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[00:00:00] one thing, the news is always black widow or black widower and the victims are
[00:00:03] always men. The day there's a woman, it's news. A
[00:00:07] woman as a victim, it's not news. It's always men.
[00:00:11] We are victims of something else
[00:00:12] unfortunately.
[00:00:19] Tomorrow is a big day, let's say,
[00:00:23] for the national government because the inflation for the month of
[00:00:26] September will be released. A big day, ironically. Why?
[00:00:30] Because the data for the ninth month of the year will show an increase. Let's remember that
[00:00:34] the month of August showed 1.7%.
[00:00:37] Well, it is said that inflation will be 1.9% or
[00:00:40] 2% for the month of
[00:00:43] September. Yes, and there is bad news because the first
[00:00:47] week of October brought increases in meat and
[00:00:50] food. It is said to be around 0.5%. And
[00:00:54] if we talk about the month of
[00:00:58] September, private estimates indicated that food inflation
[00:01:02] reached even more than
[00:01:06] to enslave, let's say, indigenous 2.5%. Bad news for the government that at this point in the year
[00:01:10] thought inflation would be less than 1%, but
[00:01:13] now it has stalled at 2%.
[00:01:17] Also, another bad news for consumers
[00:01:20] is that there is talk of a new increase in meat
[00:01:24] happened in 10 minutes, everything for the month of October and November before the last month of the year, which usually
[00:01:28] has increases in that sector. Why?
[00:01:31] Due to the impact of climate change.
[00:01:35] Yes, that's what they say from the meat industry. So
[00:01:39] tomorrow the inflation number for the month of September will be released, and prepare your wallet
[00:01:43] because in October and November there will be
[00:01:47] a new increase in beef.
[00:01:48] For those
[00:04:21] takes the shortest path? The
[00:04:22] treatments. More details at
[00:04:56] respect for cultural diversity.
[00:05:01] From discovery to
[00:05:03] resistance,
[00:05:07] how the meaning of October
[00:05:10] a wild tales episode on 12th changed.
[00:05:14] History has changed, at least from when we were studying and
[00:05:18] were children, they told us Columbus Day, we would
[00:05:21] put on costumes and the act would take place, and then as
[00:05:25] the years have passed, the name has been changed to respect for cultural
[00:05:29] diversity, and it is not a celebration, but
[00:05:32] obviously it tells a little about the history of colonization, Gustavo. Exactly.
[00:05:36] Well, let's talk a little about it, that's why with Marcelo Bullo, whom we already have
[00:05:40] connected. Hello Marcelo, very good.
[00:06:12] Let's say, not with the so-called discovery of America, which
[00:06:16] they practically ask Spain to apologize
[00:06:19] for what they did here in
[00:06:22] America. Look, that negative
[00:06:26] view, isn't it, about the
[00:06:29] events that occurred from 1492
[00:06:31] has a name and
[00:06:35] surname. The name and surname is
[00:06:38] that that is in the
[00:06:41] legend. The Spanish conquest of America
[00:06:44] created precisely by Spain's enemies,
[00:06:48] who were fundamentally England. Look, when
[00:06:51] England celebrates its triumph
[00:06:54] over Argentina in the Falklands War, eh, it has
[00:06:58] to choose a day to celebrate it, and what day does it choose? It chooses
[00:07:02] to celebrate it on October 12th. Why does it choose
[00:07:05] to celebrate it on October 12th? Because the enemy is never
[00:07:08] wrong. The enemy says, "We have not defeated Argentina,
[00:07:12] but we have defeated Spanish America, all of Hispanicity." That is,
[00:07:16] it fires at the totality, a totality to
[00:07:19] which we belong, that we share, right,
[00:07:23] language and values. Now we have
[00:07:26] to ask ourselves if this
[00:07:28] policy, a policy initiated in Argentina by Kirchnerism,
[00:07:32] of denigration of
[00:07:35] our Hispanic heritage, is true. If Spain
[00:07:39] came to America to steal and for that killed and murdered. One would have to
[00:07:43] ask why, immediately after the
[00:07:46] conquest ended, all of Spanish America was sown with
[00:07:49] hospitals. All of Mexico was sown with hospitals, all of
[00:07:53] Peru was sown with hospitals, schools, universities, schools,
[00:07:56] universities, hospitals that of course could not be for Spaniards because there were no
[00:08:00] Spaniards. Cortés went with 700 people. It was sown with
[00:08:03] hospitals, it was sown with schools. What is the
[00:08:07] particularity of these schools? I would say anyone who listens to us, anyone
[00:08:10] would want their child to go to a bilingual school. They are very expensive in Buenos
[00:08:14] Aires, wherever you want. However, these schools were trilingual.
[00:08:18] Sure, but professor, they tell me, surely Spain did it to take away the language
[00:08:22] of the indigenous people, of the Indians. Look, son, I tell you, the truth
[00:08:25] is that those schools taught Spanish. Of course, but
[00:08:29] they also learned Nahuatl in the case
[00:08:32] of Mexico, yes, Aztec. They learned Guaraní, they learned
[00:08:36] Quechua in Peru,
[00:08:39] how to write. They are the priests, it's not more, Marcelo. Pardon, they did
[00:08:42] not have their own, they make the first
[00:08:46] grammar.
[00:08:49] I mean, they didn't have their own culture and they came to
[00:08:52] break that. What happens with that teaching that says, "well no, they had
[00:08:56] their way of healing or their way of expressing their culture
[00:09:00] different from what was European"? Yes, different, but sometimes it is
[00:09:04] romanticized. It is an excellent,
[00:09:07] yes, it is an excellent question, but that
[00:09:10] question starts from the lack of knowledge.
[00:09:13] For example, let's put only one case, then we will put others if
[00:09:16] you want, of what Mexico was, for example. If the idea that in Mexico
[00:09:20] there is, right, only one
[00:09:24] culture, only one people, and in reality what there was in
[00:09:27] Mexico was a set of peoples, more than
[00:09:30] 100, where there was one people who were the
[00:09:33] Aztec people, who were an imperialism that had dominated the
[00:09:37] others. All imperialisms dominate and demand things, but the
[00:09:40] Aztec imperialism was indeed very particular because what it demanded was
[00:09:44] human blood, human beings to be sacrificed, fresco, who
[00:09:48] is a pro-Aztec, says they killed
[00:09:51] 2,000 people a year in the pueblos they oppressed, and I don't dare
[00:09:55] say that the figure of 15,000 was
[00:09:58] false. So to those who say these people had their
[00:10:02] culture, of course they did, and Spain respected it, but it turns
[00:10:05] out that there were Tlaxcaltecs, Totonacs, and all
[00:10:09] these united with Cortés who barely had.
[00:10:25] which is what the left in Argentina doesn't do, when it's a
[00:10:28] chipaya left, it takes the side of the oppressed people. The
[00:10:31] oppressed people, 90% of the
[00:10:34] population of what is now Mexico were
[00:10:37] Tlaxcaltecs, Totonacs, that is,
[00:10:40] all the peoples oppressed by the Aztecs who barely formed
[00:10:43] 8% of the population. So an army
[00:10:46] of 300,000 Indians is formed,
[00:10:49] and it is the Indians who conquered Tenochtitlan. That's why
[00:10:52] Vasconcelos, whom no one will accuse
[00:10:55] of being a right-wing man, right, the national Catholic, because he was
[00:10:58] a member of the Mexican Revolution, Minister of Education of the Mexican
[00:11:02] Revolution, says: "The conquest, sirs, you are
[00:11:05] mistaken, the conquest was not made by Cortés, the conquest was made by the
[00:11:09] Indians, fed up with what the Aztecs ate."
[00:11:12] Marcelo, sure, yes, good morning. Now you say in
[00:11:16] your thesis, you, correct me if I'm wrong, that
[00:11:19] Spain should not apologize, but I mean, there, for example, or there was,
[00:11:23] rather, a system of encomiendas, yes, that
[00:11:27] allowed Spaniards
[00:11:31] labor and collect tribute from them. I mean, shouldn't Spain
[00:11:34] also review that kind
[00:11:38] of actions that it carried out at that time
[00:11:41] here in America? Well, let's go by parts. Listen, something true,
[00:11:45] every enterprise is an enterprise composed of men, there is no people of
[00:11:48] angels, right? So in
[00:11:51] every enterprise errors are made.
[00:11:55] Now, the statement would have to discuss what encomiendas were.
[00:11:58] One would have to discuss what encomiendas were and how
[00:12:01] Spain itself, which created the encomiendas, Spain itself
[00:12:05] dismantled them. In reality, historically, they lasted very
[00:12:07] little. Historically, they lasted very little time.
[00:12:11] How Spain armed them and Spain
[00:12:14] dismantled them. But it also starts from a
[00:12:17] idea that you say lacks
[00:12:20] previous prior knowledge, that is, how were the Indians
[00:12:24] before? You understand, because the Aztec empire enslaved the others
[00:12:28] and in America there were slaves, there were slaves in Peru, there were
[00:12:32] slaves in Mexico.
[00:12:35] Very clear, I really recommend your beautiful book,
[00:12:38] this really Motherland which clarifies all
[00:12:41] this. This, but we thank you for these minutes with, I have
[00:12:45] it here in Motherland. There it is, excellent,
[00:12:48] excellent. It was edited, it was edited in Argentina after
[00:12:52] practically 5 years of veto that prevented
[00:12:56] me from publishing it. Big hug Marcelo, thanks for these minutes,
[00:13:00] thank you very much, eh, thank you very much.
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[00:14:56] Attention,
[00:15:00] Hallelujah,
[00:15:04] teenager revived in the middle
[00:15:06] of her wake,
[00:15:09] relatives were saying goodbye and she sat up in
[00:15:12] her own
[00:15:13] coffin.
[00:15:18] This happened in Guatemala, Gustavo. There we are seeing how
[00:15:21] this 17-year-old girl got up
[00:15:25] after being declared dead for 8 hours. Yes, in the hospital
[00:15:29] they had declared her dead. They were holding the wake, notice that
[00:15:32] the whole family was saying goodbye. A miracle, it's a true miracle, because
[00:15:36] I mean, it's not that they made a mistake. She was really declared
[00:15:39] clinically dead by doctors, not by the
[00:15:41] family, and she had no vital signs. It has happened on
[00:15:45] different occasions, catalepsy. This
[00:15:47] could be an epileptic
[00:15:49] attack.
[00:15:51] In ancient times, wakes lasted short, but
[00:15:55] after a lot of cases of catalepsy, which is a person who seems to have died
[00:15:59] and then wakes up and is inside a coffin and ends up. That's why there are many stories of
[00:16:03] people. That's why wakes.
[00:16:06] 24 hours. Now maybe they take a
[00:16:09] break, they take a break and then they come back. But yes, but at this point I think
[00:16:13] that can already be detected with medical
[00:16:15] advances. One has to see the quality of the doctors
[00:16:19] too. Besides, one has to be honest, nowadays there are no
[00:16:22] funerals like before. Today they just declare you dead and that's
[00:16:26] it.
[00:16:30] In our case, Argentina, the Recoleta cemetery, which is all
[00:16:33] that was missing, the coffin of the person who had died.
[00:16:37] The tour tells you the story, it tells you the story that, well, unfortunately she
[00:16:40] ended up dying after she was alive. Yes, of course, this
[00:16:43] 17-year-old girl was in Guatemala. Look at the number
[00:16:47] of relatives who couldn't believe it when suddenly she started making noises, started making
[00:16:51] sounds, the body moved. They didn't know what was
[00:16:55] happening. Sometimes what is called, I think, correct me, rigor
[00:16:59] mortis happens when there is a body, there is some kind of
[00:17:02] movement but it doesn't mean that it revives. So they thought it was
[00:17:05] that at first. Here it is. Open coffin, right, from what I see. Luckily,
[00:17:09] she manages to get up, because otherwise
[00:17:13] they would bury her, they would bury her alive. Yes, yes, she had no
[00:17:16] oxygen, my God, a 17-year-old
[00:17:20] girl.
[00:17:20] Eh,
[00:17:30] attention,
[00:17:36] global alert,
[00:17:41] the Pope's visit is in danger.
[00:17:45] He announced to a multitude that he has to be
[00:17:47] operated on.
[00:17:50] What will happen to the health of Leo
[00:17:51] 14?
[00:17:59] Let's celebrate, news of high global
[00:18:02] impact. Yesterday, Leo 14 said
[00:18:06] that he will be... yes, surely the operation
[00:18:10] will take place tomorrow. Well, and a lot of questions arise regarding
[00:18:13] the visit that Pope Leo 14 will make to
[00:18:17] South America. Yes, first
[00:18:20] let's remember Uruguay, then Argentina and then Peru.
[00:18:23] Well, for now there is no confirmation of any
[00:18:27] postponement, so there is very little time left, we have to say approximately one
[00:18:31] month, no, exactly. He comes on November 8th to Argentina, as we said
[00:18:34] previously he will be
[00:18:38] Uruguay. What will happen is that tomorrow or the day after tomorrow Leo
[00:18:42] 14 will be operated on and will be hospitalized for a week,
[00:18:46] yes, because according to what he said,
[00:18:48] they found a nodule in his lung, yes. Yesterday he
[00:18:52] also asked, as Pope Francis had done a few years ago,
[00:18:55] for people to pray for him. Well, precisely Leo XIV said the
[00:18:59] same thing yesterday,
[00:19:02] so we'll see what happens. There has been no talk of
[00:19:06] postponement.
[00:19:10] It's still on, exactly. The Vatican press office has not
[00:19:13] canceled any scheduled activities for the tour. The security
[00:19:17] operation is still set up. Exactly, it will depend on how
[00:19:20] it evolves, obviously. First, a week of hospitalization is planned, a
[00:19:24] week of hospitalization. They will see how the Pope's health
[00:19:27] continues, according to Vatican
[00:19:30] media. Exactly, according to Vatican media, the operation is not
[00:19:34] serious. It's a nodule that they
[00:19:37] found precisely early,
[00:19:41] thanks to the routine studies they do. Obviously, the Pope's health is
[00:19:44] super-monitored. Imagine in the Gemelli hospital,
[00:19:48] where all the Popes are treated precisely, which has a section
[00:19:51] specifically for that. Francisco is a relatively
[00:19:54] young Pope, he is 71 years old, and well, as you said,
[00:19:58] he usually has check-ups due to the great activity
[00:20:01] of the Supreme Pontiff who travels all over the
[00:20:05] world and meets with an enormous number of people
[00:20:08] day after day. But well, you have to greet him, no, how did he greet
[00:20:12] Milei? He greeted Milei exactly. He also sent strength on behalf of
[00:20:15] the Argentine people, as we said. There
[00:20:19] we are seeing Miley's tweet. "I want to send my affection and best wishes to
[00:20:23] Pope Leo XIV before the intervention he will undergo.
[00:20:27] All of Argentina accompanies His Holiness with
[00:20:30] affection and prayer, wishing him a speedy and complete
[00:20:33] recovery. From our country, we unite in prayer for his health,
[00:20:37] with the hope that he will soon be able to continue guiding the
[00:20:40] Church with the wisdom and strength that
[00:20:43] characterizes him." Well, as we said, for now the activities
[00:20:46] continue. He had said that the Pope was.
[00:20:50] Pope Francis had said it, exactly, representative of the evil one on
[00:20:54] earth, no? I say, I say because that change of opinion
[00:20:58] is at least positive, I imagine, from
[00:21:01] having said that he was the devil on earth, to wishing him a speedy
[00:21:05] recovery. Pope Francis forgave him, said it was a youthful sin,
[00:21:09] the detail is that Milei was 52 years old when he said it, but well,
[00:21:12] returning to the matter of Leo 14, for
[00:21:15] now the South American tour remains confirmed.
[00:21:19] from November 8th to 11th,
[00:21:22] Pope Leo 14 will be in our country. He passed by tie.
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[00:25:52] Attention,
[00:26:00] the coast.
[00:26:02] Brutal fight at the exit of a
[00:26:04] club, punches, kicks, a car
[00:26:08] out of control,
[00:26:11] everything ended in a pitched
[00:26:14] battle.
[00:26:17] Gaston Marote, this case is tremendous, look there,
[00:26:21] there's the car, no, the open field, the door open.
[00:26:25] But look to the right, how the fight unfolds,
[00:26:28] kicks, they throw a guy to the ground, kicks,
[00:26:31] punches. As always, the girls trying to separate them, shouting
[00:26:35] for them to stop. Look, kicks to the head, to the body, everywhere. There, the guy separated.
[00:26:39] The guy is the one in gray. Now you'll see that the car
[00:26:42] tries to intervene to prevent them from continuing to hit him. The car, in the car are the friends
[00:26:46] of this guy. Open hood, U-turn, goes against traffic,
[00:26:50] insults back and forth. The guy in gray is in the middle of the
[00:26:54] aggressors again. After a discussion, one of the aggressors
[00:26:57] follows the car. The car takes the focus off the kid to take
[00:27:00] all the attention. And obviously to prevent them from continuing to hit him.
[00:27:03] hitting, at one point he says, "We have to keep hitting this guy," when they go to
[00:27:07] attack him, the guy runs, he's running, see, he's running away from the place,
[00:27:11] they follow him, they chase him and finally he gets into the passenger side of the car
[00:27:15] and manages to get to safety. In the middle of
[00:27:18] this, the vehicle lost its bumper and one of the attackers throws the
[00:27:21] bumper at him. We are talking about, look, I told you everything that
[00:27:27] that happened absolutely. The truth is that the driver of the vehicle was trying
[00:27:31] to insult the attackers, trying to absorb
[00:27:34] attention to prevent them from continuing to hit him. The truth is that it's super valid
[00:27:37] too. Look at the detail, precisely the other one, always at the exit of
[00:27:41] a nightclub, it's impressive. Look, yes,
[00:27:44] notice that the other one, what I don't understand, you know what it is? That at the moment when the
[00:27:47] car draws attention, the kid who is being attacked instead of
[00:27:51] escaping and getting into the vehicle remains mixed in the middle
[00:27:54] of the violent ones and obviously throws a punch, they attack him
[00:27:58] again, not a single police officer, no, nothing in the very same
[00:28:01] nightclub, there's nothing, supposedly these are the surroundings
[00:28:04] of the nightclub where the police should be precisely guarding
[00:28:08] the exit to prevent not only this but also to prevent robberies, not
[00:28:11] the robberies that can occur in those places. There's absolutely
[00:28:15] nothing and this guy, fortunately, got up despite the kicks
[00:28:19] and was able to get to safety inside the car, otherwise we would be talking about something
[00:28:22] else.
[00:28:27] To close, nine against one is not
[00:28:29] a fight.
[00:28:35] And all of us, to a greater or lesser extent, use artificial intelligence, perhaps
[00:28:39] to search for something, perhaps for some recommendation, I don't know, to
[00:28:43] eat, Gustavo, well, tell me a restaurant that serves
[00:28:46] fish, sure, recommend me. The thing is that
[00:28:50] for an excursion, a 16-year-old kid, which is what he did, he asked
[00:28:54] artificial intelligence for a route to climb a
[00:28:57] mountain. The thing is that it led him through very
[00:29:01] risky areas. And this kid got trapped. Moral of the story: artificial
[00:29:04] intelligence can kill you
[00:29:07] directly and literally, and it's not a joke. Pay attention to this because
[00:29:11] it opens up a whole debate, we could say, right? Where does it
[00:29:15] lead you? Notice that this
[00:29:18] kid, a kid, a 16-year-old adolescent, fully
[00:29:21] trusted, like all adolescents, artificial intelligence is
[00:29:24] the totem. Nowadays, you ask it everything, you do therapy with
[00:29:27] artificial intelligence, which also, be careful with what it
[00:29:30] recommends.
[00:29:44] He almost fell into an abyss, that is, he got trapped on a cliff and they had to rescue him also because he went alone doing
[00:29:47] this in Canada, and really, well, this
[00:29:51] unleashed a very interesting debate on social media, especially
[00:29:55] because, let's see, was it an error of artificial
[00:29:59] intelligence? Artificial intelligence
[00:30:02] can often, when you argue with artificial
[00:30:05] intelligence, you say, "But this street doesn't
[00:30:09] go this way," it says, "You're right,
[00:30:11] I made a mistake." Sure, but it makes mistakes with very
[00:30:15] obvious things. I'm not that naive. I mean, I have the impression that at some
[00:30:18] point, if artificial intelligence wants to commit a crime, who
[00:30:24] thing is that, of course, artificial intelligence won't go to jail. It doesn't know it was
[00:30:27] dangerous. What do you look for in artificial intelligence? I look
[00:30:31] to corroborate data, I ask about cliffs,
[00:30:34] I mean, I think you have to ask a specialist, not in addition if
[00:30:38] you do this kind of sport or
[00:30:41] activity, well, I think the guy is a bit foolish, but
[00:30:44] it even confuses, for example, officials. If you want to know what
[00:30:48] function a certain politician had in a certain year, it's not always that
[00:30:51] precise. The important thing is that afterwards you check,
[00:30:55] you check where the AI gets
[00:30:58] its intelligence from too.