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[00:00:02] topic and go sing to Gardel, I'll ask you
[00:00:30] not even on the phone with her, you don't even know if it's true or false,
[00:00:33] it seems to you, you don't know any,
[00:00:35] their own home they are plotting the worst, but what they plot is very macabre, the situation now at 3:11 in the of course, the whole issue of illicit enrichment and everything that is
[00:00:38] very serious, justice has to prove it and you say no
[00:00:42] happily because you were at home and you said let's go, someone invincible for a
[00:00:46] while and because her brother
[00:00:50] specifically from but I told you I wasn't going to call her
[00:00:53] now because neither yesterday nor today because I know she's being called from a lot of places,
[00:00:57] what does that have to do with her? Why doesn't she come out with? I don't understand
[00:01:01] of course we call her if she doesn't want to leave, what does that have to do with it? I'm going to
[00:01:04] call her with Rulo and Rulo every show that
[00:01:07] he called me I went, they know each other from another
[00:01:10] life but but sorry, of course I
[00:01:14] know Emma Bich two
[00:01:17] years ago, guys, since I left Big
[00:01:18] Brother
[00:01:21] We didn't know what she was doing, sorry to say
[00:01:24] because I haven't seen him for two years, I haven't seen him for two
[00:01:28] years, Romina, I have a phone.
[00:02:00] Bad bitch, let's see if you're a bad bitch, no,
[00:02:03] it's a joke that's not funny. She doesn't answer. She must be busy, she must be recording something, this
[00:02:07] girl is on TV now.
[00:02:10] I just talked to a friend of hers. She's very angry,
[00:02:14] she's very angry at home, she's very stop, I'm going to text her on WhatsApp, she's dealing with a lot
[00:02:18] of things, guys, she has the girls who go to school,
[00:02:21] she comes we have
[00:02:25] if you want to talk about kids, I'll tell you, I'm standing
[00:02:28] here, we have with Guys, look, I want to say something,
[00:02:32] Romina has several, I'm serious, now she has
[00:02:35] several cases, it's real, Lore said it and we already know it, this
[00:02:39] seems to me like an
[00:02:42] unsubstantiated accusation, if she doesn't
[00:02:46] appear in the disability records
[00:02:48] and I don't see the
[00:02:51] laminated paper in her car
[00:02:54] in her possession, it's an unsubstantiated accusation, because
[00:02:57] tomorrow they're going to tell me, Rulo has a
[00:03:00] certificate, Rulo went yesterday to such a place, man, show me
[00:03:03] a photo, show me a video, Romina is being
[00:03:07] attacked for free now,
[00:03:09] about this, Cris, because I mean, it arises because I'm writing to Romina, let's
[00:03:11] illegal, if they put it in someone else's see if she answers me, I'm going to do the thing, what's his name, Rodrigo Lusich, if she sends me an
[00:03:17] fallen behind regarding the advancement of audio, sorry, sorry, I'll cross, send her an audio, send her an audio, of course,
[00:03:21] Romina, how are you, I'm Rulo with Merina Fladerman,
[00:03:24] greetings from my WhatsApp, but it doesn't matter, we're on air, I'm
[00:03:27] defending you because for me that certificate. no one in the world has seen
[00:03:31] it, brother, an audio from his brother, he always talks like that,
[00:03:35] Romi, but of course, send us an audio, you know we're not brothers, no, of course, they're not
[00:03:38] brothers, and if you're water and oil, no, I tell her
[00:03:41] we're water and oil, Rom, well, because we, well,
[00:03:45] it doesn't matter, well, we could be brothers, yes, from the same
[00:03:48] community, send us an audio, Romi, if you can, the audio is too long, I'm not going to
[00:03:52] listen to it, I wrote it anyway, put it
[00:03:55] in transcription, I'm not leaving here until she answers, okay,
[00:03:58] perfect, remember when Natale kicked her out?
[00:04:01] Yes, I'm staying here until Romina answers
[00:04:05] or Andrea in the control room faints, those are two things
[00:04:08] that happen first, that
[00:04:29] came from because wait, excuse me, I forgot I don't know who Bambi is yet.
[00:04:32] Well, do you want me to tell you a little about the story? It's like this, he's a boy who
[00:04:36] left Big Brother, he was inside the house for a very short time, oh, he was in
[00:04:39] the house, he did more outside here inside in the third
[00:04:42] season, season one,
[00:04:46] volume, season, turn up the
[00:04:49] volume, we're going to see what Bambi says, let's see, Bambi the
[00:04:53] invincible, I know, after leaving
[00:04:57] Big Brother in 2025, last year, and well, some friends, so much
[00:05:00] so that she invited me to stay at her house to stay
[00:05:04] no, uh well, I agreed to stay with Romina, I don't know, for like
[00:05:08] 3 months at most, there was a time when I went back to San
[00:05:11] Rafael. I came here, she called me to
[00:05:15] ask me if I would agree
[00:05:18] to like, I don't know, put my
[00:05:21] name on her new car that she had bought,
[00:05:25] uh and I said well, she gave me the
[00:05:28] excuse that she had, well, legal problems with her ex-partner, that
[00:05:32] she was afraid that her ex-partner would also keep her
[00:05:36] car, nothing, I told her well, for the girls too and
[00:05:40] because to return the favor that she had beaten me, and time later I realized that she had
[00:05:43] manipulated me, access to put the car in my name, it was in mid-
[00:05:47] November last
[00:05:48] year,
[00:05:52] this is Bambi, don't punch this Bambi, he was in Big
[00:05:54] Brother,
[00:05:58] he talks like that because he talks like that,
[00:06:02] why can't he report anyone, he can't report anyone
[00:06:06] d
[00:06:09] why not? Because he has no foundation, guys, please, please.
[00:06:12] I think
[00:06:15] what he says is totally nefarious, that he
[00:06:18] manipulated me for a year, guys, he was eating at home for free for a
[00:06:21] year, he didn't pay rent for a
[00:06:23] year.
[00:06:26] It was, okay, I understand what you're saying, if that
[00:06:29] were the case and he goes out to make fake complaints, he's totally
[00:06:33] right, uh Romina, now, wait, because what
[00:06:37] Bambi says wait, what Bambi says
[00:06:40] before the issue of the disability certificate is that she
[00:06:44] asked him to put a Mercedes Benz car in his name because she didn't want
[00:06:48] to have problems with her ex-partner because she's getting divorced, so he
[00:06:52] wanted to because Romina was going to put it in the name of another friend and he
[00:06:55] felt committed. Do you know what that's called in the civil code? It's a
[00:06:59] ferro, it's
[00:07:03] an illicit simulation, oh,
[00:07:06] an illicit simulation, but sorry, she wasn't legally married to
[00:07:10] him, she was legally married, she was legally married, she
[00:07:14] puts the car in someone else's name, so that it doesn't
[00:07:17] fall within her assets, and it's
[00:07:20] something that if you prove it, she's
[00:07:23] sorry, but I want to understand this car case, answer me,
[00:07:27] Ema, if anyone here knows, Bambi refuses to
[00:07:31] transfer it to her because of what the transfer costs, which is logical, or he says I'm not going to
[00:07:35] transfer it to you and I'll keep it, I don't understand that part, no, I
[00:07:38] I knew because it cost a lot of money,
[00:07:41] it cost like...
[00:08:13] Besides, I don't know if a fortune, but she's been working since she
[00:08:17] left Big Brother, if we make a fortune here, I imagine on TV they must pay
[00:08:20] more, she's been passing from car to car, guys, she
[00:08:24] used to have a Territory, she used to have another car, gathering
[00:08:27] she put some
[00:08:28] money,
[00:08:37] also, guys, for
[00:08:38] God's sake,
[00:09:42] What's wrong, Melina?
[00:09:46] We were asking questions until in a
[00:09:49] minute,
[00:09:51] people, I'm going to, sorry, it's like an intimate moment with Lorena
[00:09:54] Tosso.
[00:09:55] Lorena,
[00:09:59] she has the Mercedes in her name. No, she asked
[00:10:02] him to put a Mercedes-Benz car in her name to
[00:10:06] avoid whose name the car is currently in. We don't know, because Bambi says
[00:10:09] that he didn't want to put it in his name, so he probably already has it. So the
[00:10:13] discussion is that she asked him a favor that he didn't do, he went out to tell
[00:10:17] that and he went out to tell about issues that had to do with their
[00:10:20] internal fights, but what he denounces beyond the car
[00:10:23] is in the... issue of the disability certificate, because the
[00:10:27] disability certificate is the only one who says it, we'll have to see if that
[00:10:30] certificate exists, doesn't exist, and if
[00:10:33] it exists, if it's true or if it's fake, if it's
[00:10:36] true, who gave it to her, because she shouldn't have it, and if
[00:10:40] it's fake, how did they fake it, which we also have to discover, not Gabriela Mandato, I
[00:10:44] don't know if what this guy says is true
[00:10:47] or not, but he's out of place, he's
[00:10:50] ill-mannered, because we're doing an interview that no one
[00:10:54] else is doing. It's been two years since you left Big Brother,
[00:10:58] for nothing, for saying nothing, because you didn't say a
[00:11:00] word, no light at all, on top of that
[00:11:04] you cut off a mobile like Carmen Barbieri in
[00:11:07] 1990,
[00:11:12] bravo, besides getting
[00:11:14] angry, things in life that make me
[00:11:18] embarrassed to be between
[00:11:32] They are all like that, they go to the house to sit because they have nothing to do in the house, because they don't have a job, because they have
[00:11:36] nothing to be famous, on top of that they get paid, they sit in a house, they do nothing, they are bums,
[00:11:40] 24 hours a
[00:11:43] day, they scratch the little parasite, they
[00:11:46] scratch themselves, and when they leave they want to do this media all over the place,
[00:11:50] for what? So that we interview them, let's go, we interview them and they make an electronic
[00:11:53] driver green, but please.
[00:12:28] Today in times of artificial intelligence, we were saying yesterday
[00:12:31] with the school, there are a lot of things that you can mount, edit,
[00:12:35] create, generate and the truth is that in the end you don't know if they are true
[00:12:39] or not, this has not prospered in court, so far
[00:12:42] we are almost supporting Terrominauri, no,
[00:12:45] we are nothing, but the car thing,
[00:12:49] I don't understand the car thing, the car thing, who was going to use that car, this guy
[00:12:52] Bambi or Romina, she, she was going to use it.
[00:13:25] But of course, justice is the one that has to say if yes or no, but if
[00:13:29] I'm married to a person and another person buys the car
[00:13:33] while with me, that's
[00:13:36] name, yes, of course it is,
[00:13:40] if I prove it, it's illegal, besides another thing, he's married to me and
[00:13:44] that was the issue that Romina was married to Walter Festa, that's
[00:13:47] why Amilla supposedly
[00:13:49] wanted to put
[00:13:54] something else.
[00:13:57] What this guy said was not that they were done illegally,
[00:14:00] sorry,
[00:14:03] it wasn't that they were done, it was that they were still married and there was no
[00:14:05] way out, she doesn't want to because she says I'm going to make this
[00:14:09] ferro with the car and I'm going to have to pay for it, I'm going to be
[00:14:13] how, wait, how do I answer of course, how do I answer
[00:14:16] to the IRS that I bought a Mercedes Benz, where do my income come from to
[00:14:20] buy this? Listen to everything, everything that has to do with civil
[00:14:23] and criminal responsibility. If she, for example, her
[00:14:27] license expires and she crashes, Bambi is responsible,
[00:14:30] exactly, so the pinon is to deceive, he tried to
[00:14:36] saying there is actually what he is saying, what Bambi is saying
[00:14:41] he is trying to say is how Romina Urig usually
[00:14:44] deals with things that are unclear, so then justice
[00:14:48] will define if they are a crime or not, but they are unclear
[00:14:51] and not running well.
[00:15:02] is not enough, I answer you the following, the issue
[00:15:05] of the certificate for now it is not proven that she used it
[00:15:09] so she is innocent, well, well,
[00:15:11] she tried to put a car in the name of a friend, she didn't commit any
[00:15:15] crime, she didn't do anything, they are
[00:15:18] discrediting her, but I ask you a question, but doesn't the one who made the fake certificate commit a crime?
[00:15:22] There yes, but who made it? Well, who made it, that's the question? That's the question, who made
[00:15:26] it? We don't know if it was Bambi, if she made it
[00:15:29] or someone in her circle, no, I have a question but I'll leave it for a little
[00:15:32] while for the doctor, not if it's about this topic to ask because
[00:15:36] then he goes with another
[00:15:39] during the break, the question,
[00:15:42] during the break,
[00:15:46] latest
[00:15:46] news,
[00:15:51] more schools, new complaints for photos by artificial
[00:15:54] intelligence, students sell them on
[00:15:58] networks, how crazy
[00:16:00] this is,
[00:16:04] well, Cris, tell us what... what happened here
[00:16:08] because it seems that with everything we said yesterday
[00:16:12] nothing happened, well, let's see, the case we did yesterday
[00:16:15] was the beginning of what
[00:16:18] unfortunately continues in schools, we
[00:16:21] moved to the western area of the Buenos Aires conurbation where young people
[00:16:25] also 14 and 15 years old, four young people
[00:16:28] also did this, they took photos of their
[00:16:32] classmates and with artificial intelligence they
[00:16:35] made them, uh, ethnographic material, but here there is a very
[00:16:39] very delicate point, because we are talking about images
[00:16:43] that would have victims of children of 7
[00:16:46] years old, of 7 years old, that's why the
[00:16:50] criminal article, article 128 of the criminal
[00:16:53] article, uh, related to sexual
[00:16:56] exploitation material, still needs to
[00:16:59] determine the individual responsibility of each student, but here there is
[00:17:03] a truly terrible event, the prosecutor, uh, Pablo
[00:17:07] Cabrejas from the Juvenile Criminal Responsibility Prosecutor's Office number two of Morón
[00:17:11] is carrying out the proceedings, we are
[00:17:14] mainly facing a situation that was reported to the women's police station
[00:17:18] by a family and the second report was made
[00:17:22] by the school principal, principal Rodrigo Herrera, who
[00:17:26] we are trying to communicate with, who filed the report here at the school,
[00:17:29] unlike what happened yesterday, he filed the
[00:17:32] pertinent report. Now what I wonder is what goes through the
[00:17:35] mind of a kid of 15, 16 years
[00:17:39] old who is not doing a prank, clearly, because now
[00:17:43] it went much further and it's putting photos of girls
[00:17:47] of 7 years old, of minors, now, can a kid of
[00:17:50] 15, 16 years old invent, can he
[00:17:54] conceive this or is there something that is happening and we are
[00:17:58] overlooking it, something is happening for this to
[00:18:01] occupy the mind and, in quotation marks, the
[00:18:05] creativity of kids of 15 years old. We are giving them,
[00:18:08] sorry, I say in terms of moms, right, I take
[00:18:12] responsibility perhaps, that we are giving our children too much
[00:18:15] too soon, you are giving them
[00:18:19] this that can ruin a child's life
[00:18:22] because they can commit suicide, I'm talking
[00:18:25] seriously with knowledge of the facts, I know a girl who committed suicide
[00:18:28] because of bullying, not the case of artificial intelligence, but they bullied her, I'm not going
[00:18:32] to say her name of course because it's something that has
[00:18:35] to do with family.
[00:18:38] But she committed suicide because of a terrible thing,
[00:18:41] I mean, they don't know the harm they can be doing, the parents are to
[00:18:45] blame, too, not just the kids, what Gabi says, sorry, what Gabi
[00:18:49] says, I also want to add to the topic of how schools have
[00:18:55] technology, this is not to put all the blame and responsibility only on the
[00:18:58] school, but to understand that there are a lot of things that have evolved and for
[00:19:02] which children are much better prepared than the adults
[00:19:06] theoretically responsible. Talk about them during the hours they are inside the
[00:19:09] school, so that's where all this
[00:19:13] comes from, which is what we were saying yesterday, the chicken or the egg,
[00:19:16] what comes first, I mean, how do you solve this story? Lore, the school gave
[00:19:19] an answer, right, because in fact, schools came out to
[00:19:23] prohibit cell phones from being used during
[00:19:26] school hours, they can only use them during lunch
[00:19:30] time, now, as Gabi says, it's the school, it's the parents, and
[00:19:34] it's what they have, what those kids have in their heads. We are
[00:19:37] losing a generation, I'm going to give you a piece of data, a rather
[00:19:41] alarming piece of data also related to the investigation, how this is
[00:19:45] known, how they realize who the people are
[00:19:48] who were emitting this
[00:19:52] the four people, there is one of them, one of them
[00:19:55] who did not receive the money from those sales, that is,
[00:19:59] the distribution, oh, they were also selling it, they were
[00:20:02] selling it, they were monetizing it, and there is
[00:20:05] one of them who did not receive payment and what did he do?
[00:20:09] He told everything yesterday, it also happened because one, for the same reason, for
[00:20:13] money differences in that group of four who sold the girls' photos
[00:20:16] on pornographic sites, one was left
[00:20:20] out, he complained and found out, because another
[00:20:23] thing that is happening unfortunately is that it is very
[00:20:26] widespread, something that I don't like to call this way, but I say it so it is understood, which is
[00:20:30] porno extortion, yes, that is, then they also start
[00:20:34] asking for photos or they take or snatch photos from the... the girls
[00:20:37] from the boys and say if you don't pay me so much, uh, I'll
[00:20:41] show it, I'll publish it, I'll upload it, I'll send it to the
[00:20:44] groups, not everyone does it, Meli, of course
[00:20:48] there are kids who have the materials and they
[00:20:52] are aware, but we are facing a glass generation,
[00:20:56] guys, the glass generation is that parents give everything to our children
[00:21:00] so that they talk to us, they love us, it wasn't something, our
[00:21:03] parents, I don't want to say because it wasn't right either, but something happened to our parents and you know what? They
[00:21:07] wouldn't let us go out for a week, here, no, so they don't get offended, so they don't get angry,
[00:21:11] they want the latest cell phone, I give them the latest cell phone, you have to
[00:21:15] control them, parents, parents are glass,
[00:21:18] children and parents.
[00:21:21] But the kids and the parents, how are you not going to get deeply involved in this
[00:21:24] issue? Yes, that is, how can a 15-year-old,
[00:21:28] 16-year-old kid come up with the idea
[00:21:31] of causing tremendous harm to a seven-year-old girl? Of course, it's not a joke
[00:21:35] in a class, the investigation, what the investigation is showing
[00:21:39] is that this comes out, it comes out of that class
[00:21:43] and goes directly to the primary school where there are children of seven and
[00:21:46] eight years old, and here the crime is much greater, although what we were talking
[00:21:50] about yesterday is totally serious, this already crosses a
[00:21:53] terrible barrier, now I want
[00:21:56] to say, here we have minors against
[00:22:00] minors and we have guardians, their
[00:22:03] parents, as long as you have a child, everything that happens
[00:22:07] around that child, you have absolute
[00:22:10] responsibility, if you bought a cell phone for your child or your
[00:22:14] child bought it himself with the money his aunt or grandmother gave
[00:22:18] him, you are still responsible for what
[00:22:21] he does, you cannot wash your hands as a parent,
[00:22:25] so to begin with, education comes from home, that your
[00:22:28] child ends up doing that has to do with the education you gave him, why,
[00:22:32] because in my house they told me, man, don't do that, and if I
[00:22:36] find out you do something in a certain situation at
[00:22:38] school, everything goes to hell, at least in my house it was
[00:22:42] like that, and I behaved well because I didn't want to have problems and because
[00:22:45] besides, morally it didn't seem logical to me to do
[00:22:48] bad things, now, life is not always a
[00:22:52] joke, it's not all a joke, you can't alter the image, sorry, and
[00:22:56] I'll finish, of a girl to sell it on social
[00:22:59] media and everything is fine and nothing happens, here there have to be
[00:23:03] serious consequences for the parents,
[00:23:06] consequences for the kids so they understand that this is serious and
[00:23:10] to mark a turning point so that no one else does it because
[00:23:13] otherwise it's an Argentine joke and everyone
[00:23:17] does what they want, Rulo still doesn't know... how many images generated with
[00:23:21] AI are we talking about, it's still not known how far that
[00:23:25] material went, because we are talking about that material not only
[00:23:29] being sold in our country, but it can reach other countries, here it is
[00:23:33] very important, because this type of content already enters missile
[00:23:36] children, it already enters an investigation by the, of course,
[00:23:39] exactly, by the American forces where these young people of
[00:23:43] 15 and 16 years old can face harsh penalties, and I tell you
[00:23:46] if we open a debate regarding what penalties these
[00:23:50] minors should suffer, and I agree with Rulo, primary education is at home,
[00:23:54] mainly I would go for the parents, listen, uh, I'm thinking
[00:23:59] of what Meli just said about a kid who doesn't get paid, so that's why he tells the whole
[00:24:03] story and what you were saying,
[00:24:06] but I really ask myself, what were the parents doing when the
[00:24:10] kids were doing this activity? I want to bring up something, I'm not a mother, maybe I'm
[00:24:14] messing up what I'm saying, but you realize
[00:24:17] when adolescents or younger kids
[00:24:21] are plotting something, there's a share of you realizing
[00:24:24] as an adult that there's a whisper, a little thing, you have to
[00:24:28] generate from your home, I say it as a daughter, I don't say it as a mother because I'm not one, but you had
[00:24:31] a present family, you see the amount, you see the amount
[00:24:35] of kids who at 15, 16 years old, as one considers them
[00:24:38] relatively mature, no, and you work, there are
[00:24:41] women who work all day, fathers who work all day and the kids
[00:24:45] are a bit left to their own devices, what worries me is how
[00:24:48] strange, really. I say first that it's happening in more than one school, this
[00:24:52] already seems to me to be starting to indicate something, and the other
[00:24:55] is, how does a 15-year-old
[00:24:58] kid come up with the idea that someone can buy an image of a
[00:25:02] seven-year-old naked girl, it means that something of all that is
[00:25:06] familiar to you, yes, you saw something, you heard something, someone brought that to you because at
[00:25:09] 15 years old this possibility is created for you, you're
[00:25:13] really a pervert, that's why I thought that the home thing, as
[00:25:17] Gabi just said, the topic of parents, has to be a fundamental
[00:25:20] fact, because no matter how much parents work all day, when you have children
[00:25:24] and what Rulo said, responsibility is always, when you're
[00:25:28] a parent, you have to pay attention to some things, the story can't
[00:25:31] escape you so much, you know what happens, with what Meli also
[00:25:35] just said, by working all day many mothers
[00:25:38] have this thing of how can I tell
[00:25:42] you, uh, it's not responsibility but
[00:25:45] fear, uh, like you want to give them everything so as not to cut them off, so to speak,
[00:25:49] of course.
[00:26:09] so they don't get offended, so they don't stop loving you, so they don't stop loving you, we are making mistakes, the whole generation, we are making mistakes and there is another thing, you are absolutely right, I subscribe to every word you say and there is another
[00:26:13] thing, many of us think that our children are in a safe place
[00:26:17] when they are in our houses and they are in their rooms and you
[00:26:20] say what's going to happen to them or what are they going to be doing, they're not going to be stealing with their
[00:26:23] cell phone, they're not going to be I don't know, making a
[00:26:27] mess with their cell phone, they're playing with the PlayStation, they're playing with the games, the
[00:26:31] situation.
[00:26:38] afternoon there is a secrecy in the investigation and I am
[00:26:41] communicating with some people who have to do with the investigation and with some parents who don't dare
[00:26:45] to go on air, you know why, because there are many who don't know yet
[00:26:48] if they were victims, that is, there are students
[00:26:53] primary school, look what I'm saying, that we're talking about seven, eight,
[00:26:56] 10 years that the parents don't know if the face
[00:27:00] of that creature was used to... make content with AI, that's why the secrecy around the
[00:27:04] investigation, at this moment there are victims who
[00:27:08] still don't know that unfortunately their face was used
[00:27:11] to make this this
[00:27:13] material
[00:27:16] that before we were scared of teachers,
[00:27:18] priests or I'm not saying all the complaints there have
[00:27:22] been about issues of abuse and so on in schools are the
[00:27:25] children themselves, the children themselves Lore, we will return to this
[00:27:29] topic. It concerns
[00:27:33] all of society as a whole and now we have this last-minute news,
[00:27:36] go ahead,
[00:27:40] last
[00:27:41] minute,
[00:27:46] femicide of
[00:27:47] Agostina,
[00:27:50] brutal twist in the case,
[00:27:54] Barrelier increasingly
[00:27:55] complicated,
[00:28:00] macabre find. Found photos of naked
[00:28:04] and tied-up
[00:28:05] women,
[00:28:11] well there is the face of poor Agostina who is no
[00:28:14] longer with us, we already know her,
[00:28:18] unfortunately after her death,
[00:28:21] right? Because of all this that has happened in this case that
[00:28:24] shocks all of society, Cris, that's right, Ruglo, a
[00:28:28] case that still generates a lot of commotion
[00:28:31] due to everything. the facts and given that we have a subject
[00:28:35] named Claudio Barrellier who is in prison in Cruz del Eje and that the
[00:28:38] phone forensics of that
[00:28:41] jackal found images of women
[00:28:45] who have not yet been identified, but I'm going to give you a piece of exclusive
[00:28:48] information, we are talking about victims, right? Let's see, we
[00:28:52] go back to the year 2011, we go back to the year
[00:28:55] 2024 and we go back to the year
[00:28:57] 2025
[00:28:59] victims of Claudio Barriller, tied-up people. people
[00:29:03] that eh Barrelier tried to abuse and another, another, another thing
[00:29:07] that Barrellier would have also tried to deliver, that's
[00:29:10] why we have an exclusive note and we are going to understand what happened on May
[00:29:14] 6, 2025 at Juan del
[00:29:17] Campillo 878 where Claudio Barrellier
[00:29:20] unfortunately had Agostina, but last year a regrettable
[00:29:23] event occurred, that's why we are going to talk to Dr. Mónica Pico, who is the
[00:29:27] lawyer of the victim from 2025, the one who could have been
[00:29:30] Agostina, but by a miracle was able to escape,
[00:29:34] well, we have Dr.
[00:29:37] Mónica Pico on the line via Zoom, Dr.
[00:29:41] welcome to Imbatible on the Crónica channel, how are
[00:29:43] you? Hello, how are you, good
[00:29:47] afternoon, how are you all, well, all in order, thank you for taking our call, Doctor,
[00:29:50] you are the lawyer of a
[00:29:52] victim who was able,
[00:29:56] so to speak, to save herself, to escape
[00:29:59] from Barrelier's clutches.
[00:30:04] That's right, I am the lawyer of, as I have
[00:30:07] always said, the first known victim that
[00:30:11] we have of Barrelier, yes, my
[00:30:13] client on May 5th, I mean the 6th
[00:30:17] of May in
[00:30:19] 2025, eh was summoned by
[00:30:22] Barrelier after a deception, after telling
[00:30:26] her that he needed her to hold some money that he was going to
[00:30:30] pay her. He
[00:30:33] takes her to his home,
[00:30:36] yes, on his motorcycle, the girl enters the
[00:30:39] house, Barrelier starts to walk
[00:30:42] around until he pulls out a weapon, he forces
[00:30:46] my client to undress,
[00:30:50] yes, afterwards he ties her up and when
[00:30:54] he was about to
[00:30:56] bring the motorcycle into the house that my client...