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STELCO SAYS IT IS GOING STELCO SAYS IT IS GOING AHEAD WITH HUNDREDS OF [00:00:37] AHEAD WITH HUNDREDS OF LAYOFFS AT ITS HAMILTON LAYOFFS AT ITS HAMILTON STEEL PLANT. [00:00:41] STEEL PLANT. THAT'S DESPITE THREATS OF THAT'S DESPITE THREATS OF LEGAL CONSEQUENCES FROM [00:00:44] LEGAL CONSEQUENCES FROM FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. >> FAILING IT FOLLOW THEIR [00:00:47] >> FAILING IT FOLLOW THEIR COMMITMENTS -- FAILING TO COMMITMENTS -- FAILING TO FOLLOW THEIR COMMITMENTS [00:00:50] FOLLOW THEIR COMMITMENTS WILL RESULT BY ACTIONS BY WILL RESULT BY ACTIONS BY THE GOVERNMENT, AND SO [00:00:54] THE GOVERNMENT, AND SO BASICALLY, MY POINT IS THEY BASICALLY, MY POINT IS THEY NEED TO COMPLY. [00:00:56] NEED TO COMPLY. IF NOT, WE WILL USE FULL IF NOT, WE WILL USE FULL FORCE OF THE LAW. [00:01:00] FORCE OF THE LAW. >> Deana: INDUSTRY MINISTER >> Deana: INDUSTRY MINISTER MELANIE JOLY ISSUED AN [00:01:03] MELANIE JOLY ISSUED AN ULTIMATUM TO STELCO EARLIER ULTIMATUM TO STELCO EARLIER THIS WEEK. [00:01:06] THIS WEEK. SHE GAVE STELCO'S AMERICAN SHE GAVE STELCO'S AMERICAN PARENT FIVE DAYS SHARE A [00:01:09] PARENT FIVE DAYS SHARE A PLAN TO SAVE UP TO 500 JOBS PLAN TO SAVE UP TO 500 JOBS OR FACE LEGAL ACTION. [00:01:12] OR FACE LEGAL ACTION. BUT IN A LETTER OBTAINED BY BUT IN A LETTER OBTAINED BY CBC NEWS, STELCO ARGUES IT [00:01:16] CBC NEWS, STELCO ARGUES IT HAS NOT VIALATEED ITS HAS NOT VIALATEED ITS EMPLOYMENT COMMITMENT, AND [00:01:19] EMPLOYMENT COMMITMENT, AND THAT COMPANY IS DEALING WITH THAT COMPANY IS DEALING WITH FACTORS, QUOTE, BEYOND ITS [00:01:22] FACTORS, QUOTE, BEYOND ITS CONTROL, NAMELY U.S. CONTROL, NAMELY U.S. TARIFFS. [00:01:25] TARIFFS. THE GOVERNMENT SAYS THE GOVERNMENT SAYS FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE WAS FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE WAS OFFERED, BUT STELCO REFUSED. [00:01:29] OFFERED, BUT STELCO REFUSED. AND WE HAVE JUST RECEIVED A AND WE HAVE JUST RECEIVED A RESPONSE FROM THE FEDERAL RESPONSE FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, A FURTHER [00:01:33] GOVERNMENT, A FURTHER RESPONSE, THAT IS. RESPONSE, THAT IS. THE OFFICE FOR MINISTER JOLY [00:01:35] THE OFFICE FOR MINISTER JOLY SAYS, QUOTE, GOVERNMENT OF SAYS, QUOTE, GOVERNMENT OF CANADA CONTINUES TO EXPECT [00:01:38] CANADA CONTINUES TO EXPECT STELCO TO MEET ITS LEGALLY STELCO TO MEET ITS LEGALLY BINDING COMMITMENTS TO BINDING COMMITMENTS TO EMPLOYEES. [00:01:42] EMPLOYEES. THESE COMMITMENTS WERE THESE COMMITMENTS WERE AGREED UPON AS UNDERTAKINGS [00:01:46] AGREED UPON AS UNDERTAKINGS IN THE INVESTMENT IN CANADA IN THE INVESTMENT IN CANADA ACT, AND DID NOT CEASE TO [00:01:49] ACT, AND DID NOT CEASE TO COMPLY BECAUSE OF CHANGING COMPLY BECAUSE OF CHANGING BUSINESS STRATEGY OR BUSINESS STRATEGY OR MARKETING CONDITIONS. [00:01:53] MARKETING CONDITIONS. AS OUR LEGAL TEAM YOU'RE WATCHING CBC NEWS NETWORK. MARIANNE DIMAIN. [00:01:57] NETWORK. MARIANNE DIMAIN. ALBERTA IS CLOSING IN ON A MARIANNE DIMAIN. ALBERTA IS CLOSING IN ON A DECISION WITH THE POWER TO SHAPE [00:02:01] ALBERTA IS CLOSING IN ON A DECISION WITH THE POWER TO SHAPE THE FUTURE OF THIS COUNTRY. DECISION WITH THE POWER TO SHAPE THE FUTURE OF THIS COUNTRY. IT IS JUST ONE WEEK TO GO BEFORE [00:02:05] ON SEPARATING FROM THE COUNTRY. PREMIER DANIELLE SMITHED S SAYSF [00:02:11] PREMIER DANIELLE SMITHED S SAYSF THE MAJORITY OF VOTERS REJECT THE MAJORITY OF VOTERS REJECT SEPARATION, SHE'LL CONSIDER THE [00:02:14] SEPARATION, SHE'LL CONSIDER THE MATTER CLOSED. [00:02:18] MATTER CLOSED. CBC NEWS CHIEF POLITICAL CBC NEWS CHIEF POLITICAL CORRESPONDENT ADRIENNE ARSENAULT [00:02:21] CORRESPONDENT ADRIENNE ARSENAULT SPOKE WITH THE PREMIER IN [00:02:25] SPOKE WITH THE PREMIER IN CALGARY. [00:02:28] CALGARY. >> Reporter: THANK YOU VERY >> Reporter: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MUCH. REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. [00:02:32] REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. A MOMENT WITH PREMIER DANIELLE A MOMENT WITH PREMIER DANIELLE SMITH AND CLARITY ON A QUESTION SMITH AND CLARITY ON A QUESTION THAT LINGERS. [00:02:35] THAT LINGERS. WHAT HAPPENS THE DAY AFTER THE WHAT HAPPENS THE DAY AFTER THE REFERENDUM? [00:02:38] REFERENDUM? IF IT COMES TO BE THAT A IF IT COMES TO BE THAT A MAJORITY OF ALBERTANS VOTE [00:02:41] MAJORITY OF ALBERTANS VOTE OPTION ONE TO KEEP ALBERTA IN OPTION ONE TO KEEP ALBERTA IN CANADA, WILL YOU COMMIT TO NOT [00:02:45] CANADA, WILL YOU COMMIT TO NOT HOLDING A BINDING REFERENDUM? HOLDING A BINDING REFERENDUM? >> CORRECT. >> CORRECT. YEAH. [00:02:48] YEAH. I MEAN, THAT'S TO ME WHAT OPTION I MEAN, THAT'S TO ME WHAT OPTION ONE MEANS. [00:02:51] ONE MEANS. IF YOU VOTE TO REMAIN IN CANADA, [00:02:53] IF YOU VOTE TO REMAIN IN CANADA, THEN YOU ARE REJECTING OPTION THEN YOU ARE REJECTING OPTION TWO, WHICH IS TO START THE LEGAL [00:02:57] TWO, WHICH IS TO START THE LEGAL PROCESS TO HOLD A BINDING PROCESS TO HOLD A BINDING REFERENDUM. [00:02:59] REFERENDUM. SO THAT'S HOW I WOULD TAKE IT. SO THAT'S HOW I WOULD TAKE IT. >> Reporter: THIS WON'T CROP UP >> Reporter: THIS WON'T CROP UP AGAIN? [00:03:03] AGAIN? >> NOT AS LONG AS I'M PREMIER. >> NOT AS LONG AS I'M PREMIER. >> Reporter: NOT AS LONG AS SHE [00:03:06] >> Reporter: NOT AS LONG AS SHE IS PREMIER. IS PREMIER. IN A ONE-ON-ONE INTERVIEW WITH [00:03:09] IN A ONE-ON-ONE INTERVIEW WITH "THE NATIONAL," SMITH RULING OUT [00:03:12] A SECOND REFERENDUM IF THE MAJORITY OF ALBERTANS VOTE TO MAJORITY OF ALBERTANS VOTE TO REMAIN IN CANADA IN JUST OVER A [00:03:15] REMAIN IN CANADA IN JUST OVER A WEEK'S TIME. [00:03:20] WEEK'S TIME. [HONKING] [HONKING] THOSE PUSHING FOR SEPARATIST THOSE PUSHING FOR SEPARATIST WON'T STOP NO MATTER THE RESULT. [00:03:24] WON'T STOP NO MATTER THE RESULT. >> I WILL ACCEPT THE RESULTS FOR >> I WILL ACCEPT THE RESULTS FOR WHAT THEY ARE. [00:03:27] WHAT THEY ARE. THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE'RE GOING TO [00:03:30] THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE'RE GOING TO QUIT IF WE DON'T LIKE THEM. QUIT IF WE DON'T LIKE THEM. >> CANADA IS WORKING BETTER THAN [00:03:33] >> CANADA IS WORKING BETTER THAN IT EVER HAS. [00:03:40] IT EVER HAS. SEPARATION ISN'T THE ONLY SEPARATION ISN'T THE ONLY QUESTION ON THE BALLOT. QUESTION ON THE BALLOT. NINE OTHERS IF ALL SUPPORTED BY [00:03:43] NINE OTHERS IF ALL SUPPORTED BY SMITH. SMITH. WHAT WOULD BE THE PERCENTAGE TO WHAT WOULD BE THE PERCENTAGE TO THE R-FOR THE OTHER NINE [00:03:47] THE R-FOR THE OTHER NINE QUESTIONS, THOUGH? QUESTIONS, THOUGH? >> AGAIN I BELIEVE IN DEMOCRACY. >> AGAIN I BELIEVE IN DEMOCRACY. I BELIEVE A MAJORITY RULE SEEMS [00:03:51] I BELIEVE A MAJORITY RULE SEEMS TO BE THE WAY THAT MOST TO BE THE WAY THAT MOST DECISIONS ARE MADE. [00:03:54] DECISIONS ARE MADE. AND SO IF THEY'RE REJECTED, I AND SO IF THEY'RE REJECTED, I WOULD ACCEPT THAT. [00:03:57] WOULD ACCEPT THAT. SO I'M HOPING TO GET OVER 50%. SO I'M HOPING TO GET OVER 50%. >> Reporter: OKAY. >> Reporter: OKAY. THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO BE CLEAR [00:04:01] THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO BE CLEAR ON. ON. 50%. 50%. >> HAS TO BE OVER 50%. [00:04:04] >> HAS TO BE OVER 50%. IF THEY'RE REJECTED, YOU KNOW IF THEY'RE REJECTED, YOU KNOW WHAT, WE'LL HAVE TO PURSUE OTHER [00:04:08] WHAT, WE'LL HAVE TO PURSUE OTHER THINGS -- FIND OUT OTHER THINGS [00:04:10] THINGS -- FIND OUT OTHER THINGS ALBERTANS ARE CONCERNED ABOUT. [00:04:13] ALBERTANS ARE CONCERNED ABOUT. >> Reporter: ALBERTA IS A YEAR >> Reporter: ALBERTA IS A YEAR OUT FROM ANOTHER PROVINCIAL [00:04:17] OUT FROM ANOTHER PROVINCIAL ELECTION. ELECTION. THE U.C.P. CONVENTION HAD ROCKY THE U.C.P. CONVENTION HAD ROCKY MOMENTS FOR THE PREMIER. [00:04:20] MOMENTS FOR THE PREMIER. >> FEEL A LOT MORE CONFIDENT [00:04:22] >> FEEL A LOT MORE CONFIDENT THAN CANADA WORKS THAN A COUPLE [00:04:27] OF DAYS AGO. [BOOING] [BOOING] >> Reporter: NOW AS THEN THE >> Reporter: NOW AS THEN THE SEPARATIST VOICES WITHIN HER OWN [00:04:30] SEPARATIST VOICES WITHIN HER OWN PARTY ARE LOUD. PARTY ARE LOUD. POLLING SUGGESTING JUST OVER [00:04:33] POLLING SUGGESTING JUST OVER HALF OF U.C.P. VOTERS ARE NOW AT [00:04:35] HALF OF U.C.P. VOTERS ARE NOW AT ODDS WITH HER POSITION ON THE ODDS WITH HER POSITION ON THE UNITY QUESTION. [00:04:39] UNITY QUESTION. AND WHILE SMITH SAYS SHE SPEAKS AND WHILE SMITH SAYS SHE SPEAKS WITH PEOPLE ON BOTH SIDES, WHEN [00:04:42] WITH PEOPLE ON BOTH SIDES, WHEN IT COMES TO SEPARATIST LEADERS IT COMES TO SEPARATIST LEADERS -- -- >> AS YOU'VE PROBABLY SEEN, I'M [00:04:46] >> AS YOU'VE PROBABLY SEEN, I'M KIND OF PUBLIC ENEMY NUMBER ONE KIND OF PUBLIC ENEMY NUMBER ONE FOR THE GROUP. FOR THE GROUP. THEY DON'T LIKE THE FACT THAT [00:04:50] THEY DON'T LIKE THE FACT THAT I'VE TAKEN SUCH A STRONG I'VE TAKEN SUCH A STRONG POSITION ON REMAIN. POSITION ON REMAIN. NO, I'M NOT IN CONTACT WITH ANY [00:04:54] NO, I'M NOT IN CONTACT WITH ANY OF THEM. OF THEM. >> Reporter: HER POSITION FOR [00:04:56] >> Reporter: HER POSITION FOR ALBERTA TO REMAIN IN. ALBERTA TO REMAIN IN. >> David: IS WHAT THE MAJORITY >> David: IS WHAT THE MAJORITY OF ALBERTANS CONSISTENTLY OF ALBERTANS CONSISTENTLY BELIEVE [00:05:02] What kind of future do Albertans want for their [00:05:05] province? The upcoming referendum will [00:05:08] reveal where voters stand on the ballot is whether to stay [00:05:11] in Canada to seek more provincial powers over [00:05:14] immigration or whether to push for constitutional change. To [00:05:18] learn what the choices mean for you, for Albertans, [00:05:22] and for all Canadians, stay tuned to CBC News for full [00:05:25] coverage. The Alberta referendum October 19th. Make [00:05:29] an informed choice. [00:05:34] >> Natasha: HELLO, EVERYONE. I'M NATASHA FATAH. I'M NATASHA FATAH. YOU ARE WATCHING CBC NEWS YOU ARE WATCHING CBC NEWS NETWORK. [00:05:37] NETWORK. WE CONTINUE TO TRACK THE WE CONTINUE TO TRACK THE BREAKING NEWS COMING OUT OF [00:05:41] BREAKING NEWS COMING OUT OF SAUDI ARABIA WHERE THERE ARE SAUDI ARABIA WHERE THERE ARE REPORTS OF SEVERAL INJURIES [00:05:44] REPORTS OF SEVERAL INJURIES AFTER A MISSILE HIT A PASSENGER AFTER A MISSILE HIT A PASSENGER TERMINAL AT THE INTERNATIONAL [00:05:47] TERMINAL AT THE INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT. AIRPORT. AARON COLLINS IS FOLLOWING THE AARON COLLINS IS FOLLOWING THE STORY FOR US AND ALL THE [00:05:51] STORY FOR US AND ALL THE BREAKING DEVELOPMENTS. BREAKING DEVELOPMENTS. FORTUNATELY, YOU ARE JOINING US FORTUNATELY, YOU ARE JOINING US IN STUDIO TODAY. [00:05:55] IN STUDIO TODAY. I APPRECIATE IT. [00:05:58] I APPRECIATE IT. VERY FEW DETAILS ARE COMING UP. VERY FEW DETAILS ARE COMING UP. >> Reporter: WE ARE DIGGING INTO [00:06:01] >> Reporter: WE ARE DIGGING INTO IT RIGHT NOW. IT RIGHT NOW. THIS IS JUST UNFOLDING AS WE [00:06:04] THIS IS JUST UNFOLDING AS WE SPEAK. SPEAK. WE HAVE NOT HEARD FROM THE SAUDI WE HAVE NOT HEARD FROM THE SAUDI GOVERNMENT ABOUT THIS APPARENT [00:06:08] GOVERNMENT ABOUT THIS APPARENT ATTACK AT THE INTERNATIONAL ATTACK AT THE INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT. [00:06:11] AIRPORT. WE ARE HEARING FROM THE CANADIAN WE ARE HEARING FROM THE CANADIAN GOVERNMENT. [00:06:14] GOVERNMENT. THEY HAVE BEEN POSTING ON LINE. THEY HAVE BEEN POSTING ON LINE. CANADIANS WHO ARE IN SAUDI [00:06:17] CANADIANS WHO ARE IN SAUDI ARABIA ARE ADVISED THAT ONGOING [00:06:19] ARABIA ARE ADVISED THAT ONGOING ACTIVITY HAS AFFECTED OPERATIONS [00:06:21] ACTIVITY HAS AFFECTED OPERATIONS AT THE AIRPORT. AT THE AIRPORT. IT IS RESULTING IN TRAVEL [00:06:24] IT IS RESULTING IN TRAVEL DISRUPTIONS. DISRUPTIONS. CANADIANS ARE ADVISED TO AVOID [00:06:27] CANADIANS ARE ADVISED TO AVOID ALL TRAVEL TO THE AIRPORT DUE TO [00:06:30] ALL TRAVEL TO THE AIRPORT DUE TO THE SECURITY SITUATION. [00:06:33] THE SECURITY SITUATION. WE ARE HEARING FROM NEWS [00:06:35] WE ARE HEARING FROM NEWS AGENCIES WITH A LITTLE BIT MORE AGENCIES WITH A LITTLE BIT MORE CONTEXT. [00:06:39] CONTEXT. THEY ARE HEARING A LARGE BOOM [00:06:42] THEY ARE HEARING A LARGE BOOM AND EMERGENCY VEHICLES WERE [00:06:45] AND EMERGENCY VEHICLES WERE HEARING ABOUT EVERYTHING. [00:06:51] HEARING ABOUT EVERYTHING. PASSENGERS ARE BEING ADVISED NOT PASSENGERS ARE BEING ADVISED NOT TO GO THERE WITHOUT CHECKING [00:06:54] TO GO THERE WITHOUT CHECKING THEIR FLIGHTS FIRST. [00:06:57] THEIR FLIGHTS FIRST. >> Natasha: ABSOLUTELY. >> Natasha: ABSOLUTELY. THERE HAS BEEN RECENT ATTACKS. [00:07:00] THERE HAS BEEN RECENT ATTACKS. THIS IS A CENTRAL AIRPORT IN A [00:07:02] THIS IS A CENTRAL AIRPORT IN A KEY OUT -- AND A KEY ALLY FOR [00:07:04] KEY OUT -- AND A KEY ALLY FOR THE UNITED STATES AT THIS TIME. THE UNITED STATES AT THIS TIME. >> Reporter: IT IS A HUB AND IT [00:07:08] >> Reporter: IT IS A HUB AND IT HAS BEEN HIT SEVERAL TIMES IN HAS BEEN HIT SEVERAL TIMES IN THE LAST WEEK. [00:07:12] THE LAST WEEK. TWO DAYS AGO, WE HAD SEPARATE TWO DAYS AGO, WE HAD SEPARATE ATTACKS THAT WERE LAUNCHED BY [00:07:14] ATTACKS THAT WERE LAUNCHED BY REBELS FROM YEMEN. [00:07:18] REBELS FROM YEMEN. THE CONTEXT OF THE SITUATION IS THE CONTEXT OF THE SITUATION IS THE SAUDI GOVERNMENT IS BACKING [00:07:21] THE SAUDI GOVERNMENT IS BACKING DO YOU MANY GOVERNMENT AND THE [00:07:24] DO YOU MANY GOVERNMENT AND THE REBELS ARE BEING ACT BY IRAN. [00:07:26] REBELS ARE BEING ACT BY IRAN. ALL OF THIS TIES INTO THE ALL OF THIS TIES INTO THE REGIONAL DISRUPTION THAT WE HAVE [00:07:29] REGIONAL DISRUPTION THAT WE HAVE WITH THE U.S. WAR IN IRAN. [00:07:32] WITH THE U.S. WAR IN IRAN. WE DID JUST HEAR FROM DONALD [00:07:36] WE DID JUST HEAR FROM DONALD TRUMP. TRUMP. >> Reporter: HAVE YOU DECIDED [00:07:38] >> Reporter: HAVE YOU DECIDED WHETHER TO JOIN THE SAUDI HIS? WHETHER TO JOIN THE SAUDI HIS? >> President Trump: WE WILL LOOK [00:07:41] >> President Trump: WE WILL LOOK AT IT. AT IT. WE JUST FOUND OUT ABOUT THE WE JUST FOUND OUT ABOUT THE RECENT ATTACK. [00:07:45] RECENT ATTACK. WE WILL MAKE A DECISION. [00:07:46] WE WILL MAKE A DECISION. WE MOVE VERY QUICKLY. [00:07:50] WE MOVE VERY QUICKLY. >> Reporter: MOVING VERY >> Reporter: MOVING VERY QUICKLY, OBVIOUSLY. [00:07:53] QUICKLY, OBVIOUSLY. THERE HAD IN A CEASE-FIRE THERE HAD IN A CEASE-FIRE BETWEEN THESE GROUPS THAT HAD [00:07:56] BETWEEN THESE GROUPS THAT HAD JUST STARTED TO UNRAVEL IN THE JUST STARTED TO UNRAVEL IN THE SUMMER. [00:07:59] SUMMER. THIS IS A SENSE THAT THINGS ARE THIS IS A SENSE THAT THINGS ARE HEATING UP IN THE REGION BUT IN [00:08:02] HEATING UP IN THE REGION BUT IN THAT DISPUTE IN YEMEN [00:08:06] LUCKILY FOR US NOBODY HAS BEEN HURT. HURT. >> Marianne: IN OTHER NEWS, U.S. [00:08:09] >> Marianne: IN OTHER NEWS, U.S. PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP IT'S DEAL PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP IT'S DEAL FOR RUSSIA TO SUPPLY DIESEL TO [00:08:12] FOR RUSSIA TO SUPPLY DIESEL TO THE UNITED STATES IS SPARKING THE UNITED STATES IS SPARKING OUTRAGE IN UKRAINE. [00:08:16] OUTRAGE IN UKRAINE. HE MADE THE ANNOUNCEMENT [00:08:17] HE MADE THE ANNOUNCEMENT YESTERDAY MARKING A MAJOR PIVOT. [00:08:20] YESTERDAY MARKING A MAJOR PIVOT. UKRAINIAN PRESIDENT ZELENSKYY UKRAINIAN PRESIDENT ZELENSKYY CALLS THE MOVE A GIFT TO [00:08:24] CALLS THE MOVE A GIFT TO VLADIMIR PUTIN IN THE MIDST OF VLADIMIR PUTIN IN THE MIDST OF RUSSIA'S WAR. RUSSIA'S WAR. FOR MORE LET'S BRING IN THE [00:08:28] FOR MORE LET'S BRING IN THE CBC'S JULIA CHAPMAN FROM LONDON CBC'S JULIA CHAPMAN FROM LONDON THIS MORNING. [00:08:30] THIS MORNING. JULIA, WHAT MORE ARE WE HEARING [00:08:33] FROM UKRAINE ON THIS DEAL? >> Reporter: WELL, MARIANNE, >> Reporter: WELL, MARIANNE, THERE IS CERTAINLY OUTRAGE [00:08:36] THERE IS CERTAINLY OUTRAGE ACROSS THE COUNTRY. ACROSS THE COUNTRY. PRESIDENT ZELENSKYY SAYING THIS [00:08:39] PRESIDENT ZELENSKYY SAYING THIS IS A GIFT TO RUSSIA THAT WILL BE IS A GIFT TO RUSSIA THAT WILL BE REPAID WITH TERROR. [00:08:42] REPAID WITH TERROR. IN A STATEMENT, THE UKRAINIAN IN A STATEMENT, THE UKRAINIAN PRESIDENT SAYS ANY EASING OF [00:08:45] PRESIDENT SAYS ANY EASING OF SANCTIONS WITHOUT A CLEAR AND SANCTIONS WITHOUT A CLEAR AND LAST BEING DE-ESCALATION [00:08:48] LAST BEING DE-ESCALATION AGREEMENT IS AN OBVIOUS AGREEMENT IS AN OBVIOUS WEAKNESS. WEAKNESS. IT PLAYS INTO RUSSIA'S HANDS, [00:08:52] IT PLAYS INTO RUSSIA'S HANDS, ALLOWING IT TO KILL MORE, WAGE ALLOWING IT TO KILL MORE, WAGE WAR FOR LONGER, HAVE EVEN LESS [00:08:56] WAR FOR LONGER, HAVE EVEN LESS RESPECT FOR AMERICA AND INFLICT RESPECT FOR AMERICA AND INFLICT GREATER DAMAGE. [00:09:00] GREATER DAMAGE. THIS IS A DEAL TO EXPORT [00:09:02] THIS IS A DEAL TO EXPORT MILLIONS TONNES OF DIESEL FROM [00:09:07] MILLIONS TONNES OF DIESEL FROM RUSSIA TO THE UNITED STATES AND RUSSIA TO THE UNITED STATES AND THE GLOBAL MARKET. [00:09:09] THE GLOBAL MARKET. IT IS JUST WEEKS AFTER PRESIDENT IT IS JUST WEEKS AFTER PRESIDENT TRUMP SIGNED LEGISLATION THAT [00:09:13] TRUMP SIGNED LEGISLATION THAT WOULD IMPOSE TARIFFS ON [00:09:15] WOULD IMPOSE TARIFFS ON COUNTRIES IMPORTING ENERGY FROM COUNTRIES IMPORTING ENERGY FROM RUSSIA. [00:09:18] RUSSIA. NOW THE U.S. IS GOING TO BE NOW THE U.S. IS GOING TO BE DOING JUST THAT. [00:09:21] DOING JUST THAT. BUT, OF COURSE AHEAD OF THE BUT, OF COURSE AHEAD OF THE MID-TERM ELECTIONS PRESIDENT [00:09:24] MID-TERM ELECTIONS PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS BEEN SEARCHING FOR TRUMP HAS BEEN SEARCHING FOR WAYS TO BRING DOWN THE COST OF [00:09:28] WAYS TO BRING DOWN THE COST OF FUEL, PARTICULARLY DIESEL WHICH FUEL, PARTICULARLY DIESEL WHICH IS AT NEAR RECORD HIGHS BECAUSE [00:09:32] IS AT NEAR RECORD HIGHS BECAUSE OF THE WARS IN IRAN AND UKRAINE. OF THE WARS IN IRAN AND UKRAINE. ONE OF THE WAYS HE'S BEEN [00:09:36] ONE OF THE WAYS HE'S BEEN LOOKING TO DO THAT IS BY URGING [00:09:37] LOOKING TO DO THAT IS BY URGING UKRAINE TO STOP ATTACKING UKRAINE TO STOP ATTACKING RUSSIAN ENERGY INFRASTRUCTURE. [00:09:41] RUSSIAN ENERGY INFRASTRUCTURE. KYIV SAYS IT WON'T DO THAT KYIV SAYS IT WON'T DO THAT UNLESS IT RECEIVES A SIMILAR UNLESS IT RECEIVES A SIMILAR PROMISE FROM MOSCOW. [00:09:45] PROMISE FROM MOSCOW. IT INSISTS IT IS ACTING IN IT INSISTS IT IS ACTING IN SELF-DEFENSE. [00:09:49] SELF-DEFENSE. BUT BECAUSE OF THOSE UKRAINIAN BUT BECAUSE OF THOSE UKRAINIAN ATTACKS ON DIESEL FACILITIES [00:09:51] ATTACKS ON DIESEL FACILITIES INSIDE RUSSIA, THERE ARE INSIDE RUSSIA, THERE ARE QUESTIONS AS TO WHETHER RUSSIA [00:09:54] QUESTIONS AS TO WHETHER RUSSIA CAN ACTUALLY PROVIDE THE SUPPLY CAN ACTUALLY PROVIDE THE SUPPLY IT IS PROMISING. [00:09:57] IT IS PROMISING. AND EXPERTS ALSO SAY EVEN IF IT AND EXPERTS ALSO SAY EVEN IF IT DOES, THIS IS MOSTLY A DROP IN [00:10:01] DOES, THIS IS MOSTLY A DROP IN THE OCEAN AND IT WOULDN'T HAVE A THE OCEAN AND IT WOULDN'T HAVE A HUGE IMPACT ON GLOBAL PRICES. [00:10:05] HUGE IMPACT ON GLOBAL PRICES. MARIANNE. MARIANNE. >> Marianne: JULIA, WHAT IS THE >> Marianne: JULIA, WHAT IS THE IMPACT THEN ON THE EFFORTS TO [00:10:09] IMPACT THEN ON THE EFFORTS TO END THE WAR IN UKRAINE? END THE WAR IN UKRAINE? >> Reporter: WELL, THE [00:10:12] >> Reporter: WELL, THE ANNOUNCEMENT OF THIS DEAL CAME ANNOUNCEMENT OF THIS DEAL CAME AS UKRAINIAN NEGOTIATORS WERE IN [00:10:15] AS UKRAINIAN NEGOTIATORS WERE IN MIAMI HOLDING TALKS WITH MIAMI HOLDING TALKS WITH AMERICAN OFFICIALS AIMED AT [00:10:19] AMERICAN OFFICIALS AIMED AT ENDING THE WAR IN UKRAINE. ENDING THE WAR IN UKRAINE. THIS DEAL IS A BIT OF A SLAP IN [00:10:23] THIS DEAL IS A BIT OF A SLAP IN THE FACE TO THOSE EFFORTS. THE FACE TO THOSE EFFORTS. PRESIDENT ZELENSKYY SAYS HE [00:10:26] PRESIDENT ZELENSKYY SAYS HE BELIEVES HIS TEAM WAS BEING USED BELIEVES HIS TEAM WAS BEING USED AS A SMOKESCREEN, SOMETHING HE [00:10:30] AS A SMOKESCREEN, SOMETHING HE DESCRIBES AS UNFAIR. DESCRIBES AS UNFAIR. IN HIS STATEMENT, PRESIDENT [00:10:33] IN HIS STATEMENT, PRESIDENT TRUMP MADE NO MENTION OF UKRAINE [00:10:35] TRUMP MADE NO MENTION OF UKRAINE WHEN HE WAS ANNOUNCING THIS WHEN HE WAS ANNOUNCING THIS DIESEL DEAL. [00:10:39] DIESEL DEAL. THE KREMLIN DOES SAY, THOUGH, THE KREMLIN DOES SAY, THOUGH, THAT IN THEIR PHONE CALL, [00:10:42] THAT IN THEIR PHONE CALL, PRESIDENT TRUMP DID SAY TO PRESIDENT TRUMP DID SAY TO PRESIDENT PUTIN HE WAS OFFERING [00:10:45] PRESIDENT PUTIN HE WAS OFFERING A FEW SUGGESTIONS AS TO HOW TO [00:10:47] A FEW SUGGESTIONS AS TO HOW TO DE-ESCALATE THE CONFLICT IN DE-ESCALATE THE CONFLICT IN UKRAINE. [00:10:51] UKRAINE. THE KREMLIN SAYS THAT PUTIN THE KREMLIN SAYS THAT PUTIN RESPONDED WITH UNDERSTANDING. [00:10:54] RESPONDED WITH UNDERSTANDING. NOW IT'S NOT CLEAR WHAT THAT NOW IT'S NOT CLEAR WHAT THAT REALLY WILL AMOUNT TO, BECAUSE [00:10:57] REALLY WILL AMOUNT TO, BECAUSE WE ARE STILL SEEING RUSSIAN WE ARE STILL SEEING RUSSIAN ATTACKS AGAINST UKRAINE. [00:11:00] ATTACKS AGAINST UKRAINE. THERE ARE POWER OUTAGES IN KYIV THERE ARE POWER OUTAGES IN KYIV TODAY. [00:11:02] TODAY. ZELENSKYY SAYS 12 PEOPLE HAVE ZELENSKYY SAYS 12 PEOPLE HAVE NOW BEEN CONFIRMED DEAD IN AN [00:11:05] NOW BEEN CONFIRMED DEAD IN AN ATTACK ON A RESIDENTIAL BUILDING ATTACK ON A RESIDENTIAL BUILDING IN ZAPORIZHZHIA. [00:11:09] IN ZAPORIZHZHIA. CERTAINLY WE HAVE BEEN SEEING CERTAINLY WE HAVE BEEN SEEING ATTACKS BECOME INCREASINGLY [00:11:12] ATTACKS BECOME INCREASINGLY INTENSE AND LETHAL. INTENSE AND LETHAL. PRESIDENT ZELENSKYY SAYS THAT [00:11:15] PRESIDENT ZELENSKYY SAYS THAT THIS ATTACK THIS MORNING WAS HOW THIS ATTACK THIS MORNING WAS HOW RUSSIA WAS EXPRESSING ITS THANKS [00:11:18] RUSSIA WAS EXPRESSING ITS THANKS FOR THE LIFTING OF SANCTIONS. FOR THE LIFTING OF SANCTIONS. >> Marianne: THE CBC'S JULIA [00:11:27] [♪♪] >> Natasha: WE ARE FOLLOWING THE >> Natasha: WE ARE FOLLOWING THE LATEST ON A POWERFUL STORM [00:11:31] LATEST ON A POWERFUL STORM PUSHING INTO THE SOUTHEASTERN PUSHING INTO THE SOUTHEASTERN UNITED STATES. [00:11:33] UNITED STATES. IT HAS WEAKENED TO A POST [00:11:36] IT HAS WEAKENED TO A POST TROPICAL CYCLONE AFTER MAKING [00:11:38] TROPICAL CYCLONE AFTER MAKING LANDFALL AS A CATEGORY TWO [00:11:41] LANDFALL AS A CATEGORY TWO HURRICANE. [00:11:44] HURRICANE. THE STORM MADE LANDFALL NEAR [00:11:48] THE STORM MADE LANDFALL NEAR DESTIN, FLORIDA, LAST NIGHT. [00:11:50] DESTIN, FLORIDA, LAST NIGHT. IMPACT WINS OF 170 KILOMETRES IMPACT WINS OF 170 KILOMETRES PER HOUR LASHING COMMUNITIES IN [00:11:54] PER HOUR LASHING COMMUNITIES IN THE PANHANDLE. [00:11:56] THE PANHANDLE. HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE [00:11:58] HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE ARE STILL WITHOUT POWER. [00:12:01] ARE STILL WITHOUT POWER. LINDA WARD IS TRACKING THE STORY LINDA WARD IS TRACKING THE STORY FOR US. [00:12:04] FOR US. THEY ARE HEARING FROM BOTH THE THEY ARE HEARING FROM BOTH THE STATES AND THE OFFICIALS. [00:12:08] STATES AND THE OFFICIALS. WHAT HAPPENED? WHAT HAPPENED? >> Reporter: TWO PEOPLE HAVE [00:12:11] >> Reporter: TWO PEOPLE HAVE DIED IN THE STORM. [00:12:12] DIED IN THE STORM. ONE IN FLORIDA AND ONE IN [00:12:15] ONE IN FLORIDA AND ONE IN ALABAMA, BIRMINGHAM, ALABAMA. ALABAMA, BIRMINGHAM, ALABAMA. THE FIRE RESCUE SERVICE [00:12:19] THE FIRE RESCUE SERVICE CONFIRMING TWO PEOPLE WERE CONFIRMING TWO PEOPLE WERE TRAPPED IN A HOME AND ONE HAS [00:12:22] TRAPPED IN A HOME AND ONE HAS DIED AFTER A TREE FELL ON THE DIED AFTER A TREE FELL ON THE HOME. [00:12:25] HOME. THE ONE IN FLORIDA AS WELL, THE [00:12:27] THE ONE IN FLORIDA AS WELL, THE GOVERNOR CONFIRMING IT WAS GOVERNOR CONFIRMING IT WAS CAUSED BY A TREE THAT FELL ON [00:12:31] CAUSED BY A TREE THAT FELL ON THE HOME. [00:12:33] THE HOME. CASEY LOOK ARE IS THE PUBLIC [00:12:36] CASEY LOOK ARE IS THE PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICER FOR THE INFORMATION OFFICER FOR THE COUNTY. [00:12:39] COUNTY. >> WE ARE SEEING A LOT OF DOWNED [00:12:41] >> WE ARE SEEING A LOT OF DOWNED TREES THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY [00:12:45] TREES THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY RIGHT NOW. RIGHT NOW. DOWNED POWER LINES, A LOT OF [00:12:49] DOWNED POWER LINES, A LOT OF TREES ON HOUSES. TREES ON HOUSES. FIRST RESPONDERS HAVE HAD TO [00:12:53] FIRST RESPONDERS HAVE HAD TO PERFORM RESCUE OPERATIONS. PERFORM RESCUE OPERATIONS. WE DO HAVE ONE CONFIRMED [00:12:55] WE DO HAVE ONE CONFIRMED FATALITY FROM THE STORM. [00:12:58] FATALITY FROM THE STORM. I HAVEN'T HEARD OF ANY OTHERS. [00:13:05] I HAVEN'T HEARD OF ANY OTHERS. >> Reporter: THIS IS A POST >> Reporter: THIS IS A POST TROPICAL CYCLONE. [00:13:07] TROPICAL CYCLONE. IT DID MAKE LANDFALL AROUND IT DID MAKE LANDFALL AROUND 9:30 PM LAST NIGHT AS A CATEGORY [00:13:11] 9:30 PM LAST NIGHT AS A CATEGORY TWO HURRICANE. TWO HURRICANE. WE WILL SHOW YOU THE FORCE OF [00:13:14] WE WILL SHOW YOU THE FORCE OF THE WINS THAT RIPPED THE ROOF [00:13:17] THE WINS THAT RIPPED THE ROOF OFF OF THIS HOTEL. OFF OF THIS HOTEL. IT KNOCKED OFF POWER TO ABOUT [00:13:21] IT KNOCKED OFF POWER TO ABOUT 900,000 HOMES. [00:13:23] 900,000 HOMES. IT IS MAKING ITS WAY IN LAND. [00:13:29] IT IS MAKING ITS WAY IN LAND. WIND SPEEDS DOWN. [00:13:34] WIND SPEEDS DOWN. THE THREAT OF THAT THE THREAT OF THAT LIFE-THREATENING STORM SURGE AND [00:13:37] LIFE-THREATENING STORM SURGE AND THE WATER WILL RESEED AND THERE [00:13:40] THE WATER WILL RESEED AND THERE IS STILL HEAVY RAIN AND FLOODING [00:13:46] IS STILL HEAVY RAIN AND FLOODING FOR THE POTENTIAL OF THE FOR THE POTENTIAL OF THE SOUTHEAST SOUTHEAST. SOUTHEAST SOUTHEAST. >> Natasha: LET'S TALK ABOUT [00:13:50] >> Natasha: LET'S TALK ABOUT HURRICANE SIMON. HURRICANE SIMON. IT IS MAKING ITS WAY TOWARDS IT IS MAKING ITS WAY TOWARDS MEXICO. [00:13:54] MEXICO. WHAT ARE YOU WATCHING FOR? WHAT ARE YOU WATCHING FOR? >> Reporter: IT IS A CATEGORY [00:13:57] >> Reporter: IT IS A CATEGORY FROM FROM. FROM FROM. A MUCH STRONGER HURRICANE. [00:14:00] A MUCH STRONGER HURRICANE. I WILL SHOW YOU MAZATLAN AS IT [00:14:02] I WILL SHOW YOU MAZATLAN AS IT IS GETTING READY FOR IT. [00:14:04] IS GETTING READY FOR IT. THE NASCA -- THE NATIONAL [00:14:06] THE NASCA -- THE NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTRE SAYS SIMON IS HURRICANE CENTRE SAYS SIMON IS INTENSIFYING. [00:14:10] INTENSIFYING. 240 KILOMETRES PER HOUR WIND. 240 KILOMETRES PER HOUR WIND. PREPARATION TO PROTECT LIFE AND [00:14:14] PREPARATION TO PROTECT LIFE AND PROPERTY SHOULD BE RUSHED TO PROPERTY SHOULD BE RUSHED TO COMPLETION IN THE HURRICANE [00:14:17] COMPLETION IN THE HURRICANE WARNING AREA. WARNING AREA. WE WILL SHOW YOU THE PATH THAT [00:14:20] WE WILL SHOW YOU THE PATH THAT THE HURRICANE IS WELL EXPECTED [00:14:22] THE HURRICANE IS WELL EXPECTED TO MAKE LANDFALL LATER TODAY. [00:14:27] TO MAKE LANDFALL LATER TODAY. TROPICAL STORM WINDS BEING SEEN [00:14:41] >> Marianne: ALL RIGHT. THANKS SO MUCH, LINDA. THANKS SO MUCH, LINDA. OFFICIALS ARE ASSESSING THE [00:14:43] OFFICIALS ARE ASSESSING THE DAMAGE IN PANAMA AFTER A 7.7 DAMAGE IN PANAMA AFTER A 7.7 MAGNITUDE EARTHQUAKE STRUCK [00:14:47] MAGNITUDE EARTHQUAKE STRUCK YESTERDAY. [00:14:48] YESTERDAY. THE POWERFUL QUAKE DESTROYED [00:14:52] THE POWERFUL QUAKE DESTROYED BUILDINGS. BUILDINGS. THE U.S. GEOLOGICAL SURVEY SAYS [00:14:54] THE U.S. GEOLOGICAL SURVEY SAYS THE EPICENTER WAS A RURAL AREA THE EPICENTER WAS A RURAL AREA ABOUT 200 KILOMETRES FROM THE [00:14:58] ABOUT 200 KILOMETRES FROM THE CAPITAL. CAPITAL. SEVERAL BUILDINGS IN ONE TOWN SEVERAL BUILDINGS IN ONE TOWN COLLAPSED, INCLUDING A CHURCH [00:15:02] COLLAPSED, INCLUDING A CHURCH TOWER AND HOTEL. TOWER AND HOTEL. DESPITE THE STRENGTH OF THE [00:15:05] DESPITE THE STRENGTH OF THE QUAKE AND DOZENS OF AFTERSHOCKS, [00:15:07] QUAKE AND DOZENS OF AFTERSHOCKS, IT STRIGGERRED, NO DEATH -- IT [00:15:11] IT STRIGGERRED, NO DEATH -- IT TRIGGERED, NO DEATHS HAVE BEEN TRIGGERED, NO DEATHS HAVE BEEN REPORTED. REPORTED. ONE CANADIAN IN PANAMA [00:15:15] ONE CANADIAN IN PANAMA EXPERIENCED ONE OF THE EXPERIENCED ONE OF THE AFTERSHOCKS DURING THE AFTERSHOCKS DURING THE INTERVIEW. [00:15:18] INTERVIEW. >> YOU KNOW, EVERY TIME NOW YOU >> YOU KNOW, EVERY TIME NOW YOU FEEL A SMALL ONE, YOU BRACE [00:15:21] FEEL A SMALL ONE, YOU BRACE YOURSELF AND, YOU KNOW FOR ROLL YOUR EYES IS THIS THE BIG ONE, RIGHT. [00:15:25] RIGHT. BUT COMING HOME ON OUR DRIVE [00:15:27] BUT COMING HOME ON OUR DRIVE HOME I GUESS THE BIGGEST THING HOME I GUESS THE BIGGEST THING YOU NOTICE IS EVERYBODY -- WE'RE [00:15:31] YOU NOTICE IS EVERYBODY -- WE'RE HAVING ANOTHER ONE RIGHT NOW. [00:15:32] HAVING ANOTHER ONE RIGHT NOW. I HAVE GOT TO WALK. [00:15:38] I HAVE GOT TO WALK. >> OKAY. [00:15:46] BE VERY CAREFUL, PLEASE. >> THERE WE GO. [00:15:49] >> THERE WE GO. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. YEAH, THE BIGGEST THING WHEN WE [00:15:51] YEAH, THE BIGGEST THING WHEN WE WERE COMING HOME IS WE DROVE BY WERE COMING HOME IS WE DROVE BY ONE OF THE LOCAL FIRE [00:15:55] ONE OF THE LOCAL FIRE DEPARTMENTS. DEPARTMENTS. AND THAT BUILDING SUSTAINED A AND THAT BUILDING SUSTAINED A LOT OF DAMAGE. [00:15:58] LOT OF DAMAGE. A LOT. A LOT. >> PHIL, I JUST HAVE TO ASK YOU. [00:16:01] >> PHIL, I JUST HAVE TO ASK YOU. PHIL, I HAVE TO STOP YOU AND ASK PHIL, I HAVE TO STOP YOU AND ASK YOU. YOU. IS THERE AN EARTHQUAKE HAPPENING [00:16:05] IS THERE AN EARTHQUAKE HAPPENING RIGHT NOW? RIGHT NOW? WHAT EXACTLY ARE YOU FEELING? [00:16:08] WHAT EXACTLY ARE YOU FEELING? >> YEAH, THAT WAS A TREMOR. >> YEAH, THAT WAS A TREMOR. SERIOUSLY. SERIOUSLY. [Laughter] [00:16:12] [Laughter] THAT'S WHY I HAD TO MOVE. THAT'S WHY I HAD TO MOVE. EVERYTHING WAS SHAKING AND BEING [00:16:15] EVERYTHING WAS SHAKING AND BEING UNDERNEATH THAT STRUCTURE NOT A UNDERNEATH THAT STRUCTURE NOT A GOOD PLACE TO BE IN AN GOOD PLACE TO BE IN AN EARTHQUAKE. [00:16:18] EARTHQUAKE. >> THAT WAS PHIL MacI [00:18:28] Laku the court 10 months after they heard the case, [00:18:31] a decision from Canada's top court experts say should [00:18:34] influence all future cases in the country where both the [00:18:38] victim and the offender are Indigenous. Trying to address [00:18:42] violence against Indigenous women and girls and the over [00:18:46] incarceration of Indigenous offenders. At the same time, [00:18:50] judges have been explicitly saying I am looking for [00:18:54] direction from the Supreme Court. Surveillance video [00:18:57] shows [00:18:59] Harry Cope beating his longtime on again off again partner [00:19:02] Brittany Sack in 2021. Both Cope and Sack are magma. Cope [00:19:06] pleaded guilty and was sentenced to five years in [00:19:09] prison. But he appealed, saying the trial judge hadn't [00:19:13] properly considered the systemic issues in his [00:19:16] Indigenous background. The Nova Scotia Court of Appeal agreed [00:19:20] and reduced Cope sentence by two years. Then Nova Scotia's [00:19:24] Public Prosecution Service appealed to Canada's top court, [00:19:28] arguing the Criminal Code also requires courts to deter [00:19:32] violence against Indigenous women. Parliament intended for [00:19:36] more serious sentences. The Supreme Court justices remained [00:19:40] divided, with a majority of five to four [00:19:43] upholding the decision to reduce copes sentence. It does [00:19:47] shows how complicated it is because they're trying to to to [00:19:51] show how can we both consider the accused circumstances and [00:19:55] the victim circumstances when they are Indigenous [00:19:59] Court provided a new three-step framework for judges. Assess [00:20:02] the gravity of the offence, give primary consideration to [00:20:06] denunciation and deterrence, and select the proportionate [00:20:10] and just sentence in light of the Indigenous context. Judges [00:20:13] should also reasonably engage with sentencing circles, [00:20:17] a form of restorative justice that includes the community, [00:20:20] as it gives a lot of guidance on how to apply the principles [00:20:24] of the Criminal Code that didn't require the courts to [00:20:28] incorporate Indigenous perspectives. [00:20:30] Nova Scotia's Public Prosecution Service says it [00:20:33] brought the appeal to Canada's top court to clarify questions [00:20:37] of national importance. It respects the decision and will [00:20:40] apply it to future cases. Kayla Hounsell, CBC News, Halifax. [00:20:47] More than 30 years after police across Ontario hunted a serial [00:20:50] child ****** this man is standing trial. Prosecutors say [00:20:54] Richard Neal lured victims into wooded areas in southern [00:20:58] Ontario parks and tied the children to trees to sexually [00:21:02] assault them. About how old at the time did you think that [00:21:06] this person was? Now a jury has been shown this [00:21:09] 1995 police video. A young boy describing his attacker as a [00:21:13] man in his late 20s and roughly this tall. [00:21:17] He took the rope and tied it to my foot and then he tied it up [00:21:20] to the root of the tree and then he pulled down my pants, [00:21:23] the boy recounted. [00:21:25] The now 67 year old accused insists it wasn't him. He is [00:21:30] not guilty [00:21:32] and certainly the presumption of innocence applies. As more [00:21:36] children in the 90s told police of similar assaults. [00:21:39] Investigators linked three attacks, [00:21:42] one targeting an 8 year old boy in Kitchener, [00:21:45] then a 10 year old boy in Brampton and a 15 year old girl [00:21:49] in Oakville. [00:21:51] At the time, police searched but couldn't [00:21:54] identify the one man behind all those assaults. We can't tell [00:21:58] you enough about how we have to get this person off the street [00:22:02] all these years later. Crown prosecutors told the jury [00:22:06] advances in forensic technology finally allowed police to [00:22:10] identify Neil. Investigators searched his homes and said his [00:22:14] DNA and fingerprints matched samples from the crime scenes. [00:22:17] Maybe they'll get a warrant, sample some something [00:22:21] specifically [00:22:22] from that suspect and they'll compare that directly to the [00:22:25] crime scene sample and that it sounds like in that case it [00:22:29] resulted in a match. The Crown says it's a trillion times more [00:22:33] likely that crime scene DNA came from Neil compared to [00:22:36] another random person. He has pleaded not guilty to 17 [00:22:39] charges, including kidnapping and sexual assault. [00:22:43] Thomas Dagg, Let's CBC News, Toronto. [00:22:48] The woman at the centre of the Nordic Spa class action hopes [00:22:51] it will spark change for the massage therapy profession in [00:22:54] Quebec. CBC is protecting her identity, [00:22:56] which is under a publication ban. There's more people that [00:22:59] need to change their policies and change how they do things [00:23:03] so that this doesn't happen again. This, [00:23:05] this should not be a normal thing. It's Not Normal [00:23:09] alleges she was sexually assaulted by a massage [00:23:12] therapist at the Chelsea Spa and represents nearly 150 [00:23:15] people with similar allegations. Those claims haven't been [00:23:18] tested in court. Nordic Spa Chelsea says it will present a [00:23:21] defence and says it continues to take measures to ensure a [00:23:25] safe environment. Obviously this is a very dramatic, [00:23:27] this is something that is very sad for the for the whole [00:23:31] sector. That's the president of one of the six associations [00:23:34] that represent massage therapists in Quebec. They've [00:23:37] all been calling for greater regulation. [00:23:40] Currently, anyone can practice as a [00:23:42] massage therapist, even if they've been [00:23:44] disciplined by an association. It was only in January that the [00:23:48] associations banded together to create a common list of people [00:23:52] who had been disciplined to keep them from gaining [00:23:55] membership at another association. But they want a [00:23:58] law to determine who can practice. We'd like to have a [00:24:02] criminal background check, would like to have a common [00:24:05] list, you know, a centralized list of all the [00:24:08] massage therapists that are [00:24:10] ability to do or that are that can use. The title in this list [00:24:14] would be accessible to the grand public and the employers. [00:24:17] The proposed bill would also mandate legal involvement in [00:24:21] every complaint of sexual misconduct. Matthew Cooper, [00:24:24] CBC News, Ottawa. [00:26:38] Bonjour Tillemont. If nothing was done, [00:26:40] it would become legal in March for people with a mental [00:26:43] illness to seek medical assistance in dying. But now [00:26:46] Justice Minister Sean Fraser says that won't happen. The [00:26:50] government will be tabling legislation this fall that will [00:26:53] maintain that exclusion on an indeterminate basis. After all, [00:26:57] we're talking about ending another human beings life and I [00:27:00] think we should have the strictest sort of oversight and [00:27:03] criteria around that. Munn bioethics professor Darrell [00:27:06] Pullman is applauding [00:27:08] federal decision. This decision now by the federal government [00:27:12] seems to say, well, let let's slow down here, [00:27:16] at least in this place and take a look at it. Pullman believes [00:27:20] the criteria for who should be able to receive made needs [00:27:24] further examination. Well, I've been generally concerned [00:27:29] since 2016 when the legislation first came into effect that the [00:27:33] eligibility criteria for for made were, [00:27:36] were very loose in terms of the how they were interpreted. [00:27:41] I mean, generally, generally Canadians are in [00:27:44] favour of, you know, having access to medical [00:27:48] assistance in dying, but [00:27:50] I think for the vast majority of Canadians, [00:27:53] they believe that's for people with terminal illness. Medical [00:27:57] assistance in dying is available to Canadians with a [00:28:00] grievous and irremediable illness. Palliative care [00:28:03] physician Susan McDonald believes there could be [00:28:06] instances where that definition applies to a person with a [00:28:10] mental illness. She's questioning the federal [00:28:13] government's decision concern over one group of people who [00:28:16] have been [00:28:18] discriminated against. If you want to look at that that way, [00:28:23] in that they can't have something that all other [00:28:26] Canadians can apply for. As a physician who provides [00:28:29] palliative care, McDonald sees many people near [00:28:32] the end of their lives. I have seen patients who have had [00:28:36] chronic mental illness [00:28:38] and then they are referred to me because they develop a [00:28:43] cancer or another illness [00:28:46] and one of the first things out of their mouth is, [00:28:50] thank God I have this cancer. Now I qualify to have medical [00:28:54] aid in dying and that breaks my heart because I see people who [00:28:58] have suffered and suffered and suffered [00:29:02] who have wanted to have this procedure but have been denied [00:29:06] it specifically because of the type of illness that they have. [00:29:10] The federal government hasn't said exactly when this fall it [00:29:15] will introduce changes to redefine made legislation in [00:29:18] Canada. Mark Quinn, CBC News, St. John's.