CHANNELSTV — broadcast 20260806 180000 UTC 510 transcript segments Google Speech-to-Text API Automatic Transcription (Chirp) Data courtesy of The GDELT Project (https://www.gdeltproject.org/), from the Internet Archive TV News Archive. Machine transcription. Treat it as a searchable index of what was broadcast, not a verbatim quotation record. [00:00:02] of [00:00:35] of [00:00:39] of of [00:00:50] of [00:00:56] of of [00:01:03] of [00:01:07] of [00:01:15] ICPC submit an interm report to [00:01:18] presidentubu and the alleged [00:01:21] presidential foreign investment promotion council, the [00:01:25] PFIP recommending the [00:01:28] me of prosecution of his alleged director [00:01:30] general [00:01:40] state government and drag the [00:01:43] of EFCC to call over the freezing of his bank [00:01:46] account. this comes after presidentubu [00:01:50] ordered [00:01:51] in that the anti-graft agency to [00:01:53] a unfreeze the state bank [00:01:55] of account. [00:02:02] of hello everyone, welcome to the program and thank you for joining [00:02:05] of in. this is politics today live on channel's television. i am [00:02:08] sure for you here in our buja studio. let's begin [00:02:12] tonight by letting you know that president [00:02:15] directed the economic and financial crimes commission, the [00:02:18] EFCC to [00:02:19] of vacate of acord [00:02:24] in of order freezing an account belonging to the state government. and a [00:02:28] of of statement he personally issued on earlier today. President says he feels [00:02:31] deeply embarrassed not by the FC EFCC's [00:02:36] of exercise of his mandate backed by a court order for by the [00:02:40] timing [00:02:40] of the agency's action. Accordingly, he says [00:02:44] code, he has directed DFC to immediately [00:02:47] of proceed to [00:02:48] of the court to [00:02:49] of vacate the order and discontinue whatever action it has [00:02:52] instituted against your state government. In this [00:02:55] regard, president says that the [00:02:59] of directive to v or [00:03:01] of court order became [00:03:02] of important because uh very the action taken by [00:03:06] institution of state, especially at the federal level is always [00:03:09] credited to him as the president, even when he may [00:03:13] not have had any prior knowledge of such [00:03:18] a action, [00:03:22] but aussion government and the governor, governor senator are [00:03:26] delicate, they are not having it, they are not happy and they are not going down. [00:03:30] keeping quiet, the [00:03:31] state government has dragged the economic and [00:03:33] of financial crimes commission EFCC before [00:03:36] of the federal high court in Nabuja, the seeking of two billion [00:03:40] naire in damages over the freezing of his federal [00:03:43] status [00:03:44] to real [00:03:44] of location account, governormal attorney delicate general [00:03:49] of the of the state government and the state accountant general are listed as plinties in the suit [00:03:53] while the AfCC is chairman and force bank and named as [00:03:57] defendant [00:03:58] of in a the originating summons filed by legal team led by [00:04:01] professor sin advocate of Nigeria, the [00:04:05] plant is the court to [00:04:07] of determine whether the anti-graft agency acted within the law by directing [00:04:11] the bank to place a post no debit [00:04:14] of restriction on the states allocation account without first [00:04:18] obtaining accord [00:04:23] of order. It's a loaded program for you tonight to stick around with [00:04:27] me because I'm going to be parding you with loads of. information before [00:04:31] I get to let you uh see and hear what my [00:04:34] of guest of will be discussing with me on the program tonight, but before we get into all of that, [00:04:38] let's save you with some of your political rand up [00:04:40] stories. [00:04:51] The vice president, Kashim Shetima is commencing two-week leave [00:04:55] said to be his first since being sworn into office, according [00:04:59] to the statement by his [00:05:01] of During the period the vice president will devote time to study, [00:05:04] reflection and intellectual renewal as part [00:05:07] of of efforts to strengthen his capacity for the continued service to the nation, the [00:05:11] inspector general of police ( GTSU has directed officers and men the Nigeria [00:05:15] Police Force to play active roles in shaping the national conversation on the [00:05:19] proposed establishment of state police through informed [00:05:22] engagement, objective analysis and public enlightenment. [00:05:26] Speaking as a one day workshop on state police organized by the Nigeria Police [00:05:29] Institute in Abuja. Mr. Dissu says the workshop is a timely platform [00:05:33] for critical reflection on one of Nigeria's most significant security [00:05:37] policy debates, stressing the need for police personnel to be well [00:05:41] informed as discussion. on the proposed reform continue across [00:05:44] the country, he explained that the establishment of state police is an idea the [00:05:48] federal government which must be supported by all officers and men the [00:05:52] force. for state governor and his edo state counterpart [00:05:55] governor have led a massive mobilization of kugi and [00:05:59] edo state indigens residents in oshin state in support the all [00:06:03] progressive congress governorship candidates munirudin oyabamiji ahead [00:06:07] the August 15th 2026 governorship election. speaking at the rally, [00:06:11] governor Ododo urges: cogi indigens and other non-indigent [00:06:14] residents in Ashron state to reciprocate the developmental [00:06:18] strides of president bolamed sinubu by voting overwhelmingly for the [00:06:22] APC governorship candidate in the election. a coalition of civil society groups [00:06:26] under the umbrella of civil society organizations for good governance is asking [00:06:30] Nigerians to unite against insecurity in order to ensure a [00:06:33] safe, peaceful and prosperous Nigeria. addressing journalists in [00:06:37] Abuja after a peaceful rally at the Unity fountain, the co-convenir the coalition [00:06:41] Mr. Daniel C Mom says they will [00:06:43] not allow members of opposition parties, they will not allow members of [00:06:47] opposition parties to determine the sovereignty of Nigeria or derail [00:06:51] the administration of President Bola Medinubu under any guys. [00:06:55] The group, while applauding department of state services, the military and other security agencies [00:06:59] insist that President Tilu is working tirelessly to end [00:07:02] insecurity addition to improving the nation's economy. The Nigeria Democratic [00:07:06] Congress says members the party who lost out in the last primary election must look at [00:07:10] the bigger picture of a Nigeria that... for all and not a selective few as is [00:07:14] currently being experienced in the country. speaking at the inauguration the committee in [00:07:18] Abuja, the chairman professor pat Utomi appeal to all agreed party members to [00:07:22] appear before the committee to make their case. the committee also has Mr. Buba [00:07:26] Galadima as co-chair and the two party deputy national chairman [00:07:30] as members amongst others. Justice Peter Lefu the Federal [00:07:34] High Court in Abuja has declared Abdul Gani Arobo as the duly nominated [00:07:38] candidate the All Progressive Congress for the OWS federal constituency [00:07:42] House. Representatives election in Undo State. Delivering judgemts, [00:07:45] Justice Lefu upheld Aurobo's claim that he emerged winner the APC [00:07:49] primary while pulling the highest number of lawful votes cast across the [00:07:53] constituency. The suit filed against the APC and the Independent National [00:07:57] Electoral Commission INEc challenged the parties handling the outcome the [00:08:00] primary election. After reviewing the evidence before the court, Justice [00:08:04] Leeful held that the total votes recorded from the 23 wars in [00:08:07] a federal constituency established arobo as the authentic [00:08:11] winner the. [00:08:12] gave exercise the Dalchi State Governor Bala Mohamed has warned newly appointed [00:08:16] commissioners against misappropriating public funds, urging [00:08:20] them to manage the state's resources prudently and channel them into projects [00:08:24] and programs that will benefit the people. The governor stresses that [00:08:27] their actions and conduct in office will be closely monitored to [00:08:31] ensure accountability and transparency. Governor Mohammed warning [00:08:35] who during the swearining ceremony of four newly appointed commissioners following [00:08:39] their screening and confirmation by the Bauti State House of Assembly. that the [00:08:42] appointments became necessary following the resignation of some political [00:08:45] appointees seeking elective office ahead the 2027 [00:08:49] general [00:08:50] elections. [00:09:00] there you have it, you've been served with your political rund up [00:09:04] stories. so let's also tell you that one man is in [00:09:08] soup uh is retired officer the department of state [00:09:11] services, [00:09:22] earlier today before the federal high court in Abuja on terrorism [00:09:25] related charges, prosecutors alleged that [00:09:29] the retired DSS officer rendered support to [00:09:33] the prescribed indigenous people the afra iPop [00:09:37] by disseminating materials on social media [00:09:40] joining the organization. and posting messages [00:09:44] allegedly designed to encourage members the public to [00:09:48] support its activities is kalam [00:09:52] played not guilty to all four counts when they were read [00:09:56] before justice Muhammad Umar. The prosecution told [00:09:59] the court that the alleged offenses said to have been [00:10:03] committed between 2025 and [00:10:06] 2026 in Nabuja and Abbia State Controvins [00:10:10] sections 13-2. 5 and 26 the [00:10:13] terrorism prevention and prohibition act of 2022 [00:10:17] as well as the provisions the cyber crime act [00:10:21] following this plee. the prosecution requested at tire days [00:10:25] and asked that the defendant remain in custody, pending [00:10:28] trial. Justice Mohammed Umar subsequently adjoined the case [00:10:32] until October 29 for the commencement of trial and [00:10:36] ordered that the defendant be remanded at the Kuje correctional [00:10:39] center. [00:10:47] Oh, then let's tell you about the situation with respect [00:10:51] to uh the alleged federal. fake [00:10:55] federal agency, so we saw today at the presidential [00:10:59] villa where the chairman the independent and [00:11:02] corrupt practices commission, the [00:11:05] ICPC today submitted interim report to [00:11:09] president on his investigation into the alleged [00:11:12] ficticious presidential foreign investment promotion [00:11:15] council, the PFRPC, they [00:11:19] recommending the prosecution the eleged director [00:11:23] general, rcpc chairman Musa [00:11:26] aliu says uh that the president after [00:11:30] meeting him part the recommendation made is the prosecution [00:11:34] and is exactly 30 days after president director the [00:11:38] anti-corruption agency to conduct a thorough [00:11:41] investigation into the PFRPC. according [00:11:44] to Alio preliminary findings review that ADME was never [00:11:48] appointed by the for the government and that the are proported appointment [00:11:52] letter get and other documentts to establish the [00:11:55] agency were forched, take a [00:11:58] listen, [00:12:05] put found that no funds the federal [00:12:09] government was approved or [00:12:12] dispersed to the fake [00:12:15] Pfipc/peec, [00:12:19] and that we discovered that there was no [00:12:23] any weaknesses. were found in the system [00:12:27] the state house and [00:12:30] CBN in [00:12:32] our own investigation and also the fake [00:12:36] appointment letter of [00:12:40] matthew did not originate from the [00:12:43] presidency and the [00:12:47] ICPC discovered that [00:12:49] I also [00:12:52] created two additional f sitious government [00:12:56] agencies, apart from the one that is known in the [00:13:00] public domain, our investigation or ravel two [00:13:04] other fake government [00:13:07] agencies, namely [00:13:09] FCT investment promotion agency was [00:13:13] acronym FIFA and foreign investment [00:13:17] promotion agency and public private [00:13:20] partnership, people - [00:13:22] pp and facilitate the [00:13:26] creation the additional two fake agencies, he [00:13:30] used forge legislative instruments, [00:13:33] styles as enabling acts and using [00:13:37] them to support opening of bank accounts, [00:13:41] because we discovered that he has opened two bank accounts [00:13:45] in a commercial bank which he went to [00:13:49] use uh in this illegal activities, [00:13:53] so based on this thing, like i said that we [00:13:56] discovered that because the [00:14:00] access he had to the former peac [00:14:04] office, [00:14:06] he now changed the name the [00:14:10] fake agency from foreign investment promotion [00:14:14] council to foreign invest to foreign [00:14:17] intervention promotion council and he was trying [00:14:21] to um um encrouch into the... [00:14:25] of some [00:14:25] agencies, [00:14:30] there you have it, the chairman the ICPC speaking [00:14:34] earlier today and some of what has become a [00:14:37] major findings in the probe the anti-graft [00:14:40] agency, but tonight we're going to also be [00:14:44] dissecting what allegations, heavy one made by [00:14:47] opposition forces with respect to the [00:14:51] credentials that have now been made public, the release of [00:14:55] education credentials and details the candidates that may be [00:14:59] on the ballot on in 2027 election which is [00:15:02] generated uh issues and debates by lot [00:15:06] of nigerians displays transparency, constitutional [00:15:10] eligibility and public accountability at the center and the [00:15:14] heart of political discuss these days as we've seen the publication by [00:15:18] INEC has now renewed attention on [00:15:21] particularly about president who [00:15:25] is he really, where does it come from, who are his [00:15:29] parents, why, what are his educational [00:15:32] credentials, why was it that he did not submit his primary, [00:15:36] secondary school? why was it it was [00:15:39] only the uh the controversial chicago state university [00:15:43] certificate that was made available to anec and [00:15:46] there a lot of questions there are those now had gone back to when he was [00:15:50] governor what really happened himself did he [00:15:54] forge any document opposition is been speaking and when we had this [00:15:58] conversation the other day he got a bit [00:16:00] ficy [00:16:02] and and there are those who think that more light need to be shared nigerians [00:16:06] need explanations name Nigerians need [00:16:08] understanding that for those who will govern us in this [00:16:12] country, there's a need for transparency and [00:16:15] accountability. So tonight, one man that has stood in the court and [00:16:19] defended president Bolatunobu and not only at this time [00:16:22] but uh before the 2023 election when this [00:16:26] was major issue will be joining me tonight on the program and the [00:16:30] man we came on the program the last time we laid the allegation [00:16:34] is in fact in as the lawyer in this matter. is Mr. [00:16:38] Kalu Kalu who is a lawyer and member the ADC is live [00:16:42] virtually for us on the program, but I will be having on the program [00:16:46] tonight, Mr. Ogala, who is a senior advocate [00:16:49] of Nigeria and a former legal [00:16:51] advisor to the APC, national legal [00:16:55] advisor to the APC uh is sitting in our Legos [00:16:59] Studio tonight, thank you, let us seek and thank you [00:17:02] Mr. for joining us tonight, thank you very much, it's my pleasure to be [00:17:06] here. for having me again today, yeah uh, let [00:17:10] us say before I come to you, let us for about two [00:17:14] minutes or there about listen to the allegations, [00:17:18] because uh the opposition think that your [00:17:21] principal and president bolatinu [00:17:24] uh is is is been accused of [00:17:27] forgery, he's been accused of lacking academic [00:17:31] credentials, he's been accused of so many other things, but I'm not the [00:17:35] one laying the allegation, let me... allow the man who came on [00:17:39] this program and renewed the credential hostility [00:17:43] and controversy of 2022 or many many years ago and [00:17:47] brought it back to the fambana. Mr. Kalukalu, the man [00:17:51] that will respond to you who has stood for president to [00:17:55] defend him is here on the program, can you lay before him those [00:17:58] allegations and let Nigerians be able to understand a decent and [00:18:02] a civil conversation tonight? So [00:18:06] we have. beyond the issue of allegation and [00:18:09] accusation, it is now an established [00:18:13] fact that b does not [00:18:16] have a primary school certificate and secondary school [00:18:20] certificate. i don't know why we are overflogging this [00:18:23] issue, it's a very simple thing, if he says it's an [00:18:27] allegation, if he says is is [00:18:30] accusation, let him come out and tell [00:18:34] nigerians, this is my primary school certificate, this is my this [00:18:37] certificate [00:18:41] this will stop, this thing started in [00:18:44] 1999 by late legal [00:18:48] icon, he [00:18:52] took this matter off, see the matter rose to the supreme [00:18:55] court and it was dismissed on gr of technicality and nothing [00:18:59] else, in 2023 the same issue [00:19:03] came up when when stood for [00:19:07] for the presidential election for 2023 and today in [00:19:10] 2020 26 it has resurfaced [00:19:13] again, isn't not is it not is not [00:19:17] high time mr president came out [00:19:19] and let nigerians know this is what this [00:19:21] is who i am, this is [00:19:23] my problem certificate, this is secondary [00:19:25] certificate, settle this issue [00:19:28] once and for all, mr. show, in [00:19:32] 1999, in [00:19:35] 1999 the [00:19:48] was looted and his [00:19:51] his property certificates got missing mean in his deposition in 19 in [00:19:55] 1999 and in the [00:19:59] affed samid he submitted heis from [00:20:02] c001 he deposed that he [00:20:06] attended St. Paul's primary [00:20:09] school ibadon, which is [00:20:12] false, you also the post that he [00:20:15] attended college, which is [00:20:18] false, also in the sam that he [00:20:21] attended university of [00:20:24] chicago, university of chicago, which is false, this one is [00:20:28] not even chicago university, in the same form, he he [00:20:31] depored that he attended Chicago State University, I [00:20:35] mean University of Chicago. on the same form that he [00:20:38] attended university of [00:20:41] chicago, all these allegations, all [00:20:44] these interest in his from [00:20:47] cf001 in 1999. don't have to be [00:20:50] force in 2002, [00:20:53] 2022 when when he submitted [00:20:56] his from [00:20:58] eight, the the column for [00:21:02] primary school vacant, the column for secondary school [00:21:05] vacant, then the the last column for for for the university [00:21:09] attended he put univers of [00:21:12] chicago and the certificate he got from [00:21:16] there and when there was inquire a disc [00:21:20] in university of chicago startling [00:21:23] revelation was made, he claimed he [00:21:27] attended government college lagus and graduated in [00:21:30] 1970 when indeed government college lagos was [00:21:34] established in 1974, four years after [00:21:38] b claimed that he graduated from government college [00:21:41] legos [00:21:42] in the same documents that were released [00:21:46] by chicago state university we also found that [00:21:51] he submitted to state university [00:21:54] university of cambridge certificate [00:21:58] that [00:22:01] nigerians, this is [00:22:03] the time [00:22:06] should put up resignation and leave [00:22:10] the seats for why [00:22:12] are we repeating [00:22:13] this issue [00:22:15] mr kallu yeah let me let's allow uh [00:22:19] the l stick to respond to what you've [00:22:22] said, Nigerians [00:22:25] will want to be educated and know who [00:22:29] exactly is your principal and their allegations, [00:22:33] there are those who say that St. Paul, St. Paul, our [00:22:36] lawyer 1958 to [00:22:38] 1964, [00:22:42] is some there's cloud of uncertainty [00:22:46] and lack of clarity. [00:22:50] government college ibadon explanation [00:22:53] needed uh the Richard Darley College [00:22:57] explanation University of Chicago explanation in the Chicago [00:23:00] State University at Anderson accounting firm as [00:23:04] a worker there and Delo [00:23:08] asking herself lot questions are being [00:23:11] asked about who exactly the identity the [00:23:15] profile the education background the [00:23:19] historical and of your principal all this question makes [00:23:23] a lot of people wonder who is this man, is he a [00:23:26] mysterious personality [00:23:28] or what? can you please educate Nigerians tonight about this [00:23:30] man? um, for me, I [00:23:34] think I will rather not be distracted from the main [00:23:38] focus the issue by going into [00:23:42] extranous matters like you have listed, between [00:23:46] 1999 and 2003, there [00:23:50] had been several litigation on this matter and the [00:23:53] courts have ruled, the courts, i say [00:23:57] again have ruled and taken it from here, the [00:24:01] man would just spoke at length here is our regular [00:24:04] customer, when i says our regular customer, he is [00:24:08] regular customer in bringing this kind of [00:24:11] actions, i am embarrassed and [00:24:14] surprised that a lawyer is coming national [00:24:18] television and categorical statements [00:24:22] that documents have forged that somebody [00:24:25] lied when the courts have not so [00:24:28] determined and let me say this as we speak [00:24:32] today kalukalu through has filed [00:24:35] another action in the high court in federal court [00:24:38] kano on this same issue where he [00:24:42] has joined the university of chicago I do not [00:24:46] know and or rather not say I know as fact. that is [00:24:50] most unethical for a lawyer to come [00:24:54] national television to be discussing matter [00:24:58] where is council? these are exactly the [00:25:01] questions he has asked and we are again defending, [00:25:05] but before now, in 2022, [00:25:09] this same mr. kalu that is speaking here [00:25:13] filed five actions, [00:25:17] five in the name of um action [00:25:20] alliance [00:25:21] i think against INEc, [00:25:24] bolatinu, APC, and Sundray matter [00:25:28] persons on this same issue, all five matters [00:25:32] were dismissed, one went as far as the court of appeal [00:25:35] and it was also dismissed, I handle those matters [00:25:39] and he knows what we talk about, so if he [00:25:43] has issues, he is a lawyer, he should [00:25:47] go and prove his issues, in courts, [00:25:51] his case is pending on this issue [00:25:55] in the federal court cano where he has joined [00:25:58] even the he has joined the university Chicago. [00:26:02] state university in the US, the are defenders in his [00:26:06] suit by him, so let him wait for [00:26:10] the court to determine the faith of his suit. we have joined [00:26:14] issues with him, so it will not be proper for me to come and [00:26:18] start discussing what is before the court, like he [00:26:21] has elected to do, but what does the [00:26:24] constitution say about qualification for office? because [00:26:28] hear things like who are his parents, who is his father? Who is [00:26:32] his mother, who is his sister, who is his brother? Is he a [00:26:36] Nigeria? The answer is yes, unless [00:26:40] otherwise proven or determined through [00:26:44] a judicial process. Is it qualified to [00:26:48] run for presidency? Agewise, [00:26:52] yes, by constitutional [00:26:54] provisions. Does he have the minimum [00:26:58] educational qualification as prescribed by the [00:27:01] constitution, which? which simply says [00:27:04] educated up to school sat level [00:27:07] and even interpreting the interpretation section [00:27:11] in interpreting what constitutes school level [00:27:15] says primary six ability to [00:27:18] read and write a man says [00:27:22] i have a degree is sitting [00:27:26] here i a lawyer i a senior advocate [00:27:30] you asking as a senior advocate to prove if I [00:27:34] a lawyer, you want to know which primary school I attended, which secondary [00:27:37] school I attended, which uh, private lesson I [00:27:41] attended, where I did my A levels, where I did my [00:27:45] um vacation tutorial school and all of [00:27:48] that, what is our stake here [00:27:51] is as lawyers, let us [00:27:55] face the constitution, what the constitution [00:27:59] says, and it is simple that, "you [00:28:02] must be educated up to school certificate level. Mr. [00:28:06] Karlo has made several, several, he has said several [00:28:10] things here, which in my opinion could even be [00:28:13] defaratory, and some of it could even, I mean [00:28:17] beyone ethical of a lawyer, in one the matters he [00:28:21] did, one them, the court [00:28:24] even, and I think maybe so perhaps maybe we need [00:28:28] to start learning few things from here. One the matters, the [00:28:31] court not..." only dismissed his matter, the court asked [00:28:35] him to [00:28:38] personally pay cost for even [00:28:42] bringing such frivolous matter [00:28:45] on the same issues we are discussing three years [00:28:49] after the same issues, the same [00:28:53] issues on the same issue you have [00:28:56] presented before a federal high court in cano [00:29:00] that is still pending in the name of a certain [00:29:03] i can't remember the name the NGO now which [00:29:07] is which has his office in abah [00:29:11] in abayes abier state and um his [00:29:14] office in abuja and the matter is filed in [00:29:18] kano we have joined issues on that we have filed our [00:29:22] defense we have filed our premier so we will leave that for the court [00:29:26] to determine this new action let me let me let me jump in here let [00:29:30] me jump in here uh mr [00:29:32] ogola for this sake of transparency and accountability, because we are talking [00:29:36] about public office here, and it's not about the your [00:29:40] principal, this is not a selfish issue, if he [00:29:43] was about him and is a private thing for [00:29:47] him, you rather not come out, because but this is for the [00:29:51] interest the public and the publics and the Nigerian people, [00:29:55] that's why [00:29:56] it is important, can you tell us [00:29:58] what is important, can you give us, yeah, can you give? give [00:30:02] us very brief maybe in one sentence, what [00:30:06] schools did your principal [00:30:09] attend? is it not ridiculous you asking me such [00:30:12] questions? what schools he attended? do i know what [00:30:16] schools you attended? do you know which schools i attended and you are saying my [00:30:20] principal? i can if you if you ask me i can tell you you cannot [00:30:24] even ask and then you go and ask him you ask [00:30:28] him then ask him [00:30:32] yes. ask you, what what school did you attend? [00:30:35] will you be offended? is my prerogative to provide [00:30:39] that information? is my prerogative, but because you are not [00:30:43] a, because you are not a public officer, a public off [00:30:47] even if i'm [00:30:47] a public officer is my prerogative. the issue here we [00:30:51] are an election, the issue is what is in the [00:30:55] inec form that was filled, did [00:30:59] is there?