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[00:00:00] to travel to the moon, there was like a lottery, he wanted to be,
[00:00:04] he wanted to be in everything, everything, well, in the note he gives Facundo that we passed a
[00:00:07] while ago to the channel director, he says one has an age for
[00:00:11] his projects, so for him having projects was being
[00:00:15] alive, yes, look, I wrote a note a while ago
[00:00:19] for him and I say the best medicine Chiche
[00:00:22] had was work, and it was that, having a
[00:00:25] project, having a prize, having something to tell the next
[00:00:28] day, notice that we lived across from each other for many
[00:00:32] years and we shared the same supermarket,
[00:00:36] so, eh, he would tell me go, there's a two-for-one on such
[00:00:39] and such a product and when it was my turn, I would tell him look, such
[00:00:43] and such is on sale, that is, notice that he
[00:00:49] people ask for, I mean, all of generating entertainment, which I think is what was also attentive to this daily domestic issue.
[00:00:52] Eh, that paints a picture for people to understand that people are not like
[00:00:56] they see on TV, an untouchable being.
[00:01:00] Chiche was sick, Chiche had problems, and Chiche also lived the same
[00:01:04] as all of us, his obsession with prices, his concern for
[00:01:07] the economy, remember that he fought against the prepared so that
[00:01:11] prices would not increase and we won, we won that injunction, that is,
[00:01:14] he was just one more, equal to
[00:01:17] the people, he understood that, that's why he interpreted
[00:01:21] what interested people so much, the audience and
[00:01:24] they always gave him credit, regarding prices and the most
[00:01:28] basic things, like milk, it was kind of traditional
[00:01:32] of him, eh, he was how he
[00:01:35] was very attentive to what everyday
[00:01:37] life was like, right? How much the
[00:01:41] he was the one who best mixed journalism with bus ticket cost, that is, the train ticket, and you, as a journalist, it happened
[00:01:45] to me, eh, you had to know everything, that is, if he asked you a
[00:01:49] question, you had to know it, you couldn't
[00:01:51] fail, I think that's what one can rescue
[00:01:54] from his professionalism, right? You see that
[00:01:58] he also told the interviewees, yes, where
[00:02:01] did you buy these clothes, live, eh, you changed your
[00:02:04] hairstyle, tell me how you styled your hair, those kinds of questions
[00:02:08] that might not seem like pure journalistic
[00:02:25] insight, yes, I think what you say resonates with me because I think
[00:02:29] he was always building a bridge with the person on the other side,
[00:02:32] thinking what they might be thinking or even
[00:02:35] creating an atmosphere in an interview that might be a bit
[00:02:39] tedious, perhaps, but entering and exiting with daily
[00:02:42] life, I think he was a master of television atmospheres,
[00:02:46] besides, at a given moment he would ask the precise question, the million-dollar
[00:02:50] question, always those interviews that a
[00:02:53] fragment was a scoop, was a headline, that only
[00:02:57] comes from the experience of years of
[00:03:00] this profession, right, this of someone who observes reality
[00:03:03] as a big issue, not
[00:03:06] like the news of the
[00:03:09] to get rid of subsidies, do you day always going a little further, well, in the meantime we are
[00:03:12] seeing many people who are approaching
[00:03:16] in Villacrespo, Rodo is there, give us a minute,
[00:03:20] okay, in Rodo we were passing by and saw many
[00:03:24] friends, many family members, many people from the media, people who love
[00:03:27] him.
[00:03:32] Of course, it's always impactful, because it's the Exactly, Sofi, those are the words and the tone because
[00:03:34] both Chiche and his family, but especially
[00:03:37] friends, people from the media, Marta González is entering,
[00:03:41] Matías, you who were a protagonist of history and news yes, she entered a little while
[00:03:44] ago, just
[00:03:48] eh she entered without being asked for documentation or
[00:03:51] anything, Marta entered directly, now she is
[00:03:54] there with the
[00:03:56] family.
[00:04:00] for every friend,
[00:04:02] colleague, anyone who wants to say a final farewell, we are
[00:04:07] Tuesday 50% discount on here at Loyola 100,
[00:04:09] after that time, the funeral procession
[00:04:13] will go to the cemetery of La
[00:04:17] Tablada, in the municipality of La Matanza, to
[00:04:20] cross into the province of Buenos Aires, there
[00:04:24] Chiche will be resting, no need
[00:04:27] to say Helblum, it's just Chiche. that are also
[00:04:31] arriving, many
[00:04:34] flowers, many flowers are also arriving
[00:04:37] here, people who are not from the
[00:04:40] media are also entering, yes, to say their
[00:04:44] last goodbye, for those people who want to enter
[00:04:48] they are 10, 15 minutes entering here at the
[00:04:51] place and then they leave through another
[00:04:54] door,
[00:04:57] I insist with this, the hearse has also entered...
[00:05:00] that will transport Chiche, it just entered
[00:05:04] through one of the side doors, one of the doors that this
[00:05:07] funeral home has here in the Villacrespo
[00:05:11] have adolescence, do neighborhood, it has already entered. So for anyone, I insist with this,
[00:05:14] who wants to say a final goodbye to Chiche, until
[00:05:18] 3 PM that time will be respected
[00:05:22] to say goodbye to Chiche, the great and beloved Chiche,
[00:05:25] here at Lora 100. Rodo, you just mentioned Marta
[00:05:29] González, the actress, right? And she was the wife of another
[00:05:33] Chiche Sosa, right?
[00:05:36] He interviewed her many times, many
[00:05:39] times, Chiche interviewed her many times.
[00:05:45] very well to Marta after she was widowed, because there was an important relationship between them, of course, so
[00:05:49] there was also a personal story between the two of them, Chiche, wife of Chiche Sosa, remember who
[00:05:53] that was, of course, Marta González, who was Chiche Sosa,
[00:05:57] Chiche Sosa was, well, a renowned footballer and then
[00:06:00] a football coach, very renowned,
[00:06:03] he died, of course, in 2020, a few years ago, eh,
[00:06:06] Matías Bañato, you know who
[00:06:10] that survivor of the Flores massacre is, do you
[00:06:14] remember that businessman who decided to set
[00:06:17] fire to his former partner, his entire family?
[00:06:22] There he is, Matías is on the line, but Rodo, what
[00:06:26] is happening? We'll go with Mati in a moment, Rodo, there's
[00:06:28] movement. Yes, you know
[00:06:32] that we are attentive to this movement
[00:06:35] because it seems that it
[00:06:38] has moved up, yes, everyone is leaving.
[00:06:42] Uh.
[00:06:46] Of course, because all these people who were here
[00:06:49] inside with Chiche, eh, they just opened the
[00:06:53] door, everyone is leaving. Of course, I'm now on
[00:06:56] air, so maybe Rodo wants to cross, I'd like to
[00:06:59] cross, wait a minute, I'm going to cross to ask
[00:07:20] watching the post you made on
[00:07:23] Instagram. It says "Today Chiche left and with him goes a part of a story that
[00:07:27] we shared for more than 30 years. He interviewed me for the first time
[00:07:30] when I was just 16, after what had happened at my house. Since
[00:07:34] that moment, our lives crossed again and again." Eh, why did they cross
[00:07:37] again and again, beyond the journalistic aspect, did you have contact
[00:07:41] with him? Yes, he was the first to go beyond his
[00:07:45] role as a journalist, he was one of those few journalists
[00:07:48] who, beyond his work, as I say, was
[00:07:52] very, very supportive of me throughout these 30 years
[00:07:55] that, well, he never left me alone, he was always
[00:07:59] aware of my situation, eh, and I
[00:08:03] remember, well, every interview he finished with me, he would always
[00:08:06] hug me and tell me, "Mati, you have to keep living, I want to see you
[00:08:10] happy." He was a great , a great man, guys, in every aspect,
[00:08:14] and, and I think , well, as I say, beyond
[00:08:17] his journalistic work, how he was as a human being
[00:08:21] with me, right, during these more than 30 years. I saw him the last
[00:08:25] time a short while ago, about six months ago, when he interviewed me for the last
[00:08:29] time there on
[00:08:54] for us too, well, to have had
[00:08:57] someone who accompanied you and gave you words of encouragement
[00:09:00] throughout all this time, someone important like Chiche Hellbloom,
[00:09:03] besides, I imagine it was
[00:09:10] in high regard, like many other journalists too. But well,
[00:09:13] you know better than I do, as I often say, it's not
[00:09:16] common for journalists to follow a case
[00:09:20] for 30 years, no, eh, you saw
[00:09:23] that unfortunately, well, one case covers another, I often say, it's not
[00:09:26] common for journalists to follow a case
[00:09:30] for 30 years, no, eh, you saw
[00:09:33] that unfortunately, well, one case covers another, yes, and
[00:09:36] well, journalists like Chiche, I think , well, at least in my
[00:09:40] story, yes, they left that indelible
[00:09:43] mark because beyond the news, of getting the
[00:09:46] news, many times it was that call to see how I was doing, eh,
[00:09:50] to see how I was doing, how my grandmother was doing,
[00:09:54] so, nothing, that's why, beyond his role
[00:09:58] that obviously everyone highlights, that he was a master and what he was
[00:10:02] as a journalist, well, until the last moment he was doing what he loved
[00:10:05] most, eh, I do want to highlight what he was as a human being,
[00:10:09] right, that commitment he had with me, those
[00:10:12] that support, obviously, I don't need
[00:10:16] to say it, right, but imagine, at 16 years old, what it was like for me in that context,
[00:10:20] after what had happened to me, having to face the cameras and everything, and
[00:10:24] he was so supportive, eh, that I don't forget
[00:10:27] those things about him or about Funny Vandelbon,
[00:10:31] there were so many journalists from that time who, beyond
[00:10:35] the work they had to do,
[00:10:38] were so human with me that they left an indelible
[00:10:42] mark on me, not to mention how he talks about Chiche's journalism,
[00:10:46] right? That's good to have
[00:10:49] during all those years a, a
[00:10:53] mention to continue. interviews so as not to let go of your case, the
[00:10:57] truth is a super important and super
[00:11:00] interesting story to have shared these minutes with you, Matías, thank you
[00:11:03] very much, no, you, a big kiss and a kiss to the whole
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[00:12:57] So many friends, so many colleagues on the other side, on a very difficult day for the whole
[00:13:01] Crónica family, we are with Tartu, thank you for being on the other
[00:13:16] truth is it's very hard to be at the
[00:13:19] last farewell to Chiche and we want
[00:13:22] to remember him as he would have liked. As he deserves
[00:13:26] to be, Tartu, who knows how he would have liked,
[00:13:30] right, such a creative guy, what do I know, I think he also would have liked us to remember
[00:13:34] him with a smile, to remember him positively, creative,
[00:13:37] you know he had this thing he would say no one speaks ill of me, well of me, sorry, like this
[00:13:41] thing that he lacked this thing of prestige, you know, but well, nothing, people
[00:13:45] obviously weren't looking for him from the prestige side, but from the
[00:13:49] everyday side, and this thing he always conveyed, the
[00:13:53] intuition, right, the journalistic intuition he had, well, you as a
[00:13:56] channel that has the pulse of what's popular know that perfectly well, and
[00:14:00] Chiche had that, he knew exactly what was happening to people and was always
[00:14:03] concerned about that, right, about pocket economics, what was happening to people,
[00:14:07] what was inside a sausage, how much the bus cost, you know he asked Miley
[00:14:11] how much a kilo of meat cost or how much the bus cost or he asked
[00:14:15] Cristina if she did her own makeup, these are the things people ask themselves at
[00:14:18] home, I think that's a great value he had, you know, you saw
[00:14:22] Tartu that in journalism, you also have the
[00:14:25] purists, right, the, the
[00:14:28] , the ones who think that what some do
[00:14:31] is trash, it happened to Chiche, they called him
[00:14:34] yellow journalist, it happened with this channel that said no,
[00:14:38] look at Crónica, look at what they put, today what Chiche did
[00:14:42] everyone does and what Crónica does
[00:14:46] everyone does on the super channels, I mean, it
[00:14:50] set a trend, Chiche, in his way of doing
[00:14:52] journalism, no doubt. That's why I think we shouldn't
[00:14:56] care about the opinion of other colleagues and friends, it's all
[00:14:59] good, they stand on a pulpit or whatever and point with their
[00:15:03] finger, but we all do the same, deep down
[00:15:06] one works on this too, I do gossip and I think deep down
[00:15:10] too, you know, as we discussed with Chiche, everything was gossip, because if, let's see,
[00:15:14] if Mariano Clock, who is on a prestigious screen, tells you, it
[00:15:17] seems to me that Enner Valencia is playing, what he is saying is also gossip, he is not
[00:15:21] giving information, well Chiche understood this clearly. Clearly, and
[00:15:25] he always had, I repeat, he had the pulse of the popular, he knew what
[00:15:29] was happening to people and smelled in the air what was to come,
[00:15:33] well, besides being a journalist he had this of being a producer too.
[00:15:37] to think what he could do and where to find
[00:15:41] material to put on air, I think that was also
[00:15:44] something special about Chiche, different from
[00:15:47] everyone. Yes, yes, well, I think we also had the
[00:15:51] luck, well, Pampa is also from the graphic industry, so this
[00:15:54] history that those of us who come from the graphic industry have a different
[00:15:57] background, it's true, so you start to connect differently
[00:16:01] and you see how you can formulate, in this case, for
[00:16:04] television, which I think is where
[00:16:38] post on X and that anecdote about
[00:16:42] the environment that I would like you to recall here because the truth
[00:16:50] Chiche told me, we were, Chiche
[00:16:53] was affiliated with the Argentine Communist Party, he had the mythical PC card and
[00:16:57] so on, from that, a conversation arises in which
[00:17:01] he, he worked at Ámbito Financiero, Julio Ramos takes him to
[00:17:05] Ámbito Financiero and gives him a newspaper within the newspaper
[00:17:08] because there he basically did general information and society,
[00:17:12] but basically it was like another newspaper that was not Ámbito Financiero because
[00:17:16] Ámbito Financiero, you know, was dedicated to finance, markets and so on, and
[00:17:19] it was clear, but there it was good because, I repeat, there
[00:17:23] he worked on people's pocket economy, so he would say, well, people can afford
[00:17:26] this, they can't afford the other, or for example, just to say something, why
[00:17:30] is Las Leñas more expensive than going for a week in
[00:17:39] much more repercussion outside the financial market,
[00:17:43] as Chiche was already doing well in radio and television, he tells Julio Ramos, look,
[00:17:46] I'm resigning, no, you can't resign, no, I'm serious, I'm resigning,
[00:17:49] Julio Ramos thought it was about money, so he doubles Chiche's
[00:17:53] salary, Chiche says you don't understand, it's not about money, I'm leaving because I already have radio,
[00:17:57] television, I can't do more, I'm leaving, this and that, Julio Ramos tells him:
[00:18:00] "Well, you'll come back here, so I'm going to keep your desk and I'm going
[00:18:04] to deposit your salary every month," he didn't care about this or that,
[00:18:08] and he saw that they started to deposit his salary every month,
[00:18:11] and Chiche, instead of keeping that money, he
[00:18:15] routinely donated his salary to various
[00:18:18] charities, for example, he would donate
[00:18:21] $1000 ,
[00:18:25] $1000 to the Salvation Army, and so
[00:18:28] on, every month, and when that
[00:18:31] stopped, he didn't want to appear as if that money was
[00:18:35] coming from above, so he started donating his own money, he started
[00:18:39] donating his time too, he would go to charities in the morning to
[00:18:43] donate blood, he would do anything
[00:18:46] remember when it was optional, he was one of the first people
[00:18:50] to get rid of subsidies, there were only 20,000 in total in the
[00:19:00] because the truth is it's a
[00:19:03] all of us, Presto also came to the
[00:19:13] him many, many times, yes, thank you very much, guys, well, first I want to say,
[00:19:17] I don't know, I don't know if I'm even up to saying a few farewell words
[00:19:21] to Chiche, the only thing
[00:19:24] I will say first is, I
[00:19:28] admired him very much, for me to enter Crónica and be able to see
[00:19:31] him was a lot, and I'm not
[00:19:35] getting emotional as a camera act, but because for those of us from the
[00:19:38] interior who grew up with the anecdotes these
[00:20:06] and took care of him,
[00:20:09] I also want to say that now when I leave, he'll surely
[00:20:11] curse me out, but Facundo Pedrini took care of Chiche
[00:20:15] like a son and supported him and the whole Crónica family,
[00:20:19] I hated all media my life
[00:20:22] and the only channel I wanted to go to was Crónica because Chiche
[00:20:26] was there and the first time I came, in one
[00:20:30] of the breaks, he told me, excuse me, I'm going to imitate him but not disrespectfully
[00:20:33] but with the tone he used, he said:
[00:20:38] "You're old, you didn't have a childhood," I told him
[00:20:41] how, you do it well, Presto, "You're old, you didn't have
[00:20:45] a childhood, the same as me, you didn't
[00:20:49] people bore you?" young and I
[00:20:51] said yes, it's true, the same thing happened to me and
[00:20:54] when I started on Crónica he told me not to listen to anyone,
[00:20:58] do your own thing, they called you for a reason, they'll start telling you what
[00:21:02] to do, nobody knows anything here.
[00:21:05] And for me it was a fantastic thing, today morning
[00:21:08] I woke up to Facundo's message, Chiche
[00:21:12] had passed away a while ago, I went to take him
[00:21:15] flowers and I greeted his wife,
[00:21:19] I learned from this, it's not a set phrase, what love
[00:21:22] is, when I saw Chiche's
[00:21:25] wife, every time I came here, she was
[00:21:29] there behind him all the time,
[00:21:32] taking care of him, accompanying him, and then
[00:21:35] talking to people from the media, they told me, Presto, that was always the case, she was always
[00:21:39] behind him, and on Sunday I hugged her tightly and hugged
[00:21:43] him very tightly, and today I went to take him flowers, I wanted to leave him
[00:21:47] some red carnations because as a good communist,
[00:21:50] a man of struggle, a different kind of communism, not
[00:21:54] the crazy people we see shouting, a well-
[00:21:58] educated man, I left him some roses and gave
[00:22:01] his wife a huge hug
[00:22:20] Buenos Aires feels lonelier when these kinds of people are gone, Gordo
[00:22:23] Soriano, Chiche Hellblom, La
[00:22:26] Nata, people who give color, not
[00:22:39] who for years
[00:22:41] bastardized Chiche's work, now they will have
[00:22:45] to shut up before
[00:22:48] a legend, those who accused him of making covers that he
[00:22:52] didn't make and that it's time to say so, he didn't make the Balvin
[00:22:56] cover, because when I was watching here on Uber, a
[00:22:59] pseudo-journalist was saying no, well, but we also have to remember the Balvin cover,
[00:23:03] Chiche Helblum did not make the Balvin cover in Gente magazine,
[00:23:06] unfortunately men and women like
[00:23:10] Blacky, like Chiche Helblum,
[00:23:13] Magdalena die and imbeciles remain in front of
[00:23:16] microphones who don't read and don't study.
[00:23:20] Crónica is the people's channel, well Chiche, Chiche is
[00:23:24] the people, thank you Chiche, eternal, and as he used to say, if you have
[00:23:27] dignity, resign,
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[00:25:53] a colleague of the
[00:25:55] channel and he was always
[00:25:59] so respectful I'm going to tell you something very small that
[00:26:03] was in the private sphere when he was making
[00:26:06] a memory, I told him one day, thank you
[00:26:10] Chiche for being so respectful to
[00:26:20] told me, "They are all idiots, these intellectuals, the
[00:26:23] journalism that sells the most is sports and entertainment, those
[00:26:27] who discriminate against you are all idiots,
[00:26:30] envious." And that, that stayed with me, a man of
[00:26:34] journalism
[00:26:38] brutal, besides with a wit that few journalists,
[00:26:42] think that he entered television at 50 years old, when
[00:26:45] many already have 25 or 30 years of
[00:26:49] television, he started and revolutionized, what do you highlight about
[00:26:53] Chiche, so many years on television, you, looking at him from the other side,
[00:26:56] you must have also criticized him for better or worse, but what do you highlight about Chiche? No, what
[00:27:00] I highlight is his creativity, his
[00:27:02] popularity that he
[00:27:06] always had to do
[00:27:37] days, she will
[00:27:38] tell you,
[00:27:43] the show, no doubt about it, no doubt about it, along with
[00:27:56] I was with him was at Crónica, he
[00:28:01] managed everything. And he
[00:28:20] until last year that he was
[00:28:23] on Saturdays, I sometimes went to visit him before
[00:28:27] he went on air because he was already at the channel
[00:28:31] and he was always very happy
[00:29:02] to find out if the
[00:29:11] several farewells here,
[00:29:14] like two or three rooms,
[00:29:17] ah, that was it, the original
[00:29:21] schedule is respected,
[00:29:23] I will insist with this until 3 PM, the
[00:29:27] funeral of Chiche will be
[00:29:30] here at the bar
[00:29:33] Eh Rodo, we'll be back soon to the Villa Crespo area where
[00:29:37] relatives and friends are saying goodbye
[00:29:40] to Chiche G, a small break, a short
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