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[00:00:34] already over and he
[00:00:39] those are those are stories from
[00:01:00] he was here throughout the morning and then when he was a little
[00:01:03] worse in health, he started working on Sundays for the weekend with our
[00:01:07] colleague, Carlitos Stroker and Faku Pedrini,
[00:01:11] our news manager, who was
[00:01:14] also like a son to Chiche, bids him farewell
[00:01:17] with a letter and we want
[00:01:20] to share it with all of you. It says: Man of exclusives, cover man,
[00:01:23] record man, man of intuition, bearer of the license of intuition,
[00:01:27] definitive sting of reality of the last 50 years. He was
[00:01:30] popular, he was massive, he was a meme, he used the lie
[00:01:34] detector against eternity and he got the
[00:01:37] last question. He was "Crónica" before
[00:01:40] Crónica, a postgraduate in social journalism that ends in him, but not with
[00:01:44] him, because missions transcend myths. They admitted him
[00:01:47] 20 times, they declared him dead 21 times.
[00:01:51] He created presidents, he overthrew presidents, he performed a live autopsy on an extraterrestrial
[00:01:55] and five interviews with Miley. To Lolos he left him in silence, to Cristina he
[00:01:59] asked if she had any (children). Obviously, when she still dressed in black,
[00:02:02] because yes, because he could, owner of all the faults of that old
[00:02:06] journalism that still doubts like a child, he was the one who best decoded
[00:02:10] Argentina with the distance between the widows and the miracle. He asked, questioned, exposed, something
[00:02:14] that AI or
[00:02:17] precariousness doesn't do. His mind lasted longer than his
[00:02:20] body, like the wristwatches of soldiers who
[00:02:23] continue to live on the wrists of the executed.
[00:02:26] Wow, what a beautiful letter, uh, from Pedrini. How nice, how nice what
[00:02:30] he wrote, let's see, we have a little more, I don't think it ended
[00:02:33] there. Do
[00:02:36] we bought the rights to you want to continue Meli, so I don't read it all myself, come on, "I want to die on
[00:02:39] camera," he told me the first time he was hospitalized. There is
[00:02:43] something between endings and death, and those are the
[00:02:45] questions. Chiche had everything. He visited
[00:02:49] more specialists than a social security card could
[00:02:52] print. He had more hospitalizations than programs in the
[00:02:55] year, for a urinary infection, for cardiac arrest, for
[00:02:58] a foot infarction, for an uncontrolled thrombosis that blocked
[00:03:02] a couple of arteries, for high fever, for
[00:03:05] precaution, just in case, and because the best
[00:03:08] times fade away in installments. When they received him the
[00:03:12] last time, he couldn't speak or stand. "I'm going
[00:03:15] to escape through the window, I need to come back," he told me the last time
[00:03:19] they held him, and the camera, the bed, sorry, is never an
[00:03:23] option for hunters. Chiche
[00:03:27] loving grandfather, I think that in only breathed when he was chasing
[00:03:29] the, Tincho, you must know this, in Argentina. What beautiful words from...
[00:03:38] but that phrase about wanting to die on camera was literal. Let's see a little more because there's a lot of
[00:03:42] Chiche's history that Facundo knows very well. Chiche fell several
[00:03:46] times and never collapsed. What mattered most to him was
[00:03:49] outside himself, and just as danger brings out
[00:03:53] the worst in the world but the best in
[00:03:57] with popular news of Messi's retirement. At the closing of the shops
[00:04:01] on Abellaneda street. In the last 45 days, Chiche's body
[00:04:05] was a bingo full of doctors playing several cards at
[00:04:08] once, like terminal widows waiting for the
[00:04:11] ball machine to stop in time. They
[00:04:14] made him sign a consent form so that his
[00:04:18] death would be his fault, and they discharged him. He came back in
[00:04:21] a wheelchair to cover a World Cup, he shouted voiceless
[00:04:25] and with his fist in the air for the goals against England and asked to travel to the
[00:04:28] final. To sign a declaration of responsibility and get on
[00:04:32] a plane to tell the story. Chiche only walked
[00:04:35] through his plans, he fantasized about the crutches that time
[00:04:39] was taking away from him, but he had everything planned and two suitcases packed, summer
[00:04:42] pajamas, a pair of suspenders, a cocktail of
[00:04:45] pills for his blood pressure and a fourth star exploding in
[00:04:49] his heart. The distance between him and death was always measured in ideas and
[00:04:53] the risk existed for him, for him to
[00:04:56] pursue it, sorry, Chiche was not just an praise of danger, he was also
[00:05:00] a generational provocation, the revenge of the elders of the
[00:05:04] Pig War, he covered all the best
[00:05:07] that young people lived, from young people, sorry, and lived in the
[00:05:10] shadow of the sacred, there is no... to throw away the poor, nor the immigrant,
[00:05:14] nor the refugee, nor the elderly, Francisco
[00:05:17] said, to discard is to lose
[00:05:20] your soul and lose a story, what beautiful words,
[00:05:24] not the day Argentina played the final, he was here
[00:05:27] recounting, we were with Carlitos Stroker, Chiche who was very
[00:05:30] weakened, he would fall asleep, he would fall
[00:05:34] asleep for for for fractions of a second, that happens to old
[00:05:38] people when they are no longer oxygenating well and they fall asleep, but to me.
[00:05:42] I want to tell you something that impressed
[00:05:46] me, that even moved me because it reminded me of my grandparents. I
[00:05:50] would poke Carlitos like this and Carlitos would touch him, excuse me, he would
[00:05:54] touch his leg here a little bit, his knee, to wake him up and
[00:05:57] Chiche would wake up, open his eyes and connect with what was
[00:06:01] happening, even if he had fallen asleep, maybe he had slept for two minutes, but
[00:06:05] he knew he was on air, you understand, that is, he had that nonchalance of
[00:06:09] even letting himself fall asleep while on air,
[00:06:11] you understand that... something that one would not
[00:06:14] do at all. His mind was very young, his mind was very
[00:06:18] young, very vital, very plugged in, very
[00:06:21] eager. The issue of the body not responding
[00:06:24] complicates things a lot for people with so much mental vitality.
[00:06:28] To conclude, Chiche was something
[00:06:31] that society will continue to ask for, the security that old people
[00:06:34] provide, remembering from where so that the
[00:06:38] bomb explodes in our memory, Chiche was a
[00:06:41] certainty. And the predictability that Argentina
[00:06:44] lost. What Chiche decided to tell will forever be the place
[00:06:48] from which he chose to fight and a curfew on media logic,
[00:06:52] showing that a journalist is not only
[00:06:55] born, but also dies.
[00:06:58] Martin, let's read a little of what people
[00:07:01] are writing to us from home via WhatsApp, go ahead, yes, many
[00:07:04] messages are arriving from people, well, we lost an unmatched master, may he rest in
[00:07:08] peace, may he rest in peace,
[00:07:11] Chiche, I always saw him.
[00:08:12] who have just left the funeral home, Nancy
[00:08:15] pasos, among others, was there for
[00:08:18] about half an hour saying goodbye to
[00:08:21] Chiche, so we are with this image, there is already a significant police
[00:08:25] operation on Loyola, because
[00:08:28] in 5 minutes at most the
[00:08:31] hearse will be leaving. Another thing I remember is that
[00:08:35] Chiche would cross your path and out of nowhere he would ask you, "Are you in a relationship,
[00:08:38] girl? Are you married? Are you dating?" But he wouldn't
[00:08:42] even say hello. It
[00:08:44] made me laugh because it was like he went straight to the point, and that's what
[00:08:48] great people do, they don't ask for permission, they don't ask for permission, great people don't ask for permission, they
[00:08:52] ask what everyone wants to ask, a bit like Rulo, I
[00:08:55] remember many of the conversations we sometimes have when we leave here, "Go ahead and ask
[00:08:59] directly, ask plainly." That's how Chiche was, and he would understand
[00:09:03] and Javier Miré the same, that many
[00:09:06] had dared to interview him but in reality they didn't
[00:09:09] ask him, nobody asked him, he asked. He asked and left him offside and
[00:09:13] that's why he didn't give him any more interviews and they asked him the next day, they
[00:09:16] asked Chiche, "Chiche, do you think Javier Miley will give you another interview?"
[00:09:20] "No, it's impossible that he likes me because he asked him, I think, the price of the
[00:09:24] minimum pension that Javier didn't know, the president didn't, and
[00:09:27] and also very plain things in
[00:09:31] terms of collaborating with others, I mean, he helped without telling that he did
[00:09:34] it, and I was just remembering, I didn't
[00:09:38] remember it, but it was at a time when I lost my job and I remember that among
[00:09:42] so many people I called, I called him, he was constantly
[00:09:46] attentive to see if something happened so that I could
[00:09:49] rejoin, reinsert myself and so on, he was super attentive with me
[00:09:53] and he was always there, attentive to calling me or writing to me or for me to
[00:09:57] call him and he would answer, yes, little fox let's see, we're with you,
[00:10:00] what's happening there at the
[00:10:02] door?
[00:10:04] Yes, Rulo, because at the door there are many relatives,
[00:10:08] friends, and also fans of Chiche who come to... to
[00:10:12] say their last goodbyes, and a lot of traffic is forming because
[00:10:17] what is Darwin street is cut off to traffic here,
[00:10:21] too many vehicles are gathering, which is also
[00:10:25] slowing down the
[00:10:27] departure of the hearse, but look at that
[00:10:31] image, family, friends and fans who are
[00:10:35] waiting for that moment, Rulo, look at
[00:10:38] all the people who are going to say goodbye to Chiche, the truth is that he worked with everyone,
[00:10:42] Chiche uh, I think he had nothing
[00:10:45] left to do in his career as a journalist, he was a war
[00:10:49] correspondent, he covered the Six-Day War in Israel, he covered the war
[00:10:53] in Ukraine, uh. He also covered
[00:10:57] another conflict, I can't remember now, but he wanted to be
[00:11:01] there on the ground, that's why he was so
[00:11:03] demanding.
[00:11:06] Uh
[00:11:09] yes, let's remember the interview he did with Cristina, uh,
[00:11:13] now when they have it ready of course, but it's interesting to see
[00:11:16] also that interview he did with Cristina the questions he
[00:11:19] asked, Chiche was always very
[00:11:23] direct when asking.
[00:11:31] Let's watch the interview with Cristina, go ahead, you shout,
[00:11:34] no, it depends, you don't shout, you don't insult, bad
[00:11:38] words, yes, I mean, the truth is that I wouldn't be I'm very foul-
[00:11:41] mouthed.
[00:11:43] to people.
[00:11:46] No, I'm not, I'm yes, I use bad
[00:11:48] words, my character is a character that has always been a
[00:11:52] strong, fiery character. Yes, that's a good
[00:11:56] definition, a fiery character. I'm very foul-
[00:11:59] mouthed, that's a flaw that Néstor always criticized me for because he didn't use bad words
[00:12:02] and I am very foul- mouthed, well, you must have realized by now, the thing is that I don't use
[00:12:06] bad words on camera, only on the phone I use bad words,
[00:12:09] yes, I'm already calm, you must have already found out by
[00:12:12] phone, of course I use bad words on the phone, but well,
[00:12:16] that's fine, let's say, it's human, that, but do you recognize that as a flaw, something that
[00:12:20] you would like to improve in your personality, you're still in time, you're
[00:12:23] a young woman, eh, and yes, I've improved it quite a bit, I used to
[00:12:27] get angrier
[00:12:29] uh, no, no, I've improved it, but not
[00:12:33] everything, not everything I would like, sometimes I get the "chiripioca" as I
[00:12:37] say, and well, but taking into account everything you've
[00:12:40] done and let's say you reached the highest
[00:12:44] peaks of power twice, not of power
[00:12:47] but of government, the government, well, but
[00:12:51] let's say, the president has the sum of power, no, on the contrary,
[00:12:55] Chiche, the sum of power is prohibited by the constitution, the
[00:12:59] sum of
[00:12:59] power.
[00:13:04] Let's go live and direct with Jessica who is at the Tablada cemetery. Jessi, are you on
[00:13:08] air?
[00:13:13] Jessica, welcome, unbeatable on Crónica, now, now, now,
[00:13:17] yes, we hear you, go ahead, good afternoon Rulo, that's right, excuse me, we are here in the western
[00:13:21] area of the province of Buenos Aires, in front of the Israeli cemetery where we are
[00:13:25] waiting for the arrival of the funeral procession of none
[00:13:28] other than Chiche Gelblung, the great journalist of the
[00:13:31] channel, also family members, colleagues, and friends who will be arriving. Little by little, some
[00:13:35] neighbors are starting to show up here precisely because all the media
[00:13:38] are working here in front of the cemetery. The entrance of the
[00:13:42] funeral procession will be on Donovan Street, which from
[00:13:46] here, at least 800 meters inwards, is the information we
[00:13:49] have, they will be transferring Chiche's remains.
[00:13:53] Gelblung, according to. also, minutes before
[00:13:57] the burial, since it is a
[00:14:00] religious cemetery, a Jewish
[00:14:02] cemetery, there is a religious ceremony that is
[00:14:06] performed moments before lowering the coffin, which is not,
[00:14:09] before the body is washed, no, the body is washed,
[00:14:13] sections of the clothes of children and of the
[00:14:16] widow are cut,
[00:14:18] clothes are torn because that is the sign that life at some point
[00:14:22] breaks when a loved one passes away. You know that religious
[00:14:26] ceremonies do not construct the tombstone at that very
[00:14:30] moment, but a year must pass to be
[00:14:32] able to leave one there, the processions are leaving, there it is,
[00:14:36] we are live and direct, of course, Crónica will accompany
[00:14:40] Chiche's remains from the wake
[00:14:43] to the Tablada Cemetery. Little fox, it's all
[00:14:46] yours. Yes, Rulo, the hearse
[00:14:50] leaves, people start to give a great
[00:14:53] applause to the master. Master, colleague, unique
[00:14:57] friend, Chiche Gelblung, who will be
[00:15:00] transferred to the Jewish cemetery of
[00:15:03] Tablada. This is how the
[00:15:06] wake, which began at 10:30 in the morning,
[00:15:09] ends, with all the family, with Cristina, Federico,
[00:15:12] Magdalena and María, his children, and in this way
[00:15:16] they transfer Chiche Gelblung,
[00:15:20] a person who has left us much teaching,
[00:15:23] professionalism, thousands of anecdotes, as each one
[00:15:27] of us and the viewers remember him, and
[00:15:30] an impressive silence is being experienced
[00:15:33] in this place now, respect for Chiche, and again.
[00:15:36] An applause, there we
[00:15:39] are seeing
[00:15:43] Samuel, legend of Argentine
[00:15:46] journalism.
[00:15:49] Well, there we are seeing the images, of course, live,
[00:15:52] Crónica, will accompany
[00:15:54] Chiche's remains until the last minute,
[00:15:58] there we are seeing him leave, in
[00:16:00] that vehicle, which will surely go in
[00:16:04] an endless caravan, right? has a lot to do with what he
[00:16:37] left as a legacy for
[00:16:41] all of us who work in this medium, it was a great
[00:16:44] school, especially here on this channel, so many people who have spoken today, who
[00:16:47] have worked very, very closely, right? Yes, what a guy, that, what a hard
[00:16:51] worker, what an obsession he had for
[00:16:55] current events, for exposing power, for questioning, for not wanting to kiss anyone's
[00:16:59] ass, uh, I think he had the
[00:17:02] conviction of a journalist that few have left, journalists
[00:17:06] who are not afraid of power, who... don't want to be condescending, who are uncomfortable because
[00:17:09] they understand that's their function, right, and that he also had that
[00:17:13] conviction that he could have been friends with those people who
[00:17:17] later came to power, but once they came to power they stopped being his
[00:17:20] friends, if you were president you were no longer friends with Chiche
[00:17:24] because, or at least that wouldn't put him in the obligation to ask you what you
[00:17:28] wanted to hear, but he would actually ask what he wanted
[00:17:32] and what people wanted to hear, it didn't condition
[00:17:35] him, so to speak, no. also very, very
[00:17:39] impactful theme of that close bond with
[00:17:43] people not with
[00:17:48] the territory.
[00:17:51] Well, a rabbi accompanying the funeral procession, the AMIA
[00:17:54] car also providing transport to the
[00:17:57] funeral home, it was one of AMIA's funeral homes there on Loyola Street,
[00:18:00] exactly, and as I was telling you, the
[00:18:04] ceremony will also comply with the precepts. The
[00:18:08] Jewish faith and the moment of the last farewell to a
[00:18:11] Jewish person is a very moving moment that has many rituals,
[00:18:15] many steps, and the tombstone, the stone, is not
[00:18:19] placed at the moment the person dies, but a year
[00:18:23] must pass to be able to construct the memorial,
[00:18:26] no, because it is interpreted that a human being also needs to distance
[00:18:30] themselves from such a special
[00:18:33] event as when someone leaves for another plane, so only a year
[00:18:37] later do you return to the cemetery to
[00:18:39] inaugurate the tombstone that bears the name of the deceased person,
[00:18:43] surely there will also be loved ones there, I imagine his sister will be there, who
[00:18:46] was a very close person to him, who had passed away during the pandemic, during the
[00:18:50] pandemic, exactly, and who truly
[00:18:54] made him very, very sad, that departure, he loved his
[00:18:57] sister and he had three children, no, two women, he has three
[00:19:01] children, several grandchildren, a very
[00:19:06] the cover. of the phone, as they say, the image
[00:19:09] there is something that made his eyes sparkle, it was
[00:19:13] his grandchildren, he had them as his WhatsApp background photo, always
[00:19:17] calling them, being attentive, the truth is
[00:19:19] that it's an impressive moment, but also many messages are arriving from people who
[00:19:23] are saying goodbye here, uh, Chiche, eternal, you will never be forgotten, no one
[00:19:27] will ever be able to replace you, your legacy will be forever and
[00:19:30] always. Goodbye to Chiche, another great one who leaves us, may he rest in
[00:19:34] peace, always in our hearts, total
[00:19:38] sadness, we lost an eminence of TV, another very
[00:19:41] funny person left us, who when he watched us in each program, and well, now only the
[00:19:45] memory remains, I'm Francisco from Candelaria, Misiones, another
[00:19:48] thing Tincho, Chiche did a lot, almost like there was no difference between outside
[00:19:52] and inside the air, meaning if he was getting
[00:19:56] bored with a topic, he would cut you off like a potato
[00:19:59] on the topic even though he was, he didn't care, he wasn't
[00:20:03] very he had a unique nonchalance.
[00:20:08] He had for me, there a viewer who was saying goodbye to him, was talking about someone funny and I
[00:20:12] was remembering the first party of the Crónica
[00:20:16] group after the Olmos group after the pandemic, the first
[00:20:19] party, the first one to go out dancing and he was in the center
[00:20:23] of the dance floor dancing with his
[00:20:25] wife Cristina, of course, and all the people, all the others around
[00:20:29] him, accompanying him in that dance, very funny,
[00:20:32] yes, yes, uh, well, the last Martín Fierro
[00:20:35] also, uh, that...
[00:20:37] The truth is that Chiche had a hard time hearing, he had a
[00:20:41] hearing aid to hear better, but his voice was very difficult to
[00:20:45] understand what he was saying, but he put effort into it, that's what
[00:20:49] I mean, right? He was old and he still put effort into it, that's the truth, you have
[00:20:52] to have that strength, well, like Mirta, like
[00:20:56] Mirta, but it's comparable, no,
[00:21:00] no, a unique guy, I think, this wasn't an
[00:21:03] easy person, beware, because death seems to soften everyone's
[00:21:07] personalities, he wasn't an easy guy at all, but yes, I think he had
[00:21:10] a lot of character, but he was a very beloved person, and very
[00:21:13] respectful, and with his convictions well placed, I mean,
[00:21:16] he didn't pretend anything, uh, it's not that he
[00:21:20] made you believe he was one way and then you found out he wasn't, he didn't pretend anything,
[00:21:24] he was absolutely transparent in that, at least the
[00:21:27] times that I have had to, we have had to work with him and
[00:21:30] so on, you realized that he was very, very, very spontaneous and very
[00:21:34] transparent. Whenever I went on air, he always told me, "Stop, stop, slow
[00:21:37] down, calm, calm, calm." I start the
[00:21:41] mobile, I start, "Stop, stop, stop." Sure, he had
[00:21:44] everyone impatient, also super
[00:21:47] impatient, well, a lot of artists. It won't
[00:21:51] be, it's that, an empty space that will
[00:21:54] remain. Well, he
[00:21:57] had a somewhat
[00:22:00] questionable period with his role during the military dictatorship
[00:22:03] because there he had to be news manager
[00:22:07] at the magazine, yes, and well, he was questioned a bit for that, but
[00:22:11] well, the truth is that he was an eminence in journalism, I
[00:22:15] believe that all those who studied journalism, in some way, those who
[00:22:18] loved this profession, in some way sought to
[00:22:22] imitate some aspects where he left his mark, and he said
[00:22:25] no, there wasn't one, he would laugh a little when they told him
[00:22:28] he was the father of yellow journalism and he said there's no yellow journalism,
[00:22:32] no, journalism is all journalism, everything is journalism, clear,
[00:22:36] uh, we have Mr. Costi
[00:22:39] Vigil connected, former director and owner of
[00:22:43] Editorial Atlántida, welcome to Imbatibles on the
[00:22:47] Crónica screen.
[00:22:49] How are you, Rulo? Yes, nice to meet you, how are you,
[00:22:52] Costi, how are you, Rulo, Melina, I
[00:22:56] was watching you, I was following you, I
[00:22:59] just moved away from the TV so it wouldn't echo.
[00:23:03] Well, it's a sad
[00:23:06] day eh, but not of pain,
[00:23:10] yes, of recognition, yes, of
[00:23:12] memories, yes, anecdotes and
[00:23:16] stories will start pouring in, a greeting. And
[00:23:20] my condolences to Chiche's family, from
[00:23:24] all the Vigil family, from all the family of
[00:23:27] Aníbal and Constancio Vigil,
[00:23:30] I'm all ears, I'm following you and
[00:23:34] I don't know, I have a couple of funny stories, tell us
[00:23:37] one, tell us one to remember him at this
[00:23:41] moment of this legend of Argentine
[00:23:44] journalism.
[00:23:46] Uh, well, let's start. Because,
[00:23:50] well, a seasoned journalist,
[00:23:53] uh, he joined Gente in
[00:23:57] '66, uh, under the orders of
[00:24:00] Aníbal and Carlos Fontana Rosa, who founded Gente magazine
[00:24:04] in '65, and he was its editor between
[00:24:07] '75 and '81,
[00:24:10] uh, every great
[00:24:13] journalist of old,
[00:24:16] started with print and a...
[00:24:20] a versatile guy like Chiche, like so many
[00:24:23] others, when you handle print, it becomes very
[00:24:27] easy to handle radio and television, radio on Continental
[00:24:30] Radio, Radio 10, Mitre, Rivadavia and
[00:24:34] lately on del Plata, television, I remember by heart on Channel 9 and
[00:24:37] Polémica en el Bar, but well,
[00:24:40] I have two anecdotes, I don't know how much time I have, go ahead, go ahead,
[00:24:43] go ahead, tell us, I'll be quick, yes,
[00:24:47] go ahead. 1969,
[00:24:50] you weren't alive, I was young, very
[00:24:53] young, very young, this,
[00:24:57] I tell this because well, my elders told me and
[00:25:01] of course I read it later in the magazine, I was born in
[00:25:04] '63. Well, there's the feat of the
[00:25:07] Torinos in Nürburgring green, the 84 hours in the
[00:25:11] green hell, baptized thus by Jacky
[00:25:14] Stewart, three-time world champion, columnist
[00:25:17] for El Gráfico and personal friend of Fangio, they were
[00:25:20] the Torino 380
[00:25:23] W, three cars, number one, two, and three. Number
[00:25:27] three was the one that came in fourth
[00:25:31] place, it was the Argentine mission in Nürburgring, whose
[00:25:34] team manager was Juan Manuel Fangio, no
[00:25:38] less, the chief mechanic was Oreste
[00:25:41] Berta,
[00:25:44] drivers like Copello, de
[00:25:47] Palma, Perkins,
[00:25:52] and a certain Óscar Cacho Fangio
[00:25:55] who was listed as Fangio's nephew, who in the end
[00:25:57] is one of Fangio's
[00:26:01] children. Fangio recognized three
[00:26:04] children. Now, what happened with Chiche?
[00:26:08] Chiche was sent by Gente magazine, he was in
[00:26:11] Europe, he was in Europe, he was sent by
[00:26:15] Hannibal, and by Fontana Rosa
[00:26:18] to cover this
[00:26:21] story for people,
[00:26:24] uh, this Hannibal was in charge of the
[00:26:28] magazine, and and so
[00:26:31] Chiche arrived late, everything was
[00:26:37] wanted,
[00:26:41] that era, right? This, this where television
[00:26:45] was very poor, so Hannibal
[00:26:49] Vigil wanted to kill him, and
[00:26:52] he calls him, and he calls my father, Constancio, from El Gráfico
[00:26:55] and Constancio interceded with
[00:26:59] Juan Manuel Fangio.
[00:27:02] And the end, let's say, a little bit of this
[00:27:05] story is that Chiche
[00:27:08] on top of the Torino
[00:27:12] going around with Fangio all over the
[00:27:14] circuit, Fangio as a driver
[00:27:17] telling him every part of the
[00:27:20] circuit, telling him how the
[00:27:23] whole race went, result,
[00:27:27] Chiche did a fantastic
[00:27:30] story, as if he had been there,
[00:27:33] been there, as if he had been there, present in
[00:27:37] everything, how great he was, uh, and
[00:27:40] well, another one that I had to experience myself, you might have
[00:27:44] mentioned it, you've mentioned it a little in the program, but I experienced it
[00:27:48] myself, which was the Roswell alien, of course, that
[00:27:52] was crazy, no, no, no, we saw it here, we passed, uh,
[00:27:56] the story that aired, also incredibly all of
[00:27:59] us who are here in the studio remember seeing it live, that's
[00:28:03] not because there
[00:28:07] were few channels, not in 95
[00:28:10] 95
[00:28:12] 95 yes, 95, we were
[00:28:16] owners, the Vigil group was the owner of Telefe, of Channel
[00:28:19] 9, uh, this
[00:28:23] was broadcast in the program Memoria,
[00:28:27] uh, and I was still in charge of
[00:28:30] a scientific magazine called Conozca Más,
[00:28:34] clear, clear, so, so
[00:28:39] the alien autopsy,
[00:28:41] it's unbelievable, so
[00:28:45] so, so clear,
[00:28:48] we did synergies and we published it in
[00:28:51] the magazine with a video, a videocassette from that era, it was the
[00:28:55] era of videocassettes, and Chiche took
[00:28:57] over the topic. We did synergy, we published
[00:29:01] it in Memoria, everything was a success, a craze,
[00:29:05] it bounced everywhere, with specialists
[00:29:08] who brought to television talking
[00:29:12] about the topic of extraterrestrial life, of
[00:29:15] ufology, and,
[00:29:18] uh, I even think
[00:29:21] I was getting, if I remember correctly, images of the
[00:29:25] original video with a
[00:29:28] supposed autopsy that they did to the
[00:29:32] doll on the floor of the camera, a doll, incredible,
[00:29:36] no, the truth is that he has left impressive
[00:29:39] anecdotes, Scotti, uh, well, Meli, you continue
[00:29:42] but thank you very much,
[00:29:44] well, and and no, and and to say
[00:29:48] that the last time I saw him, which was
[00:29:52] a great gesture on his part, was in the Recoleta cemetery
[00:29:56] at my father's burial in August of
[00:29:59] 2023, and that with him
[00:30:32] great, until next time,
[00:30:34] come on, a big kiss and much love,
[00:30:38] and well, many greetings again to Chiche's family,
[00:30:41] goodbye, thank you for your
[00:30:43] time,
[00:30:47] thank you,
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