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[00:00:00] The economic situation is unsustainable. One earns 1 million. Let the guy defending the
[00:00:03] government tell me how to live with 1 million. The guy must be Ignacio,
[00:00:07] I suppose, no? He's a little more
[00:00:10] merchants, let's see, regarding what than the guy defending the government. Let's categorize him. He's the economist. Of course, of course,
[00:00:13] Ignacio, we defend you. You're a little more than the guy defending the government. How do you
[00:00:17] explain that to the lady who tells you that? No, look, what we have
[00:00:21] to work on here is wages. The thing is that wages are not an arbitrary measure that suddenly
[00:00:25] a politician comes and tells you that from now on the minimum vital and mobile wage will be, for
[00:00:29] example, 5 million, because there won't be a single company that can pay you, or there are very
[00:00:32] few that can pay you that salary. Wages depend on
[00:00:35] productivity. Productivity depends on investment.
[00:00:39] It depends on Argentina not being a fiscal hell and having legal
[00:00:42] certainty. You know, a retiree
[00:00:45] 400 something thousand, almost reaching
[00:00:48] 500 thousand, isn't enough, because when you discount PAMI, it doesn't even reach
[00:00:52] 5000 pesos. But listen, Tamara, what you're
[00:00:54] saying, you know what happens? You're trying to present that as
[00:00:58] if it were something.
[00:01:07] are clients, that is, my neighbors from
[00:01:40] the market than buying clothes, of course. I mean, if there's any money, it's for buying
[00:01:44] merchandise to resell in food, yes. This,
[00:01:47] yes, and coming, it's a very busy
[00:01:50] day, many people who didn't have to take their
[00:01:53] children to school, Teacher's Day, so also
[00:01:56] this, uh, they come here and you'll see in the hall.
[00:02:00] I see there's a different movement than usual, but it has to do with this, the weekend,
[00:02:03] families who are with their kids
[00:02:07] who are not tied to school entry or exit, and
[00:02:10] a different price, we already know that, affordable for the
[00:02:14] pocket, different from the greengrocer on the
[00:02:17] corner, so people come here because it's worth it. Here
[00:02:21] we have a price tour to see,
[00:02:24] uh, fruits and vegetables, from oranges for juice,
[00:02:28] 3 kg for 3000, until, well,
[00:02:32] grapefruit also, 3 kg for 3000. These are the numbers that appear.
[00:02:35] The banana that, well, that
[00:02:58] bags you, yes, who
[00:03:02] came with the family alone, where is, where is mom and dad,
[00:03:05] no, I came with my mom, where is your mom, let's see, here
[00:03:09] she is
[00:03:09] cash or buying. Let's see, she came with the whole family, as I
[00:03:13] was telling you, today they didn't go to school, so
[00:03:15] the whole
[00:03:32] graduated from UBA, very good, from people Juan, uh, look, there are people, there are people, there's a lot of movement today,
[00:03:34] today there's a lot of movement, but you always see and it's 11
[00:03:38] they take advantage of the offers that have to do with
[00:03:41] look, look at the usual offers, uh,
[00:03:44] it was to take 2 kg. If we look generally at all the
[00:03:48] stalls, the offers are for 3 kg, almost hitting the
[00:03:51] wholesaler's mark, that is, people choose in quantity.
[00:03:55] Look at the offers, 3 kg of
[00:03:58] mandarins, of
[00:04:05] in parallel, because you are in the market where there are many people and in
[00:04:09] parallel we are seeing Jessie that there is no one, Jessie, I mean clothes
[00:04:13] not to mention, if you have any money on the 11th, you spend it on
[00:04:17] food.
[00:04:21] Friday and generally people take advantage of Fridays as, for
[00:04:24] example, where Juan is or even Avellaneda, places that
[00:04:27] tend to fill up because
[00:04:50] many months, so it seems to me that it's
[00:05:07] closed. What sells the most, do you know what sells the most in
[00:05:12] has normal office hours, from 8 to 4, whatever, not
[00:05:55] goodness.
[00:05:57] More or less, no? Also, what happened? Why more
[00:06:00] or less? What happened? What is it that perhaps, how long
[00:06:03] ago did
[00:06:13] But people come and buy what they need, nothing more. Do you feel
[00:06:16] that since the assumption of Milei, you feel that sales have dropped?
[00:06:20] I mean, I convey what you are mentioning, yes,
[00:06:21] 100%.
[00:06:27] For example, how many sales did you have, more or less? You haven't opened the cash register yet. You haven't
[00:06:31] opened the cash register yet, have you? You can't
[00:06:34] ask her, you can ask her how long it's been since she saw those
[00:06:37] buses that used to come with people from the interior to buy, who would buy
[00:06:41] bags of clothes.
[00:06:47] greets you, I have a question for you, how long has it been since you saw those buses coming with a lot of
[00:06:51] people from the interior who would take bags and bags of
[00:06:57] the provinces? 2024.
[00:07:00] A long time, a long time. How long? I've been working here for a short time
[00:07:04] anyway, but you always dedicated yourself to this. I've been working here for three months and I still haven't seen it, you never saw it, and
[00:07:07] I still haven't seen it. Clear, but sometime.
[00:07:11] does this apply to the business of selling clothes and so on, or is this the first
[00:07:14] time? No,
[00:07:18] yes, I always worked in stores, so you're
[00:07:22] able to answer what I'm asking you. How long has it been, more or less, since
[00:07:26] you've seen that people no longer buy that amount of clothes to
[00:07:29] sell in the
[00:07:31] provinces?
[00:07:33] It's been a long time, as I told you, I've only been here
[00:08:27] see, uh, here, hello, I'm a
[00:08:30] retiree, I don't take loans, I don't rent, yes,
[00:08:33] I pay for services, I'm not eating. In the future, if they don't increase
[00:08:36] it, uh, I'm going to fall, I'm going to fall into the void, everything is increasing, where do they want
[00:08:40] to go? Last month I got 395,
[00:08:43] I managed to pay for services and barely ate, uh,
[00:08:46] Argentina is a country that got used to misery, yes,
[00:08:50] all miserable, uh, the thing is that it's difficult to say, because it's something that
[00:08:54] the current government inherited, but I don't see any will for it to change, because it's
[00:08:58] cultural, guys, I say this, yes, it's
[00:09:01] cultural. If you consider that if you consider, if in your
[00:09:04] eyes you consider that this is the same, this shirt, I just
[00:09:08] saw, but if the merchants are surviving?
[00:09:11] a culture of misery, of informality, of the
[00:09:25] mud, of the street, of dirt, of not having
[00:09:28] gogas, of the pizza tests are getting worse and worse and they are more
[00:09:32] stupid. That's the culture. In Argentina it's a country in decomposition.
[00:09:36] I don't want to get involved in anyone's business,
[00:09:38] guys, but you know why? It
[00:09:41] was wrong for buses to go to buy in these places,
[00:09:45] because it's all contraband and fake. No, no, no,
[00:09:49] no. In Avellaneda, the buses went as he said, I
[00:09:53] don't want to talk about that because I'm not going to get into business because there were tons of
[00:09:56] manufacturers and there was no brand. A lot of
[00:09:58] manufacturing, yes, from industry. Let's see, it's true what Ernesto says, that there was surely
[00:10:02] brand counterfeiting, it's true, Ernesto, but also
[00:10:05] there was also another type of
[00:10:09] clothing that came to buy that.
[00:10:13] also clothing stores in the interior and they sold well and today they are all
[00:10:19] these places? Sports
[00:10:23] clothes, yes.
[00:11:03] Let's go again, let's go to the central market, tell me in the central market, the central
[00:11:06] market, all the fruits and vegetables that are not imported and
[00:11:10] that come from the farmers who surround the greater, La
[00:11:13] Plata and all that, tell me in what situations that
[00:11:16] vegetable is made, we normalize misery,
[00:11:19] we normalize backwardness, we normalize slave labor,
[00:11:23] informality. I'm going to blame this government because this has been going on for many
[00:11:27] years, but it didn't get worse, it got worse with this
[00:11:30] central government, they give tickets, let's see.
[00:11:33] No.
[00:11:36] But in the central market, people don't use cash today. In the central market, you transfer and
[00:11:40] that, uh, something is formalized, I don't know where, but something will
[00:11:43] have to be justified. If it's not by QR, no, eh, be careful, a transfer
[00:11:46] is one thing, when you pay it's another thing. Sorry, the
[00:11:50] central market today doesn't accept cash. Today you always go to buy fish, you go
[00:11:54] to the market.
[00:11:57] The Chinese who go to buy, the Chinese who go to buy at the central market transfer, and the
[00:12:01] minimum you buy of fish is five million. Transfer, but they
[00:12:05] have to give you a ticket, it has nothing to do with it. Obviously,
[00:12:07] but
[00:12:10] where does that money go? At one point a family of four has
[00:12:13] an average, let's celebrate the shantytown culture,
[00:12:16] let's celebrate it, let's celebrate it, let's say how good the music, the
[00:12:20] music made with two
[00:12:20] little drums.
[00:12:25] It's all the same, guys, it's all the same. This is coming, there are
[00:12:28] entire trucks passing at this moment with textiles from Bolivia to
[00:12:32] Argentina, everyone knows it.
[00:12:35] Stuffed animals that are like this, with stuffed animals that are like this, no, but this is true what I'm
[00:12:39] saying, everyone knows it, all my friends from the 11th know it, all my friends from Avellaneda
[00:12:43] know it, they know where they come from, let me finish talking, they know where the cans are,
[00:12:47] they know where all the cans are, all the fake containers that are at customs
[00:13:33] uh, well, there are violations everywhere.
[00:13:35] That's the answer, that's the answer, that's the answer of the progressives in
[00:13:39] Argentina and the liberals who tell you to open everything.
[00:13:42] Perfect, who are you opening to? I seriously ask
[00:13:45] you, do you know how clothes are made in China? Do you know
[00:13:49] how the countries that China outsourced to,
[00:13:52] countries that are totally broke, that have. 6, 7,
[00:13:56] 8, 10 year olds working in Vietnam, Bangladesh, no, does anyone
[00:14:18] clothing store, yes, women's clothing, but they sell a bit of everything,
[00:14:22] but especially women's clothing.
[00:15:14] Mercedes, Mercedes is one of the merchants, with how long have you been working here? 3 years.
[00:15:18] 3 years, good, one of the first. How are sales going?
[00:15:21] And sales are normal, we would say,
[00:15:25] given the economy. If you put a lot of effort and are continuously
[00:15:28] in the business, paying attention to what the client wants and all
[00:15:32] that, you can maintain it. That is, I calculate that you have
[00:15:36] to be much more on top of it than before. Paying attention to people's
[00:15:39] needs, because today not everyone can afford a piece
[00:15:43] of clothing, so to treat yourself, you have to bring good articles,
[00:15:47] fashionable and economical things. About the
[00:15:50] prices, did you have to remarket anything recently? No, very
[00:15:54] well. No, the only thing we sometimes do is promos. So, for example, if several
[00:15:57] people come, I give them a discount,
[00:16:01] uh, the clothes, for example, you have t-shirts for 12,000 that you can
[00:16:04] pay up to 8 pesos or 6000 if there are several
[00:16:08] people. So, I have them from 2000 pesos there on the hanger and the most expensive
[00:16:11] would be the ones for 40, which are premium line, they have a different fit,
[00:16:15] another quality, so people themselves see it, we have for all
[00:16:19] prices. Yes, because here the debate started, of course, with Shein, with
[00:16:22] Temu, you have super competitive prices with those
[00:16:26] platforms. Of course, yes, how do you achieve those prices, can
[00:16:29] I ask
[00:16:32] you?
[00:16:35] Yes, obviously, I am an expert. La
[00:16:37] Salada. I have direct contacts because I have my
[00:16:41] family factory and some
[00:16:45] La Salada who contact me and pass me, clear, it's like I have
[00:16:49] factory price, we would say, practically.
[00:16:52] So the same people who don't sell, they come from all over the place,
[00:16:55] clear, yes, on weekends they come from,
[00:16:59] uh, no, the merchandise is national.
[00:17:02] They come to buy from Uruguay, from
[00:17:04] Chile. They came on the weekend, she's telling you. In what physical
[00:17:08] place, clear. Physical, most
[00:17:12] are small businesses, let's say, what physical
[00:17:15] place in Argentine territory is
[00:17:18] it located?
[00:17:21] And in several places, in several places.
[00:17:39] online? Do you get online orders? Online is very
[00:17:43] good, do you have many orders?
[00:17:46] No, not online, but I have old clients who trust me,
[00:17:49] they ask me for certain items, and yes, sometimes
[00:17:59] because of
[00:18:01] that,
[00:18:06] WhatsApp. How to say,
[00:18:08] uh,
[00:18:11] a lot of guarantee for the customer via WhatsApp because they talk directly
[00:18:41] with cash or do they transfer, madam, with
[00:18:44] Bitcoin, with
[00:18:46] do they transfer? I charge, not Bitcoin,
[00:18:50] not that
[00:18:51] modern either.
[00:19:14] so be careful,
[00:19:17] no, I also collect cash. I have the point of sale that is
[00:19:20] directly with Arca, so I am a registered
[00:19:23] taxpayer.
[00:20:07] What does it say here? But you are showing me, yes, of course, I am showing you how much your
[00:20:11] pants cost.
[00:20:14] 40, 40, but listen, you are, of course, it has to be the same fabric,
[00:20:18] Ernesto, you have to understand about clothes, I can't show you
[00:20:21] linen, I can't show you linen with
[00:20:24] dedicate yourself to something else. This is a denim palazzo. That's a denim palazzo.
[00:20:28] How much does it cost? Uh, 26,000 pesos. And how much does this one cost?
[00:20:32] Well, go cry to the church a pulled pork sandwich
[00:20:35] in Avellaneda and one with the sales, it's
[00:20:48] seller something. I want to ask the seller something, can
[00:20:52] I? I'm going to ask you the same question I just asked another
[00:20:56] seller who was there. When they let me ask, there you go. I'm
[00:20:59] asking you the same question I asked the other seller, how long has it been since you saw those
[00:21:03] buses coming with a lot of people who came from the interior and
[00:21:07] took bags of clothes to sell them either
[00:21:10] in showrooms or in stores in the interior and so on? How long has it been since you saw that
[00:21:14] huge movement that happened every
[00:21:16] month?
[00:21:18] Of course, but the thing is that you are talking about two different things. You have to see that movement in a place that is much more
[00:21:22] wholesale than in La Salada in Flores, you see that. Here on
[00:21:26] weekends, yes, buses come, but they come from Uruguay, from Chile,
[00:21:30] that is, many people come to buy from us, but it is the
[00:21:33] wholesale customer who wants tranquility, they come with their
[00:21:36] carts, with their children, that is, that tranquility is given with
[00:21:39] sweetness, yes, they can come, yes, buses come, but not so many people
[00:21:43] come, and that gives a lot of security, a lot of guarantee to older people. There are many older people who
[00:21:47] sometimes the salary is not enough and they come and buy and resell, but they can
[00:21:51] only do it here in La Dulce, walking calmly,
[00:21:54] slowly, they leave their purses, their bags, we take care of
[00:21:57] everything here. The client comes, sits down, they have sugar to
[00:22:01] sit on, that is, it's very comfortable.
[00:22:04] I have changing rooms, even with
[00:22:07] a fan, I have the changing rooms, women need to try them on, at least.
[00:22:10] You
[00:23:00] degradation for 50 years, and there's a cultural blackout that has
[00:23:03] caused us to normalize these horrors, that a person comes and tells you
[00:23:07] how good this shirt is, it's not good, brother.
[00:23:28] platforms and the cheapest possible, you know why? Because
[00:23:31] I think sometimes you want to
[00:23:34] buy brands from here and they are very expensive, but very
[00:23:38] expensive. I mean, the other day I'm talking about the last
[00:23:41] shirt they gave me a shirt in
[00:23:44] March and I'm going to change it because I didn't like
[00:23:48] the color. And it was a brand that also isn't a good
[00:23:52] brand, but not a big deal. 170
[00:23:55] thousand pesos.
[00:23:57] It's crazy, it's not that it's expensive, it's crazy, you understand? How many
[00:24:01] euros is that? It's crazy and take it to Europe. 170 thousand pesos will be
[00:24:05] over 100€, a good shirt costs 100€. No, but you have no idea
[00:24:09] how much a good shirt costs.
[00:24:12] Good, from a good brand, the brand with the H
[00:24:15] costs that. Well, listen, well, but it's a good brand, you're not going
[00:24:18] to compare it with the one here, oh well, you're not going to compare it with the one here. That same
[00:24:22] shirt in Spain, in
[00:24:47] Sofi. Look, I also have sweet potato. Yes,
[00:24:50] look, I like
[00:24:52] small potatoes.
[00:24:54] Small potatoes have a different flavor, yes, it's true, yes,
[00:24:57] all that type of cooking that is done with
[00:25:01] special potatoes is quite expensive. Very cheap and
[00:25:04] radishes. Pesos a
[00:25:08] yes, very delicious radish. I don't find any taste
[00:25:11] in it. Yes, it's good, there are
[00:25:13] a lot.
[00:25:18] There are a lot of people. How do you eat a radish in Argentina? Red on the outside, white
[00:25:22] on the inside. There are a lot. There
[00:25:25] are a lot of people, radish, you came today. We had to finish the week
[00:25:28] like this. What happened? Ecuador,
[00:25:43] 1500 per kilo. Yes, uh, well, the
[00:25:46] green one. 2,500 for
[00:25:49] green onions, nice for cooking. Butter lettuce
[00:25:52] 1500 per kilo, arugula 3 for
[00:26:19] but they're also delicious, sautéed, au gratin,
[00:26:23] baked. Lead pumpkin, uh, lead
[00:26:26] pumpkin, there is for for typical
[00:26:29] dishes like and all that it comes for making
[00:26:33] stuffings.
[00:26:35] I'm looking for the big pumpkin, kabocha. I saw
[00:26:38] it around, so.
[00:26:42] You can even put pasta in there. Here are the pumpkins.
[00:26:46] Look, the pumpkin, they sent it to the back.
[00:26:49] Here we have two types. Here we have, they are loading. Here
[00:26:52] we have two types of pumpkin, I'm missing the
[00:26:54] prices. If I see it around, we'll ask
[00:26:58] people here about the
[00:27:01] stuffed pumpkin. Yes, you have
[00:27:03] it.
[00:27:06] There I have the prices, the kilo is 1 peso.
[00:27:09] Marote, the kilo, there it is, perfect, good. 1 peso per kilo of
[00:27:13] kabocha, there it goes, and the zucchini, 2 kg for
[00:27:16] 2000. Let's go. Cassava also, fried, we already
[00:27:19] recommend it. Oh, I love cassava. How nice, fried cassava. What
[00:27:23] an indicator of development Brazil is, cassava. What an indicator of
[00:27:26] development fried cassava is. You know, at the World Bank they ask you,
[00:27:30] do you eat fried cassava?
[00:27:37] an impressive indicator of development, fried cassava, purple onion
[00:27:40] is a bit more expensive, but you know it doesn't bloat as much as
[00:27:44] other onions, the common one.
[00:27:47] That's it, let's not look anymore, let's not look anymore at
[00:27:50] Europe, why do we want to join the OECD, Europe?
[00:27:53] If we like all things that are South American, we want to be
[00:27:57] South American, well, let's be South American, let's eat carbohydrates. We are
[00:28:01] South Americans.
[00:28:02] Let's not have gas, let's not have
[00:28:06] water, everything beautiful.
[00:28:16] this, it's cut and I've
[00:28:19] never eaten it like
[00:28:22] this. like kiwi,
[00:28:47] little time left, soon, how much are
[00:28:50] Jesse's dresses, something a little more, because in Shane and
[00:28:54] in Tenhua carnesto, it doesn't stop showing me they are cheap, half the
[00:28:57] price, they are half the price there, I just saw the palazzo in gin
[00:29:15] together with her brother, run, here is your name,
[00:29:19] how is Emilio, Emilio, well Emilio is here arranging everything,
[00:29:23] organizing everything to continue selling, obviously, how are sales going
[00:29:26] and it's picking up, September always starts to change everything from one moment to
[00:29:30] another, but August was
[00:29:42] very competitive prices
[00:29:47] look, we have t-shirts 2000 pesos
[00:29:49] 3000 pesos the
[00:29:51] pants
[00:29:55] this one, how much is this one 35, this one comes stamped
[00:29:59] here like this and then you have it
[00:30:02] embroidered, this is embroidered here and embroidered
[00:30:32] we will never get out, we naturalize that there is fake clothes everywhere, that there is
[00:30:36] undeclared work, that taxes are not paid, that we import clothes from China that are made by
[00:30:40] children, taxes, this, but who told you that the merchants we are
[00:30:43] seeing do not pay taxes? He is not talking about that, he is generalizing a lot and on the
[00:30:47] other side, a lot of merchants are watching us who are having a hard time, who are selling very little for
[00:30:53] time to hit the merchant, eh it seems to me that because he said before that we are in
[00:30:57] a miserable moment, the Argentine is surviving