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[00:02:25] One minute past 3 in the
[00:02:28] afternoon, we reiterate
[00:02:30] on the Crónica screen with Ricardo Vale, Gabriela
[00:02:33] Mandato. Desperate search for
[00:02:36] Maximiliano.
[00:02:42] items. And as He went to the dump to look for aluminum to sell, also
[00:02:44] copper, but nothing has been known about him for
[00:02:48] 13 days.
[00:02:51] We are talking with Susana and with
[00:02:54] also with his
[00:02:56] family all beforehand.
[00:03:07] is possible according to Attention because we are looking for him, as we told you, 13
[00:03:11] days have passed and nothing is known about Maximiliano.
[00:03:15] Susana, his mother, knows nothing. There we
[00:03:18] have Brenda. Brenda is pregnant,
[00:03:21] she also has a daughter with Maxi, and
[00:03:24] obviously they want to know his
[00:03:28] have, to understand well you're in a system that's only in whereabouts. They spoke yesterday with the prosecutor. What can be done, how can we
[00:03:32] help from here, Bren, because the truth is that the situation of not
[00:03:35] knowing anything
[00:03:38] at 4, 4:00 AM is desperate.
[00:03:41] more public attention to see if in one way or another they can find him, search in the field, which
[00:03:46] was going to materialize or not, but the truth is what is what we are fighting so hard for, that they search in the
[00:03:48] field and that they help us with the machines too.
[00:03:52] Okay, that they search in that field, because probably
[00:03:55] now in the court or people close
[00:03:58] to the investigation must... Well,
[00:04:04] works because we see it in
[00:04:10] let's see, Prosecutor's Office number two is working, and
[00:04:13] Héctor, to clearly the family is demanding new measures. Let's remember that since he is an
[00:04:15] adult, not as much focus is put on it as if it were a
[00:04:19] go scavenging can enter, because you can't minor. So they do a 48-hour search and
[00:04:22] then clearly the search fades away. That's why the family
[00:04:25] demonstrated in front of UFI number two to demand new measures to search
[00:04:29] control. They are searching in these very extensive fields,
[00:04:32] Brenda. A question,
[00:04:36] did your partner have debt
[00:04:40] problems? Do you know if anyone
[00:04:42] this,
[00:04:45] one is perfect what any fight, any confrontation, any previous
[00:04:49] threat?
[00:04:51] little scarf he wore, not of No, no, because we would have taken it
[00:04:54] that way, if it had been, if it were like that
[00:04:56] towards somewhere, I don't know, I guide myself a lot with we would have taken it that way, but no, uh-huh.
[00:05:00] Because there was the version that he had a
[00:05:03] disagreement with someone uh and that
[00:05:06] they might have accidentally met at the
[00:05:09] dump suddenly
[00:05:11] it was mentioned. With someone there at the dump. No, no,
[00:05:15] no, that, uh, that was a long
[00:05:19] time ago that they had problems, but a long time. But what was that
[00:05:22] problem about?
[00:05:24] They went back. What was that
[00:05:28] problem about?
[00:05:30] Things, their street problems like that, things because
[00:05:34] they are drinking and those things, but then they
[00:05:37] made up, they met at the dump,
[00:05:41] they always went
[00:05:58] because they were drunk and then they made up because they are friends. We also shouldn't base the whole
[00:06:02] investigation on the other kid who fought once drunk being
[00:06:05] guilty of something. There's something that doesn't add up for me from
[00:06:08] any point of view, and it's the lack of searches
[00:06:11] in the field, especially considering it's an area
[00:06:15] with municipalities involved, because if it were a
[00:06:19] private place, I can understand that the owner might not want to, for example, I'm not saying that in a private
[00:06:22] place the owner would say, "No, they can't enter my land, I don't want to, I'll stop here, I'll
[00:06:26] allow the police to go up to a certain point." But if the
[00:06:29] dump is municipal, I don't understand why the search isn't
[00:06:33] done in that whole field, no matter how big
[00:06:36] it is. Another thing, another thing
[00:06:40] also that...
[00:06:42] That when we went to search the family, there was
[00:06:46] a camera
[00:06:47] in front
[00:06:50] where the machines pass, where the trucks pass. When the
[00:06:53] prosecutor goes to look for the cameras, they first tell her
[00:06:57] that the cameras didn't exist and then they told her that yes,
[00:07:00] there were cameras but they weren't working because there was no
[00:07:03] internet. Ah well, a
[00:07:06] contradiction in whether there were
[00:07:09] cameras or not. They didn't use dogs, but yes, yes.
[00:07:12] No dogs, it's that the investigation wasn't done in any
[00:07:15] way. Of course, they want drones, I mean, more
[00:07:19] sophisticated things, I mean, in general this is how it is in Córdoba.
[00:07:23] In general, in San Luis, the searches, that type of thing,
[00:07:26] are you aware that it's common for them to do all
[00:07:30] this that you ask
[00:07:32] for?
[00:07:35] Yes, because recently a 3-year-old girl got lost and they used all the
[00:07:39] resources and in two or three days the girl appeared, thank God.
[00:07:44] Being a minor, are they very far
[00:07:46] from the dump where they are now, Brenda? Yes, but it has nothing to do
[00:07:50] with whether they are a minor or an adult, because he has
[00:07:53] children, he has family. I understand you perfectly.
[00:07:56] Plus you're having a baby and I'm not telling you that. I mean that
[00:08:00] maybe they move differently when they are minors, which shouldn't be
[00:08:04] like that, but we are just telling you how justice
[00:08:06] is.
[00:08:08] just so you know. What do you think, what's your gut feeling? What
[00:08:12] do you think could have happened? What do you think
[00:08:15] happened? And I believe and
[00:08:19] I feel that he is in the field, I don't know if he is well or
[00:08:22] unwell, meaning that he is still there and no one saw him in the field.
[00:08:26] Are you far, Brenda, at this moment from that
[00:08:29] place? Yes.
[00:08:31] Okay. Okay, okay, because the truth is we want,
[00:08:35] well, that there is no one looking for him at this moment, that there is no one
[00:08:38] there, that there is no camera that has an image.
[00:08:45] I don't know, it's very strange, very strange. Everything is hurt and can't be moved, that's why I was
[00:08:48] also thinking about the cold because mom said they left on a very cold dawn
[00:08:52] uh injured. Did he have drug
[00:08:55] addiction problems, Brenda?
[00:08:57] Of drugs?
[00:09:00] Uh, that day, when he went to the pit, they had told him
[00:09:03] that they had given him wine with pills. That's why we think he
[00:09:07] is disoriented there in the pit because we believe
[00:09:10] he got messed up walking among all the shacks that are
[00:09:14] there. Let's see, let's see so many paths, because I went to see
[00:09:17] because I didn't know there either when I went to look for him. We were
[00:09:21] looking and there are many paths and that takes you
[00:09:25] all around the pit and the pit is huge
[00:09:29] and the field around is also huge and there are
[00:09:32] paths everywhere. Yes, I'm worried about this
[00:09:36] giant field that is difficult to
[00:09:39] leave, I understand what you're saying. Brenda,
[00:09:43] of course I back you, because I don't know the place, I must tell you, Brenda, that
[00:09:46] I always say this, I say what I really think, I don't want to be
[00:09:50] complaisant with you, I feel that in 13 days, if
[00:09:54] you are lost and hungry, even more, in one or two days you
[00:09:57] head in one direction, and if you have a little intuition and see where
[00:10:01] the sun rises and where the sun sets, you can already know which is east,
[00:10:05] west and head
[00:10:09] the compass thing.
[00:10:12] You don't see that, I don't know if you do, but it's always good to
[00:10:16] know where you are located,
[00:10:19] to locate yourself when you are in a remote place, that's
[00:10:23] good, but it's important. Why do you insist that maybe he couldn't
[00:10:26] get out?
[00:10:30] Because he's disoriented from drinking, from drinking alcohol and
[00:10:34] taking pills, you go one way, you
[00:10:37] fall asleep, you had two days, two days
[00:10:40] awake, but Brandy, listen to me,
[00:10:44] I understand that
[00:10:47] this could have been the origin, okay, if you're
[00:10:50] very messed up, you're very
[00:10:54] overboard... Everything you could go overboard with, well, okay,
[00:10:57] you fall and you find
[00:11:00] yourself, but when you wake up, you say, after 48 hours, you start from
[00:11:03] scratch, obviously you react, but when you react, you
[00:11:07] don't remember anything. Oh,
[00:11:09] well, I don't know, I don't know, Bren, what she says is that maybe he woke up after
[00:11:13] the whole thing passed. Let's be clear, he fell asleep,
[00:11:17] exhausted, he wakes up, all hungover and
[00:11:21] suddenly he says, I don't know where I am, but your body cleans itself. We are
[00:11:28] on
[00:11:33] seeing here
[00:11:38] screen a map of the place and above all
[00:11:41] not of the complete field as Brenda explains, but we are seeing the central
[00:11:45] place, which is the dump where he went to collect
[00:11:49] aluminum and copper with a friend. Look, this
[00:11:53] is the map that we have made here to
[00:11:56] understand route 7 towards San Luis, precisely.
[00:12:00] Look to the east, I said, it's good when you
[00:12:04] enter a giant place to more or less understand and ask Brenda where the sun
[00:12:07] sets. Let's see, seeing this
[00:12:11] spectacular map prepared by Cristian with the production, I'm concerned about the
[00:12:14] route because it's a provincial road where there could
[00:12:18] have been trucks now transiting at 5 or 4 in the
[00:12:21] morning, darkness, uh, you know, if you.
[00:12:25] A person intoxicated and drugged,
[00:12:28] but an accident would have appeared, I want Meli to compare it with the San Luis case that
[00:12:32] remember?
[00:12:34] Some kind of accident, some kind of accident would have been seen, first
[00:12:38] there are the cameras and we are still waiting for the answer from the cameras,
[00:12:41] after 13 days they don't have cameras, they didn't show them
[00:12:45] the cameras, well, let's see, excuse me, Brenda, I'm going
[00:12:48] to say this, I take responsibility myself, the truth is that it seems like there are
[00:12:52] people who disappear who are first-class, who deserve quick
[00:12:56] action from the state and people who seem second-class,
[00:12:59] drunk, cardboard picking garbage and
[00:13:03] alcoholic, well, what do I know, we'll see later when we look for him, we'll see
[00:13:07] what solution we give the family. You know that just
[00:13:10] yesterday, the National Congress talked about this
[00:13:13] famous method and system for searching for people, the
[00:13:16] SIFEBU, they were explaining how the
[00:13:19] SIFEBU works. Tell me,
[00:13:22] your partner is he listed
[00:13:25] in any official record as a missing person,
[00:13:29] wanted? Let's look for this guy in the SIFEBU, and the other thing I want to
[00:13:33] ask you, is his brother who went with him to the dump there with
[00:13:36] you? Fabricio, is Fabricio at
[00:13:39] home? No, he's not. It could be a
[00:13:43] odd job, because we need to talk to Fabricio. Fabricio, Fabricio is the
[00:13:46] last one who saw him, what does he remember? That
[00:13:50] detail, that exact detail, Meli, the last person who saw him, we don't know
[00:13:54] yet. You don't know. If there was someone who perhaps saw him before and perhaps
[00:13:57] not, but he went, but mom Susi tells us that he leaves
[00:14:03] from the house, both very drunk, and they go to the
[00:14:06] dump. She tells them, "No guys, don't go out, it's freezing, don't go out, and
[00:14:10] also you're not in condition to go to the dump," and they went anyway. The last
[00:14:13] one who sees him is Fabricio, but one comes back and the other
[00:14:17] doesn't. Exactly, this is like
[00:14:21] when he when my husband goes to
[00:14:24] sleep at 10 in the field, which would be where the
[00:14:27] shacks are, my brother-in-law stays collecting garbage
[00:14:31] there, he stays collecting aluminum, everything, and my brother-in-law sees him go down because
[00:14:35] on the side of the dump there's a descent that's like a
[00:14:38] street, and on the other side there's the entrance and exit that people who
[00:14:44] enter the main entrance, only machines and trucks enter.
[00:14:47] Anyway, Brenda,
[00:14:51] for us it's a priority that he appears or that something is known, that the cameras appear,
[00:14:55] a record, because if something happened to him, we would also have to have
[00:14:59] some indication that something happened to him, uh, if an
[00:15:01] animal attacked him, we would have found
[00:15:05] something to be able to detect it. Evidently he fell into a
[00:15:08] pit somewhere, they didn't look for him, there's no record of anything, there's
[00:15:12] no record of anything, not even a
[00:15:16] the basket, not of a sock, nothing,
[00:15:19] no shoe, nothing, nothing at all. No nothing, Brenda,
[00:15:22] thank you, we'll keep working on this. A big hello to all the family, your
[00:15:26] daughter, your unborn baby, to Susi, your mother-in-law.
[00:15:30] Thank you. Thank you very much, see you
[00:15:33] next time, we'll keep working on it, there are more topics here on Imbatibles on
[00:15:36] Crónica, look what happened, 3:
[00:15:39] 15 in the afternoon, breaking
[00:15:42] news,
[00:15:48] teenager planned a school
[00:15:51] massacre. time to turn up the
[00:15:55] volume. The kid is 15 years old, he wanted to kill all
[00:15:58] his classmates. But listen to the outcome of this
[00:16:02] story. He told it to Chat
[00:16:04] GPT and the FBI. Yes,
[00:16:07] yes, you're reading correctly, it detected him, as
[00:16:11] it should, exactly, the
[00:16:13] FBI.
[00:16:15] Well, this happened in our country, that's why you are
[00:16:19] seeing a photo of the Argentine Federal
[00:16:22] Police. As you know, Chat
[00:16:26] GPT is a system that you can
[00:16:29] ask questions and it answers in real time. I'll tell
[00:16:32] you on the other side who maybe have never used it in your life. You say "hello
[00:16:36] chat" and it answers, "hello, how are you, how
[00:16:39] are you?" In fact, this wasn't planned, but maybe we
[00:16:43] can ask the chat at some point, yes, if it knows about
[00:16:47] the case of this kid who
[00:16:50] uh, look, I have my phone here, I just opened the Chat
[00:16:54] GPT app, and I'm going to ask it, look,
[00:16:57] ask it, yes, hello chat, hello chat, good afternoon, how
[00:17:00] are you? Hello, I'm
[00:17:03] happy to chat with you, what, what can I tell you?
[00:17:07] to know or what are you thinking about? Look chat, I want to
[00:17:10] ask you something, there's a case in Argentina of a 15-year-old
[00:17:14] boy who wanted to kill his classmates, you told him to
[00:17:18] Chat GPT and it ended up involving the FBI,
[00:17:22] the Argentine Federal Police, do you have information about this
[00:17:25] matter? Give me a second, I'm
[00:17:29] checking it. It's
[00:17:31] checking. According to several media outlets, a 15-year-old boy
[00:17:35] from Quilmes would have
[00:17:37] talked to Chat GPT about his intention to carry out a
[00:17:41] school shooting. That conversation generated an
[00:17:45] alert that led to US
[00:17:47] authorities and according to what was published, the
[00:17:51] FBI alerted the Argentine authorities, you can
[00:17:54] ask and the federal police identified the
[00:17:58] minor, justice ordered a search warrant at his house, I'll
[00:18:01] interrupt you because I do the program with Merina Fleiderman who is anxious to ask
[00:18:05] you a question, do you have any problem with this?
[00:18:11] In that raid, they seized cell phones, tactical gloves,
[00:18:15] camouflage clothing, balaclavas, and other
[00:18:19] reported, the attack was originally planned for
[00:18:22] 2027, although the
[00:18:26] young man, they say, had considered moving it
[00:18:29] forward. You realize this
[00:18:33] tool is spectacular, it just told us, uh, what
[00:18:37] happened with this case. The issue is that all the data that we
[00:18:41] upload to artificial intelligence, whatever it may be, is not ours, it doesn't
[00:18:45] belong to us. That data is linked
[00:18:48] to all the archives of all the police forces in the world, because that's how it works, because technological
[00:18:52] police forces also use all of this and
[00:18:55] have issued alert systems. Yes, because it must also be
[00:18:59] understood that the chat is international, I mean, when you have Chat GPT, it's not that
[00:19:04] Argentina, that's why the FBI is the first to find it. Alert, of course,
[00:19:08] because
[00:19:11] they also have their own artificial intelligence and they ask
[00:19:14] it to track in real time for threats
[00:19:17] in this case. We don't know if this
[00:19:20] threat
[00:19:24] the chat told us and what Cris
[00:19:27] our other chat will tell us, you didn't run out of
[00:19:30] work. No.
[00:19:33] That's what they found this 15-year-old boy in
[00:19:37] his house. I mean, if he was actually
[00:19:40] planning a school massacre, we don't know, luckily
[00:19:43] the police gave credit to this, they
[00:19:47] raided his house and what did they find? Well,
[00:19:50] the US Embassy, uh, through the FBI, notifies the Argentine
[00:19:53] Federal Police. The Argentine Federal Police raids, there we are seeing precisely how
[00:19:57] the PFA enters. They find two cell phones, they find
[00:20:01] balaclavas, they find tactical gloves, everything, they
[00:20:05] don't find firearms, uh, they don't find any type of
[00:20:07] firearm, they don't find grenades, nothing. Now, this is the danger of what is also said about
[00:20:11] how Chat GPT can be a great, uh, let's
[00:20:14] see, I don't know, you want to make a homemade bomb in your
[00:20:16] house,
[00:20:19] if I'm going to say one thing,
[00:20:23] happened, really good that this type of thing can be alerted
[00:20:27] and even more so because it has access to children. Now, how
[00:20:30] crazy that one believes they are talking to something that will never leave there, that
[00:20:34] is like a confession, people listen.
[00:20:44] a lot of information that, beware, I mean, you understand me, I mean for good and for bad
[00:20:47] it's important. with Chat GPT and you tell it that
[00:20:51] you cheated on your girlfriend and
[00:20:55] you tell it about a conflict you had with a family member member, but if you tell Chat GPT that
[00:20:59] your intention is to burn down the school, obviously
[00:21:03] Chat will be alerted because you are telling it something very serious, I have
[00:21:06] plans to kill someone, Chat will not
[00:21:09] help you. Well, the best way to do it is like this, it will
[00:21:13] alert the police. You have an advantage, excuse me Meli, regarding
[00:21:16] previous technologies, I mean, not when you only had
[00:21:20] search engines that didn't have artificial intelligence in the terms we
[00:21:23] know today. The progress, uh, the issue was
[00:21:27] later, I mean, there was an
[00:21:32] whatever it was, a murder, an
[00:21:34] explosion, whatever. Today, September 11th, I mean, the
[00:21:38] bombs that were placed, the two attacks against the Twin Towers, they
[00:21:42] crashed. You would find among the responsible
[00:21:45] searches in Google or in any other search engine that
[00:21:49] said how
[00:21:58] absolutely. We're going to ask Hector Mucio, who is
[00:22:01] connected with us and is already a panelist on Imbatibles.
[00:22:05] Hector, welcome to Imbatibles on Crónica TV. How are
[00:22:08] you, hello Musio?
[00:22:11] Pleasure, so I avoid saying "nice to meet
[00:22:13] you" every
[00:22:16] time.
[00:22:20] How nice, listen Hector, it's Hector's column, nice to
[00:22:24] meet you, Hector, listen to me,
[00:22:27] I want to understand this tool, what do you think about what happened? Because it's a
[00:22:31] very good topic to analyze as well. Does Chat
[00:22:34] GPT betray at some point
[00:22:37] that user who
[00:22:40] at some point thinks they are telling it something that it won't tell anyone?
[00:22:44] It alerts the FBI and the FBI
[00:22:46] quickly sends an alert. Sorry, I'm very happy to
[00:22:50] know that if the FBI connects with the federal police, they pay attention and do
[00:22:54] it. I think it's a significant fact
[00:22:57] and should be taken into account. There's someone here who attends to an FBI
[00:23:01] type and tells him you have to go to such address and take care of
[00:23:05] this case. What do you think, Hector? In reality
[00:23:08] this is both sides of technology,
[00:23:12] bad guys also have technology, but in some way this is working
[00:23:16] in concert, in harmony with all forces. Before, when
[00:23:20] I was a police officer, we had the police agreement which was all
[00:23:23] more analog, we had to send a messenger pigeon, today everything is
[00:23:26] interconnected and in some way everything is recorded on the
[00:23:30] cell phone through which you are watching me, that
[00:23:34] we are communicating, we have more technology than when man arrived with Apollo 11 on the
[00:23:38] moon on that July 20th, 69, so
[00:23:41] imagine that technology and working in concert so that the FBI
[00:23:44] communicates here with the federal force or in this case the Argentine
[00:23:48] federal police. Which has high technology to handle this
[00:23:52] type of cases and in some way they achieve the search warrant and a
[00:23:55] positive search warrant that will end up with this
[00:23:58] young man being charged under article 211 of the penal code, which is public intimidation, which is not
[00:24:02] bailable. Hector, what does the
[00:24:05] FBI have in its possession, in its
[00:24:08] knowledge, to
[00:24:11] credit an alert that is automatically
[00:24:15] emitted on a server in the
[00:24:18] world's forum that are us? I'm not going to
[00:24:22] be, look Meli, your appreciation is excellent and very pertinent. I'm not going to
[00:24:25] teach a school for criminals, we explain this in university,
[00:24:29] many times with cybercrimes, with cyberattacks, how to
[00:24:32] prevent them. In principle, uh, there's something called
[00:24:35] software and that software is hyper, hyper
[00:24:38] advanced that the FBI has and in some
[00:24:41] way they can communicate, as you said,
[00:24:45] with that tiny, small grain that we are on the planet.
[00:24:48] Exactly. Now, this, this, this
[00:24:54] espionage movies or we see it especially in squads
[00:24:58] that are more advanced in searching the
[00:25:00] networks, that evidently there are automatic
[00:25:04] alert systems that international security forces
[00:25:07] have, and they have to give credit to some, because, well,
[00:25:11] any idiot who puts on Google or tells the chat that they want to do
[00:25:15] something bad, evidently it won't activate a million-dollar alert to the
[00:25:18] FBI, the FBI to... here here they end up
[00:25:21] raiding him, uh, there must have been more than one indication. We are
[00:25:25] telling it this way because it is the part that we know, but there must have
[00:25:28] been more than one indication to give credit and follow-up to this character,
[00:25:32] they must have cyber-patrolled him, of course,
[00:25:36] of course, in the jargon it is said they eat
[00:25:39] his Facebook, his Instagram, that is, somehow
[00:25:43] you have a report, an alert and that is perhaps continuous
[00:25:47] or perhaps not, so there begins the follow-up. All this
[00:25:50] software tracking starts the follow-up here the federal police has it,
[00:25:53] the city police has it too, here they work
[00:25:57] in concert with other police communities, so
[00:26:00] somehow this is what it gives off.
[00:26:03] precisely that follow-up is communicated to the justice system and the justice system
[00:26:06] orders the raid and this positive raid
[00:26:09] pardon one thing, I'll close with this, since on this
[00:26:13] side there's a 15-year-old boy, not a spy who
[00:26:16] planned an attack against an
[00:26:20] institutional target, uh, I mean, whoever
[00:26:23] it was, surely didn't speak cryptically, they spoke
[00:26:26] plainly with the chat about the visceral hatred they felt for their
[00:26:30] schoolmates and what they planned.
[00:26:45] I mean, of course, many people think that this is very confidential and that
[00:26:49] when you talk to a chat
[00:26:53] absolutely no one finds out, no one is listening to us and then they say, "Look,
[00:26:56] I actually have a million dollars in such an account in such a place, I'm
[00:27:00] talking improbably."
[00:27:02] No, but anyway, it doesn't matter, let's say there's someone who has aggregated something
[00:27:06] and says, "They're listening to me," and
[00:27:09] yes, well, even when you upload a photo, what
[00:27:11] do you say,
[00:27:14] the little photo from the 80s, you're uploading your
[00:27:17] you write in your
[00:27:21] device, they are reading, listening, therefore,
[00:27:24] he who owes nothing, fears nothing,
[00:27:27] they say, what do I mean by this, the question is for good
[00:27:30] evil, let's see, what I feel is that...
[00:27:33] I feel that there is a protection that no one
[00:27:37] will expose you because you are
[00:27:40] talking to an ex-boyfriend, but if you are
[00:27:43] saying in a chat, by mail or thousands of permanent alerts, the
[00:27:47] someone,"
[00:27:50] I asked Héctor about something
[00:27:53] the Canary Islands, I don't know, something that maybe
[00:27:57] the state can get involved in, but that would be like looking for a
[00:28:00] crime, uh. to do with taxes, I don't know
[00:28:04] if
[00:28:07] there has to be, there has to be a prior complaint, a prior investigation
[00:28:10] in the economic criminal jurisdiction in order
[00:28:14] and so on, that's another case, there was none of that,
[00:28:17] it was the possible commission of a
[00:28:20] crime,
[00:28:22] clear, let's go, I'm going to kill my classmates, that generated the
[00:28:26] investigation,
[00:28:28] it generates fear, it generates fear, that's why it's typified in article
[00:28:32] 211, which has an expectation of up to 6 years of
[00:28:35] two to six, so this young man will
[00:28:38] be detained, so they know. Héctor, now joining in on what
[00:28:42] Gabi was also saying, I mean, to alert cases, for example, maybe it's happening,
[00:28:46] but I don't know, that's why I'm asking you, cases of kids who
[00:28:49] are depressed and want to commit suicide and are telling the chat that they're not
[00:28:53] having a good time, I mean, this can also be prevented, I don't know, maybe
[00:28:57] alert a group of doctors, psychiatrists, psychologists. Yes,
[00:29:01] as long as it's configured for that purpose, and this is very good what you're saying,
[00:29:04] taking into account that it's one more possibility to save a life, everything
[00:29:10] what one looks for on social media, no, it doesn't
[00:29:12] happen, now Héctor, how are you, dear? That doesn't
[00:29:16] happen, I'm going to say hello, I want to commit suicide, it gives you
[00:29:20] a phone number and but it doesn't happen that they come
[00:29:23] to your house, none of that, no, well, we're talking about cyber-patrolling,
[00:29:27] we're talking about a person who must
[00:29:31] what is excellent, if a kid puts
[00:29:34] "I want to commit suicide", the question is, does the 911 come? Does an
[00:29:37] ambulance come? Well, probably not because maybe they've
[00:29:41] tried.
[00:29:43] Maybe there's a statistic that the number of people who say "I'm going to commit suicide" later, or maybe
[00:29:47] they don't do it, it doesn't happen, but this is something serious. Listen, I don't
[00:29:51] think there are many kids in Argentina today who are asking the
[00:29:54] chat how to kill all their classmates. We're
[00:29:58] confusing, sorry, for me, uh, I don't want to
[00:30:00] correct, but one thing. is a crime like a school
[00:30:04] massacre, for which the United States has a particular alert because
[00:30:08] they know better than anyone, nod, so they can also
[00:30:11] issue a kind of triage that helps us,
[00:30:15] diversify when to give credit and when not to, now and
[00:30:19] another thing is mental health, for mental health, chat
[00:30:23] GPT cannot take
[00:30:26] even and they were looking at startups
[00:30:30] dedicated to that, yes. No, we are talking about a very serious
[00:30:34] crime like a school massacre, the United
[00:30:37] States must have surely thousands, thousands,
[00:30:40] same as for international
[00:30:43] attacks, if there is a, I don't want to stigmatize
[00:30:46] a person X anywhere in the world, it doesn't matter, any
[00:30:50] conflictive region of the world, that is also asking ChatGPT
[00:30:54] very specific information on how to design a
[00:30:57] remote attack for a.