CRONICA — broadcast 20261012 173000 UTC 485 transcript segments Google Cloud Speech-to-Text API (Chirp) + Gemini 2.5 Flash Non-Thinking Data courtesy of The GDELT Project (https://www.gdeltproject.org/), from the Internet Archive TV News Archive. Machine transcription. Treat it as a searchable index of what was broadcast, not a verbatim quotation record. [00:00:00] September marks 16 years since that afternoon, 16 [00:00:03] years without Rominayan, but there are people who, even if they are no longer [00:00:07] physically present, continue to live in the memory of all those who once [00:00:10] made them part of their [00:00:12] childhood. [00:00:17] September 28, 2010, it was a spring afternoon, like [00:00:21] any other, until a news story fiction and reality merged, not because [00:00:25] Rominayan played Belén Fraga, a kind of stepmother who took [00:00:28] care of a lot of children who had lost their mom or dad and were in an [00:00:32] orphanage, in a children's home, some time [00:00:35] later, her own death [00:00:38] caused her son a very similar story, only he doesn't have a foster [00:00:42] home, the home where he [00:00:44] use it as many times as you want. With is left without that mom is with a totally violent, [00:00:47] aggressive dad who harassed him, who showed [00:00:50] a lot of contempt towards him, towards his brother, perhaps not [00:00:53] so much towards the girl, I mean, how impressive it is also [00:00:56] within the home where this story takes place, which is already [00:01:00] aberrant in anyone, but in this one where his [00:01:03] mom had represented an [00:01:06] actress who had to take care of children without [00:01:09] episode, these episodes of mom and without dad, I was also thinking about the [00:01:12] fortune these kids [00:01:15] had to have that grandfather who decided to listen to them, Gustavo [00:01:18] Yankelevich, listen to them, pay [00:01:21] attention, make a very important decision [00:01:24] such as subjecting all this to a judicial matter, asking for [00:01:28] custody of the children. having it, obtaining it, despite [00:01:32] the struggle he went through, because Valentín also tells it in his [00:01:36] three, three interview, Darío, for that not to happen, I mean, asking for forgiveness belatedly, obviously, [00:01:40] I mean, having that grandfather was very important for those kids, because it could [00:01:44] not have happened, look what happened to them with the other grandparents and also very healing, [00:01:48] because a child who at a very young age was thinking of [00:01:51] committing suicide, suddenly having a grandfather for whom you [00:01:55] feel it was worth staying alive, that it was worth moving forward, and he says [00:01:59] that his main dream is to form a [00:02:02] young people, I'm not seeing that many family. A grandfather who listened, [00:02:05] who supported him, who gave him love because he needed that. [00:02:09] Love for children, you have to listen to them. As a mother, the truth is that when [00:02:12] my children tell me they don't want to be with someone, I listen to them again, [00:02:16] because there's a reason, you know, when children don't [00:02:18] what a mess like someone, you always have to pay attention to that. Yes, totally, [00:02:21] Claudia. What do you think about this we are [00:02:24] talking about, psychologically speaking, from your point of view as a [00:02:28] psychologist? I'm thinking, [00:02:33] get ruined. Now you're thinking what you're going to this child lost his mother, and at the same time, he also lost his [00:02:36] father. He lost his paternal grandparents, too. So he went [00:02:40] through a lot of losses. [00:02:43] Luckily, he was able to recover thanks to the love of this grandfather who [00:02:46] acts as a father, right? Clearly, [00:02:49] and all that history has [00:02:53] managed not to define him completely. I mean, everything that happened to him [00:02:57] is not his future. He has [00:03:00] the possibility and the desire to have a family. I mean, he has [00:03:03] been able to overcome this and move forward, [00:03:07] but how could he not have all those ideas? In a way, he talks at one [00:03:11] point about suicidal ideation, and how could he not? He loses his [00:03:14] means reliving everything mother, rejected by his father, the father is completely [00:03:18] dismissed as a caregiver figure. Now, [00:03:23] besides, it's remembering what I think I had already asked you, I'm coming back to this topic because I find it interesting to understand why [00:03:27] a kid, now an adult, because all this happened to him when he was a [00:03:31] child, who rebuilt his life, who is fulfilling his [00:03:34] dream of being a runner, why does he decide to tell it now and [00:03:37] open this, uncover this pot [00:03:41] exposing his father with whom he has no relationship and who has another family, why [00:03:44] does he do it? Why do you think he decided to do this? It's a question [00:03:48] that, well, only he can know why now, but I think there's something [00:03:52] to this, right? The need to perhaps have [00:03:55] a certain sense of justice if things don't... [00:03:58] At some point, he was not listened to by [00:04:01] those people whom he [00:04:04] needed to take care of him. I also say, Claudia, [00:04:07] something somewhat paradoxical and [00:04:10] interpretable regarding [00:04:13] cease to be only what how for a long time he remained silent with the feeling [00:04:15] that no one was listening to him, and today he [00:04:18] publicizes it to many people at the same time with the [00:04:21] power that a medium has through which he comes out to speak, because he doesn't put it on his social [00:04:25] networks, he puts it in the medium that he knows will bounce everywhere. [00:04:28] A way perhaps to seek social condemnation as social condemnation [00:04:39] and and it repairs to talk, [00:04:43] to tell when one is a victim of violence, when one is a child, one day [00:04:47] to sit down and make it known, I don't know, I imagine him also telling it to his children [00:04:50] in the future, talking about it openly with his cousins, [00:04:53] it's healing, that's also something that [00:04:57] he will have to value what [00:05:00] effect this sharing this [00:05:03] story had on him. Clearly, he has processed it and [00:05:06] is much better and whole enough to [00:05:09] make this statement. Not telling his [00:05:13] story, he has to be whole to be able to do it, right? This is [00:05:16] something, I wanted to ask you, Clau, here, can the wounds of [00:05:19] a violent childhood [00:05:23] accompany a person throughout their life? [00:05:26] Yes, that doesn't mean that one [00:05:29] cannot separate, process, and the important thing is [00:05:32] here, I think the most important thing is not so much the [00:05:36] violence, but that in that movement he loses his [00:05:39] father. The painful thing is the loss of his father, who also [00:05:43] is the only reference he has left, right? He depends on this [00:05:46] person, not only to assist him with his basic [00:05:50] needs, but also because he is the most important emotional reference he [00:05:53] has left. In addition, he is the person he [00:05:57] should approach to accompany him in the grieving process [00:06:00] that implies the loss of his mom. So there are [00:06:04] so many losses that he has to deal with. He himself [00:06:07] says a slap, right? Physical pain [00:06:10] passes, this... [00:06:17] The father, shortly after, a couple of years later, but I mean, in the middle of everything that was this [00:06:21] violence that Valentín recounted in the note, [00:06:24] he started a [00:06:27] new relationship and has a woman who is living with [00:06:30] him, but according to the children, [00:06:34] this woman didn't listen to them either. I mean, why would someone turn [00:06:37] a deaf ear to something [00:06:39] like that? [00:06:42] Sometimes the denial, I mean, there are things that cannot be seen, they are very [00:06:45] painful. Not everyone is in a [00:06:48] position to do something [00:06:51] with these things that are so painful within the family, what the [00:06:55] grandparents did, they minimized it, right? How [00:06:58] complicated. Look, Claudia, I want to share with you and the [00:07:02] public what Gustavo Shankelevich said [00:07:05] moments ago on a phone call on [00:07:09] the program Intrusos de América. Go ahead. [00:07:13] to Franco and Franco didn't speak and [00:07:17] we passed in the car what I was telling you he sang [00:07:20] and didn't speak and we ate and he didn't speak, the [00:07:24] other week we went to eat again and he didn't speak and we went [00:07:27] and we had lunch and he didn't speak neither there nor back, [00:07:31] the third time I went he didn't speak and when I sat down to [00:07:35] have lunch with him I said Fran I am an old person, [00:07:38] something is happening here, you have to talk to me. [00:07:42] I mean, it can't be that suddenly you stopped talking to me, you have [00:07:46] to tell me what's happening, he says grandpa, what happens is that if you talk [00:07:50] to dad and I tell you this he will kill me, clear, when dad [00:07:53] found out that I asked you to spend a week at your [00:07:57] house, he beat me up, oh no, he knocked me unconscious with [00:08:00] blows, he knocked me unconscious with blows, he [00:08:03] told you, yes, he knocked me unconscious with blows, yes, eh, [00:08:06] and then well, no, no, I am telling this, I am very [00:08:10] sensitive, so... us too, [00:08:13] Gustavo, remembering this is very [00:08:17] difficult for me, we understand you, it's very difficult for me to remember [00:08:20] this, [00:08:23] well, but no, because it also [00:08:27] that came before, after the death, [00:08:30] yes, it's reliving, yes, it's reliving, [00:08:36] these kids suffered. When he told me that, I said, well, I'm going to [00:08:40] help you, I'm going to help you, and [00:08:43] time passed and [00:08:46] well, I contacted family lawyers and such to [00:08:49] see how it could be done. It wasn't easy, it wasn't easy, and [00:08:53] and the truth is that everything was, well, it wasn't [00:08:57] easy, it was difficult, but I said, [00:09:00] I have to help them, and when Valentín started with the [00:09:03] same thing, then I started taking them both out together [00:09:07] so that they could both talk. I wanted to hear them both together, and they [00:09:10] told me the same thing. [00:09:13] So, [00:09:15] well, Valentín told it, it's not a secret, Valentín told [00:09:19] it in [00:09:22] his note, that he wanted [00:09:26] to live with his mom, that he didn't want to be here anymore, he was [00:09:29] having a very hard time, he was in hell, and [00:09:33] they told me, he says, when you come home, he's [00:09:36] one person, and when you leave and the door closes, [00:09:39] it seems. [00:09:51] that your own dad knocks you out with a punch, and I say, [00:09:55] and that grandfather too, because everything is now told in a way that seems like [00:09:59] it happened quickly, but while those kids were in that ordeal for 2 years, [00:10:02] it's not so easy that just because you tell something, besides, [00:10:05] let's go back so many years ago, the justice system wasn't so inclined [00:10:09] to listen to the children. [00:10:15] And I can assure you that also losing your mom at such a [00:10:18] young age, that in itself is very traumatic [00:10:22] and not having, that is, no possibility [00:10:55] this story and we want to tell it because it is a scoop and they obviously didn't tell it [00:10:59] because Gustavo asked them not to and obviously sometimes you on the other side [00:11:02] ask yourself why don't they stop telling other things well [00:11:06] the family also has respect in the media and if they [00:11:10] ask you not to tell it no one tells it that's the reality that's why he gives the [00:11:14] phone call to Lucicha now talks to them I see [00:11:17] Meli moved I want to ask you Meli because you [00:11:21] went through a situation. I mean, what do you think [00:11:25] about, about look, this woman who was [00:11:29] there, and who turned a deaf ear to everything, she was [00:11:32] a witness to the things that were happening in that house, at least an accomplice, but [00:11:36] I mean, where is she, I mean, clarifying [00:11:40] that you are making a [00:11:42] parallelism, but saving the differences, well, I [00:11:46] happened to be a [00:11:49] stepmother, which is a horrible word, a mother to the [00:11:53] children of... [00:12:03] there was no violence, but this situation continues of feeling that you, as a final mother, even if they are not your children, understand that the worst thing that could happen to them has just happened, which is losing their mother in a, well, an unthinkable situation, a woman who enters healthy [00:12:05] to have a study, an [00:12:09] que les podía pasar que perder su mamá en un este [00:12:12] dead. Well, you have a [00:12:16] direct responsibility, the responsibility is unavoidable. I don't understand how unhealthy [00:12:19] the relationship has to be for you to go out with a guy [00:12:23] who does that to kids, it's [00:12:55] a red flag of another level. Your kids don't [00:12:59] stand by you and he beats them up, and the kids are saying he abuses them, I don't know what [00:13:03] he expects. What I saw is that they started dating, this [00:13:07] Miren, her name is Miren, she starts dating Darío [00:13:10] 2 years after Romina dies, so it coincides with [00:13:13] that moment when this kid starts [00:13:17] talking about what he was seeing, [00:13:20] she didn't tell her, he told his grandfather, but she could also have had her as an ally, no, that [00:13:23] María, Valentín says that she saw all this and turned [00:13:27] a deaf ear, so she decided not to intervene, [00:13:30] Claudia, we want to thank you once again for having had [00:13:34] the courtesy to attend to us, yes, thank you to you, we [00:13:38] hope to see you on the floor soon, in a little while we will come back to this topic, but [00:13:42] now a breaking news, you are unbeatable, you are on [00:13:45] Crónica. breaking [00:13:49] news, long lines for a [00:13:53] job, 10 blocks of [00:13:57] queue, there are people camping since [00:14:00] yesterday, and on the mobile we [00:14:03] have the [00:14:07] fox, Ema, welcome unbeatable, [00:14:09] sorry, how [00:14:16] are you, thank you very much, [00:14:18] Rulo, very well, luckily, listen, there were at [00:14:22] their most critical moment 12 [00:14:25] blocks of queue for 30 job positions for this [00:14:28] bazaar that will open on the 24th of this month, [00:14:32] in 12 days it opens and they already want to know how many resumes [00:14:35] they left since 10 in the morning [00:14:39] to surprise, and from what you are telling me it seems like more than 1, clear, [00:14:43] 1,270, no, impressive, [00:14:47] impressive, 1,270, it doesn't [00:14:50] end there, Rulo, [00:14:53] there are still 10 blocks of queue to leave [00:14:55] the resume here [00:14:58] in person, so another equal amount, at least, Loren, now if [00:15:01] 1200 is the number of resumes and 30 are the [00:15:05] job positions, it's a 3% chance of [00:15:08] getting a job, it's impressive, more or less, 3% is very low, the faith [00:15:11] you have to have to stand in that line for hours and hours and the [00:15:15] need to get a job, no, the real line of faith, exactly. [00:15:19] Yes, yes, because I mean, you have to feel very desperate, because [00:15:23] also, surely we have testimonies later, but in general, we usually have [00:15:26] testimonies where people say, I don't know, whatever they pay me [00:15:30] when they are asked about salary expectations. Clear, [00:15:33] sorry, can we talk to some people in the line? Let's [00:15:37] talk to the people, of course, here they need [00:15:40] stockers, cashiers, customer service and [00:15:44] administrators, among other things, let's see over here, how are you, [00:15:47] all good, no, thank you, at 8, at [00:15:50] 8, 8:30, very good, and when you saw all the people there, what [00:15:54] did you think, no, we'll have to wait for a while, [00:15:57] well, how much do you need to earn [00:16:00] and the minimum? For part [00:16:03] time, 580 580 thousand, yes, very good, [00:16:06] thanks, let's see here, hello, how are you, all good, [00:16:09] well, what kind of work would you like to do here? As a stocker, [00:16:13] stocker, yes, yes, and how long have you been looking for work? For three, four [00:16:17] months, you're already 22 years old, 22, yes, how much [00:16:20] do you need to earn as a minimum? And calculate [00:16:24] 700, 600 to contribute, help my family, do you live with [00:16:28] them? Yes, with my dad, and they need a hand, very good, let's see here, [00:16:31] what's your name? Julieta. Juli, how old are you? [00:16:35] 23. 23. And how long have you been looking for a job? For [00:16:39] about three months, more or less. Yes. And how much [00:16:43] do you need to earn as a minimum? And the minimum wage, I think [00:16:46] that's fine. How much is it? I don't remember now, [00:16:49] how much was it? Like 800, I think it was. Well, yes, I think I'm [00:16:52] fine with that. Good, thanks. I have a question, [00:16:56] how long have you been looking for a job? And I've been looking for a job for about 5 months. [00:16:59] And what was the last thing? Uh, carpentry. [00:17:03] Look at the line, luckily for all these people who are here, the [00:17:06] proposal is legal, the [00:17:37] job is legal, especially considering something that is a piece of data we learned this weekend, [00:17:41] there are 32,290 companies [00:17:44] that closed during Javier Miley's administration, 15,475 of [00:17:48] which closed this year, in 2026, meaning half [00:17:50] closed this year, [00:17:56] eh, well, we continue here with the guy, hello, how [00:17:59] are you? Lucio, you came very elegantly, thank you very much, little hat and [00:18:02] everything, how old are you, [00:18:05] Lucio, as of today, 20 years old, today is your birthday, today is my [00:18:08] birthday, congratulations, well, how much do you need [00:18:11] to earn as a minimum, [00:18:14] the truth is I think at least as such it could be between [00:18:18] 800 and 1,200 I could say to give a [00:18:20] rough estimate, you know what I mean, less than a million is already complicated, and [00:18:24] how long have you been looking for work, we've all been here [00:18:27] for a year, yes, since [00:18:31] December, and what could you work as, what do you see yourself doing [00:18:34] best? Uh, in what I studied, mostly quality control, [00:18:38] laboratories in companies in [00:18:42] general, uh, what can I say, production and [00:18:45] so on, and then if not, [00:18:48] bazaars and things like that, looking for the first thing I can find, thanks. Hello, what's your [00:18:52] name? Good, Lola, how old are you, Lola? Uh, 20 years old, just like [00:18:55] him. How much would you need to earn as a minimum? [00:18:58] And to help at home, and in total, a million, to be able to [00:19:02] survive, I mean, I'm with my parents, who are old, and they [00:19:06] also need help, it's help among everyone, of course, [00:19:09] obviously. And what happens if they call you on the phone and tell you, Lola, you got the job, but we [00:19:13] have to pay you 700,000? [00:19:17] It's to work, yes, and yes, even if it sounds [00:19:20] little, it's difficult to get a job, yes, a lot, and [00:19:24] we send applications to Merlo, to... anywhere, [00:19:27] we throw resumes everywhere in the province, yes, basically [00:19:30] I think all of Buenos Aires has my resume. [00:19:34] How much do you need to earn? And I think at least [00:19:38] 800, because also with family, yes, thank [00:19:41] God my family supports me, but well, there are expenses that [00:19:45] I can't afford, so we're in trouble, of course. Why should [00:19:48] the owner of this bazaar hire you? Uh, [00:19:51] because I'm a person who really likes to [00:19:55] learn, so I think I can handle myself more or less in any field, so even [00:19:58] if I don't have much experience because I graduated in December, I have all the [00:20:01] willingness to improve. Thanks, [00:20:04] eh. Well, let's continue with these kids here. [00:20:08] How old are you, 18, like many others? No, I'm 22. 22, yes. [00:20:11] Well, what was your last job? And it was [00:20:15] a company [00:20:19] eh e-commerce, so and how long have you been unemployed? About a month [00:20:23] more or less, so I'm there with family and how much did you need? [00:20:26] From 800 to 1 million, I earned 1,200, that was my [00:20:29] maximum, well, there you go, well, so far the [00:20:33] range is that, they need between 800 thousand and a million, [00:20:37] let's see here, what's your name? I'm not going to talk, [00:20:41] well, this way we're going to see, hello, how are you, all good, hello, all [00:20:45] good, well, what's your name, Juliana, Juliana, [00:20:48] how much do you need to earn with this job? [00:20:51] Uh, the truth is I don't know how much [00:20:55] the basic price is, but but well, it's legal, which is [00:20:59] quite a lot, right? Yes, obviously, especially since I'm a mother of four children and I take [00:21:02] care of them literally alone, uh, with [00:21:05] I wouldn't know how to tell you, but whatever it is helps me, already [00:21:09] with a legal job, a mother and four children, exactly, I take care of them [00:21:13] alone, literally, I take care of them alone, how much do you need [00:21:16] to earn? From a million upwards, so everything [00:21:20] plus rent or is the house yours? Luckily I own my house, [00:21:23] but well, you know that a million is nothing, it's [00:21:25] nothing with four children, it's nothing, especially since I take care of them [00:21:29] literally alone, how do you do it? [00:21:33] Magic, I do magic, are you unemployed now? [00:21:37] Uh, I'm working as a cleaner, I don't earn [00:21:40] much, but [00:21:43] well, that plus what I get for my children, which is a help, I don't live [00:21:46] off that, would you keep this job [00:21:50] too? If I can, yes, if not, [00:21:54] I mean, if this job where I earn more, I would leave the other one, [00:21:57] but the truth is I have to feed four children who depend on me [00:22:01] literally, so your current situation requires you to have two [00:22:04] jobs, uh, yes, exactly, in fact I need [00:22:08] two jobs to be able to cover the expenses of my children, who are all [00:22:11] minors. Exactly, thank you, hello, what's your [00:22:15] name, hello, how are you, Flor, what time did you arrive, Flor? I arrived at 8 in [00:22:19] the morning and tell me about the panorama, how many blocks of line at that [00:22:22] moment? Uh, [00:22:26] blocks, yes, you saw so many people and you said I have to stay [00:22:30] anyway, uh, yes, yes, totally, how much do you need [00:22:32] to earn? A million and up too. [00:22:36] Thanks, no, well, a [00:22:39] million is what this girl needs to make ends meet with this job. [00:22:42] But look, the particularity, unlike other days, is [00:22:46] that in this line of hope there are a lot of [00:22:52] older people, surely as the afternoon goes on, making the [00:22:55] notes, we will also find older people, but what you see here [00:22:59] is a majority of young people as in this case, how old are you, thanks, [00:23:02] 26, how old, 26, 26, and how long have you been looking for [00:23:06] work, not for a day, oh, a day, you've been [00:23:10] unemployed for a day, of course, you've been unemployed for a very short time, no, but I don't want to. What [00:23:13] did you work in, thanks, very kind, well, we continue [00:23:17] here, hello girls, how are you, how long [00:23:20] have you been here, uh, about 5 hours [00:23:23] more or less, well, and how long have you been looking for work? [00:23:26] About a year more or less, what was the [00:23:30] last thing? 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