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[00:00:29] I'm Mark Kelly, and this is CBC News. Here's a
[00:00:30] look at some of the big stories making news across the country
[00:00:34] and around the world.
[00:00:37] THE SAUDI CAPITAL YESTERDAY. THAT'S WHERE WE BEGIN. THAT'S WHERE WE BEGIN. U.S. PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP SAYS
[00:00:41] U.S. PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP SAYS HE'S WEIGHING WHETHER TO USE THE HE'S WEIGHING WHETHER TO USE THE MILITARY TO ENTER ANOTHER FRONT
[00:00:44] MILITARY TO ENTER ANOTHER FRONT IN THE MIDDLE EAST, FOLLOWING IN THE MIDDLE EAST, FOLLOWING THE DEADLIEST ATTACK ON SAUDI
[00:00:47] THE DEADLIEST ATTACK ON SAUDI ARABIA IN MORE THAN A DECADE.
[00:00:49] ARABIA IN MORE THAN A DECADE. THAT COUNTRY IS REELING AFTER A THAT COUNTRY IS REELING AFTER A STRIKE ON THE INTERNATIONAL
[00:00:53] STRIKE ON THE INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT IN RIYADH KILLED AT AIRPORT IN RIYADH KILLED AT LEAST A DOZEN PEOPLE YESTERDAY
[00:00:56] LEAST A DOZEN PEOPLE YESTERDAY AND WOUNDED MORE THAN 300 AND WOUNDED MORE THAN 300 OTHERS.
[00:00:58] OTHERS. IT IS THE THIRD HIT ON A SAUDI
[00:01:00] IT IS THE THIRD HIT ON A SAUDI AIRPORT IN THE PAST WEEK.
[00:01:03] AIRPORT IN THE PAST WEEK. IRAN-BACKED HOUTHI REBELS, BASED IRAN-BACKED HOUTHI REBELS, BASED IN NEIGHBOURING YEMEN, ARE BEING IN NEIGHBOURING YEMEN, ARE BEING BLAMED FOR THEM.
[00:01:07] BLAMED FOR THEM. TRUMP PLANS TO TALK TO SAUDI TRUMP PLANS TO TALK TO SAUDI CROWN PRINCE ABOUT POSSIBLE
[00:01:11] CROWN PRINCE ABOUT POSSIBLE DIRECT U.S. INVOLVEMENT AGAINST DIRECT U.S. INVOLVEMENT AGAINST THE MILITANTS TELLING REPORTERS
[00:01:15] THE MILITANTS TELLING REPORTERS LATE LAST NIGHT, QUOTE, WE'RE LATE LAST NIGHT, QUOTE, WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT IT. GOING TO LOOK AT IT. WE'LL MAKE A DECISION.
[00:01:19] WE'LL MAKE A DECISION. WE MOVE VERY QUICKLY.
[00:01:22] WE MOVE VERY QUICKLY. THE RIYADH AIRPORT AND THE RIYADH AIRPORT AND SURROUNDING AIR SPACE REMAINS
[00:01:25] SURROUNDING AIR SPACE REMAINS CLOSED UNTIL LATER TODAY. CLOSED UNTIL LATER TODAY. CBC'S TOM PARRY IS IN JERUSALEM
[00:01:28] CBC'S TOM PARRY IS IN JERUSALEM WITH MORE ON WHAT WE KNOW ABOUT WITH MORE ON WHAT WE KNOW ABOUT THE ATTACK AND THE REACTION
[00:01:31] THE ATTACK AND THE REACTION PERFORM CANADA AND OTHER PERFORM CANADA AND OTHER COUNTRIES.
[00:01:34] COUNTRIES. >> Reporter: WELL, THE REACTION >> Reporter: WELL, THE REACTION OUT OF SAUDI ARABIA TO THIS
[00:01:37] OUT OF SAUDI ARABIA TO THIS ATTACK ON KING KHALID ATTACK ON KING KHALID INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT.
[00:01:40] INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT. SAUDI OFFICIALS ARE CALLING IT A SAUDI OFFICIALS ARE CALLING IT A WAR CRIME.
[00:01:43] WAR CRIME. AS YOU MENTIONED, THERE HAS BEEN AS YOU MENTIONED, THERE HAS BEEN CONDEMNATION FROM AROUND THE
[00:01:47] CONDEMNATION FROM AROUND THE WORLD AGAINST THIS ATTACK. WORLD AGAINST THIS ATTACK. WE'LL START OFF WITH PRIME
[00:01:49] WE'LL START OFF WITH PRIME MINISTER MARK CARNEY. HE POSTED A MESSAGE ON SOCIAL MEDIA.
[00:01:53] MEDIA. I'LL READ YOU SOME OF WHAT HE I'LL READ YOU SOME OF WHAT HE WROTE. WROTE. HE SAID, THERE CAN BE NO
[00:01:57] HE SAID, THERE CAN BE NO JUSTIFICATION FOR ATTACKS UPON JUSTIFICATION FOR ATTACKS UPON CIVILIAN INFRASTRUCTURE.
[00:02:00] CIVILIAN INFRASTRUCTURE. NO POLITICAL OR MILITARY NO POLITICAL OR MILITARY OBJECTIVE CAN JUSTIFY THE
[00:02:03] OBJECTIVE CAN JUSTIFY THE DELIBERATE TARGETING OF INNOCENT DELIBERATE TARGETING OF INNOCENT PEOPLE.
[00:02:06] PEOPLE. CANADA CONDEMNS THESE RECKLESS CANADA CONDEMNS THESE RECKLESS ACTS OF VIOLENCE IN THE
[00:02:09] ACTS OF VIOLENCE IN THE STRONGEST POSSIBLE TERMS. STRONGEST POSSIBLE TERMS. WE ALSO HEARD FROM ANITA ANAND,
[00:02:13] WE ALSO HEARD FROM ANITA ANAND, THE FOREIGN AFFAIRS MINISTER. THE FOREIGN AFFAIRS MINISTER. SHE CALLED THE ATTACK ABHORRENT
[00:02:16] SHE CALLED THE ATTACK ABHORRENT AND SHE'S URGING CANADIANS TO
[00:02:19] AND SHE'S URGING CANADIANS TO AVOID ALL NONESSENTIAL TRAVEL TO AVOID ALL NONESSENTIAL TRAVEL TO SAUDI ARABIA. SAUDI ARABIA. OF COURSE, TO THE AIRPORT THAT
[00:02:23] OF COURSE, TO THE AIRPORT THAT CAME UNDER ATTACK. CAME UNDER ATTACK. HEARING AS WELL FROM THE HEARING AS WELL FROM THE EUROPEAN UNION, FROM THE U.S.
[00:02:27] EUROPEAN UNION, FROM THE U.S. SECRETARY OF STATE MARCO RUBIO, SECRETARY OF STATE MARCO RUBIO, ALL CONDEMNING THIS ATTACK.
[00:02:30] ALL CONDEMNING THIS ATTACK. AND FROM U.N. SECRETARY-GENERAL
[00:02:33] AND FROM U.N. SECRETARY-GENERAL ANTONIO GUTERRES WHO CALLS ANTONIO GUTERRES WHO CALLS ATTACKS ON CIVILIANS AND
[00:02:36] ATTACKS ON CIVILIANS AND CIVILIAN INFRASTRUCTURE A CIVILIAN INFRASTRUCTURE A VIOLATION OF INTERNATIONAL LAW.
[00:02:39] VIOLATION OF INTERNATIONAL LAW. OF COURSE, WE'RE ALSO HEARING OF COURSE, WE'RE ALSO HEARING FROM THE HOUTHIS WHO ARE BLAMED
[00:02:43] FROM THE HOUTHIS WHO ARE BLAMED FOR THE ATTACK. FOR THE ATTACK. YOU MENTIONED THEY'RE SAYING
[00:02:45] YOU MENTIONED THEY'RE SAYING THAT AIRLINES SHOULD AVOID SAUDI THAT AIRLINES SHOULD AVOID SAUDI ARABIAN AIR SPACE.
[00:02:49] ARABIAN AIR SPACE. THEY'RE DECLARING IT NOW A ZONE
[00:02:51] THEY'RE DECLARING IT NOW A ZONE OF MILITARY OPERATIONS.
[00:02:55] OF MILITARY OPERATIONS. >> Marianne: TOM, WE HEARD THE >> Marianne: TOM, WE HEARD THE U.S. IS EL HAVING STILL WHETHER
[00:02:58] U.S. IS EL HAVING STILL WHETHER TO BECOME DIRECTLY INVOLVED IN TO BECOME DIRECTLY INVOLVED IN THE STRIKES AGAINST THE HOUTHIS.
[00:03:01] THE STRIKES AGAINST THE HOUTHIS. SAUDI ARABIA IS ALREADY BACKING SAUDI ARABIA IS ALREADY BACKING YEMEN'S GOVERNMENT IN A NEW
[00:03:04] YEMEN'S GOVERNMENT IN A NEW OFFENSIVE TO RECLAIM TERRITORY OFFENSIVE TO RECLAIM TERRITORY FROM THE HOUTHIS.
[00:03:06] FROM THE HOUTHIS. IS THERE ANY UPDATE ON THAT?
[00:03:10] IS THERE ANY UPDATE ON THAT? >> Reporter: WELL, FIRST OF ALL, >> Reporter: WELL, FIRST OF ALL, THIS WAS NOT EVEN THE FIRST
[00:03:13] THIS WAS NOT EVEN THE FIRST ATTACK ONLE THIS AIRPORT THIS ATTACK ONLE THIS AIRPORT THIS WEEK. WEEK. WE SAW AN EARLIER ATTACK EARLIER
[00:03:18] WE SAW AN EARLIER ATTACK EARLIER IN THE WEEK IN WHICH AN AIRLINER IN THE WEEK IN WHICH AN AIRLINER WAS PRETTY MUCH DESTROYED AND
[00:03:21] WAS PRETTY MUCH DESTROYED AND THREE PEOPLE WERE KILLED.
[00:03:24] THREE PEOPLE WERE KILLED. SO KEEP IN MIND THIS IS PART OF
[00:03:27] SO KEEP IN MIND THIS IS PART OF A BATTLE THAT'S BEGUN GOING ON A BATTLE THAT'S BEGUN GOING ON FOR YEARS.
[00:03:31] FOR YEARS. THE SAUDIS BACKING YEMEN'S THE SAUDIS BACKING YEMEN'S INTERNATIONALLY BACKED
[00:03:35] INTERNATIONALLY BACKED GOVERNMENT SINCE 2015 IN THEIR GOVERNMENT SINCE 2015 IN THEIR FIGHT AGAINST THE HOUTHIS FIGHT AGAINST THE HOUTHIS REBELS.
[00:03:39] REBELS. THAT'S THROUGH THE YEMENI
[00:03:40] THAT'S THROUGH THE YEMENI CIVCIVIL-- CIVIL WAR, WHERE MANY
[00:03:44] CIVCIVIL-- CIVIL WAR, WHERE MANY THOUSANDS LOST THEIR LIVES.
[00:03:46] THOUSANDS LOST THEIR LIVES. WE'VE SEEN ATTACKS ON SAUDI OIL
[00:03:48] WE'VE SEEN ATTACKS ON SAUDI OIL INFRASTRUCTURE BY THE HOUTHIS. INFRASTRUCTURE BY THE HOUTHIS. AND WE'VE ALSO BEEN SEEING
[00:03:52] AND WE'VE ALSO BEEN SEEING FIGHTING ON THE GROUND BETWEEN FIGHTING ON THE GROUND BETWEEN GOVERNMENT FORCES BACKED BY GOVERNMENT FORCES BACKED BY SAUDI AIR FORCES.
[00:03:56] SAUDI AIR FORCES. THEY'VE BEEN TRYING TO TAKE BACK THEY'VE BEEN TRYING TO TAKE BACK SWATHS OF TERRITORY ALONG THE
[00:04:00] SWATHS OF TERRITORY ALONG THE RED SEA, WHERE THE HOUTHIS HAVE RED SEA, WHERE THE HOUTHIS HAVE GAINED CONTROL OVER A KEY STRAIT
[00:04:04] GAINED CONTROL OVER A KEY STRAIT LEADING TO THE ARABIAN SEA.
[00:04:06] LEADING TO THE ARABIAN SEA. THIS REALLY IS PARTLY OF THE
[00:04:13] THIS REALLY IS PARTLY OF THE EXTENSION. EXTENSION. IRAN IS A MAJOR BACKER OF THE IRAN IS A MAJOR BACKER OF THE HOUTHIS.
[00:04:17] HOUTHIS. THIS ATTACK IS JUST PART OF A THIS ATTACK IS JUST PART OF A BATTLE THAT'S BEEN GOING ON FOR
[00:04:22] HASHEMI FROM GEORGETOWN UNIVERSITY. UNIVERSITY. >>> U.S. PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP >>> U.S. PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP IS CALLING FOR NEW LEADERSHIP IN
[00:04:26] IS CALLING FOR NEW LEADERSHIP IN UKRAINE. UKRAINE. HE BLAMES PRESIDENT VOLODYMYR
[00:04:28] HE BLAMES PRESIDENT VOLODYMYR ZELENSKYY FOR FAILING TO MAKE A ZELENSKYY FOR FAILING TO MAKE A DEAL TO END THE WAR WITH RUSSIA.
[00:04:31] DEAL TO END THE WAR WITH RUSSIA. AND LINKS HIM TO HIGH DIESEL
[00:04:37] AND LINKS HIM TO HIGH DIESEL PRICES IN THE UNITED STATES. PRICES IN THE UNITED STATES. HE STRUCK A CONTROVERSIAL DIESEL
[00:04:40] HE STRUCK A CONTROVERSIAL DIESEL DEAL WITH MOSCOW. DEAL WITH MOSCOW. CBC'S JULIA CHAPMAN IS IN LONDON
[00:04:43] CBC'S JULIA CHAPMAN IS IN LONDON WITH THE DETAILS.
[00:04:44] WITH THE DETAILS. >> Reporter: A PALPABLE SENSE OF
[00:04:49] >> Reporter: A PALPABLE SENSE OF ANG FIREFIGHTER THE U.S. ANG FIREFIGHTER THE U.S. PRESIDENT RESPONDING TO COMMENTS
[00:04:51] PRESIDENT RESPONDING TO COMMENTS FROM VOLODYMYR ZELENSKYY SAYING FROM VOLODYMYR ZELENSKYY SAYING THE DEAL THAT THE U.S. HAD
[00:04:54] THE DEAL THAT THE U.S. HAD STRUCK WITH RUSSIA TO BUY DIESEL
[00:04:56] STRUCK WITH RUSSIA TO BUY DIESEL FUEL WAS A SIGN OF WEAKNESS.
[00:04:59] FUEL WAS A SIGN OF WEAKNESS. THE U.S. PRESIDENT GOING AS FAR THE U.S. PRESIDENT GOING AS FAR AS SAYING THAT A SOVEREIGN
[00:05:02] AS SAYING THAT A SOVEREIGN NATION NEEDS TO REPLACE ITS NATION NEEDS TO REPLACE ITS PRESIDENT, BUT HE ALSO WAS VERY
[00:05:06] PRESIDENT, BUT HE ALSO WAS VERY CRITICAL OF PRESIDENT ZELENSKYY
[00:05:07] CRITICAL OF PRESIDENT ZELENSKYY FOR CONTINUING TO ATTACK ENERGY
[00:05:10] FOR CONTINUING TO ATTACK ENERGY INFRASTRUCTURE, OIL FACILITIES INFRASTRUCTURE, OIL FACILITIES INSIDE RUSSIA.
[00:05:14] INSIDE RUSSIA. ONE OF THE TACTICS THAT UKRAINE ONE OF THE TACTICS THAT UKRAINE HAS BEEN USING TO GREAT EFFECT.
[00:05:17] HAS BEEN USING TO GREAT EFFECT. IT'S TRYING TO CHOKE OFF THE IT'S TRYING TO CHOKE OFF THE INCOME THAT RUSSIA EARNS FROM
[00:05:21] INCOME THAT RUSSIA EARNS FROM ITS OIL EXPORTS TO PREVENT IT
[00:05:24] ITS OIL EXPORTS TO PREVENT IT FROM PROLONGING THE WAR IN
[00:05:27] FROM PROLONGING THE WAR IN UKRAINE. UKRAINE. ZELENSKYY HAS SAID THIS MORNING ZELENSKYY HAS SAID THIS MORNING THAT HE IS WILLING TO HALT THOSE
[00:05:31] THAT HE IS WILLING TO HALT THOSE STRIKES, BUT ONLY IF THERE IS A STRIKES, BUT ONLY IF THERE IS A RECIPROCAL AGREEMENT WITH
[00:05:34] RECIPROCAL AGREEMENT WITH IRON-CLAD GUARANTEES THAT RUSSIA
[00:05:36] IRON-CLAD GUARANTEES THAT RUSSIA WILL STOP STRIKING UKRAINIAN
[00:05:39] WILL STOP STRIKING UKRAINIAN ENERGY INFRASTRUCTURE, WHICH IT
[00:05:41] ENERGY INFRASTRUCTURE, WHICH IT ALSO CONTINUES TO DO.
[00:05:44] ALSO CONTINUES TO DO. TRUMP'S CLAIM AS WELL THAT TRUMP'S CLAIM AS WELL THAT PRESIDENT ZELENSKYY HASN'T BEEN
[00:05:47] PRESIDENT ZELENSKYY HASN'T BEEN WILLING TO MAKE A DEAL WITH WILLING TO MAKE A DEAL WITH MOSCOW WILL INEVITABLY BE MET
[00:05:50] MOSCOW WILL INEVITABLY BE MET WITH FRUSTRATION IN KYIV. WITH FRUSTRATION IN KYIV. UKRAINE HAS REPEATEDLY SAID THAT
[00:05:53] UKRAINE HAS REPEATEDLY SAID THAT IT IS WILLING TO SIT DOWN AT THE
[00:05:56] IT IS WILLING TO SIT DOWN AT THE NEGOTIATING TABLE WITH ITS NEGOTIATING TABLE WITH ITS RUSSIAN COUNTERPARTS.
[00:05:59] RUSSIAN COUNTERPARTS. BUT IT IS MOSCOW THAT HAS TIME BUT IT IS MOSCOW THAT HAS TIME AND AGAIN INSISTED THAT THE
[00:06:02] AND AGAIN INSISTED THAT THE CONDITIONS FOR THOSE CONDITIONS FOR THOSE NEGOTIATIONS SIMPLY HAVEN'T BEEN
[00:06:06] NEGOTIATIONS SIMPLY HAVEN'T BEEN MET. MET. >> Marianne: JULIA, WHAT'S THE >> Marianne: JULIA, WHAT'S THE REACTION BEEN TO THE DIESEL
[00:06:10] REACTION BEEN TO THE DIESEL BETWEEN BETWEEN THE U.S. AND
[00:06:13] BETWEEN BETWEEN THE U.S. AND RUSSIA? RUSSIA? >> Reporter: QUITE WIDESPREAD
[00:06:15] >> Reporter: QUITE WIDESPREAD CONDEMNATION.
[00:06:18] DISMAY THAT THIS COULD CERTAINLY HELP RUSSIA CONTINUE TO FUND THE HELP RUSSIA CONTINUE TO FUND THE WAR AND HELP IT GO ON FOR
[00:06:22] WAR AND HELP IT GO ON FOR LONGER. LONGER. THERE'S BEEN CRITICISM, TOO, THERE'S BEEN CRITICISM, TOO, FROM SOME OF UKRAINE'S ALLIES,
[00:06:26] FROM SOME OF UKRAINE'S ALLIES, INCLUDING IN THE EUROPEAN UNION. INCLUDING IN THE EUROPEAN UNION. THE E.U.'S FOREIGN POLICY CHIEF
[00:06:29] THE E.U.'S FOREIGN POLICY CHIEF KAJA KALLAS SAID NOW IS NOT THE
[00:06:32] KAJA KALLAS SAID NOW IS NOT THE TIME TO EASE SANCTIONS AGAINST TIME TO EASE SANCTIONS AGAINST RUSSIA.
[00:06:35] RUSSIA. AND EUROPE WILL NOT DO SO. AND EUROPE WILL NOT DO SO. PRIME MINISTER ANDY BURNHAM OF
[00:06:38] PRIME MINISTER ANDY BURNHAM OF THE U.K. SPOKE TO PRESIDENT
[00:06:40] THE U.K. SPOKE TO PRESIDENT ZELENSKYY YESTERDAY OFFERING ZELENSKYY YESTERDAY OFFERING SOLIDARITY WITH HIM AND HE SAID
[00:06:44] SOLIDARITY WITH HIM AND HE SAID THAT THE BEST APPROACH WOULD BE
[00:06:45] THAT THE BEST APPROACH WOULD BE TO COME TO SOME MUTUAL AGREEMENT
[00:06:48] TO COME TO SOME MUTUAL AGREEMENT BETWEEN RUSSIA AND UKRAINE TO BETWEEN RUSSIA AND UKRAINE TO STOP STRIKING EACH OTHER'S
[00:06:52] STOP STRIKING EACH OTHER'S ENERGY FACILITIES. ENERGY FACILITIES. UKRAINE IS ADAMANT, THOUGH, THAT
[00:06:55] UKRAINE IS ADAMANT, THOUGH, THAT THIS WILL EMPOWER MOSCOW TO THIS WILL EMPOWER MOSCOW TO CONTINUE ACTING WITH IMPUNITY,
[00:06:59] CONTINUE ACTING WITH IMPUNITY, INCLUDING IN ATTACKS LIKE THE INCLUDING IN ATTACKS LIKE THE ONE WE SAW YESTERDAY AGAINST
[00:07:03] ONE WE SAW YESTERDAY AGAINST ZAPORIZHZHIA, WHERE 23 PEOPLE ZAPORIZHZHIA, WHERE 23 PEOPLE WERE KILLED IN WIDESPREAD
[00:07:07] WERE KILLED IN WIDESPREAD ATTACKS ON RESIDENTIAL ATTACKS ON RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS. BUILDINGS. FOUR OF THEM WERE CHILDREN.
[00:07:11] FOUR OF THEM WERE CHILDREN. AND ENERGY INFRASTRUCTURE IN AND ENERGY INFRASTRUCTURE IN UKRAINE IS ALSO BEING TARGETED
[00:07:14] UKRAINE IS ALSO BEING TARGETED AGAIN TODAY AFTER SIMILAR AGAIN TODAY AFTER SIMILAR ATTACKS YESTERDAY WHICH LED TO
[00:07:17] ATTACKS YESTERDAY WHICH LED TO WIDESPREAD POWER OUTAGES.
[00:07:23] >> Marianne: POPE LEO SAID TODAY THAT HE'LL HAVE SURGERY TO
[00:07:26] THAT HE'LL HAVE SURGERY TO REMOVE A NODULAR LESION ON HIS REMOVE A NODULAR LESION ON HIS LUNG.
[00:07:29] LUNG. HE MADE THE ANNOUNCEMENT DURING HE MADE THE ANNOUNCEMENT DURING HIS NOON BLESSING AT THE HIS NOON BLESSING AT THE VATICAN.
[00:07:33] VATICAN. THE CBC'S MEGAN WILLIAMS IS
[00:07:34] THE CBC'S MEGAN WILLIAMS IS FOLLOWING THE STORY FROM ROME.
[00:07:37] AND TELLS US MORE ABOUT THE PONTIFF'S MEDICAL SITUATION. PONTIFF'S MEDICAL SITUATION. >> Reporter: IT WAS POPE LEO WHO
[00:07:41] >> Reporter: IT WAS POPE LEO WHO MADE THE ANNOUNCEMENT HIMSELF
[00:07:42] MADE THE ANNOUNCEMENT HIMSELF ABOUT THIS UPCOMING SURGERY
[00:07:45] ABOUT THIS UPCOMING SURGERY TODAY IN ST. PETER'S SQUARE TODAY IN ST. PETER'S SQUARE DURING THE SUNDAY ANGELES.
[00:07:48] DURING THE SUNDAY ANGELES. HE TOLD THE PILGRIMS GATHERED
[00:07:50] HE TOLD THE PILGRIMS GATHERED BELOW THAT HE WAS GOING TO HAVE
[00:07:53] BELOW THAT HE WAS GOING TO HAVE THIS NODULE REMOVED IN THE NEXT THIS NODULE REMOVED IN THE NEXT DAYS.
[00:07:56] DAYS. HE SAID THAT IT WAS DISCOVERED HE SAID THAT IT WAS DISCOVERED DURING A ROUTINE MEDICAL CHECK.
[00:08:00] DURING A ROUTINE MEDICAL CHECK. IT IS CIRCUMSCRIBED, WHICH I'M
[00:08:02] IT IS CIRCUMSCRIBED, WHICH I'M ASSUMING IT MEANS -- HE SAYS IT ASSUMING IT MEANS -- HE SAYS IT HAS NOT SPREAD.
[00:08:06] HAS NOT SPREAD. HE SAID IT WAS DISCOVERED VERY
[00:08:07] HE SAID IT WAS DISCOVERED VERY EARLY ON, WHICH IS, OF COURSE,
[00:08:10] EARLY ON, WHICH IS, OF COURSE, VERY GOOD THING.
[00:08:13] VERY GOOD THING. THE VATICAN WOULDN'T SAY EXACTLY
[00:08:14] THE VATICAN WOULDN'T SAY EXACTLY WHEN HE'S GOING TO HAVE THE WHEN HE'S GOING TO HAVE THE SURGERY.
[00:08:18] SURGERY. ITALIAN MEDIA IS REPORTING THAT ITALIAN MEDIA IS REPORTING THAT IT IS NOT TOMORROW.
[00:08:21] IT IS NOT TOMORROW. SO LIKELY TUESDAY OR WEDNESDAY. SO LIKELY TUESDAY OR WEDNESDAY. THEY SAID EARLY THIS WEEK
[00:08:25] THEY SAID EARLY THIS WEEK SOMETIME. SOMETIME. HE'LL GO TO GEMELLI HOSPITAL
[00:08:28] HE'LL GO TO GEMELLI HOSPITAL HERE IN ROME, WHICH IS THE HERE IN ROME, WHICH IS THE HOSPITAL THAT HAS A PAPAL SUITE.
[00:08:32] HOSPITAL THAT HAS A PAPAL SUITE. THIS IS THE HOSPITAL THAT POPE
[00:08:34] THIS IS THE HOSPITAL THAT POPE FRANCIS AND BEFORE HIM POPE JOHN
[00:08:39] FRANCIS AND BEFORE HIM POPE JOHN PAUL II AND POPE BENEDICT ALL PAUL II AND POPE BENEDICT ALL STAYED IN THE HOSPITAL WHERE THE
[00:08:42] STAYED IN THE HOSPITAL WHERE THE POPES ARE TREATED. POPES ARE TREATED. HE'LL GO IN THERE AND THE
[00:08:45] HE'LL GO IN THERE AND THE VATICAN SAYS HE'LL LIKELY BE OUT VATICAN SAYS HE'LL LIKELY BE OUT WITHIN A WEEK. WITHIN A WEEK. THIS IS A POPE WHO IS IN PRETTY
[00:08:49] THIS IS A POPE WHO IS IN PRETTY GOOD PHYSICAL SHAPE. GOOD PHYSICAL SHAPE. HE'S, YOU KNOW, 71 YEARS OLD.
[00:08:51] HE'S, YOU KNOW, 71 YEARS OLD. HE PLAYS TENNIS REGULARLY.
[00:08:54] HE PLAYS TENNIS REGULARLY. AND HE ALSO SWIMS.
[00:08:57] AND HE ALSO SWIMS. HE'S A YOUNG POPE AND A POPE
[00:09:02] HE'S A YOUNG POPE AND A POPE THAT PRIORITIZES PHYSICAL THAT PRIORITIZES PHYSICAL ACTIVITY AND BEING IN GOOD
[00:09:05] ACTIVITY AND BEING IN GOOD SHAPE. SHAPE. >> Marianne: EVEN STILL WITH THE >> Marianne: EVEN STILL WITH THE RECOVERY AND THE TIME AND THE
[00:09:09] RECOVERY AND THE TIME AND THE SURGERY, HOW IS THIS EXPECTED TO SURGERY, HOW IS THIS EXPECTED TO AFFECT HIS SCHEDULE?
[00:09:12] AFFECT HIS SCHEDULE? >> Reporter: WELL, THE NEXT BIG
[00:09:13] >> Reporter: WELL, THE NEXT BIG TRIP FOR THE POPE IS A
[00:09:17] TRIP FOR THE POPE IS A NOVEMBER 7th. NOVEMBER 7th. IT'S ABOUT A TEN-DAY TRIP.
[00:09:19] IT'S ABOUT A TEN-DAY TRIP. HE'S GOING TO SOUTH AMERICA.
[00:09:22] HE'S GOING TO SOUTH AMERICA. HE WILL BE GOING TO URUGUAY, TO
[00:09:25] HE WILL BE GOING TO URUGUAY, TO ARGENTINA WHICH IS, OF COURSE, ARGENTINA WHICH IS, OF COURSE, WHERE POPE FRANCIS CAME FROM.
[00:09:28] WHERE POPE FRANCIS CAME FROM. AND ALSO PERU WHERE POPE LEO IS
[00:09:32] AND ALSO PERU WHERE POPE LEO IS A CITIZEN. A CITIZEN. HE LIVED THERE FOR TWO DECADES
[00:09:35] HE LIVED THERE FOR TWO DECADES OR SO.
[00:09:36] OR SO. SO IT'S A VERY IMPORTANT TRIP.
[00:09:40] SO IT'S A VERY IMPORTANT TRIP. THE VATICAN ISN'T SAYING IT'S THE VATICAN ISN'T SAYING IT'S CANCELLED. CANCELLED. I EXPECT IT WILL BE VERY
[00:09:43] I EXPECT IT WILL BE VERY IMPORTANT FOR HIM TO BE ON THAT IMPORTANT FOR HIM TO BE ON THAT TRIP. TRIP. >> Marianne: THAT'S
[00:11:48] YOU'RE WATCHING CBC NEWS NETWORK. MARIANNE DIMAIN. NETWORK. MARIANNE DIMAIN. ALBERTA IS CLOSING IN ON A
[00:11:51] MARIANNE DIMAIN. ALBERTA IS CLOSING IN ON A DECISION WITH THE POWER TO SHAPE ALBERTA IS CLOSING IN ON A DECISION WITH THE POWER TO SHAPE THE FUTURE OF THIS COUNTRY.
[00:11:55] DECISION WITH THE POWER TO SHAPE THE FUTURE OF THIS COUNTRY. IT IS JUST ONE WEEK TO GO BEFORE
[00:11:57] ON SEPARATING FROM THE COUNTRY. PREMIER DANIELLE SMITHED S SAYSF
[00:12:03] PREMIER DANIELLE SMITHED S SAYSF THE MAJORITY OF VOTERS REJECT THE MAJORITY OF VOTERS REJECT SEPARATION, SHE'LL CONSIDER THE
[00:12:06] SEPARATION, SHE'LL CONSIDER THE MATTER CLOSED.
[00:12:10] MATTER CLOSED. CBC NEWS CHIEF POLITICAL CBC NEWS CHIEF POLITICAL CORRESPONDENT ADRIENNE ARSENAULT
[00:12:13] CORRESPONDENT ADRIENNE ARSENAULT SPOKE WITH THE PREMIER IN
[00:12:17] SPOKE WITH THE PREMIER IN CALGARY.
[00:12:20] CALGARY. >> Reporter: THANK YOU VERY >> Reporter: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MUCH. REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.
[00:12:24] REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. A MOMENT WITH PREMIER DANIELLE A MOMENT WITH PREMIER DANIELLE SMITH AND CLARITY ON A QUESTION SMITH AND CLARITY ON A QUESTION THAT LINGERS.
[00:12:28] THAT LINGERS. WHAT HAPPENS THE DAY AFTER THE WHAT HAPPENS THE DAY AFTER THE REFERENDUM?
[00:12:30] REFERENDUM? IF IT COMES TO BE THAT A IF IT COMES TO BE THAT A MAJORITY OF ALBERTANS VOTE
[00:12:34] MAJORITY OF ALBERTANS VOTE OPTION ONE TO KEEP ALBERTA IN OPTION ONE TO KEEP ALBERTA IN CANADA, WILL YOU COMMIT TO NOT
[00:12:37] CANADA, WILL YOU COMMIT TO NOT HOLDING A BINDING REFERENDUM? HOLDING A BINDING REFERENDUM? >> CORRECT. >> CORRECT. YEAH.
[00:12:41] YEAH. I MEAN, THAT'S TO ME WHAT OPTION I MEAN, THAT'S TO ME WHAT OPTION ONE MEANS.
[00:12:43] ONE MEANS. IF YOU VOTE TO REMAIN IN CANADA,
[00:12:45] IF YOU VOTE TO REMAIN IN CANADA, THEN YOU ARE REJECTING OPTION THEN YOU ARE REJECTING OPTION TWO, WHICH IS TO START THE LEGAL
[00:12:49] TWO, WHICH IS TO START THE LEGAL PROCESS TO HOLD A BINDING PROCESS TO HOLD A BINDING REFERENDUM.
[00:12:52] REFERENDUM. SO THAT'S HOW I WOULD TAKE IT. SO THAT'S HOW I WOULD TAKE IT. >> Reporter: THIS WON'T CROP UP >> Reporter: THIS WON'T CROP UP AGAIN?
[00:12:55] AGAIN? >> NOT AS LONG AS I'M PREMIER. >> NOT AS LONG AS I'M PREMIER. >> Reporter: NOT AS LONG AS SHE
[00:12:59] >> Reporter: NOT AS LONG AS SHE IS PREMIER. IS PREMIER. IN A ONE-ON-ONE INTERVIEW WITH
[00:13:01] IN A ONE-ON-ONE INTERVIEW WITH "THE NATIONAL," SMITH RULING OUT
[00:13:04] A SECOND REFERENDUM IF THE MAJORITY OF ALBERTANS VOTE TO MAJORITY OF ALBERTANS VOTE TO REMAIN IN CANADA IN JUST OVER A
[00:13:08] REMAIN IN CANADA IN JUST OVER A WEEK'S TIME.
[00:13:13] WEEK'S TIME. [HONKING] [HONKING] THOSE PUSHING FOR SEPARATIST THOSE PUSHING FOR SEPARATIST WON'T STOP NO MATTER THE RESULT.
[00:13:17] WON'T STOP NO MATTER THE RESULT. >> I WILL ACCEPT THE RESULTS FOR >> I WILL ACCEPT THE RESULTS FOR WHAT THEY ARE.
[00:13:32] IT EVER HAS. SEPARATION ISN'T THE ONLY SEPARATION ISN'T THE ONLY QUESTION ON THE BALLOT. QUESTION ON THE BALLOT. NINE OTHERS IF ALL SUPPORTED BY
[00:13:36] NINE OTHERS IF ALL SUPPORTED BY SMITH. SMITH. WHAT WOULD BE THE PERCENTAGE TO WHAT WOULD BE THE PERCENTAGE TO THE R-FOR THE OTHER NINE
[00:13:39] THE R-FOR THE OTHER NINE QUESTIONS, THOUGH? QUESTIONS, THOUGH? >> AGAIN I BELIEVE IN DEMOCRACY. >> AGAIN I BELIEVE IN DEMOCRACY. I BELIEVE A MAJORITY RULE SEEMS
[00:13:43] I BELIEVE A MAJORITY RULE SEEMS TO BE THE WAY THAT MOST TO BE THE WAY THAT MOST DECISIONS ARE MADE.
[00:13:47] DECISIONS ARE MADE. AND SO IF THEY'RE REJECTED, I AND SO IF THEY'RE REJECTED, I WOULD ACCEPT THAT.
[00:13:50] WOULD ACCEPT THAT. SO I'M HOPING TO GET OVER 50%. SO I'M HOPING TO GET OVER 50%. >> Reporter: OKAY. >> Reporter: OKAY. THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO BE CLEAR
[00:13:54] THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO BE CLEAR ON. ON. 50%. 50%. >> HAS TO BE OVER 50%.
[00:13:57] >> HAS TO BE OVER 50%. IF THEY'RE REJECTED, YOU KNOW IF THEY'RE REJECTED, YOU KNOW WHAT, WE'LL HAVE TO PURSUE OTHER
[00:14:00] WHAT, WE'LL HAVE TO PURSUE OTHER THINGS -- FIND OUT OTHER THINGS
[00:14:02] THINGS -- FIND OUT OTHER THINGS ALBERTANS ARE CONCERNED ABOUT.
[00:14:05] ALBERTANS ARE CONCERNED ABOUT. >> Reporter: ALBERTA IS A YEAR >> Reporter: ALBERTA IS A YEAR OUT FROM ANOTHER PROVINCIAL
[00:14:09] OUT FROM ANOTHER PROVINCIAL ELECTION. ELECTION. THE U.C.P. CONVENTION HAD ROCKY THE U.C.P. CONVENTION HAD ROCKY MOMENTS FOR THE PREMIER.
[00:14:13] MOMENTS FOR THE PREMIER. >> FEEL A LOT MORE CONFIDENT
[00:14:14] >> FEEL A LOT MORE CONFIDENT THAN CANADA WORKS THAN A COUPLE
[00:14:19] OF DAYS AGO. [BOOING] [BOOING] >> Reporter: NOW AS THEN THE >> Reporter: NOW AS THEN THE SEPARATIST VOICES WITHIN HER OWN
[00:14:23] SEPARATIST VOICES WITHIN HER OWN PARTY ARE LOUD. PARTY ARE LOUD. POLLING SUGGESTING JUST OVER
[00:14:26] POLLING SUGGESTING JUST OVER HALF OF U.C.P. VOTERS ARE NOW AT
[00:14:28] HALF OF U.C.P. VOTERS ARE NOW AT ODDS WITH HER POSITION ON THE ODDS WITH HER POSITION ON THE UNITY QUESTION.
[00:14:31] UNITY QUESTION. AND WHILE SMITH SAYS SHE SPEAKS AND WHILE SMITH SAYS SHE SPEAKS WITH PEOPLE ON BOTH SIDES, WHEN
[00:14:35] WITH PEOPLE ON BOTH SIDES, WHEN IT COMES TO SEPARATIST LEADERS IT COMES TO SEPARATIST LEADERS -- -- >> AS YOU'VE PROBABLY SEEN, I'M
[00:14:38] >> AS YOU'VE PROBABLY SEEN, I'M KIND OF PUBLIC ENEMY NUMBER ONE KIND OF PUBLIC ENEMY NUMBER ONE FOR THE GROUP. FOR THE GROUP. THEY DON'T LIKE THE FACT THAT
[00:14:42] THEY DON'T LIKE THE FACT THAT I'VE TAKEN SUCH A STRONG I'VE TAKEN SUCH A STRONG POSITION ON REMAIN. POSITION ON REMAIN. NO, I'M NOT IN CONTACT WITH ANY
[00:14:46] NO, I'M NOT IN CONTACT WITH ANY OF THEM. OF THEM. >> Reporter: HER POSITION FOR
[00:14:49] >> Reporter: HER POSITION FOR ALBERTA TO REMAIN IN. ALBERTA TO REMAIN IN. >> David: IS WHAT THE MAJORITY >> David: IS WHAT THE MAJORITY OF ALBERTANS CONSISTENTLY OF ALBERTANS CONSISTENTLY BELIEVE
[00:14:54] What do you want?
[00:14:57] For me, separation is the only solution.
[00:15:00] The vote on October 19th means the birth of a lot of hope.
[00:15:06] This is the time where Albertans get to stand up and
[00:15:09] say we are united, you can't divide and conquer us.
[00:15:12] This is the time where we have to stick together. Here in
[00:15:16] Alberta on October 19th, people will vote whether or not
[00:15:19] they want to pursue the idea of separating from Canada's big
[00:15:23] question. Now both sides are all in crisscrossing the
[00:15:26] province trying to sway the vote their way. Now, of course,
[00:15:29] there's also pressure from the South as President Donald Trump
[00:15:33] continues to threaten to make Canada his 51st state.
[00:15:36] So I've come to Alberta to find out what this vote means for
[00:15:39] the future of Canada.
[00:15:42] It's the end of the day in Cold Lake, AB.
[00:15:46] How you doing?
[00:15:47] Thomas Lukasik is on his final stop. Hello everybody.
[00:15:53] Maybe we can gather together. Can we gather together?
[00:15:56] The people here have been waiting to meet him. Thank you
[00:15:59] everybody for coming out. I, I really appreciate you on a
[00:16:03] Sunday evening. That, that is something. But you know
[00:16:06] what? We've been on the road now for
[00:16:08] I don't know even how many days. Thomas's mission here is simple.
[00:16:12] He wants people to know their vote is crucial. Finally,
[00:16:15] we're realizing that we have to show our pride in Canada and,
[00:16:19] and we have to all as Canadians pull together in unity.
[00:16:22] And, and that's right, that's right.
[00:16:27] The stakes are very high. You know,
[00:16:30] this isn't fun and games. This is,
[00:16:32] this is very serious business. And,
[00:16:34] and there are those that are saying Thomas Alberta will
[00:16:37] never separate from Canada. This is not realistic. I think
[00:16:41] it is realistic. There is a pathway and Brexit has shown us
[00:16:44] what the pathway is. When people feel too confident that
[00:16:48] they are on the winning side, they tend not to vote. Apathy
[00:16:51] sets in and that's how the other side wins. This is
[00:16:54] probably the most important work that we will do as
[00:16:57] Canadians in our life
[00:16:59] Times and the vote that we will be participating in will define
[00:17:03] us. Thank you.
[00:17:09] Thomas vows to visit every single town in the province
[00:17:12] before the vote on the 19th. Thank you again,
[00:17:14] thank you for your leadership, Thank you. And yes, I'm a proud,
[00:17:18] I'm a proud Canadian. You can't be 1 without the other. But not
[00:18:01] because they believe that's the way to prosperity and people
[00:18:05] who think a united Canada is the better choice.
[00:18:10] It's the next day and Thomas Lukasik is on his way to the
[00:18:13] town of Vegreville
[00:18:16] and I think we have enough fuel to get there.
[00:18:29] 12 years old
[00:18:31] and I left Poland at a time where I would not be able to
[00:18:35] return again to Poland because it was a communist country at
[00:18:40] that time and we came here as refugees. So every day I'm very
[00:18:44] thankful to Canadians, to Canada,
[00:18:46] for the opportunity that Canada has given my family and and
[00:18:51] myself. This is sort of my journey of of paying off my
[00:18:55] debt to Canada.
[00:18:57] Almost went from refugee all the way to become Alberta's
[00:19:00] deputy premier.
[00:19:02] An MLA for almost 15 years,
[00:19:05] and in that time he never thought separation was the way
[00:19:08] to deal with Ottawa. And he thinks that's even more true
[00:19:11] today. This is the worst time possible. It makes us
[00:19:13] vulnerable. Never in the history of the relationship
[00:19:33] Look around you. You are the future of Alberta. We can do
[00:19:37] this.
[00:19:39] The thing is, there are thousands of people
[00:19:42] across the province coming out in support of separation too.
[00:19:45] Free and independent Alberta.
[00:19:49] One of their leaders is Kathy Flett. She's the cofounder of
[00:19:52] the Alberta Women for Independence Network. I'm
[00:19:55] absolutely all for Alberta being our own, our own country,
[00:19:59] our own nation, our own, our own state, our own Republic,
[00:20:02] whatever word you want to use, but our own entity. Kathy has
[00:20:06] been pushing for Alberta independence for almost a
[00:20:09] decade.
[00:20:10] Her beef, she says, is with Ottawa. We as Albertans
[00:20:13] don't have, we still don't have a voice,
[00:20:16] which means we still don't have a choice and what goes on.
[00:20:19] We're not angry at Canada, we're angry at the government
[00:20:23] system. It's the government structure that's the problem.
[00:20:26] Kathy's complaint is the federal government takes
[00:20:30] Alberta's oil and gas wealth and uses it to help other
[00:20:33] provinces. And for her, separation would end that and
[00:20:36] make Alberta richer. What that means pragmatically,
[00:20:40] I guess on a day today, our paychecks, more of that money will stay in
[00:20:44] our bank account so that we can look after our families because
[00:20:47] it's not going to Ottawa. We'll be able to decide what's best
[00:20:50] for Albertans, not Ottawa deciding what's best
[00:20:53] for Albertans. Many people say this is the wrong time to be
[00:20:56] doing this with the United States breathing down our necks.
[00:20:59] What's your position? This is the perfect time to
[00:21:02] have this referendum
[00:21:04] and here's why. Because we are the only province who has a
[00:21:08] leader who has consistently gone down to the US to try and
[00:21:11] build up relationship with them. And so we've already got a
[00:21:15] foundation to build upon, has a belief that's different.
[00:21:18] Support for separation here is strongest with people who are
[00:21:22] middle-aged, but there are younger voices too,
[00:21:26] called freedom, or in this case, 2 Voices. Sisters,
[00:21:29] what do you want?
[00:21:32] Let's Go
[00:21:35] Madison and Macy Holmes host a political podcast. I'm already
[00:21:38] gutted when I have to ask my 50 year old father to go back to
[00:21:41] the rigs because my ideas, talents and ability to learn
[00:21:44] and create isn't enough for me to make a life for myself.
[00:21:48] If ever there was a ballot in front of me
[00:21:51] on whether or not to vote Alberta out of Canada,
[00:21:53] my pencil will be checking yes. This is not a whim decision.
[00:21:57] We've thought about this really hard and we're because our
[00:22:00] future is worth thinking about.
[00:22:04] I picked 00 as the number because we are 0 years
[00:22:07] independent.
[00:22:09] Madison and Macy's say they want an independent Alberta
[00:22:12] because of the economic troubles they see with their
[00:22:15] generation. Well, it's just the overall quality
[00:22:18] of life. It's like even if some people are getting by,
[00:22:21] that's all it is, is getting by. It is not
[00:22:24] thriving. It's it's not enough. I want more from life and I
[00:22:27] know that a lot of people do. And since me and our Mattie are
[00:22:31] going to be inheriting the next generation of whatever Canada
[00:22:34] is to be, if it continues to go down this
[00:22:37] path, I don't see any future for me or
[00:22:40] my generation because so many people are moving back in with
[00:22:42] their parents, right? They can't afford a first time
[00:22:45] home. And so if there's any chance that there is a
[00:22:48] potential for us to have something better,
[00:22:50] then this is just what this is trying to accomplish. That's
[00:22:53] what independence is trying to accomplish. Well,
[00:22:56] to give you what you've all been waiting for,
[00:22:58] Macy and Madison tell me they'll keep fighting for
[00:23:01] separation no matter the result of the vote. And that's what
[00:23:04] many in the movements say.
[00:23:09] The people who want Alberta to stay in Canada seem to be a
[00:23:13] significant majority. That's what the latest polls suggest.
[00:23:20] Thomas arrives in Vegreville. People here are happy to see
[00:23:23] the Unity bus.
[00:23:25] They tell me they're relieved to have someone who represents
[00:23:29] them. Hello,
[00:23:31] how are you? How are you?
[00:23:35] Thank you so much. Thank you. OK. That's a camera,
[00:23:38] by the way. Have you ever seen one?
[00:23:42] My father fought in World War 2 and died for the very democracy
[00:23:45] we have and I don't think a lot of people supporting the
[00:23:48] independence movement. People realize the damage they're
[00:23:51] doing right now. Love this shirt and you. Do you guys know
[00:23:54] each other?
[00:23:57] I came here today to support Canada. I have a firm believer
[00:24:01] in the our country and the divisions that are being caused
[00:24:05] by a certain few disgust me. So I'm just at that point where
[00:24:08] it's time to fight back, and this is what we're here for.
[00:24:14] Thomas doesn't hang around long.
[00:24:17] Tony's back in the bus driving to the next town. As long as
[00:24:21] this bus holds out, I will hold out for sure.
[00:24:26] I'm fully prepared for having yet another campaign following
[00:24:30] October 19 if we have to. But I'm an optimist. I I think we
[00:24:34] will be sending a very strong message that Alberta will not
[00:24:38] be the weak link in the Confederation that would lead
[00:24:42] to some kind of a breakup.
[00:24:46] What kind of future do Albertans want for their
[00:24:48] province? The upcoming referendum will
[00:24:51] reveal where voters stand. To learn what the choices mean,
[00:24:54] stay tuned to CBC News for full coverage. The Alberta
[00:24:57] referendum October 19th. Make an informed choice.
[00:27:06] Laku the court 10 months after they heard the case,
[00:27:08] a decision from Canada's top court experts say should
[00:27:12] influence all future cases in the country where both the
[00:27:16] victim and the offender are Indigenous. Trying to address
[00:27:20] violence against Indigenous women and girls and the over
[00:27:24] incarceration of Indigenous offenders. At the same time,
[00:27:27] judges have been explicitly saying I am looking for
[00:27:31] direction from the Supreme Court. Surveillance video
[00:27:35] shows
[00:27:36] Harry Cope beating his longtime on again off again partner
[00:27:39] Brittany Sack in 2021. Both Cope and Sack are magma. Cope
[00:27:53] Indigenous background. The Nova Scotia Court of Appeal agreed
[00:27:58] and reduced Cope sentence by two years. Then Nova Scotia's
[00:28:02] Public Prosecution Service appealed to Canada's top court,
[00:28:06] arguing the Criminal Code also requires courts to deter
[00:28:10] violence against Indigenous women. Parliament intended for
[00:29:02] of the Criminal Code that didn't require the courts to
[00:29:05] incorporate Indigenous perspectives.
[00:29:08] Nova Scotia's Public Prosecution Service says it
[00:29:11] brought the appeal to Canada's top court to clarify questions
[00:29:14] of national importance. It respects the decision and will
[00:29:18] apply it to future cases. Kayla Hounsell, CBC News, Halifax.
[00:29:24] More than 30 years after police across Ontario hunted a serial
[00:29:28] child ****** this man is standing trial. Prosecutors say
[00:29:32] Richard Neal lured victims into wooded areas in southern
[00:29:36] Ontario parks and tied the children to trees to sexually
[00:29:39] assault them. About how old at the time did you think that
[00:29:43] this person was? Now a jury has been shown this
[00:29:47] 1995 police video. A young boy describing his attacker as a
[00:29:51] man in his late 20s and roughly this tall.
[00:29:54] He took the rope and tied it to my foot and then he tied it up
[00:29:57] to the root of the tree and then he pulled down my pants,
[00:30:00] the boy recounted.
[00:30:02] The now 67 year old accused insists it wasn't him. He is
[00:30:07] not guilty
[00:30:09] and certainly the presumption of innocence applies. As more
[00:30:13] children in the 90s told police of similar assaults.
[00:30:17] Investigators linked three attacks,
[00:30:19] one targeting an 8 year old boy in Kitchener,
[00:30:22] then a 10 year old boy in Brampton and a 15 year old girl
[00:30:26] in Oakville.
[00:30:29] At the time, police searched but couldn't
[00:30:32] identify the one man behind all those assaults. We can't tell
[00:30:36] you enough about how we have to get this person off the street
[00:30:40] all these years later. Crown prosecutors told the jury
[00:30:43] advances in forensic technology finally allowed police to
[00:30:47] identify Neil. Investigators searched his homes and said his
[00:30:51] DNA and fingerprints matched samples from the crime scenes.
[00:30:55] Maybe they'll get a warrant, sample some something
[00:30:58] specifically
[00:31:00] from that suspect and they'll compare that directly to the
[00:31:03] crime scene sample and that it sounds like in that case it
[00:31:06] resulted in a match. The Crown says it's a trillion times more