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[00:00:31] What's happening here, talk, talk, talk to
[00:01:22] or these are today's topics,
[00:01:24] go ahead.
[00:01:31] Filling the shopping cart costs more than 1 million
[00:01:34] pesos, we will be at the
[00:01:38] central market so that together we can see how much
[00:01:41] things really cost, at least in the central
[00:01:44] market, also
[00:01:47] "Imbatibles" this topic, chat
[00:01:51] GPT revealed it, he was planning a
[00:01:54] criminal massacre in a school, everything was
[00:01:58] discovered even by the.
[00:02:00] involved, in a little while we'll tell you the particularity of
[00:02:04] this guy and what they found in his
[00:02:06] house,
[00:02:12] he killed out of jealousy, a
[00:02:13] ago. Uh, you know that with 19-year-old man, murdered
[00:02:16] his partner, another case of femicide,
[00:02:20] today on "Imbatibles" on the Crónica
[00:02:22] screen.
[00:02:30] It's a complicated issue for many people, uh, an economic
[00:02:34] issue, people are struggling to make
[00:02:38] ends meet, to meet all their obligations, there's
[00:02:42] a lot to pay and little money coming in, Melis, despite the fact that
[00:02:45] yesterday the inflation index was announced and it was a good number for the executive
[00:02:49] branch, because it's what they've been
[00:02:52] Uh, regarding trying to contain, in the common
[00:02:56] projects actually go in the direction of everything economy, the one we have to face every day when we open the fridge,
[00:02:58] when we have to put a plate of... food on the tables, we realize that that
[00:03:02] number doesn't correspond to what our
[00:03:05] income yields, if we are lucky enough to have one or more than one,
[00:03:09] exactly, here the issue is an issue
[00:03:12] that we all already know, understand, but it's always worth
[00:03:15] remembering, if you have your salary
[00:03:18] frozen and they don't increase it
[00:03:21] Can I ask as much as the things you have to pay for are increasing, your salary starts
[00:03:26] buy? A steering wheel to lose value, it starts to lose purchasing power in... So every
[00:03:30] month you can buy a little less with salaries like this, they don't
[00:03:34] keep up with inflation, that's what's happening, there are 50
[00:03:38] draft laws, 50 draft laws that were
[00:03:41] presented and referred to the committees to be able to de-indebt
[00:03:45] Argentine families, why? Because it's a reality, no matter how they try to
[00:03:49] tell us it is, but eight out of 10 Argentines are
[00:03:53] either with credit cards or with Fintech or with the
[00:03:57] neighborhood loan sharks, which translates into a real
[00:04:00] nightmare, you saw that this week some audios were leaked about
[00:04:04] how those who lend you money in the neighborhood
[00:04:08] operate and then demand it back, they pressure you until you go
[00:04:11] crazy, until you either threaten to eliminate
[00:04:14] yourself, commit suicide or you have to leave the
[00:04:17] neighborhood, they don't leave you in peace, the situation with that type of
[00:04:20] loans, with that type of
[00:04:24] loans from people who only have
[00:04:27] threats to charge you with
[00:04:30] and coercion of some kind, because their
[00:04:33] idea is not to sue you, it's not to demand payment through
[00:04:36] judicial means, it's to pressure the
[00:04:38] no, because they always had a person until they pay, it's worth saying that in developed
[00:04:42] countries annual inflation is 2-3%, in
[00:04:45] Argentina it
[00:04:49] continues to be 24 to 30%
[00:04:52] annually, that is, every time from January to December, to
[00:04:56] set a period of time, things
[00:04:58] we're going to see the price of fruits, increase by...
[00:05:08] I was thinking that the government's response to these issues,
[00:05:11] to the issue of debt, to the issue of the lack of
[00:05:15] money to buy the basics for Argentines, is the
[00:05:19] fall in purchasing power, it's never
[00:05:21] a solution for those people, it's always "well, whoever wanted to get into
[00:05:25] debt got into debt," nobody put a gun to their head, this is
[00:05:29] textual, I'm not making it up, so they get into debt, the
[00:05:32] government has said it, uh, we're not going to
[00:05:35] move from this place, 75% of Argentine money and
[00:05:39] Argentine debts are in banks, fintech are another thing. I mean,
[00:05:43] all responses that in reality are responses that kick
[00:05:46] the ball out of play, to put it simply, that don't offer a solution to
[00:05:50] people who today have a serious problem, among whom are young people and
[00:05:54] women. Welcome Caro Dovale, I see you're eager to speak today,
[00:05:57] Friday, do you have any debt in your life, Carito? And
[00:06:01] look, I have a credit card and logically, although I pay it every month
[00:06:05] and don't have debt, you also have to consider it as debt because you actually take on
[00:06:09] debt and pay it in 30 days, so I mean people who have credit cards
[00:06:12] say, "I don't have debt" even if you're up to date and pay the total, yes, you are in debt too.
[00:06:16] Oh, you're saying that because it's being financed.
[00:06:20] Exactly, that's why you have to be very careful and it's worth saying
[00:06:24] that if you have a credit card you can go into the bank's app
[00:06:27] and see how much you've been spending month to month so you don't overspend.
[00:06:31] Welcome, how are you? Good afternoon everyone, Gabriela, Mandato, how
[00:06:34] are you? Uh, many people also pay the minimum on their credit
[00:06:38] card and when you pay the minimum on your credit card
[00:06:41] that's when you really get into trouble, if you're paying the minimum and think
[00:06:45] everything is fine, check the papers
[00:06:48] carefully because when the statement comes, exactly,
[00:06:51] the sales will eat you alive, in 6 months
[00:06:55] you'll be heavily in debt, like people before the show, just now with Cristian Eche,
[00:06:59] hello Chris, welcome, we were having coffee and talking about how on
[00:07:02] some platforms if you lend money to the
[00:07:05] platform they pay you this,
[00:07:09] but if you ask for a loan they charge you
[00:07:11] this. That is, I understand that the platform takes the
[00:07:15] risk, I'm not being naive, but
[00:07:18] come on, it's not a crazy risk either, I'm going to say
[00:07:21] something, I'm going to say something, precisely you take a risk when you give money to the
[00:07:25] platform, because if at some point the platform doesn't respond to you, I'm going to
[00:07:29] tell you something, I won't say which one, it happened to me once that they stole my money from the
[00:07:32] platform, they stole my cell phone, because
[00:07:36] they know much more than we do how everything is protected, they took my money which was my
[00:07:40] savings, it was a lot of money, it was a risk that you take.
[00:07:55] The truth is that one sees that inflation can go down but prices don't. Today a typical family, to not
[00:07:59] be, to not be in poverty, has to earn more than 1,600, so that's important.
[00:08:04] what they are saying, some of the
[00:08:08] we are discussing here, for example, that the information is clear and
[00:08:12] available. Because if you can borrow money with just
[00:08:15] a button, nobody does a study on who they are
[00:08:19] really lending money to, nobody is evaluating if you have a job, if you have a way to
[00:08:23] pay it back, you press a button, they lend you a million pesos, let's
[00:08:26] say, but the information is not clear about what Gabi says, let's see,
[00:08:30] what is the rate, how much will I have to owe, what happens if I don't
[00:08:34] pay it back, and another issue has to do with our personal
[00:08:37] data, the management of our personal data, the platform doesn't call you
[00:08:41] to demand payment. It calls you a law firm, it calls
[00:08:44] you some guy you don't know, they end up
[00:08:48] harassing you to the point that people end up getting sick,
[00:08:52] going crazy because they might have asked the platform for 300,000 pesos
[00:08:55] and end up owing two million. Well, this not
[00:08:59] knowing what the movement you have is with respect
[00:09:02] to your job, your income or whatever, it's supposed, let's say
[00:09:06] that, it's supposed Meli that the analysis that a platform makes to lend you
[00:09:10] money is how you move.
[00:09:42] to the supermarket or maybe you go out in the neighborhood to
[00:09:45] buy an apple, a little something, what you consume, which is something
[00:09:49] very Argentine and the truth is I do it too, especially when I'm
[00:09:53] alone, how much does it fill, how much does it cost, sorry, to fill the
[00:09:57] shopping cart, for that we have Zorrito Ema in the central market
[00:10:00] live for "Imbatibles" on the Crónica screen,
[00:10:04] welcome Zorrito,
[00:10:07] thank you, Rulo, good afternoon, look, today
[00:10:11] vegetables and meat because we're in the central
[00:10:14] market and all that is everywhere, we're also going to talk to
[00:10:18] people to ask them how much they spend
[00:10:20] compared to their uh friendly store, let's go with
[00:10:25] the prices, for example, round
[00:10:28] tomato, 2 kg,
[00:10:31] 3000 pesos, 2 kg, that's cheap,
[00:10:35] they're good for Melina, sorry, Zorrito,
[00:10:39] sorry, sorry, we're going back and forth, because you know what, Melina
[00:10:43] is already seeing that here clearly, give me a
[00:10:47] second, this tomato, it's not
[00:10:49] good, you already saw it, this tomato,
[00:10:53] no wonder, guys.
[00:10:56] the pedestrian, let's see, ask the girl, I'm going to
[00:11:00] touch the tomato, come here, no, but I see it, let's see, there
[00:11:04] it is, how do you see it, I see
[00:11:06] it well, they're nice, they're
[00:11:09] nice, can I touch it? Touching the tomato, a
[00:11:12] tomato, it's good, eh, it's good, it's not what it seemed, it's
[00:11:16] good, for the salad
[00:11:18] it goes,
[00:11:21] color, uh, how much is the pear tomato,
[00:11:25] it's there, I saw it, 2 kg, 3000 also,
[00:11:29] the same, ah, okay, you're more of a pear person
[00:11:32] you, more, what good prices
[00:11:35] they have, I want to tell you that I feel like taking my car
[00:11:39] to the central
[00:11:40] market.
[00:11:44] Sorry, what happens if "Imbatibles" one day we go and buy for
[00:11:47] everyone? I'd love it, how
[00:11:51] do we divide it? It's a mess to buy. Well,
[00:11:55] no, Melina also needs 5 kg of everything, there are 18 in the
[00:11:58] house, and good eaters,
[00:12:02] starting with me, listen eh, I was going to put a garden,
[00:12:05] I'd save money if I put a business, a garden, I had so many kids, he said at one point
[00:12:09] I'll put a garden, I put the kids to make their own garden, more or less, you
[00:12:13] with something, clear, I always have to buy
[00:12:17] 2 kg of whatever it is, while we are
[00:12:20] in the central market we have Ismael
[00:12:23] economist. We're going to do a role play between Zorrito with the prices
[00:12:27] and Ismael, sorry, Bermúdez, welcome, "Imbatibles"
[00:12:31] on the Crónica screen, hello, how
[00:12:34] are you, good afternoon, how are you doing? Good,
[00:12:38] everything in order. Well, we're talking
[00:12:41] about the current economy of Argentines, debts,
[00:12:44] how much it costs to fill the fridge, where do
[00:12:48] you buy things, Emmanuel, Ismael,
[00:12:51] Ismael, well, I buy them near my neighborhood,
[00:12:55] logically, no. Uh, in different stores,
[00:12:58] logically trying to get the lowest
[00:13:02] prices, what happens is that I
[00:13:05] observed that there was a very strong increase in the
[00:13:08] prices of vegetables, in the prices
[00:13:11] of fruits and that coincides precisely
[00:13:15] with uh the Indec measurement which showed
[00:13:19] that uh with an inflation
[00:13:21] of 1.7%,
[00:13:23] the baskets that have to do with food
[00:13:27] and basic services increased
[00:13:29] by 2.6%, equally, that is,
[00:13:33] it's really not easy to save, you know that
[00:13:36] here we always try to leave that
[00:13:40] message that you have to look for prices, but doesn't it happen to you that you go out in the
[00:13:43] neighborhood and it doesn't vary that much either, it's not easy
[00:13:47] in your neighborhood for three, four, five blocks around, to make a
[00:13:50] good deal or make an intelligent purchase, it's hard to find
[00:13:54] good prices. Yes, it's hard to find good prices and above
[00:13:57] all this well, what happens is that
[00:14:01] the salary has lost a lot of purchasing power, pensions
[00:14:04] lost a lot of purchasing power due to the
[00:14:08] frozen bonus, this 7000 pesos bonus,
[00:14:11] it's a bonus that should now be at 230,000,
[00:14:15] 240,000 pesos and it's still at
[00:14:19] 70,000 from March 2024,
[00:14:21] uh,
[00:14:23] and well, it's done. It's very difficult, also depending
[00:14:27] on how the family structure is,
[00:14:30] sometimes there's a discount when buying in
[00:14:33] bulk, but since it's about perishable
[00:14:37] goods, you have to be careful because I buy
[00:14:41] 2 kg of mandarins, 2 kg of tomatoes,
[00:14:45] 2 kg of potatoes, etc., no, no, you have to go, you have to buy
[00:14:49] little by little, not in bulk, you have to
[00:14:52] buy
[00:15:30] almost dead,
[00:15:32] three thousand pesos, you can't make it last
[00:15:36] long.
[00:16:07] it's very
[00:16:07] good, and the
[00:16:15] bananas are rare, those pink ones are not very good,
[00:16:55] that.
[00:16:58] he said,
[00:17:01] I made his life complicated, no, it's fine, what's your
[00:17:04] name, García, Norberto, Norberto, how much
[00:17:07] does it cost to fill the shopping cart at the central market, tell the
[00:17:11] boss, the
[00:17:12] boss's wife,
[00:17:17] how are you, Amparo, good, but good, where are you from, from
[00:17:21] Ciudad Evita, the best city with the best name,
[00:17:25] how much does it cost to fill the shopping cart at the central market, I don't know because I don't come
[00:17:28] often, you don't come often, and today how much did you spend? I bought strawberries and
[00:17:32] avocados, put on the
[00:17:34] earphone,
[00:18:13] The mandarin is your favorite one, but what price
[00:18:16] difference do you see with the neighborhood store? Well,
[00:18:19] look, I'm telling you, in Ciudad Evita there are many greengrocers,
[00:18:23] so there's competition and the quality is
[00:18:27] good because they buy here, so
[00:18:31] since there's competition, there are
[00:18:33] good prices and good brands. And you, personally?
[00:18:38] Uh, have you changed any habits when it comes to shopping? No, and yes, we're
[00:18:41] retirees.
[00:18:43] And what item do you buy less of? And
[00:18:46] expenses, the expenses that could be afforded
[00:18:50] today. Before, luxuries like meat, maybe
[00:18:53] yes, meat is eaten more.
[00:19:34] No, only once, it's the first time, very good.
[00:19:51] Yes, all good, where are you from? From Morón, from Morón. Well, how do you see the
[00:19:54] prices? All cheap, all cheap. What are you going to buy? We're buying a
[00:19:58] little bit of everything. Very good. Well, let's see, do you buy
[00:20:02] meat here? No, no, it's the first, it's the first
[00:20:05] time, very good. How much can you spend? No, I don't know what we're going to
[00:20:08] spend, but it's for four. Sorry, Ismael just went to the
[00:20:12] relegation,
[00:20:18] make an intelligent
[00:20:19] purchase.
[00:20:25] because we left him waiting, he's a phenomenon, we thank him
[00:20:28] very much, this
[00:20:30] kiss.
[00:20:50] to see the neighborhoods comparing to the neighborhood pretty good, pretty good and what did you come to
[00:20:54] buy? Fruits and vegetables, very good, and
[00:20:58] for how many days? For how many weeks? One week, one week, and the
[00:21:01] budget for one week, how much is it? And
[00:21:04] it depends because we are a family of
[00:21:08] three, 60, 70 thousand pesos, I buy 2 kg,
[00:21:12] 3 kg like that, clear, 7000 pesos
[00:21:15] approximately, approximately, do you buy meat here
[00:21:18] too? No, not meat.
[00:23:42] because he's very affectionate and he likes the interviewees to be
[00:23:46] close because Crónica is firm
[00:23:48] with the people, all yours,
[00:23:51] always firm with the people, that's why I hug my
[00:24:45] steaks can you buy per week? Uh, now
[00:24:49] it's difficult, it's complicated, yes, it's complicated, you make it last, no,
[00:24:52] yes, more, very good. And where do you come to
[00:24:56] buy from? From Tablada, from Tablada.
[00:24:59] How often do you come to buy? Do you buy for 15 days, more or less? Every week, more or less.
[00:25:03] And how much do you spend? Uh,
[00:25:05] say 30, thousand,
[00:25:07] 40.
[00:25:10] We're three, three, three, yes, today living near the
[00:25:13] market.
[00:25:21] near the central market, how's it going, all good, how are the prices, how is it, and we are seeing that
[00:25:25] they are a little high today, but they came to buy as a family,
[00:25:29] outing to the central market, what price seems expensive to the guy, where are
[00:25:32] you from, we are from here from Loma del Mirador, what did you find
[00:25:36] expensive and what did you find cheap so far, prices always
[00:25:39] vary, but for example the
[00:25:42] artichoke seems to me, now, now, now he can't live without
[00:25:46] the 3 for 6000, it's in price, sometimes they sell you only one.
[00:25:50] price saying that two thousand today
[00:25:53] he thought that the prices were not cheap to me but sometimes they charge 5 each
[00:26:46] your name, Celeste, well, Celeste here, who's the one who says
[00:26:50] here, let's buy this, this this, you or the guy, no,
[00:26:54] both of us, both of us, both of us, yes, yes, very good, you have to be
[00:26:57] politically correct, no, exactly, while you give me a
[00:27:00] mate,
[00:27:03] tell me what prices you're liking so far, and the fruit, I like the
[00:27:06] prices, the strawberries, the blueberries, while I drink the mate,
[00:27:10] tell us, uh the prices, let's see, uh, the kilo
[00:27:13] 6000 pesos of strawberries, pear tomatoes 2 k