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[00:00:45] away with the motorcycle, but well, at the
[00:05:45] greeting, go ahead, well, what else is there, information also, besides what we're
[00:05:48] doing, exactly,
[00:05:50] urgent
[00:05:53] breaking news, 35 minutes past 9
[00:05:57] at night, 14 degrees, the night is
[00:06:00] cool, besides,
[00:06:03] it's drizzling, it's horrible, there are
[00:06:05] showers, yes, vigilante
[00:06:09] delivery drivers, these videos that
[00:06:13] Jorge brings, they went in a mob to recover the stolen
[00:06:16] motorcycle, that's becoming a custom,
[00:06:19] they broke into a house and set a
[00:06:22] car on fire.
[00:06:30] to work on the street, to give your life for a plate of
[00:06:32] food,
[00:06:35] these are the images, right Jorge, exactly, they are
[00:06:38] from Tigre, right there they are being.
[00:06:50] this distribution group in this northern zone, they located the motorcycle using a
[00:06:54] satellite system in a place that had a facade,
[00:06:57] which disguised itself as a motorcycle repair shop,
[00:07:00] when the reality was completely different, it was a place where stolen
[00:07:04] motorcycles were stored, well, more than 100 delivery drivers from this area gathered, they went
[00:07:08] to that place, they carried out the minimum indispensable force,
[00:07:11] listen.
[00:07:43] This one went well, in others they can shoot you, no, well, the police also
[00:07:46] intervened, there is one person detained who, well, their identity
[00:07:50] and physical appearance are preserved
[00:07:53] because they will be subjected to a lineup given that
[00:07:57] they would have been a criminal who had more than one trophy
[00:08:00] there it is, there it is, they recover it, oh, they recover the motorcycle
[00:08:04] they went to look for, that was stolen, that's it, exactly, that's the motorcycle that had been
[00:08:08] stolen from this guy, they recovered it, they celebrate there, but well, the police also intervene,
[00:08:11] as you rightly said just now, the Tigre
[00:08:15] police intervene, they arrest the one who is
[00:08:19] indicated as being the material author of the theft of that motorcycle and who kept them in that
[00:08:22] place together with other motorcycles that also had legal impediments, you saw that there was a
[00:08:26] sign at the entrance that said mechanical workshop,
[00:08:30] yes, what they tell me and I thank Ricardo Rivero, who, well, fights, no,
[00:08:33] because there is more security for motorcyclists who are
[00:08:37] clandestine motorcycle workshops, they hoard
[00:08:40] stolen motorcycle parts, and, and the funny thing, he
[00:08:43] tells me, in inverted commas, is that many of
[00:08:46] those mechanics are ex-convicts who took
[00:08:50] motorcycle mechanics classes in prison to get out earlier, to
[00:08:55] they do is, well, repair motorcycles and use them, you know that behind
[00:08:59] that there's also a big lie because they take those light motorcycle mechanics courses, but
[00:09:03] to be able to disassemble it in less than 20
[00:09:06] minutes and that way insert it into the black market for auto parts, that's why
[00:09:09] these guys take the accelerated motorcycle mechanics course, why?
[00:09:13] To have the practicality of disassembling it without damaging the parts and thus being able to
[00:09:16] sell it in the circuit, the circuit of
[00:09:19] illegality, that is, to, to understand, all the
[00:09:23] delivery drivers went, they went to recover the motorcycle, they
[00:09:26] recover it,
[00:09:28] and they take justice into their own hands, no, they
[00:09:30] deliver it, they didn't hit him,
[00:09:34] they notified 911 that they had already found the motorcycle, a patrol car
[00:09:38] came and the patrol car managed to enter with the consent of a family member,
[00:09:41] the property. They made a kind of aisle, they took him out, you see they didn't
[00:09:45] hit him, they put him in the patrol car and he is submitted to
[00:09:48] justice by due process, no, everyone, let's look, guys, for the other one, the
[00:09:52] one I just marked in the group because that one,
[00:09:55] yes, they destroyed the whole house, they burned the cars, and that one, and there's
[00:09:59] a video, there's a video that, that, that hurts
[00:10:02] a lot, I understand it happened yesterday,
[00:10:05] eh, that a guy was on his motorcycle and
[00:10:09] they shot him directly, they break it, they break the...
[00:10:15] in the femur, exactly, exactly, he was at the door of a store making a purchase at night, yes, that's right,
[00:10:19] this guy wanted to recover it, he wanted
[00:10:21] to fight, he wanted to fight with the criminals, and
[00:10:25] and clearly, eh, it went wrong, it's that the device is very cheap for
[00:10:29] them to track you, it's a tack that you can put in a
[00:10:32] backpack,
[00:10:35] you have to put that little device that goes in the seat and that you activate
[00:10:39] with a button and it gives you 220, I have it at home unused,
[00:10:43] I have it, they gave it to me, I have it, I would
[00:10:46] never put it on the motorcycle, why, why, because you press it, the guy is
[00:10:50] 20 meters away and he comes looking for you, he always has some support to
[00:10:54] look for. an electric shock from there, the
[00:10:57] partner and the support stays like that from the father
[00:11:00] because the bobelinos are cooked alive, they come looking for you and it's very
[00:11:04] good.
[00:11:06] It's very good, but you activate it and run
[00:11:10] moment you have to see how it's simple, you activate the current cut and activate
[00:11:13] that electrification system and you leave and ultimately the guy will be
[00:11:17] electrified, the motorcycle is 50 meters away, it's not
[00:11:20] that you can, well, we have more videos, I want more
[00:11:24] videos, there's the video, the one I marked, that one does end badly, eh, I want
[00:11:28] more videos, let's see, I want more videos, they recover the
[00:11:31] motorcycle, yes, but they also take reprisals against
[00:11:35] the people who lived in the house, it's this
[00:11:38] because they're going to burn their car, they're going to break the whole
[00:11:42] house, the Venezuelan actresses, how is all this lived
[00:11:45] in Venezuela too, yes, bravo too, but now, now I'm going
[00:11:49] to ask you this, Jorge, in this case, the situation is similar to the previous one,
[00:11:53] here there was more violence because they set a vehicle on fire, there was
[00:11:56] stone-throwing at the property, why? To get them to hand
[00:12:00] over the motorcycle that was inside that place, why? Because the Satellite Rafael also showed that
[00:12:04] it was in that house, also, redundantly and the, and
[00:12:08] the, and the similarity to the procedures, there was also a
[00:12:11] clandestine motorcycle workshop, the motorcycle was inside, they
[00:12:14] recover it but they set a car on fire, they threw stones at the house, there were
[00:12:17] blows, there were blows, there was a, a kind of justice
[00:12:21] by their own hand that didn't escalate, it didn't escalate.
[00:12:25] The individual who was responsible for that mechanic
[00:12:28] workshop is also detained, he is submitted to justice, as he said before, like this one,
[00:12:32] surely the judicial diligence that will incriminate him will be
[00:12:36] the recognition in a lineup, that's why they take him with his
[00:12:41] summon the parties who are victims, they can make a recognition in a lineup
[00:12:45] and point him out as the material author, consequently he remains detained, how
[00:12:48] important, we have communications, if you are a
[00:12:51] delivery driver or make orders, if you make deliveries, it would be good. if you
[00:12:55] communicate with us to also have testimonies of this new
[00:12:58] modality, let's say it's been around for a while but it's becoming more and more
[00:13:01] widespread, no, exactly, let's enable 115345
[00:13:05] 0291, if you have a random video, not
[00:13:09] of an activity of this kind in which you were able to recover the motorcycle, send it, we will preserve your
[00:13:13] identity, we will show it on air, we will tell the story, we will explain it, and if you can,
[00:13:16] give us a little context of what happened, but well, write to us
[00:13:20] 115345 0291, we will
[00:13:23] read you live and direct and you can relax. We will preserve your identity so you can be calm,
[00:13:27] yes, that, that video, I want, today I want the one that ended badly, play it with
[00:13:30] audio, this one ended badly, fire, they have seen a Renault 19 at the
[00:13:33] door, they start hitting each other, I don't see it as serious,
[00:13:37] well, look how it turned out, you see it as
[00:13:40] serious, they are committing a crime, at 6 in the
[00:13:44] morning calling me, breaking this with me, what is it that
[00:13:47] worries you, nothing, no, no, deserved, eh, many
[00:13:50] times they leave the motorcycle at a
[00:14:06] also from Alert City, they are brave, yes, no, clear, they start
[00:14:09] writing quickly, eh, there they set
[00:14:13] the car on fire, they also arrest, they go to look for a motorcycle, they recover the
[00:14:16] motorcycle, eh, and they set a car on fire,
[00:14:20] but there they take reprisals against the house, they start, not only that
[00:14:23] car, there was another one at the door, two, this is just the moment it
[00:14:27] begins, look at the neighbors, the owners of the house, they leave the house because
[00:14:31] they say they're coming for everything, and look how the Renault 19 ends up,
[00:14:34] burned, the house destroyed, they ripped out the openings, let's do
[00:14:38] one thing, let's do one thing until they put up the next
[00:14:41] video, I want to start first with the
[00:14:44] ladies always, Luz, let's pass the microphone to
[00:14:47] Luz, yes, Luz, what do you think of all this, what you see, do you think it's good,
[00:14:51] what, what, the truth, eh,
[00:14:56] it's horrible everything that's happening,
[00:14:58] viviendo,
[00:15:01] eh, sometimes, sometimes you know what, I feel
[00:15:04] helpless, I say it because I'm not going to say it on
[00:15:07] air, because you and Diego know what happened with my son
[00:15:11] José, sometimes it's about
[00:15:14] giving up the whole motorcycle, but life is the most
[00:15:18] valuable thing, material things don't matter, but there are
[00:15:20] people who have their motorcycle to work, to
[00:15:24] earn a living. And truly,
[00:15:27] it's terrible that a worker has their
[00:15:31] motorcycle stolen, anyone, no, I don't agree with vigilantism,
[00:15:34] no, but you know why? There are
[00:15:38] parents, helpless children,
[00:15:41] so
[00:15:44] that doesn't mean it's right, that it's not right, that
[00:15:47] they take justice into their own hands,
[00:15:51] by their own hand, no, but the
[00:15:55] say is, you can make a citizen's
[00:15:58] arrest, it's contemplated, you can
[00:16:01] do one using the minimum necessary
[00:16:05] force to reduce,
[00:16:07] yes, but now in this case they are committing a lot of
[00:16:11] crimes, eh, because there's home invasion, because they are entering someone's
[00:16:15] house without any judicial authorization, without police
[00:16:18] presence, they are causing damage because they
[00:16:21] set the cars on fire and they hit people too, it's that maybe
[00:16:25] doing that solves things, that is, they are getting into trouble, no, doing that makes you
[00:16:29] worse than the other person, you are worse or
[00:16:32] equal to the other person, doing
[00:16:35] that, burning cars, that is wrong. because also, eh, the
[00:16:39] family is not to blame for what the opinion of Luz, let's see,
[00:16:42] let's move on to, let's see, let's start, what was it, I forgot your
[00:16:45] name, Karen, Karen, this
[00:16:49] is, it is seen in Venezuela, it is not seen, there are
[00:16:52] types of these robberies,
[00:16:55] eh, how do people react there, what is the culture like, as everywhere
[00:16:58] there are good people as there are bad people, eh, this
[00:17:02] type of things used to happen in Venezuela but more than
[00:17:06] 15 years ago or currently it's not as intense as
[00:17:10] before, let's say, eh, but nothing, the
[00:17:13] truth is that it is a horror,
[00:17:16] eh, do you think it's right or wrong, vigilante
[00:17:20] justice, and it's complicated, no,
[00:17:23] you have to risk it, you come here to risk it,
[00:17:25] no, black, to risk it, yes, clear, let's
[00:17:28] see, eh, ah, it needs
[00:17:30] consensus, well, here it's like
[00:17:34] sisters, you see, it's a two for one, also from
[00:17:37] Venezuela, I think it concerns both of us,
[00:17:40] clear, eh, it's complicated, it's complicated, to add
[00:17:43] something, many Venezuelans, many
[00:17:46] compatriots work on those motorcycles, no, many, many, many,
[00:17:50] exactly, I heard Luz a little and it's true that it makes you
[00:17:53] angry, it's frustrating, that they take your job, that they take something
[00:17:57] that you use every day to support a family or
[00:18:01] support yourself, obviously, nothing,
[00:18:04] a total commotion was generated, obviously in this situation.
[00:18:07] But if you ask me, for example, about Venezuela, I confirm what
[00:18:11] my colleague says, that it also went down a bit there,
[00:18:14] give me, give me a second, give me a second, something is happening, give me the plaque,
[00:18:18] go ahead. Let's go.
[00:18:22] Breaking news, 47 minutes past 9
[00:18:25] at night.
[00:18:29] Cristian Luna calls us urgently, do you remember who
[00:18:33] Cristian Luna is? He's the guy who came asking for help at the channel's
[00:18:36] door. They chased me when
[00:18:39] I went out to buy, who chased
[00:18:41] him?
[00:18:45] As a protected witness, in theory, for having reported an illicit
[00:18:49] association, Cristian, good evening, Diego Nawul and the whole
[00:18:52] "Tierra de Nadie" team, how are you?
[00:18:55] Hello, yes, I'm bad, I'm scared because
[00:18:59] he leaves with roosters and he
[00:19:01] started to come out white that I have the license plate, yes, I could
[00:19:04] notice it,
[00:19:07] but... wait, Cristian, listen to me, Cristian,
[00:19:10] listen to me, you are today in a
[00:19:14] protected witness program, you are supposedly being protected and you have to
[00:19:18] be in a designated place and they told me they would come back and they never
[00:19:21] came back, how? Oh, the guard left you, he told you they would
[00:19:25] come back and they left you
[00:19:28] to your own luck? At 4 in the afternoon they told me another guard would come back and no one
[00:19:31] came back, is it true that they asked you not to talk to the
[00:19:34] press? No, I don't know, I don't know, because yes, they
[00:19:38] told me that, not to talk, not to talk to the press, not to talk anymore,
[00:19:41] now if your life is in danger and the escort they were supposed to provide wasn't there, but they are
[00:19:44] the ones who have to protect me, and the
[00:19:47] car, isn't it the escort's car, the white car, the Etios,
[00:19:50] I don't think so, because otherwise, after a white Toyota blocked my car from
[00:19:54] in front and you should have told me I'm the police,
[00:19:57] no, ah, this, ah, they
[00:20:00] intimidated you,
[00:20:03] clear, all this seemed,
[00:20:06] eh, the two trucks, two white SsangYongs, one single cab and one double
[00:20:10] cab, that,
[00:20:14] eh, what the neighbors there from the neighborhood where my ex's
[00:20:17] supposed lover lives told me, they are trucks that
[00:20:21] he has for a company, the company, okay,
[00:20:25] don't tell me where you are because if you are in the protected
[00:20:28] witness program, you can't say where you are, I doubt that
[00:20:32] you are protected as a witness because you couldn't
[00:20:36] go for a walk alone on the street, not to buy anything, clear, you
[00:20:40] were in that situation, yes, clear, so I know how
[00:20:43] it works, they called you from the justice of
[00:20:47] Córdoba, no, no,
[00:20:52] and who put you in protected witness program, who told
[00:20:56] you? Eh, the police from there told me, the police
[00:20:59] personnel, clear, you signed an act
[00:21:02] that says that from this moment on you enter
[00:21:06] the protected witness program and that you cannot say where you are or
[00:21:10] speak or this, so you are not in, you are not anywhere,
[00:21:14] no, no, they clearly
[00:21:17] deceived him and they want to silence him. Here, Cristian,
[00:21:21] they want you, someone wants to silence you, eh,
[00:21:24] how did you get back yesterday?
[00:21:28] I got back in a car that had a
[00:21:31] search warrant, oh, you came back on your own accord, clear, he's not in any
[00:21:34] protected witness program, no, no, no, guys, but who told you that you are
[00:21:38] in a protected witness program? They had
[00:21:41] told me, the police there told me that I should live here, that they would
[00:21:44] come here, they sent me a thing, then one came who
[00:21:48] told me that the police who... Oh, well, wait, they arrived and the police from the escort
[00:21:52] identified themselves, that, but
[00:21:55] then, I'm not telling you, he disappeared and told me he would be back
[00:21:59] later,
[00:22:01] but Cristian, Cristian, listen, Cristian, I have a doubt, Cristian, yesterday when
[00:22:05] you were at the police station, carrying out judicial diligence of the
[00:22:08] notification, did police personnel from Córdoba arrive there and tell
[00:22:12] you that you were in that protected witness program, did any police officer from Córdoba
[00:22:16] identify themselves with a, with a credential? No,
[00:22:20] that, that, that they first told me they would go, then they told me no, that
[00:22:24] I, eh, should go on my own means, that they would wait for me here, well, and today you
[00:22:27] said that you had a guard who left at 4 in the afternoon, that police
[00:22:31] guard was a police officer from what police force identified
[00:22:35] themselves to you as well? Yes, he told me he was a police officer, he showed
[00:22:38] me a student ID, I don't know, but he was in plain clothes or was he
[00:22:40] uniformed? He was, he was in
[00:22:43] plain clothes,
[00:22:47] ah, what, what did you say? No, no, everything seems
[00:22:50] strange to me, everything seems strange to me, and who told you that
[00:22:54] you could only talk for 3 minutes on the phone, hello,
[00:22:57] who told you that you could only talk for 3 minutes on
[00:23:01] the phone?
[00:23:03] Eh, they had told me that I couldn't talk, that I should communicate with that
[00:23:06] phone, the police told you that?
[00:23:10] Oh, the police told you that? Yes, but not to communicate with the
[00:23:13] media, nothing, that you don't communicate with the media, what police
[00:23:16] told
[00:23:19] you? Who are these people following? I don't know anyone, but
[00:23:22] they should have identified themselves if they blocked my car from
[00:23:25] in front, they blocked my car from in front, I got
[00:23:29] in and escaped, Cristian, I'll explain to you, what madness,
[00:23:33] I'll explain to you, but what seemed most strange to me is that those two
[00:23:36] trucks, the white SsangYongs that the
[00:23:40] neighbors told me about, he sent photos, they are the same truck as that
[00:23:43] man, the alleged lover of my ex
[00:23:47] who would be participating in this scam
[00:23:50] circuit, exactly, and it seems
[00:23:53] that he has a relative who is in the force or something
[00:23:57] like that because the people there say they are afraid because the police chief
[00:24:01] there was asking around everywhere who was publishing things
[00:24:05] and they are looking for him,
[00:24:10] guys, it would be good to tell the complaint he made, not the
[00:24:13] violence one because we can't talk about that one, you are forbidden to talk in a
[00:24:17] restraining order, yes, but in the illicit association one, yes, the thing is
[00:24:20] that, let's see, what doesn't make sense to me is yesterday
[00:24:24] he came asking for help at the channel's door, the
[00:24:27] note was being made, police personnel came,
[00:24:31] it is verified that he does not have an arrest warrant,
[00:24:35] clear, suddenly they take him
[00:24:38] to the police
[00:24:44] cannot talk to the media
[00:24:47] when it's not the police
[00:24:50] personnel's responsibility, yes, you, it's not
[00:24:54] the police personnel's responsibility to tell you that you cannot talk to
[00:24:57] any journalist,
[00:25:00] I don't know, a judge issued an order, they had communicated from Córdoba that I could not
[00:25:04] talk to the media, let's see, but how not, they don't communicate from Córdoba, yes,
[00:25:08] God also communicated a while ago, God called me and
[00:25:11] told me, "Hey, don't talk, we have to notify him, we have to notify
[00:25:14] everyone," they showed the judicial order, clear, but well,
[00:25:18] after that, no.
[00:25:27] It's all strange, eh, can you
[00:25:30] makes you feel persecuted, according to you, threatened with
[00:25:33] death, what does the complaint of
[00:25:37] illicit association consist of with these two sons of your
[00:25:41] ex-wife who would be detained?
[00:25:44] They are about scams, prison
[00:25:47] scams, virtual scams.
[00:25:51] Why are they, why are they detained?
[00:25:54] guys it seems the line is tapped, right?
[00:25:58] because of the signal but suddenly we
[00:25:59] it's
[00:26:02] do you hear us well there? do you hear us?
[00:26:05] yes, tell me why are your ex's two sons
[00:26:09] detained? One is detained for for for
[00:26:12] homicide,
[00:26:15] attempted robbery homicide, and another is detained because they caught him with two kilos of
[00:26:18] drug, with 2 kg of cocaine. Yes, last
[00:26:22] year, well, they all continue acting like this. This one has been doing it for
[00:26:26] eight years, I think, they gave him about 13 and he was about to get out now,
[00:26:29] I think. They commit scams
[00:26:32] from prison and they would pass the money to your ex.
[00:26:36] Exactly, and there are a lot of things that don't add up,
[00:26:39] guys, there are a lot of things that don't add up. I, one
[00:26:43] opinion, I don't give advice, we are adults, I would leave
[00:26:46] the province quickly. Well, that's what you're saying,
[00:26:50] what you're saying, grandmother, here here several
[00:26:53] televidentes, que se raje donde está porque esta noche no la va a
[00:26:57] kill him. Several viewers are telling me that
[00:27:00] they have an opinion on the case that they... They've had him since yesterday, they are following him now
[00:27:04] and they are giving me an opinion, Christian, an opinion from the viewer who says that the
[00:27:07] person this
[00:27:10] person from the boat, they told me
[00:27:13] that this person who is the
[00:27:17] businessman supposedly has a company that works
[00:27:20] directly for the state, for the government.
[00:27:24] The alleged lover has political ties, political ties, you're talking about, right
[00:27:27] Christian? Well, look, people have seen many cases. Obviously, they don't
[00:27:31] make mistakes, they have a perception from the other side of the TV from which they give
[00:27:35] us a perspective and the perspective, because I'm scared, I don't know, but the perspective
[00:27:38] the viewer gives us is that you have to run away from
[00:27:42] where you are. I don't know if you're in Buenos Aires, in Córdoba, in Santa Fe, if you're with protection or without
[00:27:46] protection, but it seems to me that you are in a place where if they know where you
[00:27:50] are now, anything can happen at any
[00:27:53] moment. I think you have to leave and people here are saying it, the news
[00:27:57] line, nobody's land line, I'm going to try, I'm going to try to leave
[00:28:00] here but I don't know where to go
[00:28:03] either, it's not like he has a lot of money, I don't know, he has to work, he has a mechanic shop, it's not
[00:28:07] like you can say, I don't have, I don't have, I don't have a single peso left.
[00:28:10] Clear. And the guys who were with you, Christian, what happened? The ones who were
[00:28:14] accompanying you yesterday? The guys who were with you who were accompanying you yesterday, what
[00:28:17] happened to them? Now I went to pick one up to accompany me because I'm scared, I mean, at
[00:28:21] least let him be with me, but I'm also putting him in danger, he has a family,
[00:28:25] he has his life, I'm scared something might happen to
[00:28:28] him. That's why the information must be clear, guys. The
[00:28:31] information, I know Christian, I'm explaining that the
[00:28:34] information must be clear, because we
[00:28:38] understood today here that you
[00:28:40] had entered the protected witness program,
[00:28:44] which is a lie, because you wouldn't be able to talk, you wouldn't
[00:28:48] be able to be alone on the street, no, you wouldn't.
[00:28:52] Yes, that is, and that's all in writing, a
[00:28:55] federal judge supports it, a federal prosecutor, a guarantee
[00:28:58] judge here, someone supports it and you enter
[00:29:02] a little house they put you in that nobody knows where
[00:29:05] it is. That didn't happen, none of
[00:29:08] that happened, so we are protected witnesses of nothing and as soon as these people
[00:29:12] who are looking for you want to find you, they will find you, so
[00:29:15] I don't understand what they did yesterday and what they are doing
[00:29:18] today and I don't know, I don't understand that either and to the
[00:29:22] police station, I imagine, given this scenario, you don't even want to
[00:29:25] go to the police station, it's like going into the lion's den. But I don't know if
[00:29:29] they are involved with the police because they tell me that this guy...
[00:29:49] Did you report this man by name and last name? How did you
[00:29:52] report him by name and last name?
[00:29:55] No, because I don't know who he is, what
[00:29:58] they say is that they know him from the neighborhood but they don't even know his last name, they only know his name.
[00:30:02] Just that, but he must have come out in defense of
[00:30:05] your ex, who would be the lover, he would have come out in defense of your
[00:30:08] ex, who would be, supposedly the lover he has
[00:30:12] now. Let's see, Jorge has information, uh, a question because
[00:30:16] several viewers, I tell you again, give us information, give
[00:30:19] us a perspective, but a question I seriously ask you,
[00:30:23] you have no intention of taking your
[00:30:27] life, of attempting against your life, right? No, no, no, no, I make it
[00:30:30] very clear, no, no, exactly.
[00:30:33] That, we never wanted to know that because many viewers asked us because what if
[00:30:36] tonight he appears to have committed suicide, that's why I
[00:30:39] asked
[00:30:42] right, that's why I went there so you know very well that I will never
[00:30:46] do something like this, I love my children, for
[00:30:50] example, and my children know that I fight for
[00:30:54] them, I always fought. Right, you came from Cordoba for that, demanding to see
[00:30:57] your son for that, because of my son.