CRONICA — broadcast 20261010 193000 UTC 397 transcript segments Google Cloud Speech-to-Text API (Chirp) + Gemini 2.5 Flash Non-Thinking Data courtesy of The GDELT Project (https://www.gdeltproject.org/), from the Internet Archive TV News Archive. Machine transcription. Treat it as a searchable index of what was broadcast, not a verbatim quotation record. [00:01:15] because they kick you out of the room, what I'm [00:01:24] Fabiola, yes, let's see what [00:06:27] correct, one does not achieve it with opinions, [00:06:31] because if you look at me like that seriously, do you want me to tell you what's coming [00:06:34] now especially for you? Do you want me to [00:06:37] political recital that President Javier [00:06:41] Gerardo Miley is going to give? Did you see that, Pablo? [00:06:44] Oh well, now you're going to find out because we're getting into [00:06:48] politics, entertainment, politics, entertainment and [00:06:51] show, show, guys, we have a lot [00:06:55] of material because give me it fully, of course, politics, [00:06:58] entertainment show, guys, what you are going to see now, I think this [00:07:02] commercial didn't even have the Rolling Stones, it didn't [00:07:05] even have U2, no, nobody, [00:07:07] guys, nobody, not even Messi in his farewell had [00:07:11] such a thing. The Lion presents himself, he prepares because he is [00:07:14] going to give a new recital and he announces it this way, we're getting [00:07:17] into politics, entertainment and show, come on, [00:07:20] let's go, [00:07:23] a unique political event in [00:07:25] history, [00:07:28] the recital that turned an [00:07:30] election around, [00:07:34] Javier Miley and the [00:07:35] presidential band, [00:07:39] an unforgettable night, re-edited with [00:07:43] more cameras and [00:07:48] La Libertad [00:07:50] Avanza, no world leader can [00:07:52] match it, [00:07:56] Tuesday, October 13, 8 [00:07:58] p.m. [00:08:06] Stone thrower stone thrower [00:08:09] stone thrower [00:08:24] This is true, well, the president posted it on his social networks, the commercial is [00:08:27] true, it is true that this event is coming, he likes to sing, he [00:08:31] likes to jump, he likes to encourage, I don't know if the [00:08:34] country is ready for so many recitals, Pablo, I don't know, I [00:08:38] think so, I think it's in freedom, we have the freedom to do it, who pays [00:08:42] for this, who pays for it, the private entrepreneurs, do we pay [00:08:46] for it, who pays, the private [00:08:47] sector, but I liked the chorus, gather stones, [00:08:51] throw stones, gather stones, throw stones, it's very good [00:08:54] because that reflects a lot of what our society was years [00:08:58] ago, but I love it, yes, yes, yes, well, there we saw the [00:09:02] president, would you like to participate, the commercial is [00:09:05] strong, guys, it's strong because you see a president of the nation who in the commercial [00:09:09] says the most important in the world, well, well, he [00:09:13] considers himself the most important in the world, the one who also got involved in [00:09:16] giving his opinion about Milei, but he said I don't give a damn, it's [00:09:20] Mario Daniel, you know that Mario is giving a lot of opinions, really a lot, [00:09:23] be careful with Mario, guys, maybe he doesn't want to get into politics, [00:09:26] he's very intelligent, I don't think so, well, I don't [00:09:29] think so, here, you see, what Mario says is that everything Milei says doesn't [00:09:33] matter, if he insults, it doesn't matter, if he announces [00:09:36] a measure he's about to launch, it doesn't matter, that's what Mario [00:09:40] Pargolini said, do you want to share it? The moment of Mario's cut, [00:09:44] well, we have Dana, yes, [00:09:47] come on, hit and run, come on, how much does a guy like Milei [00:09:51] occupy your mind, I don't know, nothing, nothing, [00:09:54] nothing, nothing, nothing, he's the president of your [00:09:57] country, he defines many things that happen in the country, I'm going to say an exaggerated number, but I don't [00:10:01] think it's this number, 80% of the people don't [00:10:04] care about Milei, Milei, Milei's insults, whatever [00:10:08] Milei says about anyone, [00:10:11] justify it. They don't care, no, it's not in [00:10:14] their, it's not in their daily life, it's not in their conversation, it's not [00:10:18] there, they say, oh, look how he insulted [00:10:21] someone, has it happened to you, in the same way they [00:10:24] say: hand me the sugar, hand me the sugar, if [00:10:27] you saw that he cursed Donnel, son of a bitch, no, no, or someone [00:10:30] else will be indignant, but no, and I [00:10:33] don't think Americans care much about Trump or Xi [00:10:37] Jinping to the Chinese, well, [00:10:40] and what, but that's logical, no, no, no, you told [00:10:43] me it was logical, I'm not asking, I don't know, no, it's not [00:10:46] logical, but you don't care, how much does a guy like [00:10:50] Milei occupy your mind, I don't know, nothing, nothing [00:10:52] at all... nothing, nothing at all, he's the president of your [00:10:56] country, he defines many things that happen in the country, I'm going to say an exaggerated number, but I don't [00:10:59] think it's this number, 80% of the people don't [00:11:03] care about Milei, Milei, Milei's insults, whatever [00:11:06] Milei says about anyone, [00:11:09] justify it, no, they don't [00:11:13] care, no, it's not in their, it's not in their [00:11:16] daily life, it's not in their conversation, it's not [00:11:18] there, they say, oh, look how he insulted [00:11:21] someone, has it happened to you, in the same way they say: [00:11:25] hand me the sugar, hand me the sugar, if you saw that he [00:11:28] cursed, son of a bitch, no, no, or someone else will be indignant, but [00:11:31] no, no, as I don't think Americans [00:11:35] care much about Trump or Xi Jinping to the [00:11:38] Chinese, well, and what, but it's [00:11:42] logical, no, no, no, you told me it was logical, I'm not asking, I don't know, [00:11:46] no, it's not logical. [00:11:49] Well, Mario is always sharp in his [00:11:52] statements, no, he says, I don't care about anything. [00:12:18] I think that he, I agree a little because I think people are worried about other [00:12:21] things, not about how Milei insults. [00:12:25] Of course, there are many things, there are problems and people are [00:12:28] worried because they can't make their salary last until the [00:12:32] end of the month. I fully agree with what Pergolini says, [00:12:35] look, in this particular case, because I believe that [00:12:38] 80% or maybe a little more of Argentinians do not have [00:12:42] access to either the president or the presidential [00:12:45] provisions of the national state, they have no access to anything, [00:12:48] therefore, what they do, yes, has an effect, [00:12:52] that is, the consequences, the consequences. It has no effect because the [00:12:55] truth is that 20% is bad or good because it is [00:12:59] supposed that, let's see, that uppercase word that could be [00:13:03] your dad when you were a kid, that authority, if no one pays [00:13:06] attention to it, no one listens to it, it goes unnoticed, it's a problem for the [00:13:09] country, the president's voice is not heard, which is what Mario [00:13:15] Milei says matter? Nothing, he says, no matter if it's heard or not heard, the problem is the [00:13:19] actions, people today see what the actions are, the [00:13:22] reflexes, at least the daily [00:13:25] news, what is happening, but in reality, it has no influence, [00:13:29] the 80% and the 20% is what those who have a [00:13:32] political aspiration talk about, but it's only 20%, that's why I think that [00:13:37] what Pergolini says for me, yes, according to what Mario says in this take that [00:13:41] we were seeing, saying Milei cursed is like me telling Lucia [00:13:45] to hand me the coffee cup, it's clear, it's like nothing, but why do [00:13:49] people have to, why do people have to put up with the president's [00:13:53] insults, which I don't know if they put up with there? Well, according to Pergolini, [00:13:56] he doesn't care what we say, he earned a [00:13:59] label, as if it was naturalized, [00:14:03] when he won the campaign, he won it with insults, with violence, [00:14:07] that is, the country, more than half extreme, but not this extreme, more than half, [00:14:10] but then you get used to it, so people didn't vote because he insulted [00:14:14] or voted for the hope of the [00:14:17] result, if not, it seems like the results, he can talk to you with a rosy [00:14:21] color. [00:14:23] If results appear, yes. That there is an impetus, an [00:14:27] impetus from the president that goes forward, fantastic, that's [00:14:31] fine, that's all very well, the president goes forward, he's tough, that's [00:14:34] great, I like that he has guts, that he goes for it, everything, any [00:14:38] president, that's one thing, now the lack of respect [00:14:42] is another thing, and from there downwards, I mean, I, [00:14:46] I, a fifth-year, fourth-year student, I say, damn, if the [00:14:49] president curses or less, first grade, second grade, if I say, [00:14:53] if the president curses, [00:14:56] why can't I do it at school? It's a knee-jerk reaction, naturalizing [00:15:00] that is dangerous, because that is natural, it is natural, [00:15:04] because look what happens, what happens in the different venues like [00:15:07] Congress and the Senate, they already start to [00:15:11] play with elements and you have that clip, Dana, that clip where they play a [00:15:15] gossip show where the senators and [00:15:19] deputies are talking and it says the following, it says: let's [00:15:22] listen now to the president. [00:15:37] Yes, but well, that's the first premise that is true, that he has a [00:15:40] behavior in which he curses one, curses the [00:15:44] other, that's fine, but you missed another premise that we have to see, who does he [00:15:48] curse, why does he [00:15:48] curse them? [00:15:52] I heard you, not to justify it, let's look at the premise there, the [00:15:55] result, that the president is a [00:15:59] role model for teenagers or for our children, the role model starts at [00:16:03] home, because then if the president steals, what are we going to justify [00:16:06] that... we talked about it, I think last week or the week before, every time [00:16:10] we touch on this, people are interested, you see that [00:16:13] many children took their parents, their grandparents [00:16:17] to vote, vote for whom, for Javier Milei, the rockstar, that's [00:16:21] fine, that's what he wanted, he activated [00:16:24] civic duty, I think it's fantastic, that [00:16:28] he awakens an interest in young people, I love that young [00:16:31] people identify with Milei, that's great, [00:16:35] on the one hand, on the other hand we're going to try to analyze the [00:16:38] cursing, what's wrong is wrong, I don't like it when a human [00:16:42] being curses, demeans, [00:16:46] insults, it's not good, but this unfortunately [00:16:48] happens, it happens and what happened in the Senate [00:16:52] happened, that a senator and a senator each from [00:16:55] their cell phone put the insults from both Miley [00:16:59] and Alberto Fernández to [00:17:02] happened in the Senate, eh, now when you have it ready, let me know and we'll put it on [00:17:06] air, this example that you manifest gives rise [00:17:09] if the president curses, whatever color it is, guys, if the president curses, [00:17:13] here we are not talking about political color, we are [00:17:17] talking about, let's see, I prefer him to curse and not [00:17:18] rob me. [00:17:22] One of the two things should be not to curse and not to steal. If I feel [00:17:27] me, I ask you, he didn't curse me. [00:17:30] Eh, [00:17:33] doctor, doctor, doctor, and doctor, you who are dealing with [00:17:36] the trials, can you curse the judge when you [00:17:40] bring the cases forward, can [00:17:43] you curse the judge? No, because in reality, no, because there is an organ that acts as [00:17:47] a police, the organ that acts as a police [00:17:50] orders the room and orders the [00:17:53] trial, which does not happen in the Senate, and not in the country [00:17:56] either, it should happen, it should [00:17:59] happen because the seats are paid, the person should not occupy the [00:18:03] space, that is, violence, mistreatment should be avoided... [00:18:12] Many words are said, bad words, [00:18:15] aggressions, the time of the [00:18:19] deputies, the time of the deputies and senators and all [00:18:22] officials is our time, eh, it's our time, the [00:18:26] time that we pay them and first we elect [00:18:30] them and pay them to be in those positions, so for me to see a deputy or a [00:18:33] senator who in their precinct, in their seat, in their chair... [00:18:38] says well, I want to put an audio when Milei curses, I say, [00:18:41] sorry, that time is mine, because and he put it, eh, also going back to the [00:18:45] trial, they kick you out of the hearing, they kick [00:18:48] you out of the, they throw you out of the [00:18:53] the room, this happened recently with those who are in [00:18:57] that important position, look, this [00:19:00] occupies your, let's see guys, we're putting it on, there [00:19:04] goes once to a stupid journalist. I'm [00:19:07] totalitarian, I'm just saying you're an ass, [00:19:11] now new in millimeters, I'm going to put it in your head, in the garbage, [00:19:15] the filthy rats to one of these shits, [00:19:18] left-wing sons of bitches, tremble, you daughter of a [00:19:22] bitch, your mother's c*nt, for that we pay [00:19:25] you, useless, left-wing sons of bitches, there you have it, my [00:19:29] balls, I'm going to ask for the state, the state, stick it [00:19:32] up your ass, your mother's fucking [00:19:35] c*nt, well I think... that those of us who are [00:19:39] here cannot tolerate or [00:19:42] normalize that the president of the nation, the highest [00:19:46] institutional authority of [00:19:47] Argentina, [00:19:50] expresses himself this way, the [00:19:52] selective indignation too, let's see if you can guess [00:19:56] whose audio this is, I'm not [00:19:57] saying, [00:20:05] I don't know if you recognize the voice, do you? [00:20:37] putting an audio of Mariana naniz cursing at Pájaro Caniggia, it's not Lío [00:20:41] Pecoraro putting an audio of some [00:20:44] celebrity cursing another, no, no, no, it's not an entertainment show with [00:20:47] its protagonists, they are politicians. [00:20:50] Yes, our employees whom we pay and this, well, President, [00:20:54] politicians and everything that happens, this is in the chamber, this is in the [00:20:58] Senate, no, in the Senate of the Nation this was happening, eh, [00:21:01] now I say, eh, the man [00:21:04] eh, who was playing the audio just now was talking about Alberto Fernández, [00:21:08] Alberto Fernández has a heavy case coming for the lawsuit he [00:21:12] intends to bring against Fabiola, [00:21:15] Pablo's actions and the acts of violence he committed against Fabiola, keep in mind [00:21:18] that he did that during his term as president, before and during, [00:21:22] so what is it that they curse you or that [00:21:26] he is a [00:21:27] president, [00:21:32] sorry, so I invite you, since you like to challenge, to curse [00:21:36] the judge in the next trial and see what happens to you, of course, I'm not saying as [00:21:40] an example, [00:21:43] it's not about cursing, but it is about putting a judge or a prosecutor in their place, [00:21:47] that seems correct to me, as long as you are within... [00:22:05] saying is that here both situations are violent, [00:22:08] both situations are horrible, both are presidents, at the time [00:22:12] he was president, the difference is that here what [00:22:16] Milei has in this case is authenticity, he was voted for. It's not [00:22:20] that he went crazy now, he was voted for knowing that [00:22:23] character, in contrast, the other one has the [00:22:26] double face, the hypocrisy of showing a [00:22:30] face of goodness, of goodness and a double type and a good guy, and [00:22:34] he was a violent person who insulted. You [00:22:37] work with violence, with gender violence, I feel when [00:22:40] I hear the president like that, I feel [00:22:43] violated, I don't like it, I don't like [00:22:46] it, I don't share it, it doesn't seem [00:22:50] right to me. So, what was more credible? How was he in [00:22:53] public? Divine. So what's more credible? Respect, [00:22:57] Monica, I know, I ask for respect, I mean, just as I wouldn't like Cristina [00:23:00] to curse me, I wouldn't like the social [00:23:03] phenomenon, why does it keep going, of course, but the social [00:23:07] phenomenon, Monica, the social phenomenon stops with [00:23:10] authority, [00:23:12] it's with authority, everything has a limit which is authority, so if [00:23:16] someone feels affected specifically in terms [00:23:20] of verbal actions, if one takes [00:23:23] it that way, yes, there are courts, I want to [00:23:25] know, [00:23:28] how many went, none went, on the other hand, in the other president when he was [00:23:31] abused, a woman went and reported it and today we go, both [00:23:35] situations, as a reflection, I invite everyone to answer this [00:23:39] question, let's see, when a person makes the [00:23:42] decision to yell, almost never, they don't make the decision, it's [00:23:46] something impulsive, but just like blows. [00:23:50] So blows are not impulsive, it's a way, it's a [00:23:53] behavior, well, well, it's something when there is no a rational being is [00:23:56] weakened, so the human being instead of being in the part here there is [00:24:00] something that is simpler, what is wrong is [00:24:06] the interview he gave with Majul recently, he said what do you prefer, [00:24:09] a president who curses you or do you prefer a [00:24:13] president who robs you, I, let's see, neither of the two [00:24:16] things. [00:24:18] Well, if you have to choose. If you have to choose one of the two [00:24:21] things, you have to choose and well, then what do we do? [00:24:25] Choose, guys, so if I have [00:24:28] my husband who beats me up or my husband [00:24:31] who [00:24:33] curses [00:24:38] and let's go with another [00:24:40] In something the doctor is right when she says [00:24:44] we, society, are also complaining about what we voted for, [00:24:49] him was like that, it wasn't in the next year there are [00:24:52] elections, just as on the 25th there is the runoff [00:24:55] between Lula and Bolsonaro in the [00:24:57] polls, [00:25:00] as Marado said, they have it inside, Pablo, let's see [00:25:04] one, I like it, as Lío often says, I [00:25:08] am a partisan, no, I'm not interested in [00:25:12] colors, I want the country to do well, I want Argentinians to do well, but no, but [00:25:15] I don't share forms that seem unpleasant to me, I don't share that Cristina [00:25:19] has robbed, she has a case, I don't share [00:25:23] that Máximo drives a van that has an arrest warrant, [00:25:27] I don't share that the president curses us, I don't share that the [00:25:31] deputies and senators curse each other because it's not a good example for [00:25:34] society, it seems to me, it seems to me that we are talking about logical [00:25:38] issues of values, of education, I'm going to ask the two doctors, can [00:25:42] a group of citizens get together and file a complaint to improve [00:25:46] the president's way of speaking, why would they do it, why, what affectation does it have? [00:25:56] But he is the highest authority, if the highest authority speaks like that, [00:26:00] how can I speak afterwards? Well, let's do one thing. [00:26:10] where Mario Pargolini also continues to get involved in the internal affairs of the PJ, now [00:26:13] he uses artificial [00:26:16] intelligence to also hit with his stick, let's share it, [00:26:20] look eh, [00:26:23] you know that Peronism is going through a moment of definitions, they are trying to [00:26:26] see if they find who the true opposition is, but well, they have the problem that they are [00:26:30] fighting a lot among themselves and we have seen some attempts that are being [00:26:34] made to get closer, especially perhaps the two people who are having [00:26:37] this discussion, more extreme levels, on the one hand [00:26:41] Máximo and on the other hand Kicillof who it seems that [00:26:45] they cannot get together, we have already seen here a proposal where they [00:26:48] did comedy, [00:26:51] not comedy, they made comedy movies, they made movies like [00:26:54] caricaturesque, sure, like the craziest bathers in the [00:26:58] world, yes, well now they are presenting a joint hour, let's see [00:27:02] if it works? Go ahead, what kind of play? A revista, like, more spicy than the [00:27:05] gayutas, something that drives me crazy, Justicialism, Corrientes street returns, [00:27:09] the revista with the comedy duo you weren't expecting. [00:27:13] First act, Sergio runs for president and beats Macley, second act, [00:27:17] Sergio runs for president and beats Milei, what's the play called? I don't know, how they [00:27:20] massaged him, they sure know how to spice things up between [00:27:24] themselves, I'm not in a relationship, I'm more alone than Axel at a La Cámpora [00:27:28] event, they are two experts in chicanery, the child says mom, mom, at school [00:27:31] they say that those... look and he replies, don't worry, Maximo, and they will also have the [00:27:35] special participation of an unforgettable star, someone [00:27:39] who marked an era, a figure who will always [00:27:42] be remembered. [00:27:47] They arrive at Corrientes street and are ready to steal a [00:27:50] smile from you, because as politicians they are great [00:27:53] humorists. Axel and Maximo in [00:27:57] Justicialísimos. [00:27:59] What's wrong, have you never seen a statesman in [00:28:03] action? From Thursday to Sunday, tickets with discounts for PJ affiliates, [00:28:07] Justicialísimos, I'm going there, no, yes, I want to [00:28:10] see it, no, there's no way, there are no more tickets, there are no more [00:28:14] tickets, [00:28:18] they realize, tickets sold out, tickets sold out, [00:28:21] who writes the script for this, who [00:28:24] writes it, Borenstein with [00:28:26] Mario, whose son is [00:28:30] Bor. [00:28:33] Do you remember Tato, how he used to play with no one, no one was like him, [00:28:37] his son wrote for Tato ah, he was writing since [00:28:40] adolescence, I congratulate [00:28:44] I congratulate the creativity of Mario's program, they go overboard [00:28:48] many times, but in some matters that I don't like, but they have [00:28:51] a creativity, an originality, a lot of work, many people [00:28:55] working behind this program, we have to congratulate the authors of that program, [00:28:59] there are many screenwriters, authors, directors, the staging, the [00:29:02] lights and also he laughs at everything, you know, he laughs at all political [00:29:06] parties, neither, it's not that he makes ideology or campaign, he [00:29:10] laughs all the time at this show business of [00:29:13] politics, it's a show business, well, politics continues to give us something to talk about, another [00:29:16] strong element of this week is Patricia [00:29:20] Bullrich with a prosecutor, Pablo, surely we didn't talk about it [00:29:23] off-camera, sorry, but I think you have the Chocobar case very present, [00:29:27] clear, yes, we all have it present, the Chocobar case, the Chocobar case was a [00:29:31] before and after in Argentina [00:29:34] when that policeman [00:29:37] ended up killing the thief and from [00:29:40] that moment the famous Chocobar [00:29:43] case appears, look at the prosecutor with [00:29:47] Patricia Bulrich, what [00:29:50] happened just a few days ago, we share it, [00:29:54] that justice does not [00:29:57] support the correct action of a policeman, I want to [00:30:01] state that. I want to tell the doctor that the [00:30:05] prosecution was going for an easy trigger homicide and I at no [00:30:08] time considered that the policeman acted as an easy trigger, far from [00:30:12] that what we talked about was the excess because the amount [00:30:15] including shots how he shot at the person, I have everything [00:30:19] proven in the case doctor unfortunately that [00:30:22] position and the criterion that you have and Dr. Soto who [00:30:26] is present here was the one who was as Chocobar's defender [00:30:29] acting and could see the way and what he presented to me. and in the way I [00:30:33] did it, I undoubtedly cannot avoid when all, [00:30:37] including the parties and consider as what I consider [00:30:40] was an excess, what is being judged here for [00:30:44] a position that at no time is against the police, [00:30:47] it is manifesting in a specific case what this [00:30:51] public ministry requested because it understood that it was what was appropriate, [00:30:54] undoubtedly there was an excess and I cannot fail to [00:30:57] point it out in front of the...