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[00:00:54] change
[00:00:55] are real, communities all around the world
[00:00:59] are... are
[00:01:00] struggling
[00:01:04] that over the last two or three years climate has fallen
[00:01:08] down the um the
[00:01:10] the the political um
[00:01:11] agenda.
[00:01:15] i think the key message is that the
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[00:03:50] 西 蒙 斯 蒂 尔 访 问 了 中 国
[00:03:52] 。
[00:03:55] Secretary Still, it is my great pleasure to welcome you to leader talk and to Beijing
[00:03:58] once again.
[00:04:00] what is your view on the increasing frequency of extreme weather events in recent
[00:04:03] years? the impacts of climate change are
[00:04:07] real. communities all around the
[00:04:10] world are are struggling, no one is immune from that. part
[00:04:14] of my job, i visit vulnerable communities um around the
[00:04:17] world. my own uh home is
[00:04:21] of highly vulnerable. um, two years
[00:04:24] ago uh, my island was devastated by
[00:04:27] hurricane barril, 98%. of properties were
[00:04:31] damaged or destroyed, 98%
[00:04:34] of the properties were damaged in in well specifically the
[00:04:38] island of karaku, it passed over, it miss mainland karaku, my
[00:04:42] island is um off the coast of of grenada, but it
[00:04:45] was impacted my own home
[00:04:49] um, but it swept through the islands causing um,
[00:04:53] how are your family by the way, secretary? families, family, family are wealth, my
[00:04:57] parents have only just just
[00:05:01] um uh restored the
[00:05:02] of roof of to the the house, just moved back um to their home after
[00:05:06] a couple of years and that's that's after after after two years they've only got
[00:05:10] round to um to changing the the... repairing the the
[00:05:14] the roof, and my parents are more fortunate than many others, there
[00:05:18] are many others who are still um, still not yet in their in
[00:05:22] their homes, but this is story
[00:05:25] that communities around the world, millions of
[00:05:29] people around the world a struggling with the impacts,
[00:05:33] whether it is um hurricanes, whether it is through
[00:05:36] droughts, flooding, wild fires, extreme
[00:05:39] heat, and that has...
[00:05:44] incredible impact
[00:05:46] on the economies
[00:05:49] of countries, it impacts national security
[00:05:53] in terms of climate migration, um, it
[00:05:57] speaks to um, whether it is
[00:06:01] food shortages through to crop failures, through drought,
[00:06:05] through flooding,
[00:06:07] um, this cross-sects so
[00:06:11] many. aspects of people's
[00:06:14] lives, so the impacts are
[00:06:18] real, being felt, and those are only going
[00:06:22] to increase, we're only going to see more
[00:06:26] climate impacts, but secretary steal, you spoke with a sense
[00:06:30] of, you give it a sense of personal touch and personal warm that
[00:06:33] we truly appreciate, and also a sense of urgency, mean
[00:06:37] i myself went to Alaska and anchorage and took a boat to
[00:06:41] see the
[00:06:42] the the... ice
[00:06:43] camps and mounting and falling off the river right in front of my eyes
[00:06:46] in 2017 September, that made huge emotional impact on
[00:06:50] myself. so let ask you about this if I may, what do you hope to achieve
[00:06:54] by this China visit? I mean it's sharing
[00:06:57] where we need to get to
[00:07:00] um certainly by the end of this year within the the
[00:07:04] climate negotiations, understanding what the
[00:07:07] priorities um of um of of China
[00:07:10] are, those translate into what is
[00:07:14] actually
[00:07:15] and this I think is the most fascinating bit in terms the actual
[00:07:18] actions that are taking place on the
[00:07:22] ground and there is always far more actually taking
[00:07:25] place um in in in reality in
[00:07:29] practice than is always reflected in
[00:07:33] um in in in present number so it's always good to get a sense of what
[00:07:36] is what is really happening here anything strikes you differently this time around I
[00:07:40] mean you're regular it's just the energy um, I did not get a chance
[00:07:44] to meet with the um private sector um here in
[00:07:48] in Beijing um before coming here I was in Hong Kong and
[00:07:52] I did get to meet um with um with private sector there and there's
[00:07:56] some incredible things that happened within the financial markets
[00:08:00] and how they're supporting sustainable um
[00:08:04] sustainable development, but it's it's the
[00:08:07] vibrancy, it is that can do attitude, it's
[00:08:10] recognizing that there are... massive opportunities
[00:08:14] and the sheer determination, the sheer focus and
[00:08:18] performance um is something that that's
[00:08:21] motivating, it's uplifting, you can see what can be done,
[00:08:25] and when you you understand have an understanding
[00:08:29] of China's longer-term development trajectory,
[00:08:33] the progress that has been made decade after decade
[00:08:37] after decade, that determination to move a
[00:08:41] country a... very clear um developmental and
[00:08:45] path is is is absolutely
[00:08:48] astonishing, so taking that
[00:08:51] energy, how that energy can be transferred
[00:08:55] to you on my travels around the
[00:08:59] world is something that
[00:09:01] that that is certainly
[00:09:03] motivating.2011年2020年
[00:09:44] 巴 里 协 定 提 出 , 到 本 世 纪 末 应 将 全 球
[00:09:48] 平 均 气 温 叫 工 业 化 前 水 平 身 高 幅 度
[00:09:52] 控 制 在 二 射 势 度 之 内 , 并 未 把 升 温 控 制
[00:09:56] 在 1.5 射 时 度 内 而 努 力 。 然 而 ,
[00:10:00] 地 元 政 治 博 义 , 绿 色 技 术 竞 争 与 资 金 落 实
[00:10:03] 困 境 相 互 交 支 , 全 球 气 候 治 理 仍 面
[00:10:07] 临 着 动 力 与 信 任 双 尺 字 的 考 验
[00:10:11] 。 How hopeful are you at this
[00:10:15] point about our goal of containing the
[00:10:18] temperature rise to 1.5 degree celsus? I mean, if I were
[00:10:22] to ask you this question, five, si years ago, there
[00:10:26] might have
[00:10:26] been a different answer, but um, what is happening now? well, we
[00:10:30] know the science is clear, where we need to get to and where we
[00:10:34] are, and we're far off track. where i take hope is
[00:10:38] the fact that we have all the tools that we need, we know
[00:10:42] what needs to be done, we know what needs to be
[00:10:46] done by whom and by
[00:10:49] when, that is clear. we have uh,
[00:10:53] this multilateral framework. which sets out clearly
[00:10:57] how all parties, all countries um
[00:11:01] are to contribute. we saw
[00:11:05] from the uh the last set of cl climate
[00:11:08] plans that were received from
[00:11:11] um from from all countries, we saw for the first time
[00:11:14] when we synthesized those, we see that emissions
[00:11:18] curve based on plans submitted
[00:11:22] break for the first time, so... That is
[00:11:25] noteworthy, we've seen if all plans
[00:11:29] currently received were implemented, we'll see a
[00:11:32] 12% um reduction in global emissions, said the
[00:11:36] first time we're seeing that um that reduction, but the
[00:11:40] target we need to get to by 2035 is not 12%,
[00:11:43] it's 60%, so we know we're far off
[00:11:46] track, but we have seen, we're now
[00:11:50] moving in the right direction, we notice a trend
[00:11:53] whereeb visiting heads of state or heads of government became
[00:11:57] regulars in checking out China's electric vehicle scenes, test
[00:12:01] driving uh Chines ECVs themselves, how do you
[00:12:05] see this phenomena? I mean, there is no better way to
[00:12:07] promote uh new technology
[00:12:11] by getting the most prominent leaders to
[00:12:15] be consumers, users um of those. We've
[00:12:18] seen uh over the years, you
[00:12:22] electric vehicles from becoming what... novelty or
[00:12:26] viewed as novelty um to what
[00:12:29] now is the vehicle of choice for so
[00:12:33] many and what we're seeing now especially with the
[00:12:36] energy crisis um and we're seeing that the
[00:12:40] accelerated um interest in the take
[00:12:44] up of electric vehicles I
[00:12:46] mean it is a trend that we're going to see um we're going to
[00:12:50] see continue and to speed up you think the war in the middle east right now
[00:12:53] can actually accept. the pace and
[00:12:57] the political will and the market drive for the
[00:13:01] electric vehicle industry
[00:13:03] to to only thrive. well, say it goes beyond just the electric vehicles. the
[00:13:07] energy crisis lays bear global
[00:13:10] vulnerability to its dependence on fossil
[00:13:14] fuels. 75% of all countries are net
[00:13:18] importers of oil and gas. we've
[00:13:21] seen the impact that that this crisis is... had
[00:13:25] on fuel prices, on energy security,
[00:13:29] so we're seeing at two levels, we're seeing um at government
[00:13:33] level where questions are now um
[00:13:37] being asked, reasked with regard
[00:13:40] to um energy security and that that that
[00:13:43] vulnerability and discussions about
[00:13:46] accelerating the uh the transition away from
[00:13:50] fossil fuels as a key measure not
[00:13:53] only in terms of ensuring energy security,
[00:13:57] but also economic competitiveness, and even
[00:14:01] if this crisis, which is viewed, the IEA has said
[00:14:05] that this is the worst energy crisis in our
[00:14:09] history, we've seen it before, we seen it
[00:14:12] now, and it will happen again, so whether
[00:14:16] you're a consumer and you're making decisions as to whether it's how you
[00:14:20] what you drive, how you heat your home, whether it's
[00:14:23] governments in terms of how they view their own
[00:14:27] sovereinity, their national security, their energy security and their
[00:14:31] economic competitiveness, these are all things that being brought
[00:14:34] and clear into question now, so you're saying that we're actually a
[00:14:38] defining moment in human history, we all know that over the
[00:14:42] last um two or three years climate has fallen
[00:14:46] down the the political um agenda
[00:14:50] and throughout the course of this year through the the war in the middle
[00:14:53] east we've seen that narrative shift
[00:14:57] um from governments everywhere and that certainly presents
[00:15:01] an opportunity in terms of
[00:15:05] pushing uh the pushing forward um with that
[00:15:09] message that the only way to deal with these
[00:15:13] national um security issues, energy
[00:15:16] security issues and economic competitiveness is to
[00:15:20] accelerate the transition away from fossil
[00:15:23] fuels. 2026 年 5 月 , 斯
[00:15:27] 蒂 尔 在 青 华 大 学 发 表 演 讲 , 他 表 示 中 国
[00:15:31] 是 企 后 多 边 主 义 的 领 航 者 , 其 气 候 领
[00:15:35] 导 力 比 以 往 任 何 时 候 ,
[00:16:07] of up to five degrees of warming 10 years after the
[00:16:11] signing of that agreement, we're now around half of
[00:16:15] that, we know that that is still a long way away
[00:16:19] from the 1.5 that um that we need
[00:16:22] to ensure the safety of um of
[00:16:25] humanity, but what that has demonstrated
[00:16:29] is that this multilateral and
[00:16:32] process for climate change is working,
[00:16:36] mean china was ab... instrumental um
[00:16:39] in in reaching agreement of
[00:16:43] 195 countries back in 2015,
[00:16:47] has been an active participant together with other major
[00:16:50] nations in driving the changes that are needed,
[00:16:54] and what we now need to do 10 years after the signing the Paris
[00:16:58] agreement is shift to new era. the focus now
[00:17:02] is on the era of implementation where we put those
[00:17:05] tools, those rules and to to work and that speaks of
[00:17:09] what happens within the real economy and bringing it back to
[00:17:13] China um in terms the uh the
[00:17:17] efforts, significant efforts that are made in terms of your
[00:17:20] own domestic decarbonization, absolutely
[00:17:24] remarkable, and there are lessons that many
[00:17:28] others can learn. well, if you look at um what we've seen
[00:17:32] right here um in China um over the last 10
[00:17:35] years, the... speed of
[00:17:39] China's um transition, its investment
[00:17:42] in um in green uh low-carbon
[00:17:46] um economy is is is mindblowing, both
[00:17:50] in terms of how that has benefited uh job
[00:17:53] creation
[00:17:55] um um economic opportunities here, the shif volume
[00:17:59] scale speed of what is happening here in China
[00:18:02] is driving innovation, it is driving down and
[00:18:06] prices which the rest the world um has been able to
[00:18:10] benefit from, so whether that is we see the um the explosion
[00:18:14] of electric vehicles, we see um the rapid
[00:18:18] expansion of solar wind, and much of that is
[00:18:22] driven by what is taking place here in Mainland China, but the rest
[00:18:26] the world is able to benefit from that. what do you think
[00:18:29] are some the Chinese experimentations and
[00:18:32] experience that can be uh scaled and
[00:18:36] replicated by the rest the world, one
[00:18:39] is political will, that has been
[00:18:43] demonstrated um,
[00:18:44] you know, at the highest levels, your nationally determined
[00:18:47] contribution last year, um, it was stated quite
[00:18:51] clearly in its presentation that, um, as
[00:18:54] significant the effort that will be needed to deliver on
[00:18:58] that, there is still scope to strive to do
[00:19:02] more, that gives very, very clear signal, China
[00:19:05] has a reputation
[00:19:09] of doing what it says it's going to do, so
[00:19:13] any commitment made, it's not only that they will be
[00:19:16] met, they are often um exceeded, so
[00:19:20] if we look at um the
[00:19:24] targets uh that were set for solar
[00:19:27] and wind deployment, those targets were met
[00:19:31] six years early,
[00:19:34] um, so the... intent, that
[00:19:38] political um will that exists to drive through those
[00:19:42] changes, I think is the first message. The second
[00:19:45] message, um, is how that political will is
[00:19:49] translated into action on the
[00:19:52] ground, um, so whether it is your
[00:19:55] investments in research and development, in all the te
[00:19:59] the key technologies for the transition, um, and
[00:20:03] translating those um, those innovations into...
[00:20:07] products that can scale up um making
[00:20:11] markets as well as supplying markets um
[00:20:15] again there are examples there to be taken how those then
[00:20:18] translate into job creation, economic growth, social
[00:20:22] benefits for your people, again there is a model that is
[00:20:26] quite clear there that others can take others
[00:20:30] can learn from, so your leadership domestically
[00:20:34] here at home is an example for the rest the world.
[00:20:37] but then based on this year volume and innovation that coming out
[00:20:41] of China, the impact that that has on global
[00:20:45] markets, driving um technological
[00:20:48] innovations. and driving down prices and then
[00:20:52] making those products available for the global
[00:20:55] market. we've seen um around the world, the countries are
[00:20:59] overpromising and underdelivering, and you once said yourself that
[00:21:03] we're we should be rather in the period of delivery instead
[00:21:07] of you, making promises. absolutely. it is now time to
[00:21:11] move those words, the words on
[00:21:14] paper into um into concrete
[00:21:18] actions um on the ground. and what we
[00:21:21] are um are witnessing, this is
[00:21:25] not just a theoretical
[00:21:26] exercise,
[00:21:30] 氣候變化是全人類的挑戰化是人共同的事業
[00:21:37] 中國作的發展中大國在氣候變化問題上一直多
[00:21:47] 在哈克斯坦中國者 与 当 地 企 业 共
[00:21:51] 同 投 资 建 设 的 系 列 克 风 电 厂 , 为 当 地 可
[00:21:55] 在 生 能 员 发 展 目 标 做 出 积 极 贡 献 , 助 理
[00:21:59] 其 减 少 探 排 放
[00:22:01] 。 在 肯 尼 亚 , 中
[00:22:05] 国 企 业 城 建 的 斯 瓦 克 大 霸 项 目 建 成 后 可 缓 解
[00:22:08] 130 多 万 人 的 生 活 用 水 和 灌 盖 问 题
[00:22:12] , 改 进 屠 染 工 作 条 件 缓 解 食 物 短 缺
[00:22:16] 问 题 。 在 壁 中 国 与 其 共 同 。
[00:22:50] that you constantly come back to, and you said
[00:22:54] China has been playing an exemplary role
[00:22:58] in making this change and leading the wave of
[00:23:01] climate multilateralism, can you elaborate on this
[00:23:05] concept and also on China's
[00:23:08] ruling all this, within this multilateral process countries
[00:23:11] are able to step forward, find areas of
[00:23:15] agreement so that we can move forward, it is
[00:23:19] how we now... transition to this new era from the
[00:23:23] negotiations to um
[00:23:25] implementation. i think the key message
[00:23:29] is that the leadership that China has
[00:23:33] shown, the contributions has made
[00:23:36] continues to make in terms of driving technological
[00:23:40] advancement in terms of what it's doing
[00:23:44] domestically, its role in terms of providing
[00:23:47] support um ' for other developing countries
[00:23:51] within the global south, the leadership that it it has
[00:23:55] shown, it is shown there is how
[00:23:58] that can be brought forward for other countries to
[00:24:02] step up and to in terms of within
[00:24:06] this multilateral environment push forward other key decisions that
[00:24:10] that need to be made within the process, but in terms of driving
[00:24:14] action on the ground and demonstrating that leadership
[00:24:18] when china others
[00:24:21] follow how do
[00:24:22] you see the importance the b and road initiative and in particular the green b and
[00:24:26] road initiative in solidify and rallying the global
[00:24:30] south for the fight against climate change? well through the baltin
[00:24:34] roads initiative significant investments have been
[00:24:37] made in developing countries, including in the areas
[00:24:41] of climate action and
[00:24:45] with regard to the um the energy transition
[00:24:49] so... again demonstrable
[00:24:53] um uh put in words into action, but also showing
[00:24:57] what international cooperation is all about
[00:25:01] within the global south, so it is an
[00:25:04] example of of how countries need to
[00:25:08] work together to help one another in terms
[00:25:12] of development and
[00:25:15] progress. we left baku at
[00:25:19] cop 20. with the decision on the
[00:25:22] new finance, new finance goal, so the
[00:25:26] 300 billion dollars per year by
[00:25:28] 2035 and the road map to 1.3
[00:25:32] trillion, and this is support uh
[00:25:36] for for developing countries. we've seen levels
[00:25:39] of investment last year alone of 2.1
[00:25:43] trillion in renewables compared to
[00:25:46] 1 trillion in fossil fuels that. is very
[00:25:50] clear signal um the uh the finance flows are
[00:25:54] shifting from fossil fuels um to renewables.
[00:25:58] the challenge we have with the exception of China that...
[00:26:02] "uh, when we look at those levels of investment um, it's very,
[00:26:06] very uneven. those flows need to
[00:26:10] um to to flow more evenly and ensure that all
[00:26:13] developing countries are able to take advantage of those
[00:26:17] investment opportunities so that they can
[00:26:21] also um transition away. is that why or partially
[00:26:25] why you often bring up this concept of fair and just
[00:26:28] global energy transition? mean, that's at the heart of..."
[00:26:32] the Paris um agreement ensuring that
[00:26:36] um that no one is left behind with regard
[00:26:39] to the energy transition, it's not a transition, it's
[00:26:43] transitions, um, every country, every
[00:26:46] region um is a different path, not
[00:26:49] everyone is starting at the same point, we all need to end
[00:26:53] up in the same place in order to get us to the um the
[00:26:57] 1. um f um goal, we
[00:27:01] know that some major's powers or major power, this
[00:27:05] time singular, not plural, is apparently and
[00:27:09] obviously absent from their commitment to the Paris climate
[00:27:13] accord, they joined it, quitted it, joined it again and then quitted it
[00:27:16] again, how damaging is this
[00:27:20] to the cause of global climate change
[00:27:23] fight? well clearly having the world's largest
[00:27:26] economy, not part the process um is
[00:27:30] highly unhelful at this... time, but what we have seen
[00:27:34] in the past, and I hope we will see in the future,
[00:27:38] as they have left, they will return
[00:27:42] at some point, but in the meantime, the
[00:27:45] other 194 countries that are part the
[00:27:49] Paris agreement, clearly stating their
[00:27:52] commitment to the Paris agreement, this
[00:27:56] global transition is a significant
[00:28:00] economic opportunity, and this
[00:28:03] the um one the the the the key
[00:28:07] features um of our climate meeting at
[00:28:11] the end the year will be on the action agenda and
[00:28:14] again picking up real examples of action that's
[00:28:18] being take taking place here on the ground in
[00:28:22] china, how that is reflected in the action
[00:28:25] agenda, i think will be very, very interesting
[00:28:28] outcome
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