CCTV13 — broadcast
20260826 211800 UTC
140 transcript segments
Google Cloud Speech-to-Text API (Chirp) + Gemini 2.5 Flash Non-Thinking
Data courtesy of The GDELT Project (https://www.gdeltproject.org/), from the Internet Archive TV News Archive.
Machine transcription. Treat it as a searchable index of what was broadcast, not a verbatim quotation record.

[00:00:15] Okay, the city brain of tens of millions why can't it make money
[00:00:18] ? The app has about 60 daily active users
[00:00:22] , 9.9 million a year, and the entire city brain has been paid for three years
[00:00:26] .
[00:01:00] National Education
[00:01:01] 1573
[00:01:06] Speak with facts ,
[00:01:10] focus on interviews .
[00:01:14] Hello, audience friends, welcome to Focus Interview. In recent
[00:01:18] years, with the rise of big data digitalization, the construction
[00:01:22] of digital government has accelerated in various parts of the country. Many places have successively launched
[00:01:26] the construction of city brains or smart cities.
[00:01:36] However, there are also some local governments that have invested tens of millions of yuan in digitalization projects, but have fallen into the awkward situation
[00:01:40] of being built and idled, and operating and running empty
[00:01:44] . Not long ago, the digital projects in Qujing, Yunnan were reported to have
[00:01:48] been abandoned, halted, etc. Money was spent, and projects were built
[00:01:51] , but why couldn't they be used ? What
[00:01:55] was the real reason for the failure of these projects ? The reporter launched
[00:01:58] an investigation.
[00:02:00] The reporter came to a digital Qujing operation center in an industrial park in Qujing City, Yunnan Province
[00:02:04] . Here, Qujing City Brain and Qujingtong App
[00:02:08] and other projects were once built , but now it is empty
[00:02:11] . The empty office area shows that no one has been working here for a long time
[00:02:15] . When did they move
[00:02:17] ?
[00:02:22] The office is empty, and the Qujingtong App developed by the company has also disappeared
[00:02:26] . Qujingtong is a city government service. On the
[00:02:30] streets of Qujing City, the reporter immediately interviewed some citizens, most
[00:02:34] of whom knew little about Qujingtong.
[00:02:53] Except for registering children for elementary school , this app is almost
[00:02:57] useless in daily life. The reporter then went to Qujing City data.
[00:04:00] approximately 21.54 million pieces. The provincial APP was built
[00:04:03] earlier, with more complete functions, and the common people are more willing to use it. Moreover, various
[00:04:07] places do not need to invest funds anymore. He just said
[00:04:11] that we only need to do some basic localization work
[00:04:13] .
[00:04:16] Then do we need to invest more funds or money to do this ? No. Not a single penny
[00:04:19] . Not a single penny. With the provincial platform, the local government
[00:04:23] affairs themselves belong to repetitive construction. The common people don't like
[00:04:27] to use it, so naturally it loses its vitality . So at that time,
[00:04:41] in 2021, under the promotion of the main leaders of the Qujing Municipal Party Committee at that time, Qujing introduced an enterprise from outside
[00:04:45] through bidding to invest , and reorganized the Qujing Digital
[00:04:48] Economy Company, and the government jointly built the city brain
[00:04:52] through service procurement . So what was the original intention
[00:04:56] of Qujing to promote the construction of the city brain ? At that time, it was also the
[00:05:00] city brain in Hangzhou, right , which brought
[00:05:03] great results to the entire city's governance . Everyone saw its
[00:05:07] benefits
[00:05:08] .
[00:05:36] Because it did not have its own technical capabilities, the local government handed over the lead in relevant technical demonstrations and solutions to external enterprises. The enterprises came up with a comprehensive city brain solution, including a database, a data capability center, an operation and display center named "Digital Cockpit", and Qujing Tong and "One Network Unified Management"
[00:05:39] two application platforms and other construction contents . This is the most important part.
[00:06:12] This is the contract signed by the government and the operating company at that time
[00:06:16] . In terms of service content, it only generally stated simple requirements such as operation
[00:06:20] management, data governance, and system operation and maintenance services
[00:06:24] . At that time,
[00:06:26] the entire city brain was
[00:06:30] . The understanding at that time was indeed relatively vague
[00:06:33] .
[00:06:36] Everyone was not clear. So , in terms of this content ,
[00:06:40] 。
[00:07:42] 9.9 million per year. The entire city brain project has been paid for three
[00:07:46] years. The operation effect of the city brain is far
[00:07:50] from expectations, so how was the acceptance passed in the first place
[00:07:53] ? Why did it continue to pay operating expenses for three consecutive years, nearly 30 million
[00:07:57] yuan
[00:07:57] ?
[00:08:14] China is using its own way
[00:08:18] to achieve modernization .
[00:08:20] 。
[00:08:24] Come on
[00:08:26] .
[00:08:29] This is the acceptance data for the project over the past three years. On average, there are more than five or six thick
[00:08:33] books each year, with a total of over a thousand pages.
[00:08:36] Taking 2024 as an example, the project acceptance was at 3:20 p.m.
[00:08:40] on November 4th. The expert group
[00:08:44] was established and the acceptance was completed by 5:20 p.m., a total of 120 minutes. The experts reviewed
[00:08:48] on-site, averaging more than ten pages of materials per minute, and these
[00:08:51] materials are highly specialized. The reporter found that the industries
[00:08:55] of these acceptance experts are diverse . Some are from compulsory drug treatment
[00:08:59] centers, some are from district courts , and some are from agricultural schools
[00:09:03] , hospitals, etc. They are clearly not experts in the data industry
[00:09:07] . How can such a rapid acceptance be carried out
[00:09:10] ? This person in charge of the digital government department
[00:09:15] also participated in the acceptance meeting at that time. He told reporters that their acceptance method mainly focused on the construction content in the plan, to see if it was built
[00:09:19] or not
[00:09:19] .
[00:09:27] At that time, it was done according to the content
[00:09:31] of the early agreed operating plan
[00:09:34] , and after the experts evaluated it as qualified
[00:09:37] , it passed the acceptance . However,
[00:09:41] completion of construction does not mean putting it into use. The contract stipulates
[00:09:45] that there must be new application projects every year. In the acceptance data
[00:09:48] of 2024, a new data element operation platform project
[00:09:52] was added. Has this project been put into use
[00:09:56] ? Has data trading been realized ? No, but as an application
[00:10:00] scenario with zero transactions, what do you think is the significance of its construction? The original expectation was
[00:10:04] still that it would explore the demonstration of this data element value
[00:10:08] , and operation could reflect and realize
[00:10:11] some of this.
[00:10:25] There is a risk of wasting financial funds . Qujing City Data Bureau and Digital
[00:10:28] Economy Company have communicated on how to improve the project functions
[00:10:32] , but no consensus has been reached . We are in the process
[00:10:36] of rectification, and they feel that the money we give is not enough
[00:10:40] for them to do more rectification.
[00:10:42] That
[00:10:47] is, it is to save financial funds. So
[00:10:51] , under the circumstance that the platform operation is indeed not good , it was finally decided
[00:10:55] why it is not very easy to use ? Software always gets better
[00:10:59] with use. Like the software installed on our phones
[00:11:02] .
[00:11:06] Continuously optimized. We can't get the money
[00:11:07] .
[00:11:11] Starting from 2025, Qujing City government decided not to pay
[00:11:15] operating fees to the operator . Qujing Data Bureau and Qujing Digital
[00:11:18] Company signed an agreement to terminate the contract. The city brain project
[00:11:22] ceased operations .
[00:12:22] 2021
[00:12:38] These platform companies, as investors, also feel extremely helpless . Since we invested this
[00:12:42] money into this company , have you received
[00:12:46] a single penny from this company
[00:12:47] ?
[00:12:59] It is understood that the entire Qujing City Brain project has a total financial investment of 29.7 million yuan
[00:13:03] , and local state-owned enterprises have invested 17 million yuan
[00:13:06] . Qujing and local areas have invested a total of 46.7 million
[00:13:09] yuan. However, with the termination of the project, these investments obviously have not played
[00:13:13] their due role. The local platform company and the head of the data bureau
[00:13:17] reflected on this impulsive investment . For us
[00:13:21] , it's like promoting political systemization
[00:14:11] . Since 2022, the State Council has issued documents such as the "National Big Data System Smart Objects"
[00:14:20] . In January
[00:14:21] 2026, it also issued the "Mobile Interconnection Application Program Specification"
[00:14:57] . It's not blind. Everyone is doing it, right? The investment is huge, there's repetitive construction
[00:15:01] , and resources are wasted. Perhaps , these aspects also need further
[00:15:05] regulation and avoidance . Qujing's city brain
[00:15:08] used tens of millions of yuan in investment to learn a painful lesson. Digitalization
[00:15:12] is not the goal, but the means . The original intention of digital governance
[00:15:16] is for the public to be able to use it well. Only by seeking
[00:15:19] truth from facts and starting from actual needs , and from our own capabilities
[00:15:23] , can our electronic
[00:16:34] . Good afternoon everyone, this is CCTV News Channel, welcome to watch.