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[00:00:00] is a medicine and in the end, you're not feeding it, you're nourishing it,
[00:00:03] exactly, correct. You just mentioned where the raids were carried out
[00:00:07] so far. More raids will continue, but so far, in the autonomous city of
[00:00:10] Buenos Aires, it's in the province of Buenos Aires, which is about six
[00:00:14] kilometers. You have San Vicente, La Nuca, Cañuelas, Roque
[00:00:17] Sáenz Peña. You have Roque Sáenz Peña, which is Chaco. You
[00:00:21] sent trucks. We just talked to Carlos Pas. You sent trucks,
[00:00:25] Lucas. You don't take this in a car. You sent trucks all over the
[00:00:28] country, those trucks.
[00:00:37] that they decide for the cheapest. The
[00:00:40] immediately to the hospital. that anyone who has been a parent knows, of cross the entire country. Uh, careful, it's a big, very big gang that can corrupt. First, the truck has to ask you what kind of products you're carrying, and then you have to go with the route sheet, and you have to show it to the
[00:00:44] gendarmerie. It has to cross through a lot of crossings where you
[00:00:48] have to show what kind of product. So, and
[00:00:51] what does the guide tell you, that guide? And that you're carrying milk.
[00:00:55] Clear, but, but it's fine,
[00:00:59] years old, and what else is happening with what but if it says Sancor, they have to ask you for the invoice.
[00:01:07] one after another, all yours,
[00:01:09] Rezano,
[00:01:12] come on, yes, let's see, also, keep in mind what I said before about one of
[00:01:16] the substances that are included in this powdered milk, which is what they
[00:01:20] tell us, was precisely one of those that most affected
[00:01:24] each of the babies who had to be
[00:01:27] hospitalized in the area, and they have
[00:01:30] indeed found that
[00:01:35] because she would leave them there, uh, with substance, and what Lucas said is decisive regarding the fact that beyond diarrhea and
[00:01:39] other consequences, the desire to cause
[00:01:42] malnutrition in children because it didn't feed them. Many have also
[00:01:46] had to resort to a nearby health center
[00:01:49] drove the investigation of as a result of this. How horrible, man, how horrible. You were there
[00:01:52] a little while ago, and neighbors already came to tell you
[00:01:55] what the effects of this
[00:01:59] were, unfortunately. That it's not food, that it's crazy in the children
[00:02:02] of the neighborhood. How are you? All good? What are you doing, Tomi? Good,
[00:02:06] good, today, today alone. Uh, they're not grandmothers. Yes, very worried, man.
[00:02:09] This is horrible, uh. Is this expired milk or is it
[00:02:14] take on the situation and stood up in defense of milk? It's not milk, it's not milk. They put the packaging of a brand.
[00:02:16] It's not milk. It contains anything inside. It's not adulterated milk, folks, it's not
[00:02:20] milk, meaning they add
[00:02:22] components to something to make it look like milk, but
[00:02:26] it's not milk, you understand? And you're giving it to a baby from zero to
[00:02:30] 6 months. This is something we don't know what it is. Babies started getting
[00:02:34] intoxicated. Hundreds of intoxicated babies, my
[00:02:38] God, who are obviously
[00:02:40] pouring water on the floor, but they sold it to you with hypersensitive, hyper-vulnerable. Intoxication can cost them their life.
[00:02:44] It's a human being. They dehydrate in a
[00:02:47] second. And where was this milk sold? In Cordoba, in Federal
[00:02:51] Capital, in Chaco, in the province of Buenos Aires, Quilmes, Lanús.
[00:02:55] Everywhere. In what kind of stores? In all types of stores, not in the big
[00:02:58] stores that... not the big supermarket chains that
[00:03:02] still charge whatever they want, right?
[00:03:05] Yes, but do you know why I ask you? Because at one
[00:03:09] time, uh, I did research for
[00:03:12] a brand, yes, Reckitt Benckiser, a brand that
[00:03:16] makes floor cleaning products, among other things. And I had to
[00:03:20] investigate the Chinese supermarkets. The
[00:03:23] Chinese will get
[00:03:27] get to the manufacturer. What they tell us here in angry, no, because they have a chamber, but in that case, there was. This reached the
[00:03:31] criminal justice system, there were
[00:03:33] convictions, everything, and they sold adulterated
[00:03:36] floor cleaning products. Obviously, justice acted immediately because the right to
[00:03:39] health is a good thing, but one thing is a hygiene product, and another is
[00:03:43] a food product, medicinal, because Sancor
[00:03:47] supposedly makes it with Remes, meaning these are two companies
[00:03:50] that, of course, you have to have, let's say, the authorization. It's almost like a
[00:03:54] medicine, you understand? Not what those products are worth, no, it's
[00:03:57] worth 40,000 pesos, the original product.
[00:04:00] It's $40, and they charge you, they charge you the same, but no, they charge you less, they
[00:04:03] charge you 29 pesos, 1000, 30% less, there's the
[00:04:07] difference, yes, and well, we have to take action against the
[00:04:10] supermarkets first, but we have to get to the producer. You know that in that case I could never
[00:04:14] get to the manufacturer, and you start getting into that world and you find out
[00:04:18] that there's first-class champagne that is also adulterated, there are
[00:04:21] alcoholic beverages that are adulterated, there's an entire illegal
[00:04:25] industry. I'm telling you one thing, if you adulterate an alcoholic
[00:04:28] beverage, you're giving it to an adult. It won't harm them, it won't kill
[00:04:31] you, uh. In Brazil, people died from cachaça that couldn't be used to make
[00:04:35] caipirinhas a few months ago in the summer because it was
[00:04:39] adulterated cachaça.
[00:04:41] Anything. Well, but without going any further, do you remember Sol Cuyano in the 90s,
[00:04:45] in the Matanza area, that killed more than 60 people?
[00:04:48] It killed them. Yes, Sol
[00:04:50] years, you can take the notebook Cuyano with Mancero was the adulterated wine that instead of having
[00:04:54] ethyl alcohol, had rubbing alcohol. Ah, it turns out that the laboratory had made a mistake
[00:04:57] at that time; instead of giving it the rubbing alcohol with the
[00:05:00] light blue dye to identify it, they sent it
[00:05:03] transparent. They adulterated it, stretched the wine, and 60 people died, not to
[00:05:07] mention the people who went blind, who lost their sense of smell, their
[00:05:10] taste. It's good, what you say, one thing is an adult, obviously it's
[00:05:13] very serious, another thing is a baby, a newborn. From
[00:05:17] whatever perspective you look at it, at the very least, you're starving them. You think you're giving them an
[00:05:20] intoxicating food, unless it's you're
[00:05:24] intoxicating them and you're starving them. 20
[00:05:26] hospitalized, it says the DIN for, for me there are more, uh, for
[00:05:30] me there are more, for me there are more. We are receiving messages from all over the country.
[00:05:34] A grandmother just spoke who said that her
[00:05:37] grandchild was hospitalized, uh, and there is already a statement from the Ministry
[00:05:40] regarding diarrhea with perhaps bloody diarrhea.
[00:05:44] Of course, but folks, come on, you're giving it to a baby. That's a symptom
[00:05:49] taking their child
[00:05:52] The thing is, you're never going to find this out because what does
[00:05:56] a doctor do? They say, "Well, what do they eat? What do they eat?" Not
[00:06:00] milk. Sancor milk can't be milk. They're going to say milk can't be
[00:06:04] it. There's something strange. There's something. Milk that causes allergies. I mean, in this case, thinking that the
[00:06:07] doctor believes that the milk is the one that is appropriate and doesn't have any
[00:06:11] idea, obviously, of what it is and withdraws the milk.
[00:06:14] No, but, but well, the truth is that it's worrying. There has to be a
[00:06:17] statement. I mean, at least the products should be withdrawn. Unfortunately, Sancor will also have to
[00:06:21] pay, and for the moment, it shouldn't be commercialized until Sancor files a
[00:06:25] complaint. Sancor files a complaint because
[00:06:27] lawsuits started coming in.
[00:06:31] Of course, that's been going on for a long time. The number is
[00:06:34] a scandal, it's a scandal, the number of victims. Well, Tomy,
[00:06:38] thanks, uh, see you tomorrow. Let's go live.
[00:06:43] Matías Rezano is here, right, Mati, dear, good evening, here
[00:06:46] Diego and Jorge.
[00:06:49] Diego, good evening. Jorge, good evening. It's a pleasure to greet you. We are
[00:06:52] located in San
[00:06:55] Francisco Solano, which is one of the towns that
[00:06:57] also
[00:07:01] Prosecutor's Office number two, because it was one of the first places discovered
[00:07:05] where a space was stored a few meters away,
[00:07:09] sold in a commercial establishment, the
[00:07:11] units of adulterated milk. It was one of the
[00:07:15] first places that led to the investigation, as
[00:07:18] I said before, after the complaint from the
[00:07:21] company that warned that this powdered
[00:07:25] milk was being sold with its packaging, with substances that
[00:07:28] generated totally
[00:07:31] dangerous effects on babies under 6 months. Did you confront the
[00:07:34] store, ask them for the phone number of the wholesaler who sold it to
[00:07:38] them? No, that's what you have to do, no, because then they start talking to you.
[00:07:42] I repeat it and take responsibility. I once did an
[00:07:45] investigation on a product that was not as sensitive as this, it was a
[00:07:49] floor cleaning product, which was obviously like
[00:07:53] the original product. It killed you. No,
[00:07:56] it didn't kill you. In the case of milk, it does. Now, they never got to the
[00:07:59] producer, because, well, you go as a good neighbor, asking questions, playing
[00:08:02] dumb, and obviously they start talking to you in Chinese that you don't understand, and you never
[00:08:06] get anywhere. I think there are more businesses
[00:08:10] than just Chinese supermarkets that sold it, if they sell it, uh, perhaps
[00:08:14] in this case,
[00:08:17] no, we arrived at the place where
[00:08:21] this space was, which is a house,
[00:08:24] uh, totally closed, but it seemed like it
[00:08:28] was under construction, in an advanced state of progress, rather, but inside
[00:08:31] it was a place for storing these
[00:08:34] milks, uh, these boxes that contained powdered milk.
[00:08:38] A few meters away, the neighbors told us, is the
[00:08:41] supermarket. I approached, there were no police vehicles or anything,
[00:08:46] and the movement was completely normal, and
[00:08:49] the neighbors told us that it had been a place of raids, which surprised
[00:08:52] me greatly. So, the merchandise was not there. In total, there are five
[00:08:55] detainees. In that supermarket, the merchandise was not there.
[00:08:58] No, supposedly not, but it had
[00:09:02] been there, it had been there, and at a price that
[00:09:05] was striking and that was obviously attractive for those
[00:09:08] who needed to buy that milk, compared to the
[00:09:11] normal price of the real product. Yes, did you ask the manager
[00:09:15] where the milk came from? Because obviously they're going to pretend they bought it as if it were original,
[00:09:19] "I have no idea what explanation they had." First, they were of
[00:09:22] Chinese nationality, and obviously
[00:09:25] we tried to do it with a neighbor, they said
[00:09:28] that they are understanding what we are
[00:09:31] expressing.
[00:09:34] Anyway, we are seeing here, Mati, here we are
[00:09:37] seeing a business, right? A Chinese market, but we also have to take into
[00:09:41] account that many times this is sold and commercialized on social networks, for example on
[00:09:45] Marketplace. Surely the price is attractive, but it's not
[00:09:49] how they obtained the merchandise, how the businesses obtained
[00:09:52] the merchandise. They contacted the supposed distributors
[00:09:56] through social networks and through applications,
[00:09:58] supposedly
[00:10:01] not so well-known, but that marked the record of this
[00:10:05] presumed distributor to deliver. They say it's also on MercadoLibre,
[00:10:08] I don't know if you were able to gather
[00:10:11] that.
[00:10:14] No, let's see, what we understood was that it was through
[00:10:17] social networks, mainly Facebook and related accounts
[00:10:21] that have to do with the commercialization of merchandise.
[00:10:25] And some applications also through
[00:10:28] precisely, uh, a business that buys, tells
[00:10:32] another to buy this. This was also more of a
[00:10:35] diffusing line to be able to achieve this distribution. It's that they go, well,
[00:10:38] we would have to see what channel Sancor has for the
[00:10:41] distribution of products, if it depends on them. I understand that
[00:10:45] yes, they have their own sellers, if they
[00:10:48] outsource, no, to know what the distribution channel is. But one understands the
[00:10:51] merchant, uh, another distributor comes, and it's a
[00:10:55] product 30% cheaper, and it makes sense, right,
[00:10:59] that they decide, especially with how things are,
[00:11:02] thing is that it has to call your attention, right? If one sells it to you at
[00:11:06] 30 and the other sells it to you at 20, and
[00:11:09] something strange, something strange has to be there. We have to see what
[00:11:13] responsibility they don't attribute to the business for selling a
[00:11:17] product that is fake, when I imagine they're going to say, "No, I bought it
[00:11:20] legally." Then we'll have to see if there was an invoice and
[00:11:24] a series of... tax issues, no.
[00:11:28] Yes, well, but let's see, regarding what you say, which is
[00:11:31] correct, there are five detainees, two of Chinese nationality
[00:11:35] and corresponding to one of the supermarkets. They are trying to
[00:11:38] determine precisely the level of participation and incidence in this
[00:11:41] operation, in this operation, because they are even
[00:11:45] linking them as having knowledge of what they were
[00:11:48] commercializing. There are others who didn't, there are others who, attracted by
[00:11:52] the value that was much cheaper, less
[00:11:55] expensive than buying it from the real
[00:11:59] company, bought it directly. Well, uh, they resorted
[00:12:02] to these methods, including also, what some
[00:12:06] of the neighbors told us was that they saw in the
[00:12:09] market that the value of the
[00:12:12] product was half the real value, half.
[00:12:16] Well, that's already an alert.
[00:12:19] I mean, if it costs half, well, you have to ask why. Many
[00:12:22] times, products like
[00:12:25] chocolate, bread, whatever, are sold past their expiration date, and there are
[00:12:29] discounts even in large supermarket chains. But well, in this case, you see the
[00:12:32] date, it has a long expiration date, at half price,
[00:12:36] and you have to ask yourself some questions regarding what you also have to read, because I'm receiving
[00:12:40] information that the packaging of this
[00:12:43] powdered milk had spelling errors. Ah,
[00:12:47] well, spelling errors, for example, instead of saying "advertencia"
[00:12:50] (warning), it said "adventencia" (adventage), instead of saying
[00:12:55] "de oleico" (oleic), which is a term for this
[00:12:58] type of product, it said "ólico" (olic). Of course,
[00:13:02] if you read it closely, you might find the trick. When I did the investigation of
[00:13:06] this cleaning product, I'm going to name it, it's not advertising or
[00:13:09] anything, it was a Procenx, there was an entire
[00:13:12] instruction manual to detect, let's say, what was the original product and what was the
[00:13:16] fake from the packaging, the bottle, the cap, the
[00:13:20] details of the cap, what was, let's say, the
[00:13:23] labeling, especially that was poorly glued, where
[00:13:27] the product's expiration date, the
[00:13:30] serial number, were listed. So, well, we'll have to deal with
[00:13:34] this. Now, what we have to go after is the producer, right,
[00:13:38] Mati? We have to find out who produced it, if it was the Chinese. If they want to call the Chinese
[00:13:41] Supermarket Association to make a rectification and clarify something,
[00:13:45] let them do it, uh. Obviously, we always give the right to reply
[00:13:48] here, but, but well, we have to
[00:13:52] the area where we are located is that
[00:13:55] sorry, Diego, that the place where it precisely
[00:13:58] acted as a storage space is one of the many
[00:14:02] points that was used as such, not only here in this
[00:14:05] area where we are located, but throughout the
[00:14:09] Southern Conurbano and even in the Federal Capital. Therefore,
[00:14:13] it is presumed that this would not be the main point or the starting
[00:14:16] point, but one of the many from
[00:14:19] which the merchandise emerged to be able to be
[00:14:22] distributed to the closest stores in this area where we are
[00:14:26] located. Perfect, Mati, hold on a minute there. If you have any news, call us,
[00:14:30] we're going to urgent
[00:14:31] information.
[00:14:37] Breaking news. 13 minutes past 9
[00:14:40] PM. Juanito has arrived. Dr.
[00:14:44] Sonia Nano, the criminology graduate,
[00:14:47] Nani, Nani, Nano is a
[00:14:50] friend, Dr. Sonia Nani, the graduate, and this is the
[00:14:53] topic.
[00:14:57] Pimp, minor went to report that her mother was
[00:14:59] prostituting her.
[00:15:03] She narrated the encounters with the neighbors for
[00:15:06] money. You'll be amazed by the case.
[00:15:10] They raided the neighbors and caught the alleged
[00:15:13] clients, all abusers, no, look,
[00:15:17] they are between 52 and 78 years old. The
[00:15:20] girl is 16 and was abused since she was 11.
[00:15:24] Testimony from a neighbor, she traded her for a
[00:15:28] pipe hit, the devastation of
[00:15:30] drugs.
[00:15:37] Right? In video and live, we go with Matías López, who is working in the
[00:15:40] vicinity of the place. Mati, my dear, how
[00:15:42] are you?
[00:15:44] Uh, good evening. Surprised by this case, but also here to tell people the seriousness
[00:15:48] of this situation. Many times when we talk about victims of
[00:15:51] human trafficking and prostitution, uh, we think of those Hollywood scenes,
[00:15:55] right? Where, well, they come in a white van, they kidnap them, they
[00:15:59] take them to another country by different means, it could be by river or air,
[00:16:03] but in this case, no. We are talking about a mother
[00:16:07] of 36 years old, if you can call her a mother, who
[00:16:10] prostituted her daughter, who is currently 16, but this didn't
[00:16:14] start now, it started a long time ago, it's long-standing, and according to
[00:16:17] neighbors and also information gathered
[00:16:20] by investigators, apparently it would have
[00:16:23] started with this
[00:16:26] modality of handing her over
[00:16:29] to the neighbors, some very
[00:16:32] perverse neighbors, at 11
[00:16:36] is being reported? Where, well, precisely at the scene of the crime,
[00:16:40] the investigators were able
[00:16:43] in principle to realize what was happening due to some kind of
[00:16:46] complaint, but then the neighbors also reported that they heard
[00:16:50] aggressions, that they heard screams, and this caught attention, but there are
[00:16:54] four neighbors arrested, all very old,
[00:16:57] who were with a girl of only 11 years old, who
[00:17:01] apparently the modality, all
[00:17:03] abusers, the modality was to take her
[00:17:07] to the house of these neighbors. The story is really very strong
[00:17:12] her, with the 11-year-old girl, for half an hour and then she would pick her up,
[00:17:16] basically like an appointment. It's truly terrible to tell this
[00:17:19] situation.
[00:17:21] This thing about it being for a pipe hit, I mean, it doesn't matter that
[00:17:25] it was for drugs, but then the rates, the
[00:17:29] rates that could be ascertained,
[00:17:32] uh, well, this could also be the pipe hit thing, but the
[00:17:36] rates that could have been reached have nothing to do with
[00:17:39] other criminal activities. They tell me between 1000 and
[00:17:42] 15. It's very aberrant because
[00:17:45] clearly, uh, a pipe hit for 10, 15 pesos you can get
[00:17:48] it, so surely these people who paid her very
[00:17:52] little money knew that this woman, uh, did
[00:17:55] this because of her addictions, but also because of the perverse
[00:17:59] mind of this whole scheme, both
[00:18:03] the mother, of course, both the mother and the people who accessed this
[00:18:06] situation. Mati, give me a second. Micaela is here,
[00:18:10] she is a neighbor of this monster, no, because the truth is that calling her a mother
[00:18:14] doesn't even fit the name, mother or progenitor,
[00:18:17] no, a monster who prostituted her daughter from 11 to 16
[00:18:21] years old until the girl escaped and decided to report her.
[00:18:24] Uh, Micaela, good evening. I'm Diego Estévez, I'm with the entire
[00:18:28] Tierra de Nadie team. How are you?
[00:18:31] Good evening, well,
[00:18:34] content
[00:18:36] from the neighborhood. Uh, we are neighbors from here in the neighborhood, well, we
[00:18:39] in
[00:18:41] our time there was an episode with this same
[00:18:44] person, with Cynthia, who
[00:18:47] uh was driving around in a car,
[00:18:51] picking up underage girls, at which time this
[00:18:54] neighborhood was just being built, this neighborhood was being
[00:18:58] formed, we were very much in the dark, so at that time they were driving around in a
[00:19:02] white car, they were two men of Paraguayan
[00:19:05] nationality. Paraguayan nationality who picked up
[00:19:09] minors, yes, with another girl, her
[00:19:11] too, and they picked up the
[00:19:15] girls, of which two escaped, which is
[00:19:19] my neighbor around the corner, and then, well, obviously
[00:19:23] the girls, uh, ran after the cars, the cars drove off
[00:19:26] running, and then since we had a neighborhood group,
[00:19:30] we communicated at that time about security, because
[00:19:34] we were very, very much in the dark, this neighborhood was just being built.
[00:19:38] After that, they ended up telling us that they were also doing
[00:19:41] exactly the same thing in the
[00:19:42] Millennium neighborhood.
[00:19:45] Did they seduce her with some pretext or did they directly kidnap her? No, the
[00:19:49] girl has, the girl has, we know the girl,
[00:19:52] we personally talked to her a couple of times when
[00:19:56] she was on the street, always asking for
[00:19:58] which the girl,
[00:20:02] Cynthia, who is the mother of the girl, we've always known the girl since she was little, always
[00:20:05] with her, and well,
[00:20:09] uh, the girl is honestly a girl who has
[00:20:11] problems, you can tell she has problems, she's very
[00:20:15] shy, she's a very quiet girl, poor thing, imagine, she
[00:20:18] sent her to buy drugs, she sent her to buy drugs, she
[00:20:22] sent her to ask for men's
[00:20:25] houses, my God, the ordeal that this
[00:20:29] girl had to live, not at the hands of her
[00:20:32] mother,
[00:20:34] she is not from the neighborhood, she was previously
[00:20:38] We don't know what her cause was at the time,
[00:20:41] but well, she got involved with a guy who was also
[00:20:45] detained, and then they both get out of jail and
[00:20:48] end up becoming a couple and they come
[00:20:51] to the neighborhood to live on this side because she is from La
[00:20:54] Plata and well, here she
[00:20:58] never talked about her life or that she had a family or anything. Yes, we knew she was from La
[00:21:02] Plata, that she had been in prison, we don't know the cause, but
[00:21:05] uh, that incident had already happened, that she was picking up girls.
[00:21:09] We had, they reported her, is there a report
[00:21:12] here? How did they report this?
[00:21:16] Yes, she has, she has the report. They reported her because perhaps they were going
[00:21:19] to pick up the two girls and the girls ran,
[00:21:21] uh, and yes, the report was made. After that, let's say,
[00:21:25] a few days passed, and they found out where Cynthia
[00:21:29] was from, and they went to look for her at her house and took her out. Well, among
[00:21:33] neighbors, all women, they went and took her out. They dragged
[00:21:37] her by the hair from there, from the house, well, and they handed her over to the police. The police took her away, and they
[00:21:41] took those men with the white car. The thing is that they ended up releasing her
[00:21:44] a few days later. Oh, they released her. They themselves released her.
[00:21:48] And then, well, we were telling the whole situation to her because
[00:21:52] they were driving around this neighborhood, driving around and around and around. We were looking for the
[00:21:56] white car and we didn't know where it was. And then they were sending
[00:21:59] messages from another neighborhood that it was in the other neighborhood, that the car was also picking up
[00:22:03] girls. So the thing is that we were waiting and waiting until
[00:22:06] we found it here. That's when we found the car, we started
[00:22:10] running, and it drove away very fast. Then we found out
[00:22:13] that she was driving, meaning the police didn't do anything. The police, well, when they should have
[00:22:17] done it, they didn't because they released her. However, you were the
[00:22:21] ones who insisted, the mothers, no, the
[00:22:23] women of the neighborhood, of course. Of course.
[00:22:27] Yes, uh, I was telling him that I would like
[00:22:31] them to come here where we are, that from where the incident happened to
[00:22:34] where we are, it's a new neighborhood, in which everyone here knows her for
[00:22:38] that, for that, for that sequence that happened, so
[00:22:41] we are very aware of what happened here with those girls
[00:22:45] that we ran after because here, here honestly there wasn't
[00:22:49] even a police car passing at that time. We, the truth is, we were
[00:22:53] adrift in the dark, if it hadn't been for some neighbors who
[00:22:56] always were the ones who took action, women usually
[00:23:00] are the ones who step up, they
[00:23:04] the girl, of all the girls, no.
[00:23:07] we started there asking for the lights and all other things
[00:23:11] so uh that's where they at least brought the
[00:23:15] lighting here after that incident but well she was involved
[00:23:18] also she continued exactly with her exact economy she continued with the
[00:23:21] girl, that is, everyone saw that she took the girl, that
[00:23:25] she took her shopping, everyone knew, but well,
[00:23:28] that is, as always, nobody, everyone talks, everyone talks, but nobody wants
[00:23:32] to wants to do anything as it is from here, if today
[00:23:35] nobody does anything, she will go out again,
[00:23:38] she will end up alone, give me a second Micaela, because
[00:23:42] we just showed the photo of the detainees, we are going to
[00:23:46] name them eh, these monsters, you see all four of them, exactly.
[00:23:50] mother and and three three men
[00:23:53] not men, three three people, five neighbors
[00:23:56] and ah five, sorry, there are five in total we are talking about four neighbors and mother mother
[00:24:00] well she is subject to this criminal case for sexual exploitation
[00:24:04] pimping and reduction to servitude with her daughter
[00:24:07] the prosecutor's office number seven and the guarantee judge number three intervene, which
[00:24:11] belongs to the judicial department of Rodríguez Moreno, a very good job is being carried
[00:24:15] out by the judicial authorities regarding this case because I believe that for
[00:24:19] the penalty, the type of act, this woman will remain detained for a
[00:24:22] long time, with respect to the male detainees who were
[00:24:26] accused or indicated of having sexually
[00:24:30] abused this minor by paying a sum that ranged between 10,000 and
[00:24:33] 5,000 pesos, they have names and surnames, pay attention in case it's someone from the neighborhood and
[00:24:37] you know him, we are talking about Pedro Juan Villalva Lugo,
[00:24:41] 52 years old, he is the first detainee, the second detainee is
[00:24:44] Julio César Núñez, 57 years old, the
[00:24:47] third detainee is Juan Alberto,
[00:24:51] 73 years old, and the fourth detainee is a 78-year-old
[00:24:54] man, eh, whose name is Expédito
[00:24:58] Expédito Emógenes Carrizo
[00:25:00] 78, in the case not in the case of conviction to the house with
[00:25:04] 78 years, no, unfortunately in principle, yes, it is always
[00:25:07] a possibility, it is not a duty for the
[00:25:11] judge, oh no, it is not established
[00:25:14] as a possibility to evaluate exactly
[00:25:18] due to age, but it does not apply to these five and not
[00:25:22] even minimum corruption of minors, if the rest is proven, it
[00:25:25] is with aggravating circumstances,
[00:25:29] no, for being a minor, for being
[00:25:32] precisely a difference in age, eh, there is
[00:25:34] article 119 in that case goes from 5 to 15
[00:25:40] of the progenitor and look for the contacts
[00:25:43] and and reconstruct well who were the ones who
[00:25:47] corrupted this minor for 5 years, right? Because it was between
[00:25:50] 11 and 16, so that they all go to jail, no, no, even
[00:25:54] mother, even mother, because here
[00:25:57] mother has to justify that she had nothing to do with this
[00:26:00] matter, forget it, if all the neighbors say that it was her who
[00:26:04] promoted the corruption of her
[00:26:07] daughter, it is not called child prostitution, mother was the one who
[00:26:10] delivered her for child sexual exploitation with those
[00:26:14] four neighbors, it is not ruled out that she could have been delivered to
[00:26:18] more neighbors, that is why both cellular telephony is being investigated
[00:26:21] and a social or psychosocial autopsy is being carried out in what
[00:26:25] would be the environment of this woman, this child, and the
[00:26:28] possible people who have consumed this sexual abuse by.
[00:26:32] Let's ask Micaela, I think it would be good if they summoned the neighbors
[00:26:36] to justice so that they begin to identify Micaela,
[00:26:40] do you have these monsters identified who went
[00:26:43] and abused the
[00:26:46] girl? Uh, yes, I am listening to what
[00:26:50] they are saying and the truth is that there are
[00:26:53] many more and obviously it's not just that simple
[00:26:57] here there are several several lively ones who are lost in the pipe issue and
[00:27:01] the truth is that it is impressive. How you see her with
[00:27:03] the children getting into houses, doing and one
[00:27:07] drugged, one being drugged, one does not go around with the
[00:27:10] children, they go around as if
[00:27:13] nothing, they go to houses, they get into anywhere and they have relationships anywhere
[00:27:16] for money, for drugs and well, the children are always
[00:27:20] at stake here, nobody does anything, here
[00:27:24] we are automatically alone, social
[00:27:27] worker does not exist, nothing exists here for us,
[00:27:30] that is, uh... as I say, uh, it's
[00:27:34] sad to see the situation of addiction that exists, yes, but
[00:27:38] also uh the risk that children run knowing that they are
[00:27:42] here there are girls who well I'm not going to name her but there are girls
[00:27:45] who have had babies while lost in the pipe
[00:27:49] and and directly they give them away, they give them to some man they
[00:27:52] were with or
[00:27:55] that's how they go around, recently a lot of girls from here also were taken
[00:27:59] who took photos and
[00:28:06] the girls took photos and sold the content but someone managed
[00:28:09] them and well, mothers are all
[00:28:13] lost in the pipe, so this
[00:28:17] is already something to see on the street like this, it's the country that
[00:28:20] politicians don't want to see, right? And surely Micaela, the issue of the pipe, the pipe
[00:28:24] they buy it somewhere, they sell the pipe there in the neighborhood too because we are
[00:28:28] talking about a set of crimes, not only
[00:28:32] you find it everywhere, that is, it is not in a specific place, but today
[00:28:36] you find it everywhere, that is, everyone knows, everyone
[00:28:39] knows about the bunkers that are near here, moreover, the girl was taken to the
[00:28:43] bunkers and left for two or three days, eh, according to comments from
[00:28:46] other people too, and the stories of other people too that they
[00:28:50] took her, she took her to the road and they came to pick her up in a
[00:28:53] in a in a car and they took
[00:28:57] her and she came with little tubes in her hand, the
[00:29:00] girl was taken for a few days. We understand, don't we? What we are
[00:29:04] saying, I mean, I think it's worth highlighting it because
[00:29:08] in this country where everything happens, perhaps one normalizes
[00:29:11] certain situations, what it is saying is that minors are used
[00:29:14] as a commodity, if it hadn't happened to this girl who
[00:29:18] herself started to escape from her house because of a beating
[00:29:22] her mother gave her for not wanting to do a
[00:29:25] service, which ended up in, resulted
[00:29:28] in her escaping from her house and leaving. That is,
[00:29:32] they left the girl, let's repeat it, no,
[00:29:36] I think it makes sense to repeat it and make it very clear,
[00:29:39] they took the girl to a bunker, they left
[00:29:43] her for two to three days sexually abusing her,
[00:29:46] sexually exploiting her, and the girl after having
[00:29:49] gone through all that situation came back with the
[00:29:52] drugs, obviously that was the currency they gave to
[00:29:56] the mother, eh, so that the mother, no, they already arranged with mom, they already arranged with
[00:29:59] mom, they already gave it to mom, beforehand they gave her the, they
[00:30:03] gave it to mom, she put her in the car and it's the same, the order of the factors does not alter the product
[00:30:07] here, eh, it's the same if it was before or after, that is, and the
[00:30:10] five people who are detained are not only
[00:30:14] those, there are many more, many
[00:30:17] more older men, many more, all in the neighborhood,
[00:30:19] and yes, the woman was always here in the
[00:30:23] neighborhood with the girl and she didn't leave the girl alone
[00:30:27] or with anyone, she didn't let her talk to anyone, she always had her at her mercy at
[00:30:31] 2 or 3 in the morning walking with the girl everywhere, besides, not
[00:30:34] only that, the mother also went around the neighborhood tracking
[00:30:38] the neighbors, Micaela, just as you tell me about Nancy, the mother of this
[00:30:42] child, are there other mothers whom you identify with
[00:30:45] names or nicknames? Her name is Cintia, Cintia,
[00:30:49] Cintia, mother, Cintia, mother, exactly, just like
[00:30:53] her that you identify, do you also identify other mothers who do the
[00:30:57] same with their underage daughters or sons?