CBCNEWS — Live CBC Newsroom With Marianne Dimain 20261004 120000 UTC 443 transcript segments Original Broadcaster Captioning (Enhanced) Data courtesy of The GDELT Project (https://www.gdeltproject.org/), from the Internet Archive TV News Archive. Machine transcription. Treat it as a searchable index of what was broadcast, not a verbatim quotation record. [00:00:23] I'm Adrian Arceneaux, chief correspondent for CBC News. Here's what's making news right now. [00:00:31] >> Deana: SHELL OWE. I'M ASSUME -- HELLO. [00:00:34] I'M ASSUME -- HELLO. I'M DEANA SUMANAC-JOHNSON. [00:00:36] I'M DEANA SUMANAC-JOHNSON. WELCOME INSIDE THE CBC NEWS [00:00:40] WELCOME INSIDE THE CBC NEWS ROOM. [00:00:42] ROOM. FOUR CANADIANS ARE ON BOARD A [00:00:45] FOUR CANADIANS ARE ON BOARD A PASSENGER FLIGHT EN ROUTE TO [00:00:52] PASSENGER FLIGHT EN ROUTE TO BOSTON. [00:00:54] BOSTON. IT NOW AAPPEARS THAT THE [00:00:57] IT NOW AAPPEARS THAT THE U.S. -- APPEARS THAT THE U.S. [00:01:01] U.S. -- APPEARS THAT THE U.S. COAST GUARD IS NARROWING IN ON [00:01:02] COAST GUARD IS NARROWING IN ON A LOCATION. [00:01:06] A LOCATION. >> Reporter: THERE ARE SEVERAL >> Reporter: THERE ARE SEVERAL TEAMS THAT HAVE BEEN SEARCHING [00:01:09] TEAMS THAT HAVE BEEN SEARCHING THE WATER AND IN THE AIR, AS [00:01:13] THE WATER AND IN THE AIR, AS WELL, OFF THE COAST OF WELL, OFF THE COAST OF NANTUCKET. [00:01:17] NANTUCKET. YOU CAN SEE THESE BACK AND YOU CAN SEE THESE BACK AND FORTH LONG STRIPS THAT ARE [00:01:20] FORTH LONG STRIPS THAT ARE TAKING PLACE AND THEN IT [00:01:23] TAKING PLACE AND THEN IT APPEARS TO ALMOST STOP ABRUPTLY [00:01:26] APPEARS TO ALMOST STOP ABRUPTLY AND THEN TO TURN INTO A [00:01:31] AND THEN TO TURN INTO A CIRCLING MOTION OVER AN AREA. [00:01:38] CIRCLING MOTION OVER AN AREA. BECAUSE THE AREA HAS GOTTEN BECAUSE THE AREA HAS GOTTEN SMALLER IT COULD MEAN THAT [00:01:41] SMALLER IT COULD MEAN THAT THEY'VE FOUND SOMETHING OF THEY'VE FOUND SOMETHING OF INTEREST OR IT COULD MEAN THAT [00:01:45] INTEREST OR IT COULD MEAN THAT THEY'RE FOLLOWING OF DRIFT OF THEY'RE FOLLOWING OF DRIFT OF WHERE THAT AIRCRAFT MIGHT BE. [00:01:48] WHERE THAT AIRCRAFT MIGHT BE. NOW WE'RE TOLD THAT THE NOW WE'RE TOLD THAT THE CONDITIONS ARE GOOD SO THAT'S [00:01:51] CONDITIONS ARE GOOD SO THAT'S HELPED THEM CONTINUE THIS HELPED THEM CONTINUE THIS SEARCH THROUGHOUT THE DAY AND SEARCH THROUGHOUT THE DAY AND THROUGHOUT THE EVENING, AS [00:01:55] THROUGHOUT THE EVENING, AS WELL, IF NEEDED. WELL, IF NEEDED. NOW IN TERMS OF THIS JET THAT'S [00:01:59] NOW IN TERMS OF THIS JET THAT'S GONE MISSING, WHAT WE KNOW [00:02:02] GONE MISSING, WHAT WE KNOW ABOUT THAT IS THAT IT LEFT ABOUT THAT IS THAT IT LEFT BERMUDA, WAS HEADING TO BOSTON [00:02:06] BERMUDA, WAS HEADING TO BOSTON AROUND 1:30, 2:00 THIS MORNING, [00:02:11] AROUND 1:30, 2:00 THIS MORNING, IT LOST CONTACT. IT LOST CONTACT. IF YOU LOOK AT WEBSITE TRACKING [00:02:14] IF YOU LOOK AT WEBSITE TRACKING IT SHOWS THAT THE PLANE WAS [00:02:16] IT SHOWS THAT THE PLANE WAS FLYING AROUND 24,000 FEET AND [00:02:19] FLYING AROUND 24,000 FEET AND THEN AROUND 1:00 THIS MORNING [00:02:21] THEN AROUND 1:00 THIS MORNING DROPPED TO AROUND 11,000 FEET. [00:02:24] DROPPED TO AROUND 11,000 FEET. WE SPOKE TO AN AVIATION EXPERT. WE SPOKE TO AN AVIATION EXPERT. TAKE A LISTEN. [00:02:27] TAKE A LISTEN. >> THEY'RE LOOKING FOR EITHER A [00:02:32] >WERE TOLD ON BOARD THERE WEREA WSIX PEOPLE, FOUR CANADIANS. [00:02:38] SIX PEOPLE, FOUR CANADIANS. WE HAVE SEEN A NUMBER OF WE HAVE SEEN A NUMBER OF VEHICLES PULLING INTO THEIR [00:02:41] VEHICLES PULLING INTO THEIR PARKING LOT THROUGHOUT THE DAY PARKING LOT THROUGHOUT THE DAY BUT LOST I TALKED TO THEM THEY [00:02:44] BUT LOST I TALKED TO THEM THEY SAID THAT THEY WERE ALSO STILL SAID THAT THEY WERE ALSO STILL WAITING FOR AN UPDATE ON THE [00:02:47] WAITING FOR AN UPDATE ON THE SITUATION AND VERY MUCH HOPING SITUATION AND VERY MUCH HOPING THAT EVERYONE WOULD BE FOUND [00:02:52] THANK YOU SO MUCH. THAT IS THE CBC'S SHEEHAN THAT IS THE CBC'S SHEEHAN DESJARDINS IN HAMILTON. [00:02:56] DESJARDINS IN HAMILTON. IN JUST OVER TWO WEEKS, IN JUST OVER TWO WEEKS, ALBERTANS WILL VOTE ON WHETHER [00:02:59] ALBERTANS WILL VOTE ON WHETHER TO REMAIN PART OF CANADA OR [00:03:01] TO REMAIN PART OF CANADA OR TRIGGER A BINDING REFERENDUM ON [00:03:04] TRIGGER A BINDING REFERENDUM ON LEAVING THE COUNTRY. LEAVING THE COUNTRY. AND CBC NEWS LEARNED THE FEDERAL [00:03:07] AND CBC NEWS LEARNED THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS PREPARING FOR BOTH GOVERNMENT IS PREPARING FOR BOTH OUTCOMES AND IS CRUNCHING THE [00:03:10] OUTCOMES AND IS CRUNCHING THE NUMBERS ON THE CONSEQUENCES. [00:03:12] NUMBERS ON THE CONSEQUENCES. THE CBC'S STEPHANIE CRAM JOINS [00:03:15] THE CBC'S STEPHANIE CRAM JOINS US FROM EDMONTON. US FROM EDMONTON. SO THERE ARE FEDERAL DOCUMENTS [00:03:19] SO THERE ARE FEDERAL DOCUMENTS THAT CBC HAS ACQUIRED. THAT CBC HAS ACQUIRED. WHAT DO THEY TELL US? [00:03:22] WHAT DO THEY TELL US? >> NOW, THE MOSTLY REDACTED >> NOW, THE MOSTLY REDACTED DOCUMENTS ARE DATED BACK TO JUNE [00:03:26] DOCUMENTS ARE DATED BACK TO JUNE 2026. 2026. SO IT SHOWS THAT THE FEDERAL SO IT SHOWS THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS BEEN QUIETLY [00:03:30] GOVERNMENT HAS BEEN QUIETLY LOOKING AT THE IMPACTS OF THE LOOKING AT THE IMPACTS OF THE REFERENDUM. [00:03:32] REFERENDUM. IT SAYS THAT CANADA COULD SEE AN IT SAYS THAT CANADA COULD SEE AN $18 BILLION FISCAL SHOCK IF [00:03:36] $18 BILLION FISCAL SHOCK IF ALBERTA DECIDES TO LEAVE THE ALBERTA DECIDES TO LEAVE THE COUNTRY. COUNTRY. NOW, AN INTERESTING POINT TO [00:03:40] NOW, AN INTERESTING POINT TO NOTE IS THAT THE DOCUMENT SAYS [00:03:42] NOTE IS THAT THE DOCUMENT SAYS THAT REGARDLESS OF THE OUTCOME [00:03:45] OF THE REFERENDUM, THERE COULD BE AN IMPACT ON THE ECONOMY. [00:03:47] BE AN IMPACT ON THE ECONOMY. IT LOOKED AT BOTH THE 1995 [00:03:50] IT LOOKED AT BOTH THE 1995 QUEBEC REFERENDUM AND THE 2014 [00:03:53] QUEBEC REFERENDUM AND THE 2014 SCOTTISH REFERENDUM. SCOTTISH REFERENDUM. AND IN BOTH OF THOSE CASES, NO [00:03:56] AND IN BOTH OF THOSE CASES, NO VOTE WAS SUCCESSFUL, BUT DESPITE VOTE WAS SUCCESSFUL, BUT DESPITE THAT THERE WAS A HIT TO THE [00:03:59] THAT THERE WAS A HIT TO THE ECONOMIES. ECONOMIES. HERE IN ALBERTA, MOST OF THE [00:04:02] HERE IN ALBERTA, MOST OF THE POLLS SHOW THAT ALBERTANS WANT POLLS SHOW THAT ALBERTANS WANT ALBERTA TO STAY IN CANADA, BUT [00:04:06] ALBERTA TO STAY IN CANADA, BUT IT SAYS THAT THERE MIGHT STILL IT SAYS THAT THERE MIGHT STILL BE LINGERING IMPACTS ON THE [00:04:10] BE LINGERING IMPACTS ON THE ECONOMY. [00:04:12] ECONOMY. NOW ONE OF THE IMPACTS ARE THE NOW ONE OF THE IMPACTS ARE THE LOSS OF BUSINESSES. [00:04:15] LOSS OF BUSINESSES. THE REPORT SAYS IN THE DECADES THE REPORT SAYS IN THE DECADES LEADING UP TO THE 1995 QUEBEC [00:04:18] LEADING UP TO THE 1995 QUEBEC VOTE, 263 CORPORATE HEAD OFFICES [00:04:21] VOTE, 263 CORPORATE HEAD OFFICES LEFT THE PROVINCE, INCLUDING SUN [00:04:23] LEFT THE PROVINCE, INCLUDING SUN LIFE INSURANCE, WHICH WAS LIFE INSURANCE, WHICH WAS ORIGINALLY LOCATED IN MONTREAL. [00:04:27] ORIGINALLY LOCATED IN MONTREAL. THE REPORT ALSO HIGHLIGHTS A THE REPORT ALSO HIGHLIGHTS A STUDY DONE BY THE CALGARY [00:04:30] STUDY DONE BY THE CALGARY CHAMBER OF COMMERCE WHICH SHOWS CHAMBER OF COMMERCE WHICH SHOWS OVER 50% OF THE BUSINESSES IN [00:04:34] OVER 50% OF THE BUSINESSES IN THAT CITY HAVE ALREADY SEEN A THAT CITY HAVE ALREADY SEEN A HIT TO THEIR BOTTOM LINE. [00:04:38] HIT TO THEIR BOTTOM LINE. >> Eli: INTERESTING ALREADY >> Eli: INTERESTING ALREADY SEEING A CHANGE. SEEING A CHANGE. THAT IS QUITE SOMETHING. [00:04:42] THAT IS QUITE SOMETHING. NOW, I'M NOT ENTIRELY SURPRISED NOW, I'M NOT ENTIRELY SURPRISED TO HEAR ABOUT THE POTENTIAL LOSS [00:04:45] TO HEAR ABOUT THE POTENTIAL LOSS OF BUSINESS, BUT LET'S ALSO TALK OF BUSINESS, BUT LET'S ALSO TALK ABOUT PEOPLE POWER. [00:04:48] ABOUT PEOPLE POWER. DID THE REPORT SAY ANYTHING DID THE REPORT SAY ANYTHING ABOUT MIGRATION? [00:04:51] ABOUT MIGRATION? >> YEAH, YOU MIGHT REMEMBER BACK [00:04:54] >> YEAH, YOU MIGHT REMEMBER BACK IN 2021, ALBERTA SAW 17,000 [00:05:01] IN 2021, ALBERTA SAW 17,000 WORKERS WITH POST-SECONDARY WORKERS WITH POST-SECONDARY DEGREES MOVE TO THE PROVINCE. [00:05:04] DEGREES MOVE TO THE PROVINCE. SO VERY HIGHLY SKILLED SO VERY HIGHLY SKILLED INDIVIDUALS. [00:05:06] INDIVIDUALS. THE REPORT HIGHLIGHTS THE WORRY THE REPORT HIGHLIGHTS THE WORRY IS IF ALBERTA DECIDES TO LEAVE [00:05:10] IS IF ALBERTA DECIDES TO LEAVE CANADA, THAT THOSE WORKERS MIGHT CANADA, THAT THOSE WORKERS MIGHT BE COMPELLED TO LEAVE THE [00:05:14] BE COMPELLED TO LEAVE THE PROVINCE AS WELL. PROVINCE AS WELL. NOW, IT SHOULD BE REMINDED THE [00:05:17] NOW, IT SHOULD BE REMINDED THE VOTE IN OCTOBER IS NOT A BINDING [00:05:20] VOTE IN OCTOBER IS NOT A BINDING VOTE TO LEAVE THE COUNTRY. VOTE TO LEAVE THE COUNTRY. INSTEAD, ALBERTANS WILL BE ASKED [00:05:24] INSTEAD, ALBERTANS WILL BE ASKED WHETHER THEY SHOULD STAY IN WHETHER THEY SHOULD STAY IN CANADA OR HOLD A SECOND CANADA OR HOLD A SECOND REFERENDUM FOR THE PROVINCE TO [00:05:28] REFERENDUM FOR THE PROVINCE TO LEAVE THE COUNTRY. LEAVE THE COUNTRY. SO IT'S HARD TO SAY THE IMPACTS SO IT'S HARD TO SAY THE IMPACTS THAT WE WILL SEE ON BUSINESS AND [00:05:32] THAT WE WILL SEE ON BUSINESS AND PEOPLE. PEOPLE. WE MIGHT HAVE TO SEE THAT IN THE WE MIGHT HAVE TO SEE THAT IN THE COMING YEARS. [00:05:35] COMING YEARS. >> Eli: GREAT TO HEAR THIS [00:05:38] PERSPECTIVE NONETHELESS. THAT IS CBC'S STEPHANIE CRAM IN THAT IS CBC'S STEPHANIE CRAM IN EDMONTON. [00:05:41] EDMONTON. >>> AND VOTERS IN QUEBEC ARE >>> AND VOTERS IN QUEBEC ARE GOING TO THE POLLS ON MONDAY TO [00:05:45] GOING TO THE POLLS ON MONDAY TO CHOOSE THE NEXT PROVINCIAL CHOOSE THE NEXT PROVINCIAL GOVERNMENT. [00:05:48] GOVERNMENT. IN THESE FINAL DAYS AND HOURS, [00:05:50] IN THESE FINAL DAYS AND HOURS, POLLS ARE POINTING TO A POSSIBLE POLLS ARE POINTING TO A POSSIBLE PARTI QUÉBÉCOIS VICTORY. [00:05:54] PARTI QUÉBÉCOIS VICTORY. THE CBC'S ALEXANDER SILBERMAN IN [00:06:00] THE CBC'S ALEXANDER SILBERMAN IN QUEBEC WITH THE LATEST. [00:06:08] QUEBEC WITH THE LATEST. >> Reporter: IT SURE IS A >> Reporter: IT SURE IS A CROWDED RACE, ELI. CROWDED RACE, ELI. WHAT WE'RE SEEING IS THERE IS A [00:06:12] WHAT WE'RE SEEING IS THERE IS A STRONG DESIRE FROM QUEBECERS FOR STRONG DESIRE FROM QUEBECERS FOR CHANGE. CHANGE. THE PARTI QUÉBÉCOIS HAS BEEN [00:06:16] THE PARTI QUÉBÉCOIS HAS BEEN ABLE TO CAPTURE A LARGE SEGMENT ABLE TO CAPTURE A LARGE SEGMENT OF THAT, THEY'VE BEEN POLLING [00:06:19] OF THAT, THEY'VE BEEN POLLING AROUND 30% THROUGHOUT THIS AROUND 30% THROUGHOUT THIS CAMPAIGN AND THEIR LEADER PAUL [00:06:22] CAMPAIGN AND THEIR LEADER PAUL ST-PIERRE PLAMONDON CAMPAIGNING ST-PIERRE PLAMONDON CAMPAIGNING FOR FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY, [00:06:25] FOR FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY, PROMISING TO BALANCE THE BUDGET PROMISING TO BALANCE THE BUDGET AND PROTECTION OF THE FRENCH [00:06:28] AND PROTECTION OF THE FRENCH LANGUAGE AND ALSO PROMISING TO LANGUAGE AND ALSO PROMISING TO HOLD A THIRD REFERENDUM ON [00:06:30] HOLD A THIRD REFERENDUM ON QUEBEC INDEPENDENCE WITHIN HIS QUEBEC INDEPENDENCE WITHIN HIS FIRST MANDATE, BUT AGAIN SAYING [00:06:33] FIRST MANDATE, BUT AGAIN SAYING HE WON'T DO THAT UNTIL U.S. HE WON'T DO THAT UNTIL U.S. PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP IS OUT OF PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP IS OUT OF OFFICE. [00:06:37] OFFICE. THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS POLITICALLY UNPOPULAR FOR MANY POLITICALLY UNPOPULAR FOR MANY QUEBECERS. [00:06:41] QUEBECERS. A POLL SHOWS AROUND 70% OF A POLL SHOWS AROUND 70% OF QUEBECERS ARE OPPOSED TO ANOTHER [00:06:44] QUEBECERS ARE OPPOSED TO ANOTHER REFERENDUM ON INDEPENDENCE, BUT REFERENDUM ON INDEPENDENCE, BUT MANY ARE APPEARING TO SIMPLY PUT [00:06:47] MANY ARE APPEARING TO SIMPLY PUT THAT ASIDE OUT OF THEIR DESIRE FOR CHANGE. YOU HAVE THE COALITION AVENIR [00:06:51] YOU HAVE THE COALITION AVENIR QUÉBEC, THE C.A.Q., THEY FORMED QUÉBEC, THE C.A.Q., THEY FORMED GOVERNMENT FOR THE PAST EIGHT [00:06:54] GOVERNMENT FOR THE PAST EIGHT YEARS AND TOWARDS THE END OF YEARS AND TOWARDS THE END OF PREMIER FRANÇOIS LEGAULT'S [00:06:57] PREMIER FRANÇOIS LEGAULT'S TENURE, THE PARTY BECAME DEEPLY TENURE, THE PARTY BECAME DEEPLY UNPOPULAR OVER FINANCIAL [00:07:00] UNPOPULAR OVER FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT, UNPOPULAR SPENDING MANAGEMENT, UNPOPULAR SPENDING AND ALSO UNPOPULAR HEALTH CARE [00:07:03] AND ALSO UNPOPULAR HEALTH CARE REFORM AND THE CURRENT LEADER [00:07:05] REFORM AND THE CURRENT LEADER CHRISTINE FRÉCHETTE, HAS REALLY [00:07:10] CHRISTINE FRÉCHETTE, HAS REALLY STRUGGLED TO SEPARATE HERSELF STRUGGLED TO SEPARATE HERSELF FROM LEGAULT. FROM LEGAULT. FACED A LOT OF CRITICISM. [00:07:14] FACED A LOT OF CRITICISM. WE SAW THE PARTY TRY AND REBRAND ITSELF. THE C.A.Q. LOGO ISN'T ON ITS [00:07:17] THE C.A.Q. LOGO ISN'T ON ITS CAMPAIGN SIGNS, FOR INSTANCE, [00:07:19] CAMPAIGN SIGNS, FOR INSTANCE, AND THEY'VE ALSO TRIED -- [00:07:21] AND THEY'VE ALSO TRIED -- FRÉCHETTE HAS TRIED TO POSITION FRÉCHETTE HAS TRIED TO POSITION HERSELF AS A SAFE BET AMID THE [00:07:24] HERSELF AS A SAFE BET AMID THE U.S. TRADE WAR, BUT THAT'S NOT A U.S. TRADE WAR, BUT THAT'S NOT A MESSAGE THAT HAS REALLY [00:07:28] MESSAGE THAT HAS REALLY RESONATED WITH VOTERS AND OVER RESONATED WITH VOTERS AND OVER THE PAST FEW DAYS FINAL STRETCH [00:07:31] THE PAST FEW DAYS FINAL STRETCH OF THIS CAMPAIGN, WE'VE SEEN OF THIS CAMPAIGN, WE'VE SEEN SOME OF THAT C.A.Q. SUPPORT [00:07:34] SOME OF THAT C.A.Q. SUPPORT START TO COLLAPSE. START TO COLLAPSE. ALSO IN THE MIX, YOU HAVE THE [00:07:37] ALSO IN THE MIX, YOU HAVE THE QUEBEC LIBERAL PARTY. [00:07:41] QUEBEC LIBERAL PARTY. THEY'VE TRIED AS WELL TO PLAY THEY'VE TRIED AS WELL TO PLAY INTO THE U.S. TRADE WAR AND TELL [00:07:44] INTO THE U.S. TRADE WAR AND TELL VOTERS THEY'RE THE ONLY TRUE VOTERS THEY'RE THE ONLY TRUE FEDERALIST CHOICE, BUT THEY'VE [00:07:47] FEDERALIST CHOICE, BUT THEY'VE STRUGGLED TO WIN OVER STRUGGLED TO WIN OVER FRANCOPHONE VOTERS, PARTICULARLY [00:07:50] FRANCOPHONE VOTERS, PARTICULARLY OUTSIDE OF MONTREAL AND THEN YOU [00:07:52] OUTSIDE OF MONTREAL AND THEN YOU HAVE THE TWO SMALLER PARTIES, [00:07:55] THE CONSERVATIVE PARTY COMPETITIVE AROUND QUÉBEC CITY COMPETITIVE AROUND QUÉBEC CITY AND LEFT-LEANING QUÉBEC AND LEFT-LEANING QUÉBEC SOLIDAIRE. [00:07:58] SOLIDAIRE. BOTH OF THOSE TRYING TO APPEAL BOTH OF THOSE TRYING TO APPEAL TO VOTERS SAYING THAT THEY HOPE [00:08:02] TO VOTERS SAYING THAT THEY HOPE TO WIN THE BALANCE TO WIN THE BALANCE OF POWER IF THIS IS A MINORITY OF POWER IF THIS IS A MINORITY GOVERNMENT. [00:08:06] GOVERNMENT. >> Eli: ALEX, THIS IS A FINAL >> Eli: ALEX, THIS IS A FINAL WEEKEND BLITZ WHERE YOU WILL SEE [00:08:09] WEEKEND BLITZ WHERE YOU WILL SEE THE LEADERS RUNNING EVERYWHERE THE LEADERS RUNNING EVERYWHERE TRYING TO REACH AS MANY AS TRYING TO REACH AS MANY AS POSSIBLE. [00:08:12] POSSIBLE. IT CAN BE INTERESTING WHERE THEY IT CAN BE INTERESTING WHERE THEY CHOOSE TO GO AND NOT GO. [00:08:16] CHOOSE TO GO AND NOT GO. SO WHAT KIND OF APPROACH ARE YOU SO WHAT KIND OF APPROACH ARE YOU SEEING FROM THE LEADERS RIGHT SEEING FROM THE LEADERS RIGHT NOW? [00:08:20] NOW? >> YEAH, THERE IS CERTAINLY A >> YEAH, THERE IS CERTAINLY A LOT WE CAN READ INTO WHERE THE [00:08:23] LOT WE CAN READ INTO WHERE THE LEADERS ARE GOING. LEADERS ARE GOING. WE'RE SEEING THE P.Q. REALLY [00:08:26] WE'RE SEEING THE P.Q. REALLY FOCUS ON THIS ALL-OUT BLITZ FOCUS ON THIS ALL-OUT BLITZ CRISSCROSSING THE PROVINCE TO [00:08:29] CRISSCROSSING THE PROVINCE TO TRY AND WIN A MAJORITY. TRY AND WIN A MAJORITY. THEY'VE ONLY POLLED WONDER [00:08:31] THEY'VE ONLY POLLED WONDER AROUND 30% BUT EVEN WITH THAT [00:08:36] AROUND 30% BUT EVEN WITH THAT PORTION, THEY COULD STILL FORM A [00:08:38] PORTION, THEY COULD STILL FORM A MAJORITY, GIVEN HOW DIVIDED THE MAJORITY, GIVEN HOW DIVIDED THE ELECTORATE IS. [00:08:42] ELECTORATE IS. IF THEY DO, IT WOULD BE THE [00:08:45] IF THEY DO, IT WOULD BE THE LOWEST SUPPORT FOR A CAMPAIGN LOWEST SUPPORT FOR A CAMPAIGN THAT [00:10:48] I'M MARIANNE DIMAIN. THIS IS CBC NEWS NETWORK. [00:10:51] THIS IS CBC NEWS NETWORK. NEW DETAILS ARE EMERGING THIS NEW DETAILS ARE EMERGING THIS MORNING ON THE FlyDubai FLIGHT [00:10:54] MORNING ON THE FlyDubai FLIGHT PULLED BACK FROM THE BRINK OF PULLED BACK FROM THE BRINK OF DISASTER ON WEDNESDAY. [00:10:57] DISASTER ON WEDNESDAY. THE AIRCRAFT WAS CARRYING 182 [00:11:00] THE AIRCRAFT WAS CARRYING 182 PEOPLE WHO DUBAI TO TEL AVIV [00:11:04] PEOPLE WHO DUBAI TO TEL AVIV WHEN THE CO-PILOT ALLEGEDLY [00:11:07] WHEN THE CO-PILOT ALLEGEDLY STABBED THE CAPTAIN IN THE [00:11:09] STABBED THE CAPTAIN IN THE COCKPIT SENDING THE PLANE INTO A [00:11:15] COCKPIT SENDING THE PLANE INTO A DECLINE. DECLINE. THE CBC'S JULIA CHAPMAN IS THE CBC'S JULIA CHAPMAN IS TRACKING THE LATEST FOR US FROM [00:11:18] TRACKING THE LATEST FOR US FROM LONDON. LONDON. JULIA, WE'RE LEARNING MORE ABOUT JULIA, WE'RE LEARNING MORE ABOUT THE CO-PILOT. [00:11:22] THE CO-PILOT. WHAT ARE WE LEARNING TODAY? WHAT ARE WE LEARNING TODAY? >> Julia: THIS INFORMATION IS [00:11:25] >> Julia: THIS INFORMATION IS COMING FROM THE AUTHORITIES IN COMING FROM THE AUTHORITIES IN THE U.A.E., THEY'RE THE ONES [00:11:28] THE U.A.E., THEY'RE THE ONES LEADING THIS INVESTIGATION AND LEADING THIS INVESTIGATION AND IT'S THE FIRST TIME THAT THEY'VE [00:11:31] IT'S THE FIRST TIME THAT THEY'VE USED THE WORD "TERRORISM" IN USED THE WORD "TERRORISM" IN RELATION TO THIS INCIDENT. [00:11:34] RELATION TO THIS INCIDENT. ACCORDING TO REUTERS AND THE ACCORDING TO REUTERS AND THE "ASSOCIATED PRESS", THE U.A.E.'S [00:11:38] "ASSOCIATED PRESS", THE U.A.E.'S PROSECUTOR GENERAL SAID THAT THE PROSECUTOR GENERAL SAID THAT THE CO-PILOT TRIED TO TAKE CONTROL [00:11:41] CO-PILOT TRIED TO TAKE CONTROL OF THE PLANE AND CARRY OUT A OF THE PLANE AND CARRY OUT A TERRORIST ATTACK. [00:11:44] TERRORIST ATTACK. OF COURSE, SINCE THEN WE'VE OF COURSE, SINCE THEN WE'VE HEARD THE INCREDIBLE STORIES AND [00:11:48] HEARD THE INCREDIBLE STORIES AND SEEN FOOTAGE SHOWING HOW SEEN FOOTAGE SHOWING HOW PASSENGERS STEPPED UP BRAVELY TO [00:11:51] PASSENGERS STEPPED UP BRAVELY TO SUBDUE THE ATTACKER. SUBDUE THE ATTACKER. INVESTIGATORS ARE STILL COMBING [00:11:54] INVESTIGATORS ARE STILL COMBING THROUGH THE EVIDENCE. THROUGH THE EVIDENCE. THEY'RE WORKING TO ESTABLISH A THEY'RE WORKING TO ESTABLISH A MOTIVE. [00:11:58] MOTIVE. THEY'VE NOT GIVEN ANY DETAILS ON THEY'VE NOT GIVEN ANY DETAILS ON THAT FRONT. THAT FRONT. THE U.A.E. HASN'T NAMED THE [00:12:02] THE U.A.E. HASN'T NAMED THE SUSPECT YET, BUT MULTIPLE MEDIA [00:12:05] SUSPECT YET, BUT MULTIPLE MEDIA OUTLETS HAVE, THEY SAY HE IS [00:12:08] OUTLETS HAVE, THEY SAY HE IS HAMAM al-HAMMAMI, A NATIONAL OF HAMAM al-HAMMAMI, A NATIONAL OF OMAN. [00:12:11] OMAN. THE "ASSOCIATED PRESS" REPORTED THE "ASSOCIATED PRESS" REPORTED THAT HE PREVIOUSLY HAD FLOWN FOR [00:12:15] THAT HE PREVIOUSLY HAD FLOWN FOR OMAN AIR BUT HAD BEEN REMOVED OMAN AIR BUT HAD BEEN REMOVED FROM DUTY BECAUSE OF HIS [00:12:18] FROM DUTY BECAUSE OF HIS EXTREMIST VIEWS. EXTREMIST VIEWS. WE ASKED THAT AIRLINE FOR [00:12:21] WE ASKED THAT AIRLINE FOR COMMENT. COMMENT. ISRAELI PRIME MINISTER BENJAMIN ISRAELI PRIME MINISTER BENJAMIN NETANYAHU HAD ALREADY PUT THIS [00:12:26] NETANYAHU HAD ALREADY PUT THIS INCIDENT DO YOU TO TERRORISM. INCIDENT DO YOU TO TERRORISM. HE'S VOWED TO INFLICT A HEAVY [00:12:29] HE'S VOWED TO INFLICT A HEAVY PRICE ON ANYONE THAT ORDERED THE PRICE ON ANYONE THAT ORDERED THE ATTACK, BUT THERE ARE QUESTIONS [00:12:31] ATTACK, BUT THERE ARE QUESTIONS FOR FlyDubai, GIVEN THE [00:12:33] FOR FlyDubai, GIVEN THE CO-PILOT'S REPORTED HISTORY AND [00:12:36] CO-PILOT'S REPORTED HISTORY AND HIS POSSIBLE OMANI CITIZENSHIP. [00:12:38] HIS POSSIBLE OMANI CITIZENSHIP. ISRAEL DOESN'T ALLOW PILOTS INTO ISRAEL DOESN'T ALLOW PILOTS INTO ITS AIRSPACE IF THEY ARE [00:12:42] ITS AIRSPACE IF THEY ARE NATIONALS OF COUNTRIES THAT [00:12:44] NATIONALS OF COUNTRIES THAT DON'T HAVE DIPLOMATIC RELATIONS [00:12:47] DON'T HAVE DIPLOMATIC RELATIONS WITH ISRAEL, SO THAT INCLUDES WITH ISRAEL, SO THAT INCLUDES OMAN. [00:12:50] OMAN. THE PILOT-VETTING PROCESS IS THE PILOT-VETTING PROCESS IS UNDER HUGE SCRUTINY NOW, UNDER HUGE SCRUTINY NOW, MARIANNE. [00:12:54] MARIANNE. >> Marianne: WHAT ARE WE >> Marianne: WHAT ARE WE LEARNING ABOUT THE ALLEGED [00:12:56] LEARNING ABOUT THE ALLEGED WEAPON USED IN THIS ATTACK? WEAPON USED IN THIS ATTACK? >> Julia: MORE DETAILS ON THAT [00:12:59] >> Julia: MORE DETAILS ON THAT TOO FROM THE COUNTRY'S TOO FROM THE COUNTRY'S PROSECUTOR GENERAL WHO SAID THE PROSECUTOR GENERAL WHO SAID THE CO-PILOT USED A CRASH AXE TO [00:13:03] CO-PILOT USED A CRASH AXE TO ATTACK THE CAPTAIN. ATTACK THE CAPTAIN. CRASH AXES ARE FOUND IN COCKPITS [00:13:07] CRASH AXES ARE FOUND IN COCKPITS OF AIRPLANES. OF AIRPLANES. THEY'RE THERE FOR EMERGENCIES SO [00:13:10] THEY'RE THERE FOR EMERGENCIES SO IF A MARINE WERE TO CRASH AND IF A MARINE WERE TO CRASH AND THE DOORS OR THE WINDOWS WERE [00:13:14] THE DOORS OR THE WINDOWS WERE STUCK, THEY COULD BE USED BY [00:13:15] STUCK, THEY COULD BE USED BY PILOTS TO BREAK DOWN DOORS AND [00:13:18] PILOTS TO BREAK DOWN DOORS AND HELP THEM ESCAPE, BUT GIVEN WHAT HELP THEM ESCAPE, BUT GIVEN WHAT HAPPENED ON THIS FLIGHT, [00:13:21] HAPPENED ON THIS FLIGHT, AVIATION EXPERTS ARE SAYING AVIATION EXPERTS ARE SAYING CRASH AXING MAY BE MORE [00:13:24] CRASH AXING MAY BE MORE DANGEROUS THAN THEY ARE HELPFUL. DANGEROUS THAN THEY ARE HELPFUL. THAT'S ONE AREA OF AIRLINE [00:13:27] THAT'S ONE AREA OF AIRLINE SAFETY THAT COULD BE REVIEWED. SAFETY THAT COULD BE REVIEWED. THE OTHER OF COURSE IS WHETHER [00:13:31] THE OTHER OF COURSE IS WHETHER COCKPITS SHOULD BE LOCKED COCKPITS SHOULD BE LOCKED ANYMORE. ANYMORE. THAT BECAME THE PRACTICE OF [00:13:35] THAT BECAME THE PRACTICE OF 9/11, BUT IN THIS CASE THE ONLY [00:13:37] 9/11, BUT IN THIS CASE THE ONLY REASON ALL THE PASSENGERS [00:13:40] REASON ALL THE PASSENGERS SURVIVED IS THAT THE CAPTAIN NOW [00:13:42] SURVIVED IS THAT THE CAPTAIN NOW HAILED A HERO WAS ABLE TO UNLOCK [00:13:45] HAILED A HERO WAS ABLE TO UNLOCK THE COCKPIT AND ALLOW HELP TO THE COCKPIT AND ALLOW HELP TO COME IN. [00:13:48] COME IN. IF HE HADN'T BEEN ABLE TO DO IF HE HADN'T BEEN ABLE TO DO THAT, THIS STORY COULD HAVE HAD THAT, THIS STORY COULD HAVE HAD A [00:13:54] It is absolutely shocking that the people on this plane [00:13:57] survived. [00:14:00] Look, this is video taken by a [00:14:02] passenger. Pure panic onboard fly Dubai flight 1073 after the [00:14:06] copilot of the plane allegedly stabbed the pilot. The entire [00:14:11] plane at this point at grave risk of crashing and everyone [00:14:15] was screaming, there were children crying. [00:14:18] Except a whole series of things happen. Highly improbable, [00:14:23] almost impossible, it seems to me [00:14:26] as a commercial. [00:14:31] All of these incredible things together end up saving [00:14:35] everybody's life against all odds. And I'm going to show you [00:14:39] how [00:14:44] there were more than 170 people on board this flight, [00:14:47] which is a daily flight running from Dubai International in the [00:14:51] United Arab Emirates to Ben Gurion International near Tel [00:14:55] Aviv in Israel. This is what that flight path normally looks [00:14:59] like. It's about a three hour flight, [00:15:02] except on September 30th, things would take a very abrupt [00:15:06] turn here. But when I say abrupt turn, [00:15:08] I don't mean left or right, I mean down. [00:15:11] At around 8:21 AM local time over Saudi airspace, [00:15:15] the plane lost altitude more than 17, [00:15:17] 000 feet in under a minute and it speed up dramatically as it [00:15:22] pitched towards the earth [00:15:26] Jordanian border. Suddenly the aircraft dropped a massive [00:15:30] massive turbulence for 2030 seconds. We know now what was [00:15:34] happening around this time was the planes copilot allegedly [00:15:38] attacking the planes captain nearly killing him. The [00:15:42] struggle beginning after he stabbed the other pilot and [00:15:46] sent the jet plunging thousands of meters in just seconds. At [00:15:50] this point, with the attacker taking [00:15:53] control, potentially looking to crash [00:15:55] the plane, the only way that people on [00:15:58] board survive is if the captain survives. And improbably, [00:16:02] he does. This is him, Captain Smith Matcha from India. [00:16:06] He somehow manages to survive a surprise attack from an armed [00:16:10] assailant in close quarters while flying a plane. But he's [00:16:14] down and in a real bad way. One of the passengers, [00:16:17] a dentist would later tell CNN. Much other suffered massive [00:16:21] blood loss, was severely wounded. He was [00:16:24] covered in cuts, his head, [00:16:26] his hands, they were practically sliced [00:16:29] open, almost severed in two. [00:16:31] Historically when 1 pilot turns on the other. There are clear [00:16:35] examples where this ends in disaster for everybody on board. [00:16:39] In 2015, Germanwings flight 9525, [00:16:41] the copilot locks the captain out of the cockpit when he [00:16:45] leaves to use the bathroom. He then manually steers the plane [00:16:49] into a rapid descent, crashing into the French Alps. [00:16:53] Everybody on board dies. Or just a couple years before that, [00:16:57] in 2013, same thing, except this time it's the [00:17:00] captain on a flight from Mozambique who locks the [00:17:03] copilot out of the cockpit. He crashes the plane into a [00:17:07] National Park in Namibia, once again killing everybody on [00:17:11] board. But this time, Captain Matcha survives the [00:17:14] attack from his copilot and manages to do one other [00:17:18] incredible thing that's single handedly triggers a series of [00:17:22] events that keep that plane in the air. [00:17:30] So imagine the copilot is believed to have attacked the [00:17:33] captain with some sort of stabbing weapon, [00:17:36] leaves him bleeding on the ground. I've seen multiple [00:17:40] reports that he was so grievously wounded he was on [00:17:44] the verge of passing out completely even that he did at [00:17:48] one point, but just before he did he [00:17:50] somehow unlocks the cockpit door. They redesigned airplanes [00:17:54] to, in fact, create [00:17:56] this impenetrable door between the cabin and the cockpit. That [00:18:00] door remains locked from the incident. Problem with [00:18:03] yesterday is that the threat did not come from the cabinet. [00:18:07] This is the critical point at which the entire arc of this [00:18:10] crisis pivots. It's where passengers begin to realize not [00:18:14] just that something has gone terribly wrong, [00:18:17] but that they can do something about it. [00:18:20] The plane just started going up and down, [00:18:23] says 1 passenger. We started hearing screams. The plane, [00:18:27] according to those on board, nose dived at a sickening angle. [00:18:30] Overhead bins popped open and luggage flew out. Other [00:18:34] accounts spoke of incredible G forces almost pinning [00:18:37] passengers to their seats as the plane itself plunged and [00:18:41] leveled repeatedly. It was like the craziest Holocaust that you [00:18:45] ever did, but like, multiplied by [00:18:48] father. It felt like something really wrong is happening here. [00:18:52] So for some passengers to have overcome this chaos and to have [00:18:56] the instinct to burst into the cockpit to see what was wrong, [00:19:01] Yet another incredible development, [00:19:03] without which I don't know how this plane survives. Eventually, [00:19:07] one man bursts in and grabs the assailant, the copilot, [00:19:11] from behind. Yes, [00:19:15] the first Beta beta message. [00:19:21] That's one of the many heroes of this story. By all accounts, [00:19:25] wrestling control of the plane from the alleged hijacker [00:19:29] happened very quickly. The dentist I mentioned earlier, [00:19:33] he says he tied the attacker up using headphone cords and [00:19:37] plastic zip ties. He then started tending to the wounded [00:19:40] pilot. He was in serious condition, not critical, [00:19:44] perhaps, but serious due to the massive [00:19:46] blood loss. And that would have looked like [00:19:50] and a warn you this is the most graphic part of the story [00:19:54] because it's at this point we have video of the state of the [00:19:58] lanes captain as he's lying injured on the floor. [00:20:01] But this was the scene you're looking at. 2 bloodied pilots [00:20:05] on the floor on this passenger jet in mid air, [00:20:09] passengers holding one of them down, [00:20:11] treating the other. The reason I show that to you is because I [00:20:15] want you to understand how unreal this all would have felt [00:20:19] to everybody on board. And yet we have yet another improbable [00:20:23] act from the very same passenger who claims to have [00:20:27] subdued the attacker in the 1st place. He single handedly pulls [00:20:31] the plane out of its nose dive. [00:20:35] Uh, [00:20:37] yeah. [00:20:39] He would later reveal he learned that move from TV shows [00:20:43] pulling on the pilot steering column, [00:20:45] the yoke to pitch the planes nose up. They actually pull up [00:20:49] the stick the the airplane stick. The plane was decreasing [00:20:53] in very, very sharp angle. It is a [00:20:55] tricky maneuver, you know, not normal or a commercial [00:20:59] airliner to be in that flight position to be nose down at 600 [00:21:03] miles an hour. But even all this, [00:21:05] as improbable as it all is put together, [00:21:07] only leads to yet another impossible question. [00:21:11] How do you land a plane when you have no pilot? [00:21:19] In a normal emergency, if such a thing even exists, [00:21:23] the pilot is doing more than just flying the plane and [00:21:27] landing it. They are the planes eyes and ears, [00:21:30] navigating weather patterns, how much fuel they've got left, [00:21:34] and which runways are even available and safe. There was [00:21:38] nothing but desert beneath US1 passenger told CNN. We feared [00:21:42] being taken to an enemy country or landing in the middle of the [00:21:46] desert. We didn't know who to trust. Now, [00:21:49] if this were a Hollywood movie, the scripted stroke of luck [00:21:53] here would be that someone on board is simply bold enough to [00:21:57] do something like land a plane that they've never done before [00:22:01] and it just happens to work out. But in real life, [00:22:05] there just happened to be another set of pilots on board, [00:22:09] an off duty British pilot along with another, together, [00:22:12] a pair of relief pilots who were meant to fly the next [00:22:16] flight [00:22:18] was fortunate that they were on an airplane that had this extra [00:22:22] deadheading crew, as we call it. You know, [00:22:25] but to actually jump into a pilot seat when you've got [00:22:28] another pilot next to you that potentially was suicidal and [00:22:32] the captain of the aircraft neutralized as well was [00:22:36] absolutely heroic action. Those 2 pilots took control of the [00:22:40] plane, diverted to an airport not in [00:22:43] Israel where they were originally going, [00:22:45] but in nearby Saudi Arabia instead. [00:22:48] Which interestingly is a country Israel has no formal [00:22:52] diplomatic relations with, but that years ago did open its [00:22:56] airspace. 2 passenger planes flying to and from Israel. So [00:23:00] they had control of the plane and a safe runway to land on. [00:23:04] But there was still one more problem. The plane was badly [00:23:08] damaged. When I saw the images of the aircraft on the ground [00:23:12] with the rudder section torn out, [00:23:14] I immediately had a cold chill. If you've ever looked at the [00:23:19] back of a plane, [00:23:20] you know what that vertical tail looks like. But what's a [00:23:23] little more subtle than that is the rudder, [00:23:26] which is this movable flap that controls the side to side [00:23:29] swinging of the lanes nose. It's basically stabilizing the [00:23:33] plane. If you RIP that out, as you can see in these photos [00:23:36] here of this fly Dubai flight shortly after emergency landing, [00:23:40] you have two problems. 1 is that you're possibly bleeding [00:23:44] hydraulic fluid out all over the place, [00:23:46] which affects a whole bunch of other systems on the plane. But [00:23:50] two, [00:23:51] landing becomes more dangerous. Letters are the key element of [00:23:54] aircraft stability, particularly at landing. And in [00:23:58] this case the runner was not there. The airplane went [00:24:01] through extensive aerodynamic shot. All of the experts I've [00:24:05] heard on this believe it was the planes nosedive. We [00:24:08] mentioned at the start that sudden steep descent that [00:24:12] likely applied enormous aerodynamic forces to the tail, [00:24:16] enough to RIP that part of the rudder right off. But somehow [00:24:20] those two relief pilots [00:24:21] managed to land the plane regardless, [00:24:27] so now investigators have their work cut out for them. Why did [00:24:31] this copilot hijack the plane, and what was he trying to do? [00:24:35] Did he improvise the weapon he used, [00:24:38] or did he smuggle it on board? And Speaking of getting on [00:24:42] board, should intelligence or law [00:24:44] enforcement officers have known to apprehend him before he got [00:24:48] on that plane? Those answers will hopefully [00:24:51] come with time, but all we know now is that [00:24:54] this plane load of passengers somehow pulled off the [00:24:57] impossible. The captain surviving A devastating attack, [00:25:01] managing with his last sliver of consciousness to open the [00:25:05] cockpit door, allowing passengers undergoing [00:25:07] extreme G forces to storm that cockpit, subdue the attacker, [00:25:11] pull the plane out of the nosedive just in time. And then [00:25:15] they just happened to have a pair of pilots on hand who [00:25:18] grabbed the controls, find a safe runway to land on, [00:25:22] and manage to do so with a severely damaged rudder in a [00:25:25] plane that no inspector would ever consider airworthy. [00:25:29] I don't know what you call that, but as terrible and traumatic [00:25:33] as it was for everyone involved, those folks undeniably got very, [00:25:39] very lucky. [00:27:46] THEY PUT THEM IN FOURTH PLACE BEHIND THE QUÉBEC LIBERAL PARTY [00:27:50] BEHIND THE QUÉBEC LIBERAL PARTY AND THE CONSERVATIVES. AND THE CONSERVATIVES. >>> MARK CARNEY HAS ANNOUNCED [00:27:53] >>> MARK CARNEY HAS ANNOUNCED THE FORMATION OF A NEW NATIONAL [00:27:55] THE FORMATION OF A NEW NATIONAL COUNCIL ON ARTIFICIAL COUNCIL ON ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE. [00:27:59] INTELLIGENCE. HE CLAIMED THAT PROVIDING THE HE CLAIMED THAT PROVIDING THE GOVERNMENT WITH A.I. STRATEGY GOVERNMENT WITH A.I. STRATEGY AND MAKING THE TECHNOLOGY [00:28:03] AND MAKING THE TECHNOLOGY SAFER. SAFER. THE RELEASE SAYS THAT THEY WILL THE RELEASE SAYS THAT THEY WILL BRING TOGETHER PUBLIC AND [00:28:06] BRING TOGETHER PUBLIC AND PRIVATE STAKEHOLDERS TO GUIDE PRIVATE STAKEHOLDERS TO GUIDE THE GOVERNMENT ON THE EVOLUTION [00:28:09] THE GOVERNMENT ON THE EVOLUTION OF ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE IN OF ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE IN CANADA. [00:28:13] CANADA. THEY WILL ADVISE ON MAKING A I THEY WILL ADVISE ON MAKING A I SAFER, PROTECTING CANADA'S [00:28:17] SAFER, PROTECTING CANADA'S DEMOCRACY AND ENSURING ALL [00:28:18] DEMOCRACY AND ENSURING ALL CANADIANS PROSPER FROM A.I. [00:28:21] CANADIANS PROSPER FROM A.I. IT COMES AS EXPERTS AND IT COMES AS EXPERTS AND STAKEHOLDERS WORLDWIDE ARE [00:28:24] STAKEHOLDERS WORLDWIDE ARE PUSHING FOR CAUTION OVER THE PUSHING FOR CAUTION OVER THE RAPID DEVELOPMENT OF A.I. [00:28:28] RAPID DEVELOPMENT OF A.I. >>> FOR MORE ON THIS, WE ARE [00:28:31] >>> FOR MORE ON THIS, WE ARE JOINED BY A PROFESSOR OF JOINED BY A PROFESSOR OF LINGUISTICS AT THE UNIVERSITY OF [00:28:34] LINGUISTICS AT THE UNIVERSITY OF WASHINGTON, AND A.I. REPORTER, [00:28:37] WASHINGTON, AND A.I. REPORTER, AND A COGNITIVE SCIENTIST, [00:28:38] AND A COGNITIVE SCIENTIST, AUTHOR AND A.I. RESEARCHER. [00:28:41] AUTHOR AND A.I. RESEARCHER. THANK YOU FOR MAKING TIME FOR THANK YOU FOR MAKING TIME FOR US. US. >> THANKS FOR HAVING US. [00:28:45] >> THANKS FOR HAVING US. >> LEISURE TO BE HERE. [00:28:48] >> LEISURE TO BE HERE. >> LET'S START WITH OTTAWA [00:28:50] >> LET'S START WITH OTTAWA ANNOUNCING THE FORMATION OF THIS [00:28:52] ANNOUNCING THE FORMATION OF THIS 13 MEMBER NATIONAL COUNCIL ON 13 MEMBER NATIONAL COUNCIL ON ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE. [00:28:55] ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE. IT IS SUPPOSED TO GIVE GUIDANCE IT IS SUPPOSED TO GIVE GUIDANCE TO PROVIDE THOSE GUARDRAILS THAT [00:28:59] TO PROVIDE THOSE GUARDRAILS THAT HAVE BEEN TALKED ABOUT SO MUCH [00:29:03] HAVE BEEN TALKED ABOUT SO MUCH RECENTLY, BUT ALSO PROVIDE RECENTLY, BUT ALSO PROVIDE OPPORTUNITIES. OPPORTUNITIES. LET'S START WITH YOU, VERY. [00:29:07] LET'S START WITH YOU, VERY. WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THIS? [00:29:10] WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THIS? WILL DO ENOUGH TO TACKLE SOME OF [00:29:11] WILL DO ENOUGH TO TACKLE SOME OF THE CHALLENGES THAT WE ARE [00:29:14] THE CHALLENGES THAT WE ARE HEARING FROM SOME OF THE TOP [00:29:16] HEARING FROM SOME OF THE TOP A.I. EXPERTS IN THE WORLD? [00:29:20] A.I. EXPERTS IN THE WORLD? >> I THINK IT IS A GOOD PANEL. >> I THINK IT IS A GOOD PANEL. I DO NOTICE LIVING HERE IN [00:29:23] I DO NOTICE LIVING HERE IN VANCOUVER THAT THERE IS [00:29:26] VANCOUVER THAT THERE IS BASICALLY NOBODY FROM WEST OF [00:29:30] BASICALLY NOBODY FROM WEST OF ONTARIO. [00:29:33] ONTARIO. I THINK BRITISH COLUMBIA GETS I THINK BRITISH COLUMBIA GETS SOME REPRESENTATION. [00:29:36] SOME REPRESENTATION. THE REAL QUESTION IS THE EXTENT THE REAL QUESTION IS THE EXTENT OF WHICH THEY ARE ANYTHING MORE [00:29:40] OF WHICH THEY ARE ANYTHING MORE THAN JUST AN ADVISING BODY AND THAN JUST AN ADVISING BODY AND HOW MUCH INFLUENCE THEY HAVE AND HOW MUCH INFLUENCE THEY HAVE AND HOW MUCH INFLUENCE CONTROL THEY