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[00:00:47] the gym door yes
[00:01:12] well the stroke
[00:01:24] Roña, we will, later we will give Roña
[00:01:31] they eat inside, peop... people go with
[00:02:02] last
[00:02:03] minute, puts big pots on top of
[00:02:09] the drama of choosing between eating or
[00:02:11] taking medicine,
[00:02:17] on Tuesday the
[00:02:18] inflation will be known, does your
[00:02:22] salary cover it,
[00:02:26] allow me because of the eight out of 10 Argentines say that they lose. against
[00:02:30] inflation,
[00:02:39] eight out of 10 Argentines
[00:02:40] say,
[00:02:50] there is the reality,
[00:02:53] that of at least 50% of the
[00:02:56] country, the reality that,
[00:03:01] losing my sight because of the stroke has to do with those who do not have money to go on vacation, with those
[00:03:05] who do not have money to walk around
[00:03:08] Recoleta to spend 40, 50, 60, 70
[00:03:11] thousand pesos in one night, people who
[00:03:14] have to debate between eating
[00:03:18] or
[00:03:31] the question is if your
[00:03:51] everyone and well here we have a reality, the truth is
[00:03:55] that it hits us Sunday Sunday I'm with
[00:03:58] Silvio and Juana Silvio. just two months ago he had a
[00:04:01] stroke, he was a painter, now he
[00:04:04] can no longer practice his job, Juana is also a
[00:04:08] pensioner and well, they are struggling, not between buying
[00:04:11] medicines as you said or eating,
[00:04:14] unfortunately that's the reality, I repeat that it hits us
[00:04:45] said eight out of 10 people in the Argentine republic
[00:04:48] assure that we are already at the end of the month, it's a long weekend
[00:04:52] that could be an excellent
[00:04:57] to sell what I have, what off, with family, with loved ones, but there's
[00:04:59] no... margin, no margin to make it to the end of the month, let's listen to this case
[00:05:03] study, a family that says: if I buy the
[00:05:06] medicines I need to
[00:05:08] put things on maintain a decent quality of life, without
[00:05:10] pain in... facing a health difficulty, no
[00:05:14] how, well, that's the dilemma we are facing,
[00:05:18] while the president already said that on Tuesday he will go to the United
[00:05:43] you know Juanvio that there are many numbers
[00:05:47] circulating in first person we want, come on,
[00:05:50] tell me what happens is, you see, I used to work
[00:05:53] as a painter, I used to go around the Flores
[00:05:57] area
[00:06:00] and and I worked every day I had work and well and
[00:06:03] then I lost my job and I started
[00:06:06] to get upset because I didn't have a job
[00:06:10] and and well I had a stroke.
[00:06:13] and the stroke with diabetes
[00:06:16] and and I have a bad
[00:06:19] wound and and
[00:06:25] ruined me, I can't move my arm,
[00:06:29] cane, with a tripod here I don't know if you
[00:06:32] see it eh and and well
[00:06:36] I'm trying to survive, I want to get ahead and and I can't
[00:06:39] buy the medicines I need to take.
[00:06:43] besides, because I don't have a source of
[00:06:45] income,
[00:06:48] it's terrible, Lur, my wife is also
[00:06:51] retired, a pensioner and we
[00:06:55] don't make it to the end of the month, of course, Silvio, tell us what the
[00:06:58] panorama is, every month you have to face medicines, you
[00:07:02] know them, you know, but approximately how much money
[00:07:05] you need every month for you and your wife to
[00:07:09] face monthly expenses, because we know that is mandatory. that
[00:07:12] should be a priority in any
[00:07:14] family
[00:07:16] and well every month more or less I have to have more
[00:07:20] or less eh like 22000 pesos
[00:07:24] to buy his medicines 200,000
[00:07:27] pesos at the beginning yes and today how
[00:07:31] are they doing
[00:07:34] and well I bought him some medicine but
[00:07:38] others I couldn't buy him because I really don't have enough money.
[00:07:42] do they have any family or a network Juana said
[00:07:45] Lurdes sorry, Juana told me that she had to
[00:07:49] make raffles to raise money and be able to buy him medicines
[00:07:52] on one occasion, yes, yes, I made a raffle in the neighborhood
[00:07:56] they helped me and well I was able to sell the tickets to buy him
[00:08:00] his medicines, of course, Juana, I know you do
[00:08:02] juggling, you do juggling, but we know that raffles cannot
[00:08:06] be constant, every month you won't be able to do it
[00:08:08] like that,
[00:08:13] need are his medicines really
[00:08:16] because eh there's one I couldn't buy him
[00:08:20] and he's been without that medicine for more than
[00:08:23] 5 days and what does that generate, are they pains, is it
[00:08:27] a treatment for something
[00:08:29] chronic
[00:08:31] he has to take those medicines for life, yes or
[00:08:35] yes
[00:08:37] yes or yes he has to take all the medicines every day and there's
[00:08:41] no way to suspend that treatment, now it's been 5
[00:08:44] days since he's been taking it, no,
[00:08:47] taking it, I have them, I
[00:08:50] brought all the boxes here, all of them are empty, the boxes
[00:08:54] that medicine I couldn't
[00:08:56] buy him, and do they have
[00:09:00] family, do they have children, do they have siblings,
[00:09:03] tell us, I have my, I have, I have my daughter,
[00:09:07] but they can't find work, they are out of work,
[00:09:11] do you own your home? at least you give me
[00:09:15] yes it's my house fortunately
[00:09:17] well it is but eh yes thank God yes eh Juana
[00:09:21] serves some point there because someone might
[00:09:25] just be tuning in, someone might just start watching the show yes and
[00:09:29] I tell them they live in Argentina they are
[00:09:32] Argentines they work in this country
[00:09:35] and they try to survive in this country because
[00:09:38] sometimes when one listens, I mean this Juana, because when one sometimes listens
[00:09:42] to officials on certain programs, one thinks that
[00:09:45] these problems don't exist, that they are from another country, that this doesn't
[00:09:51] you tell, I don't think you are the only ones in the neighborhood who are
[00:09:55] in this situation, or yes, no, there are
[00:09:58] many people, there are many people who don't have medicine, they either
[00:10:02] eat or buy their medicines, I go twice
[00:10:05] a week to the fair eh,
[00:10:10] my daughter brings me when she goes to
[00:10:13] the capital she brings me and I sell the things that she brings
[00:10:16] me and with that more or less
[00:10:20] to be able to eh you manage to eat but it's not enough for
[00:10:23] medicines. No, no, because
[00:10:27] sometimes you sell 10,000, 15,000,
[00:10:29] 2000, that's what you can sell per day,
[00:10:33] and it's twice a week that I go to the
[00:10:37] weekend, some insist on showing an Argentina, I don't know, with
[00:10:41] full shopping malls, no, just now the the president also posted a
[00:10:45] shopping center saying, look, consumption is flying, people
[00:10:48] have some money to spend, what did you eat today, tell us about the
[00:10:52] weekend, how did you spend it, you are wrong.
[00:10:58] Come on, I'm ashamed to say, no, no, but but it seems to me that I know
[00:11:02] that the president is completely wrong because things are not
[00:11:06] like he says, I've been living it for
[00:11:09] many years that people don't have
[00:11:11] enough money
[00:11:15] and with a pension
[00:11:18] even less, because I used to go out to work to
[00:11:22] supplement my income, no, and so that
[00:11:25] we don't lack anything every day, sometimes we
[00:11:29] don't even have money to buy bread, it's the
[00:11:31] truth
[00:11:34] and thank God we get flour that some
[00:11:38] friends in the gospel
[00:11:41] give us we make homemade
[00:11:45] bread, yes, even the stove wasn't working so my brother-in-law came who
[00:11:49] goes to church and fixed my stove
[00:11:53] and we were able to cook pizza, pre-pizza to sell
[00:11:57] too
[00:11:59] that's how we make money to be able to have
[00:12:02] food
[00:12:06] and and well and with the laughter my friends also tell me
[00:12:09] to do another raffle but you can't just live
[00:12:13] off raffles
[00:12:17] no, besides you're a hard worker, you're a
[00:12:20] hard worker, things are chaotic you're a hard worker, you're two
[00:12:23] hard workers, do you hear me, yes
[00:12:46] and at this moment I can't because my leg and arm don't
[00:12:51] stroke I had clear.
[00:12:55] I have to
[00:12:57] here I'm like seven blocks from my neighborhood and to the station
[00:13:01] I have like seven more, so I have to go by
[00:13:04] train to Retiro, then from Retiro I have to go to Constitución, then from
[00:13:08] Constitución take the train to Monte Grande, then I have
[00:13:12] to walk four blocks, five blocks to the ophthalmological hospital which is
[00:13:16] a very good hospital, I'm going to say that because the
[00:13:19] truth is that I get injections in my eyes because I have cataracts and
[00:13:23] retina. I'm
[00:13:26] I had
[00:13:29] and and I was getting treatment for arthritis and cervical, as
[00:13:33] I am a painter, I painted roofs and I never realized,
[00:13:36] I went up and down scaffolding, went up
[00:13:39] ladders, all when I could, no,
[00:13:43] now I can't even go up a step to get on the
[00:13:45] sidewalk,
[00:14:25] the Argentina that has 200,000 pesos left over to
[00:14:28] eat out with the family, I have no doubt
[00:14:31] that there is a part of Argentina that has 2 million pesos
[00:14:35] available to go with the family
[00:14:38] to spend two days on the Argentine Atlantic coast,
[00:14:41] I have no doubt that that happens, but
[00:14:45] there are two things to consider, it seems to me,
[00:14:49] on which side of the scale are there more people, those who can or can't?
[00:14:52] pueden?
[00:14:55] And what is most important to
[00:14:58] show, so that someone takes charge and
[00:15:00] solves it? What should we
[00:15:04] show?
[00:15:07] Recoleta with people who can pay 100,000 for a plate of
[00:15:10] food or people who can't buy medicine? I know that
[00:15:14] both things exist in Argentina, I'm not stupid, I know that
[00:15:18] both things exist in
[00:15:19] Argentina,
[00:15:22] but it's also a decision of what we have to show.
[00:15:25] Because there are people who have their things solved and there are other people who need us to
[00:15:29] do our job,
[00:15:33] television or in the newspapers so that someone looks at
[00:15:36] them because they are visible to the ruling
[00:15:40] class, for those who can go to Mar del Plata
[00:15:43] perhaps, I mean, it seems to me that there is also
[00:15:47] a responsibility in that, Jorge Roña
[00:15:51] Castro is with us, thank you, thank you for
[00:15:54] coming, good evening, you know this
[00:15:57] reality well, this happens every day, every day,
[00:16:00] it happens in the soup kitchens, in the community kitchens, these people
[00:16:03] come continuously to my
[00:16:06] gym. to get medicine,
[00:16:10] help, I see it, I see it every single day
[00:16:14] this situation that the man there is commenting on
[00:16:17] that the woman comments eh every weekend
[00:16:20] I have 1 people, 1 people at
[00:16:24] yes yes asking for help eh asking for help yes
[00:16:28] asking me for help I don't give
[00:16:31] eh eh non-perishable food I
[00:16:34] give them flour I give them
[00:16:37] yerba, tomato, noodles, oil, polenta, lentils,
[00:16:41] peas, I give them eight nine products sometimes eh per
[00:16:45] day nothing, because when I have leftovers eh I give to the people who
[00:16:48] I say I have 1 people because I give out 1 numbers
[00:16:52] you understand, so of course, surely there are more, and then the
[00:16:56] soup kitchens eh it's terrible, the
[00:16:59] soup kitchens one thing is to tell you here, another thing
[00:17:03] is to see it, you understand, people go with people, they don't stay,
[00:17:08] the container, they come back, you serve a spoonful, it's a portion for each
[00:17:12] person, nothing, they take four or five
[00:17:15] spoonfuls because they have a large family nothing, now
[00:17:19] precisely also they
[00:17:22] called me eh a stove had broken that we put on the
[00:17:25] burner and it has a, I gave them
[00:17:29] a stove that has four burners eh and the
[00:17:33] burners broke and they say it doesn't turn on and nobody
[00:17:38] the stove, there are people who cook with wood, not
[00:17:42] wood, but well, eh they are the players
[00:17:46] people who are next to the rigachuelo, you understand that
[00:17:50] they give food there in Solano, that they give in Quilmes,
[00:17:52] you know, I help all the soup kitchens, well this is happening, now they
[00:17:56] asked me if I could buy them the stove,
[00:18:00] nothing, I always give that they give us
[00:18:03] help, I give the Instagram, the Instagram Locomotora
[00:18:06] and the Facebook Locomotora that they can help us, whoever has a
[00:18:10] stove, we always give the alias too which is
[00:18:13] foundation. Locomotora is my foundation, foundation.locomotora, whoever wants to help there,
[00:18:16] there they can help us to
[00:18:20] be able to buy a stove, to be able to help people,
[00:18:24] that's the nice thing, eh, I always show it, I show it, but
[00:18:27] this is happening what these people are saying, today
[00:18:31] eh they are suffering for a kilo
[00:18:34] of bread, Roña, are there more retirees? yes,
[00:18:38] many, many, many more who come to ask for help and more retirees,
[00:18:41] many more
[00:18:42] elderly people,
[00:18:46] it's hard for me to talk because well so that people
[00:18:49] know also eh yes, many retirees, many elderly people, many
[00:18:53] elderly people which is very new, no, this is new, this is from
[00:18:56] now 8 months ago,
[00:19:00] before now, the other day we did the
[00:19:03] count, there were 6400 people.
[00:19:07] in total in all, no, because we make everyone who
[00:19:11] comes sign the sheet and and surely
[00:19:14] now 5 months have passed the new count
[00:19:17] there will be many more because there are many there are many new faces there are many new
[00:19:21] faces, of course, you know, I was thinking about that container, the the container
[00:19:25] eh gives many signals, first that perhaps it's the first time
[00:19:29] they ask for eh or that they don't know that or that
[00:19:32] they need people, older people are ashamed to eat
[00:19:36] in the soup kitchen. and that's why they go to get food and well when
[00:19:40] they see a camera they all leave they are ashamed
[00:19:43] and even I am ashamed
[00:19:46] of nothing I always help I do what
[00:19:49] I can eh because it's painful to see what we are going through
[00:19:53] it's true with the other government they say they stole everything but we are much better than
[00:19:57] this government, you understand eh today people cannot
[00:20:00] live people well
[00:20:04] I was seeing the averages that went I don't know how much to the coast in in
[00:20:07] this long week eh nothing to do another
[00:20:11] another week you understand that it was not the
[00:20:14] people who used to go you understand so you
[00:20:18] can tell, you can tell there are people who have it, you understand
[00:20:21] of course I tell people who have it and who don't
[00:20:25] help that they don't have enough nothing in the
[00:20:28] envelope above all wood when it goes they don't put anything inside, you understand, so it's
[00:20:32] difficult I tell them to lend a hand to the people who
[00:20:35] need it most because if you go to my gym on Fridays and
[00:20:39] see, you'll realize the people who are there, the elderly people who
[00:20:42] are there and people always complain, they always
[00:20:45] complain, but well, they complain because they lack, of course, so.
[00:20:50] you see them emotionally, there's talk of a level of
[00:20:53] depression, of emotional breakdown, no, yes, yes, no, depression, many people,
[00:20:56] depression eh, yes, well,
[00:20:59] people me me, those elderly people saw me, saw me yelling always,
[00:21:03] so we talk about yelling, I still tease the old ladies,
[00:21:06] this old lady is not new to me, there are people who go
[00:21:10] who go, we get them wheelchairs, we get them
[00:21:13] crutches, now there's a lady whose leg was amputated
[00:21:16] and we need a crutch so she has. and
[00:21:20] can give us a hand eh, I was going to buy her the
[00:21:24] crutch anyway, but well it's not cheap,
[00:21:27] so we do it, maybe someone eh
[00:21:31] has some a pair of crutches left over eh it will be very
[00:21:34] appreciated, it will be very well received because these people
[00:21:38] eh the truth
[00:21:50] eh, María Luján, we are going to try to help Silvio and Juana
[00:21:53] eh, because they need a lot of
[00:21:56] medicines, they are chronic illnesses
[00:21:58] eh, if they want and if
[00:22:02] we can, we can ask them for an
[00:22:05] to see if we can help them, sorry, can you communicate, I have many medicines
[00:22:08] wait, wait, wait María, because Roña can communicate with
[00:22:14] Silvio's phone number so he can communicate.
[00:22:17] to Silvio so he can communicate.
[00:22:23] I have medicine, eh, he can always count on me, I have many
[00:22:26] friends who are medical representatives and we can get the
[00:22:30] medicines
[00:22:33] Yes, yes, yes, it would be good, it would be good because these people precisely
[00:22:36] to communicate with you because he has many
[00:22:39] remedies to offer them so later we will make
[00:22:42] the contact eh so that they can also receive help
[00:22:46] well, well thank you very much I need.
[00:22:50] of him what remind me of the chronic disease he
[00:22:53] has
[00:22:57] eh yes repeat Agustín no that I
[00:23:00] need his medicines more yes Juana now what
[00:23:03] medicines what medicines are they
[00:23:07] what particularity do they have eh for what
[00:23:10] disease so we get closer there
[00:23:12] by
[00:23:16] the way this is for blood pressure
[00:23:26] a medicine for hypertension for
[00:23:38] second 6000 600
[00:23:41] 60000 the metformin you take which is
[00:23:44] of 1 of 600
[00:23:47] 75000 of 1
[00:24:11] Eva Perón Avenue 4730
[00:24:14] there
[00:24:18] I think I have that for blood pressure. Well, eh Mar, if you
[00:24:22] didn't hear well, Roña has the medicines at the gym
[00:24:25] for blood pressure, at least these two, hypertension and diabetes
[00:24:29] that he needed eh
[00:24:31] and then you can go by the gym eh later we will give you the address every
[00:24:42] Locomotora, which we take advantage of and greet and
[00:24:45] thank him and we put the name of the
[00:24:48] remedies so that well, surely the most
[00:24:51] common ones that are for hypertension surely he must
[00:24:55] have them, the one I need the most is this one, it's the one in this
[00:24:58] box, this one
[00:25:08] this one no this one is not for, this one is for
[00:25:11] diabetes,
[00:25:15] yes, yes, no, no, it's called metformin gliclazide,
[00:25:19] gliclazide.
[00:25:51] What do you see in the neighborhood, because I asked them a while ago if they were the
[00:25:54] only ones, you told me no, but what did you see that
[00:25:58] worsened or improved in the last time in the
[00:26:02] neighborhood? in the neighbors, what
[00:26:05] changed, what improved, what worsened, how do you
[00:26:07] see it?
[00:26:11] No, no, I don't understand, of course, you saw if the neighbors
[00:26:15] are worse, that everything costs them more, yes, everything
[00:26:19] it costs us all
[00:26:23] neighbors
[00:26:25] too, it costs us all
[00:26:29] to leave lost job. and work,
[00:26:33] yes, they don't have work, they don't find work
[00:26:36] either, it's, it's hard for
[00:26:40] everyone,
[00:26:43] eh, Juana, Silvio, I ask you if you still trust or believe in
[00:26:46] politics, if you are interested
[00:26:48] if
[00:26:51] you have hope in some leader, if you want to vote next
[00:26:54] year, if you have already lost hope or you don't
[00:26:57] care, you don't pay attention to that
[00:26:59] issue.
[00:28:03] and diabetes is making me blind and with the stroke
[00:28:07] worse
[00:28:11] it's understood that let's see to review if someone Silvio
[00:28:15] if someone if someone just tuned
[00:28:17] in and sees us we are going to remind them that
[00:28:21] Silvio was working as a painter, meaning
[00:28:24] he wasn't at home, another lazy plan member, he was
[00:28:27] working, things started to get complicated people didn't call him because people
[00:28:31] who hire someone to paint, also had to cut their expenses,
[00:28:35] so the odd jobs started to be cut, the
[00:28:38] worry led him, he had a stroke, let's see if we understand, he had a
[00:28:42] stroke and that's why he had to stop working
[00:28:45] and it's a snowball, now diabetes complicates it for him, he
[00:28:49] can't buy the medicines, I mean the question is until when, right
[00:28:52] Silvio,
[00:28:57] until when, Silvio, because as Lurdes says, you had a
[00:29:00] stroke due to nerves, from not having a job, how do we continue
[00:29:04] and now I'm looking for the hand
[00:29:08] of God, you know, for
[00:29:11] healing by God, because I can't
[00:29:13] find a professional who tells me
[00:29:17] what I really have and because in San Martín I looked for
[00:29:21] appointments, appointments and not
[00:29:23] to mention what a
[00:29:25] neurologist is called, in San Martín there is a
[00:29:29] neurologist for 3 months now.
[00:29:32] looking, calling, and on top of that now you have to communicate by phone personally
[00:29:36] no because there are no appointments, no, well, this happens
[00:29:40] with the look
[00:29:42] and that, but one worries, I get a headache
[00:29:45] obviously, look, I'm going to tell two things eh Silvio, I'm going to tell you two
[00:29:48] things that happened this weekend week one because this
[00:29:52] says there are no shifts in San Martín, the
[00:29:55] Duran Hospital of the National of Buenos Aires is
[00:29:58] absolutely without supplies,
[00:30:01] postponing.
[00:30:03] uh postponing surgeries, that happens in the richest city in the country, of
[00:30:07] course it also happens in San Martín, in the province of Buenos Aires, it happens everywhere, you know why,
[00:30:10] because doctors earn nothing in the Republic of
[00:30:13] Argentina, they earn less and less, there are no nurses, there are no
[00:30:16] anesthesiologists, uh, they are not hired because there is austerity everywhere,
[00:30:20] that happens and I was thinking, it sparked
[00:30:23] me because Silvio said the hand of God, not looking for the hand of
[00:30:26] God,
[00:30:29] nothing, for a particular reason I have people who went
[00:30:33] yesterday to see Father Ignacio in Rosario, a healing
[00:30:36] priest, whose masses are
[00:30:40] multitudinous, multitudinous and
[00:30:44] what they told me about that mass caught my attention, that
[00:30:47] there were so many people asking for
[00:30:50] health issues as people asking for
[00:30:53] work, like a San Cayetano in
[00:30:56] Rosario, in Greater Rosario no, a very