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[00:00:07] of [00:00:10] of [00:00:18] of of [00:00:25] hello of out there, my name is and you are [00:00:29] on. to inside [00:00:30] sources, [00:00:35] but first is my thing for today and title [00:00:38] beyond chimamanda [00:00:41] of of son and healthcare system that is killing nigerians [00:00:44] quietly. today i want [00:00:46] to talk about [00:00:47] of something that should be on the ballot in [00:00:49] of 2027, in about four months we will have the elections [00:00:53] and posters are already going hulk, [00:00:55] of jingles are flooding the airwaves and politicians are [00:00:58] of making promises of rescue and... but I want to [00:01:01] ask today where is the health care in that [00:01:05] conversation, because Nigeria cannot continue to treat [00:01:08] of healthcare as a problem we only address when a famous [00:01:12] person dies [00:01:14] a or lose a loved [00:01:15] of one. I have to read what Chimamanda Adished told the New [00:01:19] York Times last week. She was asked if Nigeria still [00:01:23] felt close to our heart. This was our answer and I quoted. My feelings [00:01:27] towards Nigeria have changed. I don't want to go back to. Nigeria and [00:01:30] quote, that sentence should stop this country and [00:01:34] all of us in our tracks. This is woman who has [00:01:37] of spend our entire career writing Nigeria into the world's [00:01:40] imagination, and now Nigeria through its healthcare [00:01:44] system as broken our [00:01:46] of burnt, [00:01:46] we don't. Let's be clear about this. This is bigger than one famous [00:01:50] writer [00:01:51] of Griving at Tudler. This is what ordinary Nigerians go [00:01:54] of through every [00:01:55] a day without notice and without justice. Let me give you a [00:01:59] name. did not trend, i shout to uma, mother of five [00:02:03] incarno, she died after surgical scissors were left inside our [00:02:07] body after an operation [00:02:08] in a government hospital in cano state, okay, this was [00:02:11] confirmed, negligence and three personnel were [00:02:14] suspended, so ask [00:02:17] of how many [00:02:18] a eyesatumas do we have who never make the news? we have a [00:02:22] system [00:02:23] of failure, of there are people that are [00:02:27] in of dying regularly, do our hospitals have electricity, do they have have [00:02:30] oxygen, emergency drugs at 2 a.m. can the [00:02:33] patient [00:02:34] of get their records when they need it? is there an independent body that [00:02:38] diligently investigates complaints and when [00:02:41] of negligence is proven is there justice [00:02:45] of [00:02:45] of indeed? and yes, people will [00:02:46] in say, oh well, it happens everywhere in america and britain, well it [00:02:50] does, but the difference is the [00:02:53] of system of protects the people, that is why today i'm calling her, mr. [00:02:57] president, the ministers of health and all the 36th [00:03:01] of governors and the FCT minister on this [00:03:04] me issue, Mr. [00:03:05] me President, your renewed hope agenda cannot succeed if the [00:03:09] hospitals [00:03:09] of that are supposed to keep Nigerians alive are places where [00:03:13] hope dies. You need to set [00:03:16] of this of as national [00:03:18] of priority. Now these are important things that I think we can do, five things to [00:03:22] change the [00:03:22] of situation. Number one, we [00:03:24] of should stop counting buildings and start counting [00:03:27] functionality when we talk about health. number two, we should [00:03:31] make human capital the central reform, train [00:03:35] people, pay them well and keep them in the [00:03:38] of system. number three, we [00:03:40] of should build a patient safety system where a market [00:03:44] woman in abba can use and have access to [00:03:47] healthcare, we shouldn't [00:03:49] of have to be famous [00:03:51] of even be hard. number four: we should as [00:03:54] leaders listen, empathize, especially [00:03:58] of in the area of health care. empathy is not weakness, it [00:04:02] is [00:04:03] of leadership. of number five, there should be national [00:04:06] accountability [00:04:08] in dashboard of that should tell us what is happening in the [00:04:11] of healthcare system, and [00:04:12] of as we head into 2027, this must become a [00:04:15] campaign issue. we cannot spend the next several months [00:04:19] debating only politics and personalities while the very [00:04:23] infrastructure that keeps our human capital alive is [00:04:26] collapsing the healthcare [00:04:28] of system [00:04:29] a and every presidential [00:04:31] in [00:04:31] of candidate, every governor [00:04:33] of governorship candidate must tell us, what is your plan for our [00:04:36] hospitals? what is your plan for patient [00:04:39] safety? what is [00:04:41] of your plan for people getting access to healthcare? what is your [00:04:45] plan for stopping the brainn dain, especially in the medical [00:04:48] area, because ensuring that no family [00:04:51] in goes through [00:04:52] of what chimamanda and her family has gone through, what auma [00:04:55] has gone through is priority. if health care is not on the... [00:05:00] ballot then we are not having a serious conversation as [00:05:03] people. healthcare is not a luxury, it is not [00:05:07] a campaign aftert. it is the infrastructure [00:05:11] that keeps our nation. alive and it must [00:05:14] be part of what should decide who are [00:05:18] our next leaders, who is the next president, [00:05:22] who are the next governors, who are the national assembly [00:05:26] members, who are the next state legislators? let [00:05:30] us keep an eye on healthcare, it is [00:05:33] matter of life and death, and there you have [00:05:37] it, inside sources goes for plast right after [00:05:40] this: [00:05:45] Welcome back, today I'm leading the [00:05:48] show with a conversation uh with a [00:05:52] foundation member the ruling all progressive [00:05:55] congress who was also formally the director [00:05:59] general the voice of Nigeria. I like to welcome back [00:06:03] to inside sources by brother and friend Mr. [00:06:06] Ousita Okechuku, good to see you [00:06:08] again. It's my pleasure, thanks being here. [00:06:13] All right, now um, I wanted to have a [00:06:16] conversation on what is going on uh between the [00:06:20] governors the APC uh, [00:06:24] and Mr. Yesomite and his rainbow [00:06:27] coalition as it affects the the the [00:06:31] president, now I observe that you [00:06:35] did, what I consider to be an [00:06:37] excellent statement few days [00:06:41] ago, where you describe the governors, you [00:06:45] said uh, you call them few pretender [00:06:49] governors, so what I wanted to do very quickly first is [00:06:53] to give us a summary for the benefit of our audience, just a [00:06:57] summary of what you said in that statement and then we take it from [00:07:01] there, thank you very much for being in your [00:07:05] program, my own is [00:07:08] simple appeal to our dear [00:07:11] president. [00:07:14] GCFR appeal for caution, [00:07:18] appeal that he should be where or the [00:07:22] few pretender governors, i call them [00:07:25] pretenders, fpg, because they are feel [00:07:29] number, feel number because [00:07:33] lucky for the progressive congress, my great [00:07:37] party, we have 31 governors [00:07:38] today, if you cast your mind back. [00:07:43] by the end of President Muhammad's [00:07:46] leadership in 2023, [00:07:50] our great party had only 21 [00:07:53] governors, but [00:07:56] because the fact that we [00:07:59] said the [00:08:02] group, his party, PDP, our sister [00:08:05] political party that breached [00:08:09] violently the zoning [00:08:12] convention that it was that was instituted in [00:08:16] 1999 for the peace, harmony and [00:08:20] inclusion of all sections the country, that [00:08:24] when the president goes from north, it will come to the [00:08:28] south, after the south will go back to the [00:08:31] north, we are not saying that it [00:08:35] comes into the deals the old tenents of [00:08:38] democracy, but the point is that we have: [00:08:44] a polarized country arising [00:08:48] from the on all june 12th presidential election and [00:08:52] the elders the country said look, it's better to be done this [00:08:56] way and PDP [00:09:00] has it is their own section 7 their own [00:09:02] constitution, but because of power mongas [00:09:06] a group led by his [00:09:08] excellency it said no, [00:09:14] I'm not saying [00:09:15] that I support all the democratic [00:09:19] antics of his excellency next [00:09:21] week, but the truth the matter is [00:09:24] one, he hosted the PDP [00:09:28] presidential primaries in [00:09:32] 1918, in 2018, and no [00:09:36] Salden aspirant in the PDP [00:09:39] participated, even weak did not participate. [00:09:43] he committed the resource at his disposal to hosting [00:09:47] it and his [00:09:48] excellency, so for me [00:09:52] I support him because he had a good ground to oppose his [00:09:56] excellency, and ended up [00:09:59] reducing his substantial votes, that added [00:10:03] to the 8.7 million votes of [00:10:06] president [00:10:10] alone, he made. [00:10:14] 30 for 32 [00:10:16] votes visavis articles [00:10:19] 8800 and i said [00:10:23] why are these pretenders? saying that we that benefited [00:10:27] from the same weak mass [00:10:31] grade in [00:10:33] 2023 that to me [00:10:37] is still valid to mr president today [00:10:41] because if you are [00:10:41] president or his [00:10:45] supporter like some of us you might look [00:10:49] for all the firewood that will get him to sleep to [00:10:52] victory because there are: contentious issues on the [00:10:56] ground, he succeeded on the microeconomic [00:10:59] level, but the downside is the [00:11:02] micro aspect of trinkling down the gains of [00:11:06] that success to the el to the majority of nigerians [00:11:09] and here is a man who has the minister he [00:11:13] appointed had be more [00:11:15] vocal trying to spouse [00:11:19] president policies and doing well [00:11:23] in fc in the federal capital. where i live and [00:11:26] suddenly because few governor there [00:11:29] are few number because out of our 31 governors i don't think the up to [00:11:32] f that in their own [00:11:36] way utilize the votes [00:11:40] the electorate to come to power and [00:11:44] dumb them they will now want mr president to do [00:11:48] the same mr president we are okay [00:11:51] with the all that the weak and his mass created. [00:11:55] but please don't be, we are now okay, they forgot they got 31 [00:11:59] governors from, okay, my my brother, just so we [00:12:03] make it the conversation, um, you know, uh, let's [00:12:07] let's let me frame a question uh, you know, and [00:12:11] a comment, [00:12:12] you know, upon which you will respond, [00:12:15] now one the things that you have said so [00:12:18] far is is that it's only, you said only, you got [00:12:22] them few uh, return governor. and now you've added the fact that [00:12:26] they're just about four, no, I don't think they are up to four even, [00:12:30] fpg, [00:12:31] fpg out of 31, yeah, less than four, in law [00:12:34] proportion, the are exactly, yeah, but but [00:12:38] it's not just four people that came out, my brother, you [00:12:42] have representation, we don't know whether it's all or 31, but [00:12:46] certainly that was giving us an impression that all [00:12:50] them have agreed to this position, so [00:12:54] for instance, there are people who have identified uh [00:12:58] the the the the chairman the progressive governors forum himself you [00:13:02] know mr isima as you [00:13:06] know one the people that have a [00:13:08] grivince regarding the politics of wike in [00:13:12] MPC there also the governor of para [00:13:15] state uh who has also identified mean both them were [00:13:19] actually publicly identified by [00:13:23] uh by Mr. Wike himself. so I don't [00:13:26] think we can say, [00:13:30] I don't think we can say that it's just the differently, I'm [00:13:33] saying that I don't think you should limit it to just [00:13:37] the two or maximum four them because all them [00:13:41] are brother sister, all them [00:13:44] you know mostly came out, why do you think the others will line [00:13:48] up behind those that we've [00:13:51] identified and? [00:13:55] if they don't believe in it, you know, wanted to address that question, why would the line behind [00:13:59] them? thank you very much for a good [00:14:01] question, i've been in partisan politics [00:14:04] nigeriana for the last 48 [00:14:08] years, 1978 to [00:14:11] date, don't ask me what i have [00:14:14] achieved, but i've gardered experience along the [00:14:17] line, one of which is that the [00:14:21] governors have become one the most powerful. [00:14:27] conventional organs of any political party in [00:14:30] Nigeria, just like the zoning is a [00:14:33] convention, because some would say is not a law, it's [00:14:36] not a law, but it's a convention, the governors are not listed in any [00:14:40] party as an organ, but they are the [00:14:43] most powerful because they control what we call in governant the [00:14:47] ground, and when there's a an [00:14:50] old convention as well that if we belong to any... [00:14:55] club, one the tennis the club might [00:14:58] be, if it affects my friend, you should [00:15:02] be involved, if it affects, [00:15:06] you should be involved, abdullah, if it [00:15:10] affects yosita please, you should [00:15:11] be involved, it becomes kind of [00:15:15] a norm a club called the governors, progressive governor [00:15:18] forum, out of quich, i don't want to [00:15:22] name names, mhm but [00:15:25] what i'm saying is if they want [00:15:29] to be helpful to mr. [00:15:32] president, there are issues to be [00:15:35] addressed. do you cast a mind [00:15:39] back that mr president and his [00:15:42] honorable and the honorable attorney general the [00:15:44] federation b the candles went to the [00:15:48] spring courts saying the spring court since we cannot [00:15:52] easily get the local government funds in the hands [00:15:56] the local government please bail us out and the [00:16:00] spring court gave a profound judgement along that [00:16:04] line if there were [00:16:07] helpful to president [00:16:11] to do is to establish [00:16:13] landmark that we governors if we [00:16:17] get this bunch of money we give the local government to manage we can supervise [00:16:20] them did they do so where it [00:16:24] matters for the [00:16:27] corvette the erosion in rural [00:16:31] communities the health centers we are talking [00:16:33] about the primary school [00:16:38] to be updated, refurbished and teachers and [00:16:42] students [00:16:42] to be made happy with local government funds, it was very easy and [00:16:46] convenient for them to pocket, and [00:16:49] democracy always have [00:16:51] referendum [00:16:53] day and the referendum is the election, if the governors, [00:16:57] the few, the fpg governors have done so well, they would be afraid of [00:17:01] weak, but all I'm advising Mr. President is [00:17:05] if I name, I can't. don't weak at this point in [00:17:09] time because I need him, [00:17:12] 44.7% of votes river state [00:17:16] where Mr. President could have had 80 something [00:17:18] like [00:17:21] 231% [00:17:25] which weak with all the [00:17:28] political and everything he have done in [00:17:32] river, but also [00:17:35] share it with whoever. [00:17:40] but are [00:17:40] you saying sorry to interrupt you, are you saying [00:17:44] that the the votes in rivers thing is going to be cast [00:17:47] by mr.son my brother, the way you are analyzing [00:17:51] it, i think [00:17:53] that i'm saying there are four major states that own the [00:17:57] votes the country, rivers is one [00:18:00] them, i'm saying that the [00:18:03] few thousands of votes he can gana for mr president, mr. [00:18:07] needs it, you need to add it to the [00:18:09] cofer, but if you [00:18:13] dump him at the pgs are [00:18:16] saying, i don't see how it adds to the [00:18:19] number of votes mr. president will get, because none [00:18:22] them can do so for him. i'm [00:18:26] limiting myself to river states, because i also [00:18:29] know that because the fact that we care in political [00:18:33] science class, the they classify actors like [00:18:36] that, those who bring all their fire [00:18:38] would. okay, let ask you, let [00:18:42] ask you brother sit. so um, by [00:18:46] the way, just for food disclosure, i agree with [00:18:50] you that the governor's, you know, that you have [00:18:54] described as fpg, few [00:18:57] with very interesting category. i agree with [00:19:01] you that this is not the kind [00:19:04] of matter that they h to ring to the [00:19:08] public, I agree with you that this is the kind of matter that should have [00:19:12] be sorted within the you know the the the [00:19:15] structures the party or you know individually with the [00:19:19] president and it's quite curious [00:19:21] we will [00:19:22] get to that possibly that they are making this move [00:19:24] uh while the president is abroad on [00:19:28] vacation [00:19:31] you know is is curious and suspicious but that is neither here nor [00:19:35] there but the point i want to make is that even though I agree with the [00:19:39] fact that this is [00:19:40] not a matter that they should have gone public with, [00:19:43] Fubara, the governor of River State is now an [00:19:47] APC member, is [00:19:50] the are you saying [00:19:51] you know that Fubara cannot deliver river [00:19:55] state vote for the president, is that what you are saying, brother or [00:19:59] sister? no, I i'm not saying so, [00:20:03] but I'm saying as you said that one the questions I [00:20:07] post to pj [00:20:08] is this: our great party [00:20:11] had mechanisms of resolution of issues, [00:20:15] even if you don't want Mr. President, we have a chairman [00:20:18] the party and a strong [00:20:20] executive, that he could meet, I say [00:20:24] please, since we are friendly with [00:20:27] week, Mr. Chairman, can you call a meeting, we can even [00:20:31] go to his his louge or wherever, [00:20:35] I meet with him, I'm playing with him. [00:20:39] that the president just went to Europe few [00:20:43] days ago, there is also a [00:20:47] virtual meeting we inherited from covid, because crisis that happened in the [00:20:51] world has a some advantages gain after the crisis, the [00:20:54] covid left us to virtual meeting, [00:20:58] mr. which is what you and I are using right now, great, and [00:21:02] Mr. President is a consument politician, [00:21:06] I don't think the their anger started brewing today or their [00:21:10] consultation with other governors, Mr. President, please, before you [00:21:13] travel, can we have a meeting with you with our [00:21:17] friend, is I regard weak as a friend? [00:21:20] to the party, because if he had [00:21:22] allowed his excellency articu to go full [00:21:26] trottle, even in the next [00:21:30] election is still one the greatest [00:21:33] obstacle to article gaining the numerican votes to [00:21:37] win, we can see one them, [00:21:40] and it's one of those actors as I told you that bring all the firewood [00:21:44] on the table, I ask the f [00:21:46] pgs, there is an old work. [00:21:52] some call it kitchen cabinet, some call it [00:21:56] kar, are they not, don't they have [00:21:59] access to Mr. President, okay, Mr. President, we [00:22:03] waiting for you, when you are back from your your holidays in [00:22:07] Europe, we need an urgent matter to be addressed, at least [00:22:11] we have about four months to the election, but [00:22:14] today as a pretender, you are telling Mr. President, your votes are [00:22:18] gone, your votes gone how, but to the extent that [00:22:22] their survivor as politicians is being antagonized, [00:22:26] is being threatened by wiki, [00:22:29] you know, uh, we should not expect them to sit down and just [00:22:33] look, and this is not a new problem, brother and sister, over to [00:22:36] you, thank you very much, I do [00:22:40] not disagree with their position, there's an ol [00:22:44] saying that if you allow your [00:22:47] war to get cracked, [00:22:51] you see tiny hands, if you don't [00:22:55] amend it or amend it, you might [00:22:58] see lizards, the next day might be [00:23:02] snakes, so keep that one aside, i think [00:23:06] that the governors most the time, there are those that came to power [00:23:10] in the country, but don't know about power, if [00:23:14] they know about power and they have a good political [00:23:16] advisers, what they exposed? [00:23:20] themselves, not the the question of [00:23:23] promoting weak, but exposing themselves, because if you come [00:23:27] up with a problem that is not [00:23:29] there, my friend, [00:23:33] this issue of weak, i don't see anywhere a political [00:23:37] party where it can be thrown open, it's [00:23:40] not that way, the only thing is that they came with a problem [00:23:43] mindset, mindset of emperors, [00:23:47] emperor is normally not threaten by any [00:23:50] whisper or any noise, otherwise if [00:23:54] they are not running emperorship and they have a good collegal system in their [00:23:58] states, somebody will tell them, the solution [00:24:01] is, mr. president, meet meet him, you have [00:24:04] access, solution, not problem, [00:24:08] but if you are emperor where there is no danger, you [00:24:12] cry for danger, you cry wolf when there's no wolf, because you are [00:24:16] threatened because one, [00:24:18] you did not allow mr president to strengthen the local [00:24:22] councils, we APC could added in our [00:24:26] campaign that today, whether you like [00:24:29] it or not, holy [00:24:31] your cancelor, because this is how much will give to the local government where [00:24:35] i came from, no what they did with it, but [00:24:39] because the fact that they [00:24:43] were doing this pretention, they pretended to mister president [00:24:46] that there [00:24:46] is no giving them money, please don't advance this... if that [00:24:50] is vilation the law, because the supreme court the [00:24:53] country, the last court the country give a profine [00:24:57] judgement, it's over one year, i think it was in [00:25:00] July 2004, so it's about two years [00:25:04] plus, it was not be implemented, if [00:25:07] he know the development, it could have caused the country, because they [00:25:11] don't have the thinking power cap, what they have is only coming [00:25:15] to power, becoming emperor using long chains [00:25:19] of... a a hungry [00:25:22] society, if they were power [00:25:25] students, they could have allowed judgment, that judgment to be [00:25:28] implemented, they will have weak problem, local [00:25:32] government council that is doing well in their local governments could have been [00:25:36] a wage because they are closer to the [00:25:40] people, they know the needs the people, this security in the country could have been [00:25:44] less, but the they came with the same pretense [00:25:47] and mister president please, you need the judgment [00:25:51] is is a spring code judgment don't advance it and [00:25:55] mr present not advance it i was one of those two whisper to his [00:25:58] minders that i can reach told them since the national [00:26:02] assembly is friendly with Mr. President, let this sp court judgement [00:26:06] be documented or into the [00:26:10] constitutional amendment, but because they were afraid the so-called [00:26:13] emperor governors, but most them [00:26:17] i'm happy that most APC governors have done so [00:26:21] well, the wicked thing we are talking, when I look at my friends [00:26:25] in KK states the north, I didn't see the hand work of wicked [00:26:28] there, and those were those areas where we can find so... [00:26:32] the majority votes, did see them in the [00:26:35] southwest where my brothers are are holding [00:26:38] ground, so what is the [00:26:41] matter? you are trying to very good, very [00:26:45] good point, [00:26:46] what is the matter? now um, i have [00:26:49] gotten a few uh feedback [00:26:53] uh from the from the leadership and [00:26:57] you know the governors the [00:26:57] of progressing forum and one things that i was [00:27:01] told, was that [00:27:03] you know there is a there is a model that is being uh pushed [00:27:07] forward that is called www [00:27:11] you know and this is not confirmed but hey you know uh I'm [00:27:14] putting [00:27:15] it out there because it does make sense [00:27:17] you know when you look at what this governs are doing he said is [00:27:19] WWW win without Wiki that's what he [00:27:23] said he said that the president can win this election the [00:27:27] presidential election without week [00:27:29] that's even specifically the ATC the [00:27:32] claim riversity without wicky [00:27:36] and considering what is considered to be the absurdity the politics [00:27:40] of week, one leg in and one leg out, [00:27:44] which has never happened in the way [00:27:46] that he has done it in our country, many them are repulsed [00:27:50] by it and i'm sure that you know quite a lot of people don't even [00:27:54] understand [00:27:55] you know some the games that we can play, so so [00:27:59] wanted to ask you: do you [00:28:03] agree that the president can win river state and win the [00:28:07] election as the situation is today without [00:28:09] wikt [00:28:12] is the is weak support and imperative for president in [00:28:16] 2027 - one points must make [00:28:19] clear is that my great party do not depend [00:28:23] on wicket to win victory but the point [00:28:27] is that we are a critical [00:28:30] consequential 2027. election [00:28:34] where there is hunger in the land, [00:28:37] hunger is a big weapon of [00:28:40] war, so anybody who [00:28:44] is advising Mr. President, if you find [00:28:47] one that can be of [00:28:51] help, forget [00:28:54] that if you [00:28:54] find [00:28:58] one on that can be useful, forget him. [00:29:02] "if I'm one the advisors of Mr. President, as my own, I would say, [00:29:06] Mr. President, you need all the firewood, because the country [00:29:10] is hungry, and there's nothing we can do between [00:29:14] now and January 16th to [00:29:17] amend to the hunger. He paid me the other week [00:29:21] when I read in the story that the [00:29:24] attorney accountant general the federation is squiring [00:29:28] 33. Something billion that he'. [00:29:32] auditor general, sorry, sorry, auditor general, sorry, that the auditor [00:29:36] general, official office is [00:29:40] squiring 33. something billion that could have gone to poor [00:29:44] people, that he couldn't trace the poor people. i [00:29:47] thought the the apg governors, if they were sincere [00:29:50] with, that's what they could have told mr. president, we must look into the [00:29:54] couprites, rather, they are talking of a [00:29:58] friend of Mr. president, a minister that had demonstrated. [00:30:02] on daily basis, this [00:30:04] is the road I'm constructing, he's going here, he's 30 [00:30:08] km, if you tell us who live a po [00:30:11] village, the weekak should be dispensed, some them [00:30:15] might not be supporters of weekek before, but today you can go [00:30:19] to that village without any go any point in time, even in Russia [00:30:22] hour, how do you address such electorate that I found weak [00:30:26] useful, he built he helped them [00:30:30] to build a residential in [00:30:33] Wasa, if you go there, if you are one of those who [00:30:36] live there, you might be enemy before to weak, but today you might not be, [00:30:40] I let them not forget, because it's always good to pick the pieces [00:30:44] together, there was a time with so much around with the [00:30:47] PDP, it was weaker that picked the pdp [00:30:51] up, is it only river that he picked up, when [00:30:55] i'm distinguished sheriff [00:30:59] were doing the real