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[00:00:00] you are almost I came here for a while
[00:00:04] and yes, I can't
[00:00:05] ensuring the safety of the minor during tell you because I didn't see him, I just hugged him and we stayed for a while and
[00:00:09] I came here, so that's why I came for a while to let him know he's fine
[00:00:12] to the people who are here to say thank you for being
[00:00:16] here to ask what is going to happen with the school
[00:00:19] because it can't be that students are escaping like this, today it's my son and
[00:00:23] tomorrow whose son will it be? Which is the school so
[00:00:26] the authorities are notified, it's the secondary
[00:00:30] school 21
[00:00:33] right there at the place where we are
[00:00:36] not this school that obviously well tomorrow the
[00:00:40] director will have to give an explanation, no, mati has
[00:00:43] cracks everywhere in material, none
[00:00:46] was able to appear clearly first they don't control what
[00:00:50] happens inside the classroom with a child with others who are harassing him and threatening
[00:00:53] him, the child escaped
[00:00:57] during school hours, they don't inform the family. They don't
[00:01:00] inform the family, where is the precisely formative and protective duty that they have
[00:01:04] to fulfill in a school? That information, when do they tell you, how long
[00:01:08] after your son left school? They notify me at
[00:01:12] 11, but for me this was earlier because I am only a few
[00:01:16] protection for the child is created that in blocks from here from the school and when they
[00:01:18] notified me I was already coming to the school, so for me
[00:01:23] great detail or this was much earlier. At 11 I have the message that
[00:01:26] the teacher sent me that if I could come, but I was already on my way
[00:01:30] I am very very few blocks from here from the school and how
[00:01:34] did you find him, when did he disappear exactly
[00:01:37] this was this morning or yesterday and
[00:01:40] yes this morning at 11, 11 is what I
[00:01:44] understand, it's the message that I received telling me that he
[00:01:48] should come, that my child should, they didn't even tell me
[00:01:52] said, the people from to come because my child escaped, they were just making me come
[00:01:55] and then on the way when I'm coming they call me again and tell me your child ran
[00:01:58] away? And how did you find him,
[00:02:02] I mean how was his physical appearance, he is now
[00:02:05] emotionally, no, no, he is fine, he was just
[00:02:08] hungry because he was hungry
[00:02:11] mobilized, your distress in your voice is noticeable, but on the other hand there is the all day, but he is fine, he started to cry and well, now I'm going to wait for him to
[00:02:14] calm down and I'm going to ask him what really
[00:02:17] happened, but it's not going to stay like this, I'm going to do something because it can't
[00:02:20] be, I hold them responsible because it can't be that they didn't have the
[00:02:24] security so that now, as I
[00:02:27] tell you, it happened with mine and how will it be with the other children? It's that
[00:02:30] they are absolutely responsible here there is no doubt, the child was in
[00:02:34] his schedule, your son was in school hours,
[00:02:37] receives
[00:02:40] what the threats, escapes and they were not able to notify
[00:02:43] the parents in time, had they filed a report, did the school file a report
[00:02:46] immediately with the police or did you not
[00:02:49] file it either? The report was filed at about 2 in the
[00:02:52] afternoon, so everything they did was wrong Sonia
[00:02:56] no, yes, absolutely everything wrong, everything wrong, I mean.
[00:03:00] from the school also notifying the inspection authorities
[00:03:03] call 911, they didn't eh and asking you if at any
[00:03:06] time he told you, asked you,
[00:03:10] within high school, at some point did you
[00:03:14] talk to him?
[00:03:17] No, no, we always talk about it at home, he knows that if something happens, he has to come
[00:03:21] and kiss us. In fact, the day before, I don't know what had happened in physical education, the
[00:03:24] thing is that in the parents' group people started talking
[00:03:26] but you started looking for him at 11:30 in about how the kids, well, they're not at that age, that they act grown up, that they're in adolescence, that
[00:03:30] they had to be careful, that they, that, eh,
[00:03:33] because of a situation that had happened with another kid who had been slapped, and mine had also
[00:03:37] been involved, as if mine had hit him, when it wasn't like that, it
[00:03:40] wasn't like that because he didn't hit him, and it turns out that the
[00:03:44] other kid who wanted to hit him is a classmate of the kid who was hit the day before
[00:03:48] and he wants to defend him, that's why he comes and attacks
[00:03:52] mine, but it's not even the problem of this
[00:03:56] kid who was attacked the day before with mine, of another kid that the kid took
[00:04:00] responsibility and said yes I did it and
[00:04:03] 2 km I hit him how long has this violent persecution against
[00:04:07] your son been going on, I mean that they have been harassing him, that they have been
[00:04:10] trying to threaten him, I don't know what to tell you because
[00:04:15] because he said, among other things, what I'm going to talk now because this is not exceptional, I mean, the directors and the teachers should
[00:04:19] take this into account yes
[00:04:23] yes, but for me they already, as I tell everyone, for me they knew because
[00:04:27] personally what as a teacher and as a mother you perceive when something is happening, something is being done to the
[00:04:31] children,
[00:04:39] move him if he's not detained, of course, that's what 2 and a half km from you didn't have, you didn't really know what was happening to your son inside the school, no, no, no, no, no, because besides
[00:04:42] as I tell everyone, he goes accompanied, he comes back
[00:04:44] accompanied, so it's not like he's a kid who
[00:04:48] goes through life Peppa and nobody
[00:04:50] I'm keeping myself, I'm on the street, I'm on takes responsibility for him, no, now, eh, as I tell
[00:04:53] everyone, I didn't know where he was because he doesn't know anything
[00:04:57] here, I ask Juan, our
[00:05:00] head lawyer here, I say beyond the administrative
[00:05:04] sanction, there is abandonment of a person with the
[00:05:08] aggravating circumstance that I imagine that the teacher, the entire
[00:05:11] teaching staff is in some way the one in charge
[00:05:14] of
[00:05:18] class, they let him go, they don't look for him,
[00:05:21] if it could constitute abandonment of a person, but I mean for there to be a
[00:05:25] criminal offense no and there is a
[00:05:28] breach of duties, because let's not forget that if this is a
[00:05:31] school or a public institution, they are the
[00:05:34] equivalent of public officials, they have certain duties
[00:05:37] that the common person does not have, that the common
[00:05:40] person does not have, so at a minimum. there should be administrative
[00:05:43] responsibility without ruling out the criminal hypothesis that
[00:05:47] you rightly raise, of course, of course, I mean, because otherwise it seems that it
[00:05:50] happens, as it often does, that most public officials then
[00:05:54] get away with it because this could have ended in a tragedy, couldn't it, with that
[00:05:58] 12-year-old child terrified, it's good that he
[00:06:00] appeared safe and sound at 12 hours,
[00:06:04] 10 hours, but I'll add something else Diego, did it
[00:06:07] surprise you that
[00:06:11] children are abandoned that there is no
[00:06:14] consequence, that there is no state agency that takes care of recovering those
[00:06:18] affected children, we are talking about the previous case, but here it is not
[00:06:21] far from that, it is an affected childhood and so much
[00:06:24] discourse, proclamation of
[00:06:28] practice it doesn't happen, of course, I want to ask the mother
[00:06:31] if her son had any
[00:06:35] physical examination to confirm that he is well,
[00:06:38] did they give you support, I mean, with the assistant, with the assistant.
[00:06:42] No, my son just appeared how long ago, no, no, my
[00:06:46] son just appeared a little while ago,
[00:06:50] I just left him for a bit, but I'm going to go because I want him to tell
[00:06:53] me what happened, how
[00:06:57] things were, he appears, the police
[00:06:58] find him,
[00:07:01] no, no, no, he appears alone at my house, the police don't find him, no one
[00:07:05] finds him, at least he was able to go home,
[00:07:08] casa,
[00:07:10] yes, when I... I went to file the report, the police told me that first
[00:07:14] I had to wait for the chief of I don't know what, all the paperwork they
[00:07:17] do,
[00:07:20] because if they are telling you, if they are telling you that the child disappeared,
[00:07:24] the first thing you do is make a patrol or something,
[00:07:28] no, they took a long time,
[00:07:31] 11:20, 11:20,
[00:07:35] it crosses everything, the image is irrefutable, all the videos are there.
[00:07:38] you see a person running
[00:07:42] se ve una persona corriendo
[00:07:43] behind,
[00:07:47] look at the image, there it is eh, but how
[00:07:50] running exclusively, the kid leaves,
[00:07:54] a teacher I understand, she runs after him, she
[00:07:57] wasn't in very good physical condition, he gets away and she lets
[00:08:01] him go and the report is only filed at 2
[00:08:05] o'clock,
[00:08:09] clearly at 2 o'clock.
[00:08:12] which I understand the family does, no, they didn't
[00:08:16] accompany me, they went around twice, or maybe five
[00:08:20] times in the car with me looking for him here in the
[00:08:23] surroundings, then they brought me here to the school to try to give me his backpack and
[00:08:27] I told them that I didn't care about my son's backpack, I wanted to look for him, what time was
[00:08:30] that, mom? This
[00:08:34] all happened like that, 11:30,
[00:08:39] the morning 11:20
[00:08:42] I started looking for him the moment they sent me the message, I immediately went to look for him, what
[00:08:46] time did you send me, I was on my way when they called me, they sent me a message
[00:08:50] for me to come pick him up so that there wouldn't be any problems at dismissal and I,
[00:08:54] they sent me the message at 11, I was there at 11:05 or
[00:08:58] 11:03 because I'm right here
[00:09:00] I was already in the plaza around the corner looking for him and the boy was no
[00:09:04] longer there, my son was not here clearly but well this is the image
[00:09:08] that shows evidence of how the teacher lets him go, she lets
[00:09:11] him go. The boy runs away, she runs after him a little and says well
[00:09:15] what must she have thought, no, he is 12 years old, I mean he already has the
[00:09:19] capacity to fend for himself in the street when he was
[00:09:23] in school hours, well good news anyway in the end
[00:09:26] let's hope that the school authorities pay, right,
[00:09:30] that they pay with whatever they have to pay, they are public officials as Juan
[00:09:34] rightly said and and well, let's see if they also face any criminal offense, right,
[00:09:38] for not having done what they had to do and let's conclude with this, Juan, go ahead, at
[00:09:41] the very least, let the lady also file a report with a
[00:09:44] supervisory entity so that it doesn't go nowhere, because otherwise after
[00:09:48] the heat of the moment passes and we forget about the issue and another kid has the same thing happen, I'll come
[00:09:51] tomorrow, yes, the last thing, yes, I'll come tomorrow
[00:09:54] here, they'll have to give me some answers about how it's possible that
[00:09:58] my son escaped from school like that and as I repeat,
[00:10:01] right there you can see there's not even a fence at the school. Good, I send you
[00:10:05] a hug and go with your son who had a difficult
[00:10:09] day, as a family you had a difficult day. Hugs, thanks. Dear
[00:10:12] Nero, thanks, thanks for everything, eh, let's go with the graphic,
[00:10:16] go ahead,
[00:10:21] last minute,
[00:10:24] 9 minutes. This happens after 10 at night and this is the
[00:10:28] topic of the day, Nancy,
[00:10:29] the teacher from Corrientes, appeared
[00:10:33] dead, right, and the question is what was
[00:10:36] really happening, where did they kill her, I'm already looking at Juan who has a lot
[00:10:40] of information, he is from the province and knows the area very well,
[00:10:44] a ranch that is almost as big as the city of Buenos
[00:10:48] Aires, in that perimeter they had to look for her and what had to happen
[00:10:51] in many cases was that someone gave the information, right,
[00:10:55] where the body was so they could find her, eh, a priori, 15
[00:10:58] km away, right, from the
[00:11:01] school, from this educational establishment where she went
[00:11:05] every so often, she would stay a week to teach classes, exactly, we talked about her being
[00:11:08] found semi-submerged in an area
[00:11:11] where there is a kind of swamp, a significant amount of water
[00:11:15] and mud as if it were a swamp, so to speak,
[00:11:18] semi-submerged, 50% of the body was submerged, the other 50
[00:11:22] was exposed to the elements, the body was in an advanced state of
[00:11:25] decomposition, well, at the moment they are preparing the body to take it for the
[00:11:29] autopsy operation, which will surely be carried out during the night
[00:11:33] or first thing in the morning according to the information that reached us in the last
[00:11:37] minutes, today in the morning the body was found, the information emerged
[00:11:41] around noon, we are talking about 15 km away, it is not
[00:11:44] known with certainty if that was the crime scene, the
[00:11:48] scene of death, if there is another scene and this would be the
[00:11:52] secondary or discard scene, oh well. they think that the body could have
[00:11:55] high surface, we can say
[00:11:59] that it could have been a horse, she could have been moved lifeless and
[00:12:03] thrown from a horse, that's why the body was in the upper part
[00:12:06] of the body, we are talking about the skull, the upper limbs and the
[00:12:10] torso, eh submerged in this
[00:12:13] area that can be like a kind of swamp
[00:12:17] and the legs, the lower limbs were exposed to the elements,
[00:12:20] advanced state of decomposition is what the body had and well, at least 15 km
[00:12:23] away. School 626, I ask
[00:12:27] Sonia, how how is this case analyzed,
[00:12:31] right, a woman who appears in the middle of a swamp after how many
[00:12:35] days, two weeks, eh, at least, that nothing was known about her,
[00:12:39] a body in an advanced state of decomposition, eh,
[00:12:42] how, how, I mean, the crime scene is difficult, right, what Jorge said,
[00:12:46] is it the primary scene, the place where she was found or was she
[00:12:49] killed somewhere else and only her body was thrown there,
[00:12:53] yes, this case has many components that still need
[00:12:57] to be analyzed, on the one hand, the wait for the autopsy, the
[00:13:00] autopsy report, but also the analysis of
[00:13:04] eh cell phones, of the locations, we are talking about
[00:13:07] a ranch that has a lot of territory, that we are
[00:13:11] talking about a capacity of meters and kilometers
[00:13:15] that is similar to the federal capital and that the
[00:13:19] owner of the ranch has not yet been summoned by the justice system, I mean, a
[00:13:22] body appears inside her property. She testified, she
[00:13:26] testified, she testified, but obviously as a witness, I think
[00:13:29] she even spontaneously came forward, look, let's go with Marcelo Benítez to
[00:13:33] answer all the questions, always with the scoop on the case,
[00:13:37] Marcelo, and well, the questions we are asking ourselves now with the appearance of the
[00:13:40] body is what was the motive, right, what was the
[00:13:44] motive and how did this information emerge, which was obviously
[00:13:47] very precise because without the information, it's doubtful that they could
[00:13:51] have found her, right, at least in the short term, Marcelo, how are you, good evening.
[00:13:57] evening, Diego, how are you, Diego, a pleasure to talk to you, eh, as always, a pleasure, a pleasure
[00:14:01] to talk to all of you, well, yes,
[00:14:04] I think they did a very important recap,
[00:14:07] eh, they analyzed and gave very
[00:14:10] important guidelines, I was listening
[00:14:12] carefully
[00:14:15] eh, I'm going to explain something that is very, very interesting, eh,
[00:14:18] to let Diego know,
[00:14:21] yes, the body of
[00:14:26] Nancy is found from the school
[00:14:29] we rectify that
[00:14:32] because
[00:14:36] km 3 km from 15
[00:14:44] I'm going to give you official data and then do the analysis
[00:14:47] that
[00:14:51] the minister has just informed that
[00:14:55] official data that I'm giving you that the body was found
[00:15:01] the school and 5 km from
[00:15:04] the ranch, El Curupí,
[00:15:07] I'm going to explain something that is very important
[00:15:09] eh
[00:15:12] each kilometer has 1, so it's 1 meters per kilometer, we're talking
[00:15:16] more or less of more or less, more
[00:15:19] or less 18 km from El Curupí
[00:15:23] to the school. That journey, notice how
[00:15:27] difficult the information was, because this is very important to
[00:15:30] say, Rosa did it in almost 3
[00:15:33] hours, 18 km in 3
[00:15:35] hours. Swamps, lagoons,
[00:15:39] because you have to understand that it was horses and horses
[00:15:42] that knew the place, because otherwise
[00:15:46] they would get stuck in the swamps, tomorrow, in the
[00:15:50] wetlands, places where they
[00:15:52] found her,
[00:15:56] let me make a parenthesis, Marcelo, tomorrow there is a
[00:15:59] consternation in Corrientes, tomorrow there is a teacher strike,
[00:16:01] because obviously this is a confirmation that was also
[00:16:05] in the province. Different parts of the country have joined
[00:16:09] in, it has become generalized nationwide, the
[00:16:13] strike will be national, yes Marcelo
[00:16:17] yes, yes, what I want to clarify, I want to make this very clear
[00:16:20] because this is official data and then yes make the analysis and ask me
[00:16:24] what you want those 18 km more or
[00:16:28] less that she took, she delayed that because look how difficult
[00:16:31] the place was, how difficult
[00:16:35] the place was and I,
[00:16:39] this day I told you from the very first
[00:16:42] moment that the foreman Sarsa,
[00:16:46] because here you have to understand
[00:16:48] that Rosa's brother, Rosa's brother had
[00:16:51] had a death, there are many
[00:16:55] things that nobody knows that I will
[00:16:58] tell you tomorrow or the day after with
[00:17:01] I will send you the details,
[00:17:05] even
[00:17:07] here. he made a whole recount, year by year, of all the disappeared people in
[00:17:11] Esquina and of whom absolutely nothing is known, but
[00:17:14] there I am talking about there, about the place
[00:17:17] specifically, then the other things, yes, we have talked about them, but it
[00:17:20] was not very easy, all that matter and that's why I told you from the very first
[00:17:24] moment, you have to be careful, what happens then when they open the
[00:17:28] phones, they opened 28 phones and it was found
[00:17:32] that there was a relationship between,
[00:17:35] let's remember who is detained hm? Rojas, Rosa's
[00:17:38] husband
[00:17:41] and Sandoval, a laborer, who are
[00:17:44] dependent on Sarsa, they are laborers who
[00:17:47] depended
[00:17:49] on the other hand, eh, Rosa, let's say
[00:17:53] she is under preventive detention
[00:17:57] as homicide
[00:18:00] here there is another of the topics that you also analyzed a lot, talked a lot about
[00:18:04] this, it is important to say that the person who is
[00:18:08] detained for
[00:18:11] false testimony, had anticipated what eventually
[00:18:15] happened today with Rosa, we would have to
[00:18:18] see what it was then, she knew what happened, right, because let's remember he gives
[00:18:22] the version of an abuse inside the school, right,
[00:18:26] remember it Marcelo, what version does he give and then he recants and that's why
[00:18:30] he is charged with false testimony, he said they had, he said they had
[00:18:33] raped her, they had killed her and they had thrown
[00:18:38] her in a place,
[00:18:40] the thing is they threw her in what place did they
[00:18:43] throw her, why when they went to look they didn't find her, she, he
[00:18:47] said, they threw her in a place, he didn't give details,
[00:18:51] he said, they threw her near the, so details,
[00:18:54] Rosa's body appeared 2
[00:18:57] km from the school, let me add something, because the one
[00:19:01] who denies discredits that
[00:19:04] version is the lawyer, who takes over. and one
[00:19:07] suspected that perhaps it was a strategy, ah Codasi,
[00:19:11] look, just Codasi, who is not the José
[00:19:14] Codasi is the brother Norberto Codasi if I'm not
[00:19:17] mistaken, Norberto Kodasi who takes over the defense and must have told him not
[00:19:21] buddy you're lying, brother what are you going to say, no Juan, this can happen,
[00:19:25] don't say don't say the truth, then there is also the
[00:19:29] version that they might have pressured him to
[00:19:31] tell a lie, strange, it didn't come from the
[00:19:35] first one that the lawyer made him manipulate.
[00:19:38] That's why I wanted to remind you so that you
[00:19:42] analyze the matter well, what that guy said for false
[00:19:45] testimony, practically after the events,
[00:19:48] you mean that the prosecutor's office
[00:19:53] probably, because it's still not known, Rosa's body, I mean, Nancy's body
[00:19:57] eh
[00:20:00] they were taken to the morgue in Corrientes because it was in a state of
[00:20:04] decomposition, it says it was in a state.
[00:20:08] the one who saw it, had the opportunity to see it, tells me, terrible, terrible what happened,
[00:20:11] impressive, the thing is that we also have to see and analyze
[00:20:15] why the body was damaged or by the
[00:20:18] natural decomposition of a body after 20 days, no
[00:20:22] it was very, very, very deteriorated, very damaged, excuse me because I'm on the street,
[00:20:28] the street, I'm not telling you
[00:20:31] eh it was very damaged, it was very deteriorated,
[00:20:35] let's say, no, so they didn't want to touch
[00:20:38] it just half an hour ago, hm, half an
[00:20:41] hour, an hour ago, they took Nancy's body
[00:20:45] and and really the
[00:20:48] issue is eh... eh, with what did they
[00:20:51] kill her, there it is, the question is, is the damage from
[00:20:55] the action of the water, of the climatic inclemencies, of the
[00:20:59] fauna or a sign of violence, not the result of a
[00:21:03] machete blow,
[00:21:06] exactly, they killed her with a knife, they killed her with a
[00:21:09] shot, they hit her, they beat her, they killed
[00:21:13] her with blows, are you asserting or are
[00:21:16] you speculating,
[00:21:18] I am giving facts. that we don't know that
[00:21:22] obviously one is going to ask, you can ask me as I can also
[00:21:25] ask, how did they kill her, how did they kill her,
[00:21:29] I mean, if they are going to investigate
[00:21:32] if they raped her and how they killed her, if they killed
[00:21:36] her with blows, if they killed her, they
[00:21:39] shot her, if let's say, make a point there
[00:21:42] that we have Sonia, criminologist, what
[00:21:46] probabilities are there that that body speaks after so many days and in that
[00:21:49] situation. of inclement weather, not much, data can still be obtained,
[00:21:53] yes, of course, I understand the point that perhaps, eh, not
[00:21:57] only the decomposition of the body due to the passage of time itself, but also due to the conditions
[00:22:01] in which it was found, because perhaps some animal could
[00:22:04] have eh injured it to
[00:22:07] eat it, no, I understand that the question is pointing there, but today
[00:22:11] many facts can be obtained not from
[00:22:15] even in this state of the body, yes, sure, there
[00:22:19] is Marcelo. what thermometer did you feel in the justice system that the
[00:22:23] body will speak, that it will give them elements, because until now, no,
[00:22:27] at least that we know of, there is nothing, no, only versions of knives
[00:22:31] with blood, of Nancy's clothes in Rosa's
[00:22:34] house, yes, Diego, another
[00:22:36] thing, eh, if they killed her there, if they took her there, they
[00:22:40] killed her, where did they kill her, they threw her there, they took
[00:22:43] her on horseback from a place and they threw her there, they dumped her, because let's remember that the
[00:22:47] body was, let's say,
[00:22:50] part was in what is the water itself and another
[00:22:54] part was already in a place
[00:22:57] where eh she could be seen, let's say, I mean
[00:23:00] she wasn't all there and how could it be that 2 km from the
[00:23:04] house with such a huge deployment of helicopters, drones,
[00:23:07] dogs, I don't know how many, a huge
[00:23:11] brigade did not find her in a radius of 2
[00:23:14] km, I mean one makes a you make a diameter of
[00:23:18] 2 km and you walk it and no
[00:23:20] precisely that observation I was going to make or that
[00:23:23] question there appealing to what Marcelo
[00:23:26] says, eh, he says he replicates
[00:23:30] official report
[00:23:32] says, why should we believe the official
[00:23:36] report?
[00:23:40] Give me a second, Marcelo, wait, I want to add another voice because Estela Juri, who is a
[00:23:43] teacher in Corrientes and obviously
[00:23:47] concerned, like all the teaching staff of and the country,
[00:23:50] Estela, how are you, good evening, hello,
[00:23:53] how are you, good evening to you too, well, we still don't know the
[00:23:57] motive, no, for which they
[00:23:59] killed her, it's speculated with this version that was finally
[00:24:03] taken as a false testimony of an alleged
[00:24:06] abuse followed by death, but there was also another part, right, of what
[00:24:09] she had reported in writing in a document
[00:24:13] regarding the dire conditions that the
[00:24:16] school had and for which a file was opened and she somewhat generated a problem
[00:24:20] in that place, no Estela, yes, no,
[00:24:23] the file was never moved,
[00:24:26] the report that the supervisor
[00:24:30] indicated to her by phone at a distance was never
[00:24:33] taken into account either, eh, the minister
[00:24:36] never
[00:24:39] took action regarding the file that the
[00:24:42] lawyer made who, for asking, made the
[00:24:45] writing and indicated the file number, I am
[00:24:47] within a guild of
[00:24:51] Nancy's family, the son has personally
[00:24:54] asked me yesterday that
[00:24:57] we call a general strike, yes, the
[00:25:00] general secretary has called a strike, a national
[00:25:03] strike for tomorrow and well, we are with a
[00:25:06] provincial strike and mobilizations throughout the
[00:25:10] province and well throughout the nation and yes
[00:25:13] obviously I tell you
[00:25:17] happened to Nancy is something that can happen to
[00:25:21] any teacher in this province because the degree of
[00:25:25] abandonment we have is something of every
[00:25:28] day, whether the way the ani went to school
[00:25:32] in those conditions without
[00:25:34] being paid,
[00:25:38] without being paid, Nancy died without being paid, she taught classes, clear this
[00:25:41] doubt for me because some say she had two students, others that she had
[00:25:45] four, the school functioned, of course it did, in
[00:25:48] that place. there are students, there are fourth-grade schools with
[00:25:52] single staff, because there are students, because they are remote
[00:25:56] areas and because the children go
[00:25:59] precisely to the only school they have. Imagine
[00:26:03] that another school eh, I just heard that they were talking about
[00:26:07] Kodafi, that Kodasi says that no child went there because
[00:26:10] they all went to sauce that I heard
[00:26:14] this wrapped in a Superman t-shirt that really
[00:26:17] gave me terrible indignation because it seems
[00:26:21] that they continue to make fun of us, they continue to make fun of the
[00:26:24] family, you understand listening to these
[00:26:27] characters, when we know very well as
[00:26:30] teachers, I am a rector of a school, 28
[00:26:34] years of teaching, for 16 years I have been a member
[00:26:38] seeing the problems of teachers doing debate journalism, this subject
[00:26:42] cannot tell me that the children of the area
[00:26:45] all went to a school in sauce, what do you think
[00:26:49] the children of such a remote
[00:26:52] area as that of discomfort with the
[00:26:55] economic conditions that these people have, in the
[00:26:58] way, I don't even want to speculate why
[00:27:01] he said what he said. I don't even want to speculate about that
[00:27:05] because Nancy is a victim but I imagine the worst
[00:27:08] things, no almost giving Nancy
[00:27:11] a responsibility I can't give you
[00:27:14] an account, I can give you an account that it is impossible
[00:27:18] that if the children went 3 km by horse
[00:27:21] to sauce it is because that school was closed for 3 years,
[00:27:25] students there were, that school was
[00:27:28] there precisely because it was the only thing the children in the area had.
[00:27:32] and if the children stopped going to school because they closed the
[00:27:36] school, now how Nancy fell
[00:27:39] there, is what we still ask ourselves, because how
[00:27:43] they managed to keep the school closed for 3
[00:27:46] years, how all this situation was never
[00:27:50] made public, here there are things that are not
[00:27:55] the ranch also how they made it
[00:27:58] known knowing that the children of the area only had
[00:28:02] this college,
[00:28:04] that is, what else do you want, everything wrong, everything wrong, Estela, give me a second
[00:28:08] because on the other hand, obviously, there is the teachers' strike, you are very
[00:28:14] judicial plot, no, how Nancy's body was reached, the question we asked
[00:28:18] ourselves and continue to ask ourselves
[00:28:21] eh today, I want to go with Marcelo, we have him connected Marcelo eh, Marcelo, what
[00:28:25] is true about Nancy's brother breaking down,
[00:28:28] giving a statement, I understand it is the third yesterday eh,
[00:28:32] even in the early morning, no, Rosa's brother, sorry, Rosa's brother
[00:28:36] who is detained eh and he
[00:28:38] breaks down and gives the exact location of where the body
[00:28:41] was,
[00:28:45] the version is not official, but I think it
[00:28:47] has
[00:28:49] eh a lot of importance in what you are
[00:28:53] saying Diego, it is said that he breaks
[00:28:56] down and he says where he
[00:28:59] is, eh, let's remember that he was the one who reported it. that's why
[00:29:03] you remember that you showed the note
[00:29:06] eh, I don't know if you remember that you showed the note of what he
[00:29:10] had said that he had been compensated, of course
[00:29:14] well, that's Joaquín Leguisamón, he is Rosa's
[00:29:18] brother and he is obviously the
[00:29:21] person who eventually provided
[00:29:24] the information eh to
[00:29:27] be able to locate her
[00:29:30] why isn't he detained because he can't
[00:29:41] accuse his own sister, no, if one assumes
[00:29:45] who gave him testimony and told him hey look this happened, I'm telling
[00:29:48] you because you're my brother and he can't
[00:29:51] accuse her, he's not obliged to
[00:29:55] report his own brother, he has no
[00:29:57] responsibility
[00:30:01] I think you said something very important Diego, last night I casually
[00:30:05] had a discussion with a person, but not like that, because he told me
[00:30:08] they moved him, but how if he wasn't
[00:30:11] detained, he could have been summoned, he could have been
[00:30:15] brought in to talk, because he wasn't detained, he is not
[00:30:18] detained, they cannot accuse him of cover-up up to the fourth
[00:30:21] degree of consanguinity,
[00:30:25] not being detained or by affinity even that
[00:30:28] version many times is to
[00:30:31] compare it. to think about it, let's say, no, because
[00:30:34] he wasn't detained, so he was moved and much less the media said they
[00:30:38] moved Joaquín, I said how are they going to
[00:30:42] you're saying and he shows up spontaneously, I imagine that
[00:30:45] sleeping with that
[00:30:47] secret must be heavy, no, of course he says
[00:30:51] that the prosecutor had summoned him and he had gone
[00:30:54] eh to the place and would have given
[00:30:58] details where where.