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[00:00:00] he worked for 12 years and they fired him while he was off the books, that's what
[00:00:04] can't keep happening, it can't keep happening that if you don't
[00:00:07] pay something you can go to jail, but if you don't pay employer contributions nothing
[00:00:11] happens, then when they come and we question only the poor,
[00:00:15] that's what happens to us, we question the poor and I'm sure that on the
[00:00:19] other side there will be a lot of people who also tell us and
[00:00:22] but if he went to buy a barbecue, guys, at some point
[00:00:26] one has to be able to treat themselves, we're not talking about going to Miami.
[00:00:30] to Disney, we're talking about a piece of meat
[00:00:34] to eat and enjoy with the family, that's not a treat, it's not a luxury,
[00:00:37] guys, Argentina is in a very bad state if we believe that
[00:00:41] a small piece of grilled meat is a luxury, the minimum
[00:00:45] wage went from buying 43 kg of grilled meat to buying
[00:00:48] only 20 kg of grilled meat,
[00:00:59] gangs that assault citizens of wondering, Dani, was
[00:01:02] calligraphy, the how the alternative loan
[00:01:04] modality is, beyond virtual or
[00:01:08] banked wallets, Jimena has to pay a daily amount of
[00:01:12] 18, and if she doesn't
[00:01:14] collect that money in the day, they add an
[00:01:18] interest of 500 pesos per day, so realize
[00:01:22] that she has to generate 23, pesos per
[00:01:25] day to pay for one day of debt, yes, that
[00:01:29] multiplied by... 30, which is the whole
[00:01:31] month, from not having income because the
[00:01:35] job she had, the store didn't sell, she started
[00:01:39] selling her things and from that
[00:01:41] delinquency, someone else comes
[00:01:45] being investigated by the to offer you money without taking into account
[00:01:49] Jimena's delinquency, they also give her the money and the vicious cycle
[00:01:52] begins, you have to pay that amount daily,
[00:01:55] Jimena, uh, yes, there are some that are
[00:01:59] 18, there are some that are 2,000 and not
[00:02:02] all of them charge the same surcharge because some charge you 700 or
[00:02:06] 10,000 per day, so if the installment is 20 and you were one day late,
[00:02:10] by the next day you have to have the previous day's installment plus the next one,
[00:02:14] which is 40 plus the surcharge
[00:02:17] they charge, which is 10,000 pesos more, so if you didn't have 20 today,
[00:02:20] tomorrow you have to have it, Dani and
[00:02:23] Ana, because Jimena told me that the logic is that many times we fell
[00:02:27] or we fall, she takes a second
[00:02:30] loan to be able to
[00:02:32] comment, which I understand, poor thing, she does cover the first, the desperation and she couldn't, a little
[00:02:36] like that, the desperation,
[00:02:39] yes, because you want to comply, both with those
[00:02:43] who lend you because I always said they are doing me a favor and when I
[00:02:46] needed it, they gave me a hand, so I need to pay them back,
[00:02:50] but well, uh, it's by thinking, I think, also a little
[00:02:53] like that, uh, that I went crazy and well, I had the first
[00:02:57] suicide attempt because there was
[00:03:00] no way uh, I had bought things to sell
[00:03:04] and I didn't sell anything,
[00:03:05] so
[00:03:08] or what else do you know how to do, what do you have to
[00:03:10] sell,
[00:03:13] I now have what are floor rags,
[00:03:15] deodorant,
[00:03:18] cutlery, right, a little bit of everything, so to speak, and
[00:03:22] then clothes, used clothes that I also have that
[00:03:25] I got from the store, I have a lot left and you say that nothing sells, you
[00:03:29] go out. you go to a
[00:03:31] forward. feeling of what fair and people don't buy, they don't even spend on a floor
[00:03:34] rag,
[00:03:36] no, uh, no, the other day I went, I went for a while with
[00:03:40] my daughter, which was nice, I went to
[00:03:43] sell, I had only sold 1,500 pesos, 1,500,
[00:03:47] how many hours were you there to sell 1,500 pesos, I didn't even pay for the
[00:03:50] bus, three hours, three hours, 1,500 pesos, you don't even pay for a
[00:03:54] bus, uh, I see behind you a pot there,
[00:03:58] did you cook today in the pot behind you?
[00:04:00] continues, it is up to In the context of what is, no, no, no, that's the food that was
[00:04:03] prepared for the dog, oh, it's the dog's food, because I was going to ask you if you ate today at
[00:04:07] noon,
[00:04:10] no, you didn't
[00:04:11] eat, no, no, no, and the
[00:04:15] kids,
[00:04:18] uh, no, not either, because well, they on weekends
[00:04:22] uh, we stay up late, always watching videos and
[00:04:25] uh, well, they wake up late, so if they wake up now, they'll have some
[00:04:29] tea and then cook dinner. I'm going to translate and
[00:04:33] I may be wrong,
[00:04:35] staying up late watching videos is not being lazy, it's not
[00:04:39] being lazy, but it's a
[00:04:42] mechanism to trick the kids into going to sleep
[00:04:46] late, waking up late and not
[00:04:49] remembering that they have to eat at noon because there's nothing to eat, I'm telling those
[00:04:53] who are on the other side, it's a mechanism that people who don't have a
[00:04:56] dime use because the kids wake up late today, Saturday, and
[00:05:00] then they have mate cocido with some leftovers, bread
[00:05:03] perhaps, so they end up saving on lunch, that's right,
[00:05:06] no, but that's the reality for many people, it's not
[00:05:10] laziness, but necessity and you have to... hurt your stomach, do you understand what I'm
[00:05:14] saying, is it correct, Gime, what I'm saying
[00:05:18] no? Yes, it's like that, it's like
[00:05:22] that, in many places it's like that, we have a very big problem if
[00:05:25] we think that our kids and when I talk about our kids, I'm talking
[00:05:29] about the youngest of absolutely all
[00:05:31] families, because
[00:05:35] mom and dad want to have a treat and a treat
[00:05:38] has to be a barbecue, then they can't eat for... the whole
[00:05:42] day, look how bad things are, that if the treats
[00:05:46] end up being only some food we make for the
[00:05:49] day, really the situation is very bad, Caro, we repeat
[00:05:53] the phone number and if there's any message, we'll read it, exactly, well, we repeat
[00:05:57] the phone number for everyone on the other side, 11 61 76
[00:06:00] 56 92 so you can send us your message, if you also
[00:06:04] want to collaborate, if you want to help, we'll be reading it live here, now I also
[00:06:08] ask the following, uh?
[00:06:14] Beyond what you said that you couldn't leave your house and that you were in a
[00:06:18] very complex mental
[00:06:20] health situation, uh, if there is at least some treatment, if there is someone who is
[00:06:24] accompanying you without the need for you to go and get admitted
[00:06:28] because obviously you have to decide between staying with your children
[00:06:31] and accompanying this situation they are experiencing or going and
[00:06:35] getting admitted and carrying out some type of corresponding
[00:06:39] accompaniment, there is nothing in the middle of that.
[00:06:45] No, in the middle of that there is nothing, no, we have a very
[00:06:49] big mental health problem in Argentina, if they want to see it, let
[00:06:52] them see it, let them see it, but first there is a
[00:06:56] tremendous, tremendous disinvestment, yes, but tremendous,
[00:06:59] tremendous, with the closure, in the same
[00:07:02] way, of mental health
[00:07:05] institutions and beyond all that
[00:07:09] also with the treatments that unfortunately do not reach... the people,
[00:07:13] well, in a few minutes we will also show you how the Colombians threaten, there are videos
[00:07:16] that are accompanying the story, not of how they arrive on motorcycles, uh, this
[00:07:20] week we showed you how they literally get off the motorcycle and
[00:07:24] go to a kiosk owner they had lent money to buy merchandise and they threaten them, they show alarm
[00:07:28] uh, uh, we are going to kill everyone, uh, if
[00:07:31] you go out, we kill your children, pay me, pay me, pay me and some
[00:07:34] enter into desperation, every day they are going to threaten you, Gime, every
[00:07:38] day they go or how often?
[00:07:42] Look, they haven't appeared for two weeks, two weeks, but at
[00:07:45] any moment, uh-huh, yes, uh-huh, and
[00:07:49] I left you a question, how many appear because it's like they calm down for a
[00:07:52] week and yes, and then they start
[00:07:56] again, uh, how many neighbors are in a situation like yours,
[00:07:59] Gime,
[00:08:03] neighbors, the truth is I can't tell you because I don't have
[00:08:06] contact like that, I, uh, I spend my time locked in my house, I only
[00:08:10] go out to sell, sometimes to buy, but
[00:08:14] I do have acquaintances who were in the
[00:08:17] same situation, they were also on the verge of suicide. Robert, what do you want to say?
[00:08:20] Go ahead. Yes, let's think that 20 million Argentines are in debt
[00:08:24] and 30% of that, approximately 6 million are
[00:08:28] delinquent. That is what is registered within the formal
[00:08:31] system. In the informal system, this also expands, so
[00:08:35] the situation is serious.
[00:08:38] Well, I'm going to tell you, I don't have a view from here, but I'm going to...
[00:08:42] tell Caro and Ilu if they can see the alias
[00:08:46] because I can't see it, both aliases are there at
[00:08:49] the same time, the idea is that people, we are not going to
[00:08:53] influence, decide if they want to lend a hand in some way,
[00:08:57] if they want to, I always say the same thing, here we have to understand and
[00:09:00] interpret the following: we are a patch, we are not going to save
[00:09:04] anyone's life, this is a push, it is
[00:09:07] a bit of relief, it is a bit of air and then life
[00:10:12] minors involved here, you realize the neatness of this
[00:10:16] patio, right,
[00:10:19] there are children's bicycles,
[00:10:21] toys, but look at the cleanliness. It's not
[00:10:25] because poverty, the lack
[00:10:29] of something material, also makes you dignified, this sweeping,
[00:10:32] having everything in order, here precisely
[00:10:35] Jimena and Graciela, the mother, are also single
[00:10:39] women, that's not a minor detail and
[00:10:42] single women are not only suffering now from this
[00:10:46] debt they are having, but
[00:10:50] however, nothing is missing in this house, love is not missing, but
[00:10:53] money is missing, of course. You realize that Graciela and Jimena here
[00:10:57] are both alone at the front, that's one thing,
[00:11:01] I also want to show you, Jimena, do you have that little ticket, the
[00:11:04] little package, look how one has to
[00:11:06] show, right, this is like a
[00:11:10] proof of payment, yes, yes, this is like a
[00:11:14] proof of daily
[00:11:16] payment, right, of what she has to pay, a receipt
[00:11:20] for the installments with the Colombian, yes, and
[00:11:24] she writes it down, with her handwriting and
[00:11:27] amount and the day of what Jimena
[00:11:30] can pay, realize this, right, how alternative
[00:11:34] the credit is, if the credit is so alternative, this is the
[00:11:38] proof, nothing more than this,
[00:11:41] Rodo, can we do a refresh? I don't know how many, if she had
[00:11:44] something in Jimena's account, we say she had nothing, now
[00:11:48] we're going to go with Brian, of course, but, but
[00:11:51] we can do a refresh, maybe people can give a hand in these minutes we have left in contact.
[00:12:15] uh, no, uh, my children are from different fathers, but none
[00:12:18] help, yes, we have contacts and everything, but they
[00:12:22] are not helping, uh, and
[00:12:25] even less the two oldest, each one has their family and
[00:12:29] it's like they say, I always managed alone, so
[00:12:33] it's like they say, you always managed alone, you'll always be
[00:12:36] able to, and one of them told me that once, so
[00:12:39] I preferred not to ask them for any
[00:12:42] help, it's where the 70% of fathers in Argentina are,
[00:12:46] guys, I say because
[00:12:50] seven out of 10 fathers do not collaborate, do not help, do not accompany
[00:12:53] the upbringing of their children. And Jimena's
[00:12:57] what she can, but she clarifies that these men already have their
[00:13:01] families,
[00:13:05] exactly, part of their family are also their children for whom they do not take
[00:13:08] responsibility and who Jimena maintains alone, but this reality that Jimena
[00:13:11] and Brian are depicting has to do with the two most important problems in
[00:13:15] our country, today, referring to Mental Health Day,
[00:13:19] precisely, in many cases, the highest levels of
[00:13:22] suicide among young people have to do with... that they don't find a way out,
[00:13:26] we are facing two problems, on the one hand, economic, the crisis
[00:13:30] there is with the highest delinquency levels in 20 years and in the same
[00:13:34] situation is the suicide rate which is the main cause of violent
[00:13:38] death in Argentina, I cannot ignore that they are
[00:13:41] directly related, it also attacks both cases of
[00:13:45] the youngest people in our country who should be the driving force for tomorrow,
[00:13:48] from 15 to 35
[00:14:58] they stole a van and recorded themselves
[00:15:00] escaping,
[00:15:04] the video was key to
[00:15:05] arresting them,
[00:15:08] the criminals are
[00:15:10] minors,
[00:15:15] well, thieves and stupid at the same time, not because they steal on
[00:15:19] the wrong path, these adolescent kids and then
[00:15:22] they record themselves and also, dear Jorge.
[00:15:47] the escape from this robbery, it is important to remember that the police personnel of the Buenos Aires police carried
[00:15:50] out three raids with two
[00:15:53] arrests, seized items that we are talking about firearms,
[00:15:56] electronic devices, cell phones in which there would be
[00:16:00] conversations between the minors, we are talking about complicity
[00:16:03] and an organization, a premeditation
[00:16:06] of this. This occurred in the northern area of Mar del Plata in the last
[00:16:10] hours, there are two minors detained and there are two minors at large who are being
[00:16:14] searched for because they know they are part of this criminal organization that has
[00:16:18] this seaside city
[00:16:20] on edge.
[00:16:23] talking about a criminal organization and you're talking about at least four minors,
[00:16:26] we'll add Pablo Gómez, of course, meaning that these
[00:16:29] kids, these delinquent teenagers
[00:16:32] are somehow one of the many
[00:16:36] Mar del Plata. Exactly, exactly, because there are several incidents
[00:16:40] due to the modus operandi, due to the description given by the victims,
[00:16:44] the aggrieved parties that fit the description of these
[00:16:47] minors, at least of the two who are detained, there are two who are at large who
[00:16:51] are also part of this gang, this organization, which I repeat,
[00:16:54] three raids, two detained, seized items, incriminating
[00:16:57] items, electronic devices, security
[00:17:01] cameras, for the moment they have not taken their preliminary statement, are they close to arresting
[00:17:04] those who are missing? They say yes, the police authorities say yes. that they would already
[00:17:08] be identified and would be arrested in the immediate future, it must be
[00:17:11] remembered that there is a significant number of videos from
[00:17:15] municipal devices that have them filmed
[00:17:19] and identified, which are also
[00:17:23] justice system of this municipality, two detained, two at large, they
[00:17:26] would have at least in the last week several armed robberies
[00:17:30] and a robbery, which is the van robbery, in which they were filmed, they filmed themselves and
[00:17:33] were incriminated at a media level on social networks, well, explain
[00:17:37] to me, Pablo, uh, what is the
[00:17:40] logic of these young thieves to steal a
[00:17:44] van, to steal a car, to steal a motorcycle and
[00:17:47] then upload it to social media, isn't there so much impunity among
[00:17:51] kids, among teenagers today? Well, I understand that it's a theme that has
[00:17:55] been recurring for several years, but I want to remind
[00:17:59] you that as of September we have what is called the criminal
[00:18:02] responsibility law for minors, up to it matters a
[00:18:06] lot, I tell you. No, but, but for the two who are
[00:18:09] detained, I'll be honest with you, thanks to this new law
[00:18:13] they won't be on the street, they'll be detained, and that's what's
[00:18:17] important to highlight, you know until when they'll be
[00:18:20] detained, Pablo? No, no, but they'll be detained, they'll be detained until
[00:18:23] they have to think about where they have to take them, when
[00:18:27] they realize that there isn't a penitentiary unit for minors, they'll
[00:18:31] go home, they'll be told, "Here, ma'am, I think this is yours," I'm going
[00:18:34] to tell you something, at least they won't take him to my house or your house. So, but that will be
[00:18:38] the place of detention where he has to be, the place of detention where he has to be as
[00:18:42] a person, as a person responsible for a crime, thank
[00:18:46] God, let them be behind bars, but
[00:18:49] there are already, behind bars, in the cold of
[00:18:52] the dungeon they have to be, in the cold of the dungeon they have to be, they don't have to be in
[00:18:56] the place where we are robbing people, in the cold of
[00:18:59] the dungeon is the best place for these criminals, Luis, we are
[00:19:03] conditioning penitentiary units, yes.
[00:19:07] Do we have them in Argentina? I ask now without sarcasm, we
[00:19:11] don't have them complete, we don't have them completed, work
[00:19:14] is being done, work is being done in several places to re-adapt
[00:19:18] detention institutes, which before
[00:19:20] were very lenient institutes in terms of security, with greater
[00:19:24] security so as not to mix minors, as the law says, with adults,
[00:19:27] what we see here is the banalization of evil by
[00:19:31] minors, no, they take this with a certain normality and almost as a
[00:19:34] game, this is the serious thing that also goes hand in hand,
[00:19:38] I have a contradiction here, Luis, why, they take it as a
[00:19:42] game, I think they are 14-year-old kids who, by not
[00:19:45] playing, as any other kid who has
[00:19:49] a supportive family structure plays, they play with these things, it's their
[00:19:52] game, they are playing, for me it's a way of
[00:19:56] playing in what is experienced today,
[00:19:59] this showing themselves in the images, if you add to that that
[00:20:02] they sniffed a little or took something stronger, I
[00:20:06] don't want to, I don't want to contradict you, it's not a game, these kids
[00:20:10] don't play, these kids don't care about other people's lives,
[00:20:13] these kids who film themselves, who have
[00:20:17] point, to threaten, to take a van product of the effort of a
[00:20:21] guy, of a person who worked all his life, if they have to kill before
[00:20:25] a sentence, they kill you, it's not a game, we agree with
[00:20:28] I agree with what he says, but I want to highlight this,
[00:20:32] until before, before September 5th, this video was a
[00:20:35] game, as Bicat says and as... he says from the 5th onwards it is a means of
[00:20:39] proof, it is proof, unfortunately it is like that, it is a means of
[00:20:42] proof, whether anyone likes it or not, judicially,
[00:20:45] criminally or in this case legally, today that
[00:20:49] video. which was a game before, today is a means of proof, a means
[00:20:53] of determinant, objective proof to ensure that these
[00:20:56] people remain detained, well speaking of Mar del Plata, this happened in Mar del
[00:21:00] Plata, punished by insecurity, Mar del Plata, punished by insecurity, Mar
[00:24:33] more complaints about photos with
[00:24:36] ia,
[00:24:40] students sell them on
[00:24:42] social media,
[00:24:48] they join against students from other
[00:24:51] schools,
[00:24:58] this that we are seeing is the Lomas de Zamora model
[00:25:02] school, it's a sit-in, a massive
[00:25:04] carried out,
[00:25:08] the issue is the following, they used real photographs,
[00:25:12] with AI, they modified them and
[00:25:15] not only did they sell them to other schools, girls
[00:25:19] between... 16 years old, but they
[00:25:22] also uploaded them to some pages that we can call triple
[00:25:26] X if you want to be able to mention them somehow,
[00:25:28] as if all this weren't enough, there's a
[00:25:32] system, Jorgito, uh,
[00:25:35] help me with this, because I don't know that much, there's a
[00:25:38] system in the Telegram application that in
[00:25:41] different groups you can carry out
[00:25:44] sales actions that are not always legal
[00:25:48] and that are not, so to speak, so controlled, the
[00:25:52] minors themselves said the following: look
[00:25:55] how macabre the action was that these
[00:25:58] minors carried out, they took
[00:26:01] photos of the... girls
[00:26:04] and put their phone real of the
[00:26:06] minors
[00:26:09] and sold them as if they were sex
[00:26:11] workers, telling everyone in that
[00:26:15] group that they could communicate with these girls
[00:26:19] to ask for money, they end up finding out this way, they start
[00:26:22] receiving hundreds, hundreds, thousands of
[00:26:26] messages telling them they want
[00:26:28] to sexually hire girls between 14 and...
[00:26:32] 16 years old, you know, they know who,
[00:26:36] their friends, their own co-workers, the kids they were sitting
[00:26:40] with two benches, three benches ahead, three benches behind
[00:26:43] and you will say, there was a tremendous
[00:26:46] penalty, the kids were separated,
[00:26:49] no, the school had this information for a month, the
[00:26:53] school let the photographs circulate for a month, the
[00:26:57] school told the mothers and fathers of the
[00:27:01] victims absolutely nothing.
[00:27:03] And they ended up finding out from the minors themselves, exactly, exactly what
[00:27:07] you're saying, this introduction is valid,
[00:27:10] besides, it must be remembered that a second school is also added, which is the
[00:27:14] Thomas Edison school in Ituzaingó, which has
[00:27:17] several minors who were also subjected to this same ploy,
[00:27:21] it seems that it would be a single gang that divided the work,
[00:27:25] so to speak, because they worked in the same way, the modus operandi was
[00:27:28] exactly the same, they took the real photos with artificial
[00:27:32] intelligence, they worked on them and made a fraud regarding the images,
[00:27:36] they published them on different platforms, they published the cell phone numbers
[00:27:40] of each of these children, they even put real names and surnames,
[00:27:43] yes, not only that, the absolute madness,
[00:27:47] look, in the Thomas Edison of Ituzaingó there is a child
[00:27:50] who is 7 years old whose image was used
[00:27:53] on platforms with nudity and with sexual
[00:27:57] activity to promote and sell that image and consequently
[00:28:00] also that child's phone. who would have a phone number, would have
[00:28:04] a phone number, I don't know how they accessed it, the situation is that the schools, both
[00:28:08] Loma de Zamora and Ituzaingó, kept this situation
[00:28:11] in reserve for a while, Lomas for a month and Ituzaingó
[00:28:15] for about 10 days, but what happened in that time
[00:28:18] these minors, these minors were in a way
[00:28:22] bothered in a very way contacted, identified
[00:28:25] with the images and now I also want to clarify
[00:28:29] this and add this. there is a collective
[00:28:34] fear of the underage adolescents themselves,
[00:28:36] first of all, there must be authorities
[00:28:40] who understand that this is not a
[00:28:43] game, they are not playing, this is
[00:28:46] pedophilia, they are pedophiles,
[00:28:49] there is commercialization, they sell the images, guys,
[00:28:53] it's tremendous what is happening, this was organized, premeditated
[00:28:56] and it was planned,
[00:29:00] here it meets all the requirements to say that it is a criminal organization of minors, yes,
[00:29:04] of minors, but look, this also begins by
[00:29:08] becoming public within the educational sphere of that
[00:29:11] school in Lomas de Zamora as a consequence of one of these
[00:29:15] minors who was part of this gang feeling
[00:29:18] repentant, why? Because he was not a participant in the profits that the
[00:29:21] group was having, we are talking about a minor who was not
[00:29:25] receiving part of that loot, which
[00:29:29] was to collect a significant amount of money and that made him
[00:29:32] disclose this ploy, as a consequence of that, a
[00:29:36] second school already emerges, the Thomas Edison school,
[00:29:40] today I am talking to police authorities and there is absolute secrecy
[00:29:42] of the summary and it is being said very strongly that there would be at least two
[00:29:46] more schools that in the next few hours will also come to light with this situation that
[00:29:50] many are experiencing, I would love to know what I am going to
[00:29:53] say is not right, but the
[00:29:56] photographs of the girls were circulated
[00:29:59] on XXX pages, why don't we know the faces
[00:30:03] of the criminals who carried out the
[00:30:06] modification, the girls are also underage, they are all underage, they are all underage
[00:30:10] and they identified them with name and surname and uploaded them to XXX pages
[00:30:14] and put them in different telegram
[00:30:17] groups with the real phone number, yes, but
[00:30:20] again, these minors and that's why we were talking about the age of
[00:30:24] criminal responsibility just now, they are punishable, that's why two minors
[00:30:26] of 15 years old are already indicted, point to that point, you know
[00:30:30] that we have a and article
[00:30:33] 128 specifies several actions for what
[00:30:36] you said, producing is one,
[00:30:39] financing, offering, trading,
[00:30:43] publishing, facilitating,
[00:30:47] article 128 of the criminal code speaks of that
[00:30:50] facilitation of exposing an
[00:30:53] implicit image because it is penalized on
[00:30:57] social networks, let's see, in turn asking for a...