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[00:00:04] That's right, I am the lawyer of, as I always
[00:00:07] said, of the first known victim that we have of
[00:00:11] Barrelier, yes, my client
[00:00:15] on May 5th or 6th, sorry,
[00:00:18] in 2025, was summoned by
[00:00:23] react Barrelier after a deception, after being told
[00:00:26] that he needed her to have some money, to...
[00:00:30] pay for it. He ends
[00:00:33] up taking her to his home,
[00:00:36] yes, on her motorcycle. The girl enters the
[00:00:39] house. Barrelier starts walking
[00:00:42] around until he pulls out a weapon, forces
[00:00:46] my client to undress,
[00:00:50] yes, afterwards he ties her up and when
[00:00:54] he was about to bring the
[00:00:57] motorcycle into the house that my client... had left
[00:01:01] outside, this circumstance is taken
[00:01:04] advantage of
[00:01:07] into the streets, almost in by my client to
[00:01:09] escape, doctor. And on Barrel's phone with these new expert reports that
[00:01:13] appear, among those women who appear
[00:01:17] tied up and subdued by Barrelier, did you
[00:01:20] identify or were you able to identify her among those
[00:01:23] photos?
[00:01:25] No, I haven't been able to do it yet because, let me explain, that
[00:01:28] evidence is kept in the prosecutor's office,
[00:01:32] no, although I was able to
[00:01:35] see it, I couldn't show
[00:01:38] it to my client to see if she didn't
[00:01:40] recognize her. No, I didn't recognize her because she's
[00:01:44] naked and the photo is very particular. Now, Doctor
[00:01:48] Pico, in some moment it was said in the
[00:01:51] media, because this case, your client's case, is a case that was
[00:01:55] the first case that shocked everyone because they said, there was a
[00:01:58] very clear precedent. This, this is the
[00:02:02] case for which Barrelier was
[00:02:03] detained, yes, the case for which
[00:02:07] it had been said that he had opened the
[00:02:10] door to a girl, Agostina had opened the
[00:02:14] door, and now you say that she escapes when he tries to put the
[00:02:17] motorcycle in. Did she escape because of the motorcycle? Did she escape because Agostina opened the door?
[00:02:21] No, Agostina no.
[00:02:24] Barrel's daughter, ah, Barrel's daughter,
[00:02:27] no, because
[00:02:30] girl, it could have been the case that it was sorry, I'm not wrong, it's not crazy what I'm saying, Agostina. Barrelier had a relationship with
[00:02:32] Agostina if she was the daughter of, but this is a
[00:02:35] the structure. Now, so far much earlier case. Well, but Agostina
[00:02:38] was among us and could have been in the house. I didn't say one
[00:02:41] thing, no, but she didn't have this relationship with Barrelier yet, with
[00:02:44] Agostina's mother, with Agostina's mother. Okay, I apologize, but well,
[00:02:48] it's fine. What I was saying, there was a
[00:02:50] Agostina, but it wasn't the daughter. Well, I'm sorry because everything got
[00:02:54] by this tsunami. So far confused. She escapes when he tries to put the
[00:02:57] motorcycle in.
[00:02:59] Eh, yes, she just sees Barrelier's wife's daughter
[00:03:03] Marianela Palmero, once she manages to escape,
[00:03:07] when behind Barrelier comes out
[00:03:10] Maria Palmero and the daughter. Ah, something had happened with the daughter, there
[00:03:14] it is. I remembered that she had seen the girl.
[00:03:18] You know why, sorry, you know why I'm asking you this, doctor,
[00:03:21] because yes, this shows
[00:03:25] that those who lived in the house, I'm taking the girl out
[00:03:28] of this, but at least they...
[00:03:32] yes, they saw that strange things were happening. I go out with a
[00:03:35] woman who sees a half-naked
[00:03:38] woman screaming and escaping from my house. That woman instantly files a complaint against me
[00:03:42] and runs out of my house. I become a... well, I don't even want
[00:03:46] constantly talk to to imagine what she thinks of me. This woman, for her, it was
[00:03:49] almost a coincidence, like watching a
[00:03:52] TV series. What did she think was happening there?
[00:03:56] Well, coincidentally, I insisted on the...
[00:04:00] situation that weighed today on Maria Palmero for this
[00:04:03] concealment. Of course, but my
[00:04:06] insistence goes beyond the crime of
[00:04:09] concealment. I'm aiming for secondary participation
[00:04:13] on the part of Maria Palmero,
[00:04:16] based on what? Based on the evidence, yes,
[00:04:20] because from the opening of Maria Palmero's
[00:04:24] cell phone, which only reached the
[00:04:27] prosecutor's office this year, now... after
[00:04:30] the Agostina case, yes,
[00:04:33] certain messages
[00:04:35] emerge
[00:04:38] we knew that many girls started that in my opinion
[00:04:41] as a lawyer, for me, it goes beyond concealment. For me, there
[00:04:45] is at least secondary participation, doctor,
[00:04:49] because she warns him, yes.
[00:04:52] How, how does it wait, sorry, Lore, eh, but how
[00:04:55] could you give us an example without revealing if it can't be revealed,
[00:04:59] but what, eh, she tells him, "Beware, they're looking for you
[00:05:03] for such and such. Delete that
[00:05:05] 1250 families were left on photo." I don't know what warning she receives,
[00:05:09] yes, specifically there are messages
[00:05:13] that say: "The woman's loud scream was heard, turn up the
[00:05:16] music. If I hear it, surely the
[00:05:20] neighbor will hear it." No, of course, not specifically, yes,
[00:05:24] yes, but that is already very clearly
[00:05:26] messages,
[00:05:28] sorry doctor, I didn't mean to interrupt, but, but I mean, in this
[00:05:32] case, what I want to ask you is, sorry for the delay that we
[00:05:35] were stepping on each other, but I mean, I want to ask you
[00:05:38] if all these issues can be added and you are advocating
[00:05:42] for that, so that the penalty is even more severe for
[00:05:45] that he will have, definitely has to be the
[00:05:49] worst that exists, no, now I say, for Marianela, can these
[00:05:53] other causes be added to the same Agostina
[00:05:56] case, so that her participation and her role in what Barrelier
[00:06:00] was doing has a greater weight?
[00:06:04] Yes, I am aiming for that, coincidentally,
[00:06:07] I am aiming for that because I understand that although it is not direct
[00:06:10] evidence, it is related. The fact that
[00:06:14] concerns my client, who is the victim, but it is a very
[00:06:17] important circumstantial evidence,
[00:06:21] yes, because evidently
[00:06:24] she, in a certain way, collaborates, she warns him, she
[00:06:27] tells him to turn up the music, a scream was heard,
[00:06:31] hide, the neighbor might hear.
[00:06:34] I want to ask you something, doctor, here Cristian Eche, mainly Barrelier said
[00:06:38] that it was a political setup, but to ask you this specifically,
[00:06:41] when Barrelier... came to the victim, your client, did he use his
[00:06:45] cell phone and make phone calls and refer to more
[00:06:48] people?
[00:06:52] We don't know that, unfortunately, because Barrelier's
[00:06:55] cell phone was never seized at
[00:06:59] that time, so that's a piece of evidence that was lost,
[00:07:02] Cristian. Did he ever mention an
[00:07:05] agent, did he mention a "daddy one," a "daddy two,"
[00:07:08] did he mention people? Yes, well, that comes
[00:07:12] coincidentally from Maria Palmero's
[00:07:16] cell phone, which was seized, yes, but
[00:07:19] the extract from that cell phone
[00:07:23] we had in the
[00:07:25] file now, yes, the report from that cell phone, and
[00:07:29] from there emerge very particular dialogues that he has with Marianela
[00:07:32] Palmero,
[00:07:36] "Don't come, don't enter because I have a meeting with
[00:07:39] daddy one, don't come, don't enter because
[00:07:43] daddy two is coming." And
[00:07:46] from there emerges a very important
[00:07:49] circumstantial evidence, because it
[00:07:52] tells us of a Barrelier who
[00:07:56] had his house guarded. Marianela alludes in some of
[00:07:59] the messages, "Hey, I don't like the one on the roof,
[00:08:03] check the one outside,
[00:08:06] can I leave, is the area clear?" Yes,
[00:08:09] yes, a very particular criminal language and a... distribution and division of
[00:08:13] roles also that leaves this woman quite compromised, Doctor
[00:08:16] Pico, thank you for this contact with us, of course we will remain in contact
[00:08:20] because for us the absolute priority is for it to be clarified and for Barrelier to
[00:08:24] pay with the full weight of his sentence for the
[00:08:28] barbarity he committed against other women and, of course, what he did to Agostina,
[00:08:31] thank you, doctor, thank you very much, a big
[00:08:34] hug, you are on Crónica's screen, you are on
[00:08:37] Imbatibles, more schools, new complaints for
[00:08:41] photos with... artificial
[00:08:43] intelligence,
[00:08:45] students sell them on social networks.
[00:09:00] Is it a trend, is it a fad? What are we
[00:09:03] talking about when we talk about photos created with artificial intelligence that are sold on
[00:09:07] pornographic sites with the faces of the students of that
[00:09:11] school, but...
[00:09:15] of a crime, we are talking about a crime, we are talking about
[00:09:18] lack of education at home, we are talking about teenagers who
[00:09:22] think they can do any prank with their
[00:09:26] phone, that they can also mess with
[00:09:29] women, because you know what this is too, it's an absolute
[00:09:33] act of misogyny, because still here, here on
[00:09:36] Crónica, I haven't heard that any man had their
[00:09:40] face put on a strip body.
[00:09:48] and sold to gay sites, or that a woman does it to a man, or that a woman does it to a man, where are the parents of the boys denouncing? You know
[00:09:51] why they aren't, because they mess with girls, because they treat
[00:09:55] them like whores, because they treat
[00:09:57] them like idiots, because they mess with them, yes, like whores, so you know what
[00:10:01] I tell you as a father of a woman, and it really bothers me a lot, this
[00:10:05] topic, because you have a girl who is at the age of
[00:10:08] development, who hasn't even kissed a boy yet, and a photo of
[00:10:12] her appears naked throughout the school, and you ruin her high school.
[00:10:15] Of course, because the girl is crying at home, she doesn't want
[00:10:19] to go to her friends' 15th birthday parties, she doesn't want to leave her house
[00:10:22] because the boys laugh at her. It's
[00:10:25] zero tolerance, sister, with this issue, I tell you as if I were outside
[00:10:28] the area, it's zero tolerance.
[00:10:31] It starts at home, the same criterion as when
[00:10:35] they threatened with bombs, oh they threatened with bombs, they sent the geo group and they
[00:10:38] kicked down the door, do the same to them, let them be eating with their family and
[00:10:42] kick down their door, where is the one who altered the photos? You'll see how the
[00:10:46] parents will
[00:10:48] when they react, you know when the parents will react,
[00:10:52] when, may it not happen, that all the wood that... that happens when some
[00:10:56] child jumps off a balcony because of what they are doing to them, then
[00:10:59] they will just start reacting, do we have to wait for something to happen, do we have to
[00:11:03] wait for bullying of such a kind that a child can do something
[00:11:07] terrible? Well, we have
[00:11:11] Camila and Andrea in communication,
[00:11:13] who are students of the school where this happened, who perhaps, I say
[00:11:17] perhaps because they don't know it yet, are not
[00:11:20] directly harmed, no photos were made of them, but it seems to
[00:11:24] us a very interesting testimony because they know the heart of the conflict and they go to that
[00:11:28] school. Camila, Andrea, welcome to Imbatibles on the Crónica
[00:11:31] screen. How are you doing? Hello, good afternoon, how
[00:11:35] are you? Do you know any
[00:11:38] classmate who has been a victim of these
[00:11:41] rude people? Unfortunately, a large
[00:11:45] part of our social circle was affected,
[00:11:49] in fact many of my classmates too. Can you turn down the
[00:11:52] volume of the TV, so we can understand.
[00:12:01] Yes, unfortunately you were telling me that there are a lot of your friends, continue,
[00:12:04] there are a lot of classmates, friends,
[00:12:08] and the truth
[00:12:11] is that it's terrible because
[00:12:14] they keep finding out about more and more things, more things come
[00:12:17] out and it's worse.
[00:12:19] Girls, what do you think should happen to these boys
[00:12:23] who did this?
[00:12:26] We need them to be expelled
[00:12:30] because we honestly think that even if they send
[00:12:33] them to bubble wrap, it will still be the
[00:12:36] same because even if they are at home having
[00:12:40] virtual classes and all that, it doesn't mean
[00:12:44] that it won't keep happening,
[00:12:48] they can continue to harass the girls because it's even more, they did
[00:12:51] it through Instagram, they took photos.
[00:12:55] all, all, and nothing assures us that
[00:12:59] we will be safe there in that, in school.
[00:13:02] Do you know if by any chance any of them expressed
[00:13:06] remorse?
[00:13:11] No, I don't know. That's terrible, eh.
[00:13:14] I want to ask you girls, what do you think about the parents
[00:13:17] of these boys, right? Because I imagine that you at home
[00:13:21] will have conversations and especially now that all this has happened at
[00:13:24] school, regarding how to take care of yourselves, what
[00:13:27] things yes, what things no. What do you think of the
[00:13:31] parents of these boys?
[00:13:34] I feel that there is not much
[00:13:37] relation. One can have an excellent father who gives you a lot of advice, who
[00:13:41] teaches you how to be a good person, and then it's up to you what you want
[00:13:45] to be and what you know, what is done and what is not done, because I
[00:13:48] feel that at 15 years old you know how to differentiate what is right and what is wrong, because these
[00:13:52] people made photos of 7-year-old girls.
[00:13:56] It's interesting what they use artificial intelligence for, to do something for
[00:14:00] good, something for, clear, you
[00:14:02] understand, to help, not to do this evil. Present parents
[00:14:06] who don't advise them, or maybe they are parents who can't
[00:14:11] them and all that, but it doesn't take away the fact that you as
[00:14:15] a human being know, you have to know how to
[00:14:18] differentiate it.
[00:14:21] Your own classmates is a lot. I'm getting information about one of the complaints, the first
[00:14:25] complaint made by a mother at the
[00:14:27] police station, then the director makes the complaint, but in the first
[00:14:31] complaint there is a Telegram group where not only
[00:14:34] were these photos shared, but also their phone
[00:14:38] numbers, meaning they are also
[00:14:42] sharing phone numbers, real names. It's another
[00:14:45] crime, it's another crime, that's why, because they are
[00:14:48] this, the truth is that
[00:14:52] I didn't want to mention it because it's still the same. But we are not
[00:14:56] sufficiently informed by the Telegram group, now
[00:14:59] this, but yes,
[00:15:03] receiving messages from perverts
[00:15:07] saying about encounters and all
[00:15:09] that. Do you see the boys mature enough, because it
[00:15:12] seems to me that at 15 years old you don't even have a fully
[00:15:16] developed frontal lobe, I really
[00:15:19] mean it, I don't know how you see the parents of these boys.
[00:15:23] de estos chicos.
[00:15:27] Well, for me, no, I mean, there's a terrible
[00:15:31] level of immaturity, but I also believe that there's a disconnection from reality to
[00:15:35] continue or do these things with their own companions, the people you see
[00:15:38] every day, no, no, I know, but the parents, how do you see them
[00:15:41] in terms of firmness in
[00:15:45] education? I feel like there was a lot of
[00:15:49] lack of attention there. Now he said something, sorry, he said
[00:15:53] something earlier that has to do with people having
[00:15:56] communicated with the victims because they saw those images,
[00:15:59] I mean, clients or consumers of that garbage, is
[00:16:02] that right?
[00:16:05] Uh, from what they were saying, yes, I mean,
[00:16:08] messages were coming in. Now, can I ask you a question? How would you have
[00:16:12] felt if it had been done to you and your photos circulated throughout
[00:16:14] the school? Oh, very disgusted, I mean, I would
[00:16:18] feel terrible, and I have many classmates
[00:16:22] who it happened to and who had a terrible
[00:16:25] time. Uh, but as I say, I mean, let's see,
[00:16:29] to be specific, you know why, because I want
[00:16:33] us here on set and the people who are watching us throughout
[00:16:36] Argentina to feel what it feels like,
[00:16:40] when you say they felt disgusted, what, what did they feel, what did
[00:16:43] they tell you?
[00:16:46] Well, it's feeling disgusted, even if it's a lie, it's
[00:16:50] feeling disgusted with your own person and how you
[00:16:53] perceive yourself. I mean, it's a photo of you that, even if it's
[00:16:56] a lie and it's fake, it's circulating everywhere and
[00:17:00] places you don't even know yet. I mean, it's
[00:17:03] starting to circulate through school groups, through porn sites, I mean,
[00:17:07] it's a lot of things that end up being disgusting. What bullying,
[00:17:10] exactly, what bullying, what bullying, sorry, I don't want to use bad
[00:17:14] words, but it makes me angry, right? And you know what, it's a total
[00:17:18] violation, because taking a person's
[00:17:21] image, their face, and putting it in an intimate
[00:17:25] situation is a total violation of all rights, and also
[00:17:29] there's no chance that anyone will come out unscathed from that situation, quite the
[00:17:32] opposite. If you appear in that
[00:17:35] situation, whether you're an adult, whether you're a minor, whether you're a teenager, you're even worse as a teenager
[00:17:38] because you're forming your personality. The
[00:17:42] impact is total, it's total, it's at every level, and it
[00:17:45] really, look, I know a very close case of something
[00:17:49] very similar that they did, you don't
[00:17:51] know how his face changed color, I'm talking about a
[00:17:55] man, not even a woman, a man who was
[00:17:58] extorted with an intimate photo.
[00:18:02] He turned grey, I saw the desperation in that child's
[00:18:05] eyes, a 16-year-old boy, and also, listen, Meli, do you think that a
[00:18:09] photo, a photo that circulates and doesn't stop circulating
[00:18:12] and keeps going around, afterwards
[00:18:15] you have to explain to each person
[00:18:18] who asks you that it's fake. It's like, even
[00:18:22] if there's no harm, it's already done, and it also never
[00:18:26] ends, it never ends.
[00:18:29] That material.
[00:18:33] But besides that, which is the most terrible thing, and there must surely be a network,
[00:19:07] they are responsible, yes, of course they are responsible, the parents and the school also have a
[00:19:11] responsibility. Now, what is above that, because the guys who
[00:19:15] bought those photos are part of these pedophile networks that
[00:19:18] also need to be discovered, so the investigation also has to continue its course
[00:19:22] upwards to find these bastards. I'd send them to the Stone Age, what do you mean?
[00:19:26] No, no, without hesitation, Camila, Camila, and
[00:19:29] what do you think is in the minds of these kids who
[00:19:33] came up with this, because this doesn't seem like a prank
[00:19:37] or a mischief, they agreed to capture photos,
[00:19:40] to montage them with artificial intelligence, to sell them on porn
[00:19:44] sites, what's wrong with your classmates? I mean, the truth
[00:19:47] is I wouldn't know what to tell you because you have to be very messed up in the
[00:19:50] head, I mean, because as I say, it's another
[00:19:54] distortion of reality, totally altered,
[00:19:57] I mean, who would think of doing such things to their own classmates,
[00:20:01] to minors, there are, eh, with girls from
[00:20:04] elementary school, I mean, there are many problems. That's what I
[00:20:08] ask myself, isn't it that these kids are going through something that
[00:20:11] makes them project all this violence onto
[00:20:14] women? Girls, Camila, to your classmate too, thank you
[00:20:18] for this contact with us, how brave of you to
[00:20:22] talk. We go directly to the live mobile unit, there is Emma
[00:20:26] Herrera.
[00:20:32] Last minute,
[00:20:35] total crisis in Granja Arroyos, who apparently don't
[00:20:39] know much about chickens. the
[00:20:43] street.
[00:20:46] Terrible, they pay their severance with
[00:20:49] chickens. How
[00:20:50] awful.
[00:20:57] Live and direct is Emmanuel Herrera,
[00:21:00] our correspondent live on site. Emma, are you on
[00:21:03] air?
[00:21:07] Rulo, Meli, the picket line
[00:21:09] here, the tires that the
[00:21:13] workers are burning, who have been here for quite some
[00:21:16] time, already 4 months without receiving their salary, no pay at all. And
[00:21:20] look at this image, which is more than
[00:21:23] descriptive of the country we are going through, of the
[00:21:27] real Argentina that we are living and that we transmit
[00:21:30] here every day on Crónica, the
[00:21:32] empty grill, a grill with nothing to
[00:21:36] put on it. Why? Because it's been more than 4 months since they were paid their
[00:21:39] salary, since they were paid their Christmas bonus, they wanted to give them a
[00:21:43] box of chickens. And what do they do with a box of
[00:21:46] chickens? And they are here inside in this little tent that
[00:21:50] they set up because a weekend is coming that will have a lot of
[00:21:53] bad weather and all the smoke is coming at me and I'm going to
[00:21:57] look blacker than reality at this moment. Look
[00:22:00] that they
[00:22:03] are here to take shelter exactly as
[00:22:07] you said from the coming rains, friend, I ask
[00:22:10] you again what I asked you at the beginning of the mobile, any news? Did they tell you
[00:22:14] anything? No, we still have no
[00:22:17] news, eh, they still owe us the four months that in
[00:22:21] total to those outside, to those inside with Christmas bonus, but in these
[00:22:25] minutes nothing, no, no, no, we saw that a van entered, a van that is
[00:22:29] supposedly going to pay the guys who already left, but we don't know
[00:22:32] if it will happen, eh, the reality is that from Gracia
[00:22:36] and Sergio Ardintegui, who is the
[00:22:40] authorized lawyer, they owe us in
[00:22:43] total an average of 850 million among the 170
[00:22:46] employees because they owe what's inside and what's outside. I asked you how your
[00:22:50] family is structured. I am me, my wife, and three, eh, three
[00:22:54] children. And how do you manage it? Eh, eh, they help me or
[00:22:58] I work with my brother or I do remises, a little bit of
[00:23:02] everything, always, yes, yes, yes, we always manage. What's your name?
[00:23:05] Lucas. Lucas, I'll come back to you, Lucas. Look at the rest of the
[00:23:09] compañeros, the empty mate,
[00:23:12] eh, I mean, nothing, only crumbs are left because there's no
[00:23:16] money, no cash to buy anything. Excuse me, something terrible
[00:23:20] just happened in Panama, stay for a second, we'll be
[00:23:23] right back because there's something
[00:23:26] exclusive, last minute, eh, last
[00:23:28] minute. Listen to what's happening right now in
[00:23:31] Panama, last minute
[00:23:35] exclusive.
[00:23:41] 7.6 earthquake
[00:23:44] in Panama, there are collapsed buildings, terrible, the
[00:23:48] earth is still moving, there are... affected,
[00:23:52] the planet is shaking in this year
[00:23:54] 2026,
[00:23:57] very serious, look at these exclusive
[00:23:58] images,
[00:24:02] look, look, look at this,
[00:24:05] the most affected area is the south
[00:24:09] central of Panama, there was
[00:24:12] the maximum intensity of this
[00:24:15] earthquake which reached 8 on the Rifter
[00:24:19] scale. And as you said,
[00:24:22] many affected people and evacuated. Panama
[00:24:26] is a country that is seismically prepared, it is a very
[00:24:30] modern country, it has
[00:24:33] different, you see the buildings are huge, it is very similar to Miami, it is similar to Miami,
[00:24:37] it is very similar to Miami, it is very true Meli
[00:24:39] that, eh, of course, the evacuated is something of utmost importance, we are
[00:24:43] seeing, look, that is a moment when some buildings
[00:24:46] start asking the people who were inside the place to leave. They are
[00:24:50] withdrawing, to go to safe areas. The issue is
[00:24:52] that being a place very close to the
[00:24:56] oceans, there is a tsunami alert for the next few hours, this
[00:24:59] happened, let's not forget, we have two hours of difference with Panama, it happened at
[00:25:03] almost 1 PM their time, I mean almost 3 PM our time, just
[00:25:07] an hour ago, it just happened, so the reports start
[00:25:10] coming in from that moment until now, there are still no
[00:25:13] reports of injured or deceased, but there is an
[00:25:17] alert for other countries where the tremor was felt, and
[00:25:20] where there may also be a tsunami alert, with the exception of
[00:25:24] Colombia, which has already issued a statement.saying that for the Colombian coasts there
[00:25:27] will be no tsunami alert. Well, you see that yesterday some
[00:25:31] Dantean scenes were also recorded of landslides in areas
[00:25:35] atypically affected by this
[00:25:39] in Santiago precisely due to the floods in Chile
[00:25:42] in Santiago due to the floods, due to the snowfalls and due to the rising tides of the
[00:25:46] Pacific. Evidently, everything is connected. This also has
[00:25:50] to do with the climatological phenomena that we are
[00:25:53] registering in recent hours and could also be
[00:25:57] connected to the latest seismic movements. You know that there are aftershocks
[00:26:00] that sometimes take time to arrive. times, remember that not
[00:26:04] long ago we reported an earthquake in Peru that
[00:26:08] had aftershocks in Panama. We talked about it when
[00:26:11] you think, I keep insisting that it's something I already
[00:26:15] said, I'll say it again, for me not much is known
[00:26:18] about this because humans have
[00:26:22] barely scratched the surface of the earth,
[00:26:25] nothing. That is, what
[00:26:28] is known about what happens below? Nothing. When will the
[00:26:32] plates collide? When will they move? When will there be an earthquake? It's not known. They can
[00:26:36] warn a little in advance because a small tremor
[00:26:40] can indicate that it's coming, but one wonders why
[00:26:43] they don't know beforehand, because in 2026 why does it happen in
[00:26:47] Panama, it happens in Japan and you don't find out? It can't
[00:26:51] be predicted, not yet. Many years for me, I don't think
[00:26:55] it can be. One thing to add is that Panama suffered
[00:26:58] the secondary effects of the 7.4 earthquake in Colombia. You remember
[00:27:02] that we talked about it here, we were live with what was happening there,
[00:27:06] and they had to go out
[00:27:09] the same area that is now suffering the
[00:27:13] earthquake because they were feeling the strong aftershocks from the one that came
[00:27:16] from Colombia. So the fault must be the same. I'm not a specialist, but it must be the
[00:27:20] same for now. No reports yet. For now, no
[00:27:24] reports. What about 10 km at a depth of 10 km? Yes, well, but
[00:27:28] it's more or less usual, that is to say, it's the same as...
[00:27:32] It's not the magnitude of the earthquake that kills, but the infrastructure
[00:27:35] capabilities of the affected country. That's why when it happened
[00:27:39] in Haiti it was tremendous, when it happened in Venezuela it was tremendous,
[00:27:43] very deadly. It's as if there was an earthquake, God forbid,
[00:27:46] but if it happens in, well, I'm not going to give any country as
[00:27:50] an example, but if it happens in a country where there are never earthquakes, everything is destroyed
[00:27:53] in Venezuela. Guys, there are
[00:27:56] 20, this is estimated because I was talking, I was talking
[00:28:00] with people who were there very recently who are still. Obviously, with help in
[00:28:03] Venezuela it is estimated that there are 20,000 people trapped in the
[00:28:06] rubble who will never be rescued. That is the estimate that
[00:28:10] the authorities of Venezuela have. Panama has
[00:28:13] anti-seismic construction standards, as we were saying, that's why it can withstand
[00:28:17] this which, on the Richter scale, is an
[00:28:20] intense earthquake that shakes, which from the images
[00:28:23] you can see that everything shakes absolutely,
[00:28:27] but the anti-seismic movement obviously causes the
[00:28:30] infrastructure to sway with that telluric movement and
[00:28:34] can contain
[00:28:37] there are no reported fatal victims, which is also very
[00:28:41] good news, thank God that
[00:28:44] nobody died, but I imagine that the material damage for the country
[00:28:48] must be catastrophic and for many of the citizens, right? There are
[00:28:51] approximately 450 thousand people affected
[00:28:57] work is underway, we understand that the
[00:29:00] United Nations and the European Commission are aware, but as
[00:29:03] Lore rightly informed, we still don't have exact numbers of injured
[00:29:07] and deceased. This was very recent,
[00:29:09] we are also looking for a lot of material and videos that are truly
[00:29:13] shocking of pools, people were inside the building how they moved, really
[00:29:16] terrible guys, in the case of, sorry Gabi, the tsunami alert is
[00:29:20] part of what needs to be taken into account because the effect of a tsunami
[00:29:24] is usually more serious. that image, that's
[00:29:27] terrible, they were live broadcasting, look at this, a sports
[00:29:31] program, any club, any,
[00:29:46] it seems like all your problems have become
[00:29:50] impossible and why do I say
[00:29:53] impossible? Well, for a key
[00:29:55] reason, because you can't find
[00:29:58] the solution, this is obviously leading you
[00:30:03] to be depressed, to be disheartened, to
[00:30:06] feel that your life, pardon the expression, is
[00:30:09] unhappy.
[00:30:11] I want to prove to you now that this problem has
[00:30:14] a solution, no matter your creed, no matter your religion, no matter
[00:30:18] your situation, I'm going to prove to you that for
[00:30:21] this problem there is
[00:30:24] a capable solution to get out
[00:30:28] of this situation, pay attention, my name is
[00:30:33] My life was an impossible case due
[00:30:37] to a deep depression, because of
[00:30:40] that depression, I lived
[00:30:42] practically drugged, I took
[00:30:46] 14 pills a day and
[00:30:49] as a result of a sentimental-economic scam,
[00:30:52] I had a very good economic standing,
[00:30:56] I had a very good job and a...