CRONICA — broadcast 20260911 230000 UTC 420 transcript segments Google Cloud Speech-to-Text API (Chirp) + Gemini 2.5 Flash Non-Thinking Data courtesy of The GDELT Project (https://www.gdeltproject.org/), from the Internet Archive TV News Archive. Machine transcription. Treat it as a searchable index of what was broadcast, not a verbatim quotation record. [00:00:17] The question, the question that the survey asks, normal people [00:00:20] answer it, unfortunately, and normal people tell you a price of how much [00:00:24] it costs. [00:00:27] You go to the park with your children, you go to the cinema, you eat well. I don't know, [00:00:30] you buy a little gift, you want to treat yourself a bit. 8 million pesos, 8 million bucks [00:00:34] is the figure. I think exactly the [00:00:36] same. I would have said much [00:00:39] more. I have very [00:00:41] it has to do with what little ambition, guys. Round me up to 10. If you want to make me happy, [00:00:45] cardboard collector. He would go look for things in the round me up to 10. But a family of four, a typical [00:00:48] family, yes, well, guys, let's not complicate it. I ask you, please, for [00:00:51] linear things, because if you ask me, I'll say I'm alone. Well, how many [00:00:55] are alone? No, 2 and a half. I'm [00:00:57] mother, because we talked to Susana, what the fine. There it is, there it is. And well, the same answer, no. So [00:01:00] two and a half, modify it by four. Look, let's [00:01:03] see. Argentina, Argentina today, [00:01:06] allegedly, what they say is that you could be happy [00:01:10] with $1600 in Chile. You need [00:01:13] $100. This is very illustrative of what my law says, because my [00:01:16] law says, be careful, you have a high salary in dollars. Yes, that's fine. [00:01:20] But in Chile, the cost in dollars is lower. [00:01:24] Of course. And if you go to Paraguay, not to mention, the cost of [00:01:27] living in Paraguay is lower in dollars. Of course. [00:01:42] We're going to ask people, go ahead, Cristian. Let's go with [00:01:45] everything. How are you, Tomás? How is the whole team? Well, money isn't [00:01:49] everything, but how it helps, as the song says. Let's talk a little with the people. Let's see, young lady, [00:01:52] a few words, the number of happiness. How much would you like to be [00:01:55] happy? Let's see. Well, let's go. [00:01:59] Ma'am, ma'am. The number of happiness. What is it? I'm [00:02:02] in a hurry. Well, let's [00:02:05] see. Let's keep talking to people. Sir, sir, the [00:02:08] number of happiness. How much would you like to earn per month to be happy? What would [00:02:12] I like to earn for my salary? [00:02:15] Yes, a number, a number to be happy. Happy, nine, [00:02:19] nine, nine million, nine million. Well, there [00:02:22] it is, nine million, guys. My dear, the number of [00:02:26] happiness. What would you like to be happy? Big head. [00:02:53] finding anything at all. Now what You go to a football club and you're going to be [00:02:56] a coach. They ask you how much you want to earn. What you earn is one million pesos. [00:03:00] It depends on what the club [00:03:02] wants. With my club, [00:03:05] happy, I go for 500. Come on, let's go. [00:03:09] Let's go to the streets, Cristian. Let's go, let's go. It's [00:03:12] Friday, guys. Gentlemen, a short question. The number of [00:03:16] happiness. How much per month to be happy? And to be [00:03:20] happy per month, or what? Per month, yes, per month. And 2 [00:03:23] million, I would be happy. 2 million, that's [00:03:26] all. 500 million. [00:04:05] being investigated, at least from what [00:04:16] And 10, and the two retirees told you two because they are used to living on their pension. So you tell a [00:04:20] two people who were with Maxi at the retiree 2 million. [00:04:23] No, but wait. To have dignity in Argentina, guys, we are talking about [00:04:26] dignity, it's not a joke. People tell you that being happy is having dignity. [00:04:42] many problems with [00:05:00] We continue talking, young lady. A question: how much would you like to earn per month to be happy? [00:05:04] To be happy per month, how much per [00:05:07] month? Per month, 2 million. 2 [00:05:10] million. [00:06:12] reach. Or how much would you like to earn per month to be happy? To be able [00:06:16] to do whatever you want. Uh, I don't know, I have [00:06:19] no idea. [00:06:24] Brother. [00:06:29] The question is how much money you need to be happy. Happiness is relative, and [00:06:33] besides, the only one here who said something relatively coherent was Chipinti [00:06:37] when he said, when he said, "Look at what they are saying, because that gives you the key to how much they [00:06:41] are earning." That's right, yes, of course. Well, it's relative, it's [00:06:44] relative. 500 thousand, one and a half million will make you happy. Let's go, [00:06:48] come on. There, come on, come on, with [00:06:52] the people. Let's see, let's see. My dear, a short question. Yes. [00:06:55] Okay. Let's go. [00:06:59] There. Well, let's go. Let's continue. There it is. [00:07:02] Let's go, sir. How are you, sir? How much would you [00:07:06] like to earn per month to be happy and treat yourself to everything? I have [00:07:10] no idea, but I want to clarify already. [00:07:12] I'm happy. [00:07:21] Very good, because I'm telling her. Let's see what our people say. Let's go. Here [00:07:23] people say we would have to earn [00:07:26] 3500 to be happy. [00:07:29] Here they tell us I want to earn 3 million. [00:07:33] And here someone says that with just two little sticks of mine, with two [00:07:36] little sticks. Let's see what they tell [00:07:39] us here. Uh, [00:08:06] a million two hundred. Today a taxi driver told me, a 78-year-old taxi driver, for him, for his wife and daughter, a million two hundred fifty [00:08:09] taxi driver, uh, we are, well, there you have the health insurance, a million. [00:08:42] We are even ashamed to say that 10 million is a decent [00:08:46] salary, it's a decent salary because people are earning 80,000 pesos. [00:08:49] Come on, Cristian, come on. Go. [00:08:53] Let's go, let's go. Miss, can I ask you how much you would like to earn per [00:08:57] month to be happy, all the luxuries, everything? Oh, with this [00:09:00] government we have. [00:09:03] Oh, no, no. Number of happiness, throw me a number. To be really [00:09:06] calm, and [00:09:08] 2,500 for being calm, the basics. [00:09:16] alone, helpless, without children. [00:09:31] That's why we are increasingly [00:09:41] This rascal. [00:10:13] expenses, plus services, how much does it take from the two and a half million? [00:10:16] It takes a million one hundred, dude, a million one hundred [00:10:20] it takes. [00:10:22] He has a million left, he has a million and some change to spend. Of course, yes, if he doesn't [00:10:26] have health insurance, if he doesn't have transportation, dude, [00:10:29] he has less left. So stop screwing around. We need to [00:10:33] make an important reading of what he said. He said that it's complicated to have a family, [00:10:37] but because of money. It's very good that it's [00:10:40] like that. It's very good that he thinks beforehand, because bringing kids here today, the cost of raising a [00:10:44] child is one million pesos. Bringing a child into this world costs [00:10:47] one million per month at least. Come on, Julio says with 15 [00:10:51] million together. [00:10:55] With 2 million, I earn 450. Imagine what Lucas [00:10:58] said, no, I'm fine with 2 million. I [00:11:02] would like to earn 8 million, they tell us [00:11:04] here. [00:11:07] Two million, guys, yes, we are fewer. I have it, at least five. [00:11:10] We are very low. Here they tell us I am a retiree, I earn [00:11:14] 480. With 3 million per month I would be happy. [00:11:17] 3 million, dad. [00:11:21] Well, let's go to the street, let's go, Cristian, let's go, let's see what Argentinians say. [00:11:55] How much, how much is the number of happiness? We are asking how much you would like [00:11:59] to earn per month to be happy. I [00:12:02] am happy with what I earn, at least comfortable. [00:12:06] With 1,800 I am [00:12:07] fine. [00:12:13] I think that's pretty good. Well, thank you very much. 4 [00:12:16] million. Hello, how are you? Can I ask you? Yes, how [00:12:19] are things going? What is the number of happiness? How much would you like to earn per month to [00:12:23] be happy? A senator, a deputy earns, and on top of that, [00:12:27] they should represent the people and they vote against [00:12:31] us. The truth is that [00:12:33] 12 million is very complicated, very complicated. People who [00:12:37] have to rent can't afford anything. The cost of living [00:12:41] is very expensive. They tell you that inflation is [00:12:44] 1.7. The truth is that they laugh in our faces. I'm [00:12:48] already fed up. We are very good, we are very good. [00:12:51] Thank you. Greetings to Tomás Méndez. There it is. Thank you. A kiss. [00:13:05] in this government that was going to pass the chainsaw through the public sector and give to the [00:13:08] people, to the workers, no. And another thing that strikes me is that most of the [00:13:12] retired political leaders earn between 16 and 20 [00:13:15] million. So, let's say, why do they [00:13:18] need between 16 and 20 million to live as retirees, and other [00:13:22] people would need 500,000 pesos? What makes you think [00:13:25] that? I think they believe they are more than the people. You know [00:13:29] what? I think they believe they are more than the people. They forget that they are public [00:13:33] servants. They think they are Hollywood actors on the red [00:13:36] carpet, a prize. Go to hell! Come on, Cristian, [00:13:40] come on, come on. Don't laugh. Go, let's go with the people, let's continue, [00:13:44] let's continue. Let's see, Dad, sorry, I ask you how much would you [00:13:47] like to earn per month to be happy? [00:13:51] A number, call the number, ask this. [00:13:55] 2 million pesos. With 2 million happy, yes, calm. I don't [00:13:59] need much, without flaunting. [00:14:01] Sure. [00:14:04] 10 million [00:14:05] pesos. [00:14:11] 10 [00:14:11] million. [00:14:16] The question [00:14:19] is, how much money would you like to earn per month to be happy? And 10 million [00:14:22] also. To be happy, happy. 10 million. The worst part is, it's fine. [00:14:26] They know what they have to earn. Go earn 10 million in Argentina. [00:14:29] Where, where do you earn 10 [00:14:31] million? [00:14:34] Let's continue, let's continue, let's continue. We'll leave the personal talks for [00:14:37] later. [00:14:40] How much would you like per month to be happy? I, two million. Two [00:14:44] million. [00:14:49] Two million, sir, I ask you, eh, how much would you like to earn per month to be happy? [00:14:53] How much? A number, give me a number. [00:15:25] No, short and sweet. They should stop stealing and people should be [00:15:28] able to have. I'll add a detail. People want to earn [00:15:32] what a deputy earns, what a senator earns. A Supreme Court justice earns 20 [00:15:35] million pesos. Yes. More than a deputy, and it's not right. [00:15:39] But, but I'm going to tell you, people don't say how much they earn. Honestly, the [00:15:43] deputies scratch their butts eight times, Leo, and the [00:15:46] senators scratch their butts. It has to be an octopus next time. The next [00:15:50] time an octopus runs, we have to vote for it. And the Supreme Court justices also scratch their butts. You're [00:15:54] right. Once a week they meet to make rulings. Yes, yes, [00:15:58] you're right, you're right. Well, more people, come on, come on, Juli, here they tell us to be happy with my [00:16:01] son and my granddaughter, 15 million [00:16:03] pesos. 6 million pesos with free [00:16:07] medication, retirees tell us here. 7 [00:16:10] million, yes or no. Here they tell us I earn [00:16:13] 500,000 pesos per month. With one million I am happy. Here [00:16:19] one earns too. Here it says I would like to earn 10 [00:16:22] million. Seven million would be a [00:16:25] hit. Here they also tell us 4 million and that they change [00:16:28] the prosecutors. Well, here also, how far we are, how far we are from all [00:16:32] those figures we are hearing, unfortunately. How far we are from being happy. Yes, the [00:16:36] cunning candidate who sees all this, the first thing he has to [00:16:39] say is, the minimum wage in my government will [00:16:42] be, for next year, 3 million [00:16:45] pesos. No, if we are talking about two, next year it will be [00:16:48] three. 3 million pesos will be the minimum [00:16:52] wage. Steal 80%. [00:16:56] They don't steal votes, oh, they steal votes. [00:17:00] For 70 years we have been going, come on Cris, go, go, go [00:17:03] Cris, go, go. Let's see, ma'am, can I ask you? Tell [00:17:07] me how much you would like to earn per month to be happy? I'm quite [00:17:11] happy. A number, money you need to [00:17:14] afford luxuries, I don't know. How much would you like to be calm, pay bills? Do you have [00:17:18] rent? The truth is that luxuries are not something that interests me at all. [00:17:22] Look at you, Solari the Indian. [00:17:25] Anyway, I always pray, I pray for the [00:17:29] president, I pray for Argentina, [00:17:32] I pray for all Argentinians. Yes, a lot [00:17:34] has to do with everything. I am in a [00:17:38] good situation. I studied. I recommend young people [00:17:41] to study, to go to university, to stay up [00:17:45] late doing important things. We have a [00:17:48] breaking news. Come on, we'll be right back. Go, go. Breaking news. [00:18:09] Disappearance and mystery, gentlemen. [00:18:13] Intense search for Maximiliano Cabrera. They called us. [00:18:16] We are there. [00:18:17] Exactly. [00:18:21] He met up with friends, never came back home. [00:18:23] Come on, Lucas, tell us. Exactly. [00:18:27] Maximiliano Cabrera, on [00:18:31] August 29th, he is 26 years old. What the family [00:18:34] says is that Maximiliano went out with [00:18:37] some friends and also one of his brothers. They went to a landfill, [00:18:41] they arrived at that place and split up. Maximiliano went for a walk with a [00:18:45] friend, and since then we know [00:18:48] absolutely nothing more. The last person who [00:18:52] had contact with Maximiliano is a [00:18:55] person who, years ago, had stolen his [00:18:58] shoes. Maximiliano re-established a relationship with that [00:19:01] person who, as I mentioned earlier, years ago had a conflict [00:19:05] over the theft of a shoe. Nothing is known about him. What [00:19:09] the family is asking for right now is for the prosecutor's office to [00:19:12] authorize the searches. Yes, until a week [00:19:16] ago they were authorized, they were searching, but now at this [00:19:19] moment nobody is looking for Maximiliano. [00:19:22] Daniel is on the line, he is a journalist from San Luis. Wow, how many kids disappear, [00:19:26] huh? It's impressive. It's a moment that I honestly still don't [00:19:30] understand why, what are the reasons why kids are [00:19:33] disappearing? Today, Julia said there's a challenge. [00:19:37] A social media challenge that makes 9-year-old [00:19:41] kids disappear for 48 hours from their homes. How is that, Julia? [00:19:44] Tell us, there's a challenge called the disappearance [00:19:48] challenge. It has different names, but yes, [00:19:51] they are challenges on social media that encourage primary and secondary [00:19:54] school children to disappear for 48 hours. Why is [00:19:58] this? Because they earn points. It's like a game. So the more their photo [00:20:02] goes viral on social media or in news outlets like ours, the more [00:20:06] points they earn. And to... in 48 hours away from home, without food, [00:20:10] without care, out in the open. Well, for that, I don't know if it has to [00:20:13] do particularly with that internet [00:20:16] game, but social media is making a lot of noise in [00:20:20] society in an outrageous way. Kids are disappearing [00:20:23] every day. We have a very [00:20:26] high demand on our channel. You can't keep up with all the [00:20:30] demands you have to look for all the kids who keep disappearing. But [00:20:34] the previous program with Feddy Rochi, they were already looking for a girl. I mean, [00:20:37] it's very complicated. Dani, tell us what's happening there. Go. Hello, [00:20:41] how are you? Yes, no, the truth is that Maxi has been missing for 13 days. [00:20:44] He went out [00:20:47] on Saturday, one Saturday [00:20:50] night. He disappeared at 4 in the morning. He went with his [00:20:53] brother. He met up at a landfill with [00:20:57] three more people, a couple and another guy. [00:21:00] What is known is that Maxi's [00:21:03] brother, Fabricio, I think his name is, went walking with a guy, and Maxi stayed [00:21:06] with a couple, yes. [00:21:10] When his brother came back to look for Maxi, he found [00:21:14] no trace of the couple, no trace of [00:21:17] Maxi, and from there they started [00:21:21] looking for him. But wait, all this happened in the landfill, in a landfill in San [00:21:23] Luis. All this happened in a landfill in San Luis. Did he [00:21:27] work at the landfill? Did he go to look for waste? What was [00:21:30] he doing? Yes, sure, it's like a kind of [00:21:35] trash to sell, yes. And what do they think happened? Was he [00:21:38] killed? What could have happened? Well, [00:21:41] what the family speculates, the [00:21:47] mother speculates is that he could have fallen into a pit. Because [00:21:50] there are pits in that landfill. She says he must have [00:21:54] fallen into a pit and the trash covered him. Nobody could [00:21:57] rescue him and they are looking for him. And the couple who, and the couple who [00:22:01] were also not there and were changing together. Of course, all three in a [00:22:05] pit and nobody noticed, nobody looked for him in a landfill. [00:22:08] How big is that landfill? What dimensions does it have? Give me a second, just [00:22:12] this. What dimensions does the landfill have? There is a [00:22:15] big landfill, it must be about 2 or 3 km. So, [00:22:24] quite big. Okay, that's fine, Dani. The family says that Maxi had reconciled with a [00:22:27] person who, years [00:22:29] ago, they had an argument about the theft of a shoe. Is this [00:22:33] person being investigated? Yes, yes, the person is being investigated. [00:22:36] The guy who went with Maxi's brother [00:22:40] is being investigated. The couple, [00:22:43] the couple. I think [00:22:46] they found no trace of the couple, at least as far as I... I knew. [00:22:50] They didn't have a name, but they don't know who the couple was that [00:22:54] was there that night with Maxi. So they don't [00:22:57] know who Maxi was with, who he left with, with that couple. [00:23:01] Of course, because they met that night, you can imagine, [00:23:04] there was supposedly alcohol involved. [00:23:07] It was 4 in the morning, a Saturday dawn. [00:23:11] They went to a landfill and met the brother, surely they were [00:23:15] drinking or something. What did Maxi's brother declare? [00:23:18] This is what I'm telling you. That he went with a friend and when he came back he didn't find Maxi [00:23:22] anymore. He went with, he stayed with a couple that Maxi's [00:23:26] brother doesn't know who the couple was. Look, I've been in contact with the [00:23:30] family. What the family ended up mentioning is that until a week ago [00:23:34] they were looking for him and that the prosecutor's office stopped the [00:23:37] search, stopped authorizing the search because they weren't [00:23:43] the family is urgently asking for is for these [00:23:46] searches to resume. Is there any information about this? Did they come back? [00:23:52] Look, there was a march by the family asking for exactly this. [00:23:54] Uh, today I contacted the San Luis provincial [00:23:58] police, and they tell us that they were searching, but who [00:24:02] has to give the order for the search or sweep or whatever is the prosecutor's office. [00:24:05] Clear, exactly. So the prosecutor's office apparently [00:24:09] we're going back. To where are you going [00:24:12] back? To the main one, no, the prosecutor's office. Good. But do [00:24:16] you think there's a suspect, that he was killed? Look, I'm going to tell [00:24:20] you something that justice says, it says: years [00:24:23] ago, Maxi had a fight with a person [00:24:26] whom he accused of having stolen his shoes. Maxi accused [00:24:30] the person. Another person accused Maxi of having stolen his shoes. [00:24:33] Yes, years ago. Now what it says is exactly years ago and [00:24:37] at this very instant when he disappears, this was August [00:24:40] 29th, when Maxi disappears, with whom was he? With that same person who [00:24:44] years ago accused him of having stolen his shoes. So the last time this [00:24:48] boy was seen was with that person who... was accused of having stolen, exactly. And is that, is that [00:24:52] information not being investigated? It's not [00:24:55] Daniel is telling us. Well, no, [00:24:58] actually what Maxi's brother says is that Maxi stayed with a [00:25:02] couple, not with the guy who stole his shoes. No. [00:25:06] So, according to Maxi's brother's testimony, he stayed with [00:25:10] a couple whose identity is unknown to him. How old is Maxi? 26 [00:25:13] years old. And what did he do? Basically, he was dedicated to [00:25:17] recycling. Do you know if he went to school? Do you know if the boy [00:25:21] had an education? Do they care? No, the boy [00:25:24] worked there. He has a child and his wife is 6 [00:25:27] months pregnant, I think. His wife. But what happens is, [00:25:31] what a mess, how incredible. Look, we just came from asking people [00:25:35] how happy they were with their salary, and this kid lived with 400,000 [00:25:39] pesos and already had a child, and another child was probably on the way. [00:25:42] I mean, what horrible distances there [00:25:45] are between some and others. It's impressive. Besides, another [00:25:49] thing. More, Lucas. The poor can [00:25:52] die and they don't even look for them within a 3 km radius. Do you [00:25:56] understand? Because, okay, I suppose the landfill seems big, 3 km, [00:26:00] but it's 3 km. You have to look for him. Hello, [00:26:24] good evening, good evening, Susana. What do you think happened to your [00:26:27] son? Oh, look, so many things [00:26:31] we thought could have happened to my son. As a [00:26:34] mother, I have the feeling [00:26:37] that he might be lost, disoriented in the countryside. [00:26:40] Another thing, I don't know what could have happened to him. I don't know what [00:26:44] to think anymore. But lost in what countryside, Susana? If [00:26:47] he disappeared how many days ago? August 21st. Right, many [00:26:51] days ago, 13 days. Right, 14 [00:26:54] days ago today. Right. And lost in what countryside, Susana? [00:26:58] In the municipal landfill. [00:27:01] Yes, on Route 7. But how would he be lost in a landfill, [00:27:05] Susana, if your son always went to work there? Besides, if he were lost in the [00:27:09] landfill, in the landfill there is a big [00:27:12] field, very, very immense. I sent you photos, I don't know if [00:27:16] you have seen the photos of the field, which is a [00:27:19] very large, immense field. We [00:27:22] are seeing that it has no exit to any side. They [00:27:26] only look for him in a part of the landfill, but they don't [00:27:29] go look for him in the field at all. They don't even [00:27:33] have to. They have all the materials to look for him. They have [00:27:37] horses, they have drones, they have dogs. Because [00:27:40] we have to go around looking for him everywhere as a family. [00:27:44] We could even get lost. No, Susana, but do they go with dogs, do they [00:27:47] go with drones? I mean, do you see them well-equipped or have they deployed an [00:27:51] operation to search? They only search in one single place, which [00:27:55] would be the landfill, clear, that's [00:27:59] all. Well, it's difficult, it's very [00:28:02] difficult. 14 days ago, Lucas, in that landfill, are there machines [00:28:06] working? Ask him. In the [00:28:09] landfill there were cameras, and they went to look for [00:28:12] the cameras, and according to the prosecutors, they are broken, [00:28:16] there are no cameras. But we know there are cameras because my son [00:28:19] has always gone to the landfill and we have seen the cameras, and [00:28:23] they say they don't work because there's no internet. What did you want to [00:28:27] ask Grondona? What town is the field in and what is it [00:28:30] called? What is the field called and where is it, Susana? It's on Route [00:28:34] 7. [00:28:36] Yes, yes, it's on Route 7. But where do you live, [00:28:40] Susana? What's the name of the town where you live? I live in [00:28:43] San Luis Capital. Ah, in San Luis Capital. San Luis Capital. That's why, [00:28:47] what's the name of the area where the [00:28:51] field is? It's the landfill. It's [00:28:54] away from the city. Right, that's good. Well, there it is. [00:28:57] So, let's say, the guy is still missing. They're going to keep [00:29:00] complaining, unfortunately. Susana says they're not [00:29:04] looking for him, that his own family is. Exactly, as his [00:29:08] mother said, 14 days ago they searched for him for a week. There were searches because [00:29:12] last week there were searches. The problem is this week when you talk to the [00:29:15] police and what they tell you is we don't have authorization to continue doing. Let's [00:29:19] see, Susana, do you have a lawyer? Have you hired a lawyer for this? To [00:29:23] push them. No, because I'm from a low-income [00:29:26] background. I'm watching. I'm a [00:29:29] low-income family. I don't have a way, Governor. [00:29:32] The minister, they have all the materials, [00:29:37] all the things to look for him, yes. [00:29:40] But no. Things that happen here in San Luis, they never [00:29:44] make them public. They all cover up the sun with one hand, the [00:29:47] sun. Hey Daniel, and what do you think is happening then? I mean, what [00:29:51] Susana is saying is true, I mean, is it like that? I would like, yes, I would like [00:29:55] to ask Susana if she knows the couple that Maxi [00:29:58] met up with, if they have any information as a family. [00:30:04] Yes, here's mine. She, the lady, is 6 months pregnant and [00:30:08] has an 8-year-old daughter. No, Susana, what Daniel is asking [00:30:11] you is if you know, because [00:30:14] apparently Maxi was with a couple at the time of his [00:30:18] disappearance inside the landfill. Do you know those [00:30:23] time? disappears, [00:30:26] uh, look, what can I tell you, I know there were some [00:30:30] there who were with him, but... who have known each other for [00:30:34] a long time, I rule out all that until I'm absolutely [00:30:37] sure they were them, or I want [00:30:41] because truly he had [00:30:44] them, but I'm not sure until what kind of problems Susana had [00:30:48] with them, what kind of problems [00:30:50] did she have, [00:30:53] the problems they had street fighting, things like [00:30:56] stealing a shoe? Did they have a problem?