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[00:00:00] WE WILL CANNOT TO BUILD MUTUAL
[00:00:03] RESPECT, WIN-WIN PARTNERSHIPS WHERE EVERYBODY WINS.
[00:00:07] PEACE AND RESPECT. I THINK THESE ARE IMPORTANT VALUES.
[00:00:10] I WOULD SAY THIS IS WHAT GUIDE
[00:00:12] US AND GUIDES MANY PEOPLE AROUND THE WORLD. >> Rosemary: DO YOU THINK
[00:00:16] THERE'S A MOMENT HERE FOR CANADA? CERTAINLY THE PRIME MINISTER HAS
[00:00:19] BEEN TALKING ABOUT MOMENTUM. HE'S HAD A VERY BUSY WEEK.
[00:00:22] IS THERE A MOMENT WHERE THE WORLD IS LOOKING OR EUROPE IS
[00:00:26] LOOKING AT CANADA IN A DIFFERENT WAY THAN IT DID BEFORE?
[00:00:28] >> I THINK THE PRIME MINISTER
[00:00:30] CARNEY HAS A CLEAR VISION THAT MIDDLE POWER HAVE TO JOIN
[00:00:34] FORCES. WE CAN DISCUSS WHETHER THE EUROPEAN UNION IS A MIDDLE POWER.
[00:00:37] WE ARE VERY STRONG.
[00:00:39] WE ARE VERY STRONG, THE EUROPEAN
[00:00:42] UNION IS STRONG. CANADA IS VON. BUT WE'RE STRONGER TODAY.
[00:00:46] THAT'S THE VISION THAT WE NEED
[00:00:48] TO BUILD WORKING TOGETHER AND IN THE CASE OF EUROPEAN UNION,
[00:00:52] INVESTMENT BANK. WE DO NOT DO REGULATION.
[00:00:54] WE DO NOT DO HIGH POLITICS.
[00:00:56] WE PUT IN IN THE MONEY TO
[00:01:00] SUPPORT CITIZENS AND BUSINESSES.
[00:01:02] I THINK THERE'S MOMENTUM IN THE
[00:01:06] COOPERATION WITH CANADA. >> Rosemary: BECAUSE THINGS
[00:01:09] ARE SO UNSTABLE FROM AN ECONOMIC
[00:01:13] PERSPECTIVE, AS WE DON'T KNOW FROM ONE DAY TO THE NEXT WHAT THE PRESIDENT IS GOING TO DO IN
[00:01:17] TERMS TARIFFS. IS THE UNITED STATES STILL PLACE
[00:01:21] WHERE THE EUROPEAN INVESTMENT BANK WILL WANT TO INVEST?
[00:01:24] IS THAT TOO HIGH RISK?
[00:01:26] >> WE DON'T HAVE OPERATIONS IN THE U.S.
[00:01:30] LET ME SHARE A VERY INTERESTING INSIGHT. WE HAVE CONTACT WITH THOUSANDS
[00:01:33] OF COMPANIES THAT OPERATE ON
[00:01:36] BOTH SIDES OF THE ATLANTIC. WE DO REGULAR SURVEYS.
[00:01:39] IT'S INTERESTING TO SEE THE CONSISTENCY THAT IT IS U.S.
[00:01:42] FIRMS THAT ARE SUFFERING THE MOST FROM THE TARIFF WAR.
[00:01:45] EUROPEAN COMPANIES HAVE ADJUSTED. THEY ARE LOOKING FOR NEW PARTNERSHIPS.
[00:01:49] NEW MARKETS. THEY ARE GETTING ON WITH IT.
[00:01:53] IT IS THE U.S. COMPANIES AND
[00:01:54] U.S. CITIZENS THAT END UP PAYING
[00:01:57] THIS POLITICS AND THESE POLICIES.
[00:02:00] I SAY TIME WILL SHOW HOW
[00:02:04] IMPORTANT IT IS TO PROVIDE TRUST AND STABILITY.
[00:02:06] THIS IS THE CURRENCY OF CHOICE
[00:02:08] FOR THE WORLD RIGHT NOW.
[00:02:10] I THINK CANADA AND THE E.U.
[00:02:14] SHARING THE RIGHT APPROACH.
[00:02:16] >> Rosemary: SO NICE TO SEE YOU.
[00:02:18] THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
[00:02:21] MARK CARNEY'S AMBITIONS FOR CLOSER PARTNERSHIP WITH THE E.U.
[00:02:24] PRETTY CLEAR. BUT HAVE THE LIBERALS SOLD THE
[00:02:28] MOVE POLITICALLY? DO CLOSER TIES WITH EUROPE CARRY RISKS?
[00:02:31] WHAT QUESTIONS REMAIN. OUR "SUNDAY SCRUM" IS STANDING BY.
[00:02:34] YOU'RE WATCHING "ROSEMARY BARTON LIVE."
[00:05:00] >> Prime Minister Carney: WE LAUNCHED THE PROCESS FOR A NEW ALLIANCE WITH THE EUROPEAN UNION.
[00:05:04] AN ALLIANCE FOR THE FUTURE.
[00:05:07] IT'S AN ALLIANCE THAT'S ROOTED
[00:05:08] IN COMMON VALUES.
[00:05:12] FREEDOM, SOLIDARITY, PROSPERITY, SUSTAINABILITY.
[00:05:16] IT'S ONE THAT'S DEDICATED TO
[00:05:20] STRENGTHENING OUR SOVEREIGNTY. >> CONSERVATIVES SAY NO E.U. TAXES.
[00:05:24] NO E.U. LAWS.
[00:05:26] NO E.U. OPEN BORDER RULES ON IMMIGRATION IN CANADA.
[00:05:30] [ APPLAUSE ] >> Rosemary: THAT WAS PRIME
[00:05:33] MINISTER AND OPPOSITION LEADER ADDRESSING THEIR CAUCUS LAST
[00:05:35] WEEK, DISCUSSING THE MERIT AND
[00:05:37] CONCERNS ABOUT THIS CLOSER
[00:05:41] RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN CANADA THE E.U. HOW HAS LIBERALS PRESENTED THIS
[00:05:44] PLAN TO CANADIANS? WHAT IS THE POLITICAL RISK IF
[00:05:47] THERE IS ANY.
[00:05:48] LET'S BRING BACK OUR "SUNDAY
[00:05:53] SCRUM." AARON WHERRY AND GARY MASON A
[00:05:57] COLUMNIST WITH THE GLOBAL MAIL. AARON, I WILL START WITH YOU.
[00:05:59] I WILL SAY THAT INTERVIEW I JUST
[00:06:02] DID WITH THE HEAD OF INVESTMENT
[00:06:06] BANK, EUROPEAN INVESTMENT BANK HELPED ME UNDERSTAND LITTLE BIT
[00:06:09] SOME OF THE ADVANTAGES FOR
[00:06:12] CANADA THEY ARE LOOKING TO PARK THEIR MONEY IN PLACES.
[00:06:15] I'M NOT SURE WE HAVE A CLEAR
[00:06:19] PICTURE BEYOND THOSE THINGS WHAT THE PRIME MINISTER HAS SAID WHAT
[00:06:22] THIS IS AND WHAT THE CHALLENGES MIGHT BE GOING FORWARD?
[00:06:25] >> I THINK A LOT OF DETAILS
[00:06:27] REMAIN TO BE SEEN.
[00:06:30] I THINK SOME EXECUTION OR
[00:06:33] DISTRACTION AROUND WHAT EXACTLY CALL THIS.
[00:06:36] WAS IT ASSOCIATE MEMBERSHIP OR NOT.
[00:06:38] THAT'S TITLE THAT HAS NO LEGAL
[00:06:40] SIGNIFICANCE WHATSOEVER. I THINK THERE WAS SOME
[00:06:43] OVERREACTION ON THE OTHER SIDE.
[00:06:47] IN THAT CLIP YOU PLAYED FROM PIERRE POILIEVRE, WHERE THE
[00:06:51] CONSERVATIVES SEEM TO BE ADAMANT THAT HE OPPOSE A NUMBER THINGS
[00:06:53] THAT NO ONE SEEMS TO BE PROPOSING.
[00:06:55] I THINK THERE'S A LOT THAT NEEDS
[00:06:58] TO BE SPELLED HOW. I THINK THE CANADIAN PUBLIC FOR
[00:07:01] ONE IS VERY INTERESTED IN CLOSER
[00:07:04] TIES WITH EUROPE.
[00:07:06] I THINK THAT IF WE'RE ALL
[00:07:09] AGREEING, IT'S ALL POLITICAL PARTIES AGREED THAT CANADA NEEDS
[00:07:12] TO DIVERSIFY ITS EXPORTS,
[00:07:15] DIVERSIFY ITS INTERNATIONAL
[00:07:19] ALLIANCES, A NATURAL ROUTE TO GO
[00:07:21] WILL BE TO EUROPE. OBVIOUSLY.
[00:07:23] I THINK THERE'S OBVIOUSLY GOING TO BE A BIG DISCUSSION MAYBE A
[00:07:27] MONTH OR SO FROM NOW WHEN THEY HAVE THIS SUMMIT IN MONTREAL AND
[00:07:30] WE'LL SOW WHAT COMES OUT OF THAT.
[00:07:34] THERE'S ALWAYS SOME AMOUNT OF FRICTION WHEN YOU TRY TO PUT TOGETHER DEALS LIKE THIS.
[00:07:38] I THINK ON THE BASIC IDEA OF IT.
[00:07:42] I THINK MARK CARNEY PROBABLY HAS THE PUBLIC ON HIS SIDE.
[00:07:45] IT REMAINS TO BE SEEN WHAT IT
[00:07:48] LOOKS LIKE IN PRACTICE. >> Rosemary: AARON REFERRING
[00:07:51] TO THE PUBLIC OPINION POLLS THAT
[00:07:53] SHOW VERY MUCH CANADIANS ARE INTERESTED THIS IDEA.
[00:07:56] I DO THIS WILL DEPEND ON WHAT THE DEAL IS.
[00:08:00] WHAT MORE ARE WE TALKING ABOUT BEYOND STUDENT EXCHANGE
[00:08:03] PROGRAMME, WHICH SOUNDS OKAY.
[00:08:05] THEN BEYOND WHAT IS IN CETA
[00:08:10] ALREADY. >> I THINK IN A WAY THIS WHOLE
[00:08:11] THING IS SORT OF GOING BACK TO
[00:08:15] THE BASICS OF CANADA.
[00:08:19] COMING FROM A PART OF THE
[00:08:23] COUNTRY WHERE --
[00:08:26] [ INDISCERNIBLE ]
[00:08:29] EUROPE NEEDED NEWSPAPERS. THEY THOUGHT NEWSPAPER WAS GREAT.
[00:08:33] THERE GOES CANADIAN FOREST. NOW IT'S CRITICAL MINERAL AND
[00:08:35] OTHER THINGS.
[00:08:37] I DO EXPECT THIS IDEA OF CANADA
[00:08:42] THIS VAST INFINITE RESERVE OF
[00:08:46] NATURAL RESOURCES TO BE PART OF
[00:08:50] THE EUROPEAN IMAGINARY.
[00:08:55] I'M INTERESTED WHAT'S NEW.
[00:08:57] WHETHER WE CAN SEE EUROPE AS A
[00:09:00] PLACE TO EXTRACT RESOURCES FROM
[00:09:04] BUT A MARKET THAT I LIKE TO SEE
[00:09:06] MORE EUROPEAN CARS AND SMALLER APPLIANCES.
[00:09:09] IT WILL MAKE US LESS WASTEFUL.
[00:09:12] JUST THE INNOVATION, THE
[00:09:14] UNIVERSITY INDUSTRY THAT IS VERY MUCH BEING DISRUPTED BY TRUMPISM
[00:09:18] IN THE U.S. AND WHAT IT CAN MEAN
[00:09:21] FOR CANADIAN UNIVERSITIES.
[00:09:25] THERE'S MANY THINGS THAT COULD
[00:09:27] BE DONE BEYOND WHAT HAS BEEN
[00:09:29] DONE HISTORICALLY.
[00:09:33] S GOING TO NEED TIME TO SEE MORE CLEARLY BUT THINK TO THINK
[00:09:37] OUTSIDE THE BOX.
[00:09:39] >> Rosemary: FOR SURE. GARY, WHAT DO YOU THINK PEOPLE SHOULD BE THINKING ABOUT?
[00:09:43] >> I THINK THAT WE SHOULD BE
[00:09:47] TEMPERING OUR EXPECTATIONS ABOUT
[00:09:48] WHAT THIS COULD MEAN FOR CANADA.
[00:09:52] YOU ALREADY MENTIONED THAT WE
[00:09:55] HAVE FREE TRADE AGREEMENT THAT WAS SIGNED 2017.
[00:09:58] IT STILL HASN'T BEEN RATIFIED BY
[00:10:00] 10 OF THE 27 E.U. COUNTRIES.
[00:10:03] IT HAS MEANT SOME BOOST IN TRADE
[00:10:06] BETWEEN CANADA AND THE E.U.
[00:10:09] I THINK WE HAD ABOUT $24 BILLION
[00:10:11] WORTH OF TRADE IN 2017.
[00:10:14] THAT GREW TO $43 BILLION IN 2025.
[00:10:18] IT'S NOT INSIGNIFICANT.
[00:10:20] BUT, AS A PART OF THE GLOBAL
[00:10:23] TRADE PART FOR CANADA, IN 2017,
[00:10:30] EUROPE REPRESENTED ABOUT 4.4% OF
[00:10:33] TRADE WITH CANADA AND IN 2025,
[00:10:38] IT GREW 5.5%.
[00:10:41] IT HASN'T BEEN A GREAT MOTHER
[00:10:44] LOAD OF INVESTMENT IN TRADE.
[00:10:47] WE SIGNED STRATEGIC PARTNERSHIP AGREEMENT AROUND SECURITY AND
[00:10:51] CLIMATE CHANGE AND OTHER ISSUES IN 2016 WITH EUROPE.
[00:10:54] IT'S STILL HASN'T BEEN FULLY
[00:10:59] RATIFIED EITHER. SOMETIMES THESE IDEAS SOUND
[00:11:02] GREAT IN THEORY BUT THEY ARE
[00:11:05] HARDER TO EXECUTE IN PRACTICAL
[00:11:08] TERMS. I THINK IN MANY WAYS, IT'S ALMOST SYMBOLIC.
[00:11:12] IT'S A SYMBOLIC GESTURE THAT
[00:11:15] SAYS THESE ARE THE PEOPLE WE ARE
[00:11:19] MORE IDEOLOGICALLY ALIGNED WITH WHO WE SHARE VALUES WITH.
[00:11:22] IT'S JUST ANOTHER MESSAGE TO THE WORLD BUT MOSTLY A MESSAGE TO
[00:11:25] THE UNITED STATES THAT THESE ARE
[00:11:27] THE PEOPLE WE FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH.
[00:11:30] >> Rosemary: I'M SURE WE'LL LOOK BACK ON THIS MOMENT AND
[00:11:34] THINK, THIS WAS A REMARKABLE MOMENT.
[00:11:36] WHETHER THESE PIVOTS HAPPEN AND DO GOOD OR NOT.
[00:11:40] I DON'T KNOW. IT IS A REMARKABLE SHIFT.
[00:11:42] I WONDER, AARON, WHETHER THERE
[00:11:45] SHOULD BE CONCERNS ABOUT WHAT MEANS FOR THE RELATIONSHIP WITH
[00:11:48] THE UNITED STATES, WHICH IS IN
[00:11:51] PRETTY DIRE PLACE RIGHT NOW. OBVIOUSLY, THIS IS SOMETHING
[00:11:53] THAT THE PRESIDENT HAS NOTICED. HE'S MADE THREATS ABOUT.
[00:11:57] WE'LL SEE WHETHER THE TWO LEADERS TALK IN NEW YORK.
[00:12:00] ARE THERE CONCERNS THERE TOO
[00:12:02] ABOUT THE RELATIONSHIP FURTHER DETERIORATING BECAUSE OF OUR
[00:12:06] DECISIONS TO PIVOT AWAY?
[00:12:10] >> I THINK OUR DECISIONS ARE
[00:12:12] COMING IN RESPONSE TO THEIR DECISIONS. AS MUCH AS YOU HAVE TO BE
[00:12:15] MINDFUL OF HOW THE UNITED STATES
[00:12:17] WILL REACT AND HOW IN PARTICULAR
[00:12:20] THIS PRESIDENT WILL REACT, IF
[00:12:24] YOU WORK YOURSELF INTO A POSITION LET'S NOT DO ANYTHING
[00:12:28] THAT WILL ANGER THE UNITED STATES PRESIDENT.
[00:12:30] YOU END UP NOT BEING ABLE TO DO MUCH.
[00:12:33] I DO THINK TO GARY'S POINT, IT
[00:12:36] IS AN IMPORTANT POINT. WE CAN SIGN FREE TRADE DEALS.
[00:12:39] WE CAN MAKE AGREEMENTS.
[00:12:43] IF YOU WANT TO DIVERSIFY ALLIANCES AND TRADE, IT IS GOING
[00:12:47] TO TAKE REAL DELIBERATE EFFORT
[00:12:48] OVER A NUMBER OF YEARS.
[00:12:51] I THINK ONE SPOT THAT I WILL BE
[00:12:53] LOOKING FOR IN THIS RESPECT IS
[00:12:56] MARK CARNEY TALKED ABOUT IT IN
[00:12:59] HIS SPEECH, A JOINT RESPONSE TO
[00:13:02] A.I. AND AMERICAN TECHNOLOGY FIRMS.
[00:13:05] CANADA HAS STRUGGLED WITH HOW TO
[00:13:08] REGULATE THIS SECTOR. WORKING WITH EUROPEANS MAYBE
[00:13:12] PRESENTS A CHANCE THAT YOU CAN PRESENT SOME KIND OF UNITED
[00:13:15] FRONT AND DEAL WITH IT.
[00:13:18] THAT'S ONE AREA IN PARTICULAR WHERE I WANT TO SEE WHAT COMES
[00:13:21] OUT THIS. CAN CANADA AND THE EUROPEAN
[00:13:25] UNION WORK TOGETHER IN A
[00:13:26] CONCERTED WAY TO PUSH BACK
[00:13:31] AGAINST TECHNOLOGY FIRMS.
[00:13:35] >> Rosemary: LAST WORD TO YOU
[00:13:43] EMILIE. >> I STILL THINK THAT QUEBEC
[00:13:46] LIKELY TO BE PART OF THE COUNTRY
[00:13:48] WHERE THAT THE WHOLE -- [ INDISCERNIBLE ]
[00:13:51] IT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR PEOPLE WHO MIGHT STILL SEE
[00:13:55] LANGUAGES IN CANADA AS AN
[00:13:57] OBSTACLE TO SEE IT AS AN
[00:14:01] OPPORTUNITY. >> Rosemary: INTERESTING, BECAUSE WE KNOW LANGUAGE WAS AN ISSUE WITH THE UNITED STATES.
[00:14:04] I HAVE TIME FOR ONE LAST THOUGHT
[00:14:07] FLU TOO, GARY.
[00:14:09] GET BIGGEST POINT THAT CARNEY
[00:14:11] REALLY TRYING TO MAKE HERE.
[00:14:17] SOME PEOPLE WILL SAY TAKE THE
[00:14:19] FOOT OFF GAS.
[00:14:24] I THINK HID HIS -- HIS POINT IS.
[00:14:28] 77 MILLION AMERICANS VOTED FOR DONALD TRUMP EACH AT DISASTROUS FIRST TERM.
[00:14:32] AMERICA HAS CHANGED. WE HAVE TO CHANGE. WE HAVE TO MAKE PERMANENT CHANGE
[00:14:36] IN TERMS OUR TRADE RELATIONSHIPS.
[00:14:38] THAT'S GOING TO BE CHALLENGE
[00:14:40] GOING FORWARD. >> Rosemary: DEMOCRATS AREN'T
[00:14:44] SURE WORRIED ABOUT TRADE EITHER.
[00:14:48] NICE TO SEE YOU ALL ON THIS SUNDAY.
[00:14:50] ENJOY THE REST YOUR DAY.
[00:14:56] REPUBLICAN SENATOR SUSAN COLLINS SHARED THIS WARNING FOR CANADA
[00:15:00] ABOUT STRENGTHENING ITS TIES WITH EUROPE.
[00:15:02] >> I DO THINK IT'S UNFORTUNATE
[00:15:05] THAT CANADA IS TURNING TO THE EUROPEAN UNION.
[00:15:09] >> Rosemary: WHAT DOES THIS STRONGER PARTNERSHIP MEAN FOR
[00:15:12] THE CANADA-U.S. TRADE WAR? IS THERE ANY WAY THOSE TWO SIDE
[00:15:15] WILL GET TO THE TABLE TO
[00:15:19] NEGOTIATE. CATHERINE TAI WILL JOIN ME NEXT.
[00:15:22] STICK AROUND FOR THAT.
[00:15:27] >> Now to
[00:18:09] >> Prime Minister Carney: I WANT TO THANK ALL OF YOU.
[00:18:13] ALL YOUR CONSTITUENTS, CANADIANS
[00:18:14] ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
[00:18:17] BECAUSE, WE KNEW AS WE WERE IN THOSE NEGOTIATIONS WHAT THE
[00:18:21] PRIORITIES OF CANADIANS WERE.
[00:18:24] WE KNEW WHAT THE VALUES OF
[00:18:27] CANADIANS ARE.
[00:18:28] IT WASN'T TOUGH TO DRAW RED
[00:18:32] LINES. >> Rosemary: PRIME MINISTER CARNEY THERE SMOKING TO HIS CAUCUS ON FRIDAY AHEAD OF
[00:18:36] PARLIAMENT COME BACK TOMORROW. HE SAID IT WAS THE RIGHT
[00:18:39] DECISION TO STEP AWAY WITH TRADE TALKS.
[00:18:42] AMBASSADOR CATHERINE TAI SERVED AS PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN'S TRADE REPRESENTATIVE.
[00:18:46] I SPOKE TO HER EARLIER THIS MORNING ABOUT THE TRADE WAR AND
[00:18:50] WHAT CANADA CLOSEST PARTNERSHIP WITH EUROPE COULD MEAN FOR TALKS
[00:18:53] WITH THE U.S.
[00:18:56] AMBASSADOR CATHERINE TANIST TO
[00:18:59] SEE YOU AGAIN. I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT CANADA-U.S.
[00:19:03] I WANT TO START BY ASKING YOU ABOUT THIS OFFER THAT CANADA HAS
[00:19:06] RECEIVED TO BECOME AN ASSOCIATE
[00:19:08] MEMBER OF THE E.U. CERTAINLY, THE PRIME MINISTER
[00:19:11] HERE SEEMS INTERESTED IN A
[00:19:14] DEEPER RELATIONSHIP WITH THE E.U. BEYOND JUST TRADE.
[00:19:17] WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THAT?
[00:19:19] WHAT DOES THAT TELL YOU?
[00:19:22] >> WELL, I THINK I CERTAINLY
[00:19:24] UNDERSTAND THE OPTICS OF THIS
[00:19:28] GESTURE. IT SHOWS SYNERGY BETWEEN THE
[00:19:32] EUROPEAN UNION AND CANADA
[00:19:33] ESPECIALLY AT THIS MOMENT IN
[00:19:37] TIME WITH INCREASINGLY TENSE
[00:19:39] RELATIONS WITH THE UNITED STATES.
[00:19:41] FOR EXAMPLE, THE EUROPEAN UNION CERTAINLY UNDERSTANDS AND HAS NO
[00:19:45] PROBLEM WITH CANADA BEING A
[00:19:48] MULTILINGUAL COUNTRY AND SOCIETY.
[00:19:51] I THINK THAT IT MAKES SENSE TO
[00:19:53] TAKE A LOOK AT WHY THE OPTIC
[00:20:00] WORKS NOW. A LOT OF IT ABOUT THE ECONOMIC
[00:20:03] AND TRADE RELATIONSHIP GLOBALLY
[00:20:05] BETWEEN THESE TWO COUNTRIES AND
[00:20:08] THE UNITED STATES. ON THAT, I THINK THAT IT IS
[00:20:12] PRIMARILY ABOUT THE TRADE AND
[00:20:15] ECONOMIC RELATIONSHIP.
[00:20:16] I GUESS FROM MY PERSPECTIVERS I
[00:20:19] WOULD SAY ASSOCIATE MEMBERSHIP IN THE E.U. CARRIS A LOT WITH I.
[00:20:23] LET NOT FORGET THAT THE E.U. AND
[00:20:26] CANADA ALREADY HAVE A TRADE AGREEMENT IN PLACE.
[00:20:29] I THINK THAT AS A TRADE PERSON,
[00:20:33] AND SOMEONE WHO SEEN THE TRADE
[00:20:36] RULE CONTRIBUTION TO ALL RUPTURE
[00:20:42] WE'RE SEEING TODAY. IT WILL BEHOOVE THE EUROPEAN
[00:20:46] UNION AND CANADA TO LOOK AT THEIR TRADE AGREEMENT. LOOK AT ALL THE TOOLS FOR
[00:20:50] REFORMING THEIR RELATIONSHIP
[00:20:51] WITH EACH OTHER AND TO DIVERSIFY
[00:20:55] SUPPLIERS SO THAT THEY HAVE MORE CHOICES THAN JUST CHINA AND TO
[00:20:59] DIVERSIFY CUSTOMERS SO THEY ALSO HAVE MORE CHOICE THAN JUST THE
[00:21:03] UNITED STATES. THAT DIVERSIFICATION WILL BE KEY
[00:21:06] TO ALL COUNTRIES INCLUDING THE
[00:21:08] UNITED STATES FOR A MORE
[00:21:10] PEACEFUL FUTURE FOR ALL OF US. >> Rosemary: THE PRESIDENT
[00:21:13] CALLED THE MATTER LAUGHABLE. I WONDER WHETHER YOU THINK THIS
[00:21:17] WILL GET IN THE WAY OF A
[00:21:21] CANADA-U.S. TRADING RELATIONSHIP SHOULD WE MANAGE TO GET BACK TO
[00:21:23] THE TABLE?
[00:21:26] >> THE PRESIDENT SAYS MANY THINGS.
[00:21:28] HE CONSISTENTLY MAKES LOTS AND LOTS OF WAVES.
[00:21:32] I THINK THAT SOMETIMES THE DRAMA
[00:21:36] IS MEANT FOR UNANNOUNCED
[00:21:38] STRATEGIC NEGOTIATING PURPOSES.
[00:21:40] SOMETIMES THE DRAMA IS FOR
[00:21:42] DRAMATIC PURPOSES TO DRIVE A
[00:21:45] NARRATIVE TO PEPPER NORMALLY
[00:21:50] SOBER TYPES OF POLICY AREAS WITH
[00:21:55] EXCITEMENT, NARRATIVE EXCITEMENT.
[00:21:57] AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE
[00:22:01] LEADERS OUR COUNTRIES ARE
[00:22:02] LOOKING AT A CERTAIN SET OF
[00:22:06] OBJECTIVES AND THE UNITED STATES
[00:22:08] AND CANADA HAVE BEEN THROUGH A LOT BEFORE.
[00:22:12] I REMAIN CONFIDENT THAT THEY
[00:22:13] WILL BE ABLE TO NAVIGATE THIS
[00:22:16] PERIOD OF TIME AS WELL.
[00:22:18] BUT CERTAINLY, RECOGNISE THAT
[00:22:21] THE U.S. GOVERNMENT, THIS
[00:22:23] ADMINISTRATION FROM VERY TOP AND
[00:22:26] THROUGHOUT ARE USING TOOLS AND
[00:22:28] WILLING TO USE RHETORIC THAT
[00:22:31] CROSS A LOT OF NORMATIVE LINES
[00:22:34] THAT OTHER ADMINISTRATIONS OF THE UNITED STATES HAVE NOT BEEN
[00:22:37] WILLING TO CROSS. >> Rosemary: IT'S POSSIBLE THAT THE PRIME MINISTER AND THE
[00:22:40] PRESIDENT RUN INTO EACH OTHER
[00:22:45] THIS WEEK AT THE U.N. GENERAL
[00:22:48] ASSEMBLY THERE'S NO FORMAL TALKS HAPPENING.
[00:22:51] WHAT DO YOU THINK IT WILL TAKE
[00:22:55] TO GET BACK TO THE NEGOTIATING TABLE. DO YOU THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT?
[00:22:58] >> I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR
[00:22:59] THE UNITED STATES AND CANADA TO
[00:23:03] BE ENGAGED. EVEN THROUGH THE VERY TOUGH TIMES.
[00:23:06] I THINK THAT WHETHER OR NOT PRIME MINISTER CARNEY AND
[00:23:10] PRESIDENT TRUMP MEET EACH OTHER OR HAVE SUBSTANTIVE INTERACTIONS
[00:23:13] IN NEW YORK IS A SEPARATE MATTER.
[00:23:17] THAT PROBABLY IS FOR SHOW.
[00:23:20] IF IT'S IMPORTANT TO SIGNALING
[00:23:23] SOMETHING TO THE MARKETS, I'M SURE THAT PRESIDENT TRUMP WILL
[00:23:26] GO OUT OF HIS WAY TO ENSURE THAT
[00:23:29] HE SENDS SIGNALS HE WANTS TO.
[00:23:31] AS A MATTER OF GETTING WORK DONE
[00:23:34] TO STAYING FOCUSED ON THE
[00:23:36] LONG-TERM OBJECTIVES OF THE VERY CLOSE AND NECESSARILY CLOSE
[00:23:40] RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE UNITED
[00:23:42] STATES AND CANADA, I WOULDN'T BE
[00:23:44] SURPRISED IF THERE ARE CONTACTS
[00:23:46] THAT ARE ONGOING AT LOWER LEVELS
[00:23:50] THAT WILL HELP TO MAINTAIN THE
[00:23:52] HEALTH OF THIS RELATIONSHIP WHEN
[00:23:54] THE LARGER FORCES START TO MOVE ON.
[00:23:58] >> Rosemary: IT DOES SEEM THAT MEXICO MIGHT BE CLOSE TO SECURING A DEAL WITH THE UNITED
[00:24:02] STATES. WHAT DO YOU THINK THAT COULD
[00:24:03] MEAN FOR THE FUTURE OF CUSMA OR
[00:24:10] USMCA? >> I THINK THAT THIS FOLLOWS A
[00:24:13] PATTERN, THIS FOLLOWERSES A
[00:24:15] PATTERN THAT WE SAW WITH THE
[00:24:17] RENEGOTIATION OF NAFTA THAT LET
[00:24:20] TO THE CONCLUSION AND
[00:24:23] RATIFICATION CUSMA AND USMCA.
[00:24:29] THE END OF 2018, THE FIRST TRUMP
[00:24:32] ADMINISTRATION LANDED ITS NEGOTIATION WITH MEXICO BEFORE IT WAS ABLE TO LAND A
[00:24:36] NEGOTIATION WITH CANADA. THEN NEGOTIATOR WHO BEEN AROUND
[00:24:39] FOR A LONG TIME SINCE ORIGINAL
[00:24:41] NAFTA NEGOTIATIONS WHO HAVE
[00:24:44] REMINDED US THAT SIMILAR KIND OF BLOWUPS HAVE HAPPENED BETWEEN
[00:24:47] THE U.S. AND CANADA BEFORE
[00:24:52] SOMETHING FINAL LANDED.
[00:24:54] AGAIN, I THINK THAT THIS IS THE NATURE OF THE RELATIONSHIPS THAT
[00:24:58] WE HAVE WITH EACH OTHER AND I
[00:25:00] REMAIN OPEN TO SEEING HOW THIS
[00:25:03] ADMINISTRATION, OURS IS ABLE TO
[00:25:07] SUCCESSFULLY LAND THIS NEGOTIATION AND THIS RELATIONSHIP, THE STAGE OF THE
[00:25:10] RELATIONSHIP WITH CANADA.
[00:25:13] >> Rosemary: WOULD YOU AGREE
[00:25:16] THAT THIS IS PRETTY BAD PACE THAT WE'RE IN?
[00:25:19] NOT ONLY BECAUSE OF THE UNITED
[00:25:20] STATES BUT CANADA HAS RESPONDED
[00:25:24] WITH COUNTERTARIFFS. THE PRESIDENT RESPONDED AGAIN.
[00:25:27] IT DOES SEEM TO HAVE DETERIORATED TO PERHAPS WE
[00:25:30] COULDN'T HAVE IMAGINED? >> I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH YOU.
[00:25:34] I THINK ANYBODY WITH EYES AND EARS AND SOME MEMORY WOULD AGREE
[00:25:38] WITH YOU.
[00:25:39] AGAIN, I THINK WHAT I WOULD LIKE
[00:25:42] TO CAUTION IS HEAT AND SPICE ARE
[00:25:45] A PART OF INTERNATIONAL
[00:25:48] RELATIONS EVEN BETWEEN CLOSE NEIGHBOURS. I WANT FOR THE PEOPLE IN CANADA
[00:25:52] AS WELL AS THE PEOPLE IN THE UNITED STATES TO KEEP OUR EYES
[00:25:55] TRAINED ON THE BALL.
[00:25:58] THERE'S.A LOT OF RETALIATORY,
[00:26:00] TARIFF ACTIONS HAPPENING NOW. THAT'S ONLY ABOUT GOODS TRADE.
[00:26:04] I THINK THAT PEOPLE IN GOVERNMENTS IN BOTH OF OUR
[00:26:07] COUNTRIES NEED TO BE FOCUSED ON
[00:26:08] WHAT IS HAPPENING IN THE
[00:26:12] TECHNOLOGY AREA.
[00:26:14] THE MOTIONS OF DOMINANCE AND
[00:26:18] BULLYING AROUND GOODS ARE BEING
[00:26:20] REPLICATED IN WAYS THAT I DON'T THINK WE ARE PAYING ENOUGH
[00:26:24] ATTENTION TO WHEN IT COMES TO
[00:26:26] TECHNOLOGY, DATA AND A.I.
[00:26:30] >> Rosemary: AMBASSADOR KATHERINE TAI, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME TODAY.
[00:26:37] ♪ [upbe
[00:30:07] >> Rosemary: THESE ARE PICTURES OF MOSTLY CLOUDY. FROM THERE, THE PRIME MINISTER
[00:30:10] IS HEADING BACK HERE TO OTTAWA
[00:30:12] TO MEET WITH THE NORWEGIAN PRIME MINISTER AND ON TO NEW YORK LATER.
[00:30:16] HAVE A GOOD WEEK.