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[00:00:00] take what I'm saying no,
[00:00:03] yes, it's like that, it's like that, it's
[00:00:07] chasing each other during like that, in many places it's like that, we have a very big problem if
[00:00:10] we think that our kids and when I talk about our kids
[00:00:14] I'm talking about the youngest ones from absolutely all
[00:00:17] families, because
[00:00:20] mom and dad want to have a treat and that treat
[00:00:24] has to be a barbecue, then they can't eat all
[00:00:27] day, look how bad things are.
[00:00:30] If the treats end up being just some little meal that
[00:00:34] we make for the day, then the situation is really bad, dear,
[00:00:38] let's repeat the phone number and if there are any messages, we'll read them,
[00:00:41] exactly, well, let's repeat the phone number for everyone who is on the other side
[00:00:44] 116176 56 92 so you can
[00:00:48] send us your message if you also want to collaborate, if you want to help, we will be
[00:00:51] reading it live here, now
[00:00:53] pay to I also ask the following,
[00:00:55] um
[00:01:00] because there are... facts by the beyond what you said, that you couldn't leave your house and that you were in a very
[00:01:03] complex mental health situation,
[00:01:07] uh, if there is, even if it's just some treatment, if there's someone accompanying you without the
[00:01:11] need for you to go and be admitted, because obviously you have to
[00:01:14] decide between staying with your children and supporting this
[00:01:18] situation they are experiencing or going and being admitted and carrying
[00:01:22] out some kind of appropriate accompaniment, in the middle of
[00:01:26] that there is nothing,
[00:01:29] right? No, in the middle of that there is nothing,
[00:01:32] no, we have a very big mental health problem in
[00:01:35] Argentina, if they want to see it, let them
[00:01:38] see it, let them see it,
[00:01:40] long but first there is a tremendous disinvestment, tremendous, yes, but
[00:01:44] share, let's say, in tremendous, tremendous with the closing, in the same
[00:01:47] way, of mental health
[00:01:50] institutions and beyond all that
[00:01:54] also with the treatments that unfortunately do not reach people,
[00:01:58] well, in a few minutes we will show you. also how the Colombians threaten, there are videos that
[00:02:01] are accompanying the story, not of how they arrive on motorcycles, last week
[00:02:05] we showed you how they literally get off the motorcycle and
[00:02:09] go to a kiosk owner they had lent money to buy merchandise and they threaten them, they show an alarm
[00:02:13] uh uh we're going to kill everyone this
[00:02:16] if you leave we'll kill your children pay me pay me pay me, one
[00:02:20] falls into despair, every day they are going to threaten you, Gime, every
[00:02:24] day they go or how
[00:02:26] surely, what often look, they haven't appeared for two
[00:02:28] weeks, two weeks. But at any moment, uh-huh,
[00:02:32] yes, uh-huh, and
[00:02:35] right? Because everyone on I left you a question, how many times do they appear, because it's like they calm down for a
[00:02:38] week and yes, and then they start
[00:02:41] again, uh, how many neighbors are in a situation like yours,
[00:02:44] Gime,
[00:02:48] neighbors, the truth is I can't tell you because I don't have
[00:02:52] contact like that, I, uh, I spend my time locked in my house, I only go out
[00:02:55] to sell, sometimes to buy, but I
[00:02:59] do have acquaintances who were in the
[00:03:02] same situation, they were also on the verge of suicide. Robert, what do you want to say,
[00:03:06] go ahead. Yes, let's think that 20 million Argentinians are in debt and
[00:03:10] 30% of that, approximately 6 million are
[00:03:13] delinquent, that is, that's what is registered within the formal
[00:03:16] system, in the non-formal system this also expands,
[00:03:20] which means the situation is serious.
[00:03:23] Well, I'm going to tell you, I don't have a view from here, but I'm going
[00:03:28] out the update of what to ask Caro if they have the possibility to see the alias
[00:03:31] because I can't see it, both aliases are there
[00:03:35] at the same time, the idea is that people, we are not going to
[00:03:38] influence, decide if they want to help in some way,
[00:03:42] if they want, I always say the same thing, here we have to understand and
[00:03:46] interpret the following, we are a patch, we are not going to save
[00:03:49] anyone's life, this is a push, it's
[00:03:53] a little relief, it's a little breath of fresh air and then life
[00:03:56] continues, it's up to each person who receives this...
[00:04:00] type of help to transform it and try to get ahead, I don't know
[00:04:04] if Lu or Caro can give us a hand, go ahead, I'll tell you, to help
[00:04:07] Jimena, the alias is Gime with G and two
[00:04:10] E dot Santi
[00:04:12] 22, that's the alias to help Jimena, I repeat it's with
[00:04:16] the G, Gime with two E dot Santi
[00:04:19] 22 and to help Brian we have the alias it's
[00:04:23] Brian.592.Taiel
[00:04:28] A E L. Brian.
[00:04:31] 592.
[00:04:33] Taiel. Well, back with you, Rodo. Great
[00:04:37] job, Rodo, knower like few, of what the Buenos Aires conurbano is and the
[00:04:40] needs of the people. Battling the mud as always, as a chronicler. What
[00:04:44] feeling do you have, Rodo? Because behind is Jimena's mother,
[00:04:48] right? Who nods regarding her daughter's answer.
[00:04:52] I'm listening, Rodo, go ahead.
[00:04:55] No, you know what I want to show, that there are also minors involved here. You
[00:04:59] realize the cleanliness of this patio,
[00:05:02] right? There are uh children's
[00:05:05] bicycles, toys, but look at the
[00:05:09] cleanliness, no, because poverty.
[00:05:13] The lack of something material also makes you dignified,
[00:05:16] this sweeping, having everything in order,
[00:05:19] here Jimena and Graciela, the mother, are
[00:05:23] also single women, that
[00:05:26] is not a minor detail and single women are not only
[00:05:30] suffering now from this
[00:05:33] debt they are having, but nevertheless, here in this house nothing is missing,
[00:05:37] love is not missing, but money is missing, realize that
[00:05:41] Graciela and Jimena here. are both in charge
[00:05:44] alone, that on the one hand, I also want to show you, do you have that
[00:05:48] little ticket, the little package, look
[00:05:51] how one has to show, right?
[00:05:54] This is like a proof of payment,
[00:05:57] yes, yes, that's like a proof of
[00:06:00] daily payment of what she has to
[00:06:06] the Colombian, yes, and
[00:06:09] he writes with his handwriting and calligraphy.
[00:06:12] amount and the day of what Jimena
[00:06:16] can pay, realize this right, how the
[00:06:19] credit is alternative, if the credit is so alternative, this is
[00:06:23] the receipt, nothing more than this, yes, Tomás, uh, Rodo, can
[00:06:27] we do a refresh, I don't know how many if Jimena had anything in her
[00:06:30] account, we said she didn't have anything, now we're going to go with Brian of
[00:06:34] course, but we can do a refresh, maybe someone can
[00:06:38] give her a hand in these minutes that we have left in contact, Rodo, no, he's checking.
[00:06:41] messages, look, I have several messages here that
[00:06:44] maybe Jimena already said, but they ask us about the children's father
[00:06:48] who want to know where he is, not because logically she is
[00:06:51] alone with her mother, they want to know where the children's father is, where the children's
[00:06:54] father is, many people
[00:06:56] asking us,
[00:07:00] uh no, uh my children are from different fathers but none
[00:07:02] help, yes, we have contacts
[00:07:06] everything, but they are not helping uh and
[00:07:10] the two oldest ones even less uh each one has their own family and
[00:07:14] it's like I could always do it alone, so
[00:07:17] it's like they say you could always do it alone
[00:07:21] you will always be able to uh and one of them told me once
[00:07:24] so that's why I preferred not to ask them for help at
[00:07:28] all, where is 70% of the fathers in Argentina,
[00:07:31] guys, uh I mean because
[00:07:35] seven out of 10 fathers do not collaborate, do not help, do not accompany
[00:07:38] the upbringing of their children, right? And Jimena's comment, which I understand.
[00:07:42] does what she can, but clarifies that these men already have their
[00:07:46] families, it would allow
[00:07:50] us, exactly, part of their family are also their children for whom they are not responsible and whom
[00:07:54] Jimena supports alone, but this reality that Jimena and
[00:07:57] Brian are depicting has to do with the two most important problems in our
[00:08:01] country, today referring to mental health day
[00:08:04] precisely, in many cases the highest levels of
[00:08:07] suicide among young people have to do with not finding a way out,
[00:08:11] we are facing... two problems, on the one hand
[00:08:14] economic, the crisis there is with the highest delinquency levels in
[00:08:17] 20 years and in the same situation is the suicide rate which
[00:08:20] is the main cause of violent death in Argentina, we cannot
[00:08:24] overlook that they are directly related,
[00:08:28] it also attacks in both cases the youngest people in our country who should
[00:08:32] be the engine for tomorrow from 15 to 35
[00:08:35] years old, Rodo, we are with you again if there is any possibility of carrying
[00:08:41] the alias is. Go ahead so
[00:08:44] we can also talk with Brian for a minute,
[00:08:47] we have a problem because Jimena's phone is
[00:08:51] like the weather today, sometimes the sun comes out, sometimes
[00:08:54] the clouds come out, sometimes it rains, sometimes it stops, so he's
[00:08:58] trying, no problem, no problem, Rodo, things happen, the
[00:09:02] alias is air, this another mobile is calling us to
[00:09:05] be able to continue with real-time information on Saturday, uh, but
[00:09:09] the alias is air and then in a minute we are going to... continue with
[00:09:12] Brian trying to help this guy who came to the channel's door,
[00:09:16] Rodo, as always, good job, big hug,
[00:09:19] hug
[00:09:21] last
[00:09:26] minute
[00:09:27] news
[00:09:34] robot
[00:09:38] video and escape.
[00:09:43] they stole a truck and recorded themselves
[00:09:46] escaping,
[00:09:49] the video was key to
[00:09:50] arresting them,
[00:09:54] the criminals are
[00:09:55] minors,
[00:10:00] well, thieves and stupid at the same time, right? Because they steal on
[00:10:04] the path of evil, these kids, adolescents of this new era and
[00:10:07] then they record themselves and also, dear Jorge, they
[00:10:10] end up uploading it to their social networks. This helped the police to reach
[00:10:14] them, exactly, Mar del Plata in the last
[00:10:18] hours, we're talking about at least four minors, four minors of whom
[00:10:21] two are detained, they carried out a robbery in which with a. uh
[00:10:25] they stole a Ford Territory, a high-end truck, which
[00:10:29] well, they recorded themselves
[00:10:32] the escape from this robbery, it should be remembered that the police personnel of the Buenos
[00:10:35] Aires provincial police carried out three raids with two
[00:10:38] arrests, seized items, we're talking about firearms,
[00:10:42] electronic devices, cell phones in which
[00:10:45] there would be conversations between the minors, we are talking about complicity
[00:10:48] and organization, premeditation,
[00:10:52] this happened in the northern area of Mar del Plata in the last few hours.
[00:10:55] There are two minors detained and two minors at large who are being sought
[00:10:59] because they know they are part of this criminal organization that has
[00:11:03] this coastal city
[00:11:06] on edge. You're talking about a criminal organization
[00:11:09] and you're talking about at least four minors, we'll add Pablo Gómez, of
[00:11:13] course, meaning that these kids, these delinquent
[00:11:16] teenagers are in some way one of the many
[00:11:20] gangs that attack the citizens of the happy city, exactly, exactly,
[00:11:25] modus operandi, by the description given by the
[00:11:29] victims, the affected parties, that fits with the description of these
[00:11:32] minors, at least of the two who are detained, there are two who are at large who
[00:11:36] are also part of this gang, of this organization, which I repeat,
[00:11:39] three raids, two detained, seized items, incriminating
[00:11:43] items, electronic devices, security
[00:11:46] cameras, for the moment they have not taken a statement, are they close to detaining
[00:11:50] those who are missing? They say yes, the police authorities say they would already
[00:11:53] be identified and would be in the next immediate future to be detained, it should
[00:11:57] be remembered that there is a significant number of videos from
[00:12:00] municipal devices that have them filmed
[00:12:04] and identified that are also being investigated by
[00:12:07] the justice system of this municipality two detained, two at large,
[00:12:11] they would have at least in the last week several armed robberies
[00:12:15] and a robbery which is that of the truck in which well they were
[00:12:18] filmed, they filmed themselves and were incriminated, media level in
[00:12:22] social networks, well, explain to me, Pablo, uh, what is the
[00:12:26] logic of these young criminals of stealing a
[00:12:29] truck, of stealing a car, of stealing a motorcycle and
[00:12:32] then uploading it to social networks, right? Is there so much impunity in young
[00:12:36] people, in adolescents today, well, I understand that it has been a
[00:12:39] recurring theme for several years,
[00:12:42] but I want to remind you that starting in September we have what is
[00:12:46] called the law of criminal responsibility
[00:12:49] for minors up to... it matters a lot, I tell you, no, well,
[00:12:53] but for the two who are detained, I'll be
[00:12:56] honest with you, thanks to this new law they will not be on the streets, they will be
[00:13:00] detained and that is what is important to emphasize, you know
[00:13:04] how long they will be detained, they will be no, but they will be detained, they will
[00:13:07] be detained until they have to think about where they have to
[00:13:11] take them, when they realize that there is no penitentiary unit for
[00:13:15] minors they will go home and they will say, take ma'am, I think
[00:13:18] this is yours, I'm going to tell you something, at least they won't take it to my house or your house, so
[00:13:22] but that will be a place of attention where it has to
[00:13:43] steal from people, in the cold of the dungeon is the best place for
[00:13:46] these criminals, Luis, we are conditioning penitentiary
[00:13:50] units, yes, we have them in Argentina, I ask
[00:13:54] now if. we don't have them complete, we don't have
[00:13:57] them completed, work is being done, work is being done in
[00:14:01] several places to re-accommodate detention institutes that were previously
[00:14:04] very lenient institutes in terms of security, with greater
[00:14:07] security so as not to mix minors as the law says, with adults,
[00:14:11] what we see here is the banalization of evil
[00:14:14] by minors, they take this as a certain normality and almost as a
[00:14:18] game, this is the serious thing that also goes hand
[00:14:21] in hand, I have a contradiction here. You know why, they take it as
[00:14:25] a game, I believe they are 14-year-old kids who, by not
[00:14:29] playing, as any other child with a
[00:14:32] supportive family structure plays, play with these things, their
[00:14:35] game, they are playing, for me it is a way to
[00:14:39] play in what is happening today,
[00:14:42] this showing themselves in the images, if you add to that that
[00:14:45] they sniffed a little or drank something stronger, I
[00:14:49] don't want to, I don't want to contradict you, it's not
[00:14:53] a game, these... kids don't play, these kids
[00:14:57] don't care about other people's lives, these kids who film themselves, who have
[00:15:01] the impunity to steal, to point, to threaten, to take
[00:15:05] a truck, the product of the effort of a guy, of a person who worked all his
[00:15:08] life, if they have to kill you, they'll kill you, it's not a
[00:15:12] game, we agree with I agree with what he says, but
[00:15:15] I want to highlight this, until before,
[00:15:18] before September 5th this video was a game as Bicat
[00:15:22] says and as he says, from the 5th it's a piece of evidence. It's evidence,
[00:15:25] unfortunately that's how it is, it's a piece of evidence, whether you like it or
[00:15:28] not, judicially, criminally or in this
[00:15:32] case legally today that video that was a
[00:15:36] game today is a means of.
[00:19:18] More complaints about photos with
[00:19:21] AI,
[00:19:25] students sell them on
[00:19:27] social media,
[00:19:33] new complaints are added against students from other schools.
[00:19:44] What we are seeing is the Lomas de Zamora model
[00:19:47] school, it is a sit-in, a multitudinous protest
[00:19:51] they have carried out, the issue
[00:19:54] is the following, they used real photographs
[00:19:57] with AI, they modified them and
[00:20:01] not only sold them to other schools, girls
[00:20:04] between 14 and 16 years old, but
[00:20:07] also uploaded them to some pages that we can call triple
[00:20:11] X if you want to be able to mention them in some
[00:20:14] way, as if all this wasn't enough, there's a
[00:20:17] system, Jorgito, uh, help me with this, because the truth
[00:20:21] is I don't know much, there's a system in the Telegram
[00:20:25] application where in different groups one
[00:20:28] can carry out sales actions that are not always
[00:20:32] legal and that are not so
[00:20:35] controlled, the minors themselves told the
[00:20:38] following, look at how macabre the
[00:20:42] action carried out by these minors
[00:20:44] who took photographs of the
[00:20:47] girls.
[00:20:50] the real phone number of the
[00:20:52] minors
[00:20:54] and sold them as if they were sex
[00:20:57] workers, telling everyone in that
[00:21:00] group that they could contact these girls
[00:21:04] to ask for money, they ended up finding out this way, they started
[00:21:07] receiving hundreds, hundreds, thousands of
[00:21:11] messages telling them that they wanted
[00:21:14] to sexually hire girls between 14 and
[00:21:17] 16 years old, you know who?
[00:21:21] Their friends, their own classmates, the kids they were sitting
[00:21:25] with two desks, three desks ahead, three desks behind
[00:21:28] and you will say, there was a tremendous
[00:21:31] penalty, the kids were
[00:21:33] separated, no, the school had this
[00:21:37] information for a month, for a month the school let the
[00:21:40] photographs circulate, for a month the school told them absolutely
[00:21:44] nothing, mothers and fathers of the victims
[00:21:47] and they ended up finding out. from the minors themselves,
[00:21:50] exactly, exactly what you say, this
[00:21:54] introduction is valid besides it must be remembered that a second
[00:21:58] school is also added, which is the Tomás Edison school in
[00:22:01] Ituzaingó, which has several minors who were also
[00:22:04] subjected to this same trick, it seems that it would be a single gang
[00:22:08] that divided the work, so to speak, because they worked in the same
[00:22:12] way, the modus operandi was exactly the same, they took the
[00:22:15] real photos, worked on them with artificial intelligence and made
[00:22:19] well a... fraud regarding the images, they published them on different
[00:22:22] platforms, published the mobile phone numbers of each of these
[00:22:26] creatures, even put real names and surnames, yes, not only that, the
[00:22:30] absolute madness, look, at Thomas Edison
[00:22:34] in Ituzaingó there is a child who is 7 years old
[00:22:37] whose image was used on platforms
[00:22:40] with nudity and sexual activity to promote and sell
[00:22:44] that image and consequently the phone number of that child who
[00:22:47] would have a phone number, would have a number. phone, I don't know how
[00:22:50] they accessed it, the situation is that the schools, both Loma de Zamora and
[00:22:54] Ituzaingó, kept this situation confidential for a
[00:22:58] time, Lomas for a month and Ituzaingó for about 10
[00:23:01] days, but what happened during that time these minors,
[00:23:05] these minors were somehow
[00:23:08] bothered in a very contacted way, identified
[00:23:12] with the images and now I also want to
[00:23:15] clarify this and add this, dear Jorgito, there is a
[00:23:19] fear. the adolescent minors themselves,
[00:23:22] I, the first thing that has to happen is
[00:23:26] for authorities to understand that this is not a
[00:23:29] game, they are not playing, this is
[00:23:32] pedophilia, they are pedophiles,
[00:23:36] there is commercialization, they sell the images, guys,
[00:23:40] what is happening is tremendous, this was organized,
[00:23:43] premeditated and was planned, here it meets all the
[00:23:46] requirements to say that this is a criminal organization of minors. minors,
[00:23:50] but look, this also starts by
[00:23:53] becoming public within the educational sphere of that school
[00:23:57] in Lomas de Zamora as a result of one of these
[00:24:00] minors who was part of this gang, uh, feeling
[00:24:03] remorse because he was not a participant in the profits that the
[00:24:07] group was making, we are talking about a minor who was not
[00:24:10] receiving part of that loot that
[00:24:14] was collecting a significant amount of money and that made him
[00:24:18] reveal this,
[00:24:20] as a result of that a second school emerges, the school in Ituzaingó
[00:24:24] Tomás Edison, today I am talking with police authorities and there is absolute
[00:24:27] secrecy of the summary and it is being strongly discussed that there would be at least
[00:24:31] two more schools that in the next hours this situation they are experiencing will also
[00:24:35] come to light, I would love to know what I am going to
[00:24:38] say is not right, but the
[00:24:41] girls' photographs were circulated on triple X
[00:24:44] pages, why don't we know the faces of the criminals who led to...
[00:24:48] delincuentes que llevaron a...
[00:24:54] the modification, the girls are also minors, they are all minors and they identified them by name and surname and
[00:24:57] uploaded them to triple X pages and put them in
[00:25:00] different telegram groups with their
[00:25:04] real phone number, yes, but again, these minors and that's
[00:25:07] why we were just talking about the lowering of imputability are
[00:25:10] punishable, that's why two minors aged 15
[00:25:13] are already accused, at that point, you know that we have a
[00:25:17] regulation and article 128 specifies
[00:25:20] several actions, what you said,
[00:25:24] to produce is one, to finance, to offer, to
[00:25:27] trade, to publish, to facilitate, they
[00:25:31] all have, article 128 of the penal code speaks
[00:25:34] of that facilitation,
[00:25:37] of exposing an implicit image because
[00:25:40] it is penalized on social networks, to in turn
[00:25:44] ask for a profit, for which, beyond this
[00:25:47] article that the fiscal unit number six of the
[00:25:50] juvenile federal regime of Loma de Zamora has indicted
[00:25:53] at least two, but two are over
[00:25:57] 14 has them
[00:26:00] indicted eh. The
[00:26:03] aggravation now that there would be another school, today we are
[00:26:07] facing another, another issue that would be an illicit
[00:26:10] association, especially it is who manufactured, how they
[00:26:13] distributed it, who was the one who organized the head
[00:26:17] of this organization, and today, as Ailin said, they are
[00:26:21] all criminally responsible, mostly,
[00:26:24] at least the two oldest, so I will be
[00:26:27] calm knowing that justice has already indicted them. I ask, were they
[00:26:31] pages? Were they linked to pornography
[00:26:35] or were they groups from social
[00:26:38] networks WhatsApp groups that would have started on
[00:26:42] social networks, this includes WhatsApp, Telegram,
[00:26:44] Instagram and well, Facebook also, and
[00:26:48] later, when they realized, apparently, according to what the students
[00:26:52] and classmates say, is that they could earn more and more
[00:26:55] money, they started publishing them on deep web pages,
[00:26:59] let's say XXX, so that. They went through all the
[00:27:03] paths, making the girls appear as adults, not as
[00:27:06] minors, they sold them with the information, if you will,
[00:27:09] real regarding these girls, their real names, their real
[00:27:13] ages, but with fake photos generated by AI,
[00:27:16] now they were selling that the girls were of real age, that they were minors,
[00:27:20] what is the responsibility of these portals, these
[00:27:24] pages? Luis, we also have to analyze this, we have to
[00:27:27] pursue, well, this reminded me, do you
[00:27:30] remember the case of Pepita la Pistolera? Yes, of course, there is now an
[00:27:34] emblematic movie, he confesses the crime of Banco Río
[00:27:38] and out of spite, in this case, one of the members of the
[00:27:42] gang or the illicit association, out of spite and for not collecting his
[00:27:47] the criminal maneuver, he incriminates himself
[00:27:50] and incriminates all the rest, there is no repentance, so it is
[00:27:53] a decision of that kid because he had not collected the
[00:27:57] month's quota, he says it, they did not give me what was mine,
[00:28:01] evidently, this is one and the other is that you remember
[00:28:04] the wave eh false bomb threats
[00:28:08] in schools, this is starting to have, this has the same
[00:28:12] system, copying the mechanics of the wave, the mechanics of the
[00:28:15] replication, surely it is not an illicit association, a
[00:28:19] superband, but more replicas will emerge
[00:28:23] because the technique to do it is very similar, more schools
[00:28:28] you mean is that this, this, which is a nightmare for the...
[00:28:32] girls and for their families, but fundamentally for the girls,
[00:28:37] their phones, on social media,
[00:28:41] saw the faces in fake photos, but that remains
[00:28:44] installed, that remains installed, I
[00:28:48] want to say that there may be more groups of kids in different
[00:28:51] high schools doing that, remember that you will find out about more
[00:28:55] cases, surely, surely there will be more, and at least give
[00:28:59] information regarding what your your your desire
[00:29:02] to know is. These web pages, the law
[00:29:05] contemplates the one who publishes on the page or the one who
[00:29:08] commercializes, and at that point there will be, there are
[00:29:11] several actors here, the one who created it, manufactured it, are the
[00:29:15] minors, the one who put it on the web are the minors, but the
[00:29:18] web has a responsibility, those
[00:29:21] web pages have a responsibility and they must be pursued, and
[00:29:25] this is not just pursued by the Argentine
[00:29:28] state, this is pursued internationally,
[00:29:31] eh, but you know what the issue is, here perhaps
[00:29:35] there is also a break, people think that when
[00:29:38] talking about the dark web, they are
[00:29:41] talking about what one finds when one
[00:29:44] enters pages and they give a certain result, it's not
[00:29:48] those, they are the websites that are
[00:29:51] illegal, to which only people who operate
[00:29:55] in that underworld of the web can access, that's the
[00:29:58] differentiator.
[00:30:14] That's why the famous online, for example, or other portals, but these, since they are web, the web or the dark
[00:30:18] web, require a different search engine, oh wait, wait,
[00:30:22] because it's even more serious, you have to have a different starter key,
[00:30:25] have a different car
[00:30:27] engine, the search engine, and worse, and it's more
[00:30:31] complex.