBC's Visual Investigations team. Working
[01:19:09] with CBC's Visual Investigations unit,
[01:19:11] our visual investigations unit. So what's the truth?
[01:19:14] Here's what we know right now. We'll show you how this
[01:19:17] unfolded. Who's behind the most notorious deep fake ****
[01:19:20] website in the world? That's it. We've been trying to
[01:19:24] talk to you for weeks about Mr. Deepfakes and your role in it.
[01:19:27] Did some kind of Sonic weapon cause these protesters to
[01:19:30] suddenly separate?
[01:19:33] So what really did happen? We reviewed and verified all
[01:19:36] the social media footage we could find
[01:19:40] using digital clues and looking at public records. Let's map it
[01:19:44] out. We went to this location and every other to confirm
[01:19:48] ourselves, and within minutes, we're on the phone with
[01:19:51] criminals. This is illegal in Canada, right? You know that?
[01:19:55] Yeah, I know. He's not a real person.
[01:19:58] He's a I. The account was then taken down. The next day,
[01:20:01] the channel was gone.
[01:20:25] Now to some breaking news. Are you a trade deal? The world moves fast. We're gathering at one of those
[01:20:29] turning points in history. But a headline isn't the whole
[01:20:32] story. That would allow Putin to have his way without having
[01:20:35] to use force. We don't just report the news. Which outlet
[01:20:38] are you with? The Canadian public broadcast.
[01:20:40] We connect the dots. Is it about stopping drugs?
[01:20:43] Donald Trump has never met a hydrocarbon. He didn't cover it.
[01:20:46] If the facts that matter, why is that your focus right
[01:20:49] now? From the source, you can trust the National Canada's newscast.
[01:21:35] Your heart hurts so bad.
[01:21:37] [Asha] ...by a financial scam that manipulates boys
[01:21:40] into sharing nude photographs. And then they're blackmailed.
[01:21:43] "Just pay me $50."
[01:21:45] They find them on social medi, coerce them on messaging apps.
[01:21:49] "You got Telegram?"
[01:21:51] [Asha] Applying pressure until they break.
[01:21:54] Some have taken their lives.
[01:21:56] And now their parents want accountability.
[01:21:59] Cybercrime expert Paul Raphael says
[01:22:01] it's on social media companies to act.
[01:22:04] We know that the primary source of leverage
[01:22:07] that these criminals use is the followers lists.
[01:22:10] The moment that a victim accepts the criminal's follow request,
[01:22:13] their entire social network is compromised.
[01:22:15] Ultimately, it comes down to a fake account problem
[01:22:18] and platforms are very resistant to block
[01:22:22] or prevent the creation of new fake accounts.
[01:22:24] We reach out to the platforms.
[01:22:27] They all say sexual exploitation is against their terms of use.
[01:22:31] They remove accounts when users report it
[01:22:34] and proactively look for bad actors.
[01:22:36] Meta and Snapchat add they do work with law enforcement
[01:22:40] and send pop-up warnings about suspicious accounts.
[01:22:43] TikTok says teens under 16 don't have access to direct messaging.
[01:22:48] And Telegram makes it a point to say it is impossible
[01:22:51] for any platform to remove all criminal content.
[01:22:55] Carl says that's not good enough.
[01:22:58] The only way they'll ever change in doing us is if they're forced into doing it.
[01:23:03] Our lives will never be the same.
[01:23:05] And it sickens me, the attention that social media
[01:23:09] has given it, which is nothing.
[01:23:11] Absolutely nothing.
[01:23:13] It's like your kids don't matter.
[01:23:16] We look at an empty chair and an empty bed
[01:23:18] and our son is in an urn beside our bed.
[01:23:22] That's where our boy is forever.
[01:23:24] [Asha] They want the government to step in.
[01:23:28] Earlier this year, Prime Minister Mark Carney
[01:23:31] campaigns on better protecting kids from online harm.
[01:23:34] My government will act to protect children online
[01:23:38] and bring those who seek to harm them to justice.
[01:23:41] [Asha] And the man in charge of fulfilling those promises?
[01:23:44] Justice Minister Sean Fraser.
[01:23:47] For weeks, we try to get an on-camera interview.
[01:23:50] He finally agrees to talk to us over the phone.
[01:23:53] Minister Fraser, good to talk to you.
[01:23:55] [Fraser] Thanks very much for reaching out.
[01:23:58] The Liberal government committed to protecting youth online.
[01:24:01] They've campaigned on it as well. You've been in office for six months.
[01:24:05] -What's happening? -We will be moving forward
[01:24:07] with legislation to modify
[01:24:09] the criminal justice system in a number of ways,
[01:24:12] designed to help protect kids online.
[01:24:15] In particular, you should expect to see
[01:24:18] the first steps taken in the fall sitting.
[01:24:22] We spoke to the families of Carson Cleland
[01:24:25] and Harry Burke, two teen boys
[01:24:28] who took their lives after being sexstorted.
[01:24:31] They feel like there's been no real action from government.
[01:24:35] They want to see it. What is your message to them?
[01:24:40] [Fraser] Dealing with the loss of a child
[01:24:41] is the most profound grief that a family can experience.
[01:24:47] We want to do what we can as a federal government
[01:24:49] to change the laws where they are not working.
[01:24:53] What people should expect to see, in short order,
[01:24:56] is new criminal legislation
[01:24:58] that's going to address child luring,
[01:25:00] that's going to address non-consensual sharing
[01:25:02] of intimate images of deepfakes,
[01:25:04] that's going to specifically address
[01:25:07] online sexploitation and extortion of kids,
[01:25:10] in addition to new tools that we want to give
[01:25:13] to law enforcement to prevent this crime.
[01:25:17] [Asha] In the meantime, victims are finding support in each other.
[01:25:21] I was in that suicidal state of mind.
[01:25:24] [Asha] We're hiding this young man's identity
[01:25:26] to protect him from being re-victimized. We're calling him Kyle.
[01:25:29] The difference was maybe I didn't have the capability
[01:25:33] of doing something to myself, but other people do.
[01:25:36] [Asha] When Kyle is extorted in 2021,
[01:25:39] he goes to a dark place, but finds his way out
[01:25:42] by helping other victims in a Reddit community.
[01:25:45] I would check in with them daily,
[01:25:47] especially with the people who were suicidal.
[01:25:49] I'm like, "I want you to check in with me
[01:25:52] every hour on the hour."
[01:25:53] [Asha] He has this advice for those going through it no.
[01:25:56] I know it's hard at first. I was there. Calm down.
[01:26:00] Realize that this is very insignificant.
[01:26:03] Even if it had your face, there is someone
[01:26:06] who would care enough to understand.
[01:26:11] [Asha] Carl is also finding purpose in his community.
[01:26:14] We didn't know anything about it through the school system
[01:26:16] or through any sort of police involvement.
[01:26:20] [Asha] He's speaking to schools across PEI, raising awareness.
[01:26:24] I've spoken to over 5,000 children so far,
[01:26:27] and the kids that come to talk to me,
[01:26:30] they come in groups, they come in pairs,
[01:26:33] they come one at a time.
[01:26:36] They're careful, they're heartfelt. They want a hug.
[01:26:40] They thank me for what they've learned.
[01:26:42] And the stuff I'm talking about, they knew nothing about.
[01:26:45] I do it because of Harry. I don't want his name forgotten.
[01:26:49] [heartfelt music playing]
[01:27:01] [reporter] We're overseas, inside a fraud factory.
[01:27:07] Thousands of recordings leake, capturing scammers in action..
[01:27:13] ...and targeting unsuspecting Canadians.
[01:27:16] I was stupid to go there, but they are good.
[01:27:20] [reporter] Fraudsters who are fearless,
[01:27:22] even when confronted.
[01:27:28] [reporter] We joined forces with Enquête to ask
[01:27:31] who or what will stop them.
[01:27:33] If there's someone who could fix this
[01:27:35] is Prime Minister Mark Carney.
[01:27:38] Why is it still happening?
[01:27:40] Next week on your Marketplace.
[01:30:28] own us, they're basically making the
[01:30:31] same argument from the same playbook,
[01:30:33] which is to say they need us. We don't need that. We relied
[01:30:37] too much on one economic partner. It's time to stop.
[01:30:40] That time is over. The problem is that this fight isn't so
[01:30:44] straightforward because these are not 2 equal opponents
[01:30:47] getting into a fistfight. 1 is much bigger than the other,
[01:30:51] and so while both sides are talking the same kind of tough,
[01:30:55] their words mean very different things. It's wildly asymmetric,
[01:30:59] but both sides are hurting and only one side has agreed that
[01:31:03] the pain is worth it.
[01:31:10] There are probably hundreds of ways I could express to you
[01:31:14] that in a conventional economic sense,
[01:31:16] Canada fighting the US is like if this southern Tamandua were
[01:31:20] to fight this Sumatran tiger at the Nashville Zoo. No one wants
[01:31:24] to see that. But thanks to this clip they posted,
[01:31:28] we can imagine and it's horrible,
[01:31:30] the US economy is at least 13 times bigger than Canada's,
[01:31:34] which we can visualize like this. Or to put it in
[01:31:37] other way, if you take just these four
[01:31:39] American companies to retail two tech,
[01:31:42] they're combined annual revenue gets pretty darn close to the
[01:31:46] annual economic output of Canada, like the whole country,
[01:31:50] Canada. And even if you take population out of it,
[01:31:53] like we ignore the fact that the US has 300 million more
[01:31:57] people, even on a per capita basis,
[01:32:00] Americans are more productive. They're per capita GDP
[01:32:03] dramatically higher than in Canada. So not only does
[01:32:07] Canada have fewer people, those people also each output
[01:32:11] less. And I'll give you one more maybe the most relevant
[01:32:14] comparison, which is a look at trade
[01:32:17] dependency. Last year, you know how much of Canada's
[01:32:21] total merchandise exports went to the United States? As in,
[01:32:25] how important is Canada's most important customer?
[01:32:29] Just over 71% of this country's goods exports went directly
[01:32:33] South. Translation, According to one geopolitical
[01:32:37] risk agency, Canada is extraordinarily
[01:32:40] exposed. the US, by the way, only 15% of their total goods
[01:32:44] exports go north. Which is to say, Canada is important,
[01:32:48] just maybe not existentially so in quite the same way. What
[01:32:53] that means is that those trade flows, both in both directions,
[01:32:57] are about 13 times more important
[01:33:00] for our economy than they are for the US economy. So here's
[01:33:04] the really important take away. You're following the news you
[01:33:08] keep hearing about dollar for dollar, dollar for dollar,
[01:33:11] dollar for dollar, retaliatory tariffs by the
[01:33:15] Canadian government. As in this latest trade war,
[01:33:18] the US imposes 50% tariffs on $20 billion US worth of
[01:33:21] Canadian products, and then Canada announces
[01:33:25] retaliatory tariffs on $20 billion US worth of American
[01:33:29] products. This isn't nearly as equal
[01:33:31] as it sounds. 20 billion or 27. 6 billion Canadian means more
[01:33:36] to Canada than it means to the US. The two countries are not
[01:33:41] playing with equal leverage, and Canada knows this. So when
[01:33:46] Mark Carney says so confidently we have everything we need to
[01:33:51] pivot and prosper, here's the question he has to
[01:33:55] answer. How do you fight a trade war you know you can't
[01:34:00] win? Canada
[01:34:02] is the smaller partner. But that's not the only math here.
[01:34:10] This won't be easy, and I won't pretend otherwise.
[01:34:13] The trade war is like a contest where you're punching yourself
[01:34:16] in the face, hoping the other side that's
[01:34:18] also punching itself in the face will decide that it makes
[01:34:22] more sense for it to just stop punching itself in the face and
[01:34:25] come to a deal. So when one country is so much more
[01:34:28] economically dependent on the other,
[01:34:30] what does standing up to Trump actually mean in practice? Well,
[01:34:34] there are two parts to this. One is about understanding
[01:34:37] that Canada, in order to inflict pain,
[01:34:39] doesn't need every American to suffer,
[01:34:41] it just needs enough of them to complain. President Trump is
[01:34:45] losing on tariffs. The cost for him is great declines in
[01:34:48] popularity. When it comes to tarsus. Our tariffs have not
[01:34:52] done anything for the people except make everything get more
[01:34:55] expensive. If you're starting a trade war with Canada is
[01:34:58] because you're the *******.
[01:35:01] And so that's when you see these very strategic but kind
[01:35:05] of weird attacks from Canada where you sort of wonder,
[01:35:08] is that a real thing? Like that big a thing?
[01:35:11] Bourbon band is Canada's Strait of Hormuz. I mean,
[01:35:15] I don't know if I'd go that far, but it probably does feel that
[01:35:19] way to somebody. The Kentucky Distillers Association might
[01:35:23] think so. It's president just a week ago referring to how
[01:35:27] Canada pulled bourbon off the shelves completely. That's
[01:35:31] actually worse
[01:35:33] than tariff. And that feeling goes back all the way to
[01:35:35] Trump's last major trade war with Canada at the beginning of
[01:35:39] last year. Prominent Kentucky lawmakers,
[01:35:41] including Republicans, speaking out against tariffs.
[01:35:45] And by the way, if you ever want to know
[01:35:47] whether a tactic is effective, see if your opponent tries to
[01:35:51] do it back to you. Speaking of which,
[01:35:53] think about all the American nooks and crannies Canada is
[01:35:56] digging into. Beyond booze. You really start to see this trade
[01:36:00] fight differently when you realize even the metals
[01:36:03] used in identification bans for migratory birds are
[01:36:06] specifically singled out for retaliation by Canada's finance
[01:36:10] department. Like someone thought to include them and
[01:36:14] wrote those words on an official document. Because
[01:36:17] they're creating as many constituencies of Americans
[01:36:21] against tariffs as they possibly can. So I don't know
[01:36:24] what you do with flanged casing heads,
[01:36:27] but I'll bet it's important. And Big Flange is upset their
[01:36:31] products are becoming more expensive
[01:36:33] in Canada. There are states that are deeply entwined with
[01:36:36] Canada's economy that deeply rely on Canada as an export
[01:36:39] market. And they are tired of seeing their products being
[01:36:42] tariffed out of a reasonable price range. In some ways,
[01:36:45] by implementing this kind of strategy,
[01:36:47] we are then leveraging the pressure that Donald Trump is
[01:36:50] getting internally in the United States to call this off.
[01:36:54] When all your eggs are in one basket,
[01:36:56] it's really hard to say the basket doesn't matter. But even
[01:36:59] if some of those eggs are in a slightly different basket,
[01:37:02] you can say, hey, I got options.
[01:37:04] And while we can go back and forth about how persuasive any
[01:37:08] of these measures or threats actually are,
[01:37:11] as in whether Canada can cause enough of a popular support
[01:37:15] sting to actually cause Trump to back down, there is another,
[01:37:19] much longer term stated goal. The most fundamental issue is
[01:37:23] that the cumulative US demands revealed that they wanted us to
[01:37:28] become even more reliant on them, not less. For example,
[01:37:32] the president's recent threats to
[01:37:34] embargo Bombardier aircraft, the threat that is in, you know,
[01:37:38] around trying to convince firms to relocate their entire
[01:37:42] production chains over to the United States. Now,
[01:37:45] this is all very fair, but honestly,
[01:37:47] it's also all very opaque because basically the entire
[01:37:50] negotiation is happening behind closed doors,
[01:37:53] which I should say, conservatives in this country
[01:37:56] see as a big problem. We don't know what cards either side is
[01:38:00] playing in real time because the game is unfolding in
[01:38:04] private.
[01:38:05] But Canada's official argument is that whatever the Trump
[01:38:08] administration's demands are, what they see as economic
[01:38:12] integration, Canada sees as a growing source
[01:38:15] of coercion. They wanted a say in our future trade agreements
[01:38:19] with other countries, and they were offering terms
[01:38:22] that would, over time, undermine some of the most
[01:38:26] important industries in our country, including automobiles,
[01:38:30] steel and forest products. It's about ensuring that no country
[01:38:34] can ever hold
[01:38:35] US hostage. That seems to be at the heart of the strategy on
[01:38:38] the US part, to use tariffs to beat us into
[01:38:41] submission, This assumption that we are
[01:38:43] going to be worse off. The reality is these are causing
[01:38:47] pain on both sides of the border. And all we're hoping is
[01:38:50] that the Americans will stop punching themselves in the face
[01:38:54] before it becomes too much for us to keep punching ourselves
[01:38:57] in the face. And so that's why Canada believes it can take on
[01:39:01] a giant, not because there is some major
[01:39:03] win here to be notched. If anything,
[01:39:05] it's the opposite. Carney is saying quite plainly,
[01:39:09] the old economic partnership. The good times are over. But in
[01:39:13] hitting back, refusing Trump's terms and
[01:39:16] instead looking for other partnerships that feel more
[01:39:19] cooperative, Canada's goal seems to be
[01:39:22] simply to get through this war without becoming permanently
[01:39:26] vulnerable to the next one.
[01:55:06] Is the US government still a reliable investment?
[01:55:08] The latest drama with the bond market has some investors
[01:55:11] smelling desperation. Treasury Secretary Scott Besson
[01:55:14] announced that the federal government would buy back more
[01:55:17] of its own bonds. They're gonna be going from the current size
[01:55:21] of 2 billion per operation to 4 billion per operation. Percent
[01:55:24] is brought a butter knife to a gunfight. He's just messing
[01:55:28] around in the markets are saying, you know what,
[01:55:31] You're not credible. Scott Bessent did something rarely
[01:55:34] done by a Treasury Secretary
[01:55:35] when he intervened in the bond market. It's rare for a reason.
[01:55:38] Bonds have long been considered a safe and reliable bet for
[01:55:41] investors. And the government needs investors to buy these
[01:55:44] bonds because it's spending way more money than it's bringing
[01:55:47] in. So why would Bessent suddenly decide to mess with
[01:55:50] that? Some economists say it's to
[01:55:52] lower the interest the government has to pay on this
[01:55:54] debt. So maybe they've taken this boring program,
[01:55:57] and what they're trying to do is beat up the bond market and
[01:56:00] say, behave yourself. We don't like
[01:56:01] high interest rates and we're going to intervene in the bond
[01:56:04] market in order to lower them. If we take a look at U.S. Treasury yields,
[01:56:08] that's the interest the government needs to pay
[01:56:11] investors on these bonds. Over the last few months,
[01:56:14] we can see the 30 year yield has been rising steadily. The
[01:56:17] same is true for the 10 year note. And just today,
[01:56:20] Treasury yields climbed higher after Federal Reserve Chairman
[01:56:24] Kevin Walsh expressed concerns about inflation during a
[01:56:27] keynote address about U.S. economic policy. Inflation is
[01:56:30] running above our 2% target,
[01:56:32] so the Fed's predominant focus right now should be on prices.
[01:56:36] Inflation is hovering at around 3.4%,
[01:56:39] well above the Fed's 2% target. And when investors expect
[01:56:43] inflation to stay above that target,
[01:56:45] they also expect a higher yield, a better return. So they're
[01:56:49] demanding the US pays them more to loan the government money
[01:56:53] because of higher perceived risk. Last week,
[01:56:56] that sentiment reached a 20 year high. The yield on the 30
[01:57:00] year U.S. Treasury bond has hit its highest
[01:57:03] level since 2007. And if you zoom out and look at the big
[01:57:07] picture of what the country is facing right now,
[01:57:10] you can see why investors view the US as higher risk. National
[01:57:14] debt just reached a new high $40 trillion. The war in Iran
[01:57:17] has no end insight and the Trump administration is
[01:57:21] unpredictable. Recent acceleration in inflation has
[01:57:24] raised uncertainty amongst investors about,
[01:57:27] you know what, what's what are the value of
[01:57:30] those dollars going to be when I get paid back in the future?
[01:57:34] Others worry that if Bessons expanded Treasury buyback does
[01:57:37] bring down bond yields and in turn interest rates,
[01:57:40] borrowing could tick up and spur inflation at a time when
[01:57:44] the Fed would arguably like to see inflation brought down.
[01:57:48] High inflation itself is very harmful to economic prosperity.
[01:57:51] If the Fed gets inflation wrong and judges the economy wrong,
[01:57:55] gets the worst of it,
[01:57:58] not the financial high Flyers, hard working Americans are the
[01:58:01] ones left to deal with inflation that's too high. And
[01:58:04] then there's the debt. The federal budget deficit is
[01:58:07] nearly 6% of GDP, nearly $2 trillion this year.
[01:58:10] And that's the thing that has people now starting to say,
[01:58:13] are you reaching a point that this is unsustainable?
[01:58:16] Are you reaching a point where we have to worry that you might
[01:58:20] go to the nuclear option or that you might try and devalue
[01:58:23] what you have to repay your investors to try and basically
[01:58:27] not have to pay back the full amount?
[01:58:29] The higher yield can also mean higher borrowing costs for home
[01:58:33] buyers or business owners taking out a loan,
[01:58:35] because government yields often act as baseline for interest
[01:58:39] rates in other parts of the economy,
[01:58:41] and the Trump administration has made clear its desire to
[01:58:44] keep those interest rates low. When our business is good,
[01:58:48] we should lower interest rates. I do think we could go into a
[01:58:51] series of rate cuts here. Low interest rates will solve
[01:58:55] everything. With elections coming up,
[01:58:57] maybe the exercise here is to try and stage manage the
[01:59:00] interest rate to a lower level so that you can go in front of
[01:59:03] a microphone and say we've helped alleviate some of your
[01:59:06] cost of living issues. But that's the other thing about
[01:59:09] Bessant surprise announcement, at least for now. It didn't
[01:59:12] actually work to lower the government's cost of borrowing.
[01:59:15] After he made his remarks, yields did fall sharply for 10
[01:59:18] and 30 year Treasury bonds, but then started rising again
[01:59:21] the very next day. That made investors think,
[01:59:24] I'm not going to change what I think a bond is worth
[01:59:26] because you're throwing around, what,
[01:59:28] a relatively small amounts of money and bomb land. So some
[01:59:32] experts say it's a sign that this announcement was never
[01:59:35] going to be enough to move the needle.
[02:00:33] we're in Sarajevo on the trail of a young Canadian at
[02:00:36] the centre of an international police investigation.
[02:00:38] That's the man that we are looking for.
[02:00:42] He's accused of stealing tens of millions in cryptocurrency
[02:00:46] in a sophisticated digital scheme
[02:00:48] that has left some programming experts in awe.
[02:00:51] [Kyle Armstrong] To be conducting these types of transactions,
[02:00:54] you have to be very skilled.
[02:00:56] And prosecutors determined to prove he's not above the law.
[02:01:01] And so the hunt is on
[02:01:02] for the math whiz from Hamilton, Ontario.
[02:01:05] He went on to, like, be a very evil genius in that way.