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[00:00:00] Good evening. How are you, Tomás Méndez? First of all,
[00:00:03] for me it's an honor to talk to you, I tell you as a journalist, as a colleague, as a human being.
[00:00:07] Thank you, I know what you did, well, I appreciate it previously and currently,
[00:00:11] it's a privilege for me to talk to
[00:00:13] investigate something that is so simple, it's the capital of you.
[00:00:16] This is not a crazy person, this is not a
[00:00:18] hypothesis, none should be discarded, but I lean more towards crazy person, I also thought it was a crazy person, this is not a crazy person. He's not
[00:00:21] crazy at all.
[00:00:24] Before, before I want to say some things that I had other mobile phones and I didn't have the opportunity to say it,
[00:00:28] prosecutor's office is supposedly overwhelmed by uh, my. my biggest fear is
[00:00:31] that this will be taken as a minor crime, like vandalism or something
[00:00:34] like that, that my car and the car
[00:00:38] here, this is my car,
[00:00:42] both, as you can see, I just counted the steps, uh, my car is
[00:00:46] 7 meters from my bedroom window, you can see it,
[00:00:49] well, both have gas tanks, if one of the two gas tanks
[00:00:52] exploded, it's most likely
[00:00:56] I wouldn't even have woken up to know it, so
[00:00:59] the more I investigate, the angrier I get, the more disappointed I get, I also
[00:01:03] want to talk about the prosecutor's office, I want to talk about the
[00:01:05] prosecutor's office because sorry if you want to interrupt me, no problem, but I had several
[00:01:09] mobile phones, I didn't say this and I don't want to miss this opportunity that is very important to me,
[00:01:13] this happened yesterday at 5
[00:01:16] I filed in the prosecutor's office yesterday, because what to 8 in the morning, the prosecutor's office opens at 8, you hear me, right? Yes, yes, yes, perfect,
[00:01:20] perfect, perfect, the prosecutor's office opens at 8, I
[00:01:23] was already at the prosecutor's office at 8:10, I had already filed the complaint, why did I go to
[00:01:26] the prosecutor's office? I have all the papers here,
[00:01:29] people who work as a team, what I can tell firefighters, police, prosecutor's office, if you want I'll show you, what I asked for at
[00:01:32] the prosecutor's office, I asked for one thing, that they come
[00:01:36] and start asking for the cameras from the neighbors, the main cameras, from the
[00:01:39] stores, from everything, from everything, uh, today I was
[00:01:42] going around, Manuel, Manuel, you know that we have a recording from a previous
[00:01:45] report about car burnings there in your place, in your neighborhood, uh,
[00:01:49] uh, we accessed the phone of one of them, and in
[00:01:53] the phone, these things came out, but you're going to hear how they
[00:01:57] organize, which is impressive.
[00:02:00] they warn not only to burn cars, but to kill
[00:02:03] people, they hire, they talk, they talk at gas
[00:02:07] stations, you have to pay them so much to kill such a guy, he was
[00:02:10] a fugitive until recently, two years ago he started
[00:02:14] to be a fugitive, a month
[00:02:17] these issues, that the lack of ago, two months ago they caught the guy, he surrendered, I don't know exactly, but they are
[00:02:19] very important gangs, let's listen Manuel listen, listen, go ahead, this is how
[00:02:23] it starts,
[00:02:27] friend, come, come, I have a goal,
[00:02:30] "come, we're going to do pyrotechnics, look, they put a camera at the
[00:02:33] door of the union, uh, inside the door because they stored
[00:02:37] the car because they were afraid we would set it on fire, so whatever you have to
[00:02:41] do, uh you have to
[00:02:43] put on a hood you have to put on a hood, well, there
[00:02:46] it is, there it is, you see, they tell you the two things you said, Luja, first you have to
[00:02:50] put on a hood, you put on a visor, be careful, there are cameras, they do
[00:02:53] intelligence to see if there are cameras or not, that's why they put on the
[00:02:57] visor, but they have targets, be careful, eh, they know perfectly
[00:03:00] where they are going to go and why they are going to do it, and eight cars clearly in their message from
[00:03:04] different areas because if you take the eight cars from the same block, you'll say, well, that's
[00:03:08] fine, but here there's a message, exactly, now what is that message? What is it, Manuel? Is it a
[00:03:11] message for you, for whom is it? No, for me, I don't think
[00:03:15] so, for me, I don't think so, what, look, what I started talking about today with other neighbors
[00:03:19] is that a very large parking garage is about to open
[00:03:22] here, who would benefit, who would benefit from no one being able to
[00:03:26] leave their car on the sidewalk?
[00:03:30] Look, another thing, uh, there's a parking garage
[00:03:33] nearby, uh, I used to park my car there a long
[00:03:37] time ago because it was closed, my family and I stopped parking there when the
[00:03:41] cardboard not accelerating very strange that, they put it on papers from the glove compartment disappeared, so well, uh, it wouldn't be, it wouldn't be
[00:03:44] new if it's this parking garage, nothing this
[00:03:47] we started talking about today among the neighbors
[00:03:51] and well, I also want to make it clear that the prosecutor's office failed because I went early
[00:03:55] to ask them to request cameras, to review the cameras, they didn't talk to anyone and
[00:03:59] you know what happens, Tomás, you must know that the vast majority of cameras, the
[00:04:03] domestic ones, have 24 hours of recording, depending on the hard drive,
[00:04:06] once a day has passed, you can't recover it anymore, besides
[00:04:09] a day and a half passed and they didn't ask anyone, anyone if there's a
[00:04:13] camera, it's very strange, Manuel, it's very strange that here I also go back to what
[00:04:17] Leonardo was saying a while ago, that is, if you don't have
[00:04:21] uh, the desire to investigate or it's negligence or it's
[00:04:24] business, I intuit that if there are eight vehicles, there's something, there's
[00:04:28] a gang, there's something that... moves, clearly, there's
[00:04:32] something moving behind this that I don't honestly
[00:04:35] believe, these are hypotheses that Manuel throws out and it's great and he took it because he knows
[00:04:39] more than I do about what he's living there, so I can't tell him what
[00:04:43] it is, but he says it could be commercial interests of a parking
[00:04:46] lot and I think this is much bigger if the prosecutor's office is giving
[00:04:50] him impunity, you know what the prosecutor's office has to do? Open
[00:04:53] agondona, open, the thing is you talk if
[00:04:56] not, if, go ahead, Manuel, does the insurance pay for all this? The
[00:05:00] cars that caught fire there,
[00:05:03] does the insurance recognize it? How are
[00:05:06] you? It should, it's obligated, it's
[00:05:10] obligated, I have insurance, I have everything in order. I just hope they
[00:05:13] comply with what was signed, but well, you know how insurance companies are, they're not
[00:05:17] idiots, so until I see the money, I'm never going to say everything
[00:05:21] is closed, what is the risk of a vehicle catching fire like that, the way Manuel just said,
[00:05:24] "I sleep 7 meters from the vehicle," the vehicle had
[00:05:28] a gas tank, so it couldn't
[00:05:30] explode.
[00:05:35] That's malicious destruction, the prosecutor's office should gather the
[00:05:39] eight cars on fire and investigate them together. You know what
[00:05:42] they're going to do? They're going to investigate the eight separately and they won't reach any conclusion, and why, why
[00:05:46] the eight separately? Because that's what they usually do, they take the isolated facts instead
[00:05:50] of putting them together to avoid seeing who the real criminal is, no,
[00:05:54] but then you can add it up, you can add it up, because if it's the same person, it adds up, but you're
[00:05:58] right, Leonardo, if you, yes, I understand you can add it up, but you have to have
[00:06:02] the same type directing the investigation, the investigation has
[00:06:05] clear, exactly, there's a common pattern, eight cars in different blocks, the
[00:06:09] common pattern is that there are people who are doing this for a reason. You have to find out
[00:06:13] why and then what the crime is, no, the message that the one who is going to put a parking lot sent
[00:06:16] doesn't make sense to me, honestly,
[00:06:20] it would be too crude, but well, I don't know, eight cars, no, so that
[00:06:24] you leave your car in a parking lot, no, or who
[00:06:27] it is, no, seriously, I'm telling you, it can't be a political message,
[00:06:31] clearly, I think so, it goes I also think it goes another way, but well,
[00:06:35] that sowing fear, terror, I don't know, and if they investigated those eight
[00:06:39] cars together, could they see that the modus operandi is the same, for example?
[00:06:43] Or the materials they used, where they started, if the guy is the same, clear,
[00:06:46] obviously, the thing is that for that you need will and again we fall into the
[00:06:50] same thing, what the hell are the prosecutors doing, guys? I believe that the vast majority, of
[00:06:54] course not all, but the vast majority of prosecutors have their own agenda and the truth
[00:06:57] is that they don't give a damn about the cars of poor people, why do we
[00:07:00] differentiate between one yes and another no, if so far the truth is that
[00:07:04] none have shown, the truth sincerely the most aberrant cases
[00:07:08] none have shown an impeccable investigation
[00:07:11] let's see we have
[00:07:30] 90% is archived, the public prosecutor's office says the statistics because each
[00:07:34] judicial department 5%
[00:07:36] reaches well because they are all
[00:07:40] oversaturated and this accusatory system.
[00:08:12] one was going to explode and the other was going to explode, another little thing I want to
[00:08:15] say briefly, here are the gas installations, my
[00:08:19] room is there, I really am becoming aware that I am alive
[00:08:23] thanks to God, so that's why I get angrier and angrier and also
[00:08:26] more and more disappointed, a system that fails in security also fails in what
[00:08:30] is uh justice, are there public cameras on that block in
[00:08:33] that neighborhood? Public cameras, let's see, let's see the camera,
[00:08:37] let's see the camera again, let's see the guy, what Julia
[00:08:40] said earlier was good, Julia says, look at the... mechanism, because it's really strange, it
[00:08:44] doesn't have any kind of fast accelerant, you supposedly quickly
[00:08:47] sprayed the vehicle with fuel
[00:08:53] the wheel, look how besides he takes his time on the wheel, the fire
[00:08:57] starts slowly, he knows how to light it and where,
[00:09:00] claro, there it catches all the plastic of the fender, you're
[00:09:04] right, you're right and there's no trace that
[00:09:08] it was deliberately set on fire, it probably doesn't have accelerant, it doesn't
[00:09:11] have anything. it's true that the guy knows what he's doing, uh, he's not
[00:09:15] crazy at all, I don't think so, I don't think so, he wouldn't have his
[00:09:19] face covered, if he were crazy he probably wouldn't even cover his face, there wouldn't be,
[00:09:23] honestly, honestly I would be interested to know the motive, because
[00:09:27] let's see, that they sell drugs and that we can't live peacefully, uh, I
[00:09:30] understand that because we know the motive, the businesses, uh, that
[00:09:34] they rob you every day in public spaces we also know, but
[00:09:38] now that they burn your cars, that's it, I'll tell you one thing, for me it's a political message,
[00:09:41] uh, for me it's to create fear, for me it's to scare the
[00:09:44] population, we're entering the campaign, this is the final
[00:09:48] stretch, but the campaign started earlier, uh, it already started, the
[00:09:51] campaign is atypical, it starts a year earlier, everyone already wants to
[00:09:55] come out, and for me these are mafia messages that are sent, you know,
[00:09:58] opposition, this, I don't know, because otherwise I don't find any reason for
[00:10:02] this, what would be the business of burning Manuel's car, for example,
[00:10:06] Manuel's neighbor and six more cars, I wish they would put
[00:10:10] the same effort into proposing something, not the damn... mother assuming it was a
[00:10:14] political issue, assuming, if you say it's political, you're
[00:10:17] opposition, yes, clear, and who is opposition? No,
[00:10:21] no, no, no, that is, that's why I say, here I think that I think that... there
[00:10:25] should be a serious investigation, Manuel says there isn't
[00:10:28] one, that he went to file the complaint, which prosecutor's office, in which prosecutor's office did Manuel
[00:10:32] file it, tell us who is the prosecutor, nine everything, how, prosecutor's office
[00:10:36] nine, and if you let me, here I review all the data because I have all the
[00:10:39] papers, I walked a block to show you one of the other burned
[00:10:43] cars because a block away, yes, it's the same modus
[00:10:46] operandi, that is, the cardboard and the foam, it's very
[00:10:50] dark here, but well, this is one of the burned cars, it's just a
[00:10:54] block from my house.
[00:11:25] uh, with my close neighbor, yes, we went to the police station together and
[00:11:29] obviously we are talking all the time, we have a group of
[00:11:31] neighbors, but no, with other victims, no,
[00:11:35] because I went to ask and they couldn't give me
[00:11:38] the owner's number, or where
[00:11:41] they live, the guy who sets the cars on fire will be the
[00:11:45] same, Manuel, do you think it's the same, it's the
[00:11:48] same,
[00:11:50] for me if it's not the same it's
[00:11:54] you is that the security camera that went
[00:11:58] viral shows 4:35, yes,
[00:12:01] my car, at 4:45 it was
[00:12:04] completely on fire and if you look at the city, it's
[00:12:08] like in each block, the city, sorry, the block is like he
[00:12:11] walked block by block, clear, clear, he walked,
[00:12:15] he did one per block, all behind a tree, from what it seems and
[00:12:18] well, uh, but it is not known if it is the same person, it is not
[00:12:22] known if it is the same person who does...
[00:12:31] There are public cameras as far as I know, there are no public cameras, now the police nor the prosecutor's office nor
[00:12:34] anyone told me, hey, we have this news, hey, there's a camera, obviously I don't know
[00:12:38] if they have to tell me or not, but I didn't receive any news from the police
[00:12:42] or the prosecutor's office.
[00:12:46] Let's watch the full video, we'll keep asking her, stay, don't leave,
[00:12:50] let's analyze this, you who are a commissioner and
[00:12:53] you who are a specialist, please, we ask you to analyze the
[00:12:57] fact, the case, a guy arrives, why
[00:13:00] does he choose that vehicle, is there something, is there something selective, do you think
[00:13:04] it's directed at that vehicle, he walks by and says, well, I'll light this one because
[00:13:08] I'll light this one, is there something directed for you, no,
[00:13:11] in principle the legal classification, that's why I asked who the prosecutor is, it has to be
[00:13:15] malicious damage, article 186 of the criminal code and
[00:13:18] also illicit association if we are talking about a gang, in a
[00:13:21] populated area, I mean, that's why I'm asking if there are fixed cameras to substantiate the
[00:13:25] evidence to see if there are more types, clear fixed or clear, of course,
[00:13:29] because maybe there is someone who provides the accelerant, the match, the
[00:13:32] lighter, maybe that cardboard is already soaked in alcohol, he lights it
[00:13:36] slowly so that it's not because he's clearly blocking the camera,
[00:13:40] a crazy person, why do they light it from bottom to top and not from top by spraying
[00:13:44] it as you well said, because the neighbor could quickly call the firefighter and it wouldn't cause the
[00:13:48] malicious damage so that it precisely has that purpose that they want to sow terror,
[00:13:52] sow terror so that five catch fire.
[00:14:08] because look, he takes his time, he knows the camera is filming him, he takes his time, I mean, it's like,
[00:14:12] look, I'm doing this and there's no problem, I'm not desperate to be a guy, for
[00:14:16] me, paid, for me, definitely paid,
[00:14:19] it shows that they are guys who are paid, who are told, hey,
[00:14:22] well, I don't know if
[00:15:25] evidently it's paid, it's directed, it's not a
[00:15:28] crazy person, he's hooded, he knows there's
[00:15:31] a camera behind him, he never lifts his face, he never looks at it,
[00:15:34] always down and he can never be, he can't be identified,
[00:15:38] unfortunately it comes out at 4:45, that's also
[00:15:41] another very, very notable thing and well, evidently there's a prosecutor who
[00:15:45] is very lazy, we'll have to see why she's so lazy to
[00:15:50] the province of Buenos Aires, so that's why I wanted to know more, I lean towards your
[00:15:56] your hypothesis because he set eight cars on fire, none worked, uh, it's not
[00:15:59] that he failed and set it on
[00:16:02] fire, now, sorry, the
[00:16:06] the ur and that's why they archive, guys, any idiot who suddenly says
[00:16:09] anything on social media that a prosecutor sees is good for their own agenda and
[00:16:13] they put all the state's resources to persecute any hill who says anything, now when they have to
[00:16:17] start working seriously, when there's a risk of life like what happened to Manuel, they don't do a damn
[00:16:21] thing, brother, they don't do a damn thing, they have their own agenda, it's
[00:16:25] interesting the potential of what could have happened, you always
[00:16:29] have to ask yourself what could have happened, Manuel already solved it for you, those cars
[00:16:33] had uh uh they were with with a gas tank, both
[00:16:37] vehicles. and he and he sleeps 7 meters away, so
[00:16:40] clearly there you have a hypothesis of what could have happened,
[00:16:44] Manuel, we send you a big hug, thanks eh, one more, one more little
[00:16:48] thing, because they talked about the prosecutor's office, what you're seeing here is a complaint that
[00:16:53] is supposedly the legal advisory, they didn't want to advise
[00:16:57] me, you know why, because they said I couldn't use a cell phone, that I
[00:17:01] couldn't have notes, that I couldn't uh use
[00:17:05] AI to ask him questions, so the guy in less than two minutes
[00:17:09] dismissed me, a liar, he didn't want to give me his name and
[00:17:12] well, uh nothing, one more incompetent, you
[00:17:15] filed the complaint, you didn't go with a lawyer or anything to file the
[00:17:18] complaint, no, because I didn't want to waste time, I went
[00:17:22] directly from the incident to the police station, from the police station
[00:17:25] I waited until the prosecutor's office opened and at 8:10 I was already at the prosecutor's office
[00:17:29] uh after 12 for doing all these types of complaints and so on
[00:17:33] and trying to take advantage of the rights that one theoretically has but
[00:17:36] well. The people who run everything don't
[00:17:39] like us to know our rights or exercise them, thanks Manuel, we send
[00:17:43] you a very big hug, thank you very much, let's hear one
[00:17:46] thing, in all the time that one has been
[00:17:49] here, the prosecutors always screw up, well,
[00:17:52] prosecutors journalists, we have everything, not everything, but the
[00:17:56] prosecutors are number one, we have to see how
[00:17:59] the hell prosecutors get where they get, no, politics names them,
[00:18:02] well, you know what happens, I always say here in the United States and in Switzerland, the
[00:18:06] prosecutors know who elects them. The people, we have to start
[00:18:10] thinking about those things, but who will
[00:18:11] know them,
[00:18:14] I guarantee you that things will change, people are not stupid, in the same way that we elect
[00:18:18] politicians,
[00:18:19] legislators,
[00:18:24] breaking news,
[00:18:36] the worst blow of the crisis. Look at this, uh, it's
[00:18:39] impressive the bartering of medicines with
[00:18:42] all the risks that this implies, uh, the bartering of medicines, yes
[00:18:46] sir, being the group where they exchange pills,
[00:18:49] hey pills and any type of medicine, how dangerous, let's
[00:18:52] see, let's see guys, show me first before talking to anyone, let's show
[00:18:56] what this is about, there's a whatsapp group where
[00:18:59] medicines are bartered, specialists say this,
[00:19:03] obviously it implies an absolute
[00:19:06] health risk. Not only if the medicine is expired, that would be an
[00:19:10] anecdote, those who say that in
[00:19:14] these whatsapp groups different types of medicines are
[00:19:17] bartered that can be very harmful
[00:19:21] to health, that is, with archived prescriptions,
[00:19:24] and they ask for the prescription to exchange no, it's not a medicine exchange, it's a
[00:19:28] medicine exchange, it's a medicine sale, I sell, I barter, in fact,
[00:19:31] look here, uh, I was able to join the group and of course they
[00:19:35] eliminated all of us who joined, but they realized. But look,
[00:19:38] only online remedies south zone, well, here are the group
[00:19:41] rules, this will be offered for sale, barter, exchange
[00:19:45] only remedies in the way that
[00:19:48] best suits the potential buyers,
[00:19:51] no, here you see, for example, what an offer is, for
[00:19:55] example, I sell two boxes of neumoterol, each box
[00:19:58] 50,000, both 80,000, they make you offers,
[00:20:01] no, you have, look here, let's see all the
[00:20:05] uh, there are pills for for for for for for
[00:20:07] complicated patients, so to speak, but also for psychiatry
[00:20:11] that is used in psychiatry with with with archived prescriptions,
[00:20:15] clearly, that is, it's complicated, I mean I understand
[00:20:18] the need, there's a terrible need, medicines are, it's one of the
[00:20:22] countries where medicines are paid for most expensively in the world, in the world,
[00:20:26] uh, because I don't understand this, let's see, the textiles tell you, they tell
[00:20:30] you, the libertarians tell you, the government, guys, well, but you can't
[00:20:33] pay for such expensive shoes, but we
[00:20:36] import so that... the shoes are cheaper for you, you know, well, let's
[00:20:40] do that with medicines, guys, because we're paying the most expensive in the
[00:20:43] world, Jorge Rashid is here, what's up, Jorge, how are you, all good,
[00:20:47] what's up Tomás, very very good your. very good your
[00:20:51] presentation because really these are the
[00:20:53] consequences we are experiencing, they are like this sick person, the
[00:20:57] system is this sick person who is decomposing by
[00:21:00] sectors, you know, but it's a multiorgan failure, we
[00:21:04] call it in medicine, no, yes, uh, Jorge, does this imply any
[00:21:07] risk for for health, for the population, those who are in these whatsapp
[00:21:11] groups exchanging medicines,
[00:21:15] the first risk to health is called my law, let's say, no,
[00:21:18] this that took away the... medicines from the
[00:21:20] retirees, is that the traceability law
[00:21:23] went down, which is a very strong issue,
[00:21:27] because it implies not knowing the entire
[00:21:30] deployment from production to delivery of the
[00:21:33] medicine, the one who brought down the
[00:21:37] "Remediar" plan, which was a plan of 100 medicines that
[00:21:40] for 24 years had been assisting the smallest
[00:21:43] rural populations and public hospitals, he left it at three
[00:21:46] medicines, all in function
[00:21:50] of the new god of fiscal surplus, so
[00:21:54] the deaths we count by hundreds, not the oncological
[00:21:57] deaths, the deaths from rare
[00:22:00] diseases, that's why medicines start to be exchanged, no
[00:22:04] unfortunately, that's why groups of people start to
[00:22:07] form, I'm going to tell you a personal anecdote, when I go to the pharmacy because I'm
[00:22:11] retired, the pharmacist tells me, stay Turk,
[00:22:15] stay two hours because people ask me, I don't know why they
[00:22:18] want to split the pill. This is dramatic,
[00:22:22] they want to split the pill to make it last longer, this opens a
[00:22:26] clinical window, as it's called, which is what produces
[00:22:29] effects where the possibility of a
[00:22:33] diabetic, a hypertensive person having a cerebrovascular accident penetrates, you ask, as a
[00:22:36] doctor, you ask, as a doctor, the pharmacist to stay to see if you can
[00:22:40] prescribe people if they can save on medicine,
[00:22:43] advise, I cannot prescribe but I can
[00:22:46] advise, please do not split the medicine. and
[00:22:50] you said it well, the issue of whether the
[00:22:53] medicine is expired or not, no, it's important, but
[00:22:57] it's not as important as the fact that people are getting
[00:23:01] into overturning trucks of fake medicines and
[00:23:07] traceability can lead to you being sold a medicine that
[00:23:10] you think you are taking and you are actually taking, I don't know,
[00:23:14] a pill manufactured
[00:23:16] a tablet. You know that I dedicate
[00:23:20] myself to the public production of medicine and
[00:23:23] and during the 90s these
[00:23:26] issues of people who
[00:23:29] produced fake medicines appeared
[00:23:32] on the market, you know, they told you this
[00:23:36] is paracetamol and it wasn't
[00:23:39] paracetamol, I mean commercial names better name this is paracetamol and it
[00:23:43] wasn't paracetamol
[00:23:47] I don't know, bicarbonate.
[00:23:51] We send you a big hug, thanks for attending to us,
[00:23:54] thank you very much, and I congratulate you, I congratulate you for dedicating yourself to this issue,
[00:23:58] because it is very complex and medicalization can cause
[00:24:02] death, because even if the medicine is good,
[00:24:06] even if it is correct, excessive medicalization doing it on your
[00:24:09] own leads to complications to the body, let's not
[00:24:13] forget, any medicine
[00:24:15] modifies the internal balance of the body, any
[00:24:19] medicine. Jorge says, big hug, thank you very much, well it's
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[00:28:57] the price of
[00:28:57] happiness.
[00:29:02] Do you have to earn to be happy? What a
[00:29:05] good question. According to a survey, Argentinians are
[00:29:08] content with 2.5 million
[00:29:10] pesos. There
[00:29:13] it
[00:29:18] goes. Well, the price of happiness would be
[00:29:21] the topic, how much would you have to earn to be happy?
[00:29:25] How much, seriously, how much does an Argentinian have to earn to be happy? Come on, let's be direct, come on
[00:29:29] Grondona, come on, let's not beat around the bush, how much, how much do they have to earn? What happens is that
[00:29:33] I don't have to earn money to be happy. 8 million, 7 million,
[00:29:37] 8 million pesos, Leo, more or less to be happy with that
[00:29:40] amount. With 3 million you cover the
[00:29:44] basics, eh? 8 million, the
[00:29:46] basics. They have
[00:29:50] happiness. First, let's define what happiness is. Is it something to remember or something to
[00:29:54] experience?
[00:29:55] Happiness.
[00:30:02] I'm with him, I'm with him.
[00:30:12] The question, the question that the survey asks, unfortunately normal
[00:30:15] people answer, and normal people tell you a price of how much
[00:30:19] it costs, what is that, I don't know, you go to the park with your
[00:30:23] children, you go to the movies, you eat well, I don't know, you buy a little gift if you want to give yourself
[00:30:27] some treats, 8 million pesos, 8 sticks is the figure, I think
[00:30:30] exactly the same thing. I would have said
[00:30:33] much, a little bit, I have very little flight, round me
[00:30:37] up to 10, do you want to make me happy? Round me up to 10, but a
[00:30:40] family of four, of four, a typical family, yes, well guys,
[00:30:44] let's not make it complicated, please, one linear thing,
[00:30:46] I say it from being single, well, how much
[00:30:50] single? How much? 2 and a half, I'm fine, 2 and a half million, there it is, there it is, and well, the
[00:30:54] same answer as us, so look, two and a half by
[00:30:57] four, let's see Argentina.