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[00:59:30] Everybody's in panic mode, witnessing their struggles and
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[00:59:42] her, you know? See. Yeah, you can see that for sure.
[00:59:45] That's on her tombstone to get you answers. That's your friend
[00:59:49] and that's you.
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[01:00:29] I'm Adrian Arceneaux, chief correspondent for CBC News. Here's what's making news right now.
[01:00:36] ANOTHER MAJOR STORY WE'RE FOLLOWING.
[01:00:41] FOLLOWING. THE ARABIAN PENINSULA IS
[01:00:42] THE ARABIAN PENINSULA IS EMERGING AT LATEST FLASH POINT
[01:00:45] EMERGING AT LATEST FLASH POINT IN THE WIDENING WAR IN THE IN THE WIDENING WAR IN THE MIDDLE EAST. MIDDLE EAST. THE INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT HAS
[01:00:49] THE INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT HAS BEEN TARGETED TODAY. BEEN TARGETED TODAY. JUST 24 HOURS AFTER THE COUNTRY
[01:00:52] JUST 24 HOURS AFTER THE COUNTRY WAS LEFT REELING FROM ITS WAS LEFT REELING FROM ITS DEADLIEST ATTACK IN MORE THAN A
[01:00:55] DEADLIEST ATTACK IN MORE THAN A DECADE. DECADE. AT LEAST 12 PEOPLE ARE DEAD.
[01:00:58] AT LEAST 12 PEOPLE ARE DEAD. HUNDREDS MORE WOUNDED AFTER AN
[01:01:00] HUNDREDS MORE WOUNDED AFTER AN AIRSTRIKE THAT THE SEAU D --
[01:01:06] AIRSTRIKE THAT THE SEAU D -- SAUDIS ARE BLAME ON THE
[01:01:10] SAUDIS ARE BLAME ON THE IRAN-BLACKED HOUTHI REBEL.
[01:01:13] IRAN-BLACKED HOUTHI REBEL. THE U.K. COULD POTENTIALLY
[01:01:16] THE U.K. COULD POTENTIALLY PROVIDE MORE MILITARY ASSISTANCE PROVIDE MORE MILITARY ASSISTANCE TO THE SAUDIS.
[01:01:19] TO THE SAUDIS. >> EVEN IN THE CONTEXT OF
[01:01:29] >> EVEN IN THE CONTEXT OF HOUTHIS ATTACKS. HOUTHIS ATTACKS. THERE WERE HUNDREDS OF THERE WERE HUNDREDS OF CASUALTIES.
[01:01:33] CASUALTIES. AN ATTACK ON THE CIVILIANS CAN'T
[01:01:35] AN ATTACK ON THE CIVILIANS CAN'T BE JUSTIFIED.
[01:01:37] BE JUSTIFIED. >> Natasha: THE RIYADH AIRPORT >> Natasha: THE RIYADH AIRPORT REMAINS CLOSED. REMAINS CLOSED. THE HOUTHIS HAVE WARNED ALL
[01:01:41] THE HOUTHIS HAVE WARNED ALL AIRLINES TO STAY CLEAR OF SAUDI AIRLINES TO STAY CLEAR OF SAUDI AIRSPACE.
[01:01:45] AIRSPACE. THE ESCALATING TENSIONS HAVE
[01:01:49] THE ESCALATING TENSIONS HAVE DELAYED OR CANCELLED HUNDREDS OF DELAYED OR CANCELLED HUNDREDS OF FLIGHTS.
[01:01:52] FLIGHTS. DONALD TRUMP SAYS HE'S PLANNING
[01:01:54] DONALD TRUMP SAYS HE'S PLANNING TO TALK TO SAUDI ARABIA'S CROWN
[01:01:57] TO TALK TO SAUDI ARABIA'S CROWN PRINCE, MOHAMMED BIN SALMAN PRINCE, MOHAMMED BIN SALMAN ABOUT POSSIBLE U.S. MILITARY ABOUT POSSIBLE U.S. MILITARY INTERVENTION.
[01:02:01] INTERVENTION. CBC'S TOM PARRY IS TRACKING CBC'S TOM PARRY IS TRACKING THESE DEVELOPMENTS FOR US AND
[01:02:04] THESE DEVELOPMENTS FOR US AND JOIN US FROM JERUSALEM. JOIN US FROM JERUSALEM. WHAT MORE DO WE KNOW ABOUT THE
[01:02:07] WHAT MORE DO WE KNOW ABOUT THE LATEST STRIKE ON THE AIRPORT
[01:02:08] LATEST STRIKE ON THE AIRPORT HAPPENING JUST TODAY?
[01:02:12] HAPPENING JUST TODAY? >> Reporter: WELL, NATASHA, >> Reporter: WELL, NATASHA, JUST A FEW MINUTES, AGO, SOME
[01:02:15] JUST A FEW MINUTES, AGO, SOME NEWS MOVED ON THE WIRES SAYING
[01:02:18] NEWS MOVED ON THE WIRES SAYING THE IRAN-BACKED HOUTHIS HAVE
[01:02:21] THE IRAN-BACKED HOUTHIS HAVE TAKEN RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE TAKEN RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE ATTACK ON THE AIRPORT IN RIYADH
[01:02:24] ATTACK ON THE AIRPORT IN RIYADH THAT KILLED 12 PEOPLE AND
[01:02:27] THAT KILLED 12 PEOPLE AND INJURED 300. INJURED 300. WE HAVEN'T HEARD FROM THEM YET. WE HAVEN'T HEARD FROM THEM YET. THEY ARE TAKING RESPONSIBILITY
[01:02:31] THEY ARE TAKING RESPONSIBILITY FOR THIS ATTACK. FOR THIS ATTACK. AS YOU MENTIONED AS WELL, THAT
[01:02:35] AS YOU MENTIONED AS WELL, THAT AIRPORT CAME UNDER ATTACK AGAIN AIRPORT CAME UNDER ATTACK AGAIN TODAY.
[01:02:39] TODAY. SAUDI OFFICIALS SAYING SAUDI OFFICIALS SAYING UNIDENTIFIED PROJECTILE LANDED
[01:02:42] UNIDENTIFIED PROJECTILE LANDED IN THE AIRPORT. IN THE AIRPORT. SET A FIRE. SET A FIRE. CRUISE MISSILE WAS INTERCEPTED
[01:02:46] CRUISE MISSILE WAS INTERCEPTED IN THE VICINITY OF THE AIRPORT.
[01:02:48] IN THE VICINITY OF THE AIRPORT. WE HEARD TODAY AS WELL FROM
[01:02:51] WE HEARD TODAY AS WELL FROM CANADA'S AMBASSADOR TO SAUDI CANADA'S AMBASSADOR TO SAUDI ARABIA.
[01:02:54] ARABIA. JUST REMINDING CANADIANS THERE
[01:02:56] JUST REMINDING CANADIANS THERE THAT THE EMBASSY STILL OPEN.
[01:03:04] THAT THE EMBASSY STILL OPEN. HERE'S SOME OF WHAT THE
[01:03:06] HERE'S SOME OF WHAT THE AMBASSADOR HAD TO SAY.
[01:03:10] AMBASSADOR HAD TO SAY. >> ADVISE AGAINST ANY TRAVEL TO
[01:03:11] >> ADVISE AGAINST ANY TRAVEL TO AND FROM THE AIRPORT IN RIYADH.
[01:03:14] AND FROM THE AIRPORT IN RIYADH. THIS IS IN ADDITION TO OUR THIS IS IN ADDITION TO OUR EARLIER ADVICE TO AVOID TRAVEL
[01:03:17] EARLIER ADVICE TO AVOID TRAVEL TO THE PROVINCES IN THE SAUDI
[01:03:24] TO THE PROVINCES IN THE SAUDI COUNTRY. COUNTRY. WITH REGARDS TO OTHER AIRPORTS
[01:03:28] WITH REGARDS TO OTHER AIRPORTS IN SAUDI ARABIA, WE ADVISE IN SAUDI ARABIA, WE ADVISE CANADIANS TO ONLY UNDERTAKE
[01:03:31] CANADIANS TO ONLY UNDERTAKE ESSENTIAL TRAVEL AND THAT
[01:03:32] ESSENTIAL TRAVEL AND THAT INCLUDES THE AIRPORTS.
[01:03:39] INCLUDES THE AIRPORTS. >> Reporter: THAT WAS CANADA'S
[01:03:42] >> Reporter: THAT WAS CANADA'S AMBASSADOR TO SAUDI ARABIA. AMBASSADOR TO SAUDI ARABIA. THERE'S BEEN A COURSE OF
[01:03:46] THERE'S BEEN A COURSE OF CONDEMNATION AGAINST THIS CONDEMNATION AGAINST THIS ATTACK. ATTACK. WE HEARD FROM PRIME MINISTER
[01:03:49] WE HEARD FROM PRIME MINISTER MARK CARNEY. MARK CARNEY. HE POSTED A MESSAGE ON SOCIAL HE POSTED A MESSAGE ON SOCIAL MEDIA.
[01:03:52] MEDIA. HE SAYS, THERE CAN BE NO HE SAYS, THERE CAN BE NO JUSTIFICATION FOR ATTACKS ON
[01:03:56] JUSTIFICATION FOR ATTACKS ON CIVILIAN INFRASTRUCTURE.
[01:03:57] CIVILIAN INFRASTRUCTURE. NO POLITICAL OR MILITARY
[01:04:02] NO POLITICAL OR MILITARY OBJECTIVE JUSTIFY THE TARGETING OBJECTIVE JUSTIFY THE TARGETING OF INNOCENT PEOPLE.
[01:04:05] OF INNOCENT PEOPLE. CANADA CONDEMNS THESE RECKLESS CANADA CONDEMNS THESE RECKLESS ACTS OF VIOLENCE IN THE
[01:04:08] ACTS OF VIOLENCE IN THE STRONGEST POSSIBLE TERMS. STRONGEST POSSIBLE TERMS. WE HEARD FROM THE FOREIGN
[01:04:12] WE HEARD FROM THE FOREIGN MINISTER, ANITA ANAND.
[01:04:14] MINISTER, ANITA ANAND. SHE CALLED IT ABHORRENT.
[01:04:18] SHE CALLED IT ABHORRENT. WE DID SEE THE AUDI HEALTH WE DID SEE THE AUDI HEALTH MINISTER OUT MEETING WITH THE
[01:04:22] MINISTER OUT MEETING WITH THE INJURED FROM THAT ATTACK. INJURED FROM THAT ATTACK. SAUDI ARABIA CALLS THIS A WAR
[01:04:25] SAUDI ARABIA CALLS THIS A WAR CRIME.
[01:04:27] CRIME. THAT SAID, HOUTHIS-BACKED MEDIA
[01:04:30] THAT SAID, HOUTHIS-BACKED MEDIA IN YEMEN ARE REPORTING AN ATTACK
[01:04:32] IN YEMEN ARE REPORTING AN ATTACK ON THE AIRPORT IN THE YEMENI
[01:04:36] ON THE AIRPORT IN THE YEMENI CAPITAL. CAPITAL. WE HEARD IN COMMENT FROM THE
[01:04:39] WE HEARD IN COMMENT FROM THE SAUDIS TO CONFIRM THAT.
[01:04:41] SAUDIS TO CONFIRM THAT. >> Natasha: TOM, THE STORY IS >> Natasha: TOM, THE STORY IS SO MULTI-LAYERED.
[01:04:45] SO MULTI-LAYERED. IF YOU PEEL BACK THE LAYER, IF YOU PEEL BACK THE LAYER, LET'S TALK ABOUT YEMEN WHERE YOU
[01:04:48] LET'S TALK ABOUT YEMEN WHERE YOU GOT THE YEMENI GOVERNMENT GOT THE YEMENI GOVERNMENT FIGHTING AGAINST THE HOUTHIS.
[01:04:52] FIGHTING AGAINST THE HOUTHIS. THE HOUTHIS ARE BACKED BY IRAN. THE HOUTHIS ARE BACKED BY IRAN. LONG STANDING OPPONENT OF SAUDI LONG STANDING OPPONENT OF SAUDI ARABIA.
[01:04:56] ARABIA. NOW THE HOUTHIS REPORTEDLY NOW THE HOUTHIS REPORTEDLY CARRYING OUT SERIES OF ATTACKS,
[01:05:00] CARRYING OUT SERIES OF ATTACKS, POTENTIALLY EVEN TODAY'S ATTACK POTENTIALLY EVEN TODAY'S ATTACK ON THE SAUDI AIRPORTS.
[01:05:02] ON THE SAUDI AIRPORTS. YOU GOT THE ONGOING CONFLICT YOU GOT THE ONGOING CONFLICT WITH IRAN AND THE UNITED STATES.
[01:05:06] WITH IRAN AND THE UNITED STATES. NOW, PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP NOW, PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP SAYING, HE'S THINKING ABOUT
[01:05:09] SAYING, HE'S THINKING ABOUT BACKING SAUDI IN ITS ONGOING
[01:05:12] BACKING SAUDI IN ITS ONGOING WARFARE AGAINST THE HOUTHIS.
[01:05:13] WARFARE AGAINST THE HOUTHIS. PUT THIS ALL IN CONTEXT FOR US.
[01:05:17] PUT THIS ALL IN CONTEXT FOR US. >> Reporter: YES, IT'S A BIT >> Reporter: YES, IT'S A BIT OF A MESS. OF A MESS. IT'S BEEN LIKE THIS FOR WHILE.
[01:05:20] IT'S BEEN LIKE THIS FOR WHILE. SOME WAYS, THIS IS AN EXTENSION
[01:05:23] SOME WAYS, THIS IS AN EXTENSION OF THE U.S. AND ISRAEL'S WAR ON
[01:05:31] OF THE U.S. AND ISRAEL'S WAR ON IRAN. IRAN. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN
[01:05:34] THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN GOING TON FOR A LONG TIME. GOING TON FOR A LONG TIME. SAUDI ARABIA HAS BACKED YEMEN'S
[01:05:38] SAUDI ARABIA HAS BACKED YEMEN'S INTERNATIONALLY RECOGNISED INTERNATIONALLY RECOGNISED GOVERNMENT AGAINST THE HOUTHIS
[01:05:41] GOVERNMENT AGAINST THE HOUTHIS GOING BACK TO 2015. GOING BACK TO 2015. THERE WAS ASTER'S FIRE IN --
[01:05:45] THERE WAS ASTER'S FIRE IN -- THERE WAS A CEASEFIRE IN PLACE. THERE WAS A CEASEFIRE IN PLACE. WE'VE SEEN THE GOVERNMENT FORCES
[01:05:48] WE'VE SEEN THE GOVERNMENT FORCES BACKED BY THE SAUDI AIR FORCE,
[01:05:52] BACKED BY THE SAUDI AIR FORCE, BATTLING WITH THE HOUTHIS. BATTLING WITH THE HOUTHIS. TRYING TO REGAIN CONTROL OVER
[01:05:55] TRYING TO REGAIN CONTROL OVER MASSIVE ATTRACTIVE LAND ALONG MASSIVE ATTRACTIVE LAND ALONG THE RED SEA.
[01:05:59] THE RED SEA. CONTROL OF A STRAIT THAT LEADS
[01:06:00] CONTROL OF A STRAIT THAT LEADS TO THE ARABIAN SEA.
[01:06:03] TO THE ARABIAN SEA. THAT LATEST ATTACKS ARE REALLY
[01:06:05] THAT LATEST ATTACKS ARE REALLY PART OF THAT LARGER WAR THAT'S
[01:06:08] PART OF THAT LARGER WAR THAT'S RESULT OF THE WAR IN IRAN BUT
[01:06:11] RESULT OF THE WAR IN IRAN BUT REALLY ALSO JUST PART OF A
[01:06:13] REALLY ALSO JUST PART OF A BATTLE THAT'S BEEN GOING ON FOR
[01:06:19] NETWORK. U.S. PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP SAYS
[01:06:21] U.S. PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP SAYS THAT UKRAINE AND RUSSIA HAVE
[01:06:23] THAT UKRAINE AND RUSSIA HAVE AGREED TO WHAT HE DESCRIBES AS AGREED TO WHAT HE DESCRIBES AS AN ENERGY CEASEFIRE.
[01:06:27] AN ENERGY CEASEFIRE. HE MADE THESE COMMENTS A FEW HE MADE THESE COMMENTS A FEW MOMENTS AGO ON SOCIAL MEDIA.
[01:06:30] MOMENTS AGO ON SOCIAL MEDIA. SAYING THE CEASEFIRE WOULD TAKE
[01:06:31] SAYING THE CEASEFIRE WOULD TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATE.
[01:06:34] EFFECT IMMEDIATE. UKRAINE'S PRESIDENT SAID THE UKRAINE'S PRESIDENT SAID THE ANNOUNCEMENT WAS NEWS TO HIM.
[01:06:37] ANNOUNCEMENT WAS NEWS TO HIM. THERE'S NO WORD FROM MOSCOW. THERE'S NO WORD FROM MOSCOW. THIS COMES AMID TRUMP'S ONGOING
[01:06:41] THIS COMES AMID TRUMP'S ONGOING CALLS FOR A NEW LEADER TO TAKE CALLS FOR A NEW LEADER TO TAKE CONTROL IN UKRAINE.
[01:06:44] CONTROL IN UKRAINE. HE'S BLAMING PRESIDENT VOLODYMYR HE'S BLAMING PRESIDENT VOLODYMYR ZELENSKY FOR FAILING TO MAKE A
[01:06:47] ZELENSKY FOR FAILING TO MAKE A DEAL TO END THE WAR WITH RUSSIA. DEAL TO END THE WAR WITH RUSSIA. ZELENSKYY RESPONDED YESTERDAY BY
[01:06:51] ZELENSKYY RESPONDED YESTERDAY BY SAYING HE WOULD ORGANIZE
[01:06:54] SAYING HE WOULD ORGANIZE ELECTIONS IF RUSSIA AGREES TO
[01:06:58] ELECTIONS IF RUSSIA AGREES TO 60-DAY CEASEFIRE.
[01:07:00] 60-DAY CEASEFIRE. LET'S TURN TO JOURNALIST WILLIAM
[01:07:06] LET'S TURN TO JOURNALIST WILLIAM DENSELOW WHO FOLLOW THE STORY
[01:07:07] DENSELOW WHO FOLLOW THE STORY FROM RUSSIA.
[01:07:10] FROM RUSSIA. >> Reporter: AS YOU RIGHTLY
[01:07:14] >> Reporter: AS YOU RIGHTLY MENTIONED, BEING A FLURRY OF
[01:07:21] MENTIONED, BEING A FLURRY OF DIPLOMATIC ACTIVITY WITH
[01:07:27] DIPLOMATIC ACTIVITY WITH PRESIDENT ZELENSKY INCLUDING THE PRESIDENT ZELENSKY INCLUDING THE PRESIDENT.
[01:07:29] PRESIDENT. IN THE SOCIAL MEDIA POST,
[01:07:32] IN THE SOCIAL MEDIA POST, HEARING FROM PRESIDENT ZELENSKY HEARING FROM PRESIDENT ZELENSKY HE SAYS HE'S SUPPORTIVE OF
[01:07:36] HE SAYS HE'S SUPPORTIVE OF CEASEFIRE. CEASEFIRE. STILL AWAITING DETAILS WHAT
[01:07:39] STILL AWAITING DETAILS WHAT EXACTLY WASHINGTON IS PROPOSING.
[01:07:42] EXACTLY WASHINGTON IS PROPOSING. SIGNIFICANTLY, FOR KYIV
[01:07:43] SIGNIFICANTLY, FOR KYIV IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT AS WELL
[01:07:47] AS THE STRIKE ON RUSSIAN ENERGY INFRASTRUCTURE, HUGE CONCERNS IN INFRASTRUCTURE, HUGE CONCERNS IN UKRAINE.
[01:07:50] UKRAINE. CONSIDER THEIR LACK OF AIR CONSIDER THEIR LACK OF AIR DEFENCES AND WITH WINTER COMING
[01:07:54] DEFENCES AND WITH WINTER COMING THE HUGE RAMIFICATIONS.
[01:07:55] THE HUGE RAMIFICATIONS. THIS COULD BE VERY WELL COMMUTE THIS COULD BE VERY WELL COMMUTE ACROSS UKRAINE.
[01:07:59] ACROSS UKRAINE. WE HAVE HEARD DIRECTLY FROM
[01:08:04] WE HAVE HEARD DIRECTLY FROM PRESIDENT ZELENSKY SPEAKING PRESIDENT ZELENSKY SPEAKING BEFORE THE ANNOUNCEMENT WHERE HE
[01:08:07] BEFORE THE ANNOUNCEMENT WHERE HE WAS ON BOARD WITH SUCH CEASEFIRE WAS ON BOARD WITH SUCH CEASEFIRE PROPOSALS.
[01:08:10] PROPOSALS. LET'S HAVE A LISTEN.
[01:08:12] LET'S HAVE A LISTEN. >> WE ARE READY FOR CEASEFIRE.
[01:08:14] >> WE ARE READY FOR CEASEFIRE. WE ARE READY TO BEGIN FROM ANY
[01:08:17] WE ARE READY TO BEGIN FROM ANY KIND OF STEPS OF THIS KIND OF STEPS OF THIS ESCALATION.
[01:08:20] ESCALATION. WE ARE READY FOR ENERGY WE ARE READY FOR ENERGY CEASEFIRE.
[01:08:22] CEASEFIRE. NOT TO ATTACK ENERGY.
[01:08:26] NOT TO ATTACK ENERGY. IF RUSSIANS WANT US NOT ATTACK
[01:08:30] IF RUSSIANS WANT US NOT ATTACK THEIR DIESEL AND REFINERY.
[01:08:35] THEIR DIESEL AND REFINERY. WE ARE ASKING PRESIDENT TRUMP
[01:08:36] WE ARE ASKING PRESIDENT TRUMP GIVE THE SIGNAL.
[01:08:39] GIVE THE SIGNAL. NOT ATTACK ENERGY INFRASTRUCTURE NOT ATTACK ENERGY INFRASTRUCTURE OF UKRAINE.
[01:08:42] OF UKRAINE. >> Reporter: THIS COMES AFTER >> Reporter: THIS COMES AFTER PRESIDENT TRUMP SAID THAT HE
[01:08:45] PRESIDENT TRUMP SAID THAT HE WANTED TO SEE FRESH ELECTIONS IN
[01:08:50] WANTED TO SEE FRESH ELECTIONS IN UKRAINE. UKRAINE. PRESIDENT ZELENSKY SAYING HE IS PRESIDENT ZELENSKY SAYING HE IS ESSENTIALLY ON BOARD WITH THAT
[01:08:54] ESSENTIALLY ON BOARD WITH THAT IF HE CAN GET -- IF PRESIDENT IF HE CAN GET -- IF PRESIDENT TRUMP CAN GET PRESIDENT PUTIN ON
[01:08:57] TRUMP CAN GET PRESIDENT PUTIN ON BOARD WITH A FULL 60-DAY BOARD WITH A FULL 60-DAY COMPREHENSIVE CEASEFIRE.
[01:09:01] COMPREHENSIVE CEASEFIRE. >> Natasha: HOW ARE TODAY'S >> Natasha: HOW ARE TODAY'S DEVELOPMENTS EXPECTED TO IMPACT
[01:09:04] DEVELOPMENTS EXPECTED TO IMPACT EUROPE'S POSITIONING?
[01:09:07] EUROPE'S POSITIONING? >> Reporter: WE'VE HEARD FROM
[01:09:12] >> Reporter: WE'VE HEARD FROM URSULA VON DER LEYEN AFTER HER URSULA VON DER LEYEN AFTER HER CALL WITH PRESIDENT ZELENSKY.
[01:09:16] CALL WITH PRESIDENT ZELENSKY. SHE SAID SHE'S SUPPORTIVE OF SHE SAID SHE'S SUPPORTIVE OF THIS ENERGY CEASEFIRE.
[01:09:19] THIS ENERGY CEASEFIRE. SHE SAYS THIS IS GOOD NEWS FOR SHE SAYS THIS IS GOOD NEWS FOR ENERGY PRICES FOR ENERGY ENERGY PRICES FOR ENERGY INFRASTRUCTURE IN UKRAINE AS
[01:09:23] INFRASTRUCTURE IN UKRAINE AS WELL. WELL. GOING TOWARDS THIS POTENTIALLY
[01:09:26] GOING TOWARDS THIS POTENTIALLY DEVASTATING WINTER PERIOD.
[01:09:28] DEVASTATING WINTER PERIOD. SHE SAYS EUROPE WILL CONTINUE TO SHE SAYS EUROPE WILL CONTINUE TO ACT.
[01:09:32] ACT. SHE SAYS WHEN EUROPEAN LEADERS SHE SAYS WHEN EUROPEAN LEADERS ARE GATHERED AT THE END OF THIS
[01:09:35] ARE GATHERED AT THE END OF THIS WEEK, SHE SAYS WILL BE FURTHER
[01:09:39] WEEK, SHE SAYS WILL BE FURTHER MOVEMENTS ESPECIALLY WHEN IT MOVEMENTS ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COME TO PROVIDING DRONES AND
[01:09:42] COME TO PROVIDING DRONES AND MISSILES FOR UKRAINE.
[01:09:44] MISSILES FOR UKRAINE. WE HEARD FROM KAJAS KALLAS
[01:09:50] WE HEARD FROM KAJAS KALLAS SCATHING OF THAT ENERGY DEAL SCATHING OF THAT ENERGY DEAL WITH RUSSIA TO ALLOW IMPORTS OF
[01:09:54] WITH RUSSIA TO ALLOW IMPORTS OF RUSSIAN DIESEL TO THE UNITED RUSSIAN DIESEL TO THE UNITED STATES. STATES. SHE SAID, ESSENTIALLY, THAT WILL
[01:09:58] SHE SAID, ESSENTIALLY, THAT WILL HELP FUND PUTIN'S WAR MACHINE.
[01:10:00] HELP FUND PUTIN'S WAR MACHINE. SHE SAYS THAT THE E.U. WILL
[01:10:04] SHE SAYS THAT THE E.U. WILL REMAIN STEADFAST IN THEIR REMAIN STEADFAST IN THEIR SANCTIONS OF THE E.U.
[01:10:07] SANCTIONS OF THE E.U. SHE SAYS THAT THE MOVEMENT FROM SHE SAYS THAT THE MOVEMENT FROM FOREIGN MINISTERS ON MONDAY WHAT
[01:10:11] FOREIGN MINISTERS ON MONDAY WHAT SHE CALLS THE BIGGEST SANCTION
[01:10:14] SHE CALLS THE BIGGEST SANCTION PACKAGE ON RUSSIA THAT WE'VE
[01:10:19] PRIME MINISTER MARK CARNEY SPOKE WITH UKRAINIAN PRESIDENT
[01:10:22] WITH UKRAINIAN PRESIDENT VOLODYMYR ZELENSKY TODAY. VOLODYMYR ZELENSKY TODAY. ACCORDING TO AN OFFICIAL READOUT
[01:10:25] ACCORDING TO AN OFFICIAL READOUT OF THAT CONVERSATION, THE TWO
[01:10:27] OF THAT CONVERSATION, THE TWO LEADERS UNDERSCORED THE URGENT LEADERS UNDERSCORED THE URGENT NEED FOR RUSSIA TO IMMEDIATELY
[01:10:31] NEED FOR RUSSIA TO IMMEDIATELY CEASE ITS STRIKES ON UKRAINE'S CEASE ITS STRIKES ON UKRAINE'S ENERGY INFRASTRUCTURE.
[01:10:34] ENERGY INFRASTRUCTURE. THEY DISCUSSED THEIR OPPOSITION THEY DISCUSSED THEIR OPPOSITION TO A RECENT DEAL BETWEEN
[01:10:37] TO A RECENT DEAL BETWEEN WASHINGTON AND MOSCOW TO SUPPLY WASHINGTON AND MOSCOW TO SUPPLY MILLIONS OF TONS OF DIESEL TO
[01:10:41] MILLIONS OF TONS OF DIESEL TO THE UNITED STATES.
[01:12:54] >> THESE OBLIGATIONS ARE BINDING.
[01:12:57] BINDING. AND FAILING TO FOLLOW THEIR
[01:13:02] AND FAILING TO FOLLOW THEIR COMMITMENTS WILL RESULT BUY COMMITMENTS WILL RESULT BUY ACTIONS BY THE GOVERNMENT.
[01:13:06] ACTIONS BY THE GOVERNMENT. AND SO BASICALLY MY POINT IS AND SO BASICALLY MY POINT IS THEY NEED TO COMPLY.
[01:13:11] THEY NEED TO COMPLY. IF NOT, WE'LL USE THE FULL FORCE
[01:13:12] IF NOT, WE'LL USE THE FULL FORCE OF THE LAW.
[01:13:15] OF THE LAW. >> Rosemary: INDUSTRY MINISTER >> Rosemary: INDUSTRY MINISTER MELANIE JOLY ON THURSDAY WARNING
[01:13:18] MELANIE JOLY ON THURSDAY WARNING OF LEGAL ACTION AGAINST STELCO. OF LEGAL ACTION AGAINST STELCO. OTTAWA GAVE THE STEELMAKER FIVE
[01:13:22] OTTAWA GAVE THE STEELMAKER FIVE DAYS TO RESPOND AFTER IT PLANS
[01:13:24] DAYS TO RESPOND AFTER IT PLANS TO LAY OFF UP TO 500 WORKERS.
[01:13:26] TO LAY OFF UP TO 500 WORKERS. CBC NEWS OBTAINED A COPY OF THE CBC NEWS OBTAINED A COPY OF THE RESPONSE OVER THE WEEKEND.
[01:13:30] RESPONSE OVER THE WEEKEND. IT SAYS IT'S NOT VIOLATING ITS IT SAYS IT'S NOT VIOLATING ITS EMPLOYMENT COMMITMENTS.
[01:13:33] EMPLOYMENT COMMITMENTS. CLEVELAND-CLIFFS IS THE U.S. CLEVELAND-CLIFFS IS THE U.S. OWNER OF STELCO, THE C.E.O.
[01:13:36] OWNER OF STELCO, THE C.E.O. JOINS ME NOW LIVE THIS MORNING. JOINS ME NOW LIVE THIS MORNING. LOURENCO GONCALVES, THANK YOU
[01:13:39] LOURENCO GONCALVES, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. FOR BEING HERE. >> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME, >> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME, ROSEMARY.
[01:13:43] ROSEMARY. >> Rosemary: SO IN RESPONSE TO
[01:13:44] >> Rosemary: SO IN RESPONSE TO THE LETTER THAT STELCO SENT BACK
[01:13:47] TO THE GOVERNMENT OVER THE PAST COUPLE OF DAYS, MINISTER JOLY'S COUPLE OF DAYS, MINISTER JOLY'S OFFICE SAYS THE GOVERNMENT
[01:13:51] OFFICE SAYS THE GOVERNMENT EXPECTS STELCO TO MEET ITS
[01:13:52] EXPECTS STELCO TO MEET ITS LEGALLY BINDING COMMITMENTS TO LEGALLY BINDING COMMITMENTS TO EMPLOYEES.
[01:13:56] EMPLOYEES. AND THEIR LEGAL TEAM, THE AND THEIR LEGAL TEAM, THE GOVERNMENT'S LEGAL TEAM IS GOING
[01:13:59] GOVERNMENT'S LEGAL TEAM IS GOING TO REVIEW YOUR LETTER. TO REVIEW YOUR LETTER. ALL OPTIONS ARE ON THE TABLE.
[01:14:02] ALL OPTIONS ARE ON THE TABLE. ARE YOU PREPARED TO FIGHT THIS
[01:14:04] ARE YOU PREPARED TO FIGHT THIS IN COURT, MR. GONCALVES? IN COURT, MR. GONCALVES? >> I AM.
[01:14:08] >> I AM. AND JUST TO CLARIFY A FEW AND JUST TO CLARIFY A FEW POINTS.
[01:14:10] POINTS. WE HAVE BEEN IN DIRECT
[01:14:13] WE HAVE BEEN IN DIRECT CONVERSATIONS WITH THE MINISTRY
[01:14:16] CONVERSATIONS WITH THE MINISTRY OF INNOVATION AND SCIENCE AND
[01:14:18] OF INNOVATION AND SCIENCE AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IN CANADA. ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IN CANADA. >> Rosemary: YEAH.
[01:14:21] >> Rosemary: YEAH. >> AND IT'S NOT JUST ONE LETTER. >> AND IT'S NOT JUST ONE LETTER. IT'S TWO LETTERS THAT WE
[01:14:24] IT'S TWO LETTERS THAT WE ACTUALLY SENT ON FRIDAY.
[01:14:28] ACTUALLY SENT ON FRIDAY. ONE TO MINISTER JOLY TO REPLY TO
[01:14:31] ONE TO MINISTER JOLY TO REPLY TO HER PUBLIC LETTER, BECAUSE SHE HER PUBLIC LETTER, BECAUSE SHE SENT A PUBLIC LETTER TO ME.
[01:14:35] SENT A PUBLIC LETTER TO ME. I REPLIED WITH A PUBLIC LETTER I REPLIED WITH A PUBLIC LETTER AS WELL.
[01:14:37] AS WELL. AND THERE'S ANOTHER ONE THAT
[01:14:41] AND THERE'S ANOTHER ONE THAT GOES STRAIGHT TO THE DEPUTY
[01:14:44] GOES STRAIGHT TO THE DEPUTY MINISTER. MINISTER. >> Rosemary: DEPUTY MINISTER. >> Rosemary: DEPUTY MINISTER. YES.
[01:14:47] YES. >> AND THAT OTHER ONE IS
[01:14:50] >> AND THAT OTHER ONE IS PRIVILEGED UNDER SECTION 36 OF
[01:14:52] PRIVILEGED UNDER SECTION 36 OF THE INVESTMENT CANADA ACT.
[01:14:55] THE INVESTMENT CANADA ACT. SO -- BUT, URN, WE DIDN'T NEED
[01:14:59] SO -- BUT, URN, WE DIDN'T NEED THE FIVE DAYS.
[01:15:02] THE FIVE DAYS. THIS IS SO ABSURD. THIS IS SO ABSURD. IT'S EASY TO COUNTER.
[01:15:06] IT'S EASY TO COUNTER. >> Rosemary: LET ME GO TO THE >> Rosemary: LET ME GO TO THE ISSUE OF JOBS, WHICH IS CENTRAL ISSUE OF JOBS, WHICH IS CENTRAL TO THIS OBVIOUSLY.
[01:15:10] TO THIS OBVIOUSLY. IT'S CANADIAN THANKSGIVING. IT'S CANADIAN THANKSGIVING. SOME OF THESE WORKERS ARE BEING
[01:15:13] SOME OF THESE WORKERS ARE BEING LAID OFF TODAY. LAID OFF TODAY. AND STELCO IS SAYING IT'S
[01:15:17] AND STELCO IS SAYING IT'S COMPLIANT WITH ITS EMPLOYMENT COMPLIANT WITH ITS EMPLOYMENT COMMITMENTS AND THE UNDERTAKINGS
[01:15:20] COMMITMENTS AND THE UNDERTAKINGS DO NOT STIPULATE A COMMITMENT TO DO NOT STIPULATE A COMMITMENT TO AVOID LAYOFFS.
[01:15:24] AVOID LAYOFFS. THAT WAS IN THE UNDERTAKING AN THAT WAS IN THE UNDERTAKING AN AGREEMENT TO EMPLOY THE SAME
[01:15:27] AGREEMENT TO EMPLOY THE SAME NUMBER OF UNIONIZED AND NUMBER OF UNIONIZED AND NONUNIONIZED EMPLOYEES WHEN THIS
[01:15:31] NONUNIONIZED EMPLOYEES WHEN THIS HAPPENED. HAPPENED. SO HOW IS THAT DIFFERENT? SO HOW IS THAT DIFFERENT? WHY ARE YOU NOW SAYING THAT YOU
[01:15:35] WHY ARE YOU NOW SAYING THAT YOU ARE ALLOWED TO DO SOMETHING THAT ARE ALLOWED TO DO SOMETHING THAT THE UNDERTAKING SAYS YOU SHOULD THE UNDERTAKING SAYS YOU SHOULD NOT BE DOING?
[01:15:39] NOT BE DOING? >> YEAH.
[01:15:41] >> YEAH. DIFFERENT THAN WHAT HAPPENED AT
[01:15:44] DIFFERENT THAN WHAT HAPPENED AT ALGOMA, IN WHICH THE REDUCTION
[01:15:46] ALGOMA, IN WHICH THE REDUCTION IN JOBS WAS PERMANENT.
[01:15:50] IN JOBS WAS PERMANENT. AND THE SUBSIDIZED BY THE
[01:15:52] AND THE SUBSIDIZED BY THE CANADIAN TAXPAYER.
[01:15:54] CANADIAN TAXPAYER. REMEMBER ALGONA GOT $500 MILLION
[01:15:58] REMEMBER ALGONA GOT $500 MILLION FROM THE CANADIAN GOVERNMENT. FROM THE CANADIAN GOVERNMENT. AND THEN SHUT DOWN THE -- THEY
[01:16:02] AND THEN SHUT DOWN THE -- THEY LAID OFF PERMANENTLY MORE THAN LAID OFF PERMANENTLY MORE THAN 1,000 WORKERS.
[01:16:06] 1,000 WORKERS. IN OUR CASE, THE LAYOFFS ARE IN OUR CASE, THE LAYOFFS ARE ONE, TEMPORARY.
[01:16:10] ONE, TEMPORARY. TWO, THEY WILL BE REVERSED.
[01:16:12] TWO, THEY WILL BE REVERSED. THREE, I DID NOT ACCEPT CANADIAN
[01:16:15] THREE, I DID NOT ACCEPT CANADIAN TAXPAYER MONEY TO DO THAT, TAXPAYER MONEY TO DO THAT, BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE COMPLETE
[01:16:19] BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE COMPLETE LI NAKED COMBAT. LI NAKED COMBAT. I DON'T AGREE WITH THAT.
[01:16:23] I DON'T AGREE WITH THAT. I DON'T WANT TO DO THAT. I DON'T WANT TO DO THAT. BY THE WAY, NO REASON TO BELIEVE
[01:16:25] BY THE WAY, NO REASON TO BELIEVE THAT THERE'S ANY OTHER
[01:16:28] THAT THERE'S ANY OTHER CIRCUMSTANCES BEYOND WHAT'S
[01:16:33] CIRCUMSTANCES BEYOND WHAT'S OBVIOUS. OBVIOUS. BY THE WAY, I NEVER MET MINISTER BY THE WAY, I NEVER MET MINISTER LEBLANC.
[01:16:37] LEBLANC. HE SOUNDS LIKE A LEVEL-LED THE
[01:16:40] HE SOUNDS LIKE A LEVEL-LED THE PERSON. PERSON. AND AND HIS INTERVIEW WITH YOU A
[01:16:43] AND AND HIS INTERVIEW WITH YOU A FEW MINUTES AGO WAS SPOT ON. FEW MINUTES AGO WAS SPOT ON. >> Rosemary: TO GO BACK TO THE
[01:16:47] >> Rosemary: TO GO BACK TO THE ISSUE OF THE JOBS. ISSUE OF THE JOBS. WHEN YOU TOOK OVER THE COMPANY, WHEN YOU TOOK OVER THE COMPANY, I REMEMBER BECAUSE WE SPOKE AT
[01:16:51] I REMEMBER BECAUSE WE SPOKE AT THE TIME. THE TIME. ONE OF YOUR COMMITMENTS UNDER
[01:16:54] ONE OF YOUR COMMITMENTS UNDER THE INVESTMENT CANADA ACT WAS THE INVESTMENT CANADA ACT WAS YOU HAD TO KEEP THE LEVEL OF
[01:16:57] YOU HAD TO KEEP THE LEVEL OF EMPLOYEES THE SAME.
[01:17:00] EMPLOYEES THE SAME. .
[01:17:05] . HOW IS IT ACCEPTABLE TO BE HOW IS IT ACCEPTABLE TO BE LAYING OFF PEOPLE?
[01:17:08] LAYING OFF PEOPLE? >> THE LAST TIME WE REPORTED TO >> THE LAST TIME WE REPORTED TO THE CANADIAN GOVERNMENT IN
[01:17:11] THE CANADIAN GOVERNMENT IN COMPLIANCE.
[01:17:13] COMPLIANCE. I EXPECTED NEXT TIME I'LL BE IN
[01:17:17] I EXPECTED NEXT TIME I'LL BE IN COMPLIANCE AGAIN. COMPLIANCE AGAIN. THERE'S NO PROVISION IN THE
[01:17:19] THERE'S NO PROVISION IN THE CONTRACT THAT I HAVE TO KEEP CONTRACT THAT I HAVE TO KEEP EMPLOYMENT AT A CERTAIN LEVEL
[01:17:23] EMPLOYMENT AT A CERTAIN LEVEL EVERY SINGLE DAY OF THE FIVE EVERY SINGLE DAY OF THE FIVE YEARS.
[01:17:26] YEARS. IF THAT WAS AN IMPOSITION OF THE
[01:17:29] IF THAT WAS AN IMPOSITION OF THE CANADIAN GOVERNMENT, I WOULD NOT
[01:17:31] CANADIAN GOVERNMENT, I WOULD NOT HAVE ACCEPTED.
[01:17:34] HAVE ACCEPTED. UNDERTAKER -- DECREES ARE NOT UNDERTAKER -- DECREES ARE NOT IMPOSED TO THE BUYER.
[01:17:37] IMPOSED TO THE BUYER. THIS IS A CONTRACT.
[01:17:38] THIS IS A CONTRACT. I ONLY INVESTED $3.4 BILLION
[01:17:42] I ONLY INVESTED $3.4 BILLION BECAUSE -- TO BUY STELCO BECAUSE
[01:17:45] BECAUSE -- TO BUY STELCO BECAUSE I BELIEVE CANADA IS A COUNTRY OF
[01:17:48] I BELIEVE CANADA IS A COUNTRY OF LOSS. LOSS. AND THERE'S NO PROVISION IN THE
[01:17:51] AND THERE'S NO PROVISION IN THE CONTRACT THAT FORCED ME TO HAVE CONTRACT THAT FORCED ME TO HAVE THIS SAME EMPLOYMENT LEVEL EVERY
[01:17:55] THIS SAME EMPLOYMENT LEVEL EVERY SINGLE DAY OF THE FIVE YEARS.
[01:17:58] SINGLE DAY OF THE FIVE YEARS. >> Rosemary: OKAY.
[01:18:00] >> Rosemary: OKAY. >> MINISTER JOLY IS ELECTED NOT
[01:18:03] >> MINISTER JOLY IS ELECTED NOT TO ACCEPT. TO ACCEPT. >> Rosemary: LET ME ASK YOU
[01:18:05] >> Rosemary: LET ME ASK YOU ABOUT TARIFFS. ABOUT TARIFFS. OBVIOUSLY THIS IS -- THIS IS
[01:18:08] OBVIOUSLY THIS IS -- THIS IS BECAUSE OF THE TARIFFS. BECAUSE OF THE TARIFFS. ARE YOU IN FAVOUR OF TARIFFS
[01:18:12] ARE YOU IN FAVOUR OF TARIFFS FROM THE U.S. ADMINISTRATION,
[01:18:14] FROM THE U.S. ADMINISTRATION, THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION AGAINST THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION AGAINST CANADA?
[01:18:18] CANADA? >> I AM IN FAVOUR OF TARIFFS
[01:18:20] >> I AM IN FAVOUR OF TARIFFS AGAINST ALL THE COUNTRIES IN THE
[01:18:22] AGAINST ALL THE COUNTRIES IN THE ENTIRE WORLD THAT DUMP STEEL
[01:18:25] ENTIRE WORLD THAT DUMP STEEL INTO THE UNITED STATES.
[01:18:27] INTO THE UNITED STATES. BECAUSE PRESIDENT TRUMP
[01:18:30] BECAUSE PRESIDENT TRUMP IMPLEMENTED IN THE UNITED STATES IMPLEMENTED IN THE UNITED STATES -- SECTION 232 IS TARIFFS.
[01:18:34] -- SECTION 232 IS TARIFFS. BASED ON NATIONAL SECURITY. BASED ON NATIONAL SECURITY. WE FINALLY HAVE THE AMERICAN
[01:18:38] WE FINALLY HAVE THE AMERICAN STEEL INDUSTRY BACK.
[01:18:39] STEEL INDUSTRY BACK. WE ARE NOW THE THIRD LARGEST
[01:18:43] WE ARE NOW THE THIRD LARGEST PRODUCING STEEL COUNTRY IN THE PRODUCING STEEL COUNTRY IN THE WORLD. WORLD. AND WE'RE FOURTH FOR A LONG,
[01:18:47] AND WE'RE FOURTH FOR A LONG, LONG TIME. LONG TIME. SO THINGS ARE GETTING MUCH SO THINGS ARE GETTING MUCH BETTER IN THE UNITED STATES.
[01:18:51] BETTER IN THE UNITED STATES. SO I'M IN FAVOUR OF SECTION 232 SO I'M IN FAVOUR OF SECTION 232 TARIFFS.
[01:18:54] TARIFFS. NO DOUBT ABOUT IT.
[01:18:55] NO DOUBT ABOUT IT. BUT I'M WITH THE SAME POSITION
[01:18:59] BUT I'M WITH THE SAME POSITION OF -- MINISTER DOMINIC LEBLANC.
[01:19:02] OF -- MINISTER DOMINIC LEBLANC. WE NEED TO NEGOTIATE A SEPARATE WE NEED TO NEGOTIATE A SEPARATE SITUATION BETWEEN THE UNITED
[01:19:05] SITUATION BETWEEN THE UNITED STATES AND CANADA. STATES AND CANADA. THAT HAS BEEN MY POSITION ALL THAT HAS BEEN MY POSITION ALL ALONG.
[01:19:09] ALONG. AND I AM THE BIGGEST APPROPRIATE
[01:19:12] AND I AM THE BIGGEST APPROPRIATE OF NORTH AMERICA IN BOTH SIDES OF NORTH AMERICA IN BOTH SIDES OF THE BORDER. OF THE BORDER. IF YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT
[01:19:16] IF YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT FORTRESS, I'LL BE GLAD TO TALK. FORTRESS, I'LL BE GLAD TO TALK. >> Rosemary: WELL, BUT BEING IN
[01:19:20] >> Rosemary: WELL, BUT BEING IN FAVOUR OF THE TERRORISTS, HAS IT FAVOUR OF THE TERRORISTS, HAS IT NOT LED TO THIS OUTCOME?
[01:19:23] NOT LED TO THIS OUTCOME? DO YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING HERE?
[01:19:26] DO YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING HERE? >> ROSEMARY, I'M IN FAVOUR OF
[01:19:28] >> ROSEMARY, I'M IN FAVOUR OF TARIFFS IN THE UNITED STATES.
[01:19:31] TARIFFS IN THE UNITED STATES. I'M IN FAVOUR OF TARIFFS AGAINST
[01:19:33] I'M IN FAVOUR OF TARIFFS AGAINST ALL COUNTRIES THAT DUMP STEEL IN ALL COUNTRIES THAT DUMP STEEL IN THE UNITED STATES.
[01:19:37] THE UNITED STATES. THE SITUATION BETWEEN CANADA AND THE SITUATION BETWEEN CANADA AND THE UNITED STATES IS STARTING TO
[01:19:41] THE UNITED STATES IS STARTING TO BE RESOLVED.
[01:19:42] BE RESOLVED. BECAUSE I STOPPED SELLING.
[01:19:47] BECAUSE I STOPPED SELLING. FIRST DAY THAT WAS ONLY STELCO, FIRST DAY THAT WAS ONLY STELCO, I STOPPED SELLING AT LOW PRICE
[01:19:51] I STOPPED SELLING AT LOW PRICE INTO THE UNITED STATES.
[01:19:53] INTO THE UNITED STATES. SO THAT WOULD HAVE RESULT -- I
[01:19:56] SO THAT WOULD HAVE RESULT -- I DON'T CONTROL ANYTHING BEYOND
[01:19:59] DON'T CONTROL ANYTHING BEYOND STELCO. STELCO. >> Rosemary: YEAH.
[01:20:01] >> Rosemary: YEAH. >> THE FLOW OF ARTIFICIALLY >> THE FLOW OF ARTIFICIALLY CHEAP STEEL INTO THE UNITED
[01:20:04] CHEAP STEEL INTO THE UNITED STATES FROM CANADA, ONLY THE STATES FROM CANADA, ONLY THE TARIFFS CAN DO THAT.
[01:20:08] TARIFFS CAN DO THAT. THAT SAID WE HAVE TO ADDRESS
[01:20:11] THAT SAID WE HAVE TO ADDRESS THIS SPECIFIC SITUATION OF THE THIS SPECIFIC SITUATION OF THE UNITED STATES AND CANADA.
[01:20:14] UNITED STATES AND CANADA. AND THAT'S WHAT WAS BEING AND THAT'S WHAT WAS BEING NEGOTIATED.
[01:20:17] NEGOTIATED. AND IT WAS INTERRUPTED IN THE AND IT WAS INTERRUPTED IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NEGOTIATIONS.
[01:20:20] MIDDLE OF THE NEGOTIATIONS. WE WOULD HAVE A MUCH BETTER
[01:20:23] WE WOULD HAVE A MUCH BETTER SITUATION IF THE PATH THAT WE
[01:20:24] SITUATION IF THE PATH THAT WE STARTED IN JUNE OF 2025 -- IT
[01:20:28] STARTED IN JUNE OF 2025 -- IT WAS APPROVED IN DECEMBER OF
[01:20:34] WAS APPROVED IN DECEMBER OF 2025. 2025. WE WOULD HAVE RESULTED IN A MORE
[01:20:38] WE WOULD HAVE RESULTED IN A MORE COMPREHENSIVE FORTRESS NORTH COMPREHENSIVE FORTRESS NORTH AMERICA AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE
[01:20:41] AMERICA AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE UNITED STATES AND CANADA. UNITED STATES AND CANADA. >> Rosemary: YES. >> Rosemary: YES. I UNDERSTAND.
[01:20:44] I UNDERSTAND. YES. YES. SORRY, I'M RUNNING OUT OF TIME, SORRY, I'M RUNNING OUT OF TIME, MR. GONCALVES.
[01:20:48] MR. GONCALVES. I UNDERSTAND YOU DIDN'T WANT TO I UNDERSTAND YOU DIDN'T WANT TO TAKE TAXPAYER MONEY IN ORDER TO
[01:20:51] TAKE TAXPAYER MONEY IN ORDER TO HELP THINGS. HELP THINGS. BUT THE GOVERNMENT DID MAKE
[01:20:54] BUT THE GOVERNMENT DID MAKE VARIOUS OFFERS TO AVOID THIS VARIOUS OFFERS TO AVOID THIS OUTCOME. OUTCOME. WHY DID YOU NOT ACCEPT ANY OF
[01:20:58] WHY DID YOU NOT ACCEPT ANY OF THEM? THEM? WHY DID YOU NOT TRY TO FIND A
[01:21:00] WHY DID YOU NOT TRY TO FIND A WAY OUT OF THIS?
[01:21:03] WAY OUT OF THIS? >> BECAUSE THE PART THAT I HAVE
[01:21:05] >> BECAUSE THE PART THAT I HAVE TO COMPARE IS ALGOMA.
[01:21:09] TO COMPARE IS ALGOMA. ALGOMA TOOK MONEY.
[01:21:10] ALGOMA TOOK MONEY. $500 MILLION FROM THE GOVERNMENT
[01:21:14] $500 MILLION FROM THE GOVERNMENT TO SHUT DOWN AND LAY OFF
[01:21:17] TO SHUT DOWN AND LAY OFF PERMANENTLY 1,000 WORKERS. PERMANENTLY 1,000 WORKERS. I DON'T DO THESE THINGS.
[01:21:21] I DON'T DO THESE THINGS. >> Rosemary: MR. GONCALVES, >> Rosemary: MR. GONCALVES, WOULD YOU CONSIDER -- WOULD YOU
[01:21:24] WOULD YOU CONSIDER -- WOULD YOU CONSIDER SELLING THE COMPANY?
[01:21:25] CONSIDER SELLING THE COMPANY? >> FOR A GOOD OFFER, YES.
[01:21:28] >> FOR A GOOD OFFER, YES. BUT I ALSO BELIEVE THAT BEING IN BUT I ALSO BELIEVE THAT BEING IN CANADA WITH A GREAT WORKFORCE
[01:21:32] CANADA WITH A GREAT WORKFORCE THAT I HAVE THERE, UNDER THE
[01:21:34] THAT I HAVE THERE, UNDER THE CURRENT TRADE CIRCUMSTANCES,
[01:21:37] CURRENT TRADE CIRCUMSTANCES, ABSOLUTELY WE CAN CONTINUE TO BE
[01:21:39] ABSOLUTELY WE CAN CONTINUE TO BE A GOOD -- A GOOD CITIZEN IN A GOOD -- A GOOD CITIZEN IN CANADA.
[01:21:42] CANADA. WE'LL CONTINUE TO EMPLOY ALL THE
[01:21:45] WE'LL CONTINUE TO EMPLOY ALL THE WORKFORCE THAT I HAVE THERE WHEN WORKFORCE THAT I HAVE THERE WHEN WE BOUGHT THE COMPANY.
[01:21:48] WE BOUGHT THE COMPANY. WE'LL CONTINUE TO BE IN WE'LL CONTINUE TO BE IN COMPLIANCE.
[01:21:52] COMPLIANCE. LIKE I SAID, IT'S A CONTRACT.
[01:21:54] LIKE I SAID, IT'S A CONTRACT. >> Rosemary: LET ME END ON THIS, >> Rosemary: LET ME END ON THIS, MR. GONCALVES.
[01:21:57] MR. GONCALVES. WHAT WOULD YOU SAY TO THE WHAT WOULD YOU SAY TO THE WORKERS WHO BELIEVED THAT YOU
[01:22:00] WORKERS WHO BELIEVED THAT YOU HAVE -- YOU'VE LET THEM DOWN AND HAVE -- YOU'VE LET THEM DOWN AND THAT YOU DIDN'T KEEP UP YOUR END
[01:22:03] THAT YOU DIDN'T KEEP UP YOUR END OF THE DEAL.
[01:22:05] OF THE DEAL. >> I BELIEVE THAT THEY'RE BEING
[01:22:09] >> I BELIEVE THAT THEY'RE BEING PLAYED. PLAYED. I BELIEVE THAT HAVING THE PRIME I BELIEVE THAT HAVING THE PRIME MINISTER OF CANADA, A PERSON
[01:22:13] MINISTER OF CANADA, A PERSON THAT I HAVE NEVER MET, SAY THAT
[01:22:14] THAT I HAVE NEVER MET, SAY THAT I BETRAYED MY EMPLOYEES, THIS IS
[01:22:18] I BETRAYED MY EMPLOYEES, THIS IS NOT TRUE.
[01:22:19] NOT TRUE. THIS WAS PRIME MINISTER CARNEY
[01:22:23] THIS WAS PRIME MINISTER CARNEY REPEATING WHAT MINISTER JOLY REPEATING WHAT MINISTER JOLY SAID WITHOUT THINKING. SAID WITHOUT THINKING. HE'S A BUSY GUY.
[01:22:27] HE'S A BUSY GUY. PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT MR. LEBLANC IS DOING.
[01:22:30] MR. LEBLANC IS DOING. DON'T PAY ATTENTION TO THE DON'T PAY ATTENTION TO THE RHETORIC OF PEOPLE THAT ARE JUST
[01:22:34] RHETORIC OF PEOPLE THAT ARE JUST PLAYING POLITICS. PLAYING POLITICS. >> Rosemary: OKAY.
[01:22:37] >> Rosemary: OKAY. >> WE HAVE A MUCH BIGGER TASK AT >> WE HAVE A MUCH BIGGER TASK AT HAND.
[01:22:41] HAND. HAPPY THANKSGIVING. HAPPY THANKSGIVING. THIS IS THE LAST THANKSGIVING
[01:22:44] THIS IS THE LAST THANKSGIVING THAT YOU'RE OUT OF A JOB. THAT YOU'RE OUT OF A JOB. YOU'RE GOING TO BE BROUGHT BACK YOU'RE GOING TO BE BROUGHT BACK OPINION.
[01:22:47] OPINION. >> Rosemary: LOURENCO GONCALVES, >> Rosemary: LOURENCO GONCALVES, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR MAKING THE THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR MAKING THE TIME TODAY. TIME TODAY. WE APPRECIATE IT,
[01:24:59] What do you want?
[01:25:02] For me, separation is the only solution.
[01:25:05] The vote on October 19th means the birth of a lot of hope.
[01:25:11] This is the time where Albertans get to stand up and
[01:25:15] say we are united, you can't divide and conquer us.
[01:25:17] This is the time where we have to stick together. Here in
[01:25:21] Alberta on October 19th, people will vote whether or not
[01:25:24] they want to pursue the idea of separating from Canada's big
[01:25:28] question. Now both sides are all in crisscrossing the
[01:25:31] province trying to sway the vote their way. Now, of course,
[01:25:34] there's also pressure from the South as President Donald Trump
[01:25:38] continues to threaten to make Canada his 51st state.
[01:25:41] So I've come to Alberta to find out what this vote means for
[01:25:45] the future of Canada.
[01:25:48] It's the end of the day in Cold Lake, AB.
[01:25:51] How you doing?
[01:25:52] Thomas Lukasik is on his final stop. Hello everybody.
[01:25:58] Maybe we can gather together. Can we gather together?
[01:26:01] The people here have been waiting to meet him. Thank you
[01:26:04] everybody for coming out. I, I really appreciate you on a
[01:26:08] Sunday evening. That, that is something. But you know
[01:26:11] what? We've been on the road now for
[01:26:13] I don't know even how many days. Thomas's mission here is simple.
[01:26:17] He wants people to know their vote is crucial. Finally,
[01:26:20] we're realizing that we have to show our pride in Canada and,
[01:26:24] and we have to all as Canadians pull together in unity.
[01:26:28] And, and that's right, that's right.
[01:26:33] The stakes are very high. You know,
[01:26:35] this isn't fun and games. This is,
[01:26:37] this is very serious business. And,
[01:26:39] and there are those that are saying Thomas Alberta will
[01:26:42] never separate from Canada. This is not realistic. I think
[01:26:46] it is realistic. There is a pathway and Brexit has shown us
[01:26:49] what the pathway is. When people feel too confident that
[01:26:53] they are on the winning side, they tend not to vote. Apathy
[01:26:56] sets in and that's how the other side wins. This is
[01:26:59] probably the most important work that we will do as
[01:27:03] Canadians in our life
[01:27:04] Times and the vote that we will be participating in will define
[01:27:08] us. Thank you.
[01:27:14] Thomas vows to visit every single town in the province
[01:27:17] before the vote on the 19th. Thank you again,
[01:27:19] thank you for your leadership, Thank you. And yes, I'm a proud,
[01:27:23] I'm a proud Canadian. You can't be 1 without the other. But not
[01:27:26] everybody feels the same way. See the man there by the gazebo?
[01:27:31] You just put up a sign that supports the idea of looking
[01:27:34] into separation.
[01:27:35] Jesse Heinrich tells me he's just not happy with how things
[01:27:39] are. I'm a hard working Albertan and I want Alberta's
[01:27:43] money to stay in Alberta and I want Alberta to have more of a
[01:27:47] voice in Ottawa. And they kept on. They've,
[01:27:49] they've continually promised that and they've never
[01:27:53] delivered it. You know, I want to,
[01:27:55] I want a better future for my newborn and for my family. I'm
[01:27:59] to the point where separation actually is making more sense
[01:28:03] than staying. That's the conflict, people who want to leave
[01:28:06] because they believe that's the way to prosperity and people
[01:28:10] who think a united Canada is the better choice.
[01:28:15] It's the next day and Thomas Lukasik is on his way to the
[01:28:18] town of Vegreville
[01:28:21] and I think we have enough fuel to get there.
[01:28:24] After 40, 000 kilometers behind the wheel of this bus,
[01:28:28] he tells me he's thought a lot about why the upcoming vote
[01:28:31] matters so much to him. I immigrated to Canada when I was
[01:28:35] 12 years old
[01:28:37] and I left Poland at a time where I would not be able to
[01:28:41] return again to Poland because it was a communist country at
[01:28:45] that time and we came here as refugees. So every day I'm very
[01:28:49] thankful to Canadians, to Canada,
[01:28:52] for the opportunity that Canada has given my family and and
[01:28:56] myself. This is sort of my journey of of paying off my
[01:29:00] debt to Canada.
[01:29:02] Almost went from refugee all the way to become Alberta's
[01:29:05] deputy premier.
[01:29:07] An MLA for almost 15 years,
[01:29:10] and in that time he never thought separation was the way
[01:29:13] to deal with Ottawa. And he thinks that's even more true
[01:29:16] today. This is the worst time possible. It makes us
[01:29:18] vulnerable. Never in the history of the relationship
[01:29:21] between Canada and United States with any president of
[01:29:24] the United States undermine our sovereignty. The threat is real.
[01:29:27] I'm taking it very seriously. And I think that is why
[01:29:30] thousands of Albertans are coming out and meeting with me
[01:29:33] and the Unity Bus, because they realize that the
[01:29:36] the severity of this threat.
[01:29:38] Look around you. You are the future of Alberta. We can do
[01:29:42] this.
[01:29:44] The thing is, there are thousands of people
[01:29:47] across the province coming out in support of separation too.
[01:29:50] Free and independent Alberta.
[01:29:54] One of their leaders is Kathy Flett. She's the cofounder of
[01:29:57] the Alberta Women for Independence Network. I'm
[01:30:00] absolutely all for Alberta being our own, our own country,
[01:30:04] our own nation, our own, our own state, our own Republic,
[01:30:07] whatever word you want to use, but our own entity. Kathy has
[01:30:11] been pushing for Alberta independence for almost a
[01:30:14] decade.
[01:30:15] Her beef, she says, is with Ottawa. We as Albertans
[01:30:18] don't have, we still don't have a voice,
[01:30:21] which means we still don't have a choice and what goes on.
[01:30:24] We're not angry at Canada, we're angry at the government
[01:30:28] system. It's the government structure that's the problem.
[01:30:32] Kathy's complaint is the federal government takes
[01:30:35] Alberta's oil and gas wealth and uses it to help other
[01:30:38] provinces. And for her, separation would end that and
[01:30:41] make Alberta richer. What that means pragmatically,
[01:30:45] I guess on a day today, our paychecks, more of that money will stay in
[01:30:49] our bank account so that we can look after our families because
[01:30:52] it's not going to Ottawa. We'll be able to decide what's best
[01:30:56] for Albertans, not Ottawa deciding what's best
[01:30:58] for Albertans. Many people say this is the wrong time to be
[01:31:01] doing this with the United States breathing down our necks.
[01:31:05] What's your position? This is the perfect time to
[01:31:07] have this referendum
[01:31:09] and here's why. Because we are the only province who has a
[01:31:13] leader who has consistently gone down to the US to try and
[01:31:16] build up relationship with them. And so we've already got a
[01:31:20] foundation to build upon, has a belief that's different.
[01:31:23] Support for separation here is strongest with people who are
[01:31:27] middle-aged, but there are younger voices too,
[01:31:31] called freedom, or in this case, 2 Voices. Sisters,
[01:31:34] what do you want?
[01:31:37] Let's Go
[01:31:40] Madison and Macy Holmes host a political podcast. I'm already
[01:31:43] gutted when I have to ask my 50 year old father to go back to
[01:31:46] the rigs because my ideas, talents and ability to learn
[01:31:49] and create isn't enough for me to make a life for myself.
[01:31:53] If ever there was a ballot in front of me
[01:31:56] on whether or not to vote Alberta out of Canada,
[01:31:59] my pencil will be checking yes. This is not a whim decision.
[01:32:02] We've thought about this really hard and we're because our
[01:32:05] future is worth thinking about.
[01:32:09] I picked 00 as the number because we are 0 years
[01:32:12] independent.
[01:32:14] Madison and Macy's say they want an independent Alberta
[01:32:17] because of the economic troubles they see with their
[01:32:20] generation. Well, it's just the overall quality
[01:32:23] of life. It's like even if some people are getting by,
[01:32:26] that's all it is, is getting by. It is not
[01:32:29] thriving. It's it's not enough. I want more from life and I
[01:32:32] know that a lot of people do. And since me and our Mattie are
[01:32:36] going to be inheriting the next generation of whatever Canada
[01:32:39] is to be, if it continues to go down this
[01:32:42] path, I don't see any future for me or
[01:32:46] my generation because so many people are moving back in with
[01:32:48] their parents, right? They can't afford a first time
[01:32:50] home. And so if there's any chance that there is a
[01:32:53] potential for us to have something better,
[01:32:55] then this is just what this is trying to accomplish. That's
[01:32:59] what independence is trying to accomplish. Well,
[01:33:01] to give you what you've all been waiting for,
[01:33:04] Macy and Madison tell me they'll keep fighting for
[01:33:06] separation no matter the result of the vote. And that's what
[01:33:10] many in the movements say.
[01:33:14] The people who want Alberta to stay in Canada seem to be a
[01:33:18] significant majority. That's what the latest polls suggest.
[01:33:25] Thomas arrives in Vegreville. People here are happy to see
[01:33:28] the Unity bus.
[01:33:31] They tell me they're relieved to have someone who represents
[01:33:34] them. Hello,
[01:33:36] how are you? How are you?
[01:33:40] Thank you so much. Thank you. OK. That's a camera,
[01:33:43] by the way. Have you ever seen one?
[01:33:47] My father fought in World War 2 and died for the very democracy
[01:33:53] independence movement. People realize the damage they're
[01:33:56] doing right now. Love this shirt and you. Do you guys know
[01:33:59] each other?
[01:34:02] I came here today to support Canada. I have a firm believer
[01:34:06] in the our country and the divisions that are being caused
[01:34:10] by a certain few disgust me. So I'm just at that point where
[01:34:14] it's time to fight back, and this is what we're here for.
[01:34:19] Thomas doesn't hang around long.
[01:34:22] Tony's back in the bus driving to the next town. As long as
[01:34:26] this bus holds out, I will hold out for sure.
[01:34:31] I'm fully prepared for having yet another campaign following
[01:34:35] October 19 if we have to. But I'm an optimist. I I think we
[01:34:39] will be sending a very strong message that Alberta will not
[01:34:43] be the weak link in the Confederation that would lead
[01:34:47] to some kind of a breakup.
[01:34:52] YOU'RE WATCHING CBC NEWS NETWORK. MARIANNE DIMAIN. NETWORK. MARIANNE DIMAIN. ALBERTA IS CLOSING IN ON A
[01:34:55] MARIANNE DIMAIN. ALBERTA IS CLOSING IN ON A DECISION WITH THE POWER TO SHAPE ALBERTA IS CLOSING IN ON A DECISION WITH THE POWER TO SHAPE THE FUTURE OF THIS COUNTRY.
[01:34:59] DECISION WITH THE POWER TO SHAPE THE FUTURE OF THIS COUNTRY. IT IS JUST ONE WEEK TO GO BEFORE
[01:35:01] ON SEPARATING FROM THE COUNTRY. PREMIER DANIELLE SMITHED S SAYSF
[01:35:07] PREMIER DANIELLE SMITHED S SAYSF THE MAJORITY OF VOTERS REJECT THE MAJORITY OF VOTERS REJECT SEPARATION, SHE'LL CONSIDER THE
[01:35:10] SEPARATION, SHE'LL CONSIDER THE MATTER CLOSED.
[01:35:14] MATTER CLOSED. CBC NEWS CHIEF POLITICAL CBC NEWS CHIEF POLITICAL CORRESPONDENT ADRIENNE ARSENAULT
[01:35:17] CORRESPONDENT ADRIENNE ARSENAULT SPOKE WITH THE PREMIER IN
[01:35:21] SPOKE WITH THE PREMIER IN CALGARY.
[01:35:24] CALGARY. >> Reporter: THANK YOU VERY >> Reporter: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MUCH. REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.
[01:35:28] REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. A MOMENT WITH PREMIER DANIELLE A MOMENT WITH PREMIER DANIELLE SMITH AND CLARITY ON A QUESTION SMITH AND CLARITY ON A QUESTION THAT LINGERS.
[01:35:31] THAT LINGERS. WHAT HAPPENS THE DAY AFTER THE WHAT HAPPENS THE DAY AFTER THE REFERENDUM?
[01:35:34] REFERENDUM? IF IT COMES TO BE THAT A IF IT COMES TO BE THAT A MAJORITY OF ALBERTANS VOTE
[01:35:37] MAJORITY OF ALBERTANS VOTE OPTION ONE TO KEEP ALBERTA IN OPTION ONE TO KEEP ALBERTA IN CANADA, WILL YOU COMMIT TO NOT
[01:35:41] CANADA, WILL YOU COMMIT TO NOT HOLDING A BINDING REFERENDUM? HOLDING A BINDING REFERENDUM? >> CORRECT. >> CORRECT. YEAH.
[01:35:44] YEAH. I MEAN, THAT'S TO ME WHAT OPTION I MEAN, THAT'S TO ME WHAT OPTION ONE MEANS.
[01:35:47] ONE MEANS. IF YOU VOTE TO REMAIN IN CANADA,
[01:35:49] IF YOU VOTE TO REMAIN IN CANADA, THEN YOU ARE REJECTING OPTION THEN YOU ARE REJECTING OPTION TWO, WHICH IS TO START THE LEGAL
[01:35:53] TWO, WHICH IS TO START THE LEGAL PROCESS TO HOLD A BINDING PROCESS TO HOLD A BINDING REFERENDUM.
[01:35:55] REFERENDUM. SO THAT'S HOW I WOULD TAKE IT. SO THAT'S HOW I WOULD TAKE IT. >> Reporter: THIS WON'T CROP UP >> Reporter: THIS WON'T CROP UP AGAIN?
[01:35:59] AGAIN? >> NOT AS LONG AS I'M PREMIER. >> NOT AS LONG AS I'M PREMIER. >> Reporter: NOT AS LONG AS SHE
[01:36:02] >> Reporter: NOT AS LONG AS SHE IS PREMIER. IS PREMIER. IN A ONE-ON-ONE INTERVIEW WITH
[01:36:05] IN A ONE-ON-ONE INTERVIEW WITH "THE NATIONAL," SMITH RULING OUT
[01:36:08] A SECOND REFERENDUM IF THE MAJORITY OF ALBERTANS VOTE TO MAJORITY OF ALBERTANS VOTE TO REMAIN IN CANADA IN JUST OVER A
[01:36:11] REMAIN IN CANADA IN JUST OVER A WEEK'S TIME.
[01:36:16] WEEK'S TIME. [HONKING] [HONKING] THOSE PUSHING FOR SEPARATIST THOSE PUSHING FOR SEPARATIST WON'T STOP NO MATTER THE RESULT.
[01:36:20] WON'T STOP NO MATTER THE RESULT. >> I WILL ACCEPT THE RESULTS FOR >> I WILL ACCEPT THE RESULTS FOR WHAT THEY ARE.
[01:36:23] WHAT THEY ARE. THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE'RE GOING TO
[01:36:26] THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE'RE GOING TO QUIT IF WE DON'T LIKE THEM. QUIT IF WE DON'T LIKE THEM. >> CANADA IS WORKING BETTER THAN
[01:36:29] >> CANADA IS WORKING BETTER THAN IT EVER HAS.
[01:36:36] IT EVER HAS. SEPARATION ISN'T THE ONLY SEPARATION ISN'T THE ONLY QUESTION ON THE BALLOT. QUESTION ON THE BALLOT. NINE OTHERS IF ALL SUPPORTED BY
[01:36:39] NINE OTHERS IF ALL SUPPORTED BY SMITH. SMITH. WHAT WOULD BE THE PERCENTAGE TO WHAT WOULD BE THE PERCENTAGE TO THE R-FOR THE OTHER NINE
[01:36:43] THE R-FOR THE OTHER NINE QUESTIONS, THOUGH? QUESTIONS, THOUGH? >> AGAIN I BELIEVE IN DEMOCRACY. >> AGAIN I BELIEVE IN DEMOCRACY. I BELIEVE A MAJORITY RULE SEEMS
[01:36:47] I BELIEVE A MAJORITY RULE SEEMS TO BE THE WAY THAT MOST TO BE THE WAY THAT MOST DECISIONS ARE MADE.
[01:36:50] DECISIONS ARE MADE. AND SO IF THEY'RE REJECTED, I AND SO IF THEY'RE REJECTED, I WOULD ACCEPT THAT.
[01:36:53] WOULD ACCEPT THAT. SO I'M HOPING TO GET OVER 50%. SO I'M HOPING TO GET OVER 50%. >> Reporter: OKAY. >> Reporter: OKAY. THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO BE CLEAR
[01:36:57] THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO BE CLEAR ON. ON. 50%. 50%. >> HAS TO BE OVER 50%.
[01:37:00] >> HAS TO BE OVER 50%. IF THEY'RE REJECTED, YOU KNOW IF THEY'RE REJECTED, YOU KNOW WHAT, WE'LL HAVE TO PURSUE OTHER
[01:37:04] WHAT, WE'LL HAVE TO PURSUE OTHER THINGS -- FIND OUT OTHER THINGS
[01:37:06] THINGS -- FIND OUT OTHER THINGS ALBERTANS ARE CONCERNED ABOUT.
[01:37:09] ALBERTANS ARE CONCERNED ABOUT. >> Reporter: ALBERTA IS A YEAR >> Reporter: ALBERTA IS A YEAR OUT FROM ANOTHER PROVINCIAL
[01:37:13] OUT FROM ANOTHER PROVINCIAL ELECTION. ELECTION. THE U.C.P. CONVENTION HAD ROCKY THE U.C.P. CONVENTION HAD ROCKY MOMENTS FOR THE PREMIER.
[01:37:16] MOMENTS FOR THE PREMIER. >> FEEL A LOT MORE CONFIDENT
[01:37:18] >> FEEL A LOT MORE CONFIDENT THAN CANADA WORKS THAN A COUPLE
[01:37:23] OF DAYS AGO. [BOOING] [BOOING] >> Reporter: NOW AS THEN THE >> Reporter: NOW AS THEN THE SEPARATIST VOICES WITHIN HER OWN
[01:37:26] SEPARATIST VOICES WITHIN HER OWN PARTY ARE LOUD. PARTY ARE LOUD. POLLING SUGGESTING JUST OVER
[01:37:29] POLLING SUGGESTING JUST OVER HALF OF U.C.P. VOTERS ARE NOW AT
[01:37:31] HALF OF U.C.P. VOTERS ARE NOW AT ODDS WITH HER POSITION ON THE ODDS WITH HER POSITION ON THE UNITY QUESTION.
[01:37:35] UNITY QUESTION. AND WHILE SMITH SAYS SHE SPEAKS AND WHILE SMITH SAYS SHE SPEAKS WITH PEOPLE ON BOTH SIDES, WHEN
[01:37:38] WITH PEOPLE ON BOTH SIDES, WHEN IT COMES TO SEPARATIST LEADERS IT COMES TO SEPARATIST LEADERS -- -- >> AS YOU'VE PROBABLY SEEN, I'M
[01:37:42] >> AS YOU'VE PROBABLY SEEN, I'M KIND OF PUBLIC ENEMY NUMBER ONE KIND OF PUBLIC ENEMY NUMBER ONE FOR THE GROUP. FOR THE GROUP. THEY DON'T LIKE THE FACT THAT
[01:37:46] THEY DON'T LIKE THE FACT THAT I'VE TAKEN SUCH A STRONG I'VE TAKEN SUCH A STRONG POSITION ON REMAIN. POSITION ON REMAIN. NO, I'M NOT IN CONTACT WITH ANY
[01:37:50] NO, I'M NOT IN CONTACT WITH ANY OF THEM. OF THEM. >> Reporter: HER POSITION FOR
[01:37:52] >> Reporter: HER POSITION FOR ALBERTA TO REMAIN IN. ALBERTA TO REMAIN IN. >> David: IS WHAT THE MAJORITY >> David: IS WHAT THE MAJORITY OF ALBERTANS CONSISTENTLY OF ALBERTANS CONSISTENTLY BELIEVE
[01:37:58] What kind of future do Albertans want for their
[01:38:00] province? The upcoming referendum will
[01:38:02] reveal where voters stand. To learn what the choices mean,
[01:38:06] stay tuned to CBC News for full coverage. The Alberta
[01:38:09] referendum October 19th. Make an informed choice.
[01:40:15] >> Marianne: POPE LEO SAID TODAY THAT HE'LL HAVE SURGERY TO
[01:40:17] THAT HE'LL HAVE SURGERY TO REMOVE A NODULAR LESION ON HIS REMOVE A NODULAR LESION ON HIS LUNG.
[01:40:21] LUNG. HE MADE THE ANNOUNCEMENT DURING HE MADE THE ANNOUNCEMENT DURING HIS NOON BLESSING AT THE HIS NOON BLESSING AT THE VATICAN.
[01:40:24] VATICAN. THE CBC'S MEGAN WILLIAMS IS
[01:40:26] THE CBC'S MEGAN WILLIAMS IS FOLLOWING THE STORY FROM ROME.
[01:40:28] AND TELLS US MORE ABOUT THE PONTIFF'S MEDICAL SITUATION. PONTIFF'S MEDICAL SITUATION. >> Reporter: IT WAS POPE LEO WHO
[01:40:32] >> Reporter: IT WAS POPE LEO WHO MADE THE ANNOUNCEMENT HIMSELF
[01:40:33] MADE THE ANNOUNCEMENT HIMSELF ABOUT THIS UPCOMING SURGERY
[01:40:36] ABOUT THIS UPCOMING SURGERY TODAY IN ST. PETER'S SQUARE TODAY IN ST. PETER'S SQUARE DURING THE SUNDAY ANGELES.
[01:40:39] DURING THE SUNDAY ANGELES. HE TOLD THE PILGRIMS GATHERED
[01:40:41] HE TOLD THE PILGRIMS GATHERED BELOW THAT HE WAS GOING TO HAVE
[01:40:44] BELOW THAT HE WAS GOING TO HAVE THIS NODULE REMOVED IN THE NEXT THIS NODULE REMOVED IN THE NEXT DAYS.
[01:40:47] DAYS. HE SAID THAT IT WAS DISCOVERED HE SAID THAT IT WAS DISCOVERED DURING A ROUTINE MEDICAL CHECK.
[01:40:51] DURING A ROUTINE MEDICAL CHECK. IT IS CIRCUMSCRIBED, WHICH I'M
[01:40:53] IT IS CIRCUMSCRIBED, WHICH I'M ASSUMING IT MEANS -- HE SAYS IT ASSUMING IT MEANS -- HE SAYS IT HAS NOT SPREAD.
[01:40:57] HAS NOT SPREAD. HE SAID IT WAS DISCOVERED VERY
[01:40:59] HE SAID IT WAS DISCOVERED VERY EARLY ON, WHICH IS, OF COURSE,
[01:41:01] EARLY ON, WHICH IS, OF COURSE, VERY GOOD THING.
[01:41:04] VERY GOOD THING. THE VATICAN WOULDN'T SAY EXACTLY
[01:41:06] THE VATICAN WOULDN'T SAY EXACTLY WHEN HE'S GOING TO HAVE THE WHEN HE'S GOING TO HAVE THE SURGERY.
[01:41:09] SURGERY. ITALIAN MEDIA IS REPORTING THAT ITALIAN MEDIA IS REPORTING THAT IT IS NOT TOMORROW.
[01:41:12] IT IS NOT TOMORROW. SO LIKELY TUESDAY OR WEDNESDAY. SO LIKELY TUESDAY OR WEDNESDAY. THEY SAID EARLY THIS WEEK
[01:41:16] THEY SAID EARLY THIS WEEK SOMETIME. SOMETIME. HE'LL GO TO GEMELLI HOSPITAL
[01:41:20] HE'LL GO TO GEMELLI HOSPITAL HERE IN ROME, WHICH IS THE HERE IN ROME, WHICH IS THE HOSPITAL THAT HAS A PAPAL SUITE.
[01:41:24] HOSPITAL THAT HAS A PAPAL SUITE. THIS IS THE HOSPITAL THAT POPE
[01:41:26] THIS IS THE HOSPITAL THAT POPE FRANCIS AND BEFORE HIM POPE JOHN
[01:41:30] FRANCIS AND BEFORE HIM POPE JOHN PAUL II AND POPE BENEDICT ALL PAUL II AND POPE BENEDICT ALL STAYED IN THE HOSPITAL WHERE THE
[01:41:33] STAYED IN THE HOSPITAL WHERE THE POPES ARE TREATED. POPES ARE TREATED. HE'LL GO IN THERE AND THE
[01:41:36] HE'LL GO IN THERE AND THE VATICAN SAYS HE'LL LIKELY BE OUT VATICAN SAYS HE'LL LIKELY BE OUT WITHIN A WEEK. WITHIN A WEEK. THIS IS A POPE WHO IS IN PRETTY
[01:41:40] THIS IS A POPE WHO IS IN PRETTY GOOD PHYSICAL SHAPE. GOOD PHYSICAL SHAPE. HE'S, YOU KNOW, 71 YEARS OLD.
[01:41:43] HE'S, YOU KNOW, 71 YEARS OLD. HE PLAYS TENNIS REGULARLY.
[01:41:46] HE PLAYS TENNIS REGULARLY. AND HE ALSO SWIMS.
[01:41:48] AND HE ALSO SWIMS. HE'S A YOUNG POPE AND A POPE
[01:41:53] HE'S A YOUNG POPE AND A POPE THAT PRIORITIZES PHYSICAL THAT PRIORITIZES PHYSICAL ACTIVITY AND BEING IN GOOD
[01:41:56] ACTIVITY AND BEING IN GOOD SHAPE. SHAPE. >> Marianne: EVEN STILL WITH THE >> Marianne: EVEN STILL WITH THE RECOVERY AND THE TIME AND THE
[01:42:00] RECOVERY AND THE TIME AND THE SURGERY, HOW IS THIS EXPECTED TO SURGERY, HOW IS THIS EXPECTED TO AFFECT HIS SCHEDULE?
[01:42:03] AFFECT HIS SCHEDULE? >> Reporter: WELL, THE NEXT BIG
[01:42:05] >> Reporter: WELL, THE NEXT BIG TRIP FOR THE POPE IS A
[01:42:08] TRIP FOR THE POPE IS A NOVEMBER 7th. NOVEMBER 7th. IT'S ABOUT A TEN-DAY TRIP.
[01:42:11] IT'S ABOUT A TEN-DAY TRIP. HE'S GOING TO SOUTH AMERICA.
[01:42:13] HE'S GOING TO SOUTH AMERICA. HE WILL BE GOING TO URUGUAY, TO
[01:42:16] HE WILL BE GOING TO URUGUAY, TO ARGENTINA WHICH IS, OF COURSE, ARGENTINA WHICH IS, OF COURSE, WHERE POPE FRANCIS CAME FROM.
[01:42:19] WHERE POPE FRANCIS CAME FROM. AND ALSO PERU WHERE POPE LEO IS
[01:42:23] AND ALSO PERU WHERE POPE LEO IS A CITIZEN. A CITIZEN. HE LIVED THERE FOR TWO DECADES
[01:42:26] HE LIVED THERE FOR TWO DECADES OR SO.
[01:42:28] OR SO. SO IT'S A VERY IMPORTANT TRIP.
[01:42:31] SO IT'S A VERY IMPORTANT TRIP. THE VATICAN ISN'T SAYING IT'S THE VATICAN ISN'T SAYING IT'S CANCELLED. CANCELLED. I EXPECT IT WILL BE VERY
[01:42:35] I EXPECT IT WILL BE VERY IMPORTANT FOR HIM TO BE ON THAT IMPORTANT FOR HIM TO BE ON THAT TRIP. TRIP. >> Marianne: THAT'S
[01:42:42] Bonjour Tillemont. If nothing was done,
[01:42:44] it would become legal in March for people with a mental
[01:42:48] illness to seek medical assistance in dying. But now
[01:42:51] Justice Minister Sean Fraser says that won't happen. The
[01:42:54] government will be tabling legislation this fall that will
[01:42:57] maintain that exclusion on an indeterminate basis. After all,
[01:43:01] we're talking about ending another human beings life and I
[01:43:04] think we should have the strictest sort of oversight and
[01:43:08] criteria around that. Munn bioethics professor Darrell
[01:43:11] Pullman is applauding
[01:43:12] federal decision. This decision now by the federal government
[01:43:17] seems to say, well, let let's slow down here,
[01:43:20] at least in this place and take a look at it. Pullman believes
[01:43:24] the criteria for who should be able to receive made needs
[01:43:29] further examination. Well, I've been generally concerned
[01:43:33] since 2016 when the legislation first came into effect that the
[01:43:38] eligibility criteria for for made were,
[01:43:40] were very loose in terms of the how they were interpreted.
[01:43:46] I mean, generally, generally Canadians are in
[01:43:49] favour of, you know, having access to medical
[01:43:52] assistance in dying, but
[01:43:54] I think for the vast majority of Canadians,
[01:43:57] they believe that's for people with terminal illness. Medical
[01:44:01] assistance in dying is available to Canadians with a
[01:44:04] grievous and irremediable illness. Palliative care
[01:44:07] physician Susan McDonald believes there could be
[01:44:10] instances where that definition applies to a person with a
[01:44:14] mental illness. She's questioning the federal
[01:44:17] government's decision concern over one group of people who
[01:44:20] have been
[01:44:22] discriminated against. If you want to look at that that way,
[01:44:27] in that they can't have something that all other
[01:44:30] Canadians can apply for. As a physician who provides
[01:44:34] palliative care, McDonald sees many people near
[01:44:37] the end of their lives. I have seen patients who have had
[01:44:40] chronic mental illness
[01:44:43] and then they are referred to me because they develop a
[01:44:48] cancer or another illness
[01:44:50] and one of the first things out of their mouth is,
[01:44:54] thank God I have this cancer. Now I qualify to have medical
[01:44:58] aid in dying and that breaks my heart because I see people who
[01:45:03] have suffered and suffered and suffered
[01:45:06] who have wanted to have this procedure but have been denied
[01:45:10] it specifically because of the type of illness that they have.
[01:45:15] The federal government hasn't said exactly when this fall it
[01:45:19] will introduce changes to redefine made legislation in
[01:45:23] Canada. Mark Quinn, CBC News, St. John's.
[01:45:29] >> MY PLEASURE. >> Marianne: NOW TO A NEW REPORT >> Marianne: NOW TO A NEW REPORT BY CANADIAN MENTAL HEALTH
[01:45:33] BY CANADIAN MENTAL HEALTH NETWORK JACK.ORG SAYS ONE IN NETWORK JACK.ORG SAYS ONE IN THREE CANADIANS, YOUNG CANADIANS
[01:45:37] THREE CANADIANS, YOUNG CANADIANS USE GENERATIVE A.I. TOOLS AT
[01:45:40] USE GENERATIVE A.I. TOOLS AT LEAST ONCE A MONTH TO SUPPORT LEAST ONCE A MONTH TO SUPPORT THEIR MENTAL HEALTH.
[01:45:43] THEIR MENTAL HEALTH. NEARLY HALF SAY THEY'VE NOT TOLD NEARLY HALF SAY THEY'VE NOT TOLD ANYONE ABOUT THEIR USE OF A.I.
[01:45:45] ANYONE ABOUT THEIR USE OF A.I. FOR MENTAL HEALTH. FOR MENTAL HEALTH. SOME EXPERTS ARE EXPRESSING SOME EXPERTS ARE EXPRESSING CONCERNS SAYING A.I. TOOLS
[01:45:49] CONCERNS SAYING A.I. TOOLS SHOULD NOT BE USED TO IT SHOULD NOT BE USED TO IT SUBSTITUTE A HUMAN THERAPIST.
[01:45:52] SUBSTITUTE A HUMAN THERAPIST. THE REPORT COMES AS THE PUSH TO THE REPORT COMES AS THE PUSH TO SLOW DOWN A.I. DEVELOPMENT AND
[01:45:56] SLOW DOWN A.I. DEVELOPMENT AND PLACE GUARDRAILS AROUND IT GAINS PLACE GUARDRAILS AROUND IT GAINS MOMENTUM AROUND THE WORLD.
[01:45:59] MOMENTUM AROUND THE WORLD. DR. PETER SELBY IS AN ADDICTION
[01:46:02] DR. PETER SELBY IS AN ADDICTION MEDICINE PHYSICIAN AND SENIOR MEDICINE PHYSICIAN AND SENIOR SCIENTIST IN TORONTO AND HAS
[01:46:06] SCIENTIST IN TORONTO AND HAS MORE ON THE CONCERNS WITH MORE ON THE CONCERNS WITH REPLACING PERSON-TO-PERSON
[01:46:10] REPLACING PERSON-TO-PERSON THERAPY WITH ARTIFICIAL THERAPY WITH ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE. INTELLIGENCE. >> TEMPERATURE DOES NOT HAVE
[01:46:14] >> TEMPERATURE DOES NOT HAVE CONTEXT OF THE PERSON AND THE CONTEXT OF THE PERSON AND THE SITUATION AROUND.
[01:46:16] SITUATION AROUND. AND IT DOESN'T HAVE THAT THE AND IT DOESN'T HAVE THAT THE ABILITY TO DISTINGUISH WHETHER
[01:46:20] ABILITY TO DISTINGUISH WHETHER SOMEBODY IS DEVELOPING, FOR SOMEBODY IS DEVELOPING, FOR EXAMPLE, PARANOIA OR DEVELOPING
[01:46:24] EXAMPLE, PARANOIA OR DEVELOPING PSYCHOSIS OR HALLUCINATING
[01:46:27] PSYCHOSIS OR HALLUCINATING THEMSELVES OR IS ACTUALLY IN
[01:46:30] THEMSELVES OR IS ACTUALLY IN TROUBLE WITH HAVING, YOU KNOW,
[01:46:32] TROUBLE WITH HAVING, YOU KNOW, SUICIDAL IDEATION WHETHER THEY
[01:46:37] SUICIDAL IDEATION WHETHER THEY COULD HURT THEMSELVES OR HURT COULD HURT THEMSELVES OR HURT OTHERS.
[01:46:40] OTHERS. THESE AGENTS WHICH ARE JUST OPEN THESE AGENTS WHICH ARE JUST OPEN TO THE PUBLIC WITHOUT ANY KIND
[01:46:43] TO THE PUBLIC WITHOUT ANY KIND OF RESTRICTIONS FOR THOSE KINDS
[01:46:45] OF RESTRICTIONS FOR THOSE KINDS OF ACTIVITIES ARE POTENTIALLY
[01:46:49] OF ACTIVITIES ARE POTENTIALLY DANGEROUS. DANGEROUS. IT WOULD BE LIKE RELEASING A NEW IT WOULD BE LIKE RELEASING A NEW MEDICATION FOR A CONDITION.
[01:46:54] MEDICATION FOR A CONDITION. IT MAY BE QUITE EFFECTIVE. IT MAY BE QUITE EFFECTIVE. WITHOUT ACTUALLY HAVING IT BEING
[01:46:56] WITHOUT ACTUALLY HAVING IT BEING TESTED, WITHOUT GETTING TESTED, WITHOUT GETTING AUTHORIZED AND CONTROLLED AS TO
[01:46:59] AUTHORIZED AND CONTROLLED AS TO WHETHER IT'S AN OVER-THE-COUNTER WHETHER IT'S AN OVER-THE-COUNTER PRODUCT OR A PRESCRIPTION
[01:47:03] PRODUCT OR A PRESCRIPTION PRODUCT OR WHETHER IT HAS TO BE PRODUCT OR WHETHER IT HAS TO BE ADMINISTERED WITHIN A HOSPITAL, ADMINISTERED WITHIN A HOSPITAL, RIGHT.
[01:47:06] RIGHT. THOSE ARE HOW WE WOULD PUT A NEW THOSE ARE HOW WE WOULD PUT A NEW TREATMENT ON THE MARKET.
[01:47:10] TREATMENT ON THE MARKET. THIS, UNFORTUNATELY, HAS JUST THIS, UNFORTUNATELY, HAS JUST COME OUT WITHOUT ANY -- ANY
[01:47:14] COME OUT WITHOUT ANY -- ANY THOUGHT TO THAT KIND OF USE
[01:47:20] THOUGHT TO THAT KIND OF USE CASES. CASES. >> Marianne: DR. PETER SELBY IS >> Marianne: DR. PETER SELBY IS AN ADDICTION MEDICINE
[01:47:26] SCHEDULE. MERCEDES GAZTAMBIDE REPORTS. >> Reporter: IF YOU FEEL LIKE
[01:47:30] MERCEDES GAZTAMBIDE REPORTS. >> Reporter: IF YOU FEEL LIKE YOU'RE SURROUNDED BY PEOPLE
[01:47:32] >> Reporter: IF YOU FEEL LIKE YOU'RE SURROUNDED BY PEOPLE COUGHING AND SNEEZING AT WORK OR
[01:47:34] YOU'RE SURROUNDED BY PEOPLE COUGHING AND SNEEZING AT WORK OR NOTICING MORE SICK CALLS THAN COUGHING AND SNEEZING AT WORK OR NOTICING MORE SICK CALLS THAN USUAL, YOU'RE NOT IMAGINING
[01:47:38] NOTICING MORE SICK CALLS THAN USUAL, YOU'RE NOT IMAGINING THINGS. USUAL, YOU'RE NOT IMAGINING THINGS. FLU SEASON IS UPON US, AND THIS
[01:47:42] THINGS. FLU SEASON IS UPON US, AND THIS INFECTIOUS DISEASE SPECIALIST FLU SEASON IS UPON US, AND THIS INFECTIOUS DISEASE SPECIALIST SAYS IT'S HERE A USUALLY EARLIER
[01:47:45] INFECTIOUS DISEASE SPECIALIST SAYS IT'S HERE A USUALLY EARLIER THAN USUAL. SAYS IT'S HERE A USUALLY EARLIER THAN USUAL. >> USUALLY THE TAIL END OF
[01:47:49] THAN USUAL. >> USUALLY THE TAIL END OF OCTOBER/EARLY NOVEMBER. >> USUALLY THE TAIL END OF OCTOBER/EARLY NOVEMBER. IF WE LOOK AT FLU, WE LOOK AT
[01:47:53] OCTOBER/EARLY NOVEMBER. IF WE LOOK AT FLU, WE LOOK AT THE PERCENTAGE OF TEST THAT IS IF WE LOOK AT FLU, WE LOOK AT THE PERCENTAGE OF TEST THAT IS WERE POSITIVE OVER THE SUMMER
[01:47:57] THE PERCENTAGE OF TEST THAT IS WERE POSITIVE OVER THE SUMMER MONTHS. WERE POSITIVE OVER THE SUMMER MONTHS. IT WAS REALLY LOW. MONTHS. IT WAS REALLY LOW. 0.4.
[01:48:01] IT WAS REALLY LOW. 0.4. AND NOW IT'S JUST OVER 1%. 0.4. AND NOW IT'S JUST OVER 1%. ABOUT 1.3, 1.5% OF TESTS, SO,
[01:48:05] AND NOW IT'S JUST OVER 1%. ABOUT 1.3, 1.5% OF TESTS, SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S AN EARLY RISE.
[01:48:07] ABOUT 1.3, 1.5% OF TESTS, SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S AN EARLY RISE. >> Reporter: PUBLIC HEALTH YOU KNOW, IT'S AN EARLY RISE. >> Reporter: PUBLIC HEALTH ONTARIO REPORTED 202 CONFIRMED
[01:48:11] >> Reporter: PUBLIC HEALTH ONTARIO REPORTED 202 CONFIRMED CASES OF INFLUENZA IN THE THIRD
[01:48:13] ONTARIO REPORTED 202 CONFIRMED CASES OF INFLUENZA IN THE THIRD WEEK OF SEPTEMBER, AND ACROSS CASES OF INFLUENZA IN THE THIRD WEEK OF SEPTEMBER, AND ACROSS CANADA, 815 CASES WERE REPORTED
[01:48:17] WEEK OF SEPTEMBER, AND ACROSS CANADA, 815 CASES WERE REPORTED THAT SAME WEEK. CANADA, 815 CASES WERE REPORTED THAT SAME WEEK. THIS FAMILY DOCTOR SAYS EVIDENCE
[01:48:20] THAT SAME WEEK. THIS FAMILY DOCTOR SAYS EVIDENCE OF THE FLU'S EARLY ARRIVAL IS IN THIS FAMILY DOCTOR SAYS EVIDENCE OF THE FLU'S EARLY ARRIVAL IS IN HIS WAITING ROOM.
[01:48:24] OF THE FLU'S EARLY ARRIVAL IS IN HIS WAITING ROOM. >> OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF HIS WAITING ROOM. >> OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS, WE'RE SEEING OTHER
[01:48:28] >> OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS, WE'RE SEEING OTHER SYMPTOMS THAT ARE NOR INDICATIVE WEEKS, WE'RE SEEING OTHER SYMPTOMS THAT ARE NOR INDICATIVE OF FLU.
[01:48:31] SYMPTOMS THAT ARE NOR INDICATIVE OF FLU. SO, IN PARTICULAR, I'VE BEEN OF FLU. SO, IN PARTICULAR, I'VE BEEN SEEING A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE
[01:48:35] SO, IN PARTICULAR, I'VE BEEN SEEING A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE RAPID ONSET FEVERS, SO THAT'S
[01:48:37] SEEING A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE RAPID ONSET FEVERS, SO THAT'S ONE OF THE FIRST MAJOR SIGNS.
[01:48:39] RAPID ONSET FEVERS, SO THAT'S ONE OF THE FIRST MAJOR SIGNS. WE'RE, LIKE, HEY, THIS IS A ONE OF THE FIRST MAJOR SIGNS. WE'RE, LIKE, HEY, THIS IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT COMPARED TO THE
[01:48:43] WE'RE, LIKE, HEY, THIS IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT COMPARED TO THE USUAL SEASONAL COLD. LITTLE DIFFERENT COMPARED TO THE USUAL SEASONAL COLD. >> Reporter: MANY PEOPLE DON'T
[01:48:47] USUAL SEASONAL COLD. >> Reporter: MANY PEOPLE DON'T GET TESTED WHEN WE HAVE CLASSIC >> Reporter: MANY PEOPLE DON'T GET TESTED WHEN WE HAVE CLASSIC SYMPTOMS LIKE A COUGH OR RUNNY
[01:48:51] GET TESTED WHEN WE HAVE CLASSIC SYMPTOMS LIKE A COUGH OR RUNNY NOSE, LEADING TO LOW NUMBERS OF SYMPTOMS LIKE A COUGH OR RUNNY NOSE, LEADING TO LOW NUMBERS OF REPORTED TRANSMISSION.
[01:48:55] NOSE, LEADING TO LOW NUMBERS OF REPORTED TRANSMISSION. >> I'LL STILL GO TO WORK W I'LL
[01:48:57] REPORTED TRANSMISSION. >> I'LL STILL GO TO WORK W I'LL STILL GO TO SCHOOL.
[01:49:01] STILL GO TO SCHOOL. WE'RE HAVING AN EARLY SEASON. TAKE THE PRECAUTIONS NOW. WE'RE HAVING AN EARLY SEASON. TAKE THE PRECAUTIONS NOW. >> Reporter: VACCINES ARE
[01:49:05] TAKE THE PRECAUTIONS NOW. >> Reporter: VACCINES ARE ROLLING OUT ACROSS.PROVINCE >> Reporter: VACCINES ARE ROLLING OUT ACROSS.PROVINCE RIGHT NOW FOR PEOPLE AT HIGHER
[01:49:09] ROLLING OUT ACROSS.PROVINCE RIGHT NOW FOR PEOPLE AT HIGHER RISK. RIGHT NOW FOR PEOPLE AT HIGHER RISK. LIKE SENIORS 65 YEARS OF AGE AND
[01:49:12] RISK. LIKE SENIORS 65 YEARS OF AGE AND OLDER AND PEOPLE IN HOSPITAL.
[01:49:14] LIKE SENIORS 65 YEARS OF AGE AND OLDER AND PEOPLE IN HOSPITAL. THE GENERAL PUBLIC WILL HAVE
[01:49:16] OLDER AND PEOPLE IN HOSPITAL. THE GENERAL PUBLIC WILL HAVE ACCESS AS THE OF OCTOBER 26. THE GENERAL PUBLIC WILL HAVE ACCESS AS THE OF OCTOBER 26. IT'S ALSO A GOOD IDEA TO VISIT
[01:49:20] ACCESS AS THE OF OCTOBER 26. IT'S ALSO A GOOD IDEA TO VISIT YOUR DOCTOR IF YOU'RE IT'S ALSO A GOOD IDEA TO VISIT YOUR DOCTOR IF YOU'RE EXPERIENCING SYMPTOMS, AS THEY
[01:49:24] YOUR DOCTOR IF YOU'RE EXPERIENCING SYMPTOMS, AS THEY MIGHT BE ABLE TO PRESCRIBE MORE EXPERIENCING SYMPTOMS, AS THEY MIGHT BE ABLE TO PRESCRIBE MORE THAN TYLENOL, LIKE AN
[01:49:28] MIGHT BE ABLE TO PRESCRIBE MORE THAN TYLENOL, LIKE AN ANTI-VIRAL. THAN TYLENOL, LIKE AN ANTI-VIRAL. >> IF WE START TREATMENT EARLY,
[01:49:31] ANTI-VIRAL. >> IF WE START TREATMENT EARLY, IF YOU IMMEDIATE THE >> IF WE START TREATMENT EARLY, IF YOU IMMEDIATE THE REQUIREMENTS, THE SEVERITY OF
[01:51:40] Yeah, Alicia Linklater says it's a
[01:51:42] struggle to keep up with the cost of raising a child. Pretty
[01:51:46] much everything a baby needs is gone up,
[01:51:49] like expensive. Whether it's diapers, wipes,
[01:51:52] a crib or a stroller, Linklater says everything costs
[01:51:56] a lot of money. She's staying at Villa Rosa,
[01:51:59] a live in program for prenatal and postpartum moms. Linklater
[01:52:04] says she receives $416 from the federal government to cover non
[01:52:08] rental needs
[01:52:10] like food for her and her baby. Quite often I go to buy her
[01:52:14] formula.
[01:52:15] Yeah. And I spent like almost $400.00 a month on just milk.
[01:52:19] Data from Statistics Canada shows the cost of a 900 gram
[01:52:23] can of formula has gone up by 72% over the last seven years.
[01:52:27] Carolyn Eva is Villa Rosa's executive director. She says
[01:52:31] with diaper and formula donations dropping and rents
[01:52:34] increasing, the nonprofit has had to adapt
[01:52:37] to their program. Used to be moms had to leave at 30 days
[01:52:41] postpartum unless they were moving next door to our second
[01:52:44] stage housing.
[01:52:46] So now we're keeping moms three or four or five months here in
[01:52:49] our main residence. She says they're also providing formula
[01:52:53] for those who stay longer and they're getting funding from
[01:52:57] the province to help cover that cost.
[01:53:00] Carrie Richards sees the same gap in donations. They're the
[01:53:04] executive director of Acorn Family Place. It offers
[01:53:07] programming and resources for families with young kids. The
[01:53:11] centre relies on donations. Richard says demand from
[01:53:14] parents is getting higher regularly with formula,
[01:53:17] the last half a year, it's often more often than not,
[01:53:20] we don't have any formula to give and to provide the
[01:53:24] community. Richards would like to see the cost of formula
[01:53:27] subsidized. When people are in that place because
[01:53:30] they need help and support, they have nothing else
[01:53:34] to come and then ask for help and support and not be able to
[01:53:38] receive, it is heartbreaking and
[01:53:40] defeating to people. Richards recognizes the pressures on
[01:53:44] families in need and donors and says the rising cost of living
[01:53:47] is making life harder for everyone. Alicia Wang, CBC News,
[01:53:51] Winnipeg.
[01:55:58] Environment Canada says probably not. It'll be a
[01:56:01] distant memory, but it just serves as a good
[01:56:03] reminder of trying to get ready for for winter. Edmonton saw
[01:56:07] some flurries Saturday, bringing out hats and hoods for
[01:56:10] many pedestrians, but it didn't last. Calgary
[01:56:13] snow started later than originally expected,
[01:56:15] with residents waking up to a light blanket Sunday morning.
[01:56:19] Environment Canada says this is the normal time of year to see
[01:56:23] snow beginning, but the still warm ground
[01:56:25] and mild temperatures only just around freezing mean it will
[01:56:29] mostly melt. Something that could be more common this
[01:56:32] winter. With a strong climate pattern building in Western
[01:56:35] Canada, El Nino conditions tend to give
[01:56:38] a warmer than average winters and drier than average winters,
[01:56:41] but that doesn't mean no snow or cold temperatures. Instead,
[01:56:45] the province could see more freezing rain and less cold
[01:56:48] injections. You know those possibilities of brown
[01:56:51] Christmases and that type of thing. There's it's always the
[01:56:55] the big
[01:56:57] question when it comes to these El Nino events. Temperatures
[01:56:59] are expected to get back up into the double digits soon.
[01:57:03] Chelsea Mutter, CBC News, Calgary.
[02:00:29] I'm Adrian Arceneaux, chief correspondent for CBC News. Here's what's making news right now.
[02:00:36] ANOTHER MAJOR STORY WE'RE FOLLOWING.
[02:00:41] FOLLOWING. THE ARABIAN PENINSULA IS
[02:00:42] THE ARABIAN PENINSULA IS EMERGING AT LATEST FLASH POINT
[02:00:45] EMERGING AT LATEST FLASH POINT IN THE WIDENING WAR IN THE IN THE WIDENING WAR IN THE MIDDLE EAST. MIDDLE EAST. THE INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT HAS
[02:00:49] THE INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT HAS BEEN TARGETED TODAY. BEEN TARGETED TODAY. JUST 24 HOURS AFTER THE COUNTRY
[02:00:52] JUST 24 HOURS AFTER THE COUNTRY WAS LEFT REELING FROM ITS WAS LEFT REELING FROM ITS DEADLIEST ATTACK IN MORE THAN A
[02:00:55] DEADLIEST ATTACK IN MORE THAN A DECADE. DECADE. AT LEAST 12 PEOPLE ARE DEAD.
[02:00:58] AT LEAST 12 PEOPLE ARE DEAD. HUNDREDS MORE WOUNDED AFTER AN HUNDREDS MORE WOUNDED AFTER AN AIRSTRIKE THAT THE SEAU D --