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[00:00:21] I'm Adrian Arceneaux, chief correspondent for CBC News. Here's what's making news right now.
[00:00:26] RESPECTED AT THIS TIME, MARIANNE. MARIANNE. >> Marianne: THANKS SO MUCH FOR
[00:00:30] >> Marianne: THANKS SO MUCH FOR THIS, MICHELLE. THIS, MICHELLE. >>> QUEBEC'S PROVINCIAL PARTY >>> QUEBEC'S PROVINCIAL PARTY LEADERS ARE ON THEIR LAST DAY OF
[00:00:35] LEADERS ARE ON THEIR LAST DAY OF CAMPAIGNING BEFORE THE CAMPAIGNING BEFORE THE ELECTIONS, AND THE POLLS SUGGEST
[00:00:38] ELECTIONS, AND THE POLLS SUGGEST THE SEPARATIST PARTI QUÉBÉCOIS
[00:00:40] THE SEPARATIST PARTI QUÉBÉCOIS IS ON TRACK TO FORM GOVERNMENT.
[00:00:42] IS ON TRACK TO FORM GOVERNMENT. THE CBC'S ALEXANDRE SILBERMAN
[00:00:45] THE CBC'S ALEXANDRE SILBERMAN HAS THE DETAILS FROM MONTREAL.
[00:00:51] HAS THE DETAILS FROM MONTREAL. >> IN A CROWDED RACE BETWEEN >> IN A CROWDED RACE BETWEEN FIVE PARTIES, THIS IS THE FINAL FIVE PARTIES, THIS IS THE FINAL DAY.
[00:00:55] DAY. THE PARTI QUÉBÉCOIS IS THE THE PARTI QUÉBÉCOIS IS THE FRONT-RUNNER.
[00:00:57] FRONT-RUNNER. WITH ABOUT 30% OF SUPPORT. WITH ABOUT 30% OF SUPPORT. THEIR LEADER PAUL ST-PIERRE
[00:01:01] THEIR LEADER PAUL ST-PIERRE PLAMONDON CAMPAIGNING FOR CHANGE PLAMONDON CAMPAIGNING FOR CHANGE PROMISING MEASURES LIKE
[00:01:04] PROMISING MEASURES LIKE PROTECTION OF PROTECTION OF THE FRENCH LANGUAGE, FISCAL THE FRENCH LANGUAGE, FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY AND ALSO
[00:01:08] RESPONSIBILITY AND ALSO PROMISING TO HOLD A REFERENDUM PROMISING TO HOLD A REFERENDUM IN THE FIRST MANDATE.
[00:01:11] IN THE FIRST MANDATE. IT'S AN IDEA DEEPLY UNPOPULAR IN
[00:01:13] IT'S AN IDEA DEEPLY UNPOPULAR IN QUEBEC, BUT AN ISSUE MANY ARE
[00:01:16] QUEBEC, BUT AN ISSUE MANY ARE WILLING TO PUT ASIDE FOR NOW IN
[00:01:18] WILLING TO PUT ASIDE FOR NOW IN A DESIRE FOR CHANGE.
[00:01:22] A DESIRE FOR CHANGE. THE C.A.Q., THE COALITION AVENIR
[00:01:28] THE C.A.Q., THE COALITION AVENIR QUÉBEC HAS BEEN IN GOVERNMENT IN QUÉBEC HAS BEEN IN GOVERNMENT IN THIS PROVINCE FOR THE PAST EIGHT
[00:01:31] THIS PROVINCE FOR THE PAST EIGHT YEARS AND TOWARDS THE END OF YEARS AND TOWARDS THE END OF THAT TIME, FORMER PREMIER
[00:01:34] THAT TIME, FORMER PREMIER FRANÇOIS LEGAULT BECAME DEEPLY FRANÇOIS LEGAULT BECAME DEEPLY UNPOPULAR. UNPOPULAR. THE PARTY'S CURRENT LEADER
[00:01:38] THE PARTY'S CURRENT LEADER CHRISTINE FRÉCHETTE HAS CHRISTINE FRÉCHETTE HAS STRUGGLED TO SEPARATE HERSELF.
[00:01:41] STRUGGLED TO SEPARATE HERSELF. THE PARTY TRIED REBRANDING AND
[00:01:42] THE PARTY TRIED REBRANDING AND TAKING ITS LOGO OFF VOTING
[00:01:46] TAKING ITS LOGO OFF VOTING SIGNS AND TRYING TO DISTANCE SIGNS AND TRYING TO DISTANCE ITSELF AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE, BUT
[00:01:49] ITSELF AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S SOMETHING THAT VOTERS HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE THAT VOTERS HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO BUY INTO AND PUT ASIDE.
[00:01:54] TO BUY INTO AND PUT ASIDE. THERE IS A STABLE OPTION.
[00:01:55] THERE IS A STABLE OPTION. THE PARTY ALSO TRYING TO PUT
[00:01:59] THE PARTY ALSO TRYING TO PUT ITSELF FORTH AS A STABLE OPTION ITSELF FORTH AS A STABLE OPTION AMID A U.S. TRADE WAR.
[00:02:03] AMID A U.S. TRADE WAR. A MESSAGE THAT HASN'T RESONATED A MESSAGE THAT HASN'T RESONATED WITH VOTERS.
[00:02:06] WITH VOTERS. WE'VE SEEN THE QUEBEC LIBERAL
[00:02:11] PARTY TRY AND CAMPAIGN ON THAT MESSAGE, TRYING TO POSITION MESSAGE, TRYING TO POSITION ITSELF AS THE ONLY FEDERALIST ITSELF AS THE ONLY FEDERALIST PARTY IN THIS RACE.
[00:02:15] PARTY IN THIS RACE. IT HAS DONE WELL WITH IT HAS DONE WELL WITH ENGLISH-SPEAKING VOTERS IN AND
[00:02:18] ENGLISH-SPEAKING VOTERS IN AND AROUND MONTREAL, BUT STRUGGLED AROUND MONTREAL, BUT STRUGGLED HEAVY TO GAIN SUPPORT WITH
[00:02:21] HEAVY TO GAIN SUPPORT WITH FRANCOPHONE VOTERS IN THE REST FRANCOPHONE VOTERS IN THE REST OF THE PROVINCE AND ALSO TWO OF THE PROVINCE AND ALSO TWO SMALLER PARTIES EXPECTED TO WIN
[00:02:25] SMALLER PARTIES EXPECTED TO WIN SEATS. SEATS. THE CONSERVATIVE PARTY IN AND
[00:02:28] THE CONSERVATIVE PARTY IN AND AROUND QUÉBEC CITY AND THE AROUND QUÉBEC CITY AND THE QUÉBEC SOLIDAIRE WHICH IS
[00:02:31] QUÉBEC SOLIDAIRE WHICH IS EXPECTED TO BE COMPETITIVE IN EXPECTED TO BE COMPETITIVE IN SEVERAL URBAN RIDINGS IN
[00:02:35] SEVERAL URBAN RIDINGS IN MONTREAL, QUÉBEC CITY MONTREAL, QUÉBEC CITY CITY, AND ALSO SHERBROOKE.
[00:02:38] CITY, AND ALSO SHERBROOKE. BOTH OF THOSE PARTIES LOOKING TO BOTH OF THOSE PARTIES LOOKING TO SECURE THEMSELVES IF QUEBECERS
[00:02:41] SECURE THEMSELVES IF QUEBECERS WIN A MINORITY GOVERNMENT.
[00:02:47] WIN A MINORITY GOVERNMENT. NOW IN THE FINAL DAYS OF THE NOW IN THE FINAL DAYS OF THE CAMPAIGN, THE P.Q.
[00:02:50] CAMPAIGN, THE P.Q. SENSING A SHIFT IN THE POLLS. SENSING A SHIFT IN THE POLLS. AND A SLIGHT COLLAPSE IN SUPPORT
[00:02:54] AND A SLIGHT COLLAPSE IN SUPPORT FOR THE P.Q. IS IN THIS ALL-OUT FOR THE P.Q. IS IN THIS ALL-OUT BATTALIONS
[00:02:57] BATTALIONS THEY ARE CRISSCROSSING THE THEY ARE CRISSCROSSING THE PROVINCE TRYING TO SHORE UP
[00:03:00] PROVINCE TRYING TO SHORE UP SUPPORT AND POSSIBLY WIN A SUPPORT AND POSSIBLY WIN A MAJORITY GOVERNMENT WITH JUST MAJORITY GOVERNMENT WITH JUST AROUND 30% OF SUPPORT.
[00:03:04] AROUND 30% OF SUPPORT. A WIN THAT WOULD BE HISTORIC IN
[00:03:05] A WIN THAT WOULD BE HISTORIC IN TERMS OF PERCENTAGE OF SUPPORT TERMS OF PERCENTAGE OF SUPPORT FOR A PARTY THAT FORMS A
[00:03:09] FOR A PARTY THAT FORMS A MAJORITY GOVERNMENT, BUT MAJORITY GOVERNMENT, BUT QUEBECERS WILL HAVE THEIR SAY AS
[00:03:12] QUEBECERS WILL HAVE THEIR SAY AS THEY HEAD TO THE POLLS TOMORROW, THEY HEAD TO THE POLLS TOMORROW, MONDAY, OCTOBER 5th. MONDAY, OCTOBER 5th. ALEXANDRE SILBERMAN, CBC NEWS,
[00:03:16] THANK YOU SO MUCH. THAT IS THE CBC'S SHEEHAN THAT IS THE CBC'S SHEEHAN DESJARDINS IN HAMILTON.
[00:03:20] DESJARDINS IN HAMILTON. IN JUST OVER TWO WEEKS, IN JUST OVER TWO WEEKS, ALBERTANS WILL VOTE ON WHETHER
[00:03:24] ALBERTANS WILL VOTE ON WHETHER TO REMAIN PART OF CANADA OR
[00:03:26] TO REMAIN PART OF CANADA OR TRIGGER A BINDING REFERENDUM ON
[00:03:28] TRIGGER A BINDING REFERENDUM ON LEAVING THE COUNTRY. LEAVING THE COUNTRY. AND CBC NEWS LEARNED THE FEDERAL
[00:03:31] AND CBC NEWS LEARNED THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS PREPARING FOR BOTH GOVERNMENT IS PREPARING FOR BOTH OUTCOMES AND IS CRUNCHING THE
[00:03:34] OUTCOMES AND IS CRUNCHING THE NUMBERS ON THE CONSEQUENCES.
[00:03:37] NUMBERS ON THE CONSEQUENCES. THE CBC'S STEPHANIE CRAM JOINS
[00:03:40] THE CBC'S STEPHANIE CRAM JOINS US FROM EDMONTON. US FROM EDMONTON. SO THERE ARE FEDERAL DOCUMENTS
[00:03:43] SO THERE ARE FEDERAL DOCUMENTS THAT CBC HAS ACQUIRED. THAT CBC HAS ACQUIRED. WHAT DO THEY TELL US?
[00:03:46] WHAT DO THEY TELL US? >> NOW, THE MOSTLY REDACTED >> NOW, THE MOSTLY REDACTED DOCUMENTS ARE DATED BACK TO JUNE
[00:03:50] DOCUMENTS ARE DATED BACK TO JUNE 2026. 2026. SO IT SHOWS THAT THE FEDERAL SO IT SHOWS THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS BEEN QUIETLY
[00:03:54] GOVERNMENT HAS BEEN QUIETLY LOOKING AT THE IMPACTS OF THE LOOKING AT THE IMPACTS OF THE REFERENDUM.
[00:03:56] REFERENDUM. IT SAYS THAT CANADA COULD SEE AN IT SAYS THAT CANADA COULD SEE AN $18 BILLION FISCAL SHOCK IF
[00:04:00] $18 BILLION FISCAL SHOCK IF ALBERTA DECIDES TO LEAVE THE ALBERTA DECIDES TO LEAVE THE COUNTRY. COUNTRY. NOW, AN INTERESTING POINT TO
[00:04:04] NOW, AN INTERESTING POINT TO NOTE IS THAT THE DOCUMENT SAYS
[00:04:06] NOTE IS THAT THE DOCUMENT SAYS THAT REGARDLESS OF THE OUTCOME
[00:04:09] OF THE REFERENDUM, THERE COULD BE AN IMPACT ON THE ECONOMY.
[00:04:11] BE AN IMPACT ON THE ECONOMY. IT LOOKED AT BOTH THE 1995
[00:04:14] IT LOOKED AT BOTH THE 1995 QUEBEC REFERENDUM AND THE 2014
[00:04:17] QUEBEC REFERENDUM AND THE 2014 SCOTTISH REFERENDUM. SCOTTISH REFERENDUM. AND IN BOTH OF THOSE CASES, NO
[00:04:20] AND IN BOTH OF THOSE CASES, NO VOTE WAS SUCCESSFUL, BUT DESPITE VOTE WAS SUCCESSFUL, BUT DESPITE THAT THERE WAS A HIT TO THE
[00:04:23] THAT THERE WAS A HIT TO THE ECONOMIES. ECONOMIES. HERE IN ALBERTA, MOST OF THE
[00:04:27] HERE IN ALBERTA, MOST OF THE POLLS SHOW THAT ALBERTANS WANT POLLS SHOW THAT ALBERTANS WANT ALBERTA TO STAY IN CANADA, BUT
[00:04:30] ALBERTA TO STAY IN CANADA, BUT IT SAYS THAT THERE MIGHT STILL IT SAYS THAT THERE MIGHT STILL BE LINGERING IMPACTS ON THE
[00:04:34] BE LINGERING IMPACTS ON THE ECONOMY.
[00:04:36] ECONOMY. NOW ONE OF THE IMPACTS ARE THE NOW ONE OF THE IMPACTS ARE THE LOSS OF BUSINESSES.
[00:04:39] LOSS OF BUSINESSES. THE REPORT SAYS IN THE DECADES THE REPORT SAYS IN THE DECADES LEADING UP TO THE 1995 QUEBEC
[00:04:43] LEADING UP TO THE 1995 QUEBEC VOTE, 263 CORPORATE HEAD OFFICES
[00:04:45] VOTE, 263 CORPORATE HEAD OFFICES LEFT THE PROVINCE, INCLUDING SUN
[00:04:47] LEFT THE PROVINCE, INCLUDING SUN LIFE INSURANCE, WHICH WAS LIFE INSURANCE, WHICH WAS ORIGINALLY LOCATED IN MONTREAL.
[00:04:51] ORIGINALLY LOCATED IN MONTREAL. THE REPORT ALSO HIGHLIGHTS A THE REPORT ALSO HIGHLIGHTS A STUDY DONE BY THE CALGARY
[00:04:54] STUDY DONE BY THE CALGARY CHAMBER OF COMMERCE WHICH SHOWS CHAMBER OF COMMERCE WHICH SHOWS OVER 50% OF THE BUSINESSES IN
[00:04:58] OVER 50% OF THE BUSINESSES IN THAT CITY HAVE ALREADY SEEN A THAT CITY HAVE ALREADY SEEN A HIT TO THEIR BOTTOM LINE.
[00:05:02] HIT TO THEIR BOTTOM LINE. >> Eli: INTERESTING ALREADY >> Eli: INTERESTING ALREADY SEEING A CHANGE. SEEING A CHANGE. THAT IS QUITE SOMETHING.
[00:05:06] THAT IS QUITE SOMETHING. NOW, I'M NOT ENTIRELY SURPRISED NOW, I'M NOT ENTIRELY SURPRISED TO HEAR ABOUT THE POTENTIAL LOSS
[00:05:09] TO HEAR ABOUT THE POTENTIAL LOSS OF BUSINESS, BUT LET'S ALSO TALK OF BUSINESS, BUT LET'S ALSO TALK ABOUT PEOPLE POWER.
[00:05:12] ABOUT PEOPLE POWER. DID THE REPORT SAY ANYTHING DID THE REPORT SAY ANYTHING ABOUT MIGRATION?
[00:05:15] ABOUT MIGRATION? >> YEAH, YOU MIGHT REMEMBER BACK
[00:05:18] >> YEAH, YOU MIGHT REMEMBER BACK IN 2021, ALBERTA SAW 17,000
[00:05:25] IN 2021, ALBERTA SAW 17,000 WORKERS WITH POST-SECONDARY WORKERS WITH POST-SECONDARY DEGREES MOVE TO THE PROVINCE.
[00:05:28] DEGREES MOVE TO THE PROVINCE. SO VERY HIGHLY SKILLED SO VERY HIGHLY SKILLED INDIVIDUALS.
[00:05:31] INDIVIDUALS. THE REPORT HIGHLIGHTS THE WORRY THE REPORT HIGHLIGHTS THE WORRY IS IF ALBERTA DECIDES TO LEAVE
[00:05:34] IS IF ALBERTA DECIDES TO LEAVE CANADA, THAT THOSE WORKERS MIGHT CANADA, THAT THOSE WORKERS MIGHT BE COMPELLED TO LEAVE THE
[00:05:38] BE COMPELLED TO LEAVE THE PROVINCE AS WELL. PROVINCE AS WELL. NOW, IT SHOULD BE REMINDED THE
[00:05:41] NOW, IT SHOULD BE REMINDED THE VOTE IN OCTOBER IS NOT A BINDING
[00:05:44] VOTE IN OCTOBER IS NOT A BINDING VOTE TO LEAVE THE COUNTRY. VOTE TO LEAVE THE COUNTRY. INSTEAD, ALBERTANS WILL BE ASKED
[00:05:48] INSTEAD, ALBERTANS WILL BE ASKED WHETHER THEY SHOULD STAY IN WHETHER THEY SHOULD STAY IN CANADA OR HOLD A SECOND CANADA OR HOLD A SECOND REFERENDUM FOR THE PROVINCE TO
[00:05:52] REFERENDUM FOR THE PROVINCE TO LEAVE THE COUNTRY. LEAVE THE COUNTRY. SO IT'S HARD TO SAY THE IMPACTS SO IT'S HARD TO SAY THE IMPACTS THAT WE WILL SEE ON BUSINESS AND
[00:05:56] THAT WE WILL SEE ON BUSINESS AND PEOPLE. PEOPLE. WE MIGHT HAVE TO SEE THAT IN THE WE MIGHT HAVE TO SEE THAT IN THE COMING YEARS.
[00:06:00] COMING YEARS. >> Eli: GREAT TO HEAR THIS
[00:08:03] EMERGING FROM THE AUTHORITIES IN THE UAE WHO ARE LEADING THIS
[00:08:08] THE UAE WHO ARE LEADING THIS INVESTIGATION. INVESTIGATION. IT IS ONE OF THE FIRST TIME THEY
[00:08:10] IT IS ONE OF THE FIRST TIME THEY HAVE USED THE WORD TERRORISM IN
[00:08:12] HAVE USED THE WORD TERRORISM IN RELATION TO THIS INCIDENT.
[00:08:15] ACCORDING TO REUTERS AND THE ASSOCIATED PRESS, THE UAE ASSOCIATED PRESS, THE UAE PROSECUTOR GENERAL SAID THE
[00:08:17] PROSECUTOR GENERAL SAID THE COPILOT OF FLY DUBAI 1073 TRY TO
[00:08:22] COPILOT OF FLY DUBAI 1073 TRY TO TAKE CONTROL OF THE PLANE AND TAKE CONTROL OF THE PLANE AND CARRY OUT A TERRORIST ATTACK
[00:08:25] CARRY OUT A TERRORIST ATTACK WHICH WE NOW KNOW WAS THWARTED
[00:08:27] WHICH WE NOW KNOW WAS THWARTED BY THE PASSENGERS WHO INTERVENE.
[00:08:33] BY THE PASSENGERS WHO INTERVENE. INVESTIGATORS ARE STILL COMBING INVESTIGATORS ARE STILL COMBING THROUGH EVIDENCE AND WORKING TO
[00:08:36] THROUGH EVIDENCE AND WORKING TO ESTABLISH A MOTIVE. ESTABLISH A MOTIVE. THE UAE HASN'T NAMED THE SUSPECT
[00:08:40] THE UAE HASN'T NAMED THE SUSPECT BUT MULTIPLE MEDIA OUTLETS BUT MULTIPLE MEDIA OUTLETS HAVE.
[00:08:42] HAVE. THEY SAY HE IS A NATIONAL OF
[00:08:46] THEY SAY HE IS A NATIONAL OF OMAN. OMAN. THE ASSOCIATED PRESS SAYS HE HAD
[00:08:49] THE ASSOCIATED PRESS SAYS HE HAD PREVIOUSLY WORKED FOR OMAN AIR PREVIOUSLY WORKED FOR OMAN AIR BUT HAD BEEN REMOVED OF A -- AS
[00:08:54] BUT HAD BEEN REMOVED OF A -- AS A PILOT BECAUSE OF HIS EXTREMIST A PILOT BECAUSE OF HIS EXTREMIST VIEWS.
[00:08:58] VIEWS. THAT LEAVES BIG QUESTIONS FOR THAT LEAVES BIG QUESTIONS FOR FLY DUBAI ABOUT HOW THEY VETTED
[00:09:01] FLY DUBAI ABOUT HOW THEY VETTED HIM AND HOW HE WAS ALLOWED TO HIM AND HOW HE WAS ALLOWED TO FLY ON A ROUTE TO ISRAEL.
[00:09:04] FLY ON A ROUTE TO ISRAEL. ISRAEL DOES NOT ALLOW PILOTS
[00:09:06] ISRAEL DOES NOT ALLOW PILOTS INTO ITS AIRSPACE IF THEY COME
[00:09:09] INTO ITS AIRSPACE IF THEY COME FROM COUNTRIES THAT DON'T HAVE FROM COUNTRIES THAT DON'T HAVE DIPLOMATIC RELATIONS WITH ISRAEL
[00:09:11] DIPLOMATIC RELATIONS WITH ISRAEL AND THAT INCLUDES OMAN. AND THAT INCLUDES OMAN. THE UAE'S PROSECUTOR GENERAL
[00:09:15] THE UAE'S PROSECUTOR GENERAL ALSO REVEALED THE WEAPON THAT ALSO REVEALED THE WEAPON THAT WAS USED.
[00:09:18] WAS USED. IT WAS A CRASH ASK.
[00:09:20] IT WAS A CRASH ASK. WE CAN SHOW YOU WHAT IT CAN LOOK
[00:09:23] WE CAN SHOW YOU WHAT IT CAN LOOK LIKE. LIKE. THIS IS THE ONE FROM THE FLY THIS IS THE ONE FROM THE FLY DUBAI PLANE.
[00:09:27] DUBAI PLANE. IT ILLUSTRATES WHAT KIND OF IT ILLUSTRATES WHAT KIND OF WEAPON WAS USED.
[00:09:29] WEAPON WAS USED. THEY ARE FOUND IN THE COCKPITS
[00:09:32] THEY ARE FOUND IN THE COCKPITS OF PLANES FOR EMERGENCIES. OF PLANES FOR EMERGENCIES. IF A PLANE OR TO CRASH AND THE
[00:09:36] IF A PLANE OR TO CRASH AND THE DOORS OR WINDOWS WERE STUCK THAN DOORS OR WINDOWS WERE STUCK THAN A CRASH ASK COULD BE USED TO
[00:09:40] A CRASH ASK COULD BE USED TO BREAK THEM DOWN AND HELP PILOTS
[00:09:41] BREAK THEM DOWN AND HELP PILOTS ESCAPE THE COCKPIT.
[00:09:45] ESCAPE THE COCKPIT. IT COULD BE REVIEWED AFTER THIS
[00:09:49] IT COULD BE REVIEWED AFTER THIS INCIDENT.
[00:09:51] INCIDENT. IT BECAME THE PRACTICE AFTER
[00:09:53] IT BECAME THE PRACTICE AFTER 9/11 BUT AFTER THIS CASE, THE
[00:09:56] 9/11 BUT AFTER THIS CASE, THE PASSENGER SURVIVED AND THE
[00:09:58] PASSENGER SURVIVED AND THE CAPTAIN WAS ABLE TO UNLOCK THE
[00:10:00] CAPTAIN WAS ABLE TO UNLOCK THE COCKPIT AND ALLOW THE PASSENGERS COCKPIT AND ALLOW THE PASSENGERS TO COME TO HIS AID.
[00:10:04] TO COME TO HIS AID. IF HE HAD BEEN UNABLE TO DO THAT
[00:10:07] It is absolutely shocking that the people on this plane
[00:10:10] survived.
[00:10:13] Look, this is video taken by a
[00:10:15] passenger. Pure panic onboard fly Dubai flight 1073 after the
[00:10:20] copilot of the plane allegedly stabbed the pilot. The entire
[00:10:24] plane at this point at grave risk of crashing and everyone
[00:10:29] was screaming, there were children crying.
[00:10:32] Except a whole series of things happen. Highly improbable,
[00:10:36] almost impossible, it seems to me
[00:10:40] as a commercial.
[00:10:45] All of these incredible things together end up saving
[00:10:48] everybody's life against all odds. And I'm going to show you
[00:10:52] how
[00:10:57] there were more than 170 people on board this flight,
[00:11:01] which is a daily flight running from Dubai International in the
[00:11:05] United Arab Emirates to Ben Gurion International near Tel
[00:11:09] Aviv in Israel. This is what that flight path normally looks
[00:11:13] like. It's about a three hour flight,
[00:11:15] except on September 30th, things would take a very abrupt
[00:11:19] turn here. But when I say abrupt turn,
[00:11:22] I don't mean left or right, I mean down.
[00:11:24] At around 8:21 AM local time over Saudi airspace,
[00:11:28] the plane lost altitude more than 17,
[00:11:31] 000 feet in under a minute and it speed up dramatically as it
[00:11:35] pitched towards the earth
[00:11:39] Jordanian border. Suddenly the aircraft dropped a massive
[00:11:43] massive turbulence for 2030 seconds. We know now what was
[00:11:47] happening around this time was the planes copilot allegedly
[00:11:52] attacking the planes captain nearly killing him. The
[00:11:55] struggle beginning after he stabbed the other pilot and
[00:11:59] sent the jet plunging thousands of meters in just seconds. At
[00:12:04] this point, with the attacker taking
[00:12:06] control, potentially looking to crash
[00:12:09] the plane, the only way that people on
[00:12:12] board survive is if the captain survives. And improbably,
[00:12:15] he does. This is him, Captain Smith Matcha from India.
[00:12:19] He somehow manages to survive a surprise attack from an armed
[00:12:23] assailant in close quarters while flying a plane. But he's
[00:12:27] down and in a real bad way. One of the passengers,
[00:12:31] a dentist would later tell CNN. Much other suffered massive
[00:12:35] blood loss, was severely wounded. He was
[00:12:38] covered in cuts, his head,
[00:12:39] his hands, they were practically sliced
[00:12:42] open, almost severed in two.
[00:12:44] Historically when 1 pilot turns on the other. There are clear
[00:12:48] examples where this ends in disaster for everybody on board.
[00:12:52] In 2015, Germanwings flight 9525,
[00:12:55] the copilot locks the captain out of the cockpit when he
[00:12:59] leaves to use the bathroom. He then manually steers the plane
[00:13:03] into a rapid descent, crashing into the French Alps.
[00:13:06] Everybody on board dies. Or just a couple years before that,
[00:13:11] in 2013, same thing, except this time it's the
[00:13:14] captain on a flight from Mozambique who locks the
[00:13:17] copilot out of the cockpit. He crashes the plane into a
[00:13:21] National Park in Namibia, once again killing everybody on
[00:13:24] board. But this time, Captain Matcha survives the
[00:13:28] attack from his copilot and manages to do one other
[00:13:31] incredible thing that's single handedly triggers a series of
[00:13:35] events that keep that plane in the air.
[00:13:43] So imagine the copilot is believed to have attacked the
[00:13:47] captain with some sort of stabbing weapon,
[00:13:50] leaves him bleeding on the ground. I've seen multiple
[00:13:54] reports that he was so grievously wounded he was on
[00:13:57] the verge of passing out completely even that he did at
[00:14:01] one point, but just before he did he
[00:14:04] somehow unlocks the cockpit door. They redesigned airplanes
[00:14:08] to, in fact, create
[00:14:09] this impenetrable door between the cabin and the cockpit. That
[00:14:13] door remains locked from the incident. Problem with
[00:14:17] yesterday is that the threat did not come from the cabinet.
[00:14:20] This is the critical point at which the entire arc of this
[00:14:24] crisis pivots. It's where passengers begin to realize not
[00:14:28] just that something has gone terribly wrong,
[00:14:30] but that they can do something about it.
[00:14:34] The plane just started going up and down,
[00:14:37] says 1 passenger. We started hearing screams. The plane,
[00:14:40] according to those on board, nose dived at a sickening angle.
[00:14:44] Overhead bins popped open and luggage flew out. Other
[00:14:47] accounts spoke of incredible G forces almost pinning
[00:14:51] passengers to their seats as the plane itself plunged and
[00:14:54] leveled repeatedly. It was like the craziest Holocaust that you
[00:14:58] ever did, but like, multiplied by
[00:15:01] father. It felt like something really wrong is happening here.
[00:15:06] So for some passengers to have overcome this chaos and to have
[00:15:10] the instinct to burst into the cockpit to see what was wrong,
[00:15:14] Yet another incredible development,
[00:15:17] without which I don't know how this plane survives. Eventually,
[00:15:21] one man bursts in and grabs the assailant, the copilot,
[00:15:25] from behind. Yes,
[00:15:29] the first Beta beta message.
[00:15:35] That's one of the many heroes of this story. By all accounts,
[00:15:39] wrestling control of the plane from the alleged hijacker
[00:15:43] happened very quickly. The dentist I mentioned earlier,
[00:15:46] he says he tied the attacker up using headphone cords and
[00:15:50] plastic zip ties. He then started tending to the wounded
[00:15:54] pilot. He was in serious condition, not critical,
[00:15:57] perhaps, but serious due to the massive
[00:16:00] blood loss. And that would have looked like
[00:16:03] and a warn you this is the most graphic part of the story
[00:16:07] because it's at this point we have video of the state of the
[00:16:11] lanes captain as he's lying injured on the floor.
[00:16:15] But this was the scene you're looking at. 2 bloodied pilots
[00:16:19] on the floor on this passenger jet in mid air,
[00:16:22] passengers holding one of them down,
[00:16:25] treating the other. The reason I show that to you is because I
[00:16:29] want you to understand how unreal this all would have felt
[00:16:33] to everybody on board. And yet we have yet another improbable
[00:16:37] act from the very same passenger who claims to have
[00:16:40] subdued the attacker in the 1st place. He single handedly pulls
[00:16:45] the plane out of its nose dive.
[00:16:48] Uh,
[00:16:50] yeah.
[00:16:53] He would later reveal he learned that move from TV shows
[00:16:56] pulling on the pilot steering column,
[00:16:59] the yoke to pitch the planes nose up. They actually pull up
[00:17:03] the stick the the airplane stick. The plane was decreasing
[00:17:06] in very, very sharp angle. It is a
[00:17:09] tricky maneuver, you know, not normal or a commercial
[00:17:12] airliner to be in that flight position to be nose down at 600
[00:17:16] miles an hour. But even all this,
[00:17:18] as improbable as it all is put together,
[00:17:21] only leads to yet another impossible question.
[00:17:25] How do you land a plane when you have no pilot?
[00:17:33] In a normal emergency, if such a thing even exists,
[00:17:36] the pilot is doing more than just flying the plane and
[00:17:40] landing it. They are the planes eyes and ears,
[00:17:43] navigating weather patterns, how much fuel they've got left,
[00:17:47] and which runways are even available and safe. There was
[00:17:51] nothing but desert beneath US1 passenger told CNN. We feared
[00:17:56] being taken to an enemy country or landing in the middle of the
[00:18:00] desert. We didn't know who to trust. Now,
[00:18:03] if this were a Hollywood movie, the scripted stroke of luck
[00:18:07] here would be that someone on board is simply bold enough to
[00:18:11] do something like land a plane that they've never done before
[00:18:15] and it just happens to work out. But in real life,
[00:18:18] there just happened to be another set of pilots on board,
[00:18:22] an off duty British pilot along with another, together,
[00:18:26] a pair of relief pilots who were meant to fly the next
[00:18:30] flight
[00:18:31] was fortunate that they were on an airplane that had this extra
[00:18:35] deadheading crew, as we call it. You know,
[00:18:38] but to actually jump into a pilot seat when you've got
[00:18:42] another pilot next to you that potentially was suicidal and
[00:18:46] the captain of the aircraft neutralized as well was
[00:18:50] absolutely heroic action. Those 2 pilots took control of the
[00:18:54] plane, diverted to an airport not in
[00:18:56] Israel where they were originally going,
[00:18:59] but in nearby Saudi Arabia instead.
[00:19:02] Which interestingly is a country Israel has no formal
[00:19:05] diplomatic relations with, but that years ago did open its
[00:19:09] airspace. 2 passenger planes flying to and from Israel. So
[00:19:13] they had control of the plane and a safe runway to land on.
[00:19:17] But there was still one more problem. The plane was badly
[00:19:21] damaged. When I saw the images of the aircraft on the ground
[00:19:26] with the rudder section torn out,
[00:19:28] I immediately had a cold chill. If you've ever looked at the
[00:19:32] back of a plane,
[00:19:34] you know what that vertical tail looks like. But what's a
[00:19:37] little more subtle than that is the rudder,
[00:19:39] which is this movable flap that controls the side to side
[00:19:43] swinging of the lanes nose. It's basically stabilizing the
[00:19:46] plane. If you RIP that out, as you can see in these photos
[00:19:50] here of this fly Dubai flight shortly after emergency landing,
[00:19:54] you have two problems. 1 is that you're possibly bleeding
[00:19:57] hydraulic fluid out all over the place,
[00:20:00] which affects a whole bunch of other systems on the plane. But
[00:20:03] two,
[00:20:05] landing becomes more dangerous. Letters are the key element of
[00:20:08] aircraft stability, particularly at landing. And in
[00:20:11] this case the runner was not there. The airplane went
[00:20:15] through extensive aerodynamic shot. All of the experts I've
[00:20:19] heard on this believe it was the planes nosedive. We
[00:20:22] mentioned at the start that sudden steep descent that
[00:20:26] likely applied enormous aerodynamic forces to the tail,
[00:20:29] enough to RIP that part of the rudder right off. But somehow
[00:20:33] those two relief pilots
[00:20:35] managed to land the plane regardless,
[00:20:41] so now investigators have their work cut out for them. Why did
[00:20:45] this copilot hijack the plane, and what was he trying to do?
[00:20:49] Did he improvise the weapon he used,
[00:20:51] or did he smuggle it on board? And Speaking of getting on
[00:20:55] board, should intelligence or law
[00:20:57] enforcement officers have known to apprehend him before he got
[00:21:02] on that plane? Those answers will hopefully
[00:21:04] come with time, but all we know now is that
[00:21:07] this plane load of passengers somehow pulled off the
[00:21:11] impossible. The captain surviving A devastating attack,
[00:21:14] managing with his last sliver of consciousness to open the
[00:21:18] cockpit door, allowing passengers undergoing
[00:21:21] extreme G forces to storm that cockpit, subdue the attacker,
[00:21:25] pull the plane out of the nosedive just in time. And then
[00:21:28] they just happened to have a pair of pilots on hand who
[00:21:32] grabbed the controls, find a safe runway to land on,
[00:21:35] and manage to do so with a severely damaged rudder in a
[00:21:39] plane that no inspector would ever consider airworthy.
[00:21:42] I don't know what you call that, but as terrible and traumatic
[00:21:47] as it was for everyone involved, those folks undeniably got very,
[00:21:52] very lucky.
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[00:22:02] scrolling at 3:00 AM. Choose headlines that scream truth,
[00:22:06] fake friends, deep fakes, and comic wars that never end.
[00:22:10] Choose the chaos. Choose the noise
[00:22:14] or don't. Choose news that's checked, verified,
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[00:22:27] not noise.
[00:24:35] The story of 10s of thousands of Ukrainian children who have
[00:24:38] been abducted to Russia, given new families and new
[00:24:42] names,
[00:24:43] subjected to heavy indoctrination and even
[00:24:46] military training to turn them into Russian soldiers. For
[00:24:50] years we have been fighting to bring our children home. So
[00:24:54] it's horrible, horrible situation and
[00:24:57] childhood has an expiration date. How Canada is leading an
[00:25:02] international effort to help. Want to be clear at the outset
[00:25:07] of who's responsible? Putin has stolen Ukrainian
[00:25:11] children.
[00:25:14] Russia's campaign to steal Ukrainian children began back
[00:25:18] in 2014, when Putin first used Russian
[00:25:21] soldiers in unmarked uniforms to take over the Crimean
[00:25:24] Peninsula.
[00:25:26] Daria to Machova and Matt Fichas were children in Crimea
[00:25:30] at that time, but have a clear memory of the
[00:25:33] event.
[00:25:35] So you bought the dinner. Despite the fact that I was a
[00:25:38] child, I still understood and I
[00:25:40] understood that something terrible is happening,
[00:25:43] that this is not just a change in the law,
[00:25:45] but it's actually an occupation. It is really a great military
[00:25:49] crime. They said to us, you're Russian now,
[00:25:52] You lived all of your life in Russia. A lot of stuff changed.
[00:25:57] We start to learn Russian anthem at school,
[00:26:00] learn Russian songs, learn Russian poems,
[00:26:03] Scotian Rockham. Every year indoctrination became worse and
[00:26:07] worse. It was constant. It was in the textbooks. It was also
[00:26:11] in our free time. It was both at school,
[00:26:14] on the street and on TV.
[00:26:17] Russia's child stealing campaign became even more
[00:26:20] pronounced after the full scale invasion of Ukraine in 2022.
[00:26:25] Rostislav, from the Herson region,
[00:26:28] was 16 when Russian soldiers occupied his hometown. He was
[00:26:32] interviewed by UA TV in Ukraine.
[00:26:36] I went out and at first I was scared. They said you're being
[00:26:39] sent away to study. I told them I did not want to,
[00:26:42] that I'd rather stay home. After I said that,
[00:26:44] a soldier pointed his rifle at me and said pack your things,
[00:26:48] you're leaving now.
[00:26:50] Many Ukrainian children were herded into military style
[00:26:53] camps in Russia, where they faced relentless
[00:26:56] indoctrination.
[00:26:58] We had to stand for the Russian anthem,
[00:27:00] listen to them go on about how great Russia was,
[00:27:03] and if I didn't sing the Russian anthem,
[00:27:05] I was punished. They'd take you and put you in an isolation
[00:27:08] cell.
[00:27:09] As the children got older, the military training
[00:27:14] intensified. A military training started from my 6th
[00:27:19] grade. We have loading, reloading weapons. Of course,
[00:27:24] as we have March courses, we go to military camps and we
[00:27:30] have our uniform as a guidance
[00:27:34] visco.
[00:27:36] The military training for the boys was to fight with their
[00:27:40] weapons and the girls were involved in medical and
[00:27:43] tactical medicine training. You had to be able to tamp. You had
[00:27:46] to stop the bleeding.
[00:27:48] The wartime abduction of children is a clear crime under
[00:27:52] the Geneva Convention. But Vladimir Putin wasn't trying to
[00:27:56] hide his child kidnapping operation. In fact,
[00:27:58] he was bragging about it.
[00:28:02] He met frequently and publicly with Maria Lavrova Belova,
[00:28:06] the Russian Presidential Commissioner for Children's
[00:28:10] Rights, who was in charge of the
[00:28:12] abduction Operation Lavovi Belova had herself filmed
[00:28:15] leading groups of Ukrainian children onto aircraft and
[00:28:19] occupied eastern Ukraine, and she personally adopted one
[00:28:23] of them herself. She noticed that many of them were very pro
[00:28:27] Ukrainian and anti Putin.
[00:28:30] Just thought they spoke badly about the president,
[00:28:33] said nasty things and sang Ukraine's anthem. This stupid
[00:28:36] Ukrainian. She even complained that one child she personally
[00:28:40] adopted was showing signs of resistance.
[00:28:43] See that he didn't want to live in Russia. He was always on pro
[00:28:47] Ukrainian websites. Whenever I saw it, I'd tell him, listen,
[00:28:50] you're in Russia now, you need to change your
[00:28:53] attitude somehow.
[00:28:56] Many child abduction victims made desperate attempts to
[00:28:59] contact relatives in Ukraine to beg for rescue,
[00:29:02] Bought in your Mohet from Mariupol,
[00:29:05] even sent a videotaped message to President Zelensky. Yeah,
[00:29:09] I bogged in your Mohan ask you, Vladimir Alexandrovich to help
[00:29:13] me return home. Even before turning 18,
[00:29:16] Bogdan had received his draft notice into the Russian army.
[00:29:20] If your man and you turn 18 years old,
[00:29:23] they almost immediately drafted you to Russian army.
[00:29:30] The Save Ukraine Foundation is a non governmental group
[00:29:33] devoted to tracking down and rescuing Ukrainian children.
[00:29:38] This Ukrainian documentary shows how children are often
[00:29:41] given different Russian names and hidden away in rural areas
[00:29:45] of Russia. But to find them, the Save Ukraine Foundation
[00:29:48] uses facial recognition technology to scour the
[00:29:51] Internet for group photos and documents that might reveal
[00:29:55] their location.
[00:29:57] In a rare case, Bogdan your Mohan was released
[00:30:00] from Russia and reunited with his sister in Ukraine.
[00:30:05] The Russians offered to trade. We give them soldiers and they
[00:30:08] give us children. That's beyond comprehension,
[00:30:10] beyond international law.
[00:30:13] Ukrainian human rights activist and Nobel Peace Prize winner
[00:30:16] Oleksandra Matvichuk. When I speak about small kid,
[00:30:20] like two or three-year old, it means that Justin
[00:30:23] several months or years, this kid would forget his or
[00:30:28] her real name, his or her real father and
[00:30:31] mother. So it's horrible, horrible situation and
[00:30:35] childhood has an expiration date. Their children from
[00:30:39] occupied territories, they're losing their childhood.
[00:30:44] We lose this children. So we have doubled our efforts to
[00:30:48] save them. Canada to do this. Mikula Kuleba is the founder of
[00:30:53] the Save Ukraine organization. We are running out of time