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[00:00:06] of
[00:00:10] of
[00:00:25] of
[00:00:28] in of of
[00:00:39] National of chairman of a cord party says
[00:00:46] of of osum state has been under of of siege by persons it describes as anti-democratic forces who are
[00:00:50] in determined to harass, intimidate,
[00:00:53] of destabilize and disenfranchise the electorate in oursian
[00:00:57] state.
[00:01:03] and victims
[00:01:05] of of abduction during the deadly attack on the world community of
[00:01:08] quara state have
[00:01:10] of now been received by families and government of kara state
[00:01:14] and getting medical
[00:01:15] of attention.
[00:01:16] of
[00:01:25] hello
[00:01:26] of everyone, welcome to the program and thank you for joining in. this is politics.
[00:01:30] Today live on China's television, I'm Shuakimale live for you here in
[00:01:34] our Bujo
[00:01:36] of of of studio. Let's begin by letting you know he was an emotional
[00:01:40] of reunion for those victims abducted during the daily attack on the world
[00:01:44] community in the kama local government area of
[00:01:46] karate. We have now arrived in Loring,
[00:01:50] the capital
[00:01:51] of the state
[00:01:52] in following the rescue have suspending several months in captivity. The
[00:01:56] of victims arrived in the state capital uh
[00:02:00] Yesterday night, after regaining their
[00:02:03] of freedom through sustained military operations and coordinated efforts by
[00:02:07] security agencies. They were reportedly transported from Niger state to
[00:02:11] I Loren where they were received at the Nigerian
[00:02:14] of army
[00:02:15] of uh to division Sobs. The rescued victims were
[00:02:19] subsequently moved to undisclosed location where they spend
[00:02:22] of the night. Some
[00:02:24] of the victims were taken to the hospital for medical treatment and the victims
[00:02:27] were among residents ofducted. after armed attackers
[00:02:31] invaded wuro
[00:02:33] of earlier of this
[00:02:34] of year,
[00:02:34] of killing scores of
[00:02:35] of people and taking several others into the
[00:02:38] surrounding
[00:02:41] in of forest.
[00:02:45] of of of
[00:02:56] of these of community.
[00:03:03] "this is indeed indeed very sad situation,
[00:03:07] um, we've not yet
[00:03:08] of complicated with it, we're still assessing the situation, as
[00:03:12] you can
[00:03:12] of see of um, it's just kids, children and
[00:03:16] of women that are here today, some
[00:03:18] of them, we have about 46
[00:03:19] of them in the hospital, and um, it's
[00:03:23] truly a shame
[00:03:28] of of that this has happened, continue to do
[00:03:32] in it best of to the life and property
[00:03:35] of the citizens within the state, we will
[00:03:39] come back to address further, but just say we
[00:03:42] in start of this inter process, because um we don't have all
[00:03:46] the facts yet, the victims are still going through processing,
[00:03:51] of secration,
[00:03:52] in health screening and all other
[00:03:55] processes, today i'm
[00:03:57] happy to... you or to
[00:04:01] introduce to you the people whom through
[00:04:05] the combined efforts
[00:04:06] of the security agencies we have
[00:04:09] been able to
[00:04:10] rescue. again,
[00:04:14] of i want to use this opportunity to thank and to say thank you to the
[00:04:17] other security
[00:04:19] of agencies whom have been very
[00:04:22] of helpful in all the efforts we making. this today is an
[00:04:26] example
[00:04:27] of the synergy that exists within. security agencies
[00:04:30] in the
[00:04:31] of
[00:04:34] of country, a was
[00:04:34] what an emotional reunion for them and freedom at
[00:04:38] last after several months, weeks
[00:04:42] spent
[00:04:43] of uh in the watch of bandits and
[00:04:46] terrorists in the forest. there's so much
[00:04:50] of to of talk about, we will be dwelling more tonight on the
[00:04:54] situation in Aushen State and the
[00:04:56] of explanation in by the EFCC and of course what, This means
[00:05:00] for our democracy, but before we get
[00:05:02] of into all of that tonight, let's serve you with some of your political round of
[00:05:06] of stories.
[00:05:17] The presidential candidate the Social Democratic Party, SDP, prince Adeole
[00:05:21] Adebayo, has called for strict adherance to the rule of law in handling
[00:05:25] issues involving the economic and financial crimes commission, EFCC.
[00:05:29] Speaking on reports that the ocean state government's bank accounts were frozen
[00:05:32] during news conference in Apuja. President says he does not support calls for
[00:05:36] the resignation the EFCC chairman.
[00:05:40] He said the EFCC should be allowed. to carry out its constitutional responsibilities
[00:05:44] independently without political interference. Adebayo explained that
[00:05:48] EFCC operates within the law and other judicial supervision, adding
[00:05:52] that affected parties have the right to challenge the agency's actions
[00:05:56] in court. Ahead theshun governorship elections, the inspector general of police,
[00:05:59] Mr. Disu has read the riot acts to political actors in the
[00:06:03] state, warning that the force will deal decisively with perpetrators of
[00:06:07] election violence. At a meeting with members of civil society organizations in Abuja,
[00:06:11] Mr. Adisu says the police. is determined to ensure a peaceful
[00:06:14] governorship election in the state. He assures residents the state and all Nigerians
[00:06:18] that the Nigeria police force remains non-partisant and will
[00:06:22] deploy massively for the election. As preparations intensify for the
[00:06:26] August 15 governorship election in Aushen state civil society organizations
[00:06:30] under the ages of pulling units ambassadors say it will deploy technology to
[00:06:34] strengthen election monitoring and promote transparency throughout the electoral
[00:06:37] process. The group says the initiative is aimed at ensuring that developments across
[00:06:41] pooling units are. tered and reported in real time. addressing
[00:06:45] journalists in Abuja, the secretary general the organization, Mr. Osa OSA
[00:06:49] says, technology will be deployed to monitor activities across polling
[00:06:52] units, document incidents and provide timely information
[00:06:56] to stakeholders, which will improve the speed of information gathering and
[00:07:00] verification while helping to counter misinformation and
[00:07:03] disinformation that may arise during another voting. the
[00:07:07] governorship candidate the African Democratic Congress in Benray state, Heman
[00:07:11] Hembe is committing to a single tenure of four years to
[00:07:15] support the emergence of a governor from benway south senatorial candidate
[00:07:19] in 2031. the former house of representatives member
[00:07:22] explains that the gesture is aimed addressing the 50 years marginalization
[00:07:26] the zone in the state. Mr. Hembe made the declaration at the presentation of his
[00:07:30] running mate, Mr. John Abba in Macodi, the state capital.
[00:07:34] Outgoing President the Nigerian Bar Association, Mr. Affam Osigwe has
[00:07:38] dismissed allegations of rigging and corruption that trailed the
[00:07:42] just included election the association, he stated this after the
[00:07:45] inauguration the executive the FCT Chapter the Association in
[00:07:49] Abuja. Mr. Sigwe explains that though there were technical glitches during the
[00:07:52] exercise, it did not affect the outcome the election. Meanwhile, the ST
[00:07:56] chapter the Nigerian bar association has set up task force to counter the activities of
[00:08:00] fake lawyers in the nation's capital. The chairman the chapter, Mr. Yakubu Filamon
[00:08:04] says the Association will be partnering with regulatory
[00:08:07] agencies to ensure that no document is filed without the
[00:08:11] seal of an authentic. lawyer, governor Maymala Buni of UB
[00:08:15] state has sworn in Dr. Mohammed GoJ as the secretary to the state governments
[00:08:18] alongside some permanent secretaries, special advisers, the executive
[00:08:22] chairman the state's independent electoral commission and the chairman the state rural
[00:08:26] electrification commission. Shortly after taking oath of office, governor Buni
[00:08:30] charges the new appointees on competence and productivity,
[00:08:34] especially in the digital world where technology is at the forefront of
[00:08:37] governance. He further revealed that the government has come up with
[00:08:40] deliberate policy of blend. young individuals with
[00:08:44] competent hands for better service
[00:08:46] delivery,
[00:08:57] there you have it, you've been served with your political rand up stories,
[00:09:01] well as part of efforts to ensure a peaceful governorship election
[00:09:05] aus said, the national chairman of accord party mr
[00:09:08] mag them, heis calling on president
[00:09:13] and the independent national electoral commission and to ensure a
[00:09:17] level playing ground for all parties at the news
[00:09:20] conference today in Abuja, the party's national secretariat
[00:09:24] in the national secretariat the party
[00:09:27] Mr. good says the political tension in the state
[00:09:31] and the actions the economic and financial crimes commission
[00:09:34] (EFCC) is deliberate attempt to frustrate the
[00:09:38] administration of governor Ademala Adeleke. He says:
[00:09:42] state has been under siege by persons it
[00:09:45] describes as anti-democratic forces who are
[00:09:49] determined to harrast, intimidate, destabilize and
[00:09:53] disinfranchise the electorate in state. take a listen
[00:09:56] to Arcot party national
[00:09:58] chairman. one
[00:10:02] after the other, the grand plot to stabilize the accord government ashu state
[00:10:06] failed worfully and we continue to fail as the
[00:10:10] people stand with their performing compassion. and visionary
[00:10:13] governor, the integrity the election is essential for sustainable
[00:10:17] democracy in Nigeria, as the last circle governorship pool before the
[00:10:21] critical 2027 general election, according to
[00:10:25] "and should be its best in conducting a free,
[00:10:29] fair, credible and inclusive governorship
[00:10:32] election. the commission should put h together and ensure
[00:10:36] that all electoral materials are adequately testron to avoid
[00:10:40] glitches and hitches. there should be no excuse
[00:10:44] whatsoever for poor performance. bearing in
[00:10:47] mind the political tension in the state, expectations the people
[00:10:51] and activities of anti-democratic elements that want to first and
[00:10:55] unpopular candidate on the people, accord calls on the international
[00:10:58] community, civil society organizations, election
[00:11:02] observers missions, the Nigeria Association, the media,
[00:11:06] development partners, well meaning Nigerias, opposition political parties
[00:11:10] and all citizens of fortune state to rise in defense of
[00:11:13] democracy by speaking out against any conduct capable of
[00:11:16] undermining the credibility the forcoming governorship
[00:11:19] election, all right, just
[00:11:23] days before the votes 'and state head to the
[00:11:27] post about to over money, law and political powers
[00:11:31] opened another front in an already charged
[00:11:34] election where we seeing killings,
[00:11:38] violence in the state ahead of next
[00:11:42] upper week election, president Bolatinobu directed
[00:11:46] EFCC to return to court and seek the
[00:11:49] unfreezing of an Aushen state government bank account saying
[00:11:53] that why you respects the'. commission's mandate is deeply
[00:11:56] embarrassed by the timing of his action and the impression it
[00:12:00] could create of federal interference in the election,
[00:12:04] the FCC insists it acted to protect public
[00:12:07] funds after detecting suspicious transactions and
[00:12:11] says investigation involving about 11 billion
[00:12:15] nara has been on the way since March this year.
[00:12:19] governor Adelike however calls the restriction
[00:12:22] unconstitutional and has taken the commission. to court de manding
[00:12:25] a two billionaire in damages, but beyond the
[00:12:29] politics lies a significant constitutional question, how far can the
[00:12:33] ESCC go in restricting the finances of federating
[00:12:37] state, what due process must it follow, and if
[00:12:40] anti-graft agencies are supposed to operate
[00:12:44] independently, how far can a president go in
[00:12:48] directing their
[00:12:48] actions.
[00:12:57] "We've been here in civil society organization and different
[00:13:01] opinion moders and interest go speaking on this
[00:13:04] matter, Sislak is one them, and today
[00:13:08] they were speaking to the press about this matter that is raising lot
[00:13:12] of concerns and not only in Nigeria, it's getting some
[00:13:15] international attention, take a listen to sixlak on this
[00:13:18] one, we
[00:13:22] have it on good authority that..." EFCC obtained an
[00:13:26] order of federal high court to free ocean state
[00:13:30] account. The law empowers EFCC
[00:13:34] under the laws as in the law
[00:13:37] provision. Section 7, Section 6
[00:13:41] the Money laundry prohibition (prevention and Prohibition
[00:13:45] Act 2022) and Section
[00:13:48] 34 the EFCC establishment
[00:13:51] act 204. What is
[00:13:55] particularly troubling is the precedent
[00:13:59] created when president can publicly direct
[00:14:03] an anti-corruption agency regarding specific
[00:14:06] ongoing enforcement action, even where the
[00:14:09] president's intention may have been to prevent political
[00:14:13] abuse or protect essential government operation, such
[00:14:17] intervention can create
[00:14:20] perception that anti-corruption
[00:14:23] investigation are subject. to the presidential
[00:14:26] control, the president should not be seen to
[00:14:29] be acting individual or directing
[00:14:33] individual investigation or enforcement
[00:14:37] decision, otherwise it will create perception that the
[00:14:41] government is controlling, dictating, manipulating,
[00:14:45] undermining the independent the anti-corruption, that is why it
[00:14:49] is very dangerous thing. All right,
[00:14:53] then there are so many aspects. angles to this story, on
[00:14:57] one hand is the power of a state the federating unit in
[00:15:00] federal system of government, and what a federal agencies of
[00:15:04] government, no matter what the agency does, whether it's an
[00:15:07] anti-graft agency or regulating, whatever they do,
[00:15:11] and their independence in the face of what the president said to the
[00:15:15] ESCC, stop it, go to court, remove your
[00:15:18] order, and also the constitutionality of all the
[00:15:22] actions, if there is any infractions on the state account what
[00:15:26] should be done and elections that is in the mix
[00:15:30] of it, the ruling party APC is also on
[00:15:33] the ballot, could this mean in some kind of political interference?
[00:15:37] is the APC hoping to w the election through this
[00:15:41] means is accord party also inv or the ruling the
[00:15:45] government in the state involved in in fraudlent
[00:15:48] activities. Let's get some insight on this one. I'm being joined
[00:15:52] by famous Nigerian in human rights lawyer and the
[00:15:56] senior advocate of Nigeria Mr. Fermy Falano with life
[00:16:00] for
[00:16:10] is getting lot of interpretation, there a lot of
[00:16:13] debate over this matter and is concerning because an election
[00:16:17] is involved and the the government the day and the accord
[00:16:21] party is saying the state is under siege, the
[00:16:25] government, the are those who are asking the question, should the government or the
[00:16:28] president give a direct order to an agency of
[00:16:32] government, you can like into inec, that means the
[00:16:36] president can also... to register
[00:16:40] on those who are giving different interpretation to what has
[00:16:43] happened uh yesterday, but give us an
[00:16:47] understanding, mr. falan, under the law,
[00:16:51] did the EFCC have the right to do what it did, freezing the
[00:16:54] account of a state government to a court order, the
[00:16:58] process that EFCC went through, is it legal, is it
[00:17:01] constitutional?
[00:17:05] well, as far as the law is concerned, uh,
[00:17:09] the EFCC has not acted
[00:17:13] illegally, as matter of fact, that came out
[00:17:17] in the statement the president, that we are, I'm not
[00:17:20] questioning your mandate and the exercise of
[00:17:24] your power, however, I'm
[00:17:26] embarrassed, we'll come to that a
[00:17:30] moment, under the
[00:17:32] law, EFCC has
[00:17:36] power. to freeze the
[00:17:39] account the federal government or of
[00:17:43] any state or local government in Nigeria, this
[00:17:47] matter was settled
[00:17:49] in the case of attorney general of
[00:17:53] Bernu estate and
[00:17:56] FCC in 2022, we arised in
[00:18:00] 2019, the federal high court in that state, in
[00:18:04] ben state, I drew, the
[00:18:07] ESCC lac the power to freeze the account
[00:18:11] the state and awarded 50 million damages
[00:18:15] against the EFCC, the EFCC went to court and
[00:18:19] a judgement delivered, I think in September 2022, the
[00:18:23] court of appeal held that the
[00:18:26] ESCC has the power to freeze the
[00:18:30] account of that state and place
[00:18:34] PMD of not not more than 72
[00:18:38] hours before obtaining a court order, that
[00:18:42] remains the law in Nigeria today, in
[00:18:44] 2024, the cogi state
[00:18:48] government, joined by many state government
[00:18:51] challenged
[00:18:55] the
[00:18:56] investigation probin of
[00:18:59] state accounts by GSC,
[00:19:03] ICC or NF
[00:19:05] IU.
[00:19:07] and a historic
[00:19:11] judgement, the supreme court
[00:19:14] examine all the relevant
[00:19:17] laws and came to the conclusion
[00:19:21] that these agencies have the
[00:19:23] power to pr the accounts
[00:19:27] of any the
[00:19:29] federal,
[00:19:35] if Nigerians.
[00:19:41] When the law changed, you can go to the national
[00:19:44] assembly, but for now, as of
[00:19:46] today, EFCC
[00:19:50] has the power to freeze the
[00:19:54] account of any state, and in not more than
[00:19:57] 72 hours has to go to court in
[00:20:01] the instance, the EFCC went to
[00:20:04] court and the federal. high
[00:20:08] court, federal high court
[00:20:11] interven based on information provided by the
[00:20:15] state gover by the EFCC,
[00:20:19] the president refer to the order obtained by the
[00:20:22] EFCC, and as
[00:20:26] it should be done, you should state
[00:20:29] government has
[00:20:32] challenged the
[00:20:35] legality, the validity. the other, not the
[00:20:39] timing, because we must also be very
[00:20:42] careful that we don't give a dangerous impression that
[00:20:46] when elections are 10 days away, 20 days away, 30 days
[00:20:50] there a way, the anti-grant agencies
[00:20:54] must turn the other eye, don't look at the state or the federal
[00:20:58] government, and so if funds are being moved
[00:21:02] to
[00:21:02] the t of billions of n, don't look at them, mean
[00:21:06] don't look at those fun, because elections are coming, it's a
[00:21:10] very dangerous impression that is being created,
[00:21:14] but in this particular instant,
[00:21:17] again we engage a lot of divers.
[00:21:22] actionary measures all over the place, very simple and straight
[00:21:26] forward matter, the embarrassment alluded
[00:21:30] to by the president will be
[00:21:32] handled by the attorney general the
[00:21:36] federation, because what the president said is that you have not
[00:21:40] exercised your power legally, you have a
[00:21:43] court order, however, I'm
[00:21:47] being accused or... of
[00:21:50] manipulating federal agencies
[00:21:53] in state,
[00:21:55] therefore go to
[00:21:58] call and see how you can
[00:22:02] have the other vacated again, that is the duty the attorney
[00:22:06] general of forcing, and in this case
[00:22:10] the president of Nigeria will have advice
[00:22:13] advice, advice the attorney general the federation, I'm
[00:22:17] disturbed by the development in
[00:22:19] please kind. you take over the case and the attorney general
[00:22:23] will have exercised his powers under section 174 the
[00:22:27] constitution of Nigeria by taking over the case and
[00:22:30] upon taking over the case the attorney general will either
[00:22:34] announce to the court, my lord, i
[00:22:37] have taken over this g, i want to withdraw this k,
[00:22:40] or my lord we have had the
[00:22:44] second look at this case based on representation
[00:22:48] made by shin. we want to
[00:22:51] withdraw this case or since the state
[00:22:55] government has challenged the order, my
[00:22:59] lord, we are consideding that this order should
[00:23:03] be vacated, but again
[00:23:06] again the attorney general will tell the EFCC, what
[00:23:10] i have done is to vacate the order, but go on and
[00:23:14] ensure that you monitor and do your work, because
[00:23:18] again the court has said: because have
[00:23:20] failed neither the ESCC or the ICPC or the
[00:23:24] NFIU can be prevented from
[00:23:28] investigating allegations
[00:23:31] of corruption, money laundering,
[00:23:35] looting the treasury in this
[00:23:37] country, if I may jump in
[00:23:41] quickly, let me, you alluded to the
[00:23:44] role of President Bolatinoubu, and there those who have
[00:23:47] said President Bolatunobu. simply made a
[00:23:51] political blunder in interfering or
[00:23:55] ordering the ESCC to stand down and go to court, you have
[00:23:58] said that instead of president bolatinu that the attorney
[00:24:02] general should have done the role, but would that really solve the
[00:24:06] interference problem, and I like to ask you, you
[00:24:10] argue that instead of uh directing them directly
[00:24:13] uh the AGF to take over the matter under section
[00:24:17] 174 the constitution after which the could have
[00:24:20] seek to vacate the order or withdraw proceeding, but if the
[00:24:24] president tells the AGF to take over an anti-corruption case,
[00:24:28] specifically to terminate it, haven't we
[00:24:32] simply changed the route of presidential intervention
[00:24:36] rather than eliminating, because the fear here and the
[00:24:40] concern here, just moment sir, section 174
[00:24:43] concerns criminal proceedings, precisely what
[00:24:47] proceeding exist here that the AGF could...
[00:25:20] even on the order of a court, I mean, I don't know where the court got the
[00:25:23] order, now the point I'm making is
[00:25:26] this, and this is not the first time, in many
[00:25:29] instances, the attorney general the
[00:25:33] federation has intervened either to take a case being prosecuted
[00:25:37] by DFCC or the ICPC, and he has the last say, buse
[00:25:41] that's what the constitution says, and what i'm
[00:25:45] insisting, what i'm saying is that we must
[00:25:48] learn, you say your country
[00:25:51] operates under the rule of law, every action of
[00:25:55] government, every action the president or DFCC chairman
[00:25:59] or ICPC chairman, a governor of a state.
[00:26:03] chairman of local government, a chairman must be in accordance
[00:26:06] with the rule of law, what does the law say? we are talking
[00:26:10] of ESCC, did you observe the provisions the law? it didn't go
[00:26:14] beyond 72 hours, the ESCC got a court
[00:26:17] order, now the president wanted
[00:26:21] to intervene, all I'm saying that it has to be
[00:26:24] done legally, and the only legal known
[00:26:28] to the rule of law, is through the office the attorney
[00:26:32] general. because there's no legal
[00:26:35] nexus, no legal nexus between the
[00:26:38] presidency and the office the chairman of
[00:26:42] DSCC, but there is one
[00:26:46] under section 174 the constitution, whereby the
[00:26:50] attorney general can intervene any case, whether it's
[00:26:54] a corruption case or not, it is now left for the
[00:26:58] public to challenge the attorney general, should you have
[00:27:01] exercised? powers, you
[00:27:05] grass, the circumstances of case,
[00:27:08] so very rare that the
[00:27:12] power the attorney general to fire nall prosecute to
[00:27:16] terminate a case can be challenged, only the members the public can do,
[00:27:20] not even the president, but the point of media, the
[00:27:23] president can advise, that's why i use the word
[00:27:27] advised, the president can advise the
[00:27:31] attorney general, another has been obtained by
[00:27:34] DFCC, can you work with the chairman the DFC to
[00:27:38] see what can be done, because I am embarrassed,
[00:27:42] people are alleging that I'm using federal
[00:27:45] agencies to manipulate the
[00:27:48] election system, and that is issue, but for
[00:27:52] me, the most serious issue as a
[00:27:56] humanized person that is not being addressed by
[00:27:59] Nigerians and I almost shouted my: the for
[00:28:02] us on is that in the last few weeks, not
[00:28:06] less than 30 people, human beings have be killed
[00:28:10] in oshin state, politically motivated
[00:28:14] killing, i am not aware that any the
[00:28:18] criminal elements involved
[00:28:22] in killing people have been charged before the court, and if
[00:28:26] you don't arrest them within the next few days
[00:28:29] and put them behind back. they are
[00:28:33] going to be on the pr to kill more
[00:28:36] people before or even during the
[00:28:40] elector so so yeah yeah the bigger
[00:28:44] question here is whether federal agency
[00:28:48] of government at the federal level at the national level can
[00:28:51] cripple the activity financial activity of a
[00:28:55] state government uh the question why freeze the source the
[00:28:58] account rather than trace the alleged suspicious
[00:29:02] transferred, identify the corporate recipients and seek
[00:29:06] targeted orders against those destination accounts. These
[00:29:10] are some the issues, because the state government has gone
[00:29:13] to,
[00:29:18] nobody can support any
[00:29:22] agency, whether or the federal government of a state, to
[00:29:25] cripple the functions of any state government,
[00:29:29] but mind you, mind you, from the information.
[00:29:33] at the disposal the public, only one
[00:29:36] account was involved, not all
[00:29:40] the accounts the state government, mind you,
[00:29:44] any case, once the court has
[00:29:47] ruled that
[00:29:51] the the EFCC has the power to
[00:29:55] stop the criminal diversion of public
[00:29:57] funds, whether elections are
[00:30:01] going to take place to... tomorrow or in in 10 days time, that's what
[00:30:05] nigeans may have to review now, at what
[00:30:09] stage can DACC and ICPC or even the
[00:30:12] police, stop making arrest,
[00:30:16] stop, stopping, I mean, stop,
[00:30:19] you know, investigating allegations of
[00:30:23] criminal diversion of public for, so and that is what has not
[00:30:27] been stated, but then nobody can say, go and
[00:30:30] criple any... government, no agency the government
[00:30:34] has the power to do it, but mind you,
[00:30:38] again, this is where I blame state government, the
[00:30:41] EFCC, according to the Supreme
[00:30:45] Court is not an agency
[00:30:49] the federal government, it's an agency the
[00:30:52] federation and...