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[00:00:25] (♪) >> Adrienne: TONIGHT, MARK CARNEY'S INVESTMENT SUMMIT KICKS
[00:00:29] OFF, LOOKING FOR BILLIONS TO
[00:00:29] BOOST CANADA'S ECONOMY.
[00:00:34] >> Rt. Hon. Mark Carney: IT'S A WIN FOR CANADA. >> Adrienne: THE PITCH TO INVEST HERE TO MAJOR PLAYERS, FOREIGN
[00:00:37] AND DOMESTIC. >> LET'S CONTROL OUR OWN DESTINY.
[00:00:40] >> Adrienne: THE POTENTIAL
[00:00:43] PAYOFF, AND THE LOUD PUSHBACK.
[00:00:48] >>> ONE-ON-ONE WITH THE UKRAINIAN PRESIDENT. WHAT HE THINKS THAT THE U.S.
[00:00:52] WANTS FROM PEACE TALKS. >> I THINK THAT THEY WANT TO END
[00:00:55] THE WAR.
[00:00:56] >> Adrienne: THEY WANT TO END IT
[00:00:59] IN A WAY TO SATISFY YOU, OR TO
[00:01:02] SATISFY RUSSIA?
[00:01:07] AND DOES HE PERSONALLY FEEL SAFE? A CBC NEWS EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW.
[00:01:11] (♪) >> THINKING OF SPORTS? >> Adrienne: AND THE BACKLASH OVER A RACY SPORTS GAMBLING AD.
[00:01:14] >> WE ARE NOT JUST SPECTATORS
[00:01:16] AND WE ARE NOT JUST THERE FOR PEOPLE
[00:01:19] TO GOOGLE AT US.
[00:01:22] >> Adrienne:WHY IT HAS OUTRAGED FEMALE ATHLETES AROUND THE
[00:01:25] WORLD. (♪) >> Announcer: FROM CBC NEWS, THIS IS "THE NATIONAL" WITH CHIEF CORRESPONDENT ADRIENNE
[00:01:29] ARSENAULT. (♪) >> Adrienne: THANKS FOR JOINING US. >>> TONIGHT, HUNDREDS OF C.E.O.s AND ASSET MANAGERS
[00:01:33] FROM CANADA AND AROUND THE WORLD
[00:01:36] HAVE CONVERGED ON TORONTO FOR CANADA'S FIRST EVER NATIONAL
[00:01:39] INVESTMENT SUMMIT. THE CARNEY GOVERNMENT'S GOAL TO
[00:01:42] ATTRACT A COOL TRILLION DOLLARS WORTH OF NEW INVESTMENT OVER THE
[00:01:45] NEXT FIVE YEARS.
[00:01:48] FOR MORE THAN 160 PROJECTS ACROSS THE COUNTRY, FROM MINES
[00:01:51] TO DATA CENTRES, PIPELINES TO PORTS -- PROVINCES AND THE
[00:01:55] FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WOOING SOME
[00:01:56] OF THE DEEPEST POCKETS WITH PROMISES ON TAXES AND TIGHT
[00:02:00] TIMELINES. NISHA PATEL NOW ON THE SCALE OF
[00:02:04] THE SUMMIT AND HOW IT'S ALREADY DRUMMING UP INTEREST AND PROTEST.
[00:02:06] [APPLAUSE]
[00:02:11] >> Reporter: THE DEAL MAKING HAS BEGUN ON THE FIRST DAY OF THE
[00:02:13] PRIME MINISTER'S INVESTMENT
[00:02:17] SUMMIT. BELL CANADA ANNOUNCED THAT IT
[00:02:21] IS EXPANDING A.I. DATA CENTRES IN SASKATCHEWAN WITH SPENDING THAT COULD TOP $50 BILLION. >> Rt. Hon. Mark Carney: THIS IS A WIN FOR SASKATCHEWAN AND IT'S A WIN FOR CANADA.
[00:02:24] >> Reporter: MARK CARNEY IS WELCOMING BIG INVESTORS FROM
[00:02:27] AROUND THE WORLD. FROM AN AUSTRALIAN BANK TO
[00:02:30] SINGAPORE'S STATE-OWNED INVESTMENT FIRM.
[00:02:33] THE GOAL -- UNLOCK A TRILLION DOLLARS OF NEW CAPITAL OVER THE
[00:02:35] NEXT FIVE YEARS.
[00:02:38] >> WHAT CANADA IS PUTTING ON THE
[00:02:41] TABLE, MANY PEOPLE ARE INTERESTED IN. LET'S CONTROL OUR OWN DESTINY.
[00:02:45] LET'S MAKE SURE THAT WE GET FULL VALUE FOR THESE RESOURCES AND ASSETS.
[00:02:47] >> Reporter: IT'S ALL PART OF
[00:02:50] CARNEY'S STRATEGY TO BOOST THE
[00:02:52] CANADIAN ECONOMY, WHILE BATTLING A DIFFICULT TRADE WAR WITH THE U.S.
[00:02:56] PITCHING MORE THAN 160 PROJECTS, INCLUDING BUILDING A CLEAN
[00:02:59] ENERGY PROJECT IN NEWFOUNDLAND,
[00:03:03] A CRUDE OIL PIPELINE FROM ALBERTA TO B.C., AND EXPANDING THE PORT IN CHURCHILL, MANITOBA.
[00:03:06] >> WE'RE PUSHING AGGRESSIVELY TO BE ABLE TO BREAK GROUND BY THE END OF NEXT YEAR.
[00:03:09] >> Reporter: ALSO IN THE DEAL BOOK A NICKEL MINE IN NORTHERN
[00:03:11] ONTARIO.
[00:03:13] THIS C.E.O. SAYS THAT HE HOPES
[00:03:17] THAT HE CAN SNAG SOME GLOBAL PARTNERS
[00:03:21] AND THINKS THAT CANADA WILL BENEFIT. >> A GIANT MINE, YOU KNOW, WILL
[00:03:23] PRODUCE OVER $70 BILLION OF
[00:03:27] G.D.P. OVER THE 40-YEAR LIFE OF
[00:03:30] THE MINE. HIGH-PAYING JOBS.
[00:03:34] >> Reporter: NOT EVERYONE IS ONBOARD -- >> [PROTESTING]
[00:03:38] >> Reporter:PROTESTERS OUTSIDE OF THE SUMMIT RAISING A RANGE OF
[00:03:42] CONCERNS, FROM ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT TO CANADA LOSING CONTROL OF IMPORTANT DOMESTIC PROJECTS.
[00:03:45] >> LET'S BE CLEAR -- EVERY PIECE OF OUR COUNTRY THAT WE SELL OFF TO AMERICAN BILLIONAIRES BRINGS US CLOSER TO BECOMING THE 51ST
[00:03:48] STATE.
[00:03:52] >> Reporter: THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT INSISTING THAT
[00:03:54] FOREIGN MONEY IS NECESSARY.
[00:03:56] >> WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH CAPITAL
[00:03:58] TO DEVELOP ALL OF OUR COMPANIES AND ALSO TO DEVELOP ALL OF THE
[00:04:01] INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS THAT WE NEED TO DEVELOP THE POTENTIAL OF
[00:04:04] THIS COUNTRY. WE'LL NEVER COMPROMISE OUR
[00:04:07] NATIONAL SECURITY.
[00:04:10] >> Reporter:CORPORATE CANADA IS BEING ENCOURAGED TO STEP UP TOO.
[00:04:13] OVER THE PAST WEEK, THE BIG FIVE BANKS HAVE COMMITTED TO
[00:04:16] DEPLOYING BILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO
[00:04:18] SUPPORT DOMESTIC BUSINESSES.
[00:04:22] AND PENSION FUNDS HAVE PROMISED TO SIGNIFICANTLY BUMP UP INVESTMENT AT HOME BY THE END OF THE DECADE.
[00:04:24] NISHA PATEL, CBC NEWS, TORONTO.
[00:04:28] >> Adrienne: NOW NISHA MENTIONED PROTESTERS. WELL, THEY MARCHED CLOSE TO THE
[00:04:32] SITE OF A SUMMIT GALA DINNER AT THE ART GALLERY OF ONTARIO.
[00:04:36] AND JAMIE STRASHIN IS THERE. IT CERTAINLY SEEMS NOISY.
[00:04:39] WHAT ARE YOU SEEING, JAMIE? >> Reporter: ADRIENNE, I HAVE
[00:04:43] BEEN HERE FOR ABOUT TWO HOURS ON THE WEST SIDE LEADING UP TO THE
[00:04:46] ART GALLERY OF ONTARIO IN
[00:04:47] DOWNTOWN TORONTO.
[00:04:52] THIS PROTEST STARTED AT NATHAN
[00:04:55] PHILIP SQUARE OUTSIDE OF CITY HALL. ABOUT A THOUSAND PEOPLE CAME HERE.
[00:04:58] WHEN THEY TRIED TO GET CLOSE TO THE ART GALLERY OF ONTARIO, THEY WERE MET WITH THIS BARRICADE
[00:05:01] HERE BEHIND ME.
[00:05:04] THERE'S BEEN ABOUT 100 TO 200 POLICE OFFICERS HERE FOR MOST OF THE NIGHT.
[00:05:08] THEY'VE BROUGHT IN THE MOUNTED UNIT A LITTLE WHILE AGO.
[00:05:11] PUBLIC SAFETY UNITS FROM A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT POLICE
[00:05:14] FORCES.
[00:05:16] THE PROTESTS KIND OF BROKE UP INTO FOUR DIFFERENT GROUPS
[00:05:19] TRYING TO SURROUND THE A.G.O., BUT WITH THE POLICE PRESENCE
[00:05:23] HERE, MANY PEOPLE THAT I'VE SPOKEN TO RESIGNED THAT THEY'RE
[00:05:26] NOT GOING TO GET CLOSE TO PRIME MINISTER MARK CARNEY.
[00:05:29] LUCKY ENOUGH TO GET WITHIN AN EAR SHOT SO THAT HE CAN HEAR
[00:05:33] SOME OF THE MANY DIFFERENT GRIEVANCES THIS CROWD HAS COME
[00:05:37] TO PROTEST HERE TONIGHT IN
[00:05:40] TORONTO. AGAIN, ADRIENNE, THIS STARTED IN FRONT OF TORONTO CITY HALL AND
[00:05:44] SNAKED ITS WAY THROUGH DOWNTOWN TORONTO, CLOSING STREETS.
[00:05:46] AROUND A THOUSAND PEOPLE TRYING TO GET CLOSE TO THE ART GALLERY OF TORONTO WHERE THAT EVENT IS
[00:05:50] TAKING PLACE.
[00:05:54] THEY WERE MET WITH A MASSIVE POLICE PRESENCE, ONE OF THE BIGGEST THAT I'VE SEEN DURING MY NEARLY TWO DECADES OF REPORTING
[00:05:58] HERE IN TORONTO. NO WAY THAT THEY WERE GOING TO
[00:06:02] GET CLOSE TO THE ART GALLERY UNLESS THEY WANTED TO BREACH
[00:06:04] THIS BARRICADE.
[00:06:07] NO INDICATION THAT THIS GROUP
[00:06:10] HAS ANY INCLINATION TO DO THAT AT THIS POINT. ADRIENNE? >> Adrienne: ALL RIGHT, THANK
[00:06:14] YOU.
[00:06:16] THAT IS JAMIE STRASHIN IN
[00:06:20] TORONTO. >>> WITH ME NOW ON THE SUMMIT, SENIOR BUSINESS CORRESPONDENT PETER ARMSTRONG. THE PRIME MINISTER OBVIOUSLY IS PUTTING A LOT -- A LOT INTO
[00:06:24] PROMOTING THIS. CAN YOU PUT SOME PERSPECTIVE ON HOW BIG A DEAL IT MIGHT BE?
[00:06:28] >> Reporter: IT CAN BE AN
[00:06:31] ENORMOUS DEAL, RIGHT. YOU LOOK THROUGH THAT PITCH BOOK IT COULD TRANSFORM THE ECONOMY,
[00:06:34] AND EIGHT BROAD CATEGORIES AND
[00:06:36] THESE 167 PROJECTS, AND WE ARE
[00:06:41] TALKING DATA CENTRES TO BRIDGES AND PORTS.
[00:06:42] IT'S TAKING THE STUFF THAT
[00:06:46] CANADA IS GREAT AT THAT THE
[00:06:48] WORLD WANTS AND NEEDS AND THEN INVESTING IN THAT. AND THEN INVESTING IN THE BRIDGE
[00:06:52] AND PORTS AND INFRASTRUCTURE TO GET THAT STUFF TO MARKET. GETTING THAT WOULD BE ENORMOUSLY
[00:06:54] TRANSFORMATIVE FOR THE CANADIAN ECONOMY, BUT THEY NEED THE
[00:06:58] CAPITAL. THE MONEY IN THAT ROOM COULD MAKE A BIG
[00:07:01] DIFFERENCE. >> Adrienne: SO THEY NEED A COMMITMENT.
[00:07:05] AND UP TO THIS POINT ALL OF THE FIRMS ARRIVE AND THEY NEED ALL OF THIS MONEY AND THEY ARE ARRIVING IN A COUNTRY THAT
[00:07:08] HAS HIGH CORPORATE TAXES AND A LOT OF REGULATION.
[00:07:11] SO WHY INVEST HERE, AND NOT GO SOUTH WHERE THEY DON'T FACE THAT? >> Reporter: SO THAT'S THE
[00:07:15] PITCH -- THAT CANADA HAS CHANGED AND THAT WE'RE MOVING FASTER AND
[00:07:19] THAT WE HAVE LOWERED CORPORATE
[00:07:23] TAXES. AN ANNOUNCEMENT WENT OUT TODAY ON TOP OF THE ANNOUNCEMENT ABOUT CORPORATE TAXES IN THE LAST FEDERAL BUDGET. AND PART OF THE PITCH IS THAT
[00:07:26] CANADA WANTS AND NEEDS TO DIVERSIFY AWAY FROM THE UNITED
[00:07:30] STATES AND HAVE ITS EGGS IN MORE
[00:07:33] THAN ONE BASKET, BUT THESE INVESTMENT FIRMS DO AS WELL.
[00:07:37] THEY NEED TO MAKE SURE THEY HAVE A DIVERSE APPROACH TO WHERE THEY'RE INVESTING AND HOW THEY'RE INVESTING AND THE PITCH
[00:07:40] IS THAT CANADA IS A SAFE, STABLE
[00:07:41] PLACE TO DO THAT.
[00:07:45] AND THE FACT THAT ALL OF THESE GUYS HAVE SHOWN UP IN THE NUMBERS THEY HAVE AND AT THE LEVEL THAT
[00:07:49] THEY HAVE, SAYS AT LEAST TO SOME DEGREE THAT IT'S WORKING. >> Adrienne: OKAY, BUZZ SEEMS TO BE HIGH.
[00:07:52] WHERE ARE THE DETAILS? >> Reporter: THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ASKING AND WE HAVE BEEN TRYING
[00:07:56] TO FIGURE THIS OUT SINCE WE BROKE THIS STORY BACK IN APRIL.
[00:07:59] WHAT HAPPENS ON WEDNESDAY MORNING TO TELL US WHETHER THIS
[00:08:01] WAS A SUCCESS OR NOT? THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE ONE DEAL
[00:08:05] SIGNED AT THIS CONFERENCE THAT WILL TELL US ALL OF THIS.
[00:08:09] IT WILL BE SMALL INCREMENTAL DECISIONS.
[00:08:11] IT WILL BE IN THE WEEKS AND MONTHS AHEAD.
[00:08:15] IS SOMEONE GOING TO OPEN UP AN OFFICE IN OTTAWA? IS THERE AN MOU?
[00:08:19] BUT THAT'S THE STUFF THAT WE WILL HAVE TO LOOK FOR. IT WON'T BE ONE BIG THING. >> Adrienne: WE KNOW THAT YOU'RE WATCHING, PETER ARMSTRONG, THANK YOU.
[00:08:22] >> Reporter: YOU BET. >> Adrienne:EVEN THOUGH A TRADE RIFT REMAINS BETWEEN CANADA AND THE
[00:08:26] U.S., THE PRIME MINISTER APPEARS TO BE OPEN TO THE NOTION THAT A DEAL CAN BE REACHED.
[00:08:28] >> Rt. Hon. Mark Carney: THERE
[00:08:30] IS A MUTUALLY ADVANTAGEOUS AGREEMENT THAT IS POSSIBLE
[00:08:34] BETWEEN CANADA AND THE UNITED STATES. ONE THAT RESPECTS OUR
[00:08:37] SOVEREIGNTY, RESPECTS OBVIOUSLY THE U.S.' SOVEREIGNTY AND RESPECTS OUR CULTURAL
[00:08:40] INSTITUTIONS.
[00:08:42] >> Adrienne: IN AN INTERVIEW
[00:08:46] WITH BLOOMBERG NEWS, CARNEY SAYS THAT HE WELCOMES TRUMP'S COMMENTS OVER THE
[00:08:50] WEEKEND THAT A TRADE DEAL COULD HAPPEN FAIRLY SOON, HE SAID. NEGOTIATIONS FELL APART LAST MONTH AFTER CARNEY SAID THAT
[00:08:53] WASHINGTON ADDED LAST-MINUTE CHANGES TO THE TERMS OF A
[00:08:55] POTENTIAL AGREEMENT.
[00:08:59] IN THE INTERVIEW TODAY HE SAID THAT THOSE ARE, QUOTE "RED LINES" THAT HE SAYS THAT THE
[00:09:03] TRUMP ADMINISTRATION PERHAPS
[00:09:03] UNDERSTANDS MORE CLEARLY NOW.
[00:09:08] >>> MEANWHILE, CARNEY IS STILL PUSHING AHEAD WITH STRENGTHENING CANADA'S RELATIONSHIP WITH THE
[00:09:11] EUROPEAN UNION. IN WHAT HE SAYS THAT COULD BE A UNIQUE ALLIANCE.
[00:09:15] ASHLEY BURKE NOW WITH WHAT THAT COULD LOOK LIKE. >> Rt. Hon. Mark Carney: FRIENDS NEED TO STICK TOGETHER IN THESE
[00:09:19] TIMES. >> Reporter: THE PRIME MINISTER HAS CALLED CANADA THE MOST EUROPEAN OF NON-EUROPEAN
[00:09:23] COUNTRIES.
[00:09:27] NOW HE IS FACING QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW CLOSE HE'S WILLING TO GET.
[00:09:31] >> Rt. Hon. Mark Carney: WE'RE NOT LOOKING TO BECOME A MEMBER OF THE EUROPEAN UNION. >> Reporter: BUT MARK CARNEY IS TRAVELING TO FRANCE THIS WEEK TO DEEPEN THE RELATIONSHIP IN A NEW
[00:09:35] WAY. >> Rt. Hon. Mark Carney: WE ARE
[00:09:38] LOOKING AND BEGINNING -- WE WILL BEGIN DISCUSSIONS FOR UNIQUE
[00:09:41] ALLIANCE WITH THE EUROPEAN UNION.
[00:09:44] >> Reporter: A SENIOR CANADIAN OFFICIAL SAYS THAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT WAYS TO PARTNER MORE
[00:09:48] CLOSELY, INCLUDING ON CRITICAL MINERALS, A.I., DEFENCE
[00:09:51] PROCUREMENT AND PAYMENT SYSTEMS.
[00:09:54] >> BOTH EUROPE AND CANADA ARE UNDER ATTACK, FRANKLY, BY THE
[00:09:57] UNITED STATES ON OUR ECONOMY, ON OUR SOVEREIGNTY.
[00:10:01] >> Reporter: HE SAYS THAT IS PUSHING THE E.U. AND CANADA CLOSER TOGETHER.
[00:10:04] >> THE MESSAGE TO DONALD TRUMP IS CANADA HAS OTHER OPTIONS.
[00:10:08] WE CAN SELL ELSEWHERE, AND WE CAN HAVE SECURITY PARTNERSHIPS ELSEWHERE.
[00:10:12] AND THAT'S WHAT MARK CARNEY IS GOING TO BE DOING NEXT WEEK.
[00:10:15] >> Reporter: CARNEY IS SET TO DELIVER A SPEECH TO EUROPEAN PARLIAMENT THAT IS SETTING UP AN
[00:10:19] OFFICE IN OTTAWA. AND ATTEND THE EUROPEAN
[00:10:22] COMMISSION PRESIDENT'S STATE OF THE UNION ADDRESS.
[00:10:24] BOTH SPEECHES ARE EXPECTED TO BE ABOUT WHAT MORE THEY CAN DO TOGETHER.
[00:10:28] >> WE ARE REALLY HOPING TO
[00:10:30] ACTUALLY TO SEE SOMETHING THAT
[00:10:33] GOES A STEP FURTHER THAT SAYS,
[00:10:35] NO, WE ARE DOING SOMETHING
[00:10:38] ON A NEW LEVEL HERE.
[00:10:40] >> LOOK AT TRADE, THERE IS ABOUT
[00:10:42] 8% OF OUR TRADE WITH THE E.U.,
[00:10:45] IT SHOULD BE MUCH MORE THAN
[00:10:49] THAT. >> Reporter: BUT CARNEY NEEDS TO LAY OUT WHAT IT WILL MEAN FOR CANADIANS. >> WE NEED TO FIND OUT WHAT IS ACTUALLY BEING PROPOSED AND, OF
[00:10:53] COURSE, ARE WE GOING TO GIVE UP ANY LEVEL OF SOVEREIGNTY OR CONTROL TO AN ENTITY OR A BUREAUCRACY THAT IS THOUSANDS OF
[00:10:56] KILOMETRES AWAY.
[00:10:59] >> Reporter: A SENIOR CANADIAN OFFICIAL THAT I SPOKE TO SAID THAT THE GOAL OF CANADA GETTING
[00:11:03] CLOSER TO EUROPE IS TO STRENGTHEN THE COUNTRY'S
[00:11:06] SOVEREIGNTY, AND NOT LIMIT IT. SO ANY MODEL THAT INVOLVES GIVING UP INDEPENDENCE HAS
[00:11:09] ALREADY BEEN RULED OUT, INCLUDING A TITLE CALLED ASSOCIATE MEMBER OF THE EUROPEAN
[00:11:13] UNION.
[00:11:16] >> Adrienne: ASHLEY, DO YOU HAVE ANYMORE DETAILS ABOUT WHAT THIS
[00:11:19] DEEPER RELATIONSHIP COULD LOOK
[00:11:22] LIKE FOR CANADIANS? >> Reporter: WELL, ADRIENNE, THE OFFICIALS SAID THAT THE
[00:11:26] GOVERNMENT WANTS TO GIVE CANADIANS MORE OPTIONS OVER WHERE THEY CAN STUDY AND DO BUSINESS AND RETIRE. BUT WHAT EXACTLY THIS CLOSER
[00:11:29] RELATIONSHIP LOOKS LIKE AND IS
[00:11:31] LABELLED ISN'T CLEAR YET.
[00:11:34] AND THE OFFICIAL SAID THAT IT'S NOT EXPECTED TO BE SKETCHED OUT IN MORE DETAIL UNTIL THE
[00:11:37] E.U.-CANADA SUMMIT NEXT MONTH.
[00:11:41] >> Adrienne:ALL RIGHT, WE'LL BE WATCHING. THAT IS
[00:11:44] ASHLEY BURKE IN OTTAWA. >>> JAZZ AVIATION THAT OPERATES
[00:11:48] AIR CANADA'S EXPRESS FLIGHTS HAS REACHED A
[00:11:51] TENTATIVE DEAL TO AVOID A FLIGHT ATTENDANTS' STRIKE.
[00:11:54] SO IF RATIFIED, THE DEAL IS EXPECTED TO RESOLVE THE BARGAINING DISPUTES
[00:11:57] RAISED BY THE UNION AND TO KEEP THE LARGEST REGIONAL CARRIER IN
[00:12:00] THE COUNTRY FLYING.
[00:12:03] JAZZ SEPARATES ROUGHLY 400
[00:12:05] FLIGHTS A DAY TO DOZENS OF
[00:12:09] DESTINATIONS UNDER THE AIR CANADA EXPRESS BRAND. >>> AND FLAIR IS NOW THE LATEST
[00:12:12] AIRLINE TO SECURE A BAILOUT LOAN FROM OTTAWA AS THE PRICE OF JET
[00:12:15] FUEL SOARS.
[00:12:18] THE $76 MILLION ADVANCE MUST BE
[00:12:20] REPAID IN FOUR YEARS WITH
[00:12:23] INTEREST SET BELOW MARKET RATES. BOTH AIR TRANSAT AND PORTER
[00:12:26] AIRLINES RECEIVED FEDERAL BAILOUTS SINCE THE IRAN WAR
[00:12:28] BEGAN IN FEBRUARY.
[00:12:31] >>> WELL, DONALD TRUMP IS DOUBLING DOWN ON HIS REFUSAL TO
[00:12:34] RESTRICT A.I., CALLING FEARS ABOUT THE RAPIDLY EVOLVING TECH
[00:12:38] A QUOTE "SICK CONSPIRACY."
[00:12:41] KATIE SIMPSON NOW ON WHY THE
[00:12:43] PRESIDENT IS SO RELUCTANT EVEN AS CALLS TO ACT GROW MORE
[00:12:45] URGENT. >> Reporter: U.S. PRESIDENT
[00:12:48] DONALD TRUMP AGGRESSIVELY REJECTING CALLS FOR THE
[00:12:51] DEVELOPMENT OF ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE TO BE SLOWED DOWN.
[00:12:55] IN A SERIES OF BLUNT SOCIAL
[00:12:58] MEDIA POSTS, TRUMP DESCRIBED NEW
[00:12:59] WARNINGS ABOUT A.I. AS A HOAX.
[00:13:02] SAYING THAT THE ONLY CONTROL OR
[00:13:04] GUARDRAILS THAT A.I. NEEDS IS A STRONG AND SMART HIGH I.Q.
[00:13:07] PRESIDENT.
[00:13:12] WARNING -- DON'T KILL THE GOLDEN GOOSE. IT COMES AFTER A WHISTLEBLOWER WARNED THAT A.I. COULD KILL HUMANITY.
[00:13:16] >> YOU ARE BUILDING A HUMAN
[00:13:19] LEVEL OR SUPER HUMAN LEVEL MIND
[00:13:23] WITHOUT UNDERSTANDING WHAT IT WANTS OR THINKS OR THE WAY THAT IT THINKS. I THINK THAT INTRINSICALLY SHOULD BE QUITE SCARY.
[00:13:26] >> Reporter: WHILE INDUSTRY LEADERS ARE SEEKING REGULATION
[00:13:28] AND A DEVELOPMENT SLOWDOWN.
[00:13:30] >> I DON'T THINK THAT I FULLY
[00:13:35] JUST APPRECIATED WHAT IT WOULD ACTUALLY BE LIKE WHEN THE PROGRESS WAS AS FAST AS
[00:13:38] IT WAS. >> Reporter:THESE PLEAS ARE
[00:13:41] BEING MET WITH SKEPTICISM BY THE WHITE HOUSE. >> I FEEL A LITTLE BIT WEIRD ABOUT THE FACT THAT YOU HAVE SO
[00:13:45] MANY FRONTIER A.I. TECH COMPANIES KIND OF COMING TO THE GOVERNMENT AND BEGGING THE
[00:13:48] GOVERNMENT TO REGULATE THEM. IT FEELS A LITTLE BIT TO ME LIKE
[00:13:51] A BIT OF A TROJAN HORSE. >> Reporter: THE TRUMP
[00:13:54] ADMINISTRATION HAS LONG FRAMED A.I. DEVELOPMENT AS A RACE
[00:13:57] BETWEEN THE U.S. AND CHINA.
[00:13:58] >> President Trump: I SAID IT
[00:14:01] FROM THE BEGINNING -- WHOEVER
[00:14:05] IS WINNING A.I. -- AND WE'RE LEADING BY A LOT -- WHOEVER WINS A.I., WINS. >> Reporter: IN BEIJING THERE'S
[00:14:09] ALSO CONCERNS ABOUT A.I.
[00:14:10] DEVELOPMENT, WHETHER IT POSES THREATS TO THE COMMUNIST PARTY
[00:14:14] RULE AND WHAT IT MEANS FOR CYBERSECURITY. TECH DISCUSSIONS WILL COME UP
[00:14:18] WHEN PRESIDENT XI JINPING VISITS
[00:14:19] WASHINGTON NEXT MONTH.
[00:14:23] >> IT DOESN'T MATTER WHO BUILDS THE A.I., IF THE A.I. DOES NOT STAY ON A LEASH.
[00:14:26] >> Reporter: WHATEVER DECISIONS
[00:14:28] ARE MADE, THE STAKES COULD NOT BE HIGHER AFTER A SUMMER OF
[00:14:32] DISTURBING DISCOVERY.
[00:14:36] >> OVER THE PAST COUPLE MONTHS THERE'S BEEN INSTANCES OF A.I. BREAKING OUT OF CONTAINMENT, DOING THINGS THEY WERE NOT
[00:14:39] INSTRUCTED TO DO. RESEARCHERS LOOKING AT THOSE
[00:14:42] EVENTS GOT A BIT SPOOKED AND THE CLOSER THAT PEOPLE LOOKED, THE
[00:14:46] WORSE IT GOT.
[00:14:48] >> Reporter:TECH GIANTS ARE EXPECTED TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DISCUSS THIS WITH THE PRESIDENT IN
[00:14:52] PERSON AS A SUMMIT IS BEING ORGANIZED BY THE WHITE HOUSE.
[00:14:55] >> Adrienne: SO DONALD TRUMP
[00:14:57] SEEMS TO VIEW THIS AS A RACE
[00:15:00] WITH CHINA. BUT THERE ARE CERTAINLY OTHER REASONS THAT HE MAY NOT WANT THIS TO SLOW DOWN?
[00:15:04] >> Reporter: YEAH, PART OF THE REASON THAT THE STOCK MARKETS HAVE DONE SO WELL THROUGH TARIFF
[00:15:07] UNCERTAINTY IS BECAUSE A.I. COMPANIES HAVE PUT UP SUCH BIG
[00:15:10] NUMBERS. AND TRUMP, OF COURSE, LOOKS AT
[00:15:13] THE MARKETS AS A MEASURE OF HIS OWN SUCCESS. >> Adrienne: ALL RIGHT, THANK
[00:15:16] YOU.
[00:15:19] THAT IS KATIE SIMPSON IN WASHINGTON.
[00:15:23] >>> U.S. MEDIA REPORTS SUGGEST THAT THE FIGHT OVER PUTTING DONALD TRUMP'S NAME ON THE KENNEDY CENTRE FOR THE PERFORMING ARTS IS ABOUT TO
[00:15:26] ENTER A NEW ROUND.
[00:15:30] THE "WASHINGTON POST" SAYS THAT BOARD MEMBERS HANDPICKED BY
[00:15:33] TRUMP CLAIM THAT THE CENTRE IS ON THE BRINK OF BANKRUPTCY AND IT COULD CLOSE.
[00:15:36] THEY ARGUE THAT ADDING THE PRESIDENT'S NAME TO THE BUILDING
[00:15:39] FACADE IS THE ONLY WAY TO AVOID
[00:15:41] IMMINENT FISCAL COLLAPSE. THE BOARD MEETS TUESDAY TO
[00:15:45] REVIEW ITS OPTIONS. THE KENNEDY CENTRE HASN'T YET
[00:15:48] RESPONDED TO THE REPORT. >>> WELL, SOME EUROPEAN
[00:15:51] OFFICIALS ARE ACCUSING RUSSIA OF TRYING TO SCARE THEM AWAY FROM
[00:15:54] BACKING UKRAINE. LISA XING EXPLAINS HOW A DRONE
[00:15:58] STRIKE NEAR THE UKRAINE-POLAND BORDER MAY BE MOSCOW'S ATTEMPT
[00:16:02] TO SEND A MESSAGE. >> Reporter: THE LATEST SIGN OF
[00:16:05] AN UNRELENTING WAR.
[00:16:08] THIS TRAIN PARKED AT A STATION IN UKRAINE'S FAR WEST HIT BY A
[00:16:11] RUSSIAN DRONE.
[00:16:13] >> I DON'T THINK THAT ANY OF US ON THE TRAIN ACTUALLY WERE AWARE
[00:16:16] OF IT AT THE TIME. >> Reporter: WHILE THERE WERE NO CASUALTIES, HIGH LEVEL
[00:16:20] DIPLOMATS, INCLUDING THE FORMER U.K. PRIME MINISTER BORIS
[00:16:23] JOHNSON RETURNING FROM A SECURITY CONFERENCE IN KYIV
[00:16:27] PASSED THROUGH THAT VERY STATION
[00:16:28] A SHORT TIME BEFORE.
[00:16:32] UKRAINIAN RAILWAY SAYS THAT THEY MAY HAVE BEEN THE TARGETS.
[00:16:35] JOHNSON BLAMED RUSSIAN PRESIDENT VLADIMIR PUTIN.
[00:16:38] >> HE'S LOSING RECORD NUMBERS OF MEN ON THE FRONT.
[00:16:41] AND HE'S RESORTING TO TERRORISTIC ATTACKS.
[00:16:45] >> Reporter: THE STRIKE HAPPENED JUST TWO KILOMETRES FROM POLAND,
[00:16:48] A NATO MEMBER. >>(SPEAKING ALTERNATE LANGUAGE).
[00:16:51] >> Reporter: "THIS IS AN ESCALATION," SAID POLAND'S FOREIGN MINISTER, WARNING THAT
[00:16:55] THE ATTACKS WERE MOVING CLOSER
[00:16:56] TO EUROPE AND NATO COUNTRIES.
[00:16:59] INDEED, RUSSIA HAS BEEN
[00:17:02] TARGETING UKRAINE'S GAS STATIONS AND TRAINS AND BORDER CROSSINGS
[00:17:05] IN RECENT WEEKS. OVER THE WEEKEND, ANOTHER DRONE
[00:17:09] STRIKE ON A RAILWAY STATION ALSO
[00:17:10] NEAR THE POLISH BORDER.
[00:17:13] IN A SEPARATE ATTACK, A TRUCK WAS HIT LESS THAN A KILOMETRE FROM WHERE JOHNSON PASSED
[00:17:17] THROUGH.
[00:17:19] >> WE HAVE ALL OF THESE OPTIONS AND ALSO HERE, THE MOST
[00:17:23] IMPORTANT OF THEM OF COURSE IS MAKING SURE THAT UKRAINE HAS WHAT IT NEEDS TO STAY IN THE FIGHT.
[00:17:27] >> Reporter: MEANWHILE, U.S. PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP TOLD
[00:17:30] REPORTERS KYIV HAS TO QUOTE "STOP KNOCKING OUT DIESEL FUEL
[00:17:34] IN RUSSIA," BLAMING UKRAINE'S
[00:17:36] ATTACKS FOR CREATING A SHORTAGE. LATER TRUMP ANNOUNCED ONLINE
[00:17:40] THAT UKRAINE AND RUSSIA AGREED
[00:17:43] NOT TO HIT EACH OTHER'S ENERGY
[00:17:47] TARGETS. >>(SPEAKING ALTERNATE LANGUAGE). >> Reporter: WITHOUT CONFIRMING THE CLAIM, UKRAINE'S PRESIDENT SAID THAT KYIV IS READY TO TAKE
[00:17:51] DE-ESCALATORY STEPS IN MOSCOW
[00:17:54] IF IT DOES THE SAME. THE KREMLIN WELCOMED TRUMP'S
[00:17:58] COMMENTS SINGLING OUT UKRAINE AND VOWED TO CONTINUE MILITARY OPERATIONS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY.
[00:18:00] LISA XING, CBC NEWS, TORONTO.
[00:18:05] >> Adrienne: AND IN A CBC NEWS EXCLUSIVE, UKRAINE'S PRESIDENT
[00:18:08] VOLODYMYR ZELENSKYY SPOKE ABOUT ATTACKS INCHING CLOSER TO NATO
[00:18:11] COUNTRIES AFTER A THREAT IN
[00:18:14] MOLDOVA LAST WEEK.
[00:18:17] >> IT'S VERY SIMPLE TO SHOW SUCH
[00:18:21] POWER WHEN NOBODY ANSWERS.
[00:18:21] YOU ALWAYS HAVE TO ANSWER ON ANY
[00:18:26] KIND OF RUSSIA PROVOCATION. >> Adrienne: ZELENSKYY'S FULL RESPONSE TO THAT THREAT, HIS OWN SECURITY AND HIS TAKE ON THE U.S.-CANADA TRADE WAR IN ABOUT
[00:18:30] 15 MINUTES.
[00:18:34] >>> WELL, THE AUTHOR OF "HEATED RIVALRY" IS TRYING TO HELP STRUGGLING NOVA SCOTIA LIBRARIES
[00:18:36] TO SURVIVE. >> YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE SHOULD DO WHEN THEY'RE
[00:18:40] BLESSED. >> Adrienne: THE SUPPORT THAT SHE'S HELPED TO DRUM UP AND THE
[00:18:43] PUSH FOR MORE STABLE FUNDING.
[00:18:44] PLUS --
[00:18:48] >> THINKING OF SPORTS? PROVE IT.
[00:18:51] >> Adrienne: A NEW SYDNEY SWEENEY GAMBLING AD IS GETTING A LOT OF ATTENTION FOR THE WRONG
[00:18:54] REASONS.
[00:18:58] >> PEOPLE ARE LIKE ACTUALLY, NO, WE'RE NOT COOL WITH THAT. >> Adrienne: HOW ATHLETES ARE
[00:19:00] RESPONDING.
[00:19:03] >>> AND A RACE HITS A HURDLE. WE'RE BACK IN TWO.
[00:21:18] >> COME ON, YOU. >> Adrienne: THAT'S JUST A LITTLE GLIMPSE INTO PRINCE HARRY AND MEGHAN'S LIFE AFTER RETURNING TO ENGLAND AFTER SIX
[00:21:22] YEARS IN THE U.S.
[00:21:26] MEGHAN SHARED THIS VIDEO ON SUNDAY, ALONG WITH
[00:21:30] HARRY AND ARCHIE AND LILIBET.
[00:21:33] THEY RELOCATED TO THE U.K. LAST
[00:21:34] MONTH AND REMAIN NON-WORKING
[00:21:38] ROYALS. >>> WELL, A PROVOCATIVE NEW ADVERTISING CAMPAIGN FOR A SPORTS BETTING APP IS DRAWING CONDEMNATION FROM FEMALE ATHLETES AROUND THE WORLD.
[00:21:41] THE COMMERCIAL FEATURES AMERICAN ACTRESS SYDNEY SWEENEY WEARING
[00:21:44] LITTLE OR NO CLOTHING.
[00:21:48] AS SHEEHAN DESJARDIN SHOWS US, IT IS BEING WIDELY CRITICIZED
[00:21:51] FOR SEXUALIZING WOMEN IN SPORTS.
[00:21:55] >> THINKING OF SPORTS? PROVE IT. >> Reporter: THIS NEW SPORTS
[00:21:59] GAMBLING AD FEATURING AMERICAN ACTRESS SYDNEY SWEENEY WAS MEANT
[00:22:02] TO GRAB ATTENTION.
[00:22:06] BUT NOW IT'S GOING VIRAL BECAUSE
[00:22:06] OF THE BACKLASH THAT IT SPARKED.
[00:22:12] ENRAGING FEMALE ATHLETES ALL OVER THE WORLD WHO SAY THAT SWEENEY IS SEXUALIZING WOMEN'S SPORTS, INCLUDING THIS CANADIAN
[00:22:16] OLYMPIAN WHO SAYS THAT THE AD IS DEMEANING.
[00:22:19] >> WE AREN'T JUST SPECTATORS.
[00:22:21] WE AREN'T JUST THERE FOR PEOPLE TO GOOGLE AT US, RIGHT?
[00:22:25] >> PROVE IT. >> Reporter: FRUSTRATED AND
[00:22:26] DETERMINED TO JOIN THE
[00:22:29] CONVERSATION, SHE MADE A VIDEO OF HER OWN. >> IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO SHINE
[00:22:33] LIGHT I THINK ON AN ISSUE THAT'S
[00:22:38] BIGGER THAN JUST ONE AD. >> Reporter: OTHER CANADIAN ATHLETES ARE TAKING A STAND TOO.
[00:22:41] SKELETON RACER HALLIE CLARKE
[00:22:45] POSTED.
[00:22:46] AND SPRINT CANOEIST SOFIA
[00:22:49] JENSON, AMONG THE MANY SAYING
[00:22:53] THIS IS WHAT WOMEN IN SPORT LOOKS LIKE. >> YOU SAY IT'S A STEP BACK AND YOU SEE THE STEP FORWARD IN THE ACTION THAT THIS IS NOT
[00:22:57] NORMALIZED AND ACTUALLY, NO,
[00:22:58] WE'RE NOT COOL WITH THAT.
[00:23:02] >> Reporter:SWEENEY ISN'T JUST FRONT AND CENTRE IN THE AD,
[00:23:06] SHE'S ALSO AN EQUITY HOLDER. NEITHER RESPONDED TO AN INTERVIEW REQUEST, BUT IN A
[00:23:09] STATEMENT SWEENEY SAID THAT THE
[00:23:12] AD WAS RELEASED, SWEENEY SAID
[00:23:14] THAT THE CONCEPT IS SIMPLE. TO CUT
[00:23:17] THROUGH THE NOISE AND PUT THE
[00:23:21] FOCUS ENTIRELY ON SPORTS. >> KIND OF POWER TO HER IN A WAY, BUT AT WHAT COST?
[00:23:24] >> Reporter: AND WITH SO MANY SPORT BETTING COMPANIES VYING FOR A SEAT AT THE TABLE, A SEX SELL STRATEGY MAY NOT PAY OFF,
[00:23:28] SAYS ONE SPORTS MARKETING EXPERT. >> THIS MAY BE AN INSTANCE WHERE WE SEE AND WE ARE HAVING
[00:23:31] CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THIS BRAND
[00:23:37] AND ABOUT THIS ACTRESS. BUT OVER TIME IF IT DOESN'T TRANSLATE INTO SUSTAINED CONSUMERS AND SALES, DIRECT REVENUE, THEN IT HASN'T BEEN
[00:23:41] SUCCESSFUL.
[00:23:43] >> Reporter: BACK ON THE ICE,
[00:23:47] MADELEINE SCHIAS IS TRYING TO DROWN OUT THE NOISE AND TRYING
[00:23:50] TO SHOW WHAT WOMEN IN SPORT ARE CAPABLE OF ON THE WORLD STAGE. SHEEHAN DESJARDINS, CBC NEWS,
[00:23:53] TORONTO.
[00:23:55] >> Adrienne: THE CANADIAN AUTHOR
[00:23:58] BEHIND THE STEAMY MEGA-HIT
[00:24:00] SERIES "HEATED RIVALRY" IS
[00:24:03] HELPING TO INJECT MUCH-NEEDED CASH INTO STRUGGLING LIBRARIES IN HER HOME PROVINCE OF NOVA SCOTIA. BUT AS KAYLA HOUNSELL SHOWS US,
[00:24:07] THE LIBRARIES SAY THAT IT WILL TAKE MORE SUPPORT TO JUST KEEP THE DOORS OPEN.
[00:24:10] [APPLAUSE]
[00:24:14] >> Reporter: "HEATED RIVALRY" AUTHOR RACHEL REID RECEIVED THE
[00:24:18] KIND OF WELCOME OFTEN RESERVED
[00:24:21] FOR, WELL, HOCKEY STARS.
[00:24:24] REID WAS PART OF A FUNDRAISING EVENT TO TRY TO SAVE FIVE
[00:24:27] LIBRARIES IN NOVA SCOTIA'S ANNAPOLIS VALLEY. >> I JUST WANTED TO DO IT
[00:24:32] BECAUSE I THINK THAT IS WHAT PEOPLE SHOULD DO WHEN THEY'RE BLESSED. [APPLAUSE]
[00:24:34] >> Reporter: REID HAS ENJOYED
[00:24:39] TREMENDOUS SUCCESS AS A "THE NEW
[00:24:41] YORK TIMES" BESTSELLING AUTHOR.
[00:24:43] >> VERY GOOD HOAXY. >> THE BEST PROBABLY. >> Reporter: HER ROMANCE BOOKS
[00:24:47] ABOUT GAY HOCKEY PLAYERS HAVE BEEN ADAPTED INTO THE WILDLY POPULAR TV SHOW.
[00:24:49] LAST MONTH, REID DONATED
[00:24:53] $300,000 TO THE LIBRARIES, WHICH ARE SLATED TO CLOSE DUE TO
[00:24:56] FINANCIAL ISSUES. THIS WEEKEND'S EVENT BROUGHT IN
[00:24:59] ANOTHER $70,000. DRAWING PEOPLE FROM FAR AWAY AS
[00:25:03] POLAND.
[00:25:07] >> AND THE SITUATION IS GETTING WORSE. AND SO SEEING HAPPY STORIES REALLY MAKES ME HOPE FOR A
[00:25:11] BETTER FUTURE. >> SAVE OUR LIBRARIES!
[00:25:15] >> SAVE OUR LIBRARIES! >> Reporter: IN JULY, THIS
[00:25:19] PROTEST BEGAN PEACEFULLY WITH PEOPLE CONCERNED ABOUT LIBRARIES, BUT LATER TURNED
[00:25:23] VIOLENT WITH PEOPLE DEMONSTRATING AGAINST A WHOLE
[00:25:25] HOST OF ISSUES.
[00:25:27] THE NOVA SCOTIA PREMIER WAS SWARMED AND HIS CAR WINDSHIELD
[00:25:30] SMASHED. TIM HOUSTON'S PROGRESSIVE
[00:25:34] CONSERVATIVE GOVERNMENT IS CONFRONTING A $1.2 BILLION
[00:25:37] DEFICIT. THE GOVERNMENT HAS SAID THAT IT
[00:25:40] IS GRATEFUL FOR REID'S HELP, BUT
[00:25:42] WILL NOT ALLOCATE ADDITIONA
[00:25:46] FUNDING. >> WE NEED SUSTAINABLE FUNDING WHICH INCLUDES ANNUAL INCREASES
[00:25:48] FOR INFLATION AND OTHER STANDARD
[00:25:51] INCREASES TO COSTS. >> I THINK THAT MY MESSAGE TO
[00:25:54] ALL POLITICIANS IS THAT LIBRARIES ARE AN ESSENTIAL SERVICE.
[00:25:58] THEY ARE LIKE THE FOUNDATION OF ALL OF OUR COMMUNITIES.
[00:26:01] THEY'RE HONESTLY -- LIKE THE BACKBONE OF DEMOCRATIC SOCIETY.
[00:26:04] >> Reporter: THE LIBRARIES SAY THAT REID'S GENEROSITY WILL BUY
[00:26:08] MORE TIME, BUT THE BRANCHES WILL STILL CLOSE IF THEY DON'T
[00:26:10] RECEIVE MORE FUNDING. KAYLA HOUNSELL, CBC NEWS,
[00:26:14] HALIFAX. >> Adrienne: COMING UP, MY
[00:26:17] CANADIAN EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW WITH THE UKRAINIAN PRESIDENT
[00:26:19] VOLODYMYR ZELENSKYY.
[00:26:28] >> I KNOW THAT THIS PERSON HE WILL, IF WE WILL NOT BE SO STRONG. >> Adrienne: HIS TAKE ON
[00:26:32] VLADIMIR PUTIN'S END GAME AND WHY ATTEMPTS AT PEACE HAVE
[00:26:34] FAILED AND HOW THE WAR IN IRAN IS HURTING UKRAINE'S ABILITY TO
[00:26:37] DEFEND ITSELF.
[00:26:44] >> IT IS A CHALLENGE TO TAKE OUT A BIG PACKAGE OF
[00:26:48] >> Does
[00:29:25] >>(SPEAKING ALTERNATE LANGUAGE). >> Adrienne: IN THAT VIDEO LATE MONDAY, THE UKRAINIAN PRESIDENT
[00:29:29] SAID THAT KYIV IS READY TO TAKE
[00:29:30] DE-ESCALATORY STEPS IN THE WAR, BUT ONLY IF MOSCOW DOES THE
[00:29:34] SAME. ZELENSKYY ALSO SAID THAT THERE'S
[00:29:38] A STRONG U.S. PROPOSAL FOR BOTH SIDES TO STOP STRIKES ON
[00:29:40] CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE. EARLIER THE U.S. PRESIDENT
[00:29:44] POSTED THAT UKRAINE AND RUSSIA AGREED TO NOT HIT ENERGY
[00:29:47] TARGETS. SO THIS IS A DELICATE MOMENT FOR
[00:29:51] VOLODYMYR ZELENSKYY. WE SAT DOWN LATE LAST WEEK FOR
[00:29:54] AN EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW. HIS ONLY DURING HIS TRIP HERE.
[00:29:58] AND WE SPOKE MERE MINUTES BEFORE HE LEFT CANADA.
[00:30:00] THE PLANE WAITING ON THE TARMAC.
[00:30:04] >> THEY SAY THEY REALLY WANT TO END THIS WAR. I THINK THEY WANT TO END THE
[00:30:07] WAR.
[00:30:11] >> Adrienne: THEY WANT TO END IT IN A WAY THAT WOULD SATISFY YOU, OR SATISFY RUSSIA?
[00:30:14] >> THEY WANT TO END THE WAR TO
[00:30:15] SATISFY, HMM...
[00:30:19] >> Adrienne: SOMETIMES TAKING A BEAT TO THINK OF HOW TO ANSWER A
[00:30:23] QUESTION IS A TYPE OF ANSWER ALL
[00:30:24] ON ITS OWN. PRESIDENT VOLODYMYR ZELENSKYY IS
[00:30:27] VERY CAREFUL WITH HIS WORDS RIGHT NOW.
[00:30:30] VERY CAREFUL, PERIOD.
[00:30:34] ON HIS LAST DAY ON HIS BRIEF TRIP TO CANADA,
[00:30:38] AFTER MEETING WITH FIGHTER PILOTS STRAINING IN NORTH BAY HE SAT DOWN TO TALK AT A HANGAR
[00:30:42] JUST BEFORE HEADING BACK TO UKRAINE.
[00:30:45] SAFETY, SPEED, TOP OF MIND.
[00:30:46] MANY PEOPLE IN THE WORLD WERE
[00:30:50] PRETTY WORRIED A FEW DAYS AGO WHEN THE MOLDOVAN GOVERNMENT
[00:30:54] SAID THAT A RUSSIAN DRONE HAD
[00:30:54] STRAYED INTO ITS AIR SPACE AND
[00:30:58] GOT CLOSE ENOUGH THAT THEY
[00:31:00] DELAYED YOUR FLIGHT. AT WHAT POINT DID YOU REALIZE WHAT WAS HAPPENING?
[00:31:03] >> I MEAN, THIS IS NOT THE FIRST
[00:31:08] TIME WHEN RUSSIA WANTS TO ATTACK OR THE IDEA TO ATTACK, OR TO PRESSURE USING SUCH INSTRUMENTS.
[00:31:11] IT'S NOT THE FIRST TIME.
[00:31:12] SO I'M NOT SURPRISED.
[00:31:16] MOLDOVAN GOVERNMENT WAS
[00:31:21] SURPRISED, BUT RUSSIA USE DRONES
[00:31:23] CAN THEY CAN USE DRONES, NOT
[00:31:28] ONLY IN MOLDAVIA BUT THEY USE IT BY THE WAY IN ROMANIA WHICH IS VERY CLOSE TO MOLDOVA.
[00:31:31] IT'S NOT ONLY JUST HUNTING ON ME
[00:31:35] OR ON SOMEBODY ELSE, LIKE IT WAS
[00:31:37] IN GERMANY SOME DAYS AGO. AND IT'S VERY SIMPLE TO SHOW
[00:31:41] SUCH POWER WHEN NOBODY ANSWER.
[00:31:43] YOU ALWAYS HAVE TO ANSWER ON ANY
[00:31:46] KIND OF RUSSIA PROVOCATION.
[00:31:48] MAYBE USING SOFT POWER.
[00:31:50] I MEAN, BUT YOU HAVE TO ACT.
[00:31:53] OTHERWISE THEY WILL GO FURTHER. >> Adrienne: WELL, THE C.I.A.
[00:31:56] HAS CERTAINLY SUGGESTED THAT
[00:32:00] RUSSIA WANTS TO PUSH IT WITH NATO COUNTRIES.
[00:32:04] IS THAT WHAT YOUR INTELLIGENCE AGENCIES ARE SAYING TOO? >> OF COURSE THEY WILL DO IT -- DEFINITELY.
[00:32:08] >> Adrienne: SO WHAT SORT OF RESPONSE DO YOU THINK THAT THERE SHOULD BE TO THE ROMANIANS AND
[00:32:11] TO GERMANY AND TO MOLDOVA?
[00:32:13] >> FIRST OF ALL, DESTROY ANY
[00:32:16] KIND OF THE INSTRUMENTS WHICH ARE ON THE TERRITORY.
[00:32:20] NO OTHER WAY, WITHOUT ANY KIND OF WORDS -- JUST TO DESTROY.
[00:32:24] AND THEN TO SPEAK.
[00:32:28] AND THIS IS IN DIALECT, THE WAY OF DIALECT THAT RUSSIA RESPECTS. >> Adrienne: TO HIS POINT --
[00:32:31] JUST OVER 24 HOURS AFTER THIS
[00:32:33] CONVERSATION A RUSSIAN DRONE HIT
[00:32:35] A UKRAINIAN TRAIN LINE AFTER A
[00:32:38] TRAIN CARRYING DIPLOMATS, INCLUDING FORMER BRITISH PRIME MINISTER BORIS JOHNSON HAD
[00:32:42] CROSSED INTO POLAND. HOW DO YOU MAKE PEACE IN THIS
[00:32:45] ENVIRONMENT? YOU DON'T, HE INSISTS.
[00:32:48] NOT WITHOUT THE UNITED STATES. YOU ARE STILL PUSHING FOR THE AMERICANS TO PUT MORE SANCTIONS?
[00:32:52] >> YES, OF COURSE. >> Adrienne: ANY TRACTION THERE?
[00:32:55] >> YES.
[00:33:01] JUST THAT I THINK THAT THEY HAVE TO DO IT.
[00:33:04] FIRST OF ALL, NOT BECAUSE OF US -- BUT BECAUSE OF RESPECT OF SUCH AMERICAN PEOPLE WHO
[00:33:08] SUPPORTED UKRAINE, SUPPORTED DEMOCRACY FROM THE VERY
[00:33:10] BEGINNING OF THE INVASION. >> Adrienne: ARE THEY LISTENING
[00:33:13] TO YOU IN THE UNITED STATES? >> OH, YES -- YES, OF COURSE WE ARE IN DIALOGUE AND WE HAVE
[00:33:17] CONVERSATIONS.
[00:33:23] AND THEY DO, UM, DIFFERENT THINGS. BUT THE SANCTIONS -- I THINK
[00:33:26] THAT THEY SHOULD BE MORE STRONG. DESTROY ANY CAPABILITY OF
[00:33:28] RUSSIA.
[00:33:33] I MEAN, THEY CAME CLOSE TO
[00:33:36] A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS. >> Adrienne: IF THEY WANT TO? >> HUH? >> Adrienne: IF THEY WANT TO.
[00:33:40] >> IF YOU ARE THE UNITED STATES, YOU ARE A GREAT EXAMPLE FOR THE WORLD.
[00:33:43] AND YOU ALWAYS SAY ABOUT THAT,
[00:33:47] THIS IS THE -- THE WAY OF LIFE. THEY DEMONSTRATE THIS IS THE
[00:33:50] EXAMPLE OF DEMOCRACY AND THEY
[00:33:53] HAVE GREAT POWER, OF COURSE. >> Adrienne: IF YOU HAD SECURITY GUARANTEES -- >> YEAH.
[00:33:56] >> Adrienne: WOULD YOU BE
[00:33:58] PREPARED TO ACCEPT A SITUATION
[00:34:01] WHERE UKRAINE HOLDS WHAT IT HAS AND YOU -- AND RUSSIA HOLDS WHAT
[00:34:04] IT HAS TAKEN?
[00:34:05] IF EVERYTHING WERE TO STOP --
[00:34:12] >> IT'S MEANT TO STOP ON THE
[00:34:18] BATTLEFIELD, STOP ON THE
[00:34:19] CONFLICT LINE AND MOVE ALL OF THIS
[00:34:23] SITUATION TO DIPLOMACY, TO THE DIPLOMACY, BY THE PARTNERS, BY MEDIATION OF SOME PARTNERS. YES, WE ARE READY FOR THIS.
[00:34:26] WE SAID ABOUT IT.
[00:34:28] IF THE RUSSIANS ARE READY FOR CEASEFIRE.
[00:34:32] YES, WITHOUT CONDITIONS. JUST CEASEFIRE AND SPEAK.
[00:34:35] IF THEY WILL NOT ALLOW
[00:34:38] SOMETHING, I MEAN, IN SOME PERIOD OF TIME, OKAY, THEY JUST
[00:34:42] WANT TO FIGHT IN SOME PERIOD OF TIME -- IT'S UP TO THEM.
[00:34:44] BUT IT'S A BAD IDEA. A BETTER IDEA WITHOUT LOSSES IS
[00:34:48] TO STOP THE WAR, MOVE TO DIPLOMACY.
[00:34:51] >> Adrienne: SO STEVE WITKOFF AND JARED KUSHNER THEY GO TO
[00:34:53] KYIV.
[00:34:57] YOU WATCHED THEM. JARED
[00:35:01] KUSHNER TALKS ABOUT A WIN-WIN FOR RUSSIA AND UKRAINE. AND I WATCHED YOUR BODY LANGUAGE THERE.
[00:35:04] WHAT DID IT FEEL LIKE WHEN HE SAID THAT HE'S LOOKING FOR A
[00:35:07] WIN-WIN FOR RUSSIA AND UKRAINE?
[00:35:12] >> BETWEEN US, TO BE HONEST, THERE IS NO WIN-WIN IN THIS WAR.
[00:35:15] IT CAN'T BE SO.
[00:35:21] BECAUSE SO MANY HUMAN LOSSES. IT STOPPED THE WIN-WIN AT THE
[00:35:24] FIRST DAY OF THIS WAR.
[00:35:27] THE MOST IMPORTANT VICTORY FOR
[00:35:30] EVERYBODY -- IT'S NOT FOR UKRAINE AND RUSSIA -- IT'S FOR
[00:35:33] EVERYBODY -- FOR THE WORLD.
[00:35:38] IT'S TO STOP THIS WAR. AND THIS IS A VICTORY FOR HUMAN
[00:35:41] LIVES.
[00:35:43] >> Adrienne: SO WHAT DID JARED KUSHNER WHEN YOU SAID TO HIM
[00:35:46] THERE'S NO WIN-WIN?
[00:35:48] >> IT'S NORMAL THAT WE HAVE A DIFFERENT VIEW ON IT.
[00:35:51] WE HAVE A LOT OF THINGS WHICH
[00:35:54] THEY, UM, BEGAN TO UNDERSTAND.
[00:35:58] I'M HAPPY THEY CAME TO KYIV AFTER SIX OR SEVEN TIMES THEY'VE
[00:36:02] BEEN IN MOSCOW. AND I THINK THAT THIS IS
[00:36:04] IMPORTANT.
[00:36:07] THEY HAVE TO DEMONSTRATE THIS RESPECT TO OUR PEOPLE.
[00:36:09] AND THEY DID IT.
[00:36:13] THEY ASKED US NOT TO GO TO MEDIA WITH SOME OF THESE POINTS TO
[00:36:16] DISCUSS MORE DETAILS AND TO
[00:36:20] REACT ON THE IDEAS. YEAH, SO, UM, WE WILL DO IT.
[00:36:23] AND WE ARE PREPARING FOR THE MEETING WITH PRESIDENT TRUMP IN
[00:36:25] NEW YORK. >> Adrienne: THAT MEETING IS EXPECTED AT THE END OF
[00:36:29] SEPTEMBER, BUT CONSIDER THESE COMMENTS FROM JARED KUSHNER
[00:36:32] AIRED AFTER OUR INTERVIEW. SUGGESTING TERRITORY IS THE
[00:36:34] STICKING POINT. >> PRESIDENT PUTIN HAS LAID OUT
[00:36:38] HIS LINE OF WHAT HE WANTS TO
[00:36:42] ACHIEVE IF UKRAINE, YOU KNOW,
[00:36:46] WANTED TO WITHDRAW TO THAT LINE THEN, OBVIOUSLY, WE HAVE THE REST OF THE DEAL SET UP AND PUT TOGETHER. UKRAINE RIGHT NOW DOES NOT WANT TO DO THAT.
[00:36:50] >> Adrienne: THIS MAY HELP TO EXPLAIN WHY ZELENSKYY WORRIES THAT FOR THE U.S. UKRAINE'S
[00:36:53] NEEDS ARE NOT THE PRIORITY.
[00:36:55] >> THE PROBLEM IS THAT WE HAVE
[00:37:00] TO CHANGE PUTIN'S MIND.
[00:37:02] HE HAS -- THE BIGGEST CHARACTER
[00:37:04] IN THE WORLD AND YOU NEED -- I
[00:37:07] DON'T KNOW -- SOME KILOMETRES -- FOR WHAT?
[00:37:10] THIS IS THE ANSWER. THAT'S WHY IT'S VERY STRANGE
[00:37:12] WHEN SOME PARTNERS SAY, LOOK, HE
[00:37:14] NEEDS JUST THIS PART OF UKRAINE, JUST THESE KILOMETRES AND THAT'S
[00:37:18] ALL. NO, IT'S A CRAZY IDEA.
[00:37:22] NO, HE DOESN'T NEED KILOMETRES. HE NEEDS UKRAINE.
[00:37:26] HE NEEDS UKRAINE TO BE A PART OF RUSSIA. >> Adrienne: HOW DO YOU FEEL
[00:37:29] ABOUT SITTING ACROSS FROM HIM
[00:37:30] AND TALKING?
[00:37:35] >> NOT NORMAL. FOR ME -- >> Adrienne: WHAT WOULD IT TAKE TO HAPPEN?
[00:37:38] >> NO, IT'S NOT -- I WISH --
[00:37:41] IT'S NOT THE BEST DAY FOR MY LIFE.
[00:37:45] BETTER TO SIT WITH MY FAMILY.
[00:37:48] IT'S 100% A LIE, YEAH, BECAUSE
[00:37:50] HE IS AN ENEMY, OF COURSE. TO SIT WITH AN ENEMY?
[00:37:54] FOR THE RESULT WHICH CAN BRING US CLOSER TO THE PEACE.
[00:37:58] BECAUSE I KNOW REAL HIS GOAL.
[00:38:01] I KNOW THAT THIS PERSON WANTS TO
[00:38:02] OCCUPY TOTALLY US AND HE WILL IF
[00:38:06] WE WILL NOT BE SO STRONG. AND IF THE WORLD WILL BE TIRED,
[00:38:10] OR IF I WILL NOT HAVE SECURITY GUARANTEES.
[00:38:12] WHAT DOES IT MEAN SECURITY
[00:38:17] GUARANTEES? I HAVE NOT TO BE AFRAID THAT TOMORROW HE WILL OCCUPY US. BECAUSE HE WILL NOT CHANGE HIS GOAL -- NEVER.
[00:38:20] HE WILL NOT CHANGE HIS GOAL.
[00:38:25] >> Adrienne: DO YOU FEEL THAT YOU CAN TRUST JARED KUSHNER AND
[00:38:29] STEVE WITKOFF TO UNDERSTAND WHAT
[00:38:31] YOU ARE SAYING AND TO REFLECT UKRAINE'S NEEDS AND TO
[00:38:34] MOVE NEGOTIATIONS TO A PLACE
[00:38:35] WHERE THEY NEED TO BE?
[00:38:41] DO YOU HAVE CONFIDENCE THAT THEY WILL DO THAT? BECAUSE YOU SAID THAT SIX -- HOW MANY TIMES TO RUSSIA -- ONCE TO
[00:38:45] KYIV? >> YEAH, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, HOW
[00:38:46] TO SAY THIS... UM... I THINK
[00:38:50] THAT MOSTLY IT'S A MISTAKE OF
[00:38:50] PEOPLE.
[00:38:55] THEY ALWAYS WANT, YOU KNOW, TO HOW TO SAY IT -- TO BE CLOSER TO
[00:38:57] PEOPLE WITH GREAT POWER WHO ARE IN POWER 30 YEARS, 40 YEARS,
[00:39:01] 50 -- 100 YEARS.
[00:39:05] YES, HE IS ALMOST DEAD, BUT HE
[00:39:08] IS IN POWER, AND FOR SOME
[00:39:12] PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, IT'S HUGE. IT'S NOT ABOUT JARED OR STEVE, BETWEEN US IT'S ABOUT A LOT OF AMERICANS.
[00:39:15] A LOT OF EUROPEANS.
[00:39:18] AND A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO WANT TO JUST TO HAVE A DIALECT WITH
[00:39:21] PUTIN BECAUSE HE'S THE RICHEST AND THE MOST STRONGEST.
[00:39:25] BUT WE WANT TO HAVE AN INDEPENDENT COUNTRY AND WE HAVE IT.
[00:39:29] SO WE HAVE TO TRUST EACH
[00:39:32] OTHER -- UKRAINE AND AMERICANS. AND AMERICA HAS TO DEFEND
[00:39:35] DEMOCRACIES.
[00:39:40] IF THE DEMOCRACY IS ASKING, IT
[00:39:47] IS ABOUT THE WORLD, AND IT'S ABOUT THE NORMAL RULES AND IT'S
[00:39:51] LIKE SOME BIG NATION HAS TO DEFEND SMALL NATIONS. >> Adrienne: I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT IT SURE DOESN'T FEEL
[00:39:54] LIKE THEY WANT TO?
[00:39:57] >> WHO KNOWS?
[00:40:01] THEY SAY -- I MEAN, JARED AND
[00:40:04] STEVE, THEY SAY THAT THEY REALLY
[00:40:05] WANT TO END THIS WAR. I THINK THEY WANT TO END THE
[00:40:09] WAR. YES, IT'S NOT -- >> Adrienne: THEY WANT TO END IT IN A WAY TO SATISFY YOU OR
[00:40:12] SATISFY RUSSIA? >> THEY WANT TO END THE WAR
[00:40:16] WHICH SATISFIES, HMMM, TODAY'S
[00:40:21] UNITED STATES TO END AS QUICK AS POSSIBLE. BUT WE ALL WANT TO END AS QUICK
[00:40:25] AS POSSIBLE.
[00:40:28] BUT NOT JUST, YOU KNOW, SO THAT
[00:40:32] WE SHOULD PAY FOR THIS -- ONLY ONE SIDE. >> Adrienne: WHEN WE COME BACK, WORRIES FOR HIS OWN FUTURE AND
[00:40:36] ALSO WORRIES ABOUT CANADA AND ITS RELATIONSHIP WITH THE UNITED
[00:40:38] STATES. THE 51ST STATE STUFF. WHAT IS IT LIKE TO WATCH THAT
[00:40:41] FROM AFAR? >> STRANGE.
[00:44:11] >> Adrienne: YOU'RE HERE IN CANADA.
[00:44:14] YOU JUST SIGNED A 100-YEAR DEAL.
[00:44:19] WHY A 100-YEAR DEAL?
[00:44:22] >> IT'S ABOUT ROADS, ABOUT A
[00:44:25] STRATEGIC PARTNERSHIP. IT'S ABOUT OUR NATIONS. AND A LOT OF PEOPLE, MILLIONS OF
[00:44:29] UKRAINIANS, LIVE IN CANADA. AND THEY CAME, BY THE WAY, 100
[00:44:31] YEARS AGO.
[00:44:37] AND SO IT'S VERY SYMBOLIC. IT SAYS THAT WE WILL BE TOGETHER
[00:44:41] FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME.
[00:44:44] OUR CHILDREN AND OUR GRANDCHILDREN.
[00:44:46] WE WILL WORK TOGETHER.
[00:44:50] WE WILL SHARE THE EXPERIENCE OF SECURITY, A LOT OF DIFFERENT
[00:44:52] THINGS.
[00:44:59] IT'S ABOUT ALSO ENERGY.
[00:45:01] ENERGY SECURITY. ABOUT EVERYTHING.
[00:45:05] UKRAINE HAS SUCH DOCUMENT OF STRATEGIC PARTNERSHIP WITH U.K.. IN EUROPE WE HAVE SUCH ONE AND
[00:45:08] IN THIS PART OF THE WORLD WE
[00:45:09] DIDN'T HAVE THIS WITH CANADA.
[00:45:12] >> Adrienne: I'M CURIOUS ABOUT YOUR PERSPECTIVE, BECAUSE CANADA IS AN ALLY AND CERTAINLY THE
[00:45:15] UNITED STATES IS AN ALLY. AND YOU NEED -- YOU PROBABLY
[00:45:18] NEED MORE FROM BOTH COUNTRIES. BUT YOU'RE ARRIVING AT A TIME WHEN THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN
[00:45:22] THE TWO COUNTRIES IS STRAINED.
[00:45:26] YOU KNOW THAT THERE'S A PERCEPTION THAT THE U.S. PRESIDENT IS TRYING TO BREAK
[00:45:29] THIS COUNTRY ECONOMICALLY, THE 51ST STATE STUFF. WHAT IS IT LIKE TO WATCH THAT
[00:45:32] FROM AFAR?
[00:45:38] >> IT'S STRANGE. BECAUSE I THINK THAT IT'S VERY DANGEROUS. THERE ARE SOME PROBLEMS BETWEEN
[00:45:42] NEIGHBOURS.
[00:45:48] AND WE -- WE -- THE EXAMPLE, YOU
[00:45:50] KNOW, IN ACTION.
[00:45:53] WHEN PEOPLE KNOW EACH OTHER AND
[00:45:57] WHEN THEY THINK THAT THEY ARE FRIENDS FOR ALL OF THE TIME, BECAUSE
[00:46:01] THEY ARE NEIGHBOURS AND THEY HAVE TO SECURE THEIR BORDERS AND THEY HAVE TO BE STRATEGIC
[00:46:03] PARTNERS AGAINST ANYBODY. FROM ONE SIDE THEY'RE FRIENDS
[00:46:06] BUT FROM THE OTHER SIDE THEY CAN
[00:46:11] BE ENEMIES AND ENEMIES LIKE IN OUR SITUATION WITH RUSSIA. SO THAT'S WHY I THINK THAT THE
[00:46:15] UNITED STATES AND CANADA WILL
[00:46:22] HAVE -- AND HAVE -- AND WILL HAVE
[00:46:26] DIALOGUE -- I MEAN, THEY HAVE TO HAVE IT. IT'S VERY DANGEROUS.
[00:46:30] NO CHOICE, YEAH. >> Adrienne: AT WHAT POINT DO
[00:46:33] YOU WORRY THOUGH THAT, YOU KNOW, WITH THAT RELATIONSHIP STRAINED.
[00:46:37] WITH WHAT IS HAPPENING IN IRAN THAT UKRAINE SLIPS FROM MIND AS
[00:46:40] A CONCERN? >> IT'S ABOUT DECREASING SUPPORT.
[00:46:44] SO THIS IS REALLY A BIG PROBLEM.
[00:46:47] AND, OF COURSE, WE NEED ALL TIME TO FOCUS ON IT TO -- HOW AMERICANS SAY -- MAKE A DEAL.
[00:46:51] FOR US IT'S TO STOP THE WAR.
[00:46:53] AND, OF COURSE, THE SITUATION IN
[00:46:59] IRAN AND THE MIDDLE EAST, ALL OF THESE
[00:47:03] CHALLENGES, OF COURSE IT TAKES OUT A BIG PACKAGE OF SUPPORT. SO BECAUSE OF THE WAR WE ARE NOT
[00:47:07] THE PRIORITY FOR DEFENCE.
[00:47:12] SO THE MIDDLE EAST IS A PRIORITY. THE LAST YEAR WE'VE BEEN STRONG
[00:47:15] ON THE BATTLEFIELD.
[00:47:18] AND WE MADE HUGE PROBLEMS FOR
[00:47:21] RUSSIA, BUT WE -- THE PACKAGE OF
[00:47:25] MISSILES WAS DECREASED.
[00:47:29] >> Adrienne:AND PEOPLE ARE DYING?
[00:47:33] >> PEOPLE ARE DYING BECAUSE HERE
[00:47:33] YOU CAN'T DESTROY EVERYTHING.
[00:47:38] >> Adrienne: UKRAINE HAS BEEN DEFINITELY BEEN HITTING DEEPER INTO RUSSIA. AND RUSSIA HAS BEEN HITTING MORE BALLISTIC MISSILES. AND WE WATCH THE BATTLE LINES FROM AFAR AND SOME OF US HAVE
[00:47:42] BEEN TO THE FRONT LINES AND SO WE'RE VERY INTERESTED IN WHAT IS
[00:47:44] HAPPENING.
[00:47:47] THERE IS AN EXCHANGE, YOU KNOW,
[00:47:50] TERRITORIES HELD AND THEN IT IS LOST. AND IT CAN'T GO ON FOREVER. YOU CAN'T HANG ON LIKE THIS FOREVER.
[00:47:54] >> NO, OF COURSE NOT. IT KIND OF DEPENDS ON THE WILL
[00:47:57] OF ONE PERSON.
[00:47:59] IT SOUNDS SO STRANGE THAT THERE
[00:48:08] IS NOT ENOUGH POWER OF EUROPE
[00:48:10] AND THE UNITED STATES, CANADA AND EVERYBODY -- NOT ENOUGH
[00:48:13] POWER TO STOP ONE PERSON. ONE MAN WHO IN THE KREMLIN. >> Adrienne: RUSSIA IS PERHAPS
[00:48:17] NOT HIS ONLY PROBLEM.
[00:48:22] THERE HAVE BEEN PROTESTS IN
[00:48:24] UKRAINE CALLING FOR ELECTIONS, THAT HAVE
[00:48:28] BEEN SUSPENDED SINCE THE WAR. AND HE'S FOUND HIMSELF AT SERIOUS ODDS WITH HIS FORMER DEFENCE MINISTER. WE KNOW THAT YOU AND YOUR FORMER
[00:48:31] DEFENCE MINISTER WERE ON THE SAME PAGE ON HOW TO PROSECUTE
[00:48:33] THE WAR AGAINST RUSSIA.
[00:48:36] AND NOW HE'S NOT THERE. HE'S CALLING FOR WARTIME ELECTIONS AND YOU DON'T SEEM TO
[00:48:39] BE ON THE SAME PAGE.
[00:48:40] WHAT HAPPENED?
[00:48:48] >> I AM NOT SURE THAT I WILL
[00:48:51] BE ABLE TO -- I MEAN, TO EXPLAIN
[00:48:52] IT, BECAUSE THERE'S SOME INTERNAL QUESTIONS.
[00:48:56] NO, WHAT HAPPENS -- DURING A LONG WAR, A LOT OF THINGS ARE
[00:49:00] HAPPENING. IT IS MY DECISION TO CHANGE THE MINISTER.
[00:49:03] AND I CHANGED THE GOVERNMENT, NOT THE MINISTER -- I CHANGED THE GOVERNMENT.
[00:49:07] I DON'T KNOW HOW TO SAY IT IN
[00:49:07] ENGLISH CORRECTLY.
[00:49:17] SO... IF YOU WANT TO WIN THIS WAR, IT'S MEANT TO SAVE YOUR COUNTRY, AND YOU CAN'T FOCUS ON YOURSELF.
[00:49:20] YOU HAVE TO FOCUS ON YOUR
[00:49:24] COUNTRY.
[00:49:29] AND IT'S ALL ABOUT YOUR STEPS, MOVING, AND YOU HAVE TO BE READY
[00:49:31] THAT SOMEBODY WILL CHANGE YOU
[00:49:34] ACCORDING TO YOUR LAW.
[00:49:37] THE COUNTRY HAS TO BE ONE TEAM,
[00:49:42] ONE TEAM. EXCELLENT TEAM. OR NOT EXCELLENT TEAM.
[00:49:46] BUT ONE TEAM. >> Adrienne: DO YOU HAVE ANY DOUBTS THAT UKRAINE IS ONE TEAM NOW? >> YES, OF COURSE, WE ARE ONE
[00:49:49] TEAM.
[00:49:52] I MEAN, THERE ARE QUESTIONS -- A
[00:49:56] MILLION
[00:49:56] QUESTIONS EACH DAY, INCLUDING
[00:50:01] GOVERNMENT AND PARLIAMENT -- AND PARLIAMENT, YOU KNOW, 100 TEAMS, BUT WHEN YOU NEED SOME VERY SPECIFIC THINGS, YOU HAVE TO BE
[00:50:05] ONE TEAM.
[00:50:08] YOU HAVE TO BE THE -- THE POWER
[00:50:10] AND THE POSITION, DIFFERENT PARTIES AND SOMEBODY SUPPORTS
[00:50:13] AND SOMEBODY DOESN'T SUPPORT.
[00:50:16] BUT NOT TO MAKE MISTAKES. >> Adrienne: TWO QUESTIONS.
[00:50:19] >> YEAH, PLEASE. >> Adrienne: ARE YOU GOING TO BE OKAY?
[00:50:22] AND IS UKRAINE GOING TO BE OKAY?
[00:50:26] >> I'M OKAY IF UKRAINE IS OKAY. YEAH? BUT UKRAINE WILL BE OKAY.
[00:50:30] >> Adrienne: AND YOU? >> AND I DON'T KNOW -- I DON'T
[00:50:33] KNOW. IT DEPENDS ON MANY DIFFERENT THINGS.
[00:50:36] YEAH. IF WE SPEAK ABOUT SECURITY, I
[00:50:40] HOPE, YES, I THINK THAT I HAVE STRONG BODYGUARDS BUT WE WILL SEE.
[00:50:43] [LAUGHTER]
[00:50:48] >> Adrienne:WELL, I MEAN, IT CERTAINLY LOOKS LIKE IT.
[00:50:52] MR. PRESIDENT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I APPRECIATE IT. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> Adrienne: SO AS YOU HEARD HIM SAY THERE, VOLODYMYR ZELENSKYY
[00:50:56] WAS IN CANADA LAST WEEK TO SIGN THIS LONG-TERM PARTNERSHIP WITH OTTAWA. THE AGREEMENT INCLUDES A PLAN TO
[00:50:59] BUILD MILLIONS OF DRONES.
[00:51:03] (♪) >>> WELL, COMING UP, FLASH FLOODING ADDS A NEW OBSTACLE TO
[00:51:07] A NEW JERSEY RACE.
[00:51:09] >> NORMAL HALF MARATHON TURNED
[00:51:12] INTO TWO-THIRDS OF A MARATHON UNEXPECTEDLY. >> Adrienne: CRAZY.
[00:51:16] HOW COMPETITORS NAVIGATED THOSE WATERS NEXT IN OUR "MOMENT." >> Annou
[00:54:58] >> Adrienne: THIS IS JULIA KARENS RUNNING, OR AT LEAST TRYING TO RUN A HALF MARATHON
[00:55:00] AFTER HEAVY RAIN LED TO FLASH FLOODING IN NEW JERSEY.
[00:55:04] SO THE RUNNERS WERE FORCED TO NAVIGATE WAIST HIGH WATERS IN
[00:55:07] ORDER TO GET TO THE FINISH LINE.
[00:55:09] TONIGHT THAT WET AND WILD RACE MAKES OUR "MOMENT."
[00:55:13] >> NORMAL HALF-MARATHON TURNED
[00:55:19] INTO TWO-THIRDS OF A TRIATHLON
[00:55:24] UNEXPECTEDLY. >> COME ON, JULIE. >> MY FRIEND AND I SIGNED UP FOR THE RACE.
[00:55:26] IT TURNED OUT TO BE A SUPER RAINY MONSOON KIND OF LIKE FLASH
[00:55:29] FLOOD. WE ENDED UP THINKING THAT THEY
[00:55:32] WERE GOING TO CANCEL IT.
[00:55:33] NO NOTIFICATIONS CAME OUT.
[00:55:37] AND SO WE ARE LIKE WE JUST GOT TO EMBRACE IT, YOU KNOW?
[00:55:40] LIKE, WE'RE HERE. WE SIGNED UP FOR IT.
[00:55:43] WE'VE GOT TO TAKE IT ON THE
[00:55:47] CHEST AND GO FOR IT. IT WAS COMING DOWN, LIKE REALLY HARD AT THE START. ALL OF A SUDDEN SOME AREAS JUST
[00:55:50] GOT EXTREMELY FLOODED TO THE POINT WHERE YOU WERE LIKE WADING THROUGH, LIKE, ALMOST WAIST HIGH
[00:55:54] WATER. SOMETIMES IT WAS ONLY KNEE OR
[00:55:57] ANKLE HIGH AND YOU KEPT YOUR KNEES HIGH ENOUGH TO RUN JUST A
[00:55:59] LITTLE BIT OVER THE WATER.
[00:56:05] I WAS MAINLY WORRIED ABOUT
[00:56:06] LOSING A SHOE.
[00:56:11] WE WERE JUST TRYING TO LAUGH OUR WAY THROUGH AND REALLY JUST PUSH
[00:56:13] OURSELVES AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. >> Adrienne: OKAY.
[00:56:17] THEY ARE MADE OF DIFFERENT STUFF. I HAVE SO MANY QUESTIONS -- WHY WAS THAT RACE ALLOWED TO
[00:56:20] CONTINUE?
[00:56:23] INCREDIBLY, HER GOAL WAS TO RUN
[00:56:26] A SUB TWO HOUR HALF-MARATHON AND SHE STILL MANAGED SOMEHOW TO DO IT.
[00:56:29] WELL DONE YOU. FROM ALL OF US AT "THE NATIONAL," THANKS FOR BEING WITH
[00:56:32] US.
[00:56:36] I'M ADRIENNE ARSENAULT. TAKE CARE.
[00:56:39] (♪)
[00:56:43] (♪)
[01:00:25] (♪) >> Adrienne: TONIGHT, MARK CARNEY'S INVESTMENT SUMMIT KICKS
[01:00:29] OFF, LOOKING FOR BILLIONS TO
[01:00:29] BOOST CANADA'S ECONOMY.
[01:00:34] >> Rt. Hon. Mark Carney: IT'S A WIN FOR CANADA. >> Adrienne: THE PITCH TO INVEST HERE TO MAJOR PLAYERS, FOREIGN
[01:00:37] AND DOMESTIC. >> LET'S CONTROL OUR OWN DESTINY.
[01:00:40] >> Adrienne: THE POTENTIAL
[01:00:43] PAYOFF, AND THE LOUD PUSHBACK.
[01:00:48] >>> ONE-ON-ONE WITH THE UKRAINIAN PRESIDENT. WHAT HE THINKS THAT THE U.S.
[01:00:52] WANTS FROM PEACE TALKS. >> I THINK THAT THEY WANT TO END
[01:00:55] THE WAR.
[01:00:56] >> Adrienne: THEY WANT TO END IT
[01:00:59] IN A WAY TO SATISFY YOU, OR TO
[01:01:02] SATISFY RUSSIA?