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[00:00:31] Good evening everyone and welcome to Sunday Politics live on
[00:00:35] Channel's television. I am Shakim for you here in
[00:00:38] Abuja. The APC is getting
[00:00:41] defectors. The party received new members and their
[00:00:45] parties national secretariat in Abuja and
[00:00:48] of the reasons for the defector's movement into the
[00:00:52] ruling party are clear. Take a listen to them. We are not
[00:00:56] here for any financial
[00:00:59] of again. We are not here for any pecuniary
[00:01:03] a interest, we are not here for any monetary consideration,
[00:01:07] but we are here for the sake
[00:01:08] of the unity of
[00:01:12] of Nigeria, your excellency, we are
[00:01:16] grassroot politician with strong followership, significant
[00:01:19] political influence and credible chances of winning
[00:01:23] elections in our various constituencies, your
[00:01:27] excellency, as you see us here, every one is highly
[00:01:30] productive in their careers, highly successful,
[00:01:34] we are adequately educated and exposed, so we are not
[00:01:38] here to joke, we are here to
[00:01:41] support the
[00:01:43] of pathway to success that is APC.
[00:01:46] well, receiving them to at this point as
[00:01:49] we head into the elections means one thing for the
[00:01:53] APC leadership. let me welcome all of you to
[00:01:57] our great party. and thank you for taking
[00:02:01] this decisive action
[00:02:05] that you're not just changing a platform,
[00:02:09] but you're coming in to join in reinforcing
[00:02:12] our belief in president and it's a new
[00:02:16] hope agenda,
[00:02:19] i'm happy
[00:02:21] that most of you are from northern part of
[00:02:23] me nigeria, where i
[00:02:23] me come from, where all of
[00:02:25] me us come from, if anybody has to work for the unity
[00:02:29] of net. Nigeria is
[00:02:33] of president we repeat the same thing he has done for
[00:02:34] us, that's why I'm
[00:02:38] happy that you're coming to join h with us so
[00:02:42] we can build a stronger Nigeria, a more united
[00:02:46] Nigeria in Nigeria that will work for the
[00:02:49] prosperity, common prosperity of
[00:02:52] of the common man
[00:02:53] of the street, but as the party is gaining
[00:02:57] more members is it gaining the confidence. of
[00:03:00] Nigerians, as race to 2027 election
[00:03:04] intensifies, the government's proposed petrol price
[00:03:07] measures have
[00:03:08] of reopened of the debate over subsidy, the cost of reform and the
[00:03:12] relief
[00:03:13] of households are still waiting for. The minister gave the
[00:03:16] nation the new price and petroleum administration regime and its
[00:03:20] protocol. Pump
[00:03:24] of prices should not have to
[00:03:27] follow every swing
[00:03:29] of in of global. crude or the exchange rate, the
[00:03:33] government is negotiating sealing of 1,350
[00:03:37] nar a liter on the guntry or
[00:03:41] of landing cost of petrol to keep on prices
[00:03:43] stable, where cost right
[00:03:46] of above the
[00:03:47] of ceiling, refiners and importers will carry the
[00:03:51] shortfall and recover it later, when crude prices or
[00:03:55] exchange rates allow without brising the
[00:03:57] ceiling, this is neither is subsidy not a
[00:04:01] price control of course on that
[00:04:05] announcement barrage of responses and
[00:04:08] reactions have trilled it and it's coming so fast
[00:04:11] opposition leaders are giving their thoughts have
[00:04:15] criticisms on the APC governments
[00:04:19] of decisions.
[00:04:22] a
[00:04:29] me a how of of of of many and
[00:04:32] stations
[00:04:33] of the country? less than 1, you
[00:04:37] also propose a measure to
[00:04:39] of content of
[00:04:39] prices,
[00:04:44] but when
[00:04:44] me i propose targeted supports, you call
[00:04:48] me ignorant of economic
[00:04:50] policy, your government said it could not be
[00:04:53] done, now
[00:04:57] me in a desperate and cl retreat, you have sham.
[00:05:02] of of
[00:05:11] It means that is: 6,400 per
[00:05:13] month, are we not in trouble? opposition
[00:05:17] candidates are challenging president obu record,
[00:05:21] while disputes within the ruling party raised questions about
[00:05:25] his unity and readiness for the all
[00:05:29] important 2027 polls tonight on the program, we
[00:05:33] put those questions to the man with at his center of
[00:05:36] it all, the APC national chairman professor
[00:05:40] entawe, can his party turn
[00:05:43] political strength into better living conditions and
[00:05:47] make a convincing case for another mandate.
[00:05:51] i'm shi, welcome to the program everyone and good evening, thank you so
[00:05:55] much for joining us, prof, good evening, sh, it's good to see you, good meeting you
[00:05:58] too. how are you today? uh, great. all right, mean it's
[00:06:02] interesting, and we getting nearer to the election. i saw that
[00:06:05] you went on vacation and have you recuperated enough
[00:06:09] to get started for the election? not. do vacation, i went
[00:06:13] to plan, oh you went on retreat, yes, personal
[00:06:17] retreat to plan, and i came back straight to
[00:06:20] medi for retreat with all the working, national working
[00:06:24] committee the party, all the state uh
[00:06:27] chairman and the critical people that will play a role in 2027
[00:06:31] general election, i was with them for four days in three days in my
[00:06:35] degree and um, it was we ex-ray the
[00:06:38] party, we look at our strength, we look at our weaknesses,
[00:06:42] and we look at the opportunities are there for us to win the election and we measure
[00:06:46] ourself, we
[00:06:47] are good to go, so it was all true also that you were sort
[00:06:51] of inducing people, bribing them, 5 billion for
[00:06:54] governors, two billion for senators, 1 billion for house
[00:06:58] of reps, house of assembly like that, like that, I'm sure, I'm
[00:07:02] sure, I'm sure that's what they're doing, they said you're doling out money, that's that's what they're doing
[00:07:06] rather as opposition, they've done all they can to
[00:07:09] win even a word chairman in our party, win
[00:07:12] it, that's the least they would have done, they can't even
[00:07:16] get one person from ap to come to their party,
[00:07:20] so do you actually bripe people? oh, do you actually bride me
[00:07:24] to come here? ask you, i ask for, ask you
[00:07:27] also, so the people that are defecting, i'm asking, are you
[00:07:31] bribing them in the real sense, do you give them any incentives? let
[00:07:34] me, let me, let ask, let ask you lear them with anything, let ask you a
[00:07:38] question, when governs were coming, they said we're paying each governor
[00:07:42] to defect 200 billion, that's a
[00:07:46] figure, that's what they gave, now we moved over how many
[00:07:50] governors, we're taking of how many trillions that would have
[00:07:53] moved, you can't moved like 3
[00:07:56] trillion out of economy, without the economy
[00:07:59] shaking and without the movement
[00:08:02] being seen, without the trail, without the trust, are you paying them in
[00:08:05] inst, but that's what they claim, you see so when people make
[00:08:09] claims, big claims, I would have asked,
[00:08:13] I would have loved them to bring evidence, but the seeds people are
[00:08:17] just just propagandis, they made one them,
[00:08:21] one the sportman of ADC made one statement to tell you how
[00:08:25] they don't even know what's happening even in government in their country, he
[00:08:28] said the total amount given to the students for student
[00:08:32] loan is 20,000 per
[00:08:34] annum, he did even know that we pay school
[00:08:38] fees, the whole school fees the the
[00:08:42] students. the amount, what is 5 million, 3 million, 4
[00:08:45] million is paid for you, but every month we give
[00:08:49] them 10, 20,000 for up, the assumed because one
[00:08:53] them, those students that got the money and they were on air, they were
[00:08:57] celebrating, and they say we paid our 20 thousand, he
[00:09:00] assumed that is amount being given to them, they don't even study the
[00:09:04] document, they don't have time to for regos, they don't have time for details
[00:09:08] and that's why the the the the
[00:09:12] craft go to
[00:09:13] the air with those numbers and just throw them to the air, well give us an
[00:09:17] understanding, what evidence shows that
[00:09:21] these defactors reflect public
[00:09:24] approval of president's policies or these
[00:09:28] government's policies rather than politicians calculating where their
[00:09:32] careers are safest, because everyone politicians want
[00:09:36] safe haven for them, are you winning over nigerians or you
[00:09:40] are simply recruiting, let me let ask you these politicians, who are these
[00:09:44] Nigerians? are politicians not
[00:09:46] Nigerians? do you want to separate Nigerian into
[00:09:49] categories? which category going to place people that don't actually
[00:09:53] support, but and who told you
[00:09:56] that only people that people would on the policies of this
[00:10:00] government? of course, of course, but you listen to
[00:10:04] the the the statements, the
[00:10:06] confession, let ask
[00:10:10] question, me the you a let take one
[00:10:14] candidates, his excellency was the vice
[00:10:16] president, he chaired the economic team
[00:10:20] as 1999,
[00:10:22] 2003. he privatized most the critical
[00:10:26] infrastructure of this country, let me take one
[00:10:29] them, the aluminium spelling company
[00:10:33] aquibon, he caught penny, it was
[00:10:37] built for $3.5 billion US dollars, it was
[00:10:41] sold for less than 130 million US
[00:10:43] dollars, less than 4% the cost
[00:10:47] of building infrastructure, you mean that in less than
[00:10:51] five years the company was less was either
[00:10:55] it has degraded by
[00:10:57] 96%
[00:11:01] in this
[00:11:01] are not listening and they don't know
[00:11:05] the the the the iron smelting
[00:11:09] company in in delta the iron in
[00:11:13] delta it was built for 1.5 billion US
[00:11:15] dollars it was sold for 3000 for 30 million yes
[00:11:19] dollars just about
[00:11:22] 3% the cost. of building construction, you mean
[00:11:26] has degraded in less than in about 10 years
[00:11:30] and accountable for this, of course these people
[00:11:34] are, these are facts, people are reading it, people
[00:11:37] know, people know, he came out and even
[00:11:41] confess, he said he's sorry to nigerians and we
[00:11:45] made mistake in the power sector, because they spent 15 billion,
[00:11:49] we couldn't see anything that the f 15 billion us dollars that was
[00:11:52] invested in that sector,
[00:11:54] you know, now so we you can visibly see what
[00:11:58] we're doing, but what are the legacy of
[00:12:01] articu? which the
[00:12:05] companies when he came in
[00:12:07] Toyota Pujo was functional, it was
[00:12:11] running, all the cars that were given national assembly members 1999 came
[00:12:15] from Pujo, he privatized it, today pujo,
[00:12:19] after privat, pujo cannot produce one i mean,
[00:12:23] you are sing. he was vice president, he was vice
[00:12:26] president, but he he chaired the privat
[00:12:29] company, committee, and you think
[00:12:33] he ch, he chted, of
[00:12:35] course, and for this reason
[00:12:38] you don't think that giving you one example, just give
[00:12:41] an example, mean you can't put him side by side with
[00:12:45] president b, how is your candidate better than
[00:12:49] article, far better, now i'll give you many
[00:12:52] factors, presidentable met
[00:12:56] legos at roughly about 18 about 14
[00:13:00] billion naira per annum roughly today we are
[00:13:04] talking about over a
[00:13:06] trillion revenue is sort of
[00:13:09] institution institutions to work in the rail
[00:13:13] the blue line the red line in lagos red line
[00:13:17] today they are all functional he said that lasma is
[00:13:21] functional institutions
[00:13:25] another institution build up lagos, he came today, he came up
[00:13:28] here, what has he done, first he set up the tax regime, new
[00:13:32] tax tax law, tax law has brought in has free
[00:13:36] in more resources for the poorest the poor in this
[00:13:38] country, before now you recall before
[00:13:42] this tax reform, if you have bicycle in the village, you pay tax for
[00:13:46] bicycle, you pay tax for radio, you pay tax for
[00:13:50] tv, you pay tax for even the chicken you are taking to
[00:13:54] go and sell in the market. you are going to sell vegetable, you pay tax for it,
[00:13:57] today your turnover must be more than 100 million na before you pay
[00:14:01] tax on it, it has free money for the less
[00:14:04] privilege for the SMEs to strive, business Nigeria to
[00:14:08] strive, before now, if
[00:14:11] you're a civil servant, if you're earning even 10 n your
[00:14:14] tax today, if you're earning less than 800
[00:14:18] thousand per annum, you not paid, me not tax, for
[00:14:22] any salary you earning per annum, they will deduct the... first 100, the
[00:14:26] first um 800 thousand for you the before they will start
[00:14:30] taxing you and they also give you housing the they
[00:14:34] defer housing this for you so you have a percentage
[00:14:38] also that that they dox your salary are for for also for
[00:14:41] for for rent so you know there are so much that has
[00:14:45] come to the poreest to the poor in terms the tax regime
[00:14:49] favoring the poorest the poor this is reform the government has done but that
[00:14:53] same tax have brought mom to government, it has brought more people to tax
[00:14:57] net, people that us don't used to pay tax before, they brought tax net,
[00:15:01] and it has increased tax the country without affecting the policy the poor,
[00:15:05] and the same way he has done for power, the new power regime
[00:15:08] allow for the states and
[00:15:12] private citizen to generate power, sell to the
[00:15:16] to individuals, sell to government and also they can
[00:15:19] generate, they can transmit and they can distribute as
[00:15:23] states now, this opportunity has given the state that
[00:15:27] generating power, of course you know that b has already commissioned their
[00:15:30] own has already commission their
[00:15:33] own, the same thing with you, no state
[00:15:37] administer. government inugu has already no commission uh their
[00:15:40] projects to, where were they before? i can go on and
[00:15:44] on and on and tell the policy
[00:15:47] defectors, yes, can you categorically tell
[00:15:51] nigerians that joining APC guarantees
[00:15:55] neither a ticket nor protection from
[00:15:58] investigation, and how do you explain how your party makes
[00:16:02] that these defectors are not holding, these defectors are
[00:16:04] not even holding a position in government, and they are not running
[00:16:08] from the law, they're running from the law, because
[00:16:10] like okay, the feeling is that once anybody enter into
[00:16:14] ABC is covered, all his sing them
[00:16:17] today is a professor who was running for the house of
[00:16:21] representative on the ADC, he opted to
[00:16:25] leave to join us, these are these are not
[00:16:28] giving
[00:16:29] him any ticket, nothing, you are not protecting from
[00:16:32] the law been closed, we can't even make the statement that once
[00:16:36] anybody enter in your party is protected from the law, no, all
[00:16:40] his sins
[00:16:42] are are forgiven, give me one evidence, there are there are very notable
[00:16:45] nigerians undergoing
[00:16:48] prosecution, and all of sudden once they enter into your party, there's
[00:16:52] some kind of quiet, give me one evidence, the the the
[00:16:55] allegations is actually the statement is linked to a
[00:16:59] senior member of your party, give me one evidence,
[00:17:03] should we go to delta state, yes, the former governor?
[00:17:08] so if and has procedusion stopped? when
[00:17:12] last did hear anything about that? i say has pr stopped i mean i'm
[00:17:16] asking sir, have you heard anything recently about? he left office which
[00:17:19] year 2023? how many
[00:17:23] years ago? it's about three and a half years ago? good. so
[00:17:27] he defect our the prosecution
[00:17:30] started which year before he left your party? no, before
[00:17:34] before he left office even.
[00:17:38] so all of sudden there is no, even before then, of course it's a
[00:17:42] procedure, i just wanted to get your commitment
[00:17:46] that anybody coming to your party is not, as soon
[00:17:50] as the enter your party, they are not safe from the law, they are not, they are not
[00:17:53] protected, nobody protected, nobody is
[00:17:56] protected,
[00:17:59] i don't
[00:17:59] want to mention names, but i know members of our party alsoing
[00:18:02] prosecution, who appear in the court
[00:18:05] every day? and you mean tell me
[00:18:09] that are they less members the APC? now you know
[00:18:12] anybody, as long as you've not been
[00:18:14] convicted, we assumed that you're
[00:18:18] innocent, because that's what the law says, so as as as
[00:18:22] APC members, we can't use strict
[00:18:25] prosecution to go ahead and deny people that fundamental human
[00:18:29] rights. you are having a lot of problems, you say you have done a lot
[00:18:33] of internal problems and i'll give
[00:18:49] to you sir, you have problem in chinas i have many problem
[00:18:53] also,
[00:18:53] as every private organization do the same thing with the party, so no political
[00:18:57] party and i'll point this out to you sir, yes
[00:19:00] um you said you've done the retreat, the internal
[00:19:04] ranker within your party, what mechanism have you put in place
[00:19:08] to reserving them, now let me just
[00:19:11] um put it up to you first, we put up there are
[00:19:15] prefault um approach that we've
[00:19:18] done, so we analyze them, we look at the risk
[00:19:21] factor, we look at the actors in each the states
[00:19:25] and we set up different committees to reach
[00:19:29] out to people based on where the risk
[00:19:32] factor, the people actors involved and the
[00:19:36] people they can listen to. and also
[00:19:38] we don't even
[00:19:39] have major issues, mean major issues like
[00:19:43] cattina we don't have any major issue, masari and the
[00:19:46] governor that
[00:19:47] has been resolved was family
[00:19:49] issue, no
[00:19:53] major issue really, yes a lot the
[00:19:57] members of your party have left and they said that now sitting
[00:20:00] senator the APC has gotten a ticket in the PDP,
[00:20:04] they said the center.
[00:20:08] but for the other position is against the APC.
[00:20:12] now when you said somebody has left the
[00:20:16] party, the first question as are we engaging him as
[00:20:20] a party? are you the people
[00:20:21] are engaging them? are you? of course, and there are specifically
[00:20:25] onkara mat, how
[00:20:27] are you reserving it? we we have we have mechanism the people, the
[00:20:30] feeling out there inquiry is that there is no way APC can win
[00:20:34] governorship or any, that's that's your own feeling, no, i said the feeler.
[00:20:37] that's your own feeler
[00:20:41] now let me just you know the is people like you make
[00:20:44] assumption there are people have assumption that only quar central can
[00:20:48] produce a governor and that's what your belief is
[00:20:51] to and because statistically believe that karata
[00:20:55] central bring the highest number of votes to the table and that's why they
[00:20:59] can always be the people that table to win the election. quar
[00:21:03] south produces the least number of votes in the
[00:21:06] state. para south has produced a governor.
[00:21:10] para north is the second in terms of voting strength
[00:21:13] of paras of quar state they may not produce a
[00:21:17] governor they have actually but
[00:21:19] not in this. public, not this republic, that was
[00:21:23] 91, and he definition, all the governors that
[00:21:27] have come in from Lawal in 1999 till
[00:21:30] till date, only one
[00:21:32] person is from, all the rest are froma central, so the party in his
[00:21:36] own wisdom fell that they should be inclusion and they
[00:21:40] moved the seat to the kara
[00:21:43] note, the pr center people are not happy because they
[00:21:47] failed they should have it. but the qu not
[00:21:51] are very happy, mean very happy that for
[00:21:55] the first time a part political party
[00:21:59] is given in the first right of
[00:22:01] denial, so even when the governor at the first
[00:22:05] endorsed,
[00:22:09] now you see a governor is as an
[00:22:12] individual, the party is
[00:22:15] institution, so the institution is greater than any
[00:22:19] individual in the party. was your leadership that prevailed on the
[00:22:22] governor for you to have not s not
[00:22:26] a northern candidate from karara you know they have the
[00:22:29] stakeholders and there are there institution the party at
[00:22:33] the state level so we don't actually make a choice to people choice
[00:22:37] to to the state who they want to make their governor or the senatural
[00:22:41] candidate but there are stakeholders that are engaged so he wasn't the president
[00:22:45] or your office never it was people it was an
[00:22:49] engagement. engagement is costing the party
[00:22:52] is is
[00:22:53] is a threat to your party in there's nowhere that you can take a
[00:22:56] decision on um when you have contestant you have 16
[00:23:00] contestant to one position sarakid's popularity is swaring now
[00:23:04] no APC is as that's that's your
[00:23:07] thinking giving you know you are in abuja
[00:23:11] i'm a journalist and
[00:23:13] i have my ey
[00:23:15] your ears your ears are based on sentiment listen
[00:23:19] to I take
[00:23:20] you to, yes and the deputy senate
[00:23:24] president, you're late, that's a problem, you're late, I saw the meeting with the
[00:23:27] governor, and
[00:23:31] those are photos, told you that the real problem has not been
[00:23:35] resolved, well now is supposed to resolve this problem, is not the
[00:23:39] party, and we're here and we say we resolved
[00:23:43] it, now let me just tell
[00:23:45] you, there's no political
[00:23:48] party. "there's no political party that you're bringing
[00:23:52] millions of people in only one roof and
[00:23:56] you said you don't have little frictions, but you not look at the
[00:24:00] overall threat to the system and the
[00:24:02] party,
[00:24:05] all
[00:24:07] the all the election will be winning, in those states they may have their
[00:24:10] little difference all those, but when it comes to the overall interest the
[00:24:14] party, what matters is how we
[00:24:18] can go and win the election." so we have the majority
[00:24:21] behind you, yes, I can mention, I can go on and
[00:24:24] on, Ogun, Jigawa, Balchi, Sokoto and
[00:24:28] everywhere there are problems in your party, but the question I'm asking you
[00:24:32] tonight is lot of your members who are watching now and who
[00:24:36] are worried that some these fictions that you're talking about and you
[00:24:39] have uh decided on on this interview to downgrade
[00:24:43] those those crisis those
[00:24:46] are thinking
[00:24:47] that is major threat.
[00:24:51] party: naturally, when somebody is injured or when somebody is
[00:24:54] angry, he expresses himself, which will allow as a
[00:24:58] party, is a fundamental human right to express themselves,
[00:25:02] but the people who are comfortable, they don't come out to express
[00:25:06] themselves, so maybe in Karno, you have about three f people have come out to
[00:25:10] express themselves, they come on camera on tv and express that they're
[00:25:14] angry, meanwile there are millions of people, members the party in
[00:25:18] Kano who don't even have any problem. with what's happening and they are
[00:25:21] comfortable with the party, they're happy with the party, then you
[00:25:25] used, of course - going to do sentiment analysis based on what you hear on tv,
[00:25:29] you feel there's a huge
[00:25:30] mold in canal that you cannot even move. all right, so give a
[00:25:34] moment, we take a break everyone, but when we
[00:25:37] return, they say the APC is under
[00:25:40] intense pressure by his own policy, and the
[00:25:44] opposition is saying nigerians are suffering and
[00:25:47] angry. article believes that... is one
[00:25:51] unifying factor the voters and they will use this
[00:25:55] as a tool against the APC. the plans is to
[00:25:58] ensure that b and the APC does not have
[00:26:02] a place in the next election and I'll be asking the national chairman the
[00:26:06] APC, whether or not their party is in
[00:26:09] trouble and 2027 election is
[00:26:13] going to be a problem for them, we'll be right back after the break everyone, join us
[00:26:17] again.
[00:26:34] Edo state witness progress in action. The ado
[00:26:38] state government cordially invites the general public to the
[00:26:42] official commissioning of brand new CNG buses and the
[00:26:46] empowerment of 5000 women to be performed
[00:26:50] by the first lady the federal republic of Nigeria. Her
[00:26:53] excellency, Senator Ulu Remy, teenable
[00:26:57] CON. Join us as we mark a significant
[00:27:00] milstone in modern transport. information women
[00:27:03] empowerment and the advancement of our dear state
[00:27:07] date is 15th October 2026, time is 9
[00:27:10] a.m. venue Garret Memorial Road Benin
[00:27:14] City, chief host his excellency Senator Monday
[00:27:18] Obebolo, executive governor of Edo state, welcome
[00:27:22] to new era of transportation in Edo state,
[00:27:25] announcer
[00:27:27] at those state
[00:27:27] government.