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[00:00:00] of August, yes, she says, having verified that her activity
[00:00:03] produces disturbing noises, she must adapt
[00:00:06] eh, that is, on the walls in the courts with sound insulation effects of
[00:00:09] soundproofing according to what
[00:00:11] has been notified established, there is an ordinance
[00:00:15] not an ordinance this, yes, there she must also
[00:00:18] comply with the parking modules, not
[00:00:21] selling alcoholic beverages, the municipality is demanding it with good reason, here the
[00:00:25] municipality is doing the right thing, not with good reason, these
[00:00:29] are necessary measures to avoid annoying
[00:00:32] noises, take the necessary measures so that there are no piles of cars and
[00:00:36] they block the garage of neighbors, do not sell
[00:00:40] alcoholic beverages to minors or there is a schedule where you can consume and
[00:00:43] sell alcoholic beverages, the kids with the big
[00:00:47] alcoholic glasses here on the sidewalk, you have them registered in image,
[00:00:50] that in video, you have that registered in video, but they are
[00:00:55] information about minors or are they images of kids with a glass of beer
[00:00:59] I don't know if minors, they are young kids, but again
[00:01:02] there was a kid here on the sidewalk of my house,
[00:01:06] who said don't drive because I've already drunk too much and I can't
[00:01:10] drive, no, well, but wait, wait, there are things that are not his
[00:01:13] responsibility, no, but wait, wait, because I understand your anger
[00:01:17] and obviously there are issues that are the fault of the place, but there are things that
[00:01:20] are not, if a person drinks alcohol, he cannot go out and take the
[00:01:24] car keys from him, that person's responsibility
[00:01:28] is theirs,
[00:01:38] it would only be his responsibility if they were
[00:01:41] minors, not only if he is authorized to sell
[00:01:44] alcohol, which I don't know if he is authorized to, he is not authorized to
[00:01:48] sell, he is authorized here in the ordinance it says that it is prohibited, it is prohibited in the
[00:01:52] ordinance it says that it is prohibited to sell alcohol, that is another thing,
[00:01:55] how much does it cost to rent a paddle court, how much
[00:01:59] whom we will speak now, in does it cost per hour in that complex? I have no idea, you
[00:02:01] have no idea, he must charge very cheap, because later
[00:02:06] of course the data of it gets full here, because I have the feeling, I know that this sport, tennis for
[00:02:10] example, is a sport perhaps for many of the
[00:02:13] elite, because they are mistaken, today
[00:02:16] selling drugs in it is much more popular, rugby at some point was elite and today it is very popular, there
[00:02:19] are many low-income people who play rugby and do it very well, there are many
[00:02:23] examples in the national team, in the Pumas for example, now the father
[00:02:26] still has that feeling that it is a sport. for example
[00:02:32] Uh, that she had tattoos on her 80 80 thousand
[00:02:35] no but you divide it into but you always play in pairs so you divide it by
[00:02:38] four pesos here here in
[00:02:42] Argentina, not Ushuaia here in Argentina
[00:02:44] it's me, really now in the province of Buenos Aires it's
[00:02:48] a little cheaper, Ushuaia, Tierra del Fuego is always much
[00:02:51] more expensive
[00:02:53] the point is that you divide it by four
[00:02:56] because in paddle. you always play in pairs, sure, but
[00:03:00] Mr. Gonzalo from the police station in San you know what's difficult about the board, it's 20 thousand bucks, it would be
[00:03:03] expensive to play soccer, it costs 5000 pesos per head, but for kids, stop,
[00:03:08] connection is, here we are with
[00:03:09] lives, they do you know how difficult it is for Nati and her family to have
[00:03:11] racket shots all day screaming all day and sometimes
[00:03:15] paddle shots, I'm going to correct you, paddle shots
[00:03:18] paddle shots, correct the board then, paddle shots, of course, the kids will use the
[00:03:21] rackets and scream all
[00:03:25] day, I look at the guys who are playing paddle and also
[00:03:29] help her to get out of the ladies. adults and kids, because in this court they are young, look what
[00:03:33] Nati said, they are teenagers, the four of them there, perhaps with a
[00:03:38] support dad, but here there is a couple, no children, Nati, the clothes,
[00:03:42] when you go to play soccer, you put on your most ripped pants and your most ripped socks, it's a
[00:03:46] much more popular
[00:03:48] sport,
[00:03:51] one can say, sorry, here one can say the doctor, the
[00:03:54] lawyer, the architect, Pintita, eh,
[00:03:58] the politician and Pintita. there is an investment in the
[00:04:01] paddles, the paddles are
[00:04:04] expensive, the cleats cost 100 thousand
[00:04:06] minimum, 7 years ago the same cleats, because look how they
[00:04:10] dressed up like models, I have a message here for the neighbor
[00:04:14] that you have back there, I think it's the poorest one, the poorest one of
[00:04:18] them, I have a message for the neighbor, let's see what she says, let's see what she says,
[00:04:21] hello, good morning, I understand the neighbor, they say here, I'm going to give you a piece of advice, put
[00:04:24] a siren on it, it will make him deaf, I put it because I had an annoying
[00:04:28] neighbor and it worked like a charm, look, here they recommend a siren here
[00:04:31] to arrive at a siren here it is, look, here
[00:04:34] he makes noise for the whole neighborhood, of course, and the kids can't
[00:04:38] like that, furthermore, the owner of play paddle, I don't know if that's the solution, it ends badly,
[00:04:41] him, no, the owner of it ends badly, let's also respect the owner of the paddle court,
[00:04:45] right, who can play,
[00:04:48] yes, the racket shots don't get stained,
[00:04:50] a photo, Graciela, I'll tell you this, they talk about guys, let the paddle continue, here the ideal would be to find a
[00:04:53] solution that the owner of the complex and
[00:04:57] we are here for that,
[00:05:00] you can't reconcile with this person when he
[00:05:03] threatens you and says no, if you don't, I swear, I'll tell you
[00:05:07] why, because two days
[00:05:10] ago he was here, as always, standing here on his
[00:05:13] sidewalk, I don't know who works, he doesn't work, and I was
[00:05:17] arriving at my house and he told me, now I'm going to make your life
[00:05:21] impossible, now you won't live in peace anymore, he told me, oh, oh, well,
[00:05:24] well, yes, well, well, with insults of all kinds towards me,
[00:05:27] you can't imagine,
[00:05:30] from fat, bitch, all those insults, because he
[00:05:33] gets involved, he gets involved with the topic of the body, he gets involved with all that,
[00:05:37] he, you have a partner, so you can't talk to a person like that, you have a husband at
[00:05:41] this moment, I've been separated for 8 months,
[00:05:44] moreover, I also wanted to say that the father doesn't
[00:05:48] help with child support, that he's been owing it for 8 or 9 months,
[00:05:51] with that money we could move out of
[00:05:55] here, well he takes advantage of everything
[00:05:57] easier, there's no one who can help Nati with the
[00:06:01] drilling of this and have water,
[00:06:04] because it's a very expensive woman, for me a million
[00:06:08] is very expensive, and I'm telling you not more than a million because you have.
[00:06:16] very expensive, it's expensive with a compressor, imagine with a submersible
[00:06:19] pump, but water is very serious, it's serious, it's a serious problem, no, yes, it's with
[00:06:23] now they go with submersible pumps, of course, before it was with a compressor, the thing is that in some
[00:06:27] places in the province of Buenos Aires the compressor does not eliminate scale, this causes
[00:06:30] damage to the pipes, that's why these deep
[00:06:34] well pumps are used, which are even more expensive, impossible to buy
[00:06:38] because many are brought from abroad, they are not
[00:06:41] pumps. These pumps that you mention with the automatic ones with a
[00:06:45] lot of issues that end up costing really one and a half
[00:06:48] million or 2 million pesos, that's where they start, I
[00:06:51] was asking you about your partner Nati because it's very painful to hear you say that
[00:06:55] this person, because he's a man, the mistreatment and aggression
[00:06:59] that you just mentioned, it hurts me that a man, I can't
[00:07:03] reproduce the things he tells me because I can't
[00:07:06] reproduce them, the truth is that with this type of posture it's
[00:07:09] impossible to find a dialogue and reach an agreement. which is
[00:07:13] the ideal, not the impossible
[00:07:16] dreamed-of solution, dialogue, agreement, I don't
[00:07:20] know if the new one will reconnect the water, but I do know that
[00:07:23] it will end the noises basically, but how do you end the noises,
[00:07:27] you have to close the court, man, there's no
[00:07:29] way, he has to put the acoustic panels that he
[00:07:33] clear, how much do the acoustic panels cost, it would be so
[00:07:37] easy if he did all that, look for, look for how much
[00:07:40] an acoustic panel costs to avoid annoying noise in a paddle court, let's agree that it's not a
[00:07:44] humble paddle court, it doesn't have to be, it's
[00:07:48] important, very important from what we're seeing, it's only two courts,
[00:07:51] yes, it's not at all humble, he is
[00:07:54] opening, I'm telling you more, he's opening another paddle court on the corner on the other block and he says he doesn't have
[00:07:58] money to put one in, well, I don't understand, oh well, well,
[00:08:02] he's expanding the complex in the
[00:08:05] complex is next to your
[00:08:08] house, it's only two courts, we have a video where two are seen,
[00:08:12] but there could be more, I don't know, I think so, it's two courts, I think
[00:08:16] not, I've never been in there, but I think what happens with the cars, Nati, also
[00:08:20] causes complications, the parking issue, that's
[00:08:23] also a pretty screwed up issue because they
[00:08:27] should park in a single line and they park when it's the
[00:08:30] weekend and it gets full here, they park in double file, my mom
[00:08:34] when she comes from my brother's house, sometimes Uber has to stop on the
[00:08:38] other block because cars can't park here, it's a
[00:08:41] problem. Also what you're mentioning, the neighbor next door
[00:08:45] put things up so they wouldn't park, I'm not going to, I'm not going to
[00:08:50] him, but sometimes people are
[00:08:54] quite rude, you told me, you told us that
[00:08:58] you have a school, of course, that you have a school near your house
[00:09:01] and people park, they block the entrances, if you want to
[00:09:05] leave with the car, you have to go look for the father or the mother who God
[00:09:09] knows where they are, the truth is that people in that
[00:09:13] are very rude and another issue is that generally
[00:09:17] we like to be told what's wrong, so when she
[00:09:20] started with these requests, I imagine that at first, I don't know, they must
[00:09:24] have been, can I ask you to stop making noise,
[00:09:28] can I ask you, could you, would there be a possibility that and
[00:09:31] then it got worse and worse when there was a
[00:09:35] calm dialogue, a calm dialogue
[00:09:37] where I could send him whatsapp messages telling him, can you put
[00:09:41] some... how is it, some nets so that the ball doesn't pass and doesn't hit the
[00:09:45] sheet metal, yes, yes, in a week I'll do it, yes, yes, he was all
[00:09:51] the house, who is my sister, told
[00:09:54] the house, who is my sister, told him, he, a month ago, told
[00:09:57] him, in 20 days I'll put all the acoustic panels, I give you my word,
[00:10:01] there it is, he didn't do anything, well, there should be a
[00:10:04] responsibility on the other side, it's very difficult, one understands that
[00:10:08] this guy, man, I don't know his age, wants
[00:10:11] to work. And the truth is that we cannot be against that, but he has to do it
[00:10:15] under the correct conditions so that the neighbors are not suffering it,
[00:10:19] one perhaps says, well, how much can a ball echoing
[00:10:23] again, the shouting, extended hours,
[00:10:27] every day, it comes to a point when you are tired,
[00:10:31] you want to listen to TV, you want to have dinner with your family or
[00:10:34] you want to sleep early because you are tired too, it's difficult boys, I'm telling
[00:10:38] you the truth, the boys go to their friends' houses to study because they can't even
[00:10:41] study with those balls hitting there, it's a distraction, it
[00:10:45] distracts them, you have, you have data on the panels, a
[00:10:49] wide range, but it goes from 31 to 130, pesos per panel
[00:10:53] according to the dimensions of the manufacturer.
[00:10:56] Yes, the quality, well, we wanted to hear you, we wanted to see
[00:11:00] how the situation was, so we're going to wait to see
[00:11:03] what answer can be given, we send you a big kiss,
[00:11:06] thank you, please, if someone can help me with the drilling
[00:11:10] issue,
[00:11:14] that the father takes responsibility because the father works,
[00:11:16] he works in a truck company and he is a truck
[00:11:20] driver.
[00:11:22] Very well, we'll be right back.
[00:11:27] Last
[00:11:27] minute,
[00:11:32] desperate search for
[00:11:34] Micaela,
[00:11:36] 4 days ago they haven't heard
[00:11:39] anything, they saw her at Puerta de
[00:11:43] Hierro,
[00:11:45] police just now activated her Instagram,
[00:11:48] was it her or someone has her
[00:11:50] fue e ella o alguien tiene su
[00:11:52] cell phone.
[00:11:57] Working live and direct, Facundo
[00:11:59] Muñoz,
[00:12:03] how are you doing, exactly Micaela Tages, yes, a
[00:12:06] 25-year-old woman who on Sunday
[00:12:10] morning leaves her house and nothing more has been known
[00:12:13] since then, yes, of course, different versions are arriving,
[00:12:16] rumors, even chats
[00:12:20] that are sent to mother Graciela, with
[00:12:24] which they say they saw her in Puerta de Hierro
[00:12:27] and then in recent days
[00:12:31] villa 1114 arises, well, two
[00:12:34] data that so far there is no certainty, what is known is that she
[00:12:38] was
[00:12:41] villa Puerta de Hierro, this is how it is, yes, yes, no,
[00:12:45] it was always the first, last time they
[00:12:48] beat her, they took her to the hospital 21,
[00:12:52] she there. How was the
[00:12:56] last time, uh, let's say when she leaves your house?
[00:12:59] She leaves my house at 1:30 in the
[00:13:02] morning from Sunday to Monday
[00:13:05] from the 7th of September
[00:13:08] and we had a mother-daughter
[00:13:12] argument because she wanted to go and I told her no, that she should go tomorrow the next day in the
[00:13:15] morning and she told me my friend couldn't reach me
[00:13:19] and I told her she went to her friend's house and she left
[00:13:22] at that time and then she called. I'm asking her friends, asking her
[00:13:26] friends and her friends didn't know anything about her, they are asking
[00:13:29] her in the neighborhood where my brother also
[00:13:34] told me that she was
[00:13:37] killed, my brother told me that she was killed in Puerta de Hierro
[00:13:41] that a friend went to knock on her door and he didn't know
[00:13:44] anything, yes, it seems that they killed your niece Mica in Puerta
[00:13:47] de Hierro, eh, I came and filed the
[00:13:50] report here in San Justo
[00:13:53] and I told the officer, Mr.
[00:13:57] Gonzalo sent me a patrol car to
[00:14:00] patrol around there in Puerta de Hierro but on the sides of
[00:14:03] Puerta and then we went through the
[00:14:06] path, there was a tent where two girls were living and the
[00:14:10] police officer showed him the photo of Mica, of
[00:14:14] my daughter and he said yes, her name is Mica but she doesn't
[00:14:17] come here to the alleys but the patrol car didn't
[00:14:21] go into the alleys, we went through the door of the avenue of Crovara
[00:14:25] I don't know or Cristiana I don't remember on the street
[00:14:28] and eh we went through all the back
[00:14:31] and they didn't find her. Now do you think she might
[00:14:35] be dead, that they might have killed her because there's a previous episode and
[00:14:39] I want you to tell it, that she went to that
[00:14:43] settlement and sold drugs, is that right? She
[00:14:46] went but I'll explain, it was only one time but not every
[00:14:50] day every time she is terrible she went to
[00:14:53] Puerta de Hierro, she went to sell eh what did she go to sell
[00:14:57] eh paco, she consumes
[00:15:00] paco, no, she consumes paco and well, she's terrible, my
[00:15:04] daughter Micaela because when she's sweet and good when she's not
[00:15:08] on drugs but she goes on a
[00:15:12] binge she goes all day for three four days she goes
[00:15:15] but she calls me I'm coming home here calm but this
[00:15:19] time she didn't come back again I want to know
[00:15:23] I want to ask for the cameras
[00:15:25] of eh the cameras of Puerta de Hierro to see if she entered alone, at what time
[00:15:29] she entered, if someone took her eh,
[00:15:33] because I also want to ask for the cameras of
[00:15:35] 1:14 of the witness. who saw my daughter,
[00:15:39] yes, Dani, Ana, Graciela is already listening, Graciela,
[00:15:42] how are you, obviously it's a way to
[00:15:45] introduce yourself, I understand that you are desperate for
[00:15:49] Micaela, how old is Micaela,
[00:15:53] 25 years old, how many years have you been
[00:15:56] going through this absolute
[00:15:59] nightmare,
[00:16:02] and several years, you know, but she, I talked to her,
[00:16:05] uh, her brothers talked to her, her uncles
[00:16:09] talked to her, but she doesn't listen, she says yes, but
[00:16:12] no, she doesn't listen, you know, with a drug
[00:16:16] addiction problem, beyond what selling could be, she has
[00:16:20] a very clear addiction problem and in Argentina it's very
[00:16:23] difficult when one is humble to get out of such
[00:16:27] a complex situation, tell me about this case
[00:16:30] where I think Micaela's uncle
[00:16:34] ends up being called to identify a body. Is this true,
[00:16:37] I'd be lying to
[00:16:41] you if I told you, because
[00:16:45] no, no, no, I don't know, because my brother didn't tell me anything about that, yes,
[00:16:48] the only thing I know is that they told him there was a girl's body, they didn't know if it
[00:16:52] was my daughter Micaela or another girl,
[00:16:56] I went to the police station there in San Alberto, they
[00:16:59] told me that they don't know anything, that they didn't report anything, the neighbors
[00:17:03] there didn't report that there was a dead girl's body there
[00:17:07] in allow me to clarify this, allow me to clarify this
[00:17:10] Graciela, because otherwise what I was saying
[00:17:13] would be inconclusive, that Micaela's uncle was called,
[00:17:17] fortunately that body that he had to identify was not
[00:17:20] Micaela, but imagine the desperation, I'm telling you
[00:17:24] this for this reason, imagine the desperation that the
[00:17:28] family is going through, that the police call you or the morgue calls you or
[00:17:31] the justice system calls you and tells you that you have to come to identify a body, they are
[00:17:35] desperate, guys, someone has to... be able to help them in
[00:17:38] some way,
[00:17:42] yes, I'll tell you, I went to Valentini Hospital
[00:17:45] to inquire at the morgue, I went
[00:17:48] yesterday and as I said yesterday night on
[00:17:51] the news, they didn't let me in, they didn't take
[00:17:55] me to the morgue, a police
[00:17:58] officer attended me, a doctor from there, he told me that she was not
[00:18:01] there, I gave him her name, last name and I
[00:18:04] told him what she was like.
[00:18:09] leg and arm, yes, no, we don't have any
[00:18:13] body here, nor do we have your daughter here, I showed him the photo of
[00:18:16] Mica, of that, Graciela, the justice system should take care of
[00:18:19] that, you don't have to be wandering around
[00:18:23] different places, whether it's in some
[00:18:26] place like a police station, a hospital or even a
[00:18:30] morgue,
[00:18:33] sure, yes, yes, but I'll explain, yesterday the
[00:18:38] Justo called
[00:18:40] me asking if I knew anything about my daughter, I told we want her to come back, we want to have a family meeting him no, do you know anything, no,
[00:18:44] so I don't know because for me they are not investigating
[00:18:47] anything, they don't know anything because I
[00:18:50] need to know where my daughter is, if she is alive or
[00:18:53] dead, her brothers, her uncles, I, her mother, who is
[00:18:57] her mother, we are all worried,
[00:19:03] and talk to her normally,
[00:19:07] her drug addiction, yes, had
[00:19:10] something similar happened at some point, that she was absent for so
[00:19:13] many days, that she was with people you don't
[00:19:17] know, how
[00:19:18] difficult,
[00:19:21] uh, look, she used to go away for three or four
[00:19:24] days, but she would call me and the next day she would come
[00:19:28] home, yes, but lately she
[00:19:31] hasn't called me anymore, she hasn't appeared anywhere,
[00:19:35] they are taking photos from her social media, from my daughter, that
[00:19:38] they know that I told Nico, and I passed it to Nico from
[00:19:42] Crónica, they are publishing that, I want to know who
[00:19:46] it is because my daughter doesn't have a cell phone, she used to have one but she
[00:19:49] sold it to buy her drugs, no, but the cell phone is my
[00:19:53] cell phone, she had her Facebook on my
[00:19:57] cell phone, as I showed Facundo, he heard the
[00:20:00] audio, yesterday they published this about your daughter, about
[00:20:04] Micaela, let me ask you a question because drugs do
[00:20:07] lead to the darkest and most
[00:20:11] dangerous places, is she a sex
[00:20:14] worker, you just mentioned that
[00:20:17] she also sold drugs,
[00:20:20] when a person doesn't have money to consume and has a
[00:20:24] problem precisely with consumption, they do whatever
[00:20:27] it takes,
[00:20:30] uh, yes, that's right, but I can't tell
[00:20:34] you anything about that, I don't know, I can't lie to you because she went only once. to
[00:20:38] sell, yes, she needed to consume
[00:20:41] paco because she never told
[00:20:44] me if she did sexual things or worked there in Puerta de Hierro.
[00:20:48] I don't know anything because those are dangerous spaces,
[00:20:52] of course, sex workers know that they expose
[00:20:55] themselves to very dangerous places, well, in fact, the triple crime of Floresso
[00:20:58] Varela begins with or has this relationship
[00:21:02] drugs, prostitution and what a coincidence also
[00:21:06] there is a Puerta de Hierro, it's not where they disappear, it's
[00:21:09] where they disappear, so that's why I asked you, Anita, this
[00:21:13] exactly because it could be an extreme situation that your daughter is going through,
[00:21:17] this of not having money to consume and well,
[00:21:20] connections with dangerous people, period, that's what we have to
[00:21:23] understand, that they have to help her, that's right, the truth is if she
[00:21:26] did it,
[00:21:28] if she did it, I don't know
[00:21:30] because I never went to
[00:21:34] Puerta de Hierro, she told me, I'm
[00:21:37] telling you exactly as I told you a while ago, her
[00:21:40] life, I didn't know her, the only thing I know is that she was
[00:21:44] very terrible when she was drugged,
[00:21:48] what does
[00:21:50] very terrible
[00:21:53] mean when she was under the effects of having consumed, what
[00:21:56] does it mean, help us to understand very terrible, what
[00:22:00] thing uh, in the sense
[00:22:02] that she was bad, she would make a
[00:22:06] mess, she would insult people,
[00:22:10] you understand, uh, all the effects of drugs, like
[00:22:13] all drug addicts, no, yes, you just said we want
[00:22:16] to help her get out of drug
[00:22:20] use, did she ever seek help,
[00:22:24] did she want to be hospitalized, did she want to get out of that addiction,
[00:22:27] she, look, she told me, I want to
[00:22:31] quit drugs, I want to be hospitalized, well let's go, I'll talk to someone
[00:22:35] who can hospitalize you, when I told her let's hospitalize you, she said no,
[00:22:39] I don't want to be hospitalized, you understand, my
[00:22:42] brother, my children, Mica's brothers, talked
[00:22:46] to her well and she says like that, yes, but that yes never was...
[00:22:54] Graciela, I'm not questioning you, please, don't take it that way,
[00:22:58] but I'm a mother, no, no, no, of a girl who has, for
[00:23:02] me she's still a girl, exactly the same age as my daughter, as your
[00:23:05] daughter, you didn't grab, yes, they are girls,
[00:23:09] your bag, your purse, your fanny pack, and you went to
[00:23:12] look for her, I think I would go to look for her at Puerta de Hierro, guys, my
[00:23:15] desperation would lead me to
[00:23:18] go look for her wherever they told me that... obviously it's not
[00:23:21] your obligation, it's not
[00:23:24] your responsibility, but I think you went to look for her at
[00:23:28] some point,
[00:23:32] uh, I went to look for her at the hospital, at the police station, that's all, I didn't go to Puerta
[00:23:35] de Hierro, I went with the patrol car but I didn't see
[00:23:39] her walking on the sides of the street, the
[00:23:42] alleys,
[00:23:45] no, I know, obviously as you say, but
[00:23:48] I never went
[00:23:54] there, uh, I don't know how the
[00:23:58] the objective of finding this girl Mica, who has
[00:24:02] a drug addiction problem, Graciela is showing her face and
[00:24:05] literally asking for help through
[00:24:07] the news, uh, but when there's a person who
[00:24:11] uses drugs, they try to move in that dangerous environment as Anita
[00:24:15] pointed out, and it's not only Puerta de
[00:24:18] Hierro, the issue of...
[00:24:50] No one knows anything, they are looking for her, asking around in the neighborhood,
[00:24:54] but no one knows anything, no one saw her, when they saw her, they would tell my
[00:24:57] brother, people from the neighborhood, my friends, boys, girls.
[00:25:00] mío, muchachos, chicas
[00:25:03] So no, no, no, they don't know anything, what happens
[00:25:06] is that she walked by on one side by the, what happens is that we installed the name "Iron Gate" because your brother says
[00:25:10] he was there, but we also don't know if the one who says it is reliable, there is no
[00:25:14] photo of her in Iron Gate, no we also don't know if yes, in the
[00:25:17] case. Oh, of course, she could also be somewhere else
[00:25:21] directly, it could be that they told them Iron Gate so that the police would investigate in another
[00:25:24] place completely opposite to where Micaela
[00:25:28] could be, planting a clue, of course. Of course, they gave smoke,
[00:25:31] of course, they also talk about the
[00:25:35] 1114, sorry, Graciela, they sent you
[00:25:40] the 1114, they also sent me a photo
[00:25:43] of her from the F of
[00:25:46] her that I showed Facundo, it could be.
[00:25:50] I had you listen to the audio to the other guy also from the chronicle,
[00:25:53] they heard that yesterday they published in the photo of
[00:25:57] my daughter, of Micaela, where did they
[00:26:00] publish it? On the Facebook of the... to publish a photo of the
[00:26:03] daughter on Facebook, she herself sent it to me
[00:26:08] Micaela's account. Wait, Graciela, because if we don't understand
[00:26:11] ourselves, Micaela's account had activity and
[00:26:15] they published on that Facebook her personal
[00:26:18] photograph which is of her, obviously
[00:26:21] yes, yes. Well, what I propose is,
[00:26:25] did the one who told him she was in Iron Gate show him any
[00:26:28] photo of her being in Iron Gate? That's what I was asking.
[00:26:32] To believe him, my brother didn't.
[00:26:36] No, my brother no, my brother told a friend
[00:26:40] he warned him when my brother came to work
[00:26:42] and
[00:26:45] you saw what, that I don't know anything, he said they killed
[00:26:49] her in Puerto, they killed my Micaela, your niece. No, I don't know anything, my brother
[00:26:52] told me then, and when you received this
[00:26:58] the possibility of your daughter's murder,
[00:27:01] you, I imagine, went directly to Iron Gate, the entire family mobilized
[00:27:05] to Iron Gate, beyond the fact that it's difficult to enter,
[00:27:08] to go in, it's about your daughter, did you go to confirm this data, the information?
[00:27:12] No, no, no, we didn't go to Iron Gate,
[00:27:16] no, I didn't go, and why didn't you go? I went with the patrol car
[00:27:20] to Abad, but why didn't you go? If they tell me, with this
[00:27:23] panorama, they give me a version that my daughter
[00:27:27] was murdered in Iron Gate and they give me the data of where the
[00:27:30] body might be, I would have made the decision, beyond how
[00:27:34] dangerous it is, to confirm the information, Graciela, I don't
[00:27:38] understand why you didn't
[00:27:39] do it.
[00:27:43] Eh, the truth is I don't know, because I should go, you know, but I only went with the
[00:27:47] patrol car, eh, I went to the hospital
[00:27:50] to find out if she was there, Graciela.
[00:27:54] You have to go, you have to take courage and have the
[00:27:57] family, the siblings help you and go and
[00:28:00] walk the streets of Iron Gate. Surely the good neighbors
[00:28:04] will open up the possibility of walking,
[00:28:07] observing, eh, gathering data, information, helping you
[00:28:11] to accompany some data like "we saw her here but she left with such and
[00:28:14] such a person," there are always supportive people, Graciela, I can't understand
[00:28:18] why you're not still walking the streets of Iron Gate with that
[00:28:22] information.
[00:28:25] Eh, the truth is I understand you, I'm going to have to go today to find out
[00:28:29] well how the situation is about whether my...
[00:28:32] friend was in Iron Gate, she had friends in Iron Gate,
[00:28:36] she knew people,
[00:28:39] acquaintances, contacts like that, acquaintances, but I don't
[00:28:42] know them, I don't know who they are, no, you don't have the data.
[00:28:45] Well, I don't know who they are, the no, no, no, well, maybe the
[00:28:49] friends you do know, who might be going through the same problem as
[00:28:53] Micaela, can't provide any data. I mean, it's 4
[00:28:56] days of a 25-year-old girl being absent, if her friends know, they have
[00:29:00] to break, they have to give the data.
[00:29:05] No, listen, I understand what you're saying, but they're not really friends, they're people
[00:29:08] from the environment where one ends up and who
[00:29:12] surely,
[00:29:14] no, but they're in the same situation as her, they're in a problematic consumption, they're
[00:29:18] involved or implicated, perhaps even in the same thing Graciela
[00:29:21] said, no, I'm not attacking Micaela, sorry,
[00:29:25] and I don't want you to interpret it that way, but a person who is in
[00:29:28] the same problematic consumption as you won't help you, they don't have. Returning
[00:30:15] to the discussion, we have as a past, as
[00:30:19] a past and data issue, the triple crime of
[00:30:22] Florencia. So it seems to me that we should,
[00:30:26] they're going to call Carlos, we should try to make those friends who are not
[00:30:30] friends understand. Or
[00:30:33] who share Mica's addiction, that there is a
[00:30:37] woman absent for 4 days. So, beyond the
[00:30:40] codes, here the codes have to be thrown in the trash, we have to try to
[00:30:44] provide some data, maybe they have it, maybe not, it's 4 days of
[00:30:47] absence which is already serious, it's more than worrying, okay, but in that
[00:30:51] environment, I don't know if there are friends listen, I don't, but you're not
[00:30:54] understanding me, I'm not talking about friendship, I'm talking about
[00:30:56] them, they won't take care of her, they don't care.