CRONICA — broadcast 20261010 200000 UTC 392 transcript segments Google Cloud Speech-to-Text API (Chirp) + Gemini 2.5 Flash Non-Thinking Data courtesy of The GDELT Project (https://www.gdeltproject.org/), from the Internet Archive TV News Archive. Machine transcription. Treat it as a searchable index of what was broadcast, not a verbatim quotation record. [00:00:00] of a policeman, I want to make that clear, I want to tell the [00:00:03] doctor, the complaint was for a trigger-happy homicide, [00:00:07] and I at no time considered that the policeman acted as [00:00:10] trigger-happy, far from that, what we talked about was the [00:00:14] excess because the quantity of shots, how he shot at [00:00:17] the person, I have everything proven in the case, doctor, [00:00:20] unfortunately, that position, [00:00:24] the criterion that you have and Dr. Soto who is here present was the one who [00:00:28] was acting as Chocobar's defender. And he could see the way and what I [00:00:32] presented and the way I did it, undoubtedly I cannot [00:00:35] avoid it when all parties, including, consider what [00:00:39] I consider was an excess. What is being [00:00:43] judged here, based on a position that at no time is against the [00:00:47] police, is manifesting in a concrete case what [00:00:50] this public ministry requested because it understood that it was what [00:00:53] was appropriate. Undoubtedly there was an excess and I cannot [00:00:57] help but point it out in the face of the practically [00:01:01] accusation I receive at this [00:01:03] tears, they decided to stay in moment, which seems completely, excuse me, unprecedented to my [00:01:06] 50-year career as prosecutor, and I can assure you that you [00:01:09] can observe from the different positions I held that I always [00:01:13] did it by studying the case. [00:01:16] So when we vote for a prosecutor for minors, we have to know what her [00:01:20] actions have been in concrete cases of public [00:01:24] knowledge, like the Chocobar case, who [00:01:27] was unjustly condemned, when he had [00:01:31] saved a person's life. What I also say is that he didn't [00:01:35] save them because you save when you hand over the camera and leave, [00:01:38] he didn't save them, he didn't shoot when he's not... a technical [00:01:41] detail because he didn't save him, what he tried to do was stop a person [00:01:45] by shooting at them, that's all I have to [00:01:48] what, you know what I gave, everything point out, because at no point did he save the victim, the victim was already [00:01:51] lying down, already on the ground when he passed by [00:01:54] there. A [00:01:57] prosecutor with authority in front of... [00:02:01] that Patricia is in the eye of the storm between whether she's friends or [00:02:05] fighting with Mil, they're not [00:02:07] most known worldwide, right? One of friends, I think they're friends, well they were in the quinta de [00:02:10] Oliva together. Uh, I think Patricia has more desire to go [00:02:14] her own way but well she understands that there's a movement, yes but she tried many times [00:02:17] Patricia but it doesn't fit or it fits where there's a place here they're wrong [00:02:21] in both aspects I think the prosecutor also partly [00:02:24] has specific details she [00:02:28] shot a person who was escaping, yes. who had stabbed, we are talking about the [00:02:32] Chocobar case, Chocobar, that [00:02:35] the medical board were partially criminal had stabbed a tourist, a foreign tourist, several [00:02:38] times to rob him and in that she also didn't explain [00:02:41] that, so you see that she didn't explain it well that we are having cuts [00:02:45] guys out there. For me the error is, for me the error [00:02:49] is above because in a democratic system it [00:02:52] discuss it, it was within is characterized by the three [00:02:55] compare himself, I don't know, everyone compares themselves to absolutely independent powers, executive power, [00:02:58] judicial power and legislative power. [00:03:08] The prosecutor, let's see, you have to understand this very technical, because legitimate [00:03:11] defense is given, it is also given by the degree of [00:03:14] proportionality, proportionality goes against [00:03:17] what is legitimate defense, it is legitimate defense, he acted in [00:03:21] good faith, he acted in the exercise of a function, [00:03:26] And Fernando Burlando is the lawyer for yes, now we are looking at proportionality, based on that, it ends. He was sentenced [00:03:31] important, what to 2 years for Chocobar, so what is the prosecutor seeing? The truth is [00:03:34] she sees only one, one parameter, but in [00:03:38] criminal matters, unfortunately, a prosecutor, you may be 50 [00:03:42] years old, but the truth is you seem like an [00:03:44] that, I'm going to take away listening to ass because the exante, the [00:03:46] judicial power does not have to be accountable to the legislative [00:03:49] or [00:03:51] executive power. [00:03:54] his house and let him sit in an [00:03:56] independent court. [00:04:00] explanation proportionality, that's what [00:04:03] that refers to, proportionality with the possibilities of [00:04:07] legitimate defense, now there is a criminal act, one was [00:04:11] stabbed many times and [00:04:14] of them, what the doctor says ended up seriously injured, but who do you give explanations to, who are you giving [00:04:16] explanations to, the legislative power, the executive power, to [00:04:19] whom, why, if it's an independent power, the judicial [00:04:23] power, that's what democracy is based on, well, but why did she sit down, she's [00:04:27] the one who went, did someone force her? So [00:04:31] it has to [00:04:32] He compared himself all the time, no, what [00:04:44] be independent, it's the basis of our democratic system, unless [00:04:48] the prosecutor wants a seat, let's see, from a [00:04:51] prosecutor she has to go to the chamber prosecutor and with this she's seeking media attention [00:04:55] which could be because many use the media to climb, we can [00:04:59] make the... the honor of saying the phrase within the [00:05:02] law everything and outside the law [00:05:05] nothing, I mean, I mean, we can also [00:05:08] move [00:05:11] reached a position, one is president of along that edge yes. Yes, but if there's a case, there's a judicial [00:05:15] case that had first instance, had [00:05:18] appeals, there's a judicial system that has up to the supreme [00:05:21] court, what does a legislative or [00:05:25] executive power have to do with interfering, they are three different powers, [00:05:28] and why do we see and why do we see this picture, why does it happen, because she [00:05:32] demands it and why does the prosecutor give [00:05:36] explanations, if a ruling was bad, but within [00:05:39] each power when we say. dangerous [00:05:42] for a democratic system, that's what I think, well you [00:05:45] know, let's make a point in this tape and we're going to move [00:05:49] on to another one that has to do with politics, with the show and the spectacle too, [00:05:53] you know, we all know what happened with Messi who [00:05:56] said goodbye in that game eh on [00:05:59] Tuesday and what Javier Miley did, what Javier [00:06:02] Miley did, he had the audacity to [00:06:04] compare himself to the number one in the [00:06:08] world, to Lionel Messi, for me, for me [00:06:11] it's a... [00:06:42] my law that compared himself to Lionel Messi, my God this is going to [00:06:46] be for everything and more, let's see when you come from [00:06:49] sports, we are not so good when we win nor so bad when [00:06:53] we lose, because in reality, let's say the day you won and you believed it, the next day they [00:06:57] filled your basket, so you know [00:07:01] I had to train for to get used to [00:07:04] finding it inside, you know how ugly it is and yet you put up with it and [00:07:08] you keep going, so life is not to have [00:07:10] failures, life is to keep going even though you have [00:07:14] failures, so get up and keep going, well, so, it goes wrong and [00:07:18] well, you'll try another way, and if there's no other way, let's say [00:07:21] you'll include the restriction and you'll take a path that has [00:08:03] compare himself, guys, to [00:08:07] whoever they want, but comparisons also have that hateful [00:08:11] thing, look. I think that always I talk about respect and [00:08:15] I want to say something with respect, for me Messi and Mil have [00:08:18] nothing to do with all the things you have to go through to [00:08:22] get there, he compares himself in that but he [00:08:25] didn't go through [00:08:28] a quarter of everything he went through in so many years because he doesn't have the [00:08:31] time. [00:08:35] the proportional [00:08:39] that Messi's career, his health situation when he was... [00:08:42] everything was against Messi to become the number one figure, [00:08:46] he is basing the [00:08:49] proportionality [00:08:53] and why not, because it's not [00:08:56] what he said, the comparison in terms of his [00:08:59] talking about the proportion, let's see, [00:09:03] if he from the age of 5 that he plays soccer until he's 39 today, [00:09:07] how many goals he scores, he ends up [00:09:09] making this video because Messi doesn't open doors [00:09:13] for him because he doesn't want to get involved with politics, he never wanted to get [00:09:16] involved, he wants me to open the door because the truth is if you make a [00:09:20] video, let's see, you are an excellent lawyer, I don't see you Pablo [00:09:23] making a video comparing yourself with Burlando, Burlando, Burlando and you are [00:09:27] Pablo G. Olivera, I don't think my [00:09:30] law has compared [00:09:32] with Messi at all, I think he gave a [00:09:36] message that was a nice message, what message? He compared himself all [00:09:39] the time. [00:09:44] he compared is the attitude that happens to all of us and in [00:09:47] any field, what Messi has is from [00:09:50] frustration, not believing it, nor believing [00:09:54] success, [00:09:57] that people interpret other things, [00:10:01] I listen with respect, I listen with respect, don't limit yourself to just [00:10:05] that, I think that my law, he didn't want to be [00:10:08] oblivious to everything that happened nationally, it was practically like [00:10:11] a very important night for all Argentines and he, well, [00:10:15] accompanying the current events, wanted [00:10:18] to compare himself at that important [00:10:20] point that both [00:10:24] the Nation. The Argentine Republic, another world champion, [00:10:27] so the importance of this, of [00:10:29] being resilient, in that aspect he compared himself, we don't [00:10:33] really know about Miley's life, no, no, no [00:10:37] we haven't had the opportunity, we haven't had the opportunity to [00:10:40] delve into it, exactly, well, perhaps [00:10:43] he's very hermetic too, he had [00:10:46] a very particular bond with his parents, yes, well, until before being [00:10:50] president he didn't speak to them, he was so hermetic with the loves he [00:10:53] had. It's [00:16:43] to get into it now, you know that politics, the [00:16:46] spectacle and the show, people like them a lot, but there are also many [00:16:50] police cases that are related to the world of [00:16:53] show business, right? Of the spectacle, the police cases [00:16:57] of the world of entertainment, let's go with that plate, [00:17:01] Dana please, let's put it in full, because there are many characters who [00:17:04] these days are having issues with the... [00:17:08] We're just going to do a review of them and we're going to [00:17:10] try to get into a couple of them there, the doctors, both Pablo Gómez de Olivera [00:17:14] and Dr. Mónica Salvador have [00:17:17] a lot of information on all this at hand, let's clear the screen a bit [00:17:21] Ricardo and let's look there we have Callejero who [00:17:24] just recovered conditional [00:17:26] freedom, he met his son Callejero [00:17:30] Fino, these are police cases, let me [00:17:33] clean the screen for you if you can remove the graphics please, yes, then [00:17:36] we have eh, Piti Álvarez, who is also in a complicated [00:17:40] situation, no, we can't talk about the health [00:17:44] of Piti Álvarez, eh, so the justice system stated at [00:17:48] the request of the lawyers and those who care for him, eh, there's [00:17:51] also the issue of Joaquín Levinton and Paula, this girl [00:17:55] who was harassing him, an important issue is also that of [00:17:58] Facundo Moyano and the meeting with Candela with a restraining [00:18:02] order, there's Maxione's, there's Otoki's, [00:18:05] Rossi's, do you remember Rossi, [00:18:16] somehow with sports as in Diego's case and with [00:18:20] police cases, let's see if you tell [00:18:22] me, uh, give me one to tell the public right now, I'd like [00:18:26] to start with Maradona with the news of the Maradona case [00:18:30] that we have, we have a report on Maradona guys because [00:18:33] of course this that seems like old, the trial, uh, this. [00:18:37] It's just starting, well, but the closing arguments were read on [00:18:40] Thursday, you have to understand that part because everyone says the [00:18:43] closing arguments were read, but what's really important about the [00:18:47] closing arguments, it's an important part, but [00:18:50] it's a preclusion, meaning there won't [00:18:53] be any more evidence, there won't be any more witnesses, [00:18:57] the debate has been closed, there's no [00:19:00] more trial, now the evidence begins to be valued, but [00:19:04] you can't present witnesses, that stage has already been closed. That's [00:19:09] they want to demonstrate today cannot be [00:19:12] demonstrated and the qualification of the prosecutors [00:19:16] there, the prosecutor already asked for the penalties and sentences, he divided it into two [00:19:19] categories for eventual malice where the [00:19:22] doctor, the medical doctor, is, [00:19:25] eventual malice where the doctor is, eventual malice is [00:19:28] when he had intention, meaning he had [00:19:31] intention, he could have avoided it and he didn't avoid it, there he put [00:19:35] the surgeon. They are. [00:19:45] Give me Maradona's photo if you can, the individual ones we have of each one [00:19:51] is right because they qualify it as simple homicide with [00:19:55] eventual malice, but to the rest, to the rest they attribute a [00:19:58] negligent homicide which is totally, there is an [00:20:01] acquittal, [00:20:04] the information from the team is very well [00:20:07] qualified, uh, I'd like to share the report we have on [00:20:11] Maradona to contextualize a [00:20:14] bit what happened in the last few hours with the sentences being requested. [00:20:18] Do we have the ok on the report Dana, let's [00:20:21] go, go, let's go, okay, [00:20:25] okay, here it comes, here it comes, I mean all this [00:20:27] that happened with the Maradona case, the daughters had to [00:20:31] witness and they covered their faces, there we have Diego Armando Maradona [00:20:35] but the daughters had to witness, cover their faces [00:20:38] when they were showing what they were showing, something [00:20:41] very painful for the whole family, the trial is this, the [00:20:44] confrontation, the immediacy are principles [00:20:47] that there are. that speaks of [00:20:51] orality, this is an oral trial and unfortunately one has to speak, one has to [00:20:54] express and one has to say things that can affect [00:20:58] the family. Well, let's watch the report and now we'll debate it and the lawyers will add [00:21:02] data and we'll all get into the topic of Maradona, the closing arguments were read, here's the [00:21:06] report. [00:21:09] And there's less and less time to know if there will be justice for the death of Diego [00:21:13] Maradona, almost 6 months after the start of the trial, through which [00:21:17] 70 witnesses passed in 50 hearings. [00:21:50] and they turn around, there were [00:21:53] the room, despite the [00:21:55] anguish, [00:21:58] and the prosecutors treated the team that had the responsibility of [00:22:02] caring for Diego as improvisers who forgot they were treating a vulnerable [00:22:05] and complex patient. For the accused, they requested these [00:22:09] sentences: for the neurosurgeon Leopoldo Luque, [00:22:12] 12 years in prison and 10 years of disqualification; for Dr. [00:22:16] Nancy Forlini, medical service coordinator, 10 years of... [00:22:20] prison and 10 years of disqualification; for the psychiatrist Agostina Kosachov, [00:22:23] 8 years in prison and 10 years of disqualification. The three accused [00:22:27] for the crime of simple homicide with eventual intent. For the psychologist [00:22:31] Carlos Díaz, they requested 5 years in prison and 10 years [00:22:34] of disqualification. In the case of the nurse Mariano [00:22:38] Perroni, 4 years in prison and eight of [00:22:41] disqualification. And for the nurse Ricardo Almirón, 4 [00:22:45] years in prison and eight of disqualification. The [00:22:48] last three accused. [00:22:51] for negligent homicide. Pay attention, the surprise of the day was received by the clinical [00:22:55] doctor Pedro Dispaña, without charges [00:22:58] because the prosecutors considered that he acted only as a [00:23:02] consultation doctor. [00:23:05] And in response to these arguments by the prosecution, what did the [00:23:09] defense lawyers for Agustina Kosachov and Leopoldo Luque say? We [00:23:12] hear them. In terms of criminal dogmatics, the accusation has serious [00:23:16] deficiencies, in terms of evidence, decontextualized audio was reproduced. [00:23:20] In medical terms, the statements of the witnesses who were here from [00:23:25] valued, so now the "change" is missing, as it would be [00:23:28] popularly said, that our argument. It really seems senseless to me that, for example, the [00:23:32] prosecution at the beginning talks about them ignoring the seriousness of the situation and [00:23:36] then comes to request a deliberate crime that precisely has to do with knowing [00:23:39] something, but well we will [00:23:42] the foreseeable that there would be a [00:23:46] request, let's say, for a conviction for eventual malice, we have... [00:23:50] the confidence that the [00:23:52] sentence will not be in that sense, because the [00:23:55] evidence proved that Kosachov's conduct was correct, the [00:23:59] truth is that the prosecution's argument is correct, we disagree [00:24:02] regarding the legal classification, she was only the [00:24:05] psychiatrist, she medicated him from the psychiatric point of view [00:24:09] and the forensic experts said that the medication was correct, meaning it had no incidence in the [00:24:13] death. [00:24:16] Maradona's daughters, we spoke with him. He [00:24:20] thanks justice for finally getting to where it did, [00:24:24] listen, we are at a stage [00:24:27] that many thought we [00:24:31] wouldn't reach, this trial was [00:24:34] sabotaged, they even tried as a strategy to [00:24:38] seek suspensions to [00:24:41] do something that only harms, I want to make [00:24:45] this very clear, the victims, [00:24:48] it only harms... Dalma, Gianinna, all of Diego Armando [00:24:52] Maradona's children, for the victims the pain has [00:24:55] grown, especially in a wound that they cannot [00:24:58] close, they cannot turn the page, [00:25:01] precisely because justice did not give them an [00:25:04] answer, I today want to thank [00:25:08] the justice of the province of Buenos Aires, and if we really reached [00:25:12] this instance, uh, the [00:25:15] true protagonists of this are them, prosecutors [00:25:19] uh and... times, no, no, no, the [00:25:21] parties. [00:25:25] Strong, strong, everything Maradona's family had to go through, with [00:25:28] this we understand, doctors, that the case is concluded, as Pablo [00:25:32] said, no, let's see, here the evidence [00:25:35] stage, no more witnesses can be presented, [00:25:39] 45 hearings, 70 witnesses, all the [00:25:43] documentary evidence that was reproduced right there in the trial, today [00:25:46] that stage is concluded, now comes [00:25:50] the closing arguments which is to analyze each of the elements and each one [00:25:53] presents their position, the closing arguments are over, the [00:25:57] sentence requested by the prosecutor is already there, the prosecutor so that [00:26:00] Burlando understands. [00:26:02] Because the private party also has to [00:26:05] express itself regarding, well, but the prosecutor's request, the prosecutor is the one who [00:26:09] represents the state, the state has already requested certain [00:26:12] penalties, but we also have to take into account three issues [00:26:15] that the prosecutor's office also decided that were not as publicized, that [00:26:19] they did not request immediate detention, so if they get [00:26:23] the maximum penalty because generally the prosecutor's office asks for the maximum penalty and the [00:26:27] court of those 10 is very likely to give them much less [00:26:30] then but in case. that they would be given the [00:26:33] maximum penalty, they do not request immediate detention [00:26:37] because they are always in the right, [00:26:40] they are only prohibited from leaving the country [00:26:43] abroad because their passports will be withheld, but they can [00:26:47] present themselves in neighboring countries, meaning [00:26:50] that although they will have the penalty, they will have [00:26:54] disqualification, the penalty, of course, disqualification [00:26:57] also gave them a certain character that they will not be behind the [00:27:01] sensation that it is a... don't think that they will be behind bars because they won't [00:27:05] be if they are in the right, doesn't it give you the feeling that it's a party [00:27:09] or a free-for-all, Pablo, it's quite the opposite, let's see, the defense argument [00:27:12] is to analyze each of the evidence and present it before a tribunal, there are three people [00:27:16] who are watching you, which is the tribunal, they are three judges, sorry, [00:27:19] sorry, clarify something, tribunal that this [00:27:23] trial had to be suspended, maybe [00:27:26] well, with another tribunal, but I feel the previous [00:27:29] judge. [00:27:32] I feel ashamed, ashamed of this justice [00:27:36] of some within the justice system, [00:27:40] but you say the tribunal, the tribunal, because let's see, [00:27:43] if I, let's see, I haven't read everything, everything that is the [00:27:47] argument, but if the prosecutor says well, I don't do it or [00:27:50] doesn't express it, I make the reservation, [00:27:54] before a non-favorable conviction, I go to cassation, [00:27:57] it's not necessary to say it, why, because the same norm imposes it on you, [00:28:01] so. it can go to [00:28:04] same, the same norm imposes that the detainee can go because there is a [00:28:08] conviction and in that expectation they can request it, [00:28:11] so when the tribunal [00:28:14] condemns, all these prisoners will have to be there, one [00:28:18] question and and we have some commitments, guys, one question, to [00:28:21] show Diego's deceased [00:28:24] state, horrible, I asked, horrible, is it a media [00:28:27] move or is it a legal move, no, it's a legal move, [00:28:31] it's demonstrating the truth. attention [00:28:46] because the quantum pass arrives, which is an easy, [00:28:50] effective technique to make energy applications [00:28:54] that will facilitate balance and will enhance [00:28:57] the body's innate ability to heal, it is taught by Susana [00:29:01] Mahul, it is online. it will give you a daily resource [00:29:04] to be able to recover energy and connect to states of [00:29:08] peace, in these challenging times, this is next [00:29:11] October 17th, you will be able to learn to connect with the frequency [00:29:15] and also give it to others. 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