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[00:00:00] I'm already lost, it turned right, left, I'm already lost, let's see Christian,
[00:00:03] go, go, go, it's a very typical neighborhood, typical, not
[00:00:07] quiet street, come on, let's see Cristian, come on, there are
[00:00:11] horror stories, I'm with the neighbor, how many years living in Parque
[00:00:15] Chas, 15 years, 15 years, have you gotten lost,
[00:00:19] the bike shop, several people know have you ever been disoriented, no, no, because there's a mnemonic
[00:00:22] rule, all the streets that are neither
[00:00:26] cities nor capitals of Europe exit.
[00:00:30] From the Incas to La Pampa, the rest
[00:00:33] turn, mnemonic rule, Liverpool said,
[00:00:37] if you didn't know that technique, then you get lost, yes, you get lost, there
[00:00:40] it is, what legend have you heard these years, few,
[00:00:44] they talk about legends but I haven't heard much,
[00:00:48] thank you, uh, good luck guys, let's go explore then what
[00:00:51] he tells us, uh, there are streets that lead you to the
[00:00:54] avenues, there are others that have no, no exit,
[00:00:57] uh, they have no exit.
[00:01:00] people don't know it's a labyrinth, we are entering without
[00:01:03] GPS, it's the first time I enter, it's the first time you enter
[00:01:06] too, it's the first time he enters, so
[00:01:10] it has a lot of history, here someone tells me
[00:01:14] everyone has their own way of moving within Parque de Chas,
[00:01:17] no, some tell you to turn all the way left, all the way left, you turn
[00:01:21] left, you enter and turn left, where
[00:01:24] are you going, never turn right, ask
[00:01:28] the neighbors if it's true. that they are telling me, I am, I don't know, for
[00:01:32] they are lying to me, since I am so innocent, they
[00:01:35] always tell me to the left, let's see Christian, come on, look at that beautiful mural, Christian, there's
[00:01:39] a neighbor there, stop him, good, good, good, we are in
[00:01:42] how are you neighbor, how are we, a question, we are in the park
[00:01:46] exploring, you get lost and you don't know, give me a rule, a
[00:01:49] rule not to get lost here, please, you are a
[00:01:52] labyrinth,
[00:01:56] from Morón is still turning with let's see, let's see, there's the rule,
[00:03:08] I'm going to give you a more complicated fact about Parque Chas, I live 10
[00:03:11] blocks away, Gandara street, now everyone knows
[00:03:15] Parque Chas, no, but Gandara street, Gandara
[00:03:18] crosses like it's like a pizza but in the middle,
[00:03:22] before, 6 months ago, it was two-way and now it's over, it's
[00:03:25] only one-way in the direction of Constituyentes, so you can
[00:03:29] get lost. More ah, it aggravates the
[00:03:33] situation then, of course, it aggravates the situation, two-way
[00:03:36] until 6 months ago when it became one-way in the direction
[00:03:39] of Constituyentes, let's see, let's see Christian, let's see Christian,
[00:03:43] if you're on Gandara, if Gandara if you go the wrong way, you'll reach
[00:03:47] the square, let's see, you'll reach the six corners,
[00:03:50] clear, clear, which is the idea is to slowly get into
[00:03:54] the neighborhood, how are the neighbors, let's see, a rule, girls, so I don't
[00:03:57] get lost here in Parque Chas, yes, battery and
[00:04:00] GPS, we have to know the main ones, there are the main streets
[00:04:03] and if I take the ones that have European
[00:04:07] province names, I get lost, circles, sure, I can be here all day
[00:04:11] going around, girls, whatever, I'll make smoke signals, well,
[00:04:14] it's me, there are three streets that take you out, imagine the police
[00:04:18] making the grid here and he doesn't know, no, but it's
[00:04:21] terrible, besides, I don't know if it seems to me, maybe it's the long
[00:04:25] weekend, I don't see much
[00:04:27] movement, ah.
[00:04:41] notice that we are in the Porteña He's with GPS, we're doing a challenge without GPS to see if we get out of here, no,
[00:04:44] from here, no, neighbors, do you know any legends,
[00:04:48] have you heard anything, they're not neighbors, they're from Morón, they came to visit,
[00:04:52] it would be her home, it's what yes, I know the story of Dolinar,
[00:04:55] right, you're right, I don't remember well but he would enter Parque Chas and never
[00:04:59] leave. He could never find the exit, I don't remember well how it was years ago, give me the
[00:05:03] title, Robert, I see the title of Dolina's story,
[00:05:07] thank you, chronicle of the
[00:05:08] angel,
[00:05:11] for the friends from Morón who are with the GPS trying
[00:05:15] to leave, I don't know, besides the west
[00:05:18] zone is far, chronicles of the
[00:05:21] angel, well, well, come on, come on,
[00:05:25] we are, that's the square, Christian, that's the
[00:05:29] square, we are in one of the squares, this is one of the squares because
[00:05:32] it has several, we are in Bauness, look this is
[00:05:35] Bauness and Gandara, Bauness guys, attention, Bauness is
[00:05:39] a street that at one point collides with itself. It's something
[00:05:42] mysterious, I who know a lot about Parque Chas square,
[00:05:46] we are good, very good, nice to meet you, what's your name,
[00:05:49] that's the famous club del Trébol, Tito, nice to meet you, Tito, Tito Fortunato from
[00:05:53] here from the neighborhood, do you like food, how old are you,
[00:05:56] 76, I have completed, all your life, so you know
[00:06:00] the neighborhood very well, and yes, tell me some
[00:06:04] story about the neighborhood because we are talking about a quite
[00:06:07] complex neighborhood with its mysteries and its all
[00:06:11] clear particular. the boy here at the club always
[00:06:14] existed, there is the club which is very famous and now
[00:06:17] here inside the club there is a center for
[00:06:20] retirees, solidary heart, and I am waiting for the president to come
[00:06:24] and open the pool to have a meeting with all the retired people, how is it
[00:06:27] that after so many years here in the neighborhood, you have
[00:06:30] met people who have gotten lost,
[00:06:33] look, I know, there are,
[00:06:36] I live almost a block from unity
[00:06:40] 1900, a lot of people
[00:06:43] left the neighborhood or went to other neighborhoods
[00:06:46] to
[00:06:49] pass
[00:06:52] here and now, of course, and my question, something mysterious that has happened to you
[00:06:55] in the neighborhood in all these years, something mysterious, a
[00:06:58] strange experience here in the neighborhood with all the legends there are
[00:07:02] here, I lived a good childhood, you know, although
[00:07:05] we were a little, we were very poor, my dad insisted
[00:07:08] that I study and
[00:07:13] and work, let's continue, let's continue,
[00:07:16] let's continue, thank you very much, listen,
[00:07:20] I'll give you some information, Saviola came out of the clover, you're
[00:07:23] right, famous players, Chicho Batista, Chicho Batista, Chicho
[00:07:27] Batista, world champion, come on, Carito, look, I have some information for you,
[00:07:31] here what they are telling me is that the oldest
[00:07:34] neighbor is on Campillo street and Pasaje de las Indias
[00:07:38] in a bike shop right now that is open, he got lost and never went back
[00:07:41] home.
[00:07:58] You should have brought the dog, are you located where you are, Christian, because I
[00:08:02] have to walk, I'm in Dublin, well, one of the streets they told me I can't
[00:08:06] take, neighbor, neighbor, excuse me, a rule so I don't get lost here
[00:08:09] in Parque Chas, is there any rule?
[00:08:12] I want to ask, we are getting to know the neighborhood here in Parque Chas and they tell us that it is very particular, it has many legends, how are you? Good?
[00:08:28] Everything good? What are the rules here in the neighborhood, mainly not to
[00:08:32] get disoriented, you have to go out to
[00:08:35] the main avenues, for example, here at the roundabout you go out to Victorica and then Los
[00:08:39] Incas, and if not, you go out towards Pampa, someone who doesn't know
[00:08:43] and I, who am with the team without GPS and we really want to enter
[00:08:46] those streets that have many legends, right? They say that a group
[00:08:50] of French explorers entered and
[00:08:53] came out in a neighborhood 3 km away, or for example, that group
[00:08:57] of Catalans who also came to do like a block walk and
[00:09:01] didn't come out where they were supposed to come out, have you heard any legends like that in the
[00:09:04] neighborhood? Yes, yes, there are several legends of the neighborhood that
[00:09:08] the creator, the founder of Parque Chas, lived here, here
[00:09:12] on La Haya street and Triunvirato, uh-huh, and well,
[00:09:15] he passed away several years ago, but that house remained so
[00:09:19] emblematic, first houses, he's talking about the house
[00:09:22] that was left on the haunted street that are
[00:09:26] taken by Victorica
[00:09:29] and more or less three blocks to your right before Pampa, listen to me, have you
[00:09:33] or a family member had a situation like that, let's say,
[00:09:36] strange, that you got lost or disoriented? Not me
[00:09:40] because I'm from the neighborhood, I grew up here, but you never got disoriented, no, no,
[00:09:43] no, all the streets here are circular, you know, you have
[00:09:47] different capitals, I don't know, a person who came and is really
[00:09:50] disoriented, lost here in the neighborhood, yes, it's quite common, if you're not from the neighborhood, you get lost
[00:09:54] and you see them going through the same place again and
[00:09:57] yes, yes, yes, besides, I
[00:10:00] think we've already passed here, we're looking for parking to get to know the neighborhood
[00:10:04] and a coffee shop was also created here here where the roundabout is,
[00:10:08] let's go there, yes, go there, it's very good there, it gets full of
[00:10:11] people.
[00:10:20] Daniel told you about the creator of Parque Chas who passed away some years ago but
[00:10:24] we are going. The house is open to interpretation,
[00:10:27] right? There is the house and it was left there, I take it as the
[00:10:31] house is something, I don't know,
[00:10:34] haunted, let's say, mystery inside that house of the founder of
[00:10:37] Parque Chas, watch out, do you have more messages, Carito, let us know, let's see, yes, yes,
[00:10:40] we have, well, here they tell us the same about
[00:10:44] it, so the oldest man is famous, here they put "good excuse to
[00:10:47] cheat", he
[00:10:50] always wants to cheat because
[00:10:53] trampa porque
[00:11:25] I'm from Urquiza actually, but I come here to the nearby plaza, do you
[00:11:28] like it, have you gotten lost, I mean, have you gotten disoriented, I say lost but disoriented
[00:11:32] with the streets, yes, but I always take the same route, so
[00:11:35] I don't get lost, you never dared to change it, but once I came with my bike
[00:11:39] and I got really lost, you know, how long were you lost,
[00:11:43] I don't know, I was just going around in circles, of course, I started asking and they
[00:11:46] told me to follow this street called Bauness and then it changed its name, the same
[00:11:50] street, so it was very crazy, of course, of course, because
[00:11:54] it's a labyrinth. The same street, Bauness, collides with itself, it changes
[00:11:58] its name suddenly, so no,
[00:12:00] well, we'll let you continue, eh, come on, thanks, let's see, there we have
[00:12:04] other neighbors, clear, Christian, it's complicated, you
[00:12:07] know, you go down a street with a name and at some point you look up and the
[00:12:10] name changed, hey, when do you leave the street and you get
[00:12:14] lost there, you turn right, keep turning, keep
[00:12:17] turning, the couple
[00:12:21] the GPS looking for a way out, come on, come on, the
[00:12:24] man... lost, no, there it is, let's see, can I ask the neighbor, we are in Parque Chas, we are here for
[00:12:28] the news, neighbor, excuse me, we are touring and getting to know Parque
[00:12:32] Chas, many legends, many mysteries
[00:12:35] and if you don't know it, you get disoriented, it's a wonderful
[00:12:38] neighborhood, there's no doubt, it's the safest
[00:12:42] neighborhood in the capital, and yes, I mean,
[00:12:46] there's no problem with thieves getting lost, crime,
[00:12:49] of course, thieves get lost, they don't get lost, yes, thieves get lost,
[00:12:53] of course, for example, of course, that, any anecdote, I don't
[00:12:57] know, that you can tell us about the neighborhood, thieves have gotten lost and are still wandering around
[00:13:00] here, any anecdote you can tell us, there is, I don't know if Borges
[00:13:04] was the one who wrote that there was a
[00:13:07] very sick man and death didn't come for him and he got
[00:13:11] lost,
[00:13:13] the man is still alive, I don't know, it's a legend, oh, look how nice, I
[00:13:17] like it, it's a very quiet, very nice neighborhood,
[00:13:21] of course, it's residential, buses can't pass,
[00:13:25] any type of business can be enabled, of course, it's good,
[00:13:29] have you ever heard the legend of this taxi driver who came to pick up
[00:13:32] a client and said, "I won't drop you off on Avenida de los Incas, I won't enter that neighborhood,"
[00:13:36] that used to happen many years ago, not today,
[00:13:40] today it's a neighborhood that nowadays with GPS, but before taxi drivers didn't
[00:13:44] want to enter, no, no, no, they didn't want to enter, it's true, but they didn't
[00:13:47] want to enter because they got lost because of the horror
[00:13:50] stories, they didn't want to get in because they got lost because of the stories that were
[00:13:54] told here. They didn't get lost, it's a difficult neighborhood, I mean, the streets
[00:13:57] are difficult, difficult as you already have two
[00:14:00] places where you can exit, Gandara and
[00:14:04] Victorica, the avenue that goes from Agronomía to
[00:14:08] Triunvirato, I'm not from here, from the six-corner squares because there's a
[00:14:11] square that if I do a 360-degree tour, I see six corners
[00:14:15] which is something quite, there can be six corners, six
[00:14:17] corners, the block is broken, uh,
[00:14:21] this one is not, it's another one, oh, this is the clover, the one that is
[00:14:25] there, the one that is there, I don't remember the
[00:14:28] not the six-corner one, you turn right and then you hit it, I don't know if it has six
[00:14:32] corners, it doesn't have four, there it is, and why do they call it six
[00:14:36] corners and it has four, inflation they tell you now,
[00:14:40] why do they call it six corners and it has four, they say it doesn't have, there are six,
[00:14:43] come on, I don't know it, we continue exploring, Christian, we continue, we continue, we continue,
[00:14:47] we continue, I will continue, thank you, my dear, thank you, we continue, we continue, your
[00:14:50] name, Jorge, my dear, a pleasure, we have
[00:14:53] a message, we have another message, someone is
[00:14:57] also writing to us, and is telling us the following, good afternoon, I'm
[00:15:01] Cristian, once a friend took me to eat a barbecue at his house at
[00:15:05] 11 in the morning, he says he lives in front of a water fountain that is
[00:15:08] in Gandara, at 11 at night he left with a few too many drinks
[00:15:12] and what happened, he got lost, he was lost for more than 45 minutes and had to
[00:15:16] call his friend to help him, also with his friend
[00:15:19] they were lost for 15 more minutes around there, so they got lost
[00:15:23] anyway, at 11 at night, a drink.
[00:16:08] the beautiful turn and now there will also be a food truck from other people
[00:16:12] spectacular we want to know because we are interested in talking to
[00:16:14] people from here from the neighborhood who have lived here all their lives we walk with someone who knows how to
[00:16:18] move around what's your name, dear, it's called "La Vuelta"
[00:16:21] live and direct cafe in Parque Chas, uh, Maute is
[00:16:25] her name, Maute, Maute is unique, no, like the way
[00:16:29] they urbanize, no, like this place was urbanized, how the
[00:16:33] streets are makes people meet, well
[00:16:36] also
[00:16:50] everyone met here, that happens and there are many artists, many
[00:16:53] people with cultural level, it's beautiful, the truth is that Parque Chas is
[00:16:57] a world apart for Buenos Aires, it's unique, eh, it's
[00:17:00] unique, it's totally unique, here at the clover,
[00:17:04] I'm not the one who knows the most but always
[00:17:07] licensed, everyone gathers here, well, it's
[00:17:11] what do I know, they come to football and everyone meets, they leave with their mate,
[00:17:15] the whole town, the whole neighborhood, as if it preserves that
[00:17:18] neighborhood feeling that perhaps some neighborhoods lost, here it is
[00:17:21] preserved, look, it seems that the neighbors found out that Crónica Televisión is
[00:17:25] touring Parque Chas and I see that there are some ladies who start to come out a
[00:17:29] little and we really want to know stories, I don't know if I should say
[00:17:33] paranormal stories but there are many stories, legends let's say
[00:17:36] that.
[00:18:07] fincas and another one I don't remember if it was
[00:18:10] Bauness
[00:18:12] uh and if you tell me how to get there, I'll tell you something, I'll tell you that
[00:18:16] because the idea is without GPS, it was to do it and it's to do it without GPS because here
[00:18:20] the curves, everything leads you to the meeting, we'll see you on the other corner at the
[00:18:24] coffee shop.
[00:18:27] Let me tell you this, Christian, someone is writing to me, Pablo writes to me and says,
[00:18:31] "Negrito, there's a legend, I don't know if we can check this, Christian, that you're
[00:18:34] walking through Parque Chas, there's a legend that says that even
[00:18:38] today, today, in reality, there's a bus
[00:18:42] with passengers that has been going around for 40
[00:18:45] years, lost in Parque Chas," it's an urban
[00:18:49] legend, the
[00:18:51] 187 internal 23, ghost
[00:18:55] bus, they sent me, I was also going to ask him just now but I was waiting
[00:18:59] for him to finish with the lady because they told me to ask him about the ghost
[00:19:02] bus, if he knows that they meet at the two
[00:19:06] terrible corners. Let's see Christian, ask about this legend
[00:19:09] and many others that may exist uh well, precisely, I was precisely
[00:19:12] asking Mauna that because you were saying you've
[00:19:16] heard all kinds of stories, I was telling you what Dani was telling us about the
[00:19:19] story of the bus that has been going around for 40 years, you have also heard
[00:19:23] many things, I heard something about the bus but above
[00:19:27] all it's about coming and feeling how people still have a bit
[00:19:30] of a community idea, of neighbors, of a town, the mystique
[00:19:34] the neighborhood has a lot of mystique exactly and many artists,
[00:19:37] great ones live here, from cinema, from theater, eh,
[00:19:41] literature, here we are arriving, we got into a time machine
[00:19:45] in Suarez, the route of the 187
[00:19:49] that got lost, you know there's a corner called Bauness and
[00:19:52] Bauness, Bauness and Bauness, because it's Bauness where it breaks and there's a
[00:19:55] corner, so which one is Bauness and Bauness, look how good, Bauness and
[00:19:59] Bauness, okay, okay, I understood it, I understood it, I understood it, let's see, Christian, come on,
[00:20:03] ask people if they know about the lost bus, let's go to the
[00:20:06] cafe, look. Look, you have, look, I want to give you context,
[00:20:10] you have a bookstore, book store, you have a
[00:20:13] bar, coffee shop next door, and you also have a food truck with some snacks, eh,
[00:20:18] Bermuda Triangle and we are going to enter, let's see, I'm going in, eh, come on, we are with the
[00:20:22] camera, excuse me, how are the guys, a pleasure, coffee, how are
[00:20:25] you, listen, it's a coffee shop to meet here, you
[00:20:29] get lost here, you find yourself, you get lost, you
[00:20:31] find yourself,
[00:20:34] uh, excuse me, do you have any rules not to get lost, they told me not to
[00:20:38] take this street, not to take another road, uh, look, take
[00:20:41] Gandara, we'll be right back, Rodo is calling us urgently,
[00:20:45] come on, come on, come on, don't
[00:20:48] get lost, please.
[00:20:54] Latest
[00:20:55] news,
[00:21:02] loans, debts, and
[00:21:04] threats. Jimena owes 5
[00:21:08] million,
[00:21:11] she claims the lenders are harassing her.
[00:21:15] Her mom is holding a raffle to raise money and pay off the
[00:21:19] debts. My daughter sold everything,
[00:21:23] she tried to commit suicide.
[00:21:36] Jimena, who is the daughter, we are 60
[00:21:39] km from the federal capital, nothing
[00:21:42] of what Jimena sold was enough to pay that sum that you
[00:21:46] rightly said, she sold everything from
[00:21:49] windows of... Ana,
[00:21:52] sheets from her room, the
[00:21:55] kitchen, the refrigerator, a
[00:21:59] box spring, well, nothing is
[00:22:02] enough for a loan, then she took out another one to cover the
[00:22:05] first one, then she had to take out a third one to pay the
[00:22:08] first and second one, she had to take out a fourth one to
[00:22:12] see if she could face the third, the second and the
[00:22:15] first, she owes four loans, she lost
[00:22:19] her main income which was selling clothes here in
[00:22:23] José C. Paz, it's a chaotic situation, on top of that, as
[00:22:27] you rightly said, with this decision she made
[00:22:30] of a suicide attempt, well, everything is very chaotic, we are
[00:22:34] with Jimena, we are with Graciela, well,
[00:22:36] Jimena, everything starts from what, you started
[00:22:40] to have, like every entrepreneurship, the dream of
[00:22:43] having a job, you started to have a clothes store, is that right, a clothes
[00:22:46] store, used clothes, new clothes, I had a bit of
[00:22:50] everything, uh, well, I started well at first, uh,
[00:22:54] then sales started to go down, to
[00:22:57] be able to want to have more and have a big store,
[00:23:00] uh, I took out a loan, uh, I started
[00:23:04] paying, then it became difficult for me
[00:23:06] because nothing was selling anymore,
[00:23:09] I asked for another one to cover a part of that and be able to buy more things, then
[00:23:13] it got complicated with the second one, uh,
[00:23:16] I asked for a third one again to be able to cover a bit of the first, first and
[00:23:20] second and buy more merchandise, it also got
[00:23:23] complicated for me, another one appeared, offered me another one and
[00:23:27] I also took it to cover a part of the rent,
[00:23:30] uh, to be able to cover the others but it wasn't enough, and when I
[00:23:34] realized, I already had uh five
[00:23:37] daily payment lenders that I couldn't pay,
[00:23:41] I ended up asking for monthly, it got complicated again
[00:23:43] more, uh, until well, I couldn't take it anymore and on April
[00:23:47] 4th, uh, I had my first suicide
[00:23:50] attempt, no that they saved me at the
[00:23:53] hospital and and well, now what's left for me is
[00:23:57] to be able to pay, I can't find work, I go out to sell at the fair and some days it
[00:24:01] sells, some days it doesn't, uh, I started selling
[00:24:04] food, eh, I also sold well for a week,
[00:24:08] then nothing sold anymore,
[00:24:12] uh, now on August 28th, I tried to throw myself under the train,
[00:24:15] no, please, but well, I don't know, something
[00:24:18] made me go back home and while
[00:24:21] we are going to show now the room where Jimena sleeps,
[00:24:25] you are a mother of how many children, of five, I have five
[00:24:28] children, four live with me, the oldest one, uh, she moved in because she has a
[00:24:32] girl and and
[00:24:35] well, so I'm with the four youngest children, in
[00:24:38] this room that we are showing,
[00:24:41] we see how many beds, three beds,
[00:24:44] how many people sleep there, I sleep in one
[00:24:47] below with the youngest one, in the other
[00:24:50] one sleeps my 17-year-old son and in the other
[00:24:53] one sleeps my 11-year-old son, my 13-year-old daughter doesn't
[00:24:57] sleep with me, she sleeps with my mom because uh well, I sold the box spring and it's the two box springs I
[00:25:00] had, so she had to go to sleep with
[00:25:04] my mom, let's say, of course, now we were
[00:25:07] sleeping at my mom's because the other day an outlet caught fire and I was left without
[00:25:11] electricity, so we are sleeping, my youngest son,
[00:25:15] uh, my mom, my 13-year-old
[00:25:18] daughter and I in the bed and then my other son throws a mattress and
[00:25:22] the other one sleeps on the couch because when it rains we can't be here and even less without
[00:25:26] electricity, I invite you to
[00:25:28] connect
[00:25:31] while you were listening to the note, Dani, the
[00:25:34] last thing, eh, she doesn't have a door in the
[00:25:38] I say room, no, because it's like
[00:25:42] she arranged as a room and it's good, no,
[00:25:45] Rodo, excuse me, Rodo, you're telling me she doesn't have an access door, she doesn't
[00:25:49] have, she doesn't have a door directly, the house doesn't
[00:25:52] have a door, no, no,
[00:25:55] because the other half, the house was longer,
[00:25:58] the other half, eh, since I didn't
[00:26:02] have. and my sister had nowhere to live, I sold her half last
[00:26:05] year and a wall was built, I had the door to
[00:26:09] put it, but since I was building last year that
[00:26:12] I had bought everything to be able to
[00:26:14] finish, eh, then I sold all the doors and didn't put the
[00:26:18] door, I had a curtain directly that I took off now
[00:26:21] because well, with the rain, I had to wash it, you mean you sold the
[00:26:25] door of your house to be able to cancel part
[00:26:29] of the loan, half of the house, that is, you sold almost
[00:26:32] everything, I mean I sold everything yes,
[00:26:36] and and how much do you still have left, I was left with these beds, luckily,
[00:26:39] how much do you owe today now to cover and
[00:26:43] stay yes, to cover and stay
[00:26:46] calm, to be able to sleep peacefully, it's approximately 5
[00:26:49] million, 5 million pesos,
[00:26:53] no, eh, and and she practically sold everything
[00:26:56] she has in the house to be able to cover the hole, no, the
[00:26:59] desperation, I don't want to get into what Rodo was saying, which is the intention
[00:27:03] to take her own life, do you have support, you
[00:27:07] have a professional who is accompanying you, eh,
[00:27:09] I, I was with treatment,
[00:27:12] eh, I stopped the treatment because the
[00:27:16] pills, I had to take two a day and I was completely
[00:27:19] drugged, so I couldn't help my mom with the kids, eh, my mom is
[00:27:23] an elderly lady, which was a huge burden for her, so
[00:27:27] I decided to stop the treatment, in the second suicide attempt I had,
[00:27:32] recover, and leave the burden of raising my mom didn't come to the hospital because if they took me, they'd admit me, and
[00:27:36] they told me it was 15 days to a month, yes, and it was
[00:27:40] too much for her to stay with the kids. Of course, that's why I'm not
[00:27:43] hospitalized. Yes, I understand. You had to
[00:27:47] choose: either get hospitalized and
[00:27:50] your children to your mom,
[00:27:53] or not get hospitalized and help your old lady and take care of your
[00:27:57] kids, even with the suffering of
[00:28:00] having attempted to take your life. No, it's a
[00:28:03] terrible story. Now it's terrible. Where, I ask the
[00:28:07] following, no, where where are you
[00:28:10] living? Because maybe people can come, they can
[00:28:13] donate a bed, they can donate some bricks, they can donate
[00:28:17] cement, they can donate the door, they can help you in some
[00:28:20] way so that you little by little and with some things
[00:28:24] can get ahead. Where do you live, where is your house located, what
[00:28:28] street? Uh, José C. Paz, La
[00:28:31] Paz neighborhood, uh, Andrés Blanqui street, 3628.
[00:28:35] Yes, well, when Rodo, our colleague Jime,
[00:28:39] darling, was talking about threats, yes.
[00:28:41] Uh, how long have you been suffering these threats, and
[00:28:45] how are they, in what way do they
[00:28:47] threaten you?
[00:28:50] Uh, no, look, the Colombians, I have lenders who don't
[00:28:53] rush me, uh, they know my situation, and they're not rushing me. These
[00:28:57] are the monthly ones, the daily ones that I owe, and it's been
[00:29:01] 8 months now.
[00:29:03] They are Colombians who come on
[00:29:06] motorcycles, I don't know their names because the ones you
[00:29:10] owe monthly are Argentinians, they are lenders who
[00:29:13] know you, they are Argentinians, they say "stop, I understand, I'll give you a little more
[00:29:17] time." Now, the Colombians threaten you every day, they are the ones
[00:29:21] who charge you daily, right? And when they tell you the threats, they
[00:29:24] are face-to-face, they approach your house
[00:29:26] on their motorcycles.
[00:29:28] And they don't want... what they tell you is, "This could get
[00:29:32] worse, the others will come." And
[00:29:35] they don't use anyone's names, why?
[00:29:38] Because they don't deal with transfers, they deal with
[00:29:42] cash, because if they dealt with transfers, if
[00:29:45] I wanted to report them, I would have their data, of course. So what do they do? They
[00:29:49] deal with cash so as not to leave any trace of anything, of course, of course,
[00:29:53] of course. And they approach, it catches my attention, it
[00:29:57] worries me when it says "the others," because the
[00:30:00] threat, there are several, because one keeps falling. No, no, but the others
[00:30:03] I think are the ones who will try to assassinate her, or because the
[00:30:07] ones who threaten her with death are like that. Jimena, do you interpret the same as me?
[00:30:11] When they say "the others," they are the ones who do the dirty work,
[00:30:13] right?
[00:30:15] Of course, well, the last time uh that I answered them, because after that I told my
[00:30:19] brother to directly tell them that I wasn't there,
[00:30:23] many times they came when I was at my appointment with the psychiatrist or the
[00:30:27] psychologist, uh, and I just grabbed and told him, "Well, tell them I'm at the
[00:30:31] doctor," uh, I would tell him in the end, because the
[00:30:34] last time I spoke, one grabbed and told
[00:30:37] me, "I want the money, and I want it now, I don't care about your problems." So I
[00:30:41] grabbed and told him, "Well, you have enough to eat every day, sometimes I don't even have enough to
[00:30:45] buy a package of rice for my children," I tell him, "so
[00:30:48] understand that I don't have it," because I'm giving you an idea, I tell him, "so you
[00:30:52] know my situation, I tell him, I have things
[00:30:55] to sell, I tell him, uh, but well, at the moment they don't
[00:30:58] come out."