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[01:00:21] >> Rosemary: THIS SUNDAY ON "ROSEMARY BARTON LIVE" FROM MONTREAL.
[01:00:25] [♪♪] >> WE ARE GOING TO BUILD WITH SPEED BUT WE ARE GOING TO DO IT THE RIGHT WAY.
[01:00:28] >> Rosemary: PIPELINE POLITICS. A NEW WEST COAST PIPELINE CLEARS
[01:00:31] THE NEXT HURDLE. WILL A PRIVATE COMPANY GET
[01:00:34] BEHIND IT? WHAT ABOUT ENVIRONMENTAL AND INDIGENOUS CONCERNS.
[01:00:38] ENERGY MINISTER TIM HODGSON IS
[01:00:39] HERE.
[01:00:43] >> IT IS A UNCERTAINTY THAT PSPP WANTS A REFERENDUM.
[01:00:46] IT'S NOT A CERTAINTY THAT THERE WILL BE A REFERENDUM. >> Rosemary: QUEBEC'S ELECTION
[01:00:49] IS TOMORROW. THE PARTI QUÉBÉCOIS LEADING IN THE POLLS. WHAT COULD A CHANGE IN
[01:00:53] GOVERNMENT IN QUEBEC MEAN FOR THE COUNTRY? I'LL ASK FORMER P.Q. LEADER
[01:00:57] JEAN-FRANÇOIS LISÉE. >> WISCONSIN IS AN AGRICULTURE
[01:01:01] STATE AND OUR FARMERS ARE SCREAMING. >> Rosemary: THE TOP U.S.
[01:01:04] NEGOTIATOR SAYS ISSUES REMAIN ON
[01:01:07] A TRADE DEAL WITH CANADA, BUT AS MIDTERMS NEAR, AMERICAN POLITICIANS ARE SPEAKING OUT.
[01:01:11] I'LL ASK CONGRESSWOMAN GWEN MOORE WHY TARIFFS ARE HURTING AMERICANS. IT ALL STARTS NOW ON "ROSEMARY
[01:01:15] BARTON LIVE."
[01:01:24] [♪♪] >> Rosemary: THANKS FOR JOINING US ON THIS SUNDAY WHERE INDEED
[01:01:27] I'M COMING TO YOU FROM MONTREAL AHEAD OF TOMORROW'S PROVINCIAL
[01:01:31] ELECTION AND WE WILL GET TO
[01:01:33] THAT, BUT FIRST LET'S START IN ALBERTA WHERE PRIME MINISTER MARK CARNEY ANNOUNCED THE
[01:01:37] DESIGNATION OF CANADA'S FIRST PROJECT OF NATIONAL INTEREST A
[01:01:41] NEW WEST COAST OIL PIPELINE. >> Prime Minister Mark Carney:
[01:01:43] OUR GOVERNMENT WAS ELECTED TO
[01:01:45] CHANGE THINGS TO BUILD CANADA
[01:01:48] STRONG AND WE'RE DOING JUST THAT.
[01:01:50] LET'S BE CLEAR, CANADA WILL
[01:01:53] REMAIN A COUNTRY OF HIGH
[01:01:55] STANDARDS, BUT HIGH STANDARDS DO
[01:01:57] NOT REQUIRE SLOW DECISIONS. >> Rosemary: THE PROJECT WHICH
[01:02:00] IS NOW OFFICIALLY CALLED THE
[01:02:03] PACIFIC LINK PIPELINE WILL START
[01:02:05] IN BREWED HOOIM, ALBERTA, AND
[01:02:08] CARRY OVER 1 MILLION BARRELS OF OIL A DAY TO THE ROBERT BANK
[01:02:11] TERMINAL, THAT'S IN BRITISH COLUMBIA. BUT THERE IS STILL A LOT OF WORK
[01:02:15] TO DO BEFORE SHOVELS HIT THE
[01:02:17] GROUND LIKE CONSULT INDIGENOUS
[01:02:23] GROUPS, CONDUCT ECOLOGICAL SURVEYS AND CANADA IS LOOKING
[01:02:26] FOR A PRIVATE INVESTOR TO FOOT
[01:02:29] THE $40 BILLION PRICE TAG.
[01:02:34] MINISTER HODGSON, THANKS SO MUCH FOR JOINING US.
[01:02:37] >> The Hon. Tim Hodgson: A
[01:02:38] PLEASURE TO BE HERE ROSIE.
[01:02:43] >> Rosemary: I WANT TO START
[01:02:44] WITH THE NEXT STEP AND THAT IS
[01:02:47] ACCOMMODATING AND AVOIDING POTENTIAL EFFECTS.
[01:02:50] THAT COULD BE FIRST NATIONS CONCERNS OR ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERNS.
[01:02:54] HOW CHALLENGING DO YOU THINK THAT NEXT PART OF THE STEP WILL
[01:02:56] BE IN TERMS OF CREATING THE CONDITIONS TO ALLOW THIS TO
[01:03:00] HAPPEN? >> The Hon. Tim Hodgson: SO NOW THAT WE HAVE A DECISION THAT
[01:03:04] WE'RE LISTING THE PROJECT SO
[01:03:06] IT'S NOT LONGER IF BUT HOW, WE
[01:03:10] GO TO SORT OF THREE BIG PIECES
[01:03:14] OF WORK.
[01:03:15] THE FIRST IS THE INTENSIVE
[01:03:20] CONSULTATION ON THE PROJECT ITSELF WITH INDIGENOUS PEOPLES
[01:03:23] BEING LED BY THE M.P.O. AND THAT
[01:03:27] WILL BE A BIG IMPORTANT PART OF
[01:03:29] WORK THAT YOU JUST DESCRIBED TO
[01:03:33] MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE ACCOMMODATING, MITIGATING,
[01:03:36] AVOIDING ISSUES THAT ARISE.
[01:03:38] THE SECOND PIECE IS THE PUBLIC
[01:03:41] HEARINGS THAT HAPPEN WITH THE
[01:03:43] CANADIAN ENERGY REGULATOR.
[01:03:46] THOSE ARE PUBLIC HEARINGS WHERE ANYONE CAN GO AND CAN SHARE
[01:03:50] THEIR PERSPECTIVES, INCLUDING INDIGENOUS PEOPLES.
[01:03:53] THEY WILL LOOK AT THE TECHNICAL
[01:03:55] ASPECTS OF THE PROJECT, THE ENVIRONMENTAL ASPECTS OF THE
[01:03:59] PROJECT, THE SOCIAL, CULTURAL, HEALTH, SAFETY, AND SECURITY ELEMENTS.
[01:04:03] AND THEN THE THIRD PIECE OF THIS WILL BE THE COORDINATION
[01:04:07] FUNCTION THE M.P.O. DOES WITH
[01:04:10] ALL OF THE DEPARTMENTS IN
[01:04:12] GOVERNMENT, COLLECTING WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO HONOUR OUR
[01:04:16] COMMITMENTS IN EACH OF THE ACTS AT GOVERNMENT AND TURN THAT INTO
[01:04:20] THE ONE CONDITIONS DOCUMENT. SO THOSE ARE THE THREE BIG
[01:04:24] CHUNKS OF WORK THAT WE HAVE BETWEEN NOW AND NEXT SEPTEMBER.
[01:04:28] >> Rosemary: OKAY. SO THERE ANYTHING IN THOSE THREE
[01:04:32] CHUNKS OF WORK THERE THAT WOULD
[01:04:33] PREVENT THIS PIPELINE FROM GOING
[01:04:36] AHEAD? >> The Hon. Tim Hodgson: NOT IN OUR OPINION.
[01:04:39] WHEN WE LOOKED AT IT IN THE
[01:04:43] MAJOR PROJECTS OFFICE AS PART OF THE LISTING, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE MAJOR PROJECTS OFFICE
[01:04:46] LOOKED AT IS ARE THERE ANY
[01:04:49] FUNDAMENTAL SHOW-STOPPERS AND IT
[01:04:52] WAS THEIR CONCLUSION AND THE
[01:04:55] RECOMMENDATION TO THE GOVERNOR-IN-COUNCIL THAT THERE
[01:04:57] IS A WAY TO GET THIS DONE IN A
[01:05:00] WAY THAT IS GOOD FOR CANADA, THAT IS A NET INTEREST OF CANADA.
[01:05:03] >> Rosemary: SO AS YOU KNOW, I
[01:05:06] MEAN, THERE ARE OBVIOUSLY PEOPLE OPPOSED AND THEY WILL BE PART OF
[01:05:09] THESE CONVERSATIONS AND CONSULTATIONS GOING FORWARD, BUT
[01:05:12] IF YOU LOOK AT, FOR INSTANCE,
[01:05:14] THE STURGEON LAKE CREE NATION, IT REACTED TO THIS NEWS SAYING
[01:05:18] THIS WAS ALL A PREDETERMINED OUTCOME AND THIS WAS NOT FREE,
[01:05:21] PRIOR, AND INFORMED CONSENT,
[01:05:24] THAT CONDITIONS ARE NOT ENOUGH
[01:05:29] FOR WHAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS REQUIRED TO DO WITH FIRST NATIONS.
[01:05:32] HOW DO YOU REASSURE GROUPS THAT
[01:05:34] THEIR INPUT IS GOING TO BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY, GIVEN THAT THE
[01:05:38] OUTCOME IS THERE IS GOING TO BE
[01:05:41] A PIPELINE? >> The Hon. Tim Hodgson: SO,
[01:05:43] ROSIE, I THINK IT'S -- WE ALL
[01:05:45] NEED TO UNDERSTAND THIS IS A NEW
[01:05:48] PROCESS.
[01:05:50] PREVIOUSLY WE HAD ONE SORT OF
[01:05:52] BIG LUMP OF CONSULTATIONS.
[01:05:57] IT WASN'T VERY EFFICIENT. WE'RE FIXING THAT.
[01:06:00] BUT THERE WAS ONE BIG PIECE OF
[01:06:03] CONSULTATIONS AROUND A PROJECT. >> Rosemary: RIGHT. >> The Hon. Tim Hodgson: UNDER
[01:06:07] THE BUILDING CANADA ACT THERE ARE TWO PIECES.
[01:06:10] THERE IS THE CONSULTATION THAT RELATES TO THE LISTING AND THEN
[01:06:13] THERE IS THE CONSULTATION THAT RELATES TO THE PROJECT.
[01:06:15] WHAT WE'VE DONE THUS FAR IS THE
[01:06:19] CONSULTATION WITH RESPECT TO THE LISTING.
[01:06:21] AND IT WAS PRETTY INTENSE.
[01:06:23] ALL 110 NATIONS ALONG THE ROUTE
[01:06:26] WERE CONSULTED. THERE WERE 140 MEETINGS, THERE
[01:06:30] WERE 70 SUBMISSIONS. THERE WERE MULTIPLE MEETINGS
[01:06:34] WITH CABINET MINISTERS.
[01:06:36] AND I THINK THE CONCLUSION WAS
[01:06:39] THAT THIS PROJECT IS IN THE NATIONAL INTEREST.
[01:06:41] NOW WE GO TO THE SECOND PIECE OF
[01:06:45] WORK WHICH I THINK THIS PARTICULAR NATION IS FOCUSED ON
[01:06:48] IS CAN WE DO THE ACCOMMODATION?
[01:06:53] CAN WE DO THE MITIGATION?
[01:06:56] CAN WE AVOID THE CONCERNS? AND I THINK WE HAVE THE REALITY
[01:07:00] THAT THE TRANS MOUNTAIN EXPANSION, WHICH IS THE SAME
[01:07:03] BASIC ROUTE, WE WERE ABLE TO GET
[01:07:05] THAT DONE SO WE BELIEVE WE'LL BE
[01:07:08] ABLE TO DO IT AGAIN. >> Rosemary: LET ME TALK TO YOU
[01:07:12] ABOUT OWNERSHIP.
[01:07:13] THE PEMBINA GROUP HAS A 10%
[01:07:17] OWNERSHIP. THERE IS NO BIG PROPONENT WILLING TO PAY THE BILLIONS OF
[01:07:20] DOLLARS FOR THIS TO GO AHEAD. YOU'VE BEEN I THINK DEEPLY
[01:07:23] INVOLVED IN THAT PIECE OF IT AND I WONDER HOW CONFIDENT YOU ARE
[01:07:27] THAT ONCE THIS CONDITION PHASE IS DONE, A PRIVATE PROPONENT
[01:07:31] WILL COME FORWARD.
[01:07:33] >> The Hon. Tim Hodgson: SO
[01:07:36] HERE'S WHAT I WOULD SAY.
[01:07:39] CANADA DOES NOT HAVE A GREAT
[01:07:42] RECORD HISTORICALLY AROUND
[01:07:44] BUILDING OIL PIPELINES.
[01:07:47] AND THE PRIVATE SECTOR IS A
[01:07:49] LITTLE BIT RETICENT, GIVEN THAT
[01:07:51] THERE HAVE BEEN SO MANY DELAYS,
[01:07:54] THERE HAVE BEEN SO MANY CHALLENGES.
[01:07:57] WHAT WE'RE SHOWING WITH THIS NEW
[01:07:59] ACT IS WE ARE GOING TO OPERATE
[01:08:02] DIFFERENTLY, WE ARE GOING TO BUILD WITH SPEED BUT WE'RE GOING
[01:08:05] TO DO IT THE RIGHT WAY.
[01:08:07] AND I BELIEVE AS WE HIT THESE
[01:08:09] GATES, AS WE HIT THE MILESTONES
[01:08:11] AND WE'VE BEEN DOING THAT
[01:08:13] CONSISTENTLY AS A NEW
[01:08:16] GOVERNMENT, WE WILL BE DEMONSTRATING TO THE PRIVATE
[01:08:19] SECTOR THAT THIS IS AN
[01:08:22] INVESTABLE SECTOR.
[01:08:24] WE'VE SEEN PEMBINA COME IN FOR
[01:08:27] 10% OF THE PROJECT.
[01:08:29] WE KNOW THEY ARE INTERESTED AND
[01:08:32] HAVE THE RIGHT TO GO UP ANOTHER
[01:08:34] 10% TO 20% OF THE PROJECT.
[01:08:37] WE KNOW INDIGENOUS PEOPLE FROM THE CONSULTATIONS WE HAVE ARE
[01:08:41] VERY INTERESTED IN TAKING EQUITY OWNERSHIP AND WE'VE COMMITTED
[01:08:45] THAT THERE WILL BE A MINIMUM OF
[01:08:48] 10% OF INDIGENOUS OWNERSHIP.
[01:08:52] I BELIEVE AS WE HIT THESE MILESTONES YOU WILL SEE THE
[01:08:56] OWNERSHIP OF THE PIPELINE EVOLVE AND I THINK YOU WILL SEE OTHER
[01:09:00] PEOPLE WHO WANT TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS.
[01:09:02] AND WE JUST SAW THIS LAST WEEK
[01:09:05] WHEN INVESTORS FROM ALL OVER THE
[01:09:11] WORLD CAME TO INVEST IN L.N.G.
[01:09:14] IN THAT SECTOR WE CONVINCED PEOPLE WE'RE AN INVESTABLE
[01:09:17] SECTOR AND CAPITAL IS POURING IN. WE NEED TO CONVINCE THE WORLD WE
[01:09:21] NEED TO BUILD OIL PIPELINES AGAIN. >> Rosemary: I GET WHAT YOU'RE
[01:09:25] SAYING IN TERMS OF THE RETICENCE
[01:09:27] OF THE PRIVATE SECTOR AND THE GOVERNMENT LOOKING AT WAYS TO
[01:09:31] REASSURE THEM, BUT PRESIDENT IT WAS THE PRIME MINISTER HIMSELF
[01:09:34] WHO LESS THAN A YEAR AGO SAID IF THERE IS NOT A PRIVATE SECTOR
[01:09:38] PROPONENT, THERE WILL BE NO PIPELINE. IS THAT STILL THE CASE OR IS
[01:09:41] THAT NO LONGER THE CASE?
[01:09:43] >> I THINK ALL CANADIANS KNOW
[01:09:45] THAT OUR PRIME MINISTER IS A VERY PRACTICAL AND PRAGMATIC PERSON.
[01:09:49] THE WORLD HAS CHANGED A LOT IN THE LAST YEAR.
[01:09:52] I THINK CANADIANS UNDERSTAND WE
[01:09:56] ARE NOW IN THE WORST ENERGY
[01:09:58] CRISIS IN MODERN HISTORY.
[01:10:01] WE ARE SEEING OUR ALLIES AROUND
[01:10:03] THE WORLD RUNNING OUT OF ENERGY.
[01:10:06] WE ARE IN THE MIDST OF A TRADE
[01:10:09] WAR, A TRADE WAR THAT WE DIDN'T
[01:10:11] ASK FOR THAT WE NEED TO WIN.
[01:10:14] ALL OF THESE THINGS REQUIRE
[01:10:18] EXECUTION AT SPEED RIGHT NOW, AGAIN, DOING IT THE RIGHT WAY,
[01:10:21] BUT EXECUTION AT SPEED.
[01:10:23] IT IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO FOR CANADA.
[01:10:26] >> Rosemary: BUT DOES THAT MEAN, MINISTER -- SORRY TO INTERRUPT
[01:10:30] YOU, BUT DOES THAT MEAN THAT
[01:10:33] STATEMENT NO LONGER STANDS, THAT
[01:10:34] IT HAS TO BE A PRIVATE PROPONENT
[01:10:37] FOR THIS PIPELINE TO GO AHEAD? IT'S POSSIBLE THAT CANADIAN
[01:10:40] TAXPAYERS WILL BE FOOTING THE BILL FOR THIS?
[01:10:43] >> >> The Hon. Tim Hodgson: WHAT WE
[01:10:46] KNOW TO GET TO THE DECISION NEXT
[01:10:49] YEAR, THERE WILL BE INVESTMENT FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND THE PROVINCIAL GOVERNMENT AND
[01:10:53] PEMBINA PIPELINES, A PRIVATE SECTOR PROPONENT.
[01:10:55] WHAT I CAN TELL YOU LOOKING AT THE TRANS MOUNTAIN EXPANSION THAT WAS JUST DONE BY
[01:10:59] TRANS MOUNTAIN WHICH IS OWNED BY
[01:11:00] THE GOVERNMENT OF CANADA, IT HAS
[01:11:04] BEEN A VERY PROFITABLE ENDEAVOUR.
[01:11:06] NOT ONLY IS IT QUITE A
[01:11:10] PROFITABLE ENDEAVOUR, IT'S INCREDIBLY STRATEGIC.
[01:11:13] THE FACT THAT CANADA HAS THAT PIPELINE NOW AND THAT WE NO
[01:11:16] LONGER ONLY CAN SELL OUR OIL TO
[01:11:19] ONE CUSTOMER, THAT WE CAN SELL
[01:11:20] IT TO ALL OF OUR ALLIES
[01:11:23] THROUGHOUT ASIA AND EUROPE IS INCREDIBLY STRATEGIC.
[01:11:27] IT PUTS REALLY IMPORTANT CARDS
[01:11:30] IN OUR HANDS IN THIS DIFFICULT TIME.
[01:11:32] THIS NEW PIPELINE WILL DO THAT
[01:11:35] TO AN EVEN GREATER DEGREE.
[01:11:38] >> Rosemary: LAST QUESTION ABOUT THAT SORT OF ABOUT THE OTHER POLITICAL CONTEXT AND THAT'S OF
[01:11:41] COURSE THAT WE'RE A COUPLE WEEKS OUT FROM A REFERENDUM IN ALBERTA.
[01:11:45] THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THE PREMIER AND THE PRIME MINISTER
[01:11:48] POINTED TO YESTERDAY AS A SIGN THAT CANADA WORKS.
[01:11:52] DO YOU THINK THAT THIS PIPELINE WOULD BE HAPPENING SO QUICKLY
[01:11:55] WITHOUT THIS POLITICAL CONTEXT?
[01:11:58] HOW IMPORTANT IS THE REFERENDUM
[01:12:01] AND YOUR CONCERNS AROUND
[01:12:04] NATIONAL UNITY TO THIS PROJECT? >> The Hon. Tim Hodgson: SO
[01:12:08] SINCE THE DAY THAT THE PRIME
[01:12:10] MINISTER AND THIS GOVERNMENT WAS
[01:12:13] ELECTED, PLAN A HAS BEEN TO BECOME A CLEAN AND CONVENTIONAL
[01:12:17] ENERGY SUPER POWER.
[01:12:18] PLAN A HAS BEEN TO DIVERSIFY WHO
[01:12:21] WE CAN SELL OUR RESOURCES TO FROM THE VERY BEGINNING.
[01:12:25] THAT'S WHY OUR FIRST BILL WAS
[01:12:27] THE BUILDING CANADA ACT.
[01:12:29] THAT BILL AND THE CREATION OF
[01:12:33] THE MAJOR PROJECTS OFFICE SET THE STAGE FOR THIS.
[01:12:37] THE PEOPLE OF ALBERTA ARE GOING
[01:12:39] TO DECIDE FOR ALBERTA.
[01:12:42] WE BELIEVE THERE IS A GOOD PLACE
[01:12:44] FOR ALBERTA IN A STRONG CANADA.
[01:12:50] BUT THIS PROJECT IS BIGGER THAN
[01:12:52] THAT PARTICULAR ISSUE. THIS IS WHAT IS HAPPENING IN THE WORLD.
[01:12:56] THE PRIME MINISTER SAID WE'RE IN A HINGE MOMENT.
[01:12:58] WE'RE IN A MORE DANGEROUS AND VOLATILE WORLD.
[01:13:02] CANADA HAS TO GIVE ITSELF MORE THAN OTHERS CAN TAKE AWAY.
[01:13:06] THIS PROJECT IS A KEY PART OF THAT INITIATIVE. >> Rosemary: MINISTER HODGSON,
[01:13:09] GOOD OF YOU TO MAKE THE TIME.
[01:13:13] >> The Hon. Tim Hodgson: THANK YOU, ROSIE, TAKE CARE.
[01:13:16] >> Rosemary: QUEBECERS HEAD TO
[01:13:18] AN ELECTION IN AN ELECTION THAT
[01:13:21] COULD SEE A PARTI QUÉBÉCOIS GOVERNMENT. I'LL ASK THE PARTY'S FORMER
[01:13:25] LEADER ABOUT THIS COMEBACK AND THE TALK OF A THIRD REFERENDUM.
[01:13:29] MY CONVERSATION WITH JEAN-FRANÇOIS LISÉE IS NEXT.
[01:13:31] YOU'RE WATCHING "R.B.L." FROM FROM MONTREAL. [♪♪]
[01:15:54] [♪♪]
[01:16:00] >> Rosemary: AS PARTY LEADERS IN QUEBEC MAKE THEIR FINAL PITCH TO
[01:16:03] VOTERS AHEAD OF MONDAY'S ELECTION, THE PARTI QUÉBÉCOIS IS
[01:16:06] BRACING FOR A COMEBACK. >> I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO IT IF
[01:16:09] THAT'S THE CHOICE OF QUEBECERS,
[01:16:11] I'LL BE A PREMIER FOR EVERYONE. [ Applause ]. >> Rosemary: FOR THE FIRST TIME
[01:16:15] SINCE 2014, THE P.Q. IS EXPECTED TO FORM GOVERNMENT, POSSIBLY
[01:16:19] EVEN A MAJORITY AND ITS LEADER IS PROMISING TO HOLD A THIRD
[01:16:22] REFERENDUM, BUT ONLY AFTER DONALD TRUMP LEAVES OFFICE,
[01:16:24] CREATING A NEW POLITICAL CHALLENGE FOR OTTAWA.
[01:16:28] >> Prime Minister Mark Carney: WE WILL WORK WITH WHATEVER GOVERNMENT THAT QUEBECERS CHOOSE
[01:16:31] ON THE 5th OF OCTOBER. >> Rosemary: JEAN-FRANÇOIS LISÉE
[01:16:35] WAS THE LEADER OF THE PARTI QUÉBÉCOIS FROM 2016 TO 2018.
[01:16:38] I ASKED HIM ABOUT THE PARTY'S
[01:16:41] MOMENT AND WHAT HE'S WATCHING FOR ON ELECTION DAY.
[01:16:45] JEAN-FRANÇOIS LISÉE, NICE TO SEE YOU. THANKS FOR BEING HERE.
[01:16:48] >> THANKS VERY MUCH FOR HAVING ME, ROSEMARY. >> Rosemary: SO THE LATEST POLLS
[01:16:52] AND THIS HAS BEEN THE TREND FOR A WHILE SHOW THAT THE PARTI
[01:16:55] QUÉBÉCOIS IS LIKELY GOING TO FORM GOVERNMENT ON MONDAY.
[01:16:58] WE STILL DON'T KNOW IF IT'S A MINORITY OR A MAJORITY.
[01:17:01] EXPLAIN TO ME HOW THE PARTI
[01:17:03] QUÉBÉCOIS WENT FROM THREE SEATS IN THE 2022 ELECTION TO WHERE IT
[01:17:07] IS NOW. HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN THAT RESURGENCE?
[01:17:11] >> WELL, OF COURSE THE
[01:17:15] WILLINGNESS FOR CHANGE IS THE MAIN FACTOR.
[01:17:18] SO WHEN MR. LEGAULT WAS S
[01:17:21] RE-ELECTED IN 2022 WITH 90 SEATS
[01:17:24] OUT OF 125, HIS VERY BEIGE
[01:17:30] SLOGAN WAS "KEEP ON," AND PEOPLE
[01:17:34] WERE OVERWHELM GINGLY SATISFIED
[01:17:38] WITH IT. THEN MR. LEGAULT DESTROYED HIS
[01:17:41] CREDIBILITY BY A NUMBER OF VERY
[01:17:43] ILL-ADVISED DECISIONS, ABOUT
[01:17:45] FACES ON A NUMBER OF ISSUES, AND
[01:17:48] FAILURES IN INVESTMENTS.
[01:17:53] SO AN OPENING WAS MADE FOR
[01:17:56] CHANGE.
[01:17:57] AND AND DURING THAT TIME, PAUL
[01:18:00] ST-PIERRE PLAMONDON GREW IN POPULARITY, WON ALMOST EVERY
[01:18:04] SINGLE BY-ELECTION AND GREW HIS
[01:18:09] CAUSE OF ACTION AND BECAME THE
[01:18:11] CHOICE FOR CHANGE.
[01:18:13] BUT THEN A NUMBER OF THINGS
[01:18:16] HAPPENED THAT COULD HAVE IMPEDED
[01:18:18] HIM FROM GETTING TO POWER. BUT HERE WE ARE. >> Rosemary: OKAY AND I WANT
[01:18:21] TO -- I MEAN, THE ELECTION IS SO
[01:18:23] EXTRAORDINARY FOR SO MANY REASONS, BUT FOR PEOPLE THAT
[01:18:27] DON'T KNOW THE P.Q. LEADER, PAUL
[01:18:30] ST-PIERRE PLAMONDON, OR PSPP AS
[01:18:33] HE'S KNOWN IN QUEBEC, DESCRIBE
[01:18:36] HIM TO CANADIANS FOR THOSE WHO MIGHT NOT THE BE FAMILIAR WITH
[01:18:39] HIM AND THE WAY HE DOES POLITICS.
[01:18:41] >> FIRST, HE'S A -- WELL, HE'S
[01:18:45] -- THE GENERATIONAL FACTOR IS THERE.
[01:18:47] HE IS FROM THE X GENERATION AS
[01:18:51] ARE MOST OF THE OTHER LEADERS,
[01:18:59] HE WENT TO I THINK IT'S OXFORD.
[01:19:04] VERY WELL SCHOOLED, VERY
[01:19:06] INTELLIGENT FELLOW, BUT VERY
[01:19:08] INTENSE IN HIS BELIEF OF
[01:19:14] INDEPENDENCE FOR QUEBEC. SOMETIMES IT'S TOO INTENSE IN
[01:19:17] SOME OF HIS ARGUMENTS BY
[01:19:19] OPPONENTS AND SOMETIMES BY HIS
[01:19:22] SUPPORTERS, BUT VERY CONSISTENT.
[01:19:28] AND HIS PERSONA HAS BEEN BUILT
[01:19:32] OVER CONSISTENCY, FRANKNESS,
[01:19:34] DIRECTNESS TO A FAULT.
[01:19:36] AND HE CHOSE AS A SLOGAN THE
[01:19:40] CHOICE OF TRUST BECAUSE PEOPLE
[01:19:45] GOT TO DISTRUSTING THE LEGAULT
[01:19:48] GOVERNMENT SO MUCH THAT TRUST
[01:19:50] BECAME AN ADDED VALUE IN THE
[01:19:54] CAMPAIGN. SO THIS IS VERY MUCH THE WAY HE
[01:19:57] PRESENTS HIMSELF TO QUEBECERS
[01:19:59] AND CLEARLY THERE IS A THIRST
[01:20:02] FOR THIS IN A SUFFICIENT NUMBER OF QUEBECERS, GIVEN THAT WE HAVE
[01:20:05] FIVE COMPETITIVE PARTIES TO PASS
[01:20:08] THE THRESHOLD NEEDED TO BE
[01:20:12] GOVERNMENT WHICH IS PRETTY LOW,
[01:20:14] WHICH IS 28, 29%. >> Rosemary: HE OBVIOUSLY HAS
[01:20:17] PROMISED A REFERENDUM, BUT HE SAID HE WON'T DO IT UNTIL DONALD
[01:20:21] TRUMP IS IN OFFICE. AS SOMEONE WHO HAS SEEN THE
[01:20:25] PARTI QUÉBÉCOIS GO THROUGH THIS CYCLE A NUMBER OF TIMES WITH
[01:20:28] ONLY TWO REFERENDUMS HAVING BEEN
[01:20:31] HELD, DO YOU THINK THAT WAS THE RIGHT DECISION AND DO YOU THINK HE IS VERY COMMITTED TO HOLDING
[01:20:35] A REFERENDUM? >> OH, HE IS COMPLETELY COMMITTED.
[01:20:38] BUT THAT WAS A MASTER STROKE, A MASTER STROKE.
[01:20:42] I MEAN, THERE WAS NEVER
[01:20:45] SOMETHING AS ANGUISH-PRODUCING
[01:20:50] AS DONALD TRUMP.
[01:20:52] I MEAN, YOU POLL PEOPLE HERE AND
[01:20:55] ACROSS CANADA AND YOU WILL FIND
[01:20:57] ALMOST HALF OF THEM THAT THINK
[01:21:00] MILITARY INTERVENTION COULD HAPPEN.
[01:21:02] SO THIS IS A LEVEL OF
[01:21:05] UNCERTAINTY UNHEARD OF IN ANY PREVIOUS POLITICAL CYCLES.
[01:21:09] AND BY SAYING THE DAY BEFORE THE START OF THE CAMPAIGN THAT HE
[01:21:13] WOULD NOT HOLD A REFERENDUM
[01:21:14] UNTIL TRUMP LEFT, HE DID HELP
[01:21:19] HIMSELF TREMENDOUSLY AND THE REFERENDUM SHOULD HAVE BEEN,
[01:21:23] COULD HAVE BEEN THE KEY ISSUE OF
[01:21:25] THE CAMPAIGN AND IT BECAME ONE
[01:21:27] OF MANY ISSUES. AND SO I THINK THIS IS ONE OF
[01:21:31] THE KEYS TO HIS ELECTION.
[01:21:33] >> Rosemary: YOU SAID HE COULD
[01:21:35] GET ELECTED WITH 29, 30% OF THE VOTE BECAUSE THERE ARE FIVE
[01:21:38] PARTIES IN THE RUNNING, WHICH IS SO EXTRAORDINARY.
[01:21:42] BUT 30% IS ALSO THE NUMBER OF
[01:21:46] QUEBECERS WHO SAY THEY WOULD VOTE YES IN A REFERENDUM, WHO
[01:21:49] ARE INTERESTED IN A REFERENDUM. DO YOU THINK THAT A REFERENDUM
[01:21:51] IS POSSIBLE IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS?
[01:21:55] DO YOU THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT QUEBECERS ARE STILL INTERESTED
[01:21:57] IN, DESPITE THE NUMBERS I JUST PUT FORWARD THERE?
[01:22:01] >> WELL, 30% IS PRETTY MUCH
[01:22:04] ROUGHLY THE NUMBERS. THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO WANT A
[01:22:07] REFERENDUM, THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE
[01:22:09] WHO WOULD VOTE YES TODAY AND THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO WOULD VOTE
[01:22:13] FOR THE P.Q.
[01:22:15] SO OF COURSE YOU CANNOT GET A
[01:22:17] YES WITH 30%.
[01:22:19] SO CLEARLY HE HAS A LONG RUNWAY
[01:22:25] UNTIL TRUMP LEAVES IN JANUARY OF
[01:22:27] 2029 TO TRY TO GET THIS NUMBER
[01:22:31] UP.
[01:22:33] AND IT IS A CERTAINTY THAT PSPP
[01:22:35] WANTS A REFERENDUM. IT'S NOT A CERTAINTY THAT THERE
[01:22:39] WILL BE A REFERENDUM FOR TWO MAIN REASONS.
[01:22:41] FIRST, IF HE IS IN A MINORITY
[01:22:44] POSITION, SO HE NEEDS TO HAVE
[01:22:46] SOME MEMBERS OF THE OTHER
[01:22:48] PARTIES, EITHER THE PARTIES OR
[01:22:51] SOME CROSSOVERS THAT WILL GIVE
[01:22:53] HIM THIS MAJORITY, HE NEEDS A
[01:22:56] MAJORITY TO HOLD THE REFERENDUM, SO HE DOESN'T HAVE IT IF IT'S IN
[01:23:00] A MINORITY POSITION. BUT LET'S SAY THAT WE'RE
[01:23:04] PROJECTING OURSELVES IN THE
[01:23:06] SPRING OF 2029, IF THE SUPPORT
[01:23:09] FOR SOVEREIGNTY IS STILL AROUND
[01:23:12] 30%, THERE IS GOING TO BE A VERY
[01:23:14] HEAVY DEBATE WITHIN A MAJORITY
[01:23:17] P.Q. GOVERNMENT ON THE
[01:23:19] OPPORTUNITY OF HOLDING THIS REFERENDUM.
[01:23:22] SO THIS IS PRETTY FAR AWAY. THINGS CAN CHANGE.
[01:23:25] WE HAVE SEEN SITUATIONS OF
[01:23:28] SURGES OF SOVEREIGNIST SENTIMENT.
[01:23:32] THE LAST ONE WAS IN 2006 DURING
[01:23:35] THE SPONSORSHIP SCANDAL.
[01:23:37] WITHIN THREE MONTHS, 56% OF
[01:23:40] QUEBECERS WANTED TO VOTE FOR INDEPENDENCE.
[01:23:42] SO WILL THIS HAPPEN BEFORE THE TIME OF LAUNCHING THE
[01:23:46] REFERENDUM? NOBODY KNOWS. >> Rosemary: I WILL JUST END ON
[01:23:49] THIS, HOW MUCH OF A TEST DO YOU THINK IT IS FOR PRIME MINISTER
[01:23:52] MARK CARNEY? HE IS THE MOST POPULAR
[01:23:55] POLITICIAN IN QUEBEC RIGHT NOW.
[01:23:57] WHAT DO YOU WANT TO SEE IN TERMS
[01:23:59] OF THE RELATIONSHIP THERE IF PSPP WINS ON MONDAY?
[01:24:03] >> WELL, PSPP WILL BE A TOUGH
[01:24:06] CLIENT FOR CARNEY, THAT'S FOR SURE.
[01:24:09] AND CARNEY HAS I WOULD SAY HIS
[01:24:10] KNOWLEDGE OF QUEBEC IS AKIN TO A
[01:24:16] REGULATOR IN QUEBEC. HE DOESN'T HAVE AN IN-DEPTH
[01:24:19] KNOWLEDGE OF QUEBEC. IF YOU LOOK AT THE OTHER TOUGH
[01:24:23] CLIENT OF THE FEDERATION WHICH WAS DANIELLE SMITH, WHAT CARNEY
[01:24:26] DID, HE TOOK THE LIST OF DEMANDS
[01:24:29] OF THAT CLIENT, CHECKED EVERY
[01:24:32] BOX, AND NOW SHE'S A FRIEND.
[01:24:34] NOW, IF HE TURNS TO QUEBEC AND
[01:24:38] TAKES THE 20 DEMANDS OF THE C.A.Q. HAVE FOR QUEBEC WITHIN
[01:24:41] THE FEDERATION AND CHECKS EVERY
[01:24:43] BOX, THEN HE DEFEATS THE
[01:24:46] SOVEREIGNISTS, BUT WILL HE DO THAT? THAT'S A TRICKY THING.
[01:24:49] >> Rosemary: IT IS A TRICKY THING. IT IS GOING TO BE A WILD NIGHT
[01:24:53] ON MONDAY. JEAN-FRANÇOIS LISÉE, THANK YOU
[01:24:55] FOR THE TIME. >> THANK YOU. [♪♪]
[01:24:58] >> Rosemary: YOU CAN FOLLOW ALL
[01:25:00] THE ELECTION NIGHT ACTION LIVE
[01:25:03] RIGHT HERE ON CBC NEWS NETWORK,
[01:25:05] CBC MONTREAL HOST DEBRA ARBEC
[01:25:11] AND HER TEAM WILL BRING YOU THE
[01:25:15] RESULTS. WE WILL BRING YOU LIVE REPORTS
[01:25:17] FROM FROM RIDINGS RIGHT ACROSS QUEBEC. REMEMBER, THERE ARE FOUR PARTIES
[01:25:21] HERE AND NONE OF THEM HAVE REACHED MORE THAN 30% OF THE
[01:25:25] VOTE. SO IT COULD BE A WILD RIDE.
[01:25:29] THAT COVERAGE KICKS OFF AT 7:30
[01:25:32] P.M. EASTERN AND 4:30 P.M. EASTERN.
[01:25:35] YOU CAN ALSO TUNE IN ONLINE. SEE YOU TOMORROW FOR THAT ONE.
[01:25:39] STILL AHEAD, THE POLITICS FOR THE WEST COAST PIPELINE.
[01:25:42] WHAT COULD THIS MEAN FOR SEPARATIST SENTIMENT IN ALBERTA?
[01:25:46] WHAT CHALLENGES DOES THIS PIPELINE FACE WHEN IT COMES TO FIRST NATIONS SUPPORT IF IT
[01:25:49] WANTS TO GET SHOVELS IN THE
[01:25:51] GROUND BY NEXT SEPTEMBER, AND THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS.
[01:25:55] WE HAVE OUR "SUNDAY SCRUM"
[01:25:56] STANDING BY FOR ALL OF THAT. YOU'RE WATCHING "R.B.L."
[01:26:01] >> Announc
[01:28:15] [♪♪]
[01:28:23] >> Rosemary: SOME FIRST NATIONS GROUPS ARE PUSHING BACK ON THE
[01:28:26] NATIONAL INTEREST DESIGNATION FOR THE PACIFIC LINK PIPELINE. THAT'S THE NEW PIPELINE TO THE
[01:28:30] WEST COAST. ONE OF THOSE GROUPS IS THE B.C.
[01:28:33] UNION OF INDIAN CHIEFS AND THEIR
[01:28:36] PRESIDENT GRAND CHIEF STEWART PHILLIP JOINS ME NOW.
[01:28:40] GOOD MORNING, GRAND CHIEF. >> GOOD MORNING. >> Rosemary: THE GOVERNMENT SAYS
[01:28:44] THIS HAS TO GET DONE VERY QUICKLY BY NEXT SEPTEMBER IT
[01:28:47] WANTS ALL CONSULTATIONS AND MITIGATIONS AND RECOMMENDATIONS
[01:28:50] ALL WRAPPED UP.
[01:28:52] HOW CONCERNED ARE YOU THAT THAT
[01:28:55] TIMELINE WILL WORK?
[01:28:58] >> BRITISH COLUMBIA FIRST
[01:29:02] NATIONS ARE GRAVELY CONCERNED
[01:29:05] ABOUT THE PROPOSED PIPELINE FROM
[01:29:09] ALBERTA TO B.C. COAST, THE
[01:29:15] MANNER IN WHICH IT HAS BEEN
[01:29:17] PROPOSED AND THE MANNER IN WHICH
[01:29:20] IT IS BEING ADVANCED.
[01:29:25] IT'S A COMPLETE BREACH OF THE
[01:29:27] LEGAL OBLIGATIONS ON PART OF
[01:29:30] CANADA, BRITISH COLUMBIA, AND
[01:29:34] THE CORPORATE WORLD ITSELF.
[01:29:42] IN TERMS OF COMPLETELY IGNORING
[01:29:44] THE LEGAL OBLIGATIONS, THE
[01:29:48] CONSTITUTIONAL OBLIGATIONS OF
[01:29:50] FREE, PRIOR, AND INFORMED
[01:29:53] CONSENT. >> Rosemary: DO YOU THINK THAT
[01:29:57] THAT CONSENT CAN BE GRANTED OR
[01:30:00] SOUGHT OVER THE NEXT 11 MONTHS?
[01:30:02] AS YOU KNOW, THE CONTEXT IN
[01:30:04] WHICH THIS IS HAPPENING AND
[01:30:07] CHALLENGING FOR CANADA AND THE
[01:30:09] GOVERNMENT SAYS THAT IT NEEDS TO DO THIS QUICKLY IN ORDER TO
[01:30:13] RESPOND TO THAT GEOPOLITICAL
[01:30:16] CONTEXT.
[01:30:20] >> YES, I BELIEVE WE ARE ON
[01:30:26] STRONG LEGAL FOOTING IN TERMS OF
[01:30:28] THE GOVERNMENT'S BREACH OF GOOD
[01:30:31] FA
[01:30:34] FAITH, THEIR ABSOLUTE FAILURE TO
[01:30:44] COMPREHENSIVELY OFFER A DEEP
[01:30:46] CONSULTATION PROCESS BASED ON
[01:30:51] FREE, PRIOR, AND INFORMED
[01:30:54] CONSENT. >> Rosemary: SO WHAT DOES THAT
[01:30:58] MEAN, GRAND CHIEF? DO YOU EXPECT THAT LEGAL ACTION
[01:31:02] WILL FOLLOW?
[01:31:04] >> I BELIEVE THAT LIKE ALL OTHER
[01:31:08] PIPELINE WARS IN MANY B.C., WE
[01:31:11] ARE HEADING BACK TO THE COURTS
[01:31:20] AND BACK THROUGH THE POLITICAL
[01:31:23] CHANNELS AND QUARTERBACK QUITE
[01:31:25] POSSIBLY, BEING BACK OUT ON THE
[01:31:28] FRONT LINES AGAIN. THIS IS NOT OUR FIRST PIPELINE
[01:31:32] W WAR.
[01:31:35] >> Rosemary: OKAY, GRAND CHIEF STEWART PHILLIP, WE WILL LEAVE IT THERE THIS MORNING.
[01:31:38] THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, SIR. >> EXCUSE ME?
[01:31:42] >> Rosemary: THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME, GRAND CHIEF.
[01:31:45] >> OH, THANK YOU. >> Prime Minister Mark Carney:
[01:31:48] THE PIPELINE TO THE WEST COAST IS PART OF OUR MISSION TO
[01:31:51] TRANSFORM OUR ECONOMY, TO DOUBLE
[01:31:52] OUR NON-U.S. EXPORTS OVER THE
[01:31:56] NEXT DECADE. >> Premier Danielle Smith: THIS IS A MONUMENTAL DAY FOR OUR
[01:31:59] PROVINCE AND OUR COUNTRY. IT IS ALSO AN IMPORTANT STEP
[01:32:03] TOWARDS THE GOAL OF THE NECESSARY APPROVALS AND
[01:32:06] CONDITIONS TO GET APPROVAL AS
[01:32:08] EARLY AS SEPTEMBER 2027. >> Rosemary: THE PRIME MINISTER
[01:32:11] AND THE ALBERTA PREMIER ON THE
[01:32:13] NATIONAL INTEREST DESIGNATION OF
[01:32:17] THE PACIFIC LINK PIPELINE.
[01:32:21] THERE IS PUSH BACK FROM ENVIRONMENTAL ADVOCATES AND INDIGENOUS GROUPS.
[01:32:24] WHAT ARE THE CHALLENGES AHEAD FOR THE PROJECT?
[01:32:28] LET'S BRING IN OUR "SUNDAY SCRUM".
[01:32:30] MARIE VESTEL IN GATINEAU, EMILIE
[01:32:37] NICHOLAS AND ROB BREAKENRIDGE IS
[01:32:39] A COLUMNIST AT THE "CALGARY HERALD." GOOD TO SEE EVERYONE.
[01:32:43] MAYBE I WILL START WHERE I LEFT OFF WITH THE GRAND CHIEF, WHO IS
[01:32:47] PREPARING TO GET IN THE WAY OF
[01:32:50] THIS PROJECT, DESPITE THE DETERMINATION BY THE FEDERAL AND
[01:32:53] THE PROVINCIAL GOVERNMENTS. ROB, HOW REALISTIC DO YOU THINK
[01:32:57] THIS TIMELINE IS RIGHT NOW, GIVEN THERE ARE ALREADY PEOPLE
[01:33:00] SAYING WE'RE NOT GOING AHEAD WITH THIS, DESPITE OF YOUR
[01:33:04] INTENT OF DOING ONE REVIEW, ONE PROJECT?
[01:33:07] >> WELL, I GUESS WE'LL FIND OUT, RIGHT.
[01:33:10] IT WAS INTERESTING TO NOTE AT THAT PRESS CONFERENCE IN
[01:33:13] FORT McMURRAY ON THURSDAY, WERE THE FIRST NATIONS, THE
[01:33:16] INDIGENOUS LEADERS WHO WERE IN ATTENDANCE. AND IT CERTAINLY IMPLIES THAT
[01:33:19] THERE HAS ALREADY BEEN SOME OF THAT CONSULTATION WORK DONE IN
[01:33:23] EFFORTS TO REACH OUT TO THESE COMMUNITIES TO BRING THEM INTO
[01:33:26] THIS PROJECT AND THERE WAS CERTAINLY SOME DESIGNATED
[01:33:29] INDIGENOUS OWNERSHIP ON THIS PROJECT. SO I THINK THERE ARE LESSONS
[01:33:33] THAT HAVE BEEN LEARNED FROM THE PAST EVEN AS RECENTLY AS THE
[01:33:36] TRANS MOUNTAIN STATISTICIAN. REMEMBER, THAT WAS STRUCK DOWN
[01:33:40] BY THE COURTS.
[01:33:45] REMEMBER REMEMBER, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A PROJECT THAT IS VERY SIMILAR TO THE TRANS MOUNTAIN
[01:33:49] PIPELINE APPROXIMATE. NOW, THE IDEA THAT YOU CAN
[01:33:53] ACCELERATE THE TIMELINE AND STILL DO MEANINGFUL CONSULTATION, I GUESS THAT'S A
[01:33:56] PRINCIPLE THAT WILL BE TESTED
[01:33:59] HERE, BUT I THINK THE GOVERNMENT
[01:34:01] BELIEVES IT'S ON SOLID FOOTING
[01:34:03] IN THE GROUNDWORK IT LAID OUT SO
[01:34:13] FEDERAL SUPPORT AND BROAD PUBLIC SUPPORT, WHETHER THIS GETS OVER
[01:34:16] THE FINISH LINE, THERE IS NO GUARANTEE AT THIS POINT.
[01:34:19] SO THERE ARE STILL SOME BLANKS
[01:34:20] TO BE FILLED IN IN TERMS OF THAT CONSULTATION, CONSENT, PRIVATE
[01:34:24] AREA OF RESPONSIBILITY AND PRIVATE BACKING, THE PRODUCTION TO FILL THE PIPELINE, ALL OF
[01:34:28] THOSE QUESTIONS. >> Rosemary: YOU TALKED TO ONE GUY THIS WEEK.
[01:34:32] YOU DID AN INTERVIEW WITH PIERRE POILIEVRE WHO BASICALLY SAID
[01:34:35] I'LL BELIEVE IT WHEN I SEE IT.
[01:34:37] >> WELL, AND THAT'S THE THING, RIGHT.
[01:34:39] I MEAN, WHEN YOU GET THE ALBERTA
[01:34:42] GOVERNMENT HOLDING THIS UP AS A
[01:34:44] MAJOR POLITICAL WIN AND ESPECIALLY GIVEN THE CLIMATE IN
[01:34:47] ALBERTA, THE VOTE TAKING PLACE ON OCTOBER 19, IN FAIRNESS TO
[01:34:51] PIERRE POILIEVRE, HE CAME TO ALBERTA AND DELIVERED AN
[01:34:55] IMPASSIONED PLEA FOR UNITY AND
[01:34:57] THE CASE AGAINST SEPARATISM, BUT
[01:35:00] TO TURN AROUND AND SAY MARK
[01:35:02] CARNEY IS NOT SERIOUS AND THAT'S AN ILLUSION.
[01:35:05] HE MAYBE UNFORTUNATELY UNDERCUT
[01:35:08] HIS OWN MESSAGE A LITTLE BIT. THAT IS THE DIVIDE IN ALBERTA.
[01:35:12] DO YOU BELIEVE AND TRUST THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WILL
[01:35:14] SUPPORT THIS AND SEE THIS THROUGH.
[01:35:16] IS THIS AN EXAMPLE HOW THIS CAN WORK OR IS THIS LOOSELY WITH THE
[01:35:20] FOOTBALL HERE. >> Rosemary: AND AND, MARIE, I
[01:35:23] SORT OF PUT THAT TO THE MINISTER.
[01:35:26] I THINK THAT CERTAINLY THE GOAL
[01:35:29] FROM THIS GOVERNMENT IS MAKE
[01:35:33] CANADA AN ENERGY SUPER POWER AND
[01:35:35] CREATE GROWTH AND JOBS. I'M NOT SURE THIS WOULD BE THE
[01:35:39] SAME WITHOUT THE POTENTIAL OF A REFERENDUM IN ALBERTA.
[01:35:42] THAT DOES SEEM TO LEND SOME
[01:35:44] URGENCY TO THE PROJECT. >> YEAH, I DON'T THINK THE
[01:35:48] STRATEGY WOULD BE DRASTICALLY DIFFERENT FOR THE PRIME MINISTER
[01:35:51] IN TERMS OF DIVERSIFYING TRADE AND PARTNERS.
[01:35:54] BUT I AGREE, THE FACT THAT THIS
[01:35:56] WAS CONFIRMED 18 DAYS BEFORE THAT FIRST REFERENDUM VOTE, I
[01:36:00] MEAN, IT WOULD BE A LITTLE SILLY
[01:36:02] TO THINK THAT THAT'S A COINCIDENCE.
[01:36:05] BUT I DID FIND IT INTERESTING ALSO IN YOUR INTERVIEW WITH THE
[01:36:09] MINISTER, YOU CERTAINLY TRIED TO
[01:36:10] GET SOME CLARIFICATIONS AND HE
[01:36:13] CERTAINLY MADE SURE SHE DIDN'T GIVE IN TO YOU.
[01:36:16] TO THE POINT ABOUT THIS PROJECT,
[01:36:18] WILL IT GO AHEAD, WILL IT GO AS
[01:36:22] SEEMINGLY AS THEY WOULD LIKE IT TO, THERE ARE A LOT OF QUESTIONS
[01:36:25] THAT ARE STILL WITHOUT ANSWERS, WHICH YOU TOUCHED ON DURING YOUR
[01:36:29] INTERVIEW, BUT EVEN DURING AN ALMOST ONE-HOUR BRIEFING WITH
[01:36:32] GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS THIS WEEK, THERE WEREN'T ANY ANSWERS ON
[01:36:35] WHAT DOES THIS MEAN FOR ENVIRONMENTAL POLLUTION REDUCTION TARGETS.
[01:36:39] THEY'RE SAYING, WELL, IT DOESN'T
[01:36:41] DIRECTLY CONTRIBUTE TO THE REDUCTION, THAT'S A NICE WAY OF
[01:36:44] SAYING THAT IT DOES THE OPPOSITE.
[01:36:46] ON PATHWAYS, IS IT A CONDITION
[01:36:48] TO -- WHICH USED TO BE A
[01:36:51] CONDITION, RIGHT. PATHWAYS HAPPENS IN ORDER FOR
[01:36:54] THIS PIPELINE TO BE BUILT. THEY'RE CONFIDENT, BUT THEY'RE
[01:36:57] NOT REALLY SAYING IF IT'S STILL
[01:37:00] AN OBLIGATION ON INDIGENOUS CONSULTATIONS THEY'RE SAYING
[01:37:04] THEY'RE CONFIDENT AGAIN, BUT NOT
[01:37:06] DENYING THAT THEY ARE, INDEED, PROBABLY EXPECTING A LEGAL
[01:37:10] CHALLENGE. ON THE ECONOMIC MODEL, THEY'RE
[01:37:13] SAYING -- THEY DIDN'T REALLY
[01:37:15] ANSWER WHETHER THE DEMAND WOULD
[01:37:17] BE THERE IN 2032-33 WHEN THIS
[01:37:20] PIPELINE WOULD BE IN OPERATION. THERE ARE STILL A LOT OF QUESTIONS AND I DO THINK THAT'S
[01:37:24] A VULNERABILITY FOR THE PRIME MINISTER BECAUSE IT'S ONE THING
[01:37:26] TO WANT TO TRANSFORM THE ECONOMIC MODEL OF CANADA, BUT I
[01:37:30] DO THINK THAT HE NEEDS TO BRING
[01:37:33] PEOPLE ALONG WITH HIM BECAUSE OTHERWISE WHAT YOU RISK IS
[01:37:36] HAVING CERTAIN AREAS WHERE
[01:37:40] THERE'S -- THINGS DON'T ALIGN
[01:37:42] AND YOU RISK KIND OF IF IT
[01:37:45] WASN'T WORK OUT HAVING BOTH
[01:37:47] SIDES IN THE END BEING
[01:37:49] FRUSTRATED AND NOT ALIGNED.
[01:37:53] THAT DOESN'T HELP HIS PLAN OR
[01:37:55] THE UNITY OF CANADA IF BOTH
[01:37:57] SIDES ARE FRUSTRATED WITH WHAT THEY WERE TOLD WOULD HAPPEN.
[01:38:00] >> Rosemary: EMILIE, WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THINGS?
[01:38:03] >> I JUST THINK IT WOULD BE FOR PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND IN ANY
[01:38:06] OTHER ASPECT OF OUR LIVES THAT
[01:38:10] ISN'T RELATED TO POLITICS IF
[01:38:15] SOMEBODY WOULD BE SAYING WE ARE
[01:38:16] GOING TO DO THIS, THIS IS OF A
[01:38:19] PRIORITY IMPORTANCE FOR US THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING IT AND I
[01:38:23] NEED TO BE DONE HEARING WHAT YOU
[01:38:25] HAVE TO SAY ABOUT MY PRIOR MADE
[01:38:29] DECISION TO DO IT IN A YEAR.
[01:38:30] BUT THAT CONSULTATION OF YOUR
[01:38:33] POINT OF VIEW IS MEANINGFUL.
[01:38:35] AND IT'S SORT OF THE WAY WE'VE
[01:38:37] BEEN OPERATING WITH THIS AND I
[01:38:39] DO UNDERSTAND THE PERSPECTIVE OF
[01:38:42] FIRST NATIONS WHO FEEL LIKE BILL
[01:38:44] C-5 AND NOW THE PROPOSED
[01:38:47] BUILDING CANADA STRONG BILL IS ESSENTIALLY MAKING A FARCE OUT
[01:38:51] OF CONSULTING WITH FIRST
[01:38:56] NATIONS.
[01:38:56] THE GOAL IS TO BUILD AND YOU'RE
[01:39:00] ESSENTIALLY TREATING CONSULTATIONS WITH FIRST NATION
[01:39:03] AS SOME SORT OF A PAPERWORK THAT NEEDS TO GET THROUGH.
[01:39:07] YOU'RE GOING TO SEE ISSUES OF SOVEREIGNTY BEING RAISED AND
[01:39:10] THAT'S UNAVOIDABLE. IT'S ALSO PART OF THE HISTORY OF
[01:39:13] THIS COUNTRY AND IT'S WITH MARK
[01:39:16] CARNEY HIMSELF WHO DREW SOME
[01:39:18] PARALLELS ON A YOUTUBE VIDEO RECENTLY BETWEEN WHAT HE IS
[01:39:22] DOING IN TERMS OF TRYING TO BUILD MAJOR INFRASTRUCTURE
[01:39:25] ACROSS THE COUNTRY AND WHAT JOHN
[01:39:28] A. MACDONALD TRIED TO ACHIEVE IN
[01:39:29] HIS TIMES. OBVIOUSLY THOSE ARE VERY
[01:39:33] DIFFERENT TIMES AND THE METHODS HAVE EVOLVED.
[01:39:35] I CANNOT NAME A PERIOD OF TIME IN CANADA WHERE WE'VE BEEN
[01:39:39] TRYING TO BUILD INFRASTRUCTURE REALLY FAST THAT HASN'T BEEN AT
[01:39:43] THE EXPENSE OF FIRST NATIONS' RIGHTS.
[01:39:45] SO I THINK WE'RE GOING THROUGH A
[01:39:48] MOMENT LIKE THIS RIGHT NOW AND
[01:39:51] I'M CAREFUL NOW IN TERMS OF WATCHING LANGUAGE IN TERMS OF
[01:39:55] TRYING TO GET AWAY FROM THE RED TAPE AND THINGS THAT SOUND LIKE UNCERTAINTY.
[01:39:59] THAT VOCABULARY IS USED IN
[01:40:00] BUSINESS CIRCLES AS A WAY TO
[01:40:03] NAME HUMAN RIGHTS OF FIRST NATIONS AND FIRST NATIONS'
[01:40:06] RIGHTS AS A PESKY JUST
[01:40:12] BUREAUCRATIC CONCERNS RATHER THAN WHAT THEY ARE.
[01:40:16] AND I AM ENCOURAGING EVERYONE TO WATCH FOR THAT VOCABULARY THAT
[01:40:19] IS USED AS A WAY TO AVOID SAYING
[01:40:23] THAT INDIGENOUS RIGHTS ARE SEEN
[01:40:24] IN THIS COUNTRY VERY MUCH AS A
[01:40:27] WAY TO HARM ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT
[01:40:30] AND THAT'S ONE OF THE CASES IN
[01:40:33] WHICH WE'RE SEEING THIS.
[01:40:36] >> Rosemary: ROB, ON THE PROJECT
[01:40:44] BUILT WITH PRIVATE CAPITAL. IT NO LONGER SEEMS TO BE A PRIORITY.
[01:40:48] >> WELL, AND I THINK THE HOPE IS
[01:40:50] THAT AS THIS MOVES ALONG AND AS
[01:40:53] THERE'S SOME ADDITIONAL UNCERTAINTY AROUND THIS PROJECT
[01:40:55] THAT YOU WILL START TO SEE THAT. TRANS MOUNTAIN CORPORATION IS A
[01:40:59] CROWN CORPORATION. YOU HAVE THE PEMBINA PIPELINE CORPORATION INVOLVED IN THIS.
[01:41:03] SO THERE IS THAT SIDE OF IT, BUT I THINK ALSO TO SEE NOT JUST
[01:41:07] WITH THE PIPELINE ITSELF BUT THE
[01:41:09] PRIVATE SECTOR COMMITMENTS TO INCREASING PRODUCTION AND THE
[01:41:12] PRIVATE SECTOR COMMITS TO FILLING THIS PIPELINE AND ALSO
[01:41:15] SEEING THE PRIVATE SECTOR COMMITTING TO INVOLVEMENT AND TO
[01:41:18] MOVING FORWARD WITH PATHWAYS AS WAS ALLUDED TO.
[01:41:21] SO I THINK WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS PROJECT AND EVERYTHING
[01:41:24] ASSOCIATED WITH IT, THERE ARE
[01:41:26] VARYING LEVELS OF PRIVATE SECTOR INVOLVEMENT.
[01:41:29] ALL IN ALL IT'S A FAIR QUESTION.
[01:41:32] TRANS MOUNTAIN HAD GOVERNMENT BACKING. IT'S CERTAINLY PAYING DIVIDENDS
[01:41:36] NOW THAT IT'S OPERATIONAL AND FILLING UP QUICKLY AND THAT'S
[01:41:38] SEEN AS A MODEL. BUT HOW DO YOU REDUCE THAT
[01:41:42] TAXPAYER EXPOSURE?
[01:41:44] IS THERE AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOAD
[01:41:46] THE PIPELINE AFTER TO THE PRIVATE SECTOR.
[01:41:50] A LOT OF THIS IS LET'S GET THIS GOING AND FIGURE IT OUT AFTER
[01:41:53] THE FACT. THERE IS A RISK, NOT JUST
[01:41:56] ECONOMIC BUT POLITICAL THAT THAT APPROACH ENTAILS. >> Rosemary: OKAY.
[01:42:00] THANK YOU GUYS. LOTS OF MEATY CONVERSATIONS FOR
[01:42:04] A SUNDAY MORNING. MARIE, EMILIE, AND ROB.
[01:42:07] I'LL SEE YOU LATER AND TOMORROW
[01:42:09] NIGHT ON SET FOR THE ELECTION.
[01:42:11] THANKS FOR SPENDING PART OF YOUR SUNDAY WITH US.
[01:42:14] WE APPRECIATE IT. >>> TRUMP'S TRADE REPRESENTATIVE
[01:42:17] SAYS ISSUES WITH CANADA REMAIN HARD TO RESOLVE. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN FOR THE
[01:42:21] PROSPECT OF A DEAL?
[01:42:23] WISCONSIN CONGRESSWOMAN GWEN
[01:42:26] MOORE JOINS ME NEXT WITH HER
[01:42:28] MESSAGE FOR THE TRUMP AD NISTRATION >> Annou
[01:45:06] [♪♪]
[01:45:14] >> Rosemary: DONALD TRUMP'S TOP
[01:45:15] TRADE NEGOTIATOR SAYS THE U.S.
[01:45:18] REMAINS OPEN TO A DEAL WITH
[01:45:20] CANADA, BUT THERE IS NO SIGN OF
[01:45:23] THAT HAPPENING ANY TIME SOON. >> WE CERTAINLY HAVE TECHNICAL
[01:45:25] TALKS WITH CANADIANS. THE REALITY IS THERE ARE A
[01:45:29] HANDFUL OF OUTSTANDING ISSUES
[01:45:30] THAT ARE QUITE DIFFICULT TO RESOLVE. >> Rosemary: JAMIESON GREER MADE
[01:45:34] THOSE COMMENTS AT THE END OF A
[01:45:37] G20 TRADE MINISTERS' MEETING
[01:45:39] THAT WAS IN MILWAUKEE LAST WEEK.
[01:45:41] CANADA'S MINISTER OF
[01:45:44] INTERNATIONAL TRADE SIDHU MET
[01:45:46] WITH GREER AND HIGHLIGHTED THE
[01:45:49] NEED TO WORK TOGETHER.
[01:45:51] WISCONSIN CONGRESSWOMAN GWEN
[01:45:54] MOORE REPRESENTS A DISTRICT IN MILWAUKEE.
[01:45:56] I SPOKE TO HER ON FRIDAY.
[01:46:00] CONGRESSWOMAN GWEN MOORE, NICE TO SEE YOU.
[01:46:02] THANKS SO MUCH FOR MAKING THE TIME. >> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.
[01:46:05] >> Rosemary: CANADA'S TRADE
[01:46:07] MINISTER WAS IN MILWAUKEE FOR
[01:46:11] THAT TRADE G20 AND HE SAID HE
[01:46:13] WAS APPROACHED BY THIS GROUP OF
[01:46:15] AUTO WORKERS AT A COFFEE SHOP.
[01:46:18] THEY SAW THAT HE HAD HIS CANADA
[01:46:20] FLAG PIN ON AND ASKED HIM ABOUT MOVING PAST THIS TRADE WAR.
[01:46:24] THAT WAS INTERESTING TO ME THAT PEOPLE WERE TALKING ABOUT IT
[01:46:26] SORT OF OUT IN THE WILD AND I'M WONDERING WHAT YOU'RE HEARING
[01:46:29] FROM WORKERS IN MILWAUKEE OR IN WISCONSIN.
[01:46:32] >> WELL, ACTUALLY, THOSE LABOUR
[01:46:36] LEADERS WITH THE UNITED AUTO
[01:46:38] WORKERS ACTUALLY TO MY OFFICE YESTERDAY AS WELL AND THEY'RE
[01:46:42] VERY, VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE
[01:46:49] USMCA, QUITE FRANKLY, BUT THEY'RE ALSO CONCERNED IN A
[01:46:53] UNITARY WAY ABOUT THE TRADE WAR
[01:46:55] THAT WE'VE EXECUTED AGAINST CANADA.
[01:46:58] IT'S BROUGHT A LOT OF CONFUSION
[01:47:00] AND OBVIOUSLY A LOT OF
[01:47:04] CONSTERNATION WITH REGARD TO THE
[01:47:07] INTEGRATION THAT WE'VE COME
[01:47:09] ACCUSTOMED TO WITH CANADA, SOMETHING THAT HAS STABILIZED
[01:47:13] PRICES, STABILIZED EXPECTATIONS.
[01:47:18] AND THEY WERE SORT OF SCRATCHING THEIR HEADS AS TO WHY WE ARE
[01:47:21] HAVING A TRADE WAR WITH CANADA. >> Rosemary: YEAH, I MEAN THERE
[01:47:25] IS A LOT OF HEAD SCRATCHING GOINGEN HERE AS WELL, CONGRESSWOMAN.
[01:47:29] YOU POSTED ON X TO URGE THE
[01:47:31] ADMINISTRATION TO SEIZE THE MOMENT TO ABANDON WHAT YOU CALL
[01:47:35] ITS SENSELESS TRADE WAR. I DON'T THINK THERE WAS ANY
[01:47:39] PROGRESS MADE AT THAT G20 TRADE MEETING.
[01:47:41] WHAT DOES IT TELL YOU ABOUT THE STATE OF PLAY AT THIS MOMENT
[01:47:45] BETWEEN THE TWO COUNTRIES?
[01:47:47] >> WELL, I TELL YOU AT THE
[01:47:50] BEGINNING OF THIS REVIEW PERIOD
[01:47:52] FOR THE USMCA, IT DOES NOT BODE
[01:47:56] WELL THAT THE NEGOTIATE WHO
[01:47:58] NEGOTIATED THE USMCA TO NOW BE
[01:48:01] ABANDONING IT IN PREFERENCE FOR
[01:48:03] HIS TRADE TARIFF WAR ANALYSIS OF
[01:48:08] THE ECONOMY.
[01:48:10] YOU KNOW, FOR EXAMPLE, THE
[01:48:18] SO-CALLED 338 TARIFFS THAT THE
[01:48:22] PRESIDENT HAS IMPOSED ON CANADA,
[01:48:24] LOOKING BACK TO WHAT I THINK A
[01:48:27] 1933 AUTHORITY THAT CONGRESS
[01:48:34] DELEGATED TO THE PRESIDENT TO BE
[01:48:35] ABILLE TO IMPOSE AGAINST COUNTRS
[01:48:39] THAT DISCRIMINATED AGAINST THEM.
[01:48:42] THAT'S ABOUT $27.6 BILLION WORTH
[01:48:52] CANADIANS HAVE ARE SAID THEY ARE
[01:48:55] GOING TO COME BACK DOLLAR FOR
[01:48:58] DOLLAR TO RESPOND TO THOSE TRADE TARIFFS.
[01:49:02] SO I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, I'M
[01:49:05] LOOKING TOWARD GETTING A NEW MAJORITY IN CONGRESS AT LEAST IN
[01:49:08] THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES.
[01:49:11] WE NEED TO LOOK TOWARDS
[01:49:15] MODIFYING OR CLAWING BACK SOME
[01:49:18] OF THAT AUTHORITY UNDER SECTION 338. >> Rosemary: YOU ARE OBVIOUSLY
[01:49:21] RUNNING IN THOSE MIDTERMS AND I THINK THERE IS SOME HOPE IN
[01:49:24] CANADA THAT THE MIDTERMS COULD CHANGE THE ENVIRONMENT AND
[01:49:28] PERHAPS THAT COULD HAPPEN THAT THERE COULD BE A WAY TO INFLUENCE THE TRADE WAR.
[01:49:32] WHAT WOULD THAT LOOK LIKE IF IT WERE TO COME TO FRUITION AFTER THE MIDTERMS?
[01:49:35] >> WELL, I MEAN, FOR ONE THING,
[01:49:39] IF WE COULD SEND A SIGNAL
[01:49:43] BECAUSE THIS MAN WILL BE THE PRESIDENT FOR TWO MORE YEARS,
[01:49:46] BUT IF WE COULD SEND A SIGNAL TO
[01:49:49] CANADA THAT WE WERE, IN FACT,
[01:49:51] TRYING TO REPAIR IT, THAT WOULD
[01:49:55] BE VERY HELPFUL. IT WOULD CERTAINLY PROVIDE SOME
[01:49:58] GUIDANCE TO OUR STATE DEPARTMENT.
[01:50:14] WERE -- IF CANADA SAW THAT WE WERE FIGHTING BACK. >> Rosemary: CONGRESSWOMAN, I
[01:50:18] UNDERSTAND -- THE ECONOMY IS NOT GREAT IN THE UNITED STATES.
[01:50:21] I MEAN, WE ALL KNOW THAT AND
[01:50:24] CERTAINLY DONALD TRUMP'S APPROVAL RATINGS AREN'T GREAT EITHER.
[01:50:28] IS THE TRADE WAR PART OF THE
[01:50:30] MIDTERM CONVERSATION OR IS IT REALLY A LOT MORE ABOUT AFFORDABILITY AND COST OF LIVING
[01:50:33] OR ARE THE TWO CONNECTED IN ANY
[01:50:36] WAY IN TERMS OF WHAT YOU'RE HEARING?
[01:50:39] ? .
[01:50:49] THE IMPACT THIS IS HAVING ON
[01:50:51] THEIR WINE, BUT RIGHT HERE IN
[01:50:53] WISCONSIN, AN ESTIMATED $5.5
[01:50:56] BILLION SINCE JANUARY HAS COST
[01:51:00] OUR -- WISCONSIN AND OUR
[01:51:03] TAXPAYERS $5.5 BILLION.
[01:51:05] AND SO SPEAKING FOR US, THIS IS
[01:51:08] LIKE OVER $2,000 PER HOUSEHOLD
[01:51:15] AND THIS IS JUST SINCE JANUARY.
[01:51:17] $525 MILLION IN ADDITIONAL TARIFFS PAID JUST SINCE JANUARY
[01:51:20] AND THAT INCLUDES EVERYTHING
[01:51:22] FROM LAWNMOWERS TO MOTORCYCLES
[01:51:25] TO APPLIANCES.
[01:51:27] AND I HAVEN'T EVEN MENTIONED THE IMPACT THAT THIS IS HAVING ON
[01:51:31] OUR FARMERS. I DON'T REPRESENT AN AGRICULTURAL PORTION OF THE
[01:51:34] STATE, BUT WISCONSIN IS AN AGRICULTURAL STATE. >> Rosemary: YEAH, OF COURSE.
[01:51:37] >> AND OUR FARMERS ARE SCREAMING.
[01:51:40] >> Rosemary: DO YOU -- JUST THIS WEEK, DONALD TRUMP CALLED
[01:51:44] CANADIAN LEADERS VERY BAD AND
[01:51:46] PETER NAVARRO WHO ADVISES HIM
[01:51:50] SAID ALL SORTS OF THINGS TOO. DO YOU BELIEVE THAT THE
[01:51:53] PRESIDENT WANTS A DEAL WITH CANADA, CONGRESSWOMAN?
[01:51:57] >> IT IS NOT REALLY CLEAR THAT
[01:51:59] HE WANTS A A DEAL WITH CANADA OR
[01:52:02] WITH MEXICO. AGAIN, ONE OF HIS SIGNATURE
[01:52:06] ACCOMPL ACCOMPLISHMENTS AT LEAST HE
[01:52:09] CLAIMED WAS EXECUTING --
[01:52:11] IMPLEMENTING THE USMCA AND NOW
[01:52:14] HE SEEMS TO BE WALKING AWAY FROM
[01:52:17] IT COMPLETELY.
[01:52:21] AND I THINK HE IS -- THIS MAN IS REALLY COMMITTED TO THE NOTIONS
[01:52:25] OF TARIFFS. AND I THINK WHAT WE DON'T KNOW
[01:52:28] IS TO WHAT EXTENT THESE TARIFFS ARE BENEFITTING HIM PERSONALLY.
[01:52:32] I KNOW IT'S NOT BENEFITTING
[01:52:35] WISCONSINITES AT ALL. >> Rosemary: CONGRESSWOMAN GWEN
[01:52:38] MOORE, THANK YOU FOR MAKING THE TIME FOR CANADA TODAY. I APPRECIATE IT VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU. [♪♪
[01:55:18] >> Rosemary: REMEMBER, YOU CAN FOLLOW ALL THE ELECTION NIGHT
[01:55:22] ACTION HERE IN QUEBEC RIGHT HERE ON CBC NEWS NETWORK.
[01:55:25] I WILL BE PART OF THE COVERAGE.
[01:55:27] YOU CAN JOIN CBC MONTREAL HOST
[01:55:29] DEBRA ARBEC AND HER TEAM TO
[01:55:33] BRING YOU THE UP TO THE MINUTE RESULTS.
[01:55:36] THERE WILL BE LOTS OF ANALYSIS AS THAT NIGHT UNFOLDS.
[01:55:39] FIVE PARTIES IN CONTENTION, NONE OF THEM GETTING MORE THAN 30% OF
[01:55:43] THE VOTE IN POPULAR OPINION POLLS.
[01:55:44] THE COVERAGE KICKS OFF AT 7:30
[01:55:47] P.M. EASTERN.
[01:55:50] YOU CAN WATCH IT ON CBC NEWS NETWORK, TV, ND >> You h