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[00:00:00] postpone the Pope's visit for later,
[00:00:03] Doc, any type of surgery of that kind
[00:00:06] is, uh, there will be a lot of discussion about this
[00:00:10] topic, but
[00:00:14] just remember that
[00:00:17] uh in in airplane flights and at
[00:00:22] uh despite altitude, at altitude, uh
[00:00:25] what drops a lot is the pressure.
[00:00:28] Oxygen pressure, the barometric pressure drops, and therefore
[00:00:32] the oxygen pressure drops. That in
[00:00:35] itself could already be an inconvenience. On
[00:00:39] the other hand, in airplane cabins,
[00:00:42] uh, the pressure is lower than the
[00:00:45] pressure here in the
[00:00:48] channel, and that, if there were any noise or
[00:00:51] any lesion,
[00:00:53] uh
[00:00:56] any air bubble that remained, for example, to do
[00:01:00] certain things, could also be very
[00:01:02] they raised it on a long complicated. That's why once the
[00:01:05] surgery is over, once that week
[00:01:07] of initial evaluation
[00:01:10] passes, we have to see if the person is in
[00:01:13] condition, I'm talking about anyone in condition
[00:01:18] late nights or to get on a plane, so to speak, it would not be the most
[00:01:22] advisable thing to do
[00:01:27] whatever comes up, No, I don't know, 15, 20 days after a surgery of that magnitude, for someone to take a flight.
[00:01:30] Uh, not just one, but many, there are several, of course, of course, that's why
[00:01:34] we said it's a journey, it's a whole circuit that he has to do with a whole logistics.
[00:01:38] So now there is concretely the possibility that perhaps the Pope, instead
[00:01:41] of coming now in November, will come from March or April next year, more than anything for
[00:01:45] a health issue, kid, yes, the operation can
[00:01:47] It won't be, it won't be much, what also be postponed, you never know, an operation can be postponed,
[00:01:51] uh, one can go through life with a pulmonary nodule or run a
[00:01:55] risk, Doc, yes, the the issue is
[00:01:59] that it is not known if it is uh a nodule, I have a
[00:02:02] nodule, I consult a patient and I remove a
[00:02:07] a lot of consumption, do you notice it in the movement on a nodule, so is that nodule a cancer or is it a finding or is
[00:02:11] it something benign? So for that there is what is called
[00:02:14] here are coming back. Very good. And how do you see the
[00:02:15] We became friends in the Dominican Republic with follow-up, well, in 6 months you come back, I'll do
[00:02:18] another tomography, I'll see if you are with if that nodule increased, an
[00:02:22] increase in size, the shape of the nodule is important, if
[00:02:26] it is rounded as if it were a
[00:02:30] lesion, a coin, or if it has
[00:02:33] spicules, irregular
[00:02:35] borders are also important, the size, more
[00:02:38] or less 10 mm, 1
[00:02:41] cm, uh, and if it is done or not
[00:02:44] done, uh, if it is more than 10 mm, one can consider doing what
[00:02:48] we call a PET scan, which is a
[00:02:51] tomographic study that
[00:02:55] adds a study with a radiotracer and tells me if that nodule is active, that is, it has metabolic
[00:02:58] activity, or it is a scar or it is
[00:03:01] something.
[00:03:04] So, in the case that it is a nodule more than 10
[00:03:07] mm in diameter with spiculated borders and a positive
[00:03:11] PET scan, the ideal is that you get operated, the ideal is that you get
[00:03:15] operated. Many of the patients who come to the
[00:03:19] office of clinical pulmonologists, oncologists
[00:03:22] or thoracic surgeons, the
[00:03:26] presence, the appearance of a nodule less than 10 mm in diameter,
[00:03:30] what one usually does is
[00:03:33] to monitor within a presential period of 3-6
[00:03:37] months, the evolution of that nodule, that is,
[00:03:41] many patients are there with their nodules
[00:03:44] waiting to know,
[00:03:47] according to the evolution they have, if they are going to be surgical
[00:03:50] or not. Of course, for
[00:03:52] me, the strange thing is if he already had this surgery scheduled
[00:03:56] a long time ago, why did they also schedule the visit? That's the
[00:04:00] strange thing, I mean, with both dates so close, why do they schedule the
[00:04:03] visit so close in terms of date to the
[00:04:06] operation? Do you understand what I mean? Yes, of course, yes, yes,
[00:04:10] yes, yes, yes, perhaps a study that needs to be operated on already, you never
[00:04:14] know, who knows, it could be that the nodule appeared at the last moment and that perhaps
[00:04:18] they scheduled that surgery in the last few
[00:04:20] weeks. Uh, it's possible, it's possible,
[00:04:24] because it wouldn't be logical, it wouldn't be
[00:04:27] coherent to think that I have to...
[00:04:30] operate, I know I have to operate on a nodule, I'm planning
[00:04:33] a congress in Brazil in 20
[00:04:37] days after the surgery, no, it wouldn't be
[00:04:39] very logical, so maybe it was a
[00:04:43] surprise, a finding from the last medical
[00:04:46] check-up that suggests to the
[00:04:51] look, this is the girls' table, of doctors who are seeing him there in Italy that, well,
[00:04:53] watch out, it's preferable,
[00:04:56] Good, all friends, I imagine, from we have a chance, well, let's take it out.
[00:04:59] Going back, going back to one of the first questions, if it's a peripheral
[00:05:02] nodule without signs of malignancy, it's like
[00:05:06] pepper, served on a plate with a drink, no, sorry, the currently with video-assisted thoracoscopy,
[00:05:10] a surgery can be performed. So
[00:05:12] to speak, although it is the thorax and all surgeries are
[00:05:16] risky, it is a minimally
[00:05:18] invasive surgery compared to those performed with open
[00:05:22] chest, of course, and of course it is total anesthesia, that also
[00:05:26] requires how serious it
[00:05:28] is, no, total, you have to
[00:05:30] be
[00:05:34] the best that one, the best hands, it always happens
[00:05:38] that accidents can occur, all thoracic
[00:05:41] surgery is a major surgery, agreed,
[00:05:44] because it is an operation, not an intervention,
[00:05:48] uh, clear, so, a surgical intervention is an
[00:05:51] operation, this is an operation, it is a
[00:05:55] big person, a person of 71 is old or
[00:05:58] young, uh, to put their body through that
[00:06:00] operation,
[00:06:03] okay, uh, in two years I'll be
[00:06:05] 70,
[00:06:08] young, respond well, look, you know what happens.
[00:06:12] It's a lot, youth is
[00:06:16] a lot about how you've been living your life, right? How
[00:06:20] you've been living your life, uh, a
[00:06:22] sporty person who more or less takes care of themselves, who doesn't smoke, who
[00:06:26] doesn't have too many excesses with alcohol or
[00:06:31] whatever, uh, will possibly arrive better at
[00:06:34] 71 than someone who is 50, right? But
[00:06:38] that's why, depending a lot, uh, someone said,
[00:06:41] despite that a bit of age, this
[00:06:44] has shifted, it has shifted a bit, this old age
[00:06:48] has shifted a bit more, Doc, you're an adolescent,
[00:06:52] Doc, listen, they're passing me the info that
[00:06:55] this 3 mm nodule did come out in the Pope's
[00:06:59] last medical check-up, is it big? We're talking about an
[00:07:03] important 3 mm nodule or is it tiny? 3 mm, 3
[00:07:07] mm is almost nothing, it's very small, okay,
[00:07:10] okay, but does it still need to be removed? Doc, if you don't remove it,
[00:07:13] can that nodule grow? Of course, but
[00:07:17] it can grow, but one comes into play here with what I was telling you before,
[00:07:20] well, I'll check you in six months to see what happened with that nodule, if
[00:07:24] that nodule grew from 3 mm to 8,
[00:07:27] something is happening here, but if in 3 months that
[00:07:31] nodule is still 3 mm, it's possible
[00:07:34] that I'll tell you, well, in 6 months I'll repeat another
[00:07:37] study, so I'll keep observing
[00:07:41] the behavior of that
[00:07:44] nodule, because otherwise currently with the
[00:07:47] tomographies that exist, which are of very good and high
[00:07:50] resolution, nodules always appear in the lungs,
[00:07:54] so, uh, what things, what habits
[00:07:57] generate a certain proclivity in the
[00:08:01] organism for nodules to appear, I mean, what
[00:08:04] things should the Pope stop doing with the
[00:08:08] aim of preventing the proliferation of nodules, correct me if I'm
[00:08:11] saying something wrong... uh, yes, no, yes, yes, nodules,
[00:08:15] so to speak, to make a very quick classification, well, they can
[00:08:18] be cancers, neoplastic, those
[00:08:22] the lung nodule that already has an issue
[00:08:25] involved is cigarettes, tobacco, smoking,
[00:08:29] smoking, being in environments with
[00:08:32] toxins like that with smoke
[00:08:35] or, uh, that can generate a
[00:08:38] predisposition to lung cancer, of course, adenocarcinomas.
[00:09:42] socialite Tom sure you, Martin, yes, that's fine, what you
[00:09:46] Martin, no, I think that
[00:09:48] Francis
[00:09:50] Bergoglio, for everyone knew him, I get that impression, you know that
[00:09:54] you go and talk to anyone and they say oh, I went to school, oh,
[00:09:57] my first communion, so I liked
[00:10:01] that a lot, but this Pope is not Argentine, that's why, but he came to
[00:10:03] Argentina, who did he like better? No, as an Argentine,
[00:10:07] I obviously loved that the Pope was also, as you said, you knew someone, I
[00:10:11] knew the nephews, all girls, when they rented movies and
[00:10:14] games, it was from one of their nephews, yes, what I would have liked is that as an
[00:10:18] Argentine, he would have come to Argentina, it seems that's what he won't miss, a
[00:10:22] Lola Lula, no, please, I ask you, eh.
[00:10:49] Molto has a proposal for every moment because Molto is a family of products with quality and flavor to
[00:10:51] accompany your table.
[00:10:55] Every single day, we are nominated for Martín Fierro, great
[00:10:58] Molto.
[00:11:06] Fomarol in the kitchen, for
[00:11:08] quality.
[00:12:03] we're back with you, Mother's Day consumption, Recoleta, are you going
[00:12:07] to Recoleta, Lula, do you like Recoleta? Uh, yes, only, well, yes, yes,
[00:12:10] I have my friends, people, I don't live there, but I go, obviously, Lula always goes, always,
[00:12:14] my dear Leito, let's see how many people there are, my
[00:12:17] love, it's packed, look at the amount of tables,
[00:12:21] impressive.
[00:12:40] them, oh my god, on a trip, on a trip, yes, and today
[00:12:43] how much do you plan to spend? Did you come with a budget? How
[00:12:47] are we doing for time? Because we're going to bowling and we came to eat something until they
[00:12:50] call us, something chill, we're going to order something and drink something
[00:12:54] chill, how did you see the prices? Quite good here,
[00:12:57] Temple, how much did you spend per person?
[00:13:00] We ordered a pizza, and we're having the
[00:13:03] Asian hot dog, I think, look, I'll read it to you, beef and bacon hot dog,
[00:13:07] with Asian sauce, how much is it? 14 thousand,
[00:13:10] 14,500, good,
[00:13:14] with 30 thousand per couple, you'll make it, we're good, yes, what are you drinking, what are
[00:13:17] you adding to drink? A summer red wine, oh, good,
[00:13:21] the drinks they're handling, so I can't, but
[00:14:00] let's go with more people, Leo, let's go with more people, of course,
[00:14:03] of course, yes, how nice,
[00:14:06] guys, good evening, how are you doing, how
[00:14:09] are you? How are things? We're voting live
[00:14:13] for this long weekend, yes, yes, that it's not raining, that it's not raining and that it's a little
[00:14:16] cold, just a little, but now it's nice, are you from here, from
[00:14:20] Buenos Aires? Yes, we are from here, the professor is
[00:14:23] listening to you. Yes, no, among
[00:14:26] friends, we saw that raindrops were falling and we said, well,
[00:14:29] let's go, what are you going to eat? Have you already seen the menu?
[00:14:33] Yes, yes, how are the
[00:14:35] prices?
[00:14:38] Oh, good, but because we're going to share among
[00:14:42] all of us, nothing, we're going to snack on some
[00:14:45] fries, some little things like that, how much do you plan to
[00:14:48] spend per person? I didn't check.
[00:14:52] Nine, nine, how much do you plan to spend, this for
[00:14:55] today? 40 thousand at most, I don't
[00:14:58] know, more or less, yes, per person, per
[00:15:02] what, let's say, per one, uh, no idea,
[00:15:25] How nice, in Mar del Plata, what are you studying? Medicine,
[00:15:28] medicine, spectacular, look, we have a mobile now just in Mar del
[00:15:31] Plata. How
[00:15:35] good.
[00:15:43] Last night you went out, did you make any plans? Uh, yes,
[00:15:46] yesterday we also came to eat and today, but
[00:15:50] the truth is we're a bit tired of being out all day, yes,
[00:15:53] of course, good, but well, that's good, how much budget do you have today each
[00:15:57] one to spend? Do you have an idea more or less how much you're going to
[00:16:00] spend? Ah,
[00:16:01] today,
[00:16:05] no, maximum, girls, no,
[00:16:08] no, more or less 40 around there, yes, more
[00:16:11] or less, yes, for dinner, yes, 40
[00:16:15] more or less, yes, 40, more or less, 40 for this dinner, good, and for
[00:16:19] the whole trip, have you calculated that too? No, not really,
[00:16:22] and I don't know if I want to
[00:16:33] see, a bit older people, I think our audience. I'm
[00:16:46] live, how are you all doing? Everything calm, friends, who
[00:16:49] came to have a drink? Yes, we came to hang out
[00:16:53] and enjoy ourselves. Are you from here, from the capital? Yes, from here, from
[00:16:56] the capital. Do you have a budget today to,
[00:16:59] let's say, spend tonight?
[00:17:04] whatever has to be, whatever has to come out, good, and good, the menu, how
[00:17:08] are the prices? Good, normal, as expected, yes,
[00:17:12] as expected, the girls were telling me 40, 50 per head, more
[00:17:15] or less between food and drink. We, a
[00:17:19] million,
[00:17:21] what do you do for work, Leo? You didn't worry much about the,
[00:17:25] they're asking me here in the studio,
[00:17:27] and
[00:17:30] flirting.
[00:17:32] Yes, no, clearly not that, but well, the price is good, we didn't see it as
[00:17:36] bad, do you notice there's consumption?
[00:17:41] Tomás Dentes asks me if there's
[00:17:44] the street? Today it's busy, yes, today the
[00:17:48] area is very good, the area was good, yes, I'm not going to say no, as
[00:17:51] for movement, yes, yes, there was
[00:18:02] are you drinking? Summer red wine, summer red wine,
[00:18:06] listen, uh, a budget for tonight,
[00:18:08] did you put something together low? I don't know if it's a
[00:18:11] night, one of friends or a couple, how
[00:18:15] is it going? As a couple, we are,
[00:18:18] we went out to eat for my birthday, your
[00:18:20] birthday, happy
[00:18:31] 28, 28, yes, where are you guys from? From
[00:18:33] Chile, they're also. I have the
[00:18:37] accent, it's just as expensive, just as expensive as
[00:18:40] Argentina, yes, yes, it's expensive, so you notice
[00:18:44] little difference here in prices, very little, very little, the calculation is
[00:18:47] like 70, 80, I don't
[00:18:51] know, almost the same price, we're seeing that
[00:18:54] comparison, did you go to see theater, what other activities
[00:18:57] did you do? Today we went to
[00:18:59] Caminito, the Santelmo fair,
[00:19:03] everything very nice, lots of people, nothing,
[00:19:06] then comparing prices. Trying to make the most of
[00:19:09] Argentina, what did you try today? A
[00:19:12] choripán, how delicious, how delicious,
[00:19:14] a little choripán.
[00:19:18] Listen, we're leaving, we're going from one end of the country to the other because Rusito from Mar del Plata is
[00:19:21] there, we'll be right back, we're going back and forth quickly, Rusita is with people, we're going to compare the
[00:19:25] prices, yes, there, how is Mar del Plata, my dear Rusita,
[00:19:28] let's see, you're with, oh, look, I'm going to put on my glasses, hello, who
[00:19:32] are you with, my love? I'm here with
[00:19:35] Luz, the truth is Luz, a total
[00:19:39] genius, I want to say something, Tomy, you said that
[00:19:42] you drink your coffee with almond milk, how much,
[00:19:46] almond milk, more or less 7000, 8000
[00:19:48] pesos, well, here it is, we're
[00:19:51] talking about 5800 pesos, how
[00:19:55] good, how delicious.
[00:19:59] pesos, so that you can see that these are the
[00:20:02] prices, ask Luz, my love, if you'd be so kind,
[00:20:05] what promotion do you have for tonight? For example, eating a pizza, some empanadas there at the
[00:20:09] place, I don't know if it's a coffee shop or that, how much
[00:20:13] is it here with Tomy Dente who is here now that we're live,
[00:20:16] how much does it cost to eat a pizza, you told me, Tomy, yes, some
[00:20:20] empanadas, a pizza, a sandwich,
[00:20:23] a promotion for tonight, what would it be, Luz, for example, today's daily menu
[00:20:27] we have uh, bring her the microphone, Rusita,
[00:20:31] bring her the microphone, I can't hear
[00:20:34] 7, how much? 27 pesos, 27
[00:20:38] a flank steak with
[00:20:44] starter, the starter, drink, no
[00:20:46] dessert, the microphone. I can't
[00:20:50] hear, my love, that yes, it comes with the dish, the drink
[00:20:54] and the dessert for 25,500, there it is,
[00:20:57] 25,500 pesos would be the
[00:20:59] dish, the drink and the dessert, this was the daily
[00:21:03] menu, listen, here, here Professor
[00:21:06] Recalde celebrates, tell Luz that Professor is clapping, it's a good price, right, Professor? Yes, it's very
[00:21:10] good, 25 thousand, Martincito, what do you say? Mar del Plata has
[00:21:14] good places, good food and good
[00:21:17] prices.
[00:21:20] Tell them if people are happy with the prices, ask Luz, Rusi, please, if
[00:21:24] she's happy with the prices, if they complain, how long since they last raised
[00:21:27] prices, for example, there at the place.
[00:21:31] That's a good question, eh, I liked it, how long since the prices
[00:21:34] here at the place, for example, and they just went up yesterday,
[00:21:38] they went up yesterday, it had been a while, it had been a while since they had
[00:21:41] gone up, but how much was the increase? A lot or a little?
[00:21:45] In some things no, in some things yes, more
[00:21:47] or less.
[00:21:50] Just the same, just weekend.
[00:21:54] Exactly, that's what they do, that's what will make tourists not go, that's what makes tourists
[00:21:58] like you, that's what makes tourists not go or get annoyed because they raise
[00:22:01] prices exactly when they go, so it's more expensive, obviously what they have to do is
[00:22:04] maintain, eh, so that tourism circulates, it's still low, the price of coffee, in
[00:22:08] relation to what you pay in the capital, it's
[00:22:10] low. She just said
[00:22:13] appetizer, main course and dessert for 25 thousand, that's good, no, it's
[00:22:17] good, yes, maybe they had to increase it because otherwise, besides, Luz
[00:22:21] said it only increased a little, no, it increased very little, a small margin of
[00:22:24] money, Russi, that they raised it a lot, on the contrary,
[00:22:28] for the summer there will be an increase, the prices are still the same, I
[00:22:32] think there will be some increase.
[00:22:37] Lucy is telling me here, no, also many people who come, tourists, are
[00:22:40] impressed with how cheap it is, oh, she says that tourists are impressed with how
[00:22:44] cheap and economical it is. We're
[00:22:47] talking, do they pay in cash or with card? How is the
[00:22:50] issue of the, uh, and almost everything with card, but well, here
[00:22:53] we have the 10% discount
[00:22:57] for cash, most pay with credit card, and
[00:23:00] well, obviously, if they pay in cash they get a 10%
[00:23:04] discount, and uh, tell me,
[00:23:07] how was this long weekend? Did many people come, did
[00:23:11] few come? How was the panorama that you saw most here? And it was felt more
[00:23:15] yesterday and today, movement of people, so there was a lot compared to what had been
[00:23:18] happening, yes, yes, there was. Well, there were people here, what Luz
[00:23:22] is telling me, her voice is very, very soft, that's why it's not heard
[00:23:25] as much, that's why, but she's telling me that a lot of
[00:23:28] people came, besides, yesterday it was raining, right, Luz? It was raining, yes, but there were still
[00:23:32] a lot of people. Well, and most paying with credit
[00:23:36] card. Good, how many installments, for
[00:23:40] example? We don't have, oh, they don't have installments, so I can come to
[00:23:44] eat dinner and pay in 12 installments? No, how many
[00:23:47] installments? In one, in one payment, in one
[00:24:02] evening. Here, what dishes, the
[00:24:06] truth is abundant, where are you
[00:24:07] from, guys?
[00:24:41] gentleman is telling me that they are from Tigre, from Buenos Aires, how do you see the
[00:24:45] prices? Well, the weekend is a
[00:24:49] flat plan with a green salad, with a
[00:24:52] green salad, good, the prices, how do you see them? You told me they were
[00:24:55] economical, this is the second time we've come here to
[00:24:59] eat at night, good, good, good, until when are you staying? Until
[00:25:02] tomorrow and then you'll fly back to work on
[00:25:05] Tuesday, back to
[00:26:18] Oh, please, there we have her, hello, madam, how are you? A pleasure to
[00:26:22] greet you. Hello, how are you? Good evening.
[00:26:26] Fine, fine, well, how did you find Mar del Plata this long weekend,
[00:26:29] madam? Well, uh, it's
[00:26:33] like always, but the weather.
[00:26:35] Of course, did you find it expensive, did you find the prices
[00:27:01] flirting with?
[00:27:04] No, we were here, we were here, uh,
[00:27:07] a lot of people, look at the circulation that
[00:27:10] there is, eh, all over the sector, there are some
[00:27:14] bars here too, some who are already
[00:27:48] how are they seeing the prices compared to La Pampa? Did they tell
[00:27:52] you anything, did they say anything? Uh, no,
[00:27:55] actually quite similar, besides. they usually come often so
[00:28:17] economic movement? Uh, the truth is, we went out yesterday and today and
[00:28:20] there were a lot of people everywhere. Yes, many people queuing everywhere.
[00:28:24] Well, thank you very much. Thanks. There are the girls from La
[00:28:28] Pampa who were with their friends