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[00:00:02] Rodo, so I don't know, what the the dog was moving
[00:00:06] on that side, the 4-year-old girl
[00:00:10] was inside the house
[00:00:14] and the front of this house has a door and an
[00:00:17] opening, yes, a window,
[00:00:19] uh the door
[00:00:22] yes, uh apparently it was just
[00:00:26] leaning, yes, it wasn't completely closed,
[00:00:29] and when the family leaves here to look for
[00:00:33] that girl, it's like the dog was outside,
[00:00:37] uh, the child was inside and the dog enters,
[00:00:40] yes, through the main door, let's say,
[00:00:43] yes, that's when the event occurs that it's not
[00:00:47] known why, uh, the dog attacks
[00:00:51] a, it's a dog, that's what directly the girl who was on a couch sitting,
[00:00:55] uh, with a cell phone, she was
[00:00:57] entertained, yes, with a cell phone
[00:01:01] watching videos, yes, that's
[00:01:04] when the whole situation inside the house
[00:01:08] occurs, I don't think a 4-year-old girl upon return, it's a boy,
[00:01:11] Homer, oh, a girl, Rodo says, that's why, well, I don't think a 4-year-old
[00:01:15] or a piece of clothing with the child's who realizes that they are alone,
[00:01:18] would be so calm watching a
[00:01:21] cell phone, I mean, maybe the doggy heard that the
[00:01:25] child got upset and started screaming,
[00:01:29] let's say, it seems strange that they would be so calm at
[00:01:33] 4 years old, when you realize that you were left alone in your house at 4
[00:01:36] years old, you get very nervous, you
[00:01:39] get, stressed, it also happens that
[00:01:43] Rodo, they don't have so much notion of how to control their body at
[00:01:46] 4 years old, maybe it was that it jumped on her, who knows what
[00:01:50] happened, the problem is also that the mother trusts to leave her child
[00:01:53] with her godmother
[00:01:55] I don't know when it happened either, as far and they leave him alone because she has no one to leave him with because she had a
[00:01:58] disabled mother.
[00:02:14] least of it, but it's more about what the She had to see it because they called her a bad mother for having left her child, no, and
[00:02:18] above all, an animal, a veterinarian can always tell you this,
[00:02:22] an animal always gives you signals before
[00:02:24] attacking. Here, the
[00:02:28] family, the situation. The dog didn't know the
[00:02:31] girls. Oh, you're in front of
[00:02:34] the house. It happened on Saturday afternoon, around
[00:02:38] 7:30. What did you get to see or hear? We didn't
[00:02:41] hear anything. We didn't hear anything. The dog
[00:02:45] was always inside, always inside, always inside. And how
[00:02:49] did you find out about this whole situation that was happening? She came here.
[00:02:52] Joana came, yes, yes. And what did she tell you? She came to say that
[00:02:55] we should call someone because it was a tragedy.
[00:03:02] over our dogs, they are not in the right, dogs are instinctive, I repeat,
[00:03:07] Yes, a girl who was here called, and they came and found themselves in this situation.
[00:03:11] Did you know that a child was alone inside the house? We didn't know,
[00:03:14] we didn't know anything. And the dog
[00:03:18] supposedly took it away, you said. Did you
[00:03:21] hear barking? Was it a dog that was on the street or was it
[00:03:25] inside? It was never on the street, always inside. It barked well.
[00:03:29] And Joana, in this desperation, did she tell you anything? Yes, she went
[00:03:34] breeds perpetuating themselves, okay, we are not against to pick up her daughter. Nothing, she didn't tell me anything. An ambulance came to
[00:03:37] assist the child, yes. And the ambulance confirmed
[00:03:41] that he was, yes, the child had already appeared. But do you know if the mother came
[00:03:45] afterward? I have no idea. Did this surprise
[00:03:48] you? Yes, the truth is yes. Was the dog
[00:03:51] violent or was it a domesticated dog? I don't know, it was always inside.
[00:03:53] Never.
[00:03:59] Let's see, no. Yes.
[00:04:04] here. The child was deceased, at the Well, thank you very much, no problem. She has a kiosk, Joana, the mother Rodo, could it be?
[00:04:08] They have the house and they have a kiosk, they live off that.
[00:04:11] No.
[00:04:15] No, Joana, the one who is being held/detained is the
[00:04:18] aunt, yes, yes, the godmother, she has a
[00:04:20] kiosk.
[00:04:24] Yes, as we showed at the beginning, there is a house that is divided
[00:04:28] in two, a house. private on the right and the
[00:04:32] business on the left, because you know Rodo, yesterday mom told
[00:04:35] us that Homer liked his godmother's
[00:04:38] house a lot because she gave him candies, he had a good time,
[00:04:42] it's not something, she didn't doubt the godmother's
[00:04:45] ability to care because this had been frequent and the
[00:04:49] truth is that the child had a good time even with the dog,
[00:04:52] so she finds what happened very strange and says that the
[00:04:56] prosecutor, she said this, that the prosecutor told her that this woman
[00:05:00] was quite problematic and that there had been complaints regarding
[00:05:03] the dog having had problems with other neighbors,
[00:05:07] which she didn't know about, look, guys, how old is the dog,
[00:05:10] it's known, the dog. A year and a half, two or three, it doesn't matter, if it's a
[00:05:14] dog that already has, if it's a male that is more, if it's a
[00:05:18] male that is more than 12 months old, it already has a strong territorial
[00:05:21] instinct, uh, people buy dogs
[00:05:25] forgetting that, I always say,
[00:05:27] the breed comes, the
[00:05:31] owner and the dog, you can change a dog, but you can't change the
[00:05:35] breed, the pitbull is a dog that has a very important
[00:05:39] attack capacity, it's a dog that bites other dogs. It's so
[00:05:42] important what you say that there are provinces like,
[00:05:46] for example, the province of Misiones that passed a law, that every person who has a
[00:05:49] dog of these characteristics must be registered,
[00:05:52] they have to register, they have to register the dog because it needs to be followed up
[00:05:56] by the veterinarian, because not just anyone, sorry, by the owner, the
[00:06:00] owner of the dog, because not everyone is trained to have these
[00:06:03] animals, then the animal is stigmatized by the breed, due to
[00:06:07] poor care, so to not stigmatize, a register
[00:06:10] and follow-up of the owners must be done.
[00:06:13] Well, Joaquín, you live next to the house where it all happened,
[00:06:16] uh, what do you know about what happened? Uh, I
[00:06:20] was,
[00:06:23] yes, I was next door when
[00:06:27] this happened, I heard screams from
[00:06:29] inside, uh, I went outside, I saw a
[00:06:32] situation e where people
[00:06:36] were screaming, going in and out at one point, no, what people?
[00:06:40] Neighbors.
[00:06:43] It's, it's very strong, no, I don't, I don't, I don't feel
[00:06:46] prepared to as a neighbor of the adjoining house,
[00:06:49] you heard screams from adults, from the child, no,
[00:06:53] I heard screams from an adult woman, from a
[00:06:56] man too, I heard noises of furniture, of
[00:06:58] a fight, I didn't hear
[00:07:02] the boy,
[00:07:07] as I understand, they came in and found themselves in the unfortunate
[00:07:10] situation. Uh, what
[00:07:14] did you hear? What were they saying? That there was an animal? They weren't saying, they were saying
[00:07:18] they weren't saying, leave it, uh, grab it, kill it,
[00:07:21] uh
[00:07:23] referring, you understand, to the dog, ah, yes, yes, yes, exactly at one
[00:07:27] point a neighbor, uh,
[00:07:29] I understand that my neighbor's partner asked
[00:07:32] me for a knife, um, I
[00:07:35] passed it to him, at that moment I hesitated a bit, but I passed it to
[00:07:39] him, uh, I understand that it was to hurt the animal, ah,
[00:07:43] uh, because of the situation,
[00:07:46] uh, then the father of my
[00:07:50] neighbor appeared and told me that he had
[00:07:52] killed it, uh, that they had killed
[00:07:56] Homero, the child, yes.
[00:08:00] Uh, at first I thought that he was fighting with another animal,
[00:08:04] no, I didn't, I really didn't imagine a person, it's the last thing I wanted to imagine. Did you
[00:08:08] know Homero from seeing him a couple of times, not more, the truth
[00:08:12] is no, I live next door,
[00:08:15] but I try not to snoop because it doesn't seem
[00:08:19] right to me, but from seeing him a little, I
[00:08:21] thought it had been
[00:08:25] another child who is older and who I know, who has the kiosk,
[00:08:29] who always plays soccer here and I got scared because at one point
[00:08:32] I thought it was this other child. Do you know if
[00:08:36] it was common for the child to be alone, this 4-year-old?
[00:08:39] I don't know, I couldn't tell you, I couldn't
[00:08:43] hear a little about the mechanics of the death, if they had to separate the dog from the
[00:08:47] child's body, because maybe a knife was precisely to
[00:08:51] hurt the dog and separate it from the child's body. Did you hear anything about
[00:08:54] that? Uh, no, I don't, I don't have certainty
[00:08:57] about
[00:08:59] the matter.
[00:09:02] Uh, no, I really have no idea. Then the police came. Who arrived
[00:09:05] first, the ambulance or the police? No, the police arrived first, it took
[00:09:09] more than 40 minutes easily,
[00:09:13] approximately to get
[00:09:17] moment he had passed away, that's right.
[00:09:21] Then another patrol car arrived, and a little later an
[00:09:24] ambulance also arrived, and they corroborated what
[00:09:27] we already knew. Uh,
[00:09:31] and not much more than that. About 2 hours later, more or less, it all happened.
[00:09:35] Do you know approximately when on Saturday? Yes, this was more
[00:09:38] or less at 7:30 approximately.
[00:09:43] The card, yes, we are next-door neighbors. We see that the house is fenced with
[00:09:46] wire, tarp. Was the dog always inside the house or was it in the house
[00:09:50] at some point? Uh, I wouldn't
[00:09:53] know. I generally didn't see it
[00:09:57] inside. Uh, I didn't see it all the time either, but I did
[00:10:01] see it from the inside. Outside, no, I don't think
[00:10:05] it went out. I think so, maybe yes, because sometimes I heard
[00:10:08] them call it, uh, but it could also be that they called it inside the...
[00:10:14] inside the house, but you didn't see it outside at any point? You didn't use to,
[00:10:18] you didn't use to see it outside.
[00:10:21] Claro, you know, sorry, uh, do you know how it could have gotten in?
[00:10:26] scientific police said was that it was through a
[00:10:30] small window next door and the front window, not
[00:10:34] hot, and was it tied up when
[00:10:37] you saw it outside, the dog? Uh, no, I can't
[00:10:40] see the backyard, I don't know, I don't think
[00:10:43] so, uh, I think
[00:10:47] or those things that I completely
[00:10:50] ignore. I can leave it here.
[00:10:54] Yes, thank you very much, thank you, excuse me, well, a neighbor, oh Rodo,
[00:10:58] the truth is a very very heartfelt testimony, isn't it, from the neighbor who
[00:11:01] gave some chilling details, it seems to me, regarding
[00:11:05] the screams that he heard when
[00:11:08] they arrived, when the aunt arrived, when the
[00:11:12] relatives arrived. Now, it's
[00:11:16] I was asking you about, that locks its jaw, no, the dog,
[00:11:19] the only dog that locks its jaw is the Bull Terrier, in
[00:11:23] quotes, no dog locks its jaw, that's why if you
[00:11:27] suffocate the dog it will release it, uh, the issue is that people
[00:11:30] buy dogs very, yes, irresponsibly, very
[00:11:34] irresponsibly. I have a dog, I have a, I have a Dogue de Bordeaux, a
[00:11:37] dog, oh, look, you can see it in the background, there it would be Rodo, the
[00:11:40] dog, that's the
[00:11:43] habitat,
[00:11:46] well, you can imagine a dog, a dog that also lives stressed,
[00:11:49] the front, yes, yes, Rodo, we're listening, look where it was, yes, of course, there are
[00:11:53] a lot of dogs like that, guys, uh, yes, and now it's become fashionable, a stressed
[00:11:57] dog has less intolerance, right?
[00:11:59] Look, they had left it, according to what the neighbor said, locked
[00:12:02] outside,
[00:12:05] rain, but what I was going to tell you is, we are in communication, if I'm not
[00:12:08] wrong, Ariel Rivero, and now it's become
[00:12:11] , hello Ariel, how are you, the rest of the days, Sofía Morachelli,
[00:12:14] team, uh, and now another dog has become fashionable that I regret
[00:12:18] to tell you many will suffer, those who are not experienced with dogs, which is the
[00:12:21] Malinois, it's a dog that you must have seen that...
[00:12:26] Well, it's another dog that also, guys, I have a Dogue de Bordeaux, it's a dog that
[00:12:30] weighs between 45 and 55 kg, but it's a mastiff,
[00:12:34] it has another behavior, they are more, they are
[00:12:37] calmer, they are lazier dogs, let's say, even though that doesn't mean that at some
[00:12:41] point it might attack or react, it can
[00:12:44] attack you, it has a very large jaw, much more
[00:12:48] strongly, but it's not a poodle, are we
[00:12:52] clear? I mean, if you have those dogs, you need to know that you have to, again, without
[00:12:55] Ariel, we'll be with you,
[00:12:58] Rodo, it's understood Rodo that some neighbors don't want to
[00:13:01] speak, some are giving their testimony that
[00:13:05] is very painful. Now Ariel, regarding the responsibility of having these animals, what
[00:13:09] happens? We end up talking many times
[00:13:12] not about the owners who have these dogs and don't
[00:13:16] know how to handle them.
[00:13:19] Yes, exactly, the responsibility is always ours as human beings
[00:13:23] who don't have control
[00:13:27] necessary conditions many times, what would be a perimeter, they
[00:13:31] escape when one opens the door, sometimes the
[00:13:34] perimeters are not secure enough and they can jump a wall, a fence, go under
[00:13:38] a wire fence, it depends on the situation of the place, uh, they don't
[00:13:42] socialize them from puppies, they keep them tied up for a long time,
[00:13:45] locked up, uh, when visitors arrive, they often
[00:13:49] lock the dog up, so the dog, you know what happens, also a negative association, no,
[00:13:52] sorry, sorry to interrupt you, uh,
[00:13:55] you know what else happens, Ariel, people, I'm older, you're surely younger than
[00:13:59] me, uh, and people sometimes buy dogs because they see them in the
[00:14:02] movies, so what happens, because they become fashionable, exactly, it was TikTok, it was also
[00:14:06] what she told us, evidently her social
[00:14:09] networks, I say it unfortunately, because I insist, I have a Dogue de Bordeaux, it's
[00:14:13] a dog that people associate with Messi who has a similar dog,
[00:14:16] you think it's a good-natured dog, etc., well, it's not such a
[00:14:20] good-natured dog if you don't know how to handle it, the same happens, for example, for a long time
[00:14:24] it happened. We are older, we remember it with, for example, Dalmatians, Dalmatians are
[00:14:28] difficult dogs, everyone knows that, what happens, there was the famous movie "The Night of the Cold Noses,"
[00:14:32] people saw the Dalmatian, they said what a nice dog, or the Saint
[00:14:35] Bernard, which are large animal breeds, they are mountain dogs that,
[00:14:39] if, of course, for example, if you don't know how to
[00:14:42] administer, raise, guide them, they are difficult
[00:14:46] dogs, and now another dog has become fashionable that everyone sees on TikTok,
[00:14:50] which is the Belgian Malinois, which is a very intelligent dog, but it is a
[00:14:54] difficult dog. It can be a difficult dog or a poodle, the issue is
[00:14:57] the size, the issue is the size, how big they are, that is,
[00:15:01] poodles, there are poodles that if you raise them badly, as Ariel
[00:15:04] says, you don't socialize
[00:15:07] them, you mistreat them, there are also poodles that
[00:15:10] have, the issue is that a poodle's bite is not the same as a Dogo's, a
[00:15:14] pitbull's, or a Saint Bernard's, I think that's the big difference, but
[00:15:18] we fall into the same thing, the issue is the person who has them, but until
[00:15:21] one, let's remember this, a German Shepherd is also a very difficult
[00:15:25] dog, uh, if it's not well raised,
[00:15:26] uh.
[00:15:31] The mother told us that, uh, the child
[00:15:34] usually played with this dog. What could have happened in the dog's mind,
[00:15:37] I know you can't do this analysis perhaps, but
[00:15:41] what could have happened for it to attack him so
[00:15:44] brutally?
[00:15:48] Well, look, I don't know, I wasn't there, no, but if when a child grows
[00:15:52] up with a dog and then this type of situation
[00:15:55] happens, you have to see, uh, if, for example, I don't know, an example,
[00:15:59] always this example, the dog was with its food, if the dog was hurting
[00:16:02] at that moment, well, we weren't there, we don't know well what could have
[00:16:06] happened more. And if it grew up with the child, the dog
[00:16:10] obviously reacts, it's not instinctive, it's not that the
[00:16:13] dog will always want to attack and bite. I have a
[00:16:17] question, Ariel, because all of us who have
[00:16:20] dogs and have children, uh, there are a lot of myths, they say that
[00:16:24] when, for example, I remember when I arrived home with my newborn son, they
[00:16:27] told you to let him sniff a diaper. What happens if the dog
[00:16:31] shows its teeth in a situation? I mean, how should the adult react?
[00:16:35] Can this situation be prevented?
[00:16:39] Yes, obviously when the dog shows one of these signs, right,
[00:16:43] that it growls, that it shows its teeth, uh, what needs to be
[00:16:46] done obviously at that moment is to remove the
[00:16:49] child, a child
[00:16:53] scent, but you have to work on it, it's not that because the dog gives you that
[00:16:56] signal that it doesn't like something you should leave it as many professionals
[00:17:00] sometimes recommend, no, that obviously needs to be worked on, not
[00:17:04] because some hit it, no.
[00:17:10] You have to do it, no, because that child is going to be part of the family, so you have to trust
[00:17:13] the dog that it's going to be something positive and not something negative, the
[00:17:16] arrival, don't hit the dog, please, don't hit it because
[00:17:19] hitting it at this moment, depending on the dog's
[00:17:23] temperament, obviously, uh, it understands, so to speak, and doesn't do it
[00:17:26] again, or the dog gets worse because
[00:17:30] it precisely associates that this referent smell is something
[00:17:34] negative.
[00:17:37] Let's go a step further, you also like dogs, obviously you're a trainer, you're an expert.
[00:17:41] I like them and I've had all my life molossers, uh, guys, the dogs
[00:17:44] that are molossers, don't hit terriers, they don't learn and
[00:17:48] they become much more violent, uh, and they have a much higher pain tolerance
[00:17:52] than people think. I see that there are people who buy
[00:17:56] Bull Terriers, they buy Pit Bulls and they
[00:17:59] think what's the reaction you have to take? Call a
[00:18:02] professional, remove the positive reinforcement, what Ariele says,
[00:18:06] dogs are,
[00:18:09] I mean, they are guided by instinct, I imagine, yes,
[00:18:12] obviously dogs, uh, you also have to take into account that, like us humans,
[00:18:16] they have different temperaments, right? The character is formed by us humans
[00:18:20] when we educate them, when we allow them too much and let the dog
[00:18:23] climb in hierarchy within the house, which many times I also hear people say
[00:18:27] there's no hierarchy, and yes there is hierarchy, dogs manage themselves like that, so if the dog
[00:18:31] first growls at a child, then growls at the teenager, then growls at mom and
[00:18:35] dad of the house, they become the owner of the house, so obviously
[00:18:39] you have to educate
[00:18:43] them, correct them and teach them that's wrong,
[00:18:48] so according to the hierarchy the dog's temperament will seek to
[00:18:51] climb, it's up to us to allow it or not,
[00:18:54] to educate it correctly, I don't know how to correct it, I don't know how to work with it,
[00:18:58] it's a very strong dog, call a professional, there are a lot of trainers,
[00:19:01] right, like every field there are good, bad and so-so, but well, let's get a
[00:19:05] trainer at least to have tools.
[00:19:07] And then we'll look for a better one, but the idea is that people have to invest in the
[00:19:11] dog's education just like they invest in their child's education, that's why I want to ask
[00:19:15] Ariel, the issue is that they don't want to, many times people can't
[00:19:18] or don't want to pay for a trainer, they try to solve it
[00:19:21] alone, when it's out of hand they call a trainer and then they ask to stay more, that's
[00:19:25] really impossible, well, that's precisely why, based on what
[00:19:28] you're saying, that there are many people who have these breeds and are not
[00:19:32] responsible, for the state it becomes a matter of public
[00:19:35] health, it's a public health interest. That the animal attacks other
[00:19:39] dogs, that it attacks humans, so I was saying that there are provinces that are
[00:19:43] starting to make mandatory registration of potentially dangerous
[00:19:46] breeds, there is a description of these breeds, but there can also be mixed breeds
[00:19:50] that are large and that are the mixed breeds, which are dogs without a breed, right, that can be
[00:19:53] aggressive and that also have to be registered, what does this consist of, they
[00:19:57] put a microchip in the animal and they follow up on it, a
[00:20:01] service comes, look, if you have the conditions, for example, the
[00:20:04] perimeter of the house closed to have this situation. They follow up on
[00:20:07] you because it's also a matter of public health for the
[00:20:11] state when this animal, it's clear because it affects others
[00:20:14] and also they force you to have a civil liability record, listen, they force
[00:20:18] you to have a civil liability insurance for the damages
[00:20:21] that because, look, if we have to trust sometimes,
[00:20:25] a veces
[00:20:29] I don't have a dog now but I've always had a dog.
[00:20:31] Dog. No, one, I'm going to
[00:20:35] explain why, guys.
[00:20:50] A purebred dog, that comes from a recognized breeder, has a chip, the
[00:20:54] dog, whether it's you, the dog, when you buy
[00:20:57] it, they give it to you dewormed with a chip, but I want to clarify this because people don't
[00:21:01] know, people don't know, it has a certificate,
[00:21:04] etc., that means the dog is traceable, not just what it does and where
[00:21:08] it is and its genetic configuration, but its
[00:21:11] ancestors, that's very important because you can tell the temperament of the
[00:21:15] father, of the father and mother, if they are dogs that already come
[00:21:18] from parents with a very difficult temperament, many dogs are called working
[00:21:22] dogs, they are used for a lot of tasks, they are dogs that are in the hands of
[00:21:25] Ariel and the trainers that you will inevitably have
[00:21:29] to train, but that's why we are talking about people who can buy from a breeder and those
[00:21:33] dogs cost a fortune, those breeder dogs that come with a chip that have the
[00:21:37] genealogy, but what I'm getting at is that if you got a puppy, a mix of
[00:21:40] Neapolitan Mastiff with German Shepherd, it's already a
[00:21:44] potentially dangerous dog due to its genetic composition, that's why what I'm
[00:21:48] telling you is that many provinces are doing it. They force owners because they fine
[00:21:52] you, let me explain it because it's something super new, if, if you, for example,
[00:21:55] report that your neighbor has a potentially dangerous dog that is not
[00:21:58] registered, the state can come and fine you, because the idea is that the
[00:22:02] owners start to be responsible for those animals, that's why
[00:22:06] society has to get involved because if you hit people in the wallet,
[00:22:09] I assure you they will think three times before, we avoid a lot
[00:22:13] of deaths, but did you see where this dog was raised,
[00:22:17] guys, we are talking about dogs that have. Ariel, no,
[00:22:21] that is, obviously we provide a lot of information that is useful, but it has
[00:22:24] happened to me to pass by some house that perhaps has some homemade
[00:22:28] fences that the dog sticks its nose
[00:22:32] through the fences, so I say we end up trusting the
[00:22:36] safety or the resources that the neighbor has to raise a dog that
[00:22:39] perhaps does not have the conditions to
[00:22:41] raise it.
[00:22:44] Yes, exactly, but well, the thing is that people are not aware, if I don't have the
[00:22:48] conditions to have a dog of that type, I shouldn't have it because
[00:22:51] obviously, at some point, this type of situation can happen, right, that a
[00:22:55] child passes by the sidewalk, as you say, very close to the fence, the dog
[00:22:59] sticks its head out, bites the child or an adult, tears their jacket, which is the
[00:23:04] dog is learning, it's being reinforced by sticking its head out
[00:23:08] through the clear fence. Gastón, well,
[00:23:11] precisely, let's see, if people, let's see, if you buy a
[00:23:15] Pitbull dog, yes, a Pitbull or you buy a German Shepherd, how much does a Pitbull dog cost?
[00:23:18] I'm looking, it's between 35,000 and 39,000
[00:23:22] pesos, could be, I don't know, if you spent, let's say a million
[00:23:26] pesos, if you spent a lot to buy a Pitbull,
[00:23:29] come on, does it cost you a lot to spend 50, 100 thousand pesos to, let's go, to bring a
[00:23:33] trainer? They spend it, well, that's the thing, but
[00:23:36] it is the thing, people do that, you spend a fortune on the
[00:23:40] dog and then you don't want to invest in what has to do with it, but we shouldn't
[00:23:44] normalize buying animals, we also have to
[00:23:47] say it and that they continue perpetuating.
[00:24:20] You don't approve of breeders, you approve of the
[00:24:24] breeders,
[00:24:28] it's like everything guys, stop for a bit, it's like everything, there are breeders who are super
[00:24:32] responsible, people who love animals, who treat them as if they were part of their
[00:24:35] family, animal breeders,
[00:24:37] well, how to say approve, let's see, in
[00:24:39] reality, as they are saying
[00:24:42] there,
[00:24:45] there are responsible people who do their job well, there are people who don't, who don't feed the
[00:24:49] animals,
[00:25:29] let's take the doctor, let's take the doctor out of the apartment where she lives, uh
[00:25:32] look, Dr. Veres should know that dogs are
[00:25:36] man's first genetic engineering and are a working tool for many
[00:25:40] people in the interior of the country, but when you give
[00:25:43] pet in a box for Christmas, does that seem
[00:25:47] natural to you? What are you teaching them?
[00:25:51] That they are bought and put in a box or a being, uh
[00:25:54] sure, an object, you are treating it, there are many things to
[00:25:57] analyze, I have a friend who is a
[00:26:01] had to talk about animals, I would say that no one can have dogs, no one
[00:26:05] has dogs, no, let's see, because it is not their natural habitat, dogs have to be
[00:26:08] in a pack, let's see, this
[00:26:10] you know,
[00:26:17] a dog is a domestic animal, it is not a wild animal, it is a domestic animal because
[00:26:21] they forced it, they forced it,
[00:26:25] sorry, Ariel, this is common in our program, so you talk whenever
[00:26:28] you want, talk, go ahead, you talk, explain.
[00:27:03] is because he likes the breed, the characteristics, because he shares moments, he dedicates
[00:27:06] time, as they said there, they use it for security,
[00:27:09] obviously a security dog is not a dog that we are going to let get killed, it is not a dog that will
[00:27:13] warn when it sees something suspicious, a noise, etc. so that one
[00:27:17] is alert, then there are people who also use and
[00:27:21] need service dogs, for people with reduced mobility,
[00:27:24] etc., so there the issue of rats is used a lot due to the general
[00:27:28] which does not mean that
[00:27:32] a mixed breed cannot do it,
[00:27:35] desarrollado lo que sería el instinto de trabajo eh platas de
[00:27:39] security breeds like scent
[00:27:42] account, let's see dogs are
[00:27:45] animals that have lived with humans
[00:27:49] they are domestic animals, then if they are loose in
[00:27:53] the countryside, well they will be wilder and will
[00:27:56] también cuando uno va a un tanil y suelta todos los
[00:28:00] dog comes in, newly arrived, and all the
[00:28:04] resto va a ir corriendo a olfatearlo eh porque trabajan en
[00:28:07] a pack, it happens when they attack, I wanted to ask you, is it
[00:28:11] bueno o es malo da igual humanizar los
[00:28:14] dogs, you know that
[00:28:18] más que la comida que la
[00:28:19] bed.
[00:28:22] Look, there are things that I obviously don't recommend
[00:28:26] because as I said today, you always have to take into account the temperament, there are dogs that you allow
[00:28:29] temperamento hay perros que vos le permitís dormir en la camaro. y después el perro se
[00:28:33] takes over the house, there are dogs that don't, it doesn't mean that all are the same, but rather the temperament
[00:28:37] y la educación de cada perro, mira Ariel, para para volver
[00:28:40] rápidamente con Rodo, porque se da un poco lo que decía recién Tami,
[00:28:44] Rodo, no, los perros que están en la calle se manejan juntos,
[00:28:48] no como en Jauría, claro, sí, tal cual,
[00:28:51] porque los que están en la calle por decir un modo tenían como perros salvajes, vamos decir,
[00:28:55] no, uh, they walk in
[00:28:58] buscan tanuda, entonces empieza a trabajar
[00:29:00] there.
[00:29:04] Totally, a big sterilization campaign must be done because there can't be, dogs cannot
[00:29:07] be in the situation they are in Argentina, Argentina is
[00:29:11] one of the countries that has the most dogs per inhabitant, I don't know if you know that,
[00:29:14] we are one of the most dog-loving countries in the world,
[00:29:17] now those of us who have dogs have to be responsible and those who have
[00:29:21] females, especially those of us who have large
[00:29:25] free castrations, I have seen many, they go to the
[00:29:29] neighborhoods, they go to the neighborhoods with the trucks and
[00:29:33] now there are fewer than before anyway, uh, but there are
[00:29:37] rescuers themselves because well
[00:29:40] obviously today, like everything, uh, no one takes care
[00:29:44] hungry in the streets, neither,
[00:29:47] well, they don't take care of humans,
[00:29:50] clearly, well, but there are still a lot
[00:29:53] que trabajan gente que se hace cargo lo
[00:29:57] esterilizando vos el dato que dabas eh recordemos que hay una baja
[00:30:01] de natalidad adida.