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[00:00:06] New Brama ft grapefruit flavor and
[00:00:10] any delay situation, they day? I tell you that here we are going to lemon sweetness where you didn't expect it.
[00:00:24] last
[00:00:25] moment.
[00:00:47] He changed gender and got a tattoo of Lautaro
[00:00:51] Martínez.
[00:00:56] He went to look for the soccer player so he could sign his leg.
[00:01:05] you and you still feel it as if it were
[00:01:08] he got a tattoo of his face and the signature of his
[00:01:11] idol.
[00:01:16] good there we are seeing if he signs the moment that
[00:01:20] Lautaro Martínez signs his leg.
[00:01:22] there we are seeing with the number 22 even that is a characteristic of the
[00:01:26] signature of there is the hug. We are
[00:01:30] with Lautaro, not
[00:01:31] Martínez,
[00:01:35] all good, good afternoon, all nervous, but well, not
[00:01:38] well, first of all, thanks to Crónica for giving me the opportunity to
[00:01:42] be able to tell this, which for me was something unique that still makes me
[00:01:46] bring up the issue. We are cry just thinking about it. That hug, as you say, right?
[00:01:50] Such great humility from a world champion, no less. How did the love for
[00:01:54] Lautaro Martínez begin? Not to fill your
[00:01:57] eyes.
[00:02:01] To hug him, not because he was also telling me a lot, very few people looked
[00:02:04] at him with the sweetness with which he signed, like with the, you know, and the journalists, the ones
[00:02:08] from sport who were there live, they were telling me, "I can't believe it because players
[00:02:11] don't stop," and when I showed him
[00:02:13] letters, "Please do not interfere in the tattoo, he told me, "You want me to sign it for you?" And yes, I I
[00:02:16] give me the shirt, he signed it, he gave me the shirt, guys, I have the shirt.
[00:02:20] He gave it to me. If we can see the note later, I passed it to the
[00:02:24] guys, eh, he takes it out of the car and they tell me, "I knew
[00:02:28] you had it, no, it's his," literally made in
[00:02:32] Italy, he gave me, he took the
[00:02:35] is that apparently the fight was already shirt from the trunk,
[00:02:36] and the idea is to make a campaign so that in but why? That's how generous he is, eh, well, I went through a whole
[00:02:40] gender change and for me, I admire him not
[00:02:43] that is, the only as a soccer player but as a man, that is, for me he is a
[00:02:45] prototype of a man to follow, I love the family he has, I follow him on social media,
[00:02:49] biologically do you admire him or physically, I don't know what
[00:02:52] motivates you about him, everything, I see him as such a father, I always wanted to be
[00:02:57] goal against the English to be in a a father and well, I see him like that with his children with such tenderness. And
[00:03:00] no, but how does it start, when did you say, "No, well, he left
[00:03:04] said runoff, in when he played for Racing," no, no, well, I also want to talk about that, give me a
[00:03:07] little time to be able to talk a little bit
[00:03:09] minimum advantage is for Lula, in about it so they can brag a little bit, right? But
[00:03:12] let's talk about love first, how does the love for Lautaro begin? Well, the love for Lautaro was
[00:03:16] since he went to Inter, he went to Inter, that's when he started to explode from
[00:03:20] 2018, he already has nine titles with Inter captain, in fact after
[00:03:24] this note that the guys did for me went so viral, thank
[00:03:27] God, eh, you're creating people in Italy, imagine that, so
[00:03:31] I'm seeing the possibility
[00:03:34] removing a candidate, and the other because I literally don't have a penny, I can't go to Italy until
[00:03:37] I got there, no, well, but you followed him in Racing,
[00:03:40] didn't you? No, I'm a fan of Boca, on top of that I went to Ezeiza
[00:03:44] one day after Boca left Racing out of the cup, so I didn't say anything because otherwise it would have been bad,
[00:03:48] but did you see him play in Racing or did you? No, I saw him, I saw him, but
[00:03:51] I didn't pay that much attention, I when he started in Inter, that's when I
[00:03:55] started to follow him more, you understand? That's when I started with the goal against the English
[00:03:59] that's where I loved him, he did it, he did it on July 15th, my
[00:04:03] birthday on top of that, no more, no less, and when he signed for you, what did
[00:04:06] he say? When he signed for you, he could believe it, first of all, there, here it is, yes,
[00:04:10] "How well done is the tattoo," he told me, first, the first thing he told me, is that it can be seen,
[00:04:14] right? They are seeing it, because it is realism, I don't know if you want to show it a little bit, I want to stop,
[00:04:18] but well, it was something incredible, there
[00:04:22] we are seeing the tattoo, look, that is the tattoo and of course I had the tattoo for years
[00:04:25] like for at least three or four years that I have it and then he
[00:04:29] told me I got the signature, the signature, and you asked him to sign
[00:04:32] there or did he sign himself because he wanted to? He told me, "Do you want me to sign it?" I had brought
[00:04:35] a marker, I've been manifesting this, guys, for months,
[00:04:39] you understand, that I've been manifesting to be able to see him.
[00:04:42] I wrote on a paper, I believe a lot in the law, I want you to start manifesting other
[00:04:46] things, presidents who come, presidents who go, ah
[00:04:49] well, we're talking about soccer, manifest
[00:04:52] Carlito,
[00:04:54] but well, you went to the penalty shootout to ask for
[00:04:58] here we are seeing the hug. Where is this? Where did you find
[00:05:02] him? Where did you go to look for him?
[00:05:05] You were outside, because you can't go in, you can't go in. Good, he leaves, you
[00:05:10] voters in general, then in stopped him.
[00:05:12] the schools here in the area is what... Oh, the moment he entered. Of course, because they had the weekend off, he was with
[00:05:15] his family. I was watching him on Instagram, he was in Mendoza with
[00:05:19] his wife who has her winery, and well, the idea was to know
[00:05:23] if he entered or not. You enter at they say, and he might be inside, maybe
[00:05:27] he came in the morning. I had a day off, I said I'll stay
[00:05:29] there, I'll spend the whole day there, exactly, and
[00:05:33] well, he arrived. I arrived at 6 in the morning, let's say, I left very early and
[00:05:37] I said I can't be that lucky anymore. I spent the night there and
[00:05:40] well.
[00:05:47] "Lautaro, please," and he stops, he gets in the car, he was driving the car, he was driving the car, he rolls down the
[00:05:51] window and you know he has a particular face when you talk to him, and I got scared
[00:05:55] then, but I told him, "Well, I showed him the tattoo," and he was with his dad, thank God his dad could film that
[00:05:59] moment, I thank Pelusa because he also
[00:06:03] was very enthusiastic, it was something, it was something unique, the truth is that I couldn't
[00:06:07] record it, he gave you the shirt, he gave me the shirt, and when he hugged you, what did he
[00:06:10] say? No, eh, no, thank you very much, thank you very much, but the
[00:06:14] hug, guys, I swear to you, I tell
[00:06:17] today, you still feel it, you want to go to Italy to see him
[00:06:21] play and that's my idea, be careful, we can do the
[00:06:24] campaign from here, manifest, manifest, everything
[00:06:28] is manifested every year, guys, the truth is, let's go together,
[00:06:31] let's go together, come on, are you from Inter?
[00:06:34] It doesn't matter.
[00:06:38] Let him fulfill his dream and you fulfill yours, leave him alone.
[00:06:42] Yes, the reality is that, well, I told him that I changed the gender on my ID, I put
[00:06:46] Lautaro Javier like him, he couldn't believe it, he didn't understand anything, guys, the reality is that I talked for 10
[00:06:50] minutes, because if he was in the car line, he was already there, but why didn't he understand? That is, he didn't, he didn't understand you,
[00:06:54] he didn't understand why you put it.
[00:06:57] The reality, guys, is that from the national team, everyone is for
[00:07:01] Messi and the captain, and today the previous six, today tomorrow
[00:07:04] will be full for Messi's farewell, right? We all know, but
[00:07:08] I mean, so much love for Lautaro, he must not be so used to it here, at least.
[00:07:20] In fact, he is the team's captain, he is the one who manifests everything that has to do with Inter,
[00:07:24] he is the one who always shows his face, but well, thank God, a lot of people are following me,
[00:07:28] even people from Italy are watching me, I also send a big kiss because I told them I was going to
[00:07:31] be here, so for the possibility that I was really going to be here,
[00:07:35] who do I tell all the guys who are following me from Italy, his fans, fans in
[00:07:39] Italy, I don't have fans either, but yes, I say that many new
[00:07:43] followers, yes, and thanks to Crónica, it's giving me the opportunity, the truth is that I'm more than grateful,
[00:07:49] the city of Buenos Aires, there is a mural painted with
[00:07:52] Lautaro's head for the English goal, Lautaro's face,
[00:07:55] header, the header of the hand of God, the header, we didn't reach the final,
[00:07:58] guys, for me it was a World Cup won, I always said it,
[00:08:02] for me that game implied winning the World Cup, but you want Lautaro
[00:08:05] to be in a mural, that is, Lautaro's
[00:08:09] mural, my question is to
[00:08:50] show this, yes, we wanted to show, we wanted to manifest everything that is happening to you,
[00:08:53] we continue with the campaign, there is the hug,
[00:08:57] Lautaro and Lautaro, the double hug of the Lautaros, thanks for
[00:09:00] having thanks, very generous of you,
[00:09:04] eh, breaking news, let's go.
[00:09:06] Come on.
[00:09:12] moment,
[00:09:18] Brazil elects
[00:09:19] president,
[00:09:22] all divided between Lula and
[00:09:24] Bolsonaro,
[00:09:27] what suits
[00:09:28] Argentina?
[00:09:33] Bolsonaro's inner circle analyzes denouncing
[00:09:36] fraud,
[00:09:39] we are live, there is Flavio Bolsonaro, yes.
[00:09:42] Around him many people from his advisors talk
[00:09:46] about fraud, we are live in San Pablo, there is Quique Ortiz, Quique,
[00:09:50] Brazil votes,
[00:09:51] yours.
[00:09:55] Well, guys, yes, here really a calm, but
[00:09:59] total. A few minutes ago, when we had
[00:10:03] made the previous exit, it had not reached 48% of the
[00:10:06] voters who had arrived at this place precisely, we are already finding out,
[00:10:10] we will throw it in a minute. Just the exact figure, but
[00:10:14] look, let's see how much, come
[00:10:17] the 60, let's see the 60% of the
[00:10:24] the data that they just gave us just
[00:10:27] eh of the amount, but look
[00:10:29] practically 40% of the voters so far have not come to vote and
[00:10:32] you see that it is completely
[00:10:35] empty the place, there is no one in what
[00:10:38] remains still in a short time that remains of the voting to come
[00:10:42] to vote which is the strangest thing of all,
[00:10:45] obviously many say that there will be a lot of blank votes,
[00:10:49] we said it today. He was not happy with any of the
[00:10:53] candidates, he did not want to come to vote directly,
[00:10:57] you are seeing what the
[00:11:00] closing of the polls is at 17, they are
[00:11:03] waiting, practically everyone is drinking mate, people
[00:11:06] are not coming to vote since very early, we were noticing this,
[00:11:10] there was a significant movement of people who came between
[00:11:14] 12 and 14 hours, then
[00:11:17] it stalled again, only
[00:11:20] 60% in
[00:11:23] in the whole area eh, so that
[00:11:26] you have an idea of how it is in this part of
[00:11:29] Brazil, yes, two important things that they don't ask you here because none of them are journalists,
[00:11:33] first, is it hot, no? Where is it hotter, in Misiones or in
[00:11:36] Brazil? And second, you said they are drinking mate,
[00:11:40] and what are you? They are
[00:11:43] drinking mate, they drink mate, the Brazilians, I didn't know, it
[00:11:47] surprised me.
[00:11:50] Always mate, oh really, but no,
[00:11:53] totally, they have their yerba, in their yerba, look at the yerba of the
[00:11:57] national team, their yerba, eh, no, no, no, not ours, they have their yerba, they drink
[00:12:00] mate,
[00:12:03] eh, it's not the yerba of the national team exactly, because the yerba of the national team is
[00:12:06] more Argentine than Brazilian, the one they drink here is
[00:12:10] a mate, let's say, of a very fine yerba, you
[00:12:14] see, look, here they are, look, all with mate, from the
[00:12:17] president of the table, from the electoral board, look, here you
[00:12:21] have them, they are drinking mate, guys, obviously.
[00:12:25] Yes,
[00:12:28] yes, no, what you were saying, eh, you were showing, beyond the
[00:12:32] mate, that there were no people, and there is information, maybe you have
[00:12:36] information about this, that has to do with women fighting, Bolsonaro's
[00:12:39] supporters against those of the PT, the PT supporters
[00:12:42] in Salvador, in Bahia, we are seeing this, look how
[00:12:45] the women were fighting in the line, come on.
[00:12:49] Look, they are fighting, today we talked about the
[00:12:53] female vote, not inside the school,
[00:12:57] look, they went to vote,
[00:13:00] PT supporters, Bolsonaro supporters,
[00:13:03] look, there is the one in yellow and
[00:13:06] others, look how they were fighting,
[00:13:09] look how they were fighting,
[00:13:12] no fighting, no,
[00:13:14] what about the fights?
[00:13:22] Not only do they drink mate, but they also get
[00:13:25] into fistfights. What do you think? It all starts
[00:13:28] because she was dancing, you saw the Brazilian woman with the thing that
[00:13:32] she was dancing, she annoyed her,
[00:13:35] that's how the fight broke out, this
[00:13:39] also happens in Brazil live. Well, everything happened, here too it happened in the
[00:13:42] area, there were several fights
[00:13:43] there, but look, I wanted to tell you already
[00:13:46] by the way you were asking about mate, look at the atmosphere here.
[00:13:49] One second, look, I wanted to show the Brazilian yerba,
[00:13:53] guys, it's finer than ours here, it's here,
[00:13:56] eh, so you can say that Brazilians don't drink mate,
[00:14:00] well, where is the delegate?
[00:14:04] But I ask you for a second, just a second, Kique, I ask you for a
[00:14:07] second, we'll be back with you there because we are in another mobile unit, we are
[00:14:10] in Lula's bunker, we are live and direct in Lula's bunker
[00:14:14] waiting for the vote of the crucial
[00:14:17] election, election in Brazil, there is journalist Leonora Gozman. Thanks Eleonora
[00:14:20] for attending us at this moment. What is being said about this? What is
[00:14:24] being said? How is the situation regarding the
[00:14:28] vote? Look, it's undefined, it's
[00:14:31] uncertain, because one can win,
[00:14:34] the other can win, but not in this first
[00:14:37] round. In this first round, Lula will certainly win
[00:14:41] by a quite narrow margin, to the
[00:14:44] point that Bolsonaro Flavio is already talking
[00:14:47] about there being this.
[00:14:51] uh, what's it called, there can be fraud,
[00:14:53] ah, fraud, already talking about fraud, they are instigating, he is already talking
[00:14:57] about fraud, no, the elections are not over yet
[00:15:01] and he is already talking about fraud, well,
[00:15:04] this, which means that
[00:15:07] it is consistent
[00:15:11] with certain foreign policies, right?
[00:15:14] Basically, and certain policies promoted
[00:15:18] by Donald Trump, who does not trust the
[00:15:21] Brazilian elections and therefore Flavio is.
[00:15:25] let's say using that
[00:15:28] distrust to interfere himself in the
[00:15:32] elections with a message that is not appropriate
[00:15:35] when they have not finished yet. Now, Eleonora, which leaders will
[00:15:39] be arriving there, who will accompany Lula tonight
[00:15:43] at the end of this
[00:15:47] receive Lula in the afternoon, that is, we will have
[00:15:50] the journalists, we will have a press conference
[00:15:53] where he will speak and we will be able to ask him what
[00:15:56] we want, that is approximately
[00:15:59] scheduled for 7 in the
[00:16:01] evening.
[00:16:04] Eh, how about Ema, I wanted to ask you a question, go ahead. I really wanted to finish, who will
[00:16:07] accompany him, who will accompany him? Well, who
[00:16:10] accompanies him, the usual ones, his wife,
[00:16:13] Janja, eh, Marina
[00:16:17] Silva, eh, Simone, who
[00:16:20] are from his government and
[00:16:24] beloved by him, they are candidate assassinations and
[00:16:28] well, also surely the candidate
[00:16:31] for governor of San Pablo Fernando Haddad, that is,
[00:16:35] they are from his party. They are not
[00:16:38] parties, they are very close and they are within the alliance.
[00:16:41] Eleonora, how are you, Emanuel? He greets you, eh, based on your vast
[00:16:44] experience and your knowledge of Brazilian politics, what do you
[00:16:48] smell about this preliminary complaint that is being made,
[00:16:52] that Bolsonaro's supporters are making about a potential
[00:16:54] fraud? And many I don't like, why?
[00:16:58] Because it's what I was just saying, there was a whole
[00:17:01] campaign, I don't know, I think in Buenos Aires this was not
[00:17:05] well known, but there was a campaign that originated in the
[00:17:08] State Department of the United States,
[00:17:12] particularly from the Secretary of State Marco
[00:17:16] Rubio, whom Lula had said that despite
[00:17:19] being Latin American, that is, of Latin American
[00:17:22] parents, he did not like Latin American
[00:17:26] and South American countries. Well, why do I say it's a
[00:17:29] campaign? Because there were two letters, one sent
[00:17:32] by 30 representatives of the
[00:17:35] Congress, no, and another by... very important senators
[00:17:38] also who sent it
[00:17:42] precisely to
[00:17:45] eh eh to the Secretary of State who said in these
[00:17:50] the Brazilian elections because that can create a situation that in the
[00:17:53] future we may pay dearly for because it will make the
[00:17:57] relationship between the United States and
[00:18:00] Brazil uncomfortable." That
[00:18:04] is, to that was added that the Brazilian embassy.
[00:18:08] also by order of the Secretary of State, closed its
[00:18:11] doors on Friday,
[00:18:13] arguing
[00:18:17] that it stops there, we are in the bunker, we are in the
[00:18:20] bunker of Lula, in instants Lula from
[00:18:24] Eleonora Gozman just said it at 7 PM Lula speaks
[00:18:27] live, press conference at
[00:18:30] 7 PM, Lula speaks from 7 PM, Lula,
[00:18:34] the official candidate speaks, press conference. Eleonora, I
[00:18:38] wanted to ask you about, you
[00:18:41] the first round or in the first ballot, yes, the
[00:18:46] the second, what can happen?
[00:18:50] Look, eh, the following can happen, according to some
[00:18:53] polls, Lula would have a point, between one
[00:18:56] and two points of difference in the second
[00:18:59] round, yes, yes, but
[00:19:02] the issue is that there is a poll, a
[00:19:05] polling company that gives Flavio the win
[00:19:09] by one percentage point, by one point, it's
[00:19:13] complicated because it will be a very hard-fought, very
[00:19:16] close second round, of course, very this, exactly, and
[00:19:20] very narrow the margin, the margin of
[00:19:23] whoever triumphs, and to achieve that, what will he do,
[00:19:27] he will expand to the center, he will strengthen precisely his
[00:19:30] popularity in the most vulnerable sectors, will there be any change in
[00:19:34] strategy? Look, you talk about the next
[00:19:37] government, I talk about Lula in case he has to face
[00:19:41] Bolsonaro in a runoff, do you think he will continue with the same line or
[00:19:45] will he perhaps change his electoral strategy?
[00:19:49] Look, eh, I don't think it will change much, but there is a change, yes,
[00:19:52] sorry, there is a change, one thing is now when
[00:19:56] there is a set of candidates who are to the right, it's not
[00:20:00] only Bolsonaro, there are several, yes,
[00:20:03] approximately those who have representation are three.
[00:20:07] But in total there are 12 candidates, the thing is
[00:20:11] that many of them have zero percent, nothing,
[00:20:15] zero percent, good, having said
[00:20:18] this, the strategy will change, because then the
[00:20:21] confrontation will be direct, Lula,
[00:20:24] Flavio, good, if until now they had not
[00:20:28] been in a debate,
[00:20:30] it was because Lula did not accept and Flavio either,
[00:20:34] yes, but both will accept the debate that will take place
[00:20:38] before the second round, that is a change, it requires
[00:20:42] a radical change in strategy, I would say, communicationally,
[00:20:45] of course, now the same thing will happen as happened with Lula Yair
[00:20:49] Bolsonaro. Eleonora, thanks for talking to us, you are showing
[00:20:53] and you are there in Lula's bunker, at 7 PM Lula speaks,
[00:20:56] thanks Eleonora, very generous of you, on the contrary, bye,
[00:21:00] bye, bye, thanks, Quique, we continue live with you, a voting
[00:21:04] center, some people are still arriving to vote,
[00:21:06] Quique,
[00:21:09] Quique, wait, give us a second, give us just a second,
[00:21:11] because no, just now Eleonora was talking to
[00:21:15] ask Roberto, Eleonora was just talking about some changes.
[00:21:18] If the economy can change in three weeks, Lula can make
[00:21:22] some economic decision to benefit the sectors that
[00:21:25] are not supporting him today, Roberto, and
[00:21:29] only tax-wise, he can make some change, a tax reduction
[00:21:32] for a particular sector, but
[00:21:35] there are not many tools that can be applied in the short term,
[00:21:39] he already made the biggest move with this zero-gambling policy which is of
[00:21:42] vital importance because in all of Latin America
[00:21:45] there is a household debt problem through adolescents or young people who are
[00:21:49] betting on this type of platform, now I ask
[00:21:52] you, if Lula comes first, but doesn't win, because we are
[00:21:56] already talking about a second round, is this a symptom of
[00:21:59] weakness? How do you read that? The thing is that this is a divided
[00:22:03] country, what the voting in this election is showing
[00:22:06] is a divided country, and that's why Bolsonaro is going for fraud, it's always harder to
[00:22:10] prove to the one who is in government, right? So the opposition has it a little easier and not
[00:22:13] by coming out first does he win in the second round, not necessarily, that is, not
[00:22:17] necessarily, let's remember what happened in Argentina with
[00:22:21] Carlos Menem and Néstor Kirchner, there was no second
[00:22:24] round because Carlos Menem, who had won the first, would not win the
[00:22:27] second, and also because of the third ways because as they
[00:22:31] told us there are three candidates eh who have
[00:22:34] possibilities who could rally those votes and who are perhaps center-right
[00:22:37] candidates, yes, we are live, we just need a second,
[00:22:41] we continue showing what is happening, we continue live.
[00:22:44] in Brazil, just a second, breaking news, come on.
[00:22:48] attention, hot elections in
[00:22:52] Brazil,
[00:22:53] women fighting at a table
[00:23:00] in Salvador,
[00:23:06] yes, Carlos, Tami, in this
[00:23:07] case, unfortunately it is being
[00:23:10] seen who was the provocateur of these two factions of
[00:23:12] Bolsonarism with Lula
[00:23:15] and precisely the straw that broke the camel's back is where all that
[00:23:19] tension that had been building up during the entire election
[00:23:22] breaks out, what is striking
[00:23:25] between the men and in the background the straw that
[00:23:29] broke the camel's back is the provocation between the women
[00:23:32] that leads to this video that is already viral everywhere, this does not
[00:23:35] seem like an electoral context, it doesn't seem like. I don't know, a soccer field
[00:23:39] basically, how they yell, that's why it surprises me, it calls my
[00:23:42] attention, the lack of respect for the elections
[00:23:46] that are so important in a democracy, what happens in
[00:23:50] Brazil, you can enter with Lula's shirt, with Bolsonaro's
[00:23:53] shirt, you can make the gesture that you are going to vote for Lula, all that
[00:23:56] we are thanking our panel today, no Niara, Rojas
[00:23:59] e Rojas, thanks for having
[00:24:03] come, very generous, thank you very much for the invitation, as
[00:24:06] always thanks to Crónica, good. We continue live, Nayla, thanks
[00:24:10] too, very good coverage, good, thanks,
[00:24:14] Fran, eh, thanks too, we continue live, we are
[00:24:18] in Brazil, we continue watching, this is what happens in Salvador, that's how
[00:24:21] women fight in a school, a
[00:24:25] woman who supports Bolsonaro and a woman who supports Lula started
[00:24:28] talking, they started saying things, they ended up on the floor fighting,
[00:24:32] this is in Brazil, in Salvador, Quique also said
[00:24:35] that we are there, Quique, give us a second and we'll be back with you.
[00:24:39] there were also fights, this is what happens in Brazil, we are seeing a
[00:24:42] very close election, if for now, for now the
[00:24:46] exit polls give a slight advantage to Lula, this is what Leonora
[00:24:58] Gozman just said, who is in Lula's bunker, but watch out for what can
[00:25:01] happen in the second round and the situation of Flavio
[00:25:05] Bolsonaro, Bolsonaro's inner circle is talking about
[00:25:09] fraud. Well, that precisely has to do with the violence that is
[00:25:12] represented in these images, also the statements of
[00:25:16] Flavio Bolsonaro, talking about
[00:25:19] a potential fraud that would not worry
[00:25:23] Lula's inner circle too much because eh it had already
[00:25:26] been dismissed that these statements would arise at
[00:25:29] this time, that's why there was even a
[00:25:32] fight.
[00:25:36] desestimado que estos dichos iban a surgir en
[00:25:39] a video from the electoral commission
[00:25:43] that they asked to be removed from social networks because it confused the
[00:25:46] electorate. Well, we are seeing part of what has to
[00:25:50] do with the election in Brazil, all images,
[00:25:54] all images that have to do with this. There we are seeing where it is,
[00:25:58] this is how they voted, here it is, look, this is how they voted, this is what we are live.
[00:26:02] direct at this polling place at the door, here it is, let's stay a second hours
[00:26:05] until 18 or 18
[00:26:09] yes, generally, if there is
[00:26:13] can wait until 17. They are telling me it closes at 17, not
[00:26:16] at 18. The election closes at 17 in this
[00:26:20] place. Yes, it does not reach 50% of the
[00:26:23] electorate's vote. He just said here that more than
[00:26:26] 40% is missing. Be careful, it reaches around 50%. Something I
[00:26:30] am thinking is that the vote count is quite fast, right, with this
[00:26:34] electronic method because at 19 we will have the press conference
[00:26:38] of the different sectors. Well, Quique live at 17, this closes.
[00:26:41] esto,
[00:26:46] Yes, exactly. Well, you saw just now the military
[00:26:49] brigade that has come to announce that it has to close at
[00:26:53] 17 sharp. The first data will be
[00:26:56] released at 17:45,
[00:26:59] that is, 45 minutes later. After the
[00:27:03] polls close, we will have the first data from some
[00:27:06] departments, so this is something unusual in Argentina
[00:27:09] because the data is much later. Let's ask one of the
[00:27:13] delegates who is speaking here, one of the delegates, if I am not
[00:27:16] mistaken, from Bolsonaro. Tell me your
[00:27:20] name, Benito Luis, how did the elections unfold here? The elections here were
[00:27:23] calm, everyone is focused, there is this division,
[00:27:26] whoever is Bolsonaro is Bolsonaro, whoever
[00:27:30] is... Lula is Lula, it's very well defined,
[00:27:33] and we are hoping it works out for us. And there are some
[00:27:36] who are already talking about fraud, specifically from Bolsonaro's people.
[00:27:40] Why talk about fraud so early?
[00:27:44] Since early today, from what we are seeing, they have already started to
[00:27:49] facing problems today with the STJ there because they are
[00:27:53] you know, at the last minute changing laws
[00:27:56] like that, giving orders that are affecting candidates.
[00:27:59] In Paraná, they removed a candidate. They said that the person could not be
[00:28:03] a candidate at the last minute, who was
[00:28:06] a leader there. So it's
[00:28:10] these kinds of things, right? They are in government, they are in power, so
[00:28:13] it remains this
[00:28:17] this this
[00:28:19] completely at 7 PM Lula speaks. What do you expect Lula to
[00:28:23] say there because it's very fast, right? Practically
[00:28:26] 45 minutes later we will have the first data from the closing of the
[00:28:29] polls. What do you expect Lula to say? From Lula,
[00:28:33] we can expect anything, right, because
[00:28:36] we don't really believe what he says, right, doing our part
[00:28:39] like that. So but yes, I
[00:28:43] believe we still have a chance to win, for Bolsonaro to win in the first
[00:28:46] round now, right? I believe he will want to say that
[00:28:50] there is fraud too, he was saying that there was fraud in the United States, I don't know,
[00:28:53] right? I don't know. Well, that's what one of the
[00:28:57] delegates here says, then from Bolsonaro you see. voting
[00:29:00] kids,
[00:29:04] in general here, sorry,
[00:29:08] sorry for the interruption, but what this delegate also said
[00:29:10] is that if Flavio Bolsonaro
[00:29:14] were to win in the first round, Lula's inner circle
[00:29:18] is also already talking about fraud, that is, on both sides, depending
[00:29:22] on the winner, they are already talking about this. Flavio Bolsonaro says, or Bolsonaro's
[00:29:26] inner circle says, if Lula wins, be careful because there is fraud. He even talked about a
[00:29:29] situation that occurred in the state of Paraná, yes, a little further south
[00:29:32] of São Paulo, regarding
[00:29:36] thing he said is, yes, beware because Lula is also already talking about fraud because he knows
[00:29:40] that Bolsonaro can win in the first round. Sorry, Quique, for the interruption,
[00:29:43] go ahead.
[00:29:47] Yes, well, we are waiting 15 minutes
[00:29:50] before 5 PM we have to leave the place precisely because
[00:29:54] the whole brigade, the military police, will arrive to take
[00:29:58] over this whole area precisely to start taking the
[00:30:01] ballot boxes. These ballot boxes that are already digitally
[00:30:04] connected, they already send the data.
[00:30:07] So what can be said is that these
[00:30:10] first data from 5:45 PM will already
[00:30:13] be uploaded because they are all uploaded to the cloud. Today, when
[00:30:17] the two ballot boxes that we told you about, that had problems
[00:30:21] here, precisely part of our team asked what was happening
[00:30:24] with those who had already voted through these ballot boxes and they told us no,
[00:30:28] digitally all this uploads, meaning there is no problem. They will come to
[00:30:32] pick them up. At 5 PM sharp, the military police will come to pick
[00:30:35] up the ballot boxes at this place. Well, Quique, in one hour, in one hour you have
[00:30:39] all the results. We are live and direct. Stay here. This
[00:30:43] starts the ruru at 4 PM, it continues ruru, everything is ready. We are already seeing
[00:30:46] the kids, everything is ready for the run. There they are, look, there
[00:30:50] they are. Tell me something in Portuguese to close this historic day because he speaks
[00:30:53] very well.
[00:30:56] Guys, he speaks very well.