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[00:01:04] it, uh, I think they are going down different paths, no Belu, but perhaps what
[00:01:09] Nancy's crime, the autopsy began, the teacher's
[00:01:13] body is already being analyzed at the forensic
[00:01:16] medical institute. They will try to determine if she was
[00:01:19] a victim of sexual
[00:01:20] abuse.
[00:01:31] Operation in a school, 18 people intoxicated by
[00:01:35] pepper spray, the incident happened in a school in Caballito, so far it has not
[00:01:39] been officially specified how the intoxication
[00:01:43] there at the occurred.
[00:01:47] they resolved it at the
[00:01:50] Bolsonaro in the United States, the government defended his departure from
[00:01:53] Argentina. The chief of cabinet said that the former Brazilian
[00:01:58] do we do now with the body, you talk about it at the presidential candidate had no Interpol impediments.
[00:02:00] He entered and exited with the corresponding documentation,
[00:02:04] highlighted Diego
[00:02:05] Santili.
[00:02:12] from Misiones saying that Caputo was in Pope's visit, the road closure scheme for the stage setup is already in effect, traffic complications are
[00:02:16] recorded around the Monument to the Spanish in the city of Buenos
[00:02:19] Aires, drivers are recommended to avoid the intersection of Libertador
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[00:02:26] tasks are being carried out.
[00:03:04] Latest
[00:03:04] news,
[00:03:12] National teachers' strike and march for
[00:03:15] Nancy,
[00:03:17] they found her in a field in the area of the
[00:03:20] remote place,
[00:03:24] the whole town demands
[00:03:28] differently, this is like digital. It's not justice.
[00:03:39] and this is the area where they found,
[00:03:42] unfortunately, it's the worst ending, the body of
[00:03:45] Nancy God, this teacher, substitute
[00:03:48] principal, 52 years old, disappeared
[00:03:51] between October 6 and 7, depending on whether you
[00:03:55] take into account the last time she was seen alive or the
[00:03:58] messages she... exchanged with her family,
[00:04:02] the truth is that yesterday, I insist, unfortunately, her
[00:04:06] women, as we have already seen in lifeless body was found
[00:04:09] in a flooded area, of course,
[00:04:12] because it clashes with what in a very difficult to access area where they surely took Nancy's
[00:04:16] horseback and the lacerations she had on her
[00:04:19] body even suggest the possibility that she had
[00:04:22] defended herself from someone, we'll have to see if
[00:04:24] above it could be they find anything under her fingernails and also
[00:04:27] that perhaps they tried to dismember the body, the information is of course
[00:04:31] shocking, but it is what is known at this time while the final
[00:04:35] autopsy result is awaited, which is being carried out in the capital of the province of
[00:04:38] Corrientes, by the way, a result that because the
[00:04:42] one who gets burned with milk sees a cow and cries, they will first
[00:04:45] pass it by videoconference to the
[00:04:49] family, because yesterday there was a
[00:04:52] bad, horrendous and unfortunate situation for the family who was
[00:04:56] giving an interview and a
[00:04:59] colleague ended up confirming that the body had
[00:05:02] appeared, they had not been notified, the family did not know it and that was an
[00:05:06] exposed, I mean, like what happened with the case of evident misunderstanding on the part of the
[00:05:09] authorities and the investigation to first speak with the family before it was made
[00:05:12] public. Pay attention
[00:05:14] to
[00:05:19] this,
[00:05:19] breaking
[00:05:25] news, scoop,
[00:05:28] always news from 12 to 2 PM, police
[00:05:30] show,
[00:05:32] this is how Nancy's belongings
[00:05:34] were found,
[00:05:37] they were meters from her
[00:05:38] body.
[00:05:44] and these are the images, pay attention that what looks like grass
[00:05:48] is actually
[00:05:51] aquatic plants, that's water,
[00:05:54] there you are seeing, let's see Belu, they are picking up what is a
[00:05:58] jacket, some clothes, yes, it's a garment, a
[00:06:01] jacket, also a pair of boots and a bag
[00:06:05] that obviously, there's the bag, look where the
[00:06:08] cell phone was inside, almost as if what we are seeing were water hyacinths.
[00:06:17] Yes, yes, yes, typical, typical plants that grow in estuaries, in wetlands, look how improvised they are, they threw the bag, in a
[00:06:20] day, they were improvised, of course, of course, they didn't even notice that,
[00:06:23] nothing, nothing, they thought they wouldn't find her anymore, or it's someone
[00:06:27] who really didn't know what to do or completely believed in their
[00:06:30] impunity, yes, that's why I want to know how Joaquín
[00:06:34] knew where the body was, where the body was, it's strange
[00:06:37] that he's not arrested, with such precision because the truth is.
[00:06:40] as one of the accused, among others, also officers who
[00:06:52] were part of the search,
[00:06:55] also the Minister of Security of the province, and they said that the
[00:06:59] topography of the place is very difficult
[00:07:02] to access, it's very, very aggressive everything around
[00:07:05] it, well we saw just now in the images, we
[00:07:09] saw areas with water,
[00:07:12] a lot of undergrowth, well, the place is called "el malesal" where the school
[00:07:16] was also located not far from where the
[00:07:19] school was where Nancy worked, 2.5 km away,
[00:07:23] that is, very close, the remains and also the
[00:07:27] belongings of the teacher were found, if there hadn't been a tip, perhaps Nancy's body would
[00:07:30] never have been found, because imagine that the school is 2 and a half
[00:07:34] hours from the entrance of Curupí, the ranch, 2 and a half
[00:07:37] hours by horse, it's very far.
[00:07:41] Imagine that you have to search for a body in
[00:07:45] 70 hectares, not 70 km as
[00:07:49] we said the other day, 70
[00:07:50] hectares.
[00:07:53] 7000 hectares are 7 hectares.
[00:07:56] but very small, of course, it's very small, that's
[00:08:00] why it's so big. it's ultimately a place they call "el malesal" why? because it's a place full of weeds
[00:08:03] obviously, imagine that people historically surely gave it that name. Where? In "el
[00:08:07] malesal" and it bears the name of precisely a
[00:08:10] "malesal". If there hadn't been a tip, perhaps they would never have found the
[00:08:13] body, they say that the area of sacares
[00:08:16] could be clear.
[00:08:19] Well, because apparently the hunting ground that operates
[00:08:22] there is also illegal because they are native animals, so
[00:08:26] in reality the hunting ground that would operate, we have to see, we have to confirm everything,
[00:08:30] right? But it would be illegal, that's what, let's see
[00:08:33] uh, I know hunting grounds,
[00:08:37] let's see, it's not like you raise a wild boar in
[00:08:40] captivity and release it to be killed.
[00:08:46] A hunting ground is where they hunt, for example, wild boars, it's different from deer, of course, deer are more
[00:08:49] common. There's a multi-champion coach who has ranches in La
[00:08:53] Pampa, who is dedicated to that, to breeding
[00:08:56] deer to release them in a part of the reserve
[00:09:00] he has on his ranch, and he
[00:09:03] charges foreigners to come and hunt those animals.
[00:09:06] Of course, you might not like it, but well, it's allowed by
[00:09:10] law, plus you have a certain period
[00:09:13] of time during which you can hunt and not at other
[00:09:17] times, it's the rutting season and so on, but
[00:09:21] regardless of whether or not it's an illegal hunting ground,
[00:09:23] and there were no hunters at that time, no one else
[00:09:27] involved. Was that area
[00:09:30] overflown? Because perhaps I mean the bag, the
[00:09:33] belongings, I mean, I don't know if from
[00:09:37] spotted. No, I don't know
[00:09:39] if it had been overflown, I don't know, I don't know, it wasn't known.
[00:09:43] They worked with helicopters, with drones,
[00:09:47] uh 1200 agents approximately
[00:09:50] searching the area, it was two police officers, I think
[00:09:53] a woman and a man, who ended up finding the remains,
[00:09:57] obviously already with uh with the
[00:10:00] previous signalization from Joaquín who had mentioned where the
[00:10:03] remains were, right. Well, we're going to
[00:10:07] the province, Mauro Germán is reporting from there because, of course, these are
[00:10:10] crucial hours because we're going to have soon
[00:10:13] knowledge of what can be extracted from the
[00:10:16] autopsy and what can be extracted from the phones of all the
[00:10:20] detainees and especially Nancy's phone which was
[00:10:23] located in this place that we are showing you inside that bag, that
[00:10:27] bag that you are also seeing on Crónica right now,
[00:10:30] Mauro, what is happening now in the province, how much commotion there is with this
[00:10:34] case, well the whole society is in commotion and of course
[00:10:38] saddened by the sad outcome of this, in
[00:10:41] fact there is a strike that
[00:10:44] was almost quite widely observed at the provincial level with
[00:10:48] this teacher's demand,
[00:10:51] no doubt everyone points to the detainee. This
[00:10:55] is already a value judgment by society,
[00:10:59] I was hearing there, they were talking about whether the area was searched or not,
[00:11:03] uh, I asked
[00:11:06] the general in charge of the searches
[00:11:10] and he tells me no, that area was marked to be searched
[00:11:14] and in that search the body
[00:11:17] appears, however the prosecution tells me off the record
[00:11:20] of course that they will request
[00:11:23] the drone mapping to confirm if the drone
[00:11:26] passed or did not pass before through that area, these are already issues
[00:11:30] that have to do with the investigation part, but it's not a minor
[00:11:34] detail to know if there was already a
[00:11:37] previous search through
[00:11:40] drones, and what would that change
[00:11:42] Mauro? Well, what they want
[00:11:46] to see is if that really is the
[00:11:49] place, the first place of disposal, if the body was
[00:11:53] moved to end up later in that disposal place, Mauro, next
[00:11:57] to the bag there is a pair of boots, that pair of boots, there
[00:12:00] it is, there you see the boots, whose are they? Were they hers? Do you
[00:12:04] know whose those boots were? Everything, everything, everything that is in the
[00:12:07] bag, no, next to the bag, next to the bag, that's why I'm telling you, yes,
[00:12:11] but let me explain, all the contents of the
[00:12:14] bag, the boots, the cell phone, everything was
[00:12:18] taken, yes, as an
[00:12:21] element and is in the case, so, uh,
[00:12:25] it is assumed that there is already a prior recognition, the prosecution said it,
[00:12:29] there are elements that Rosa's own husband
[00:12:32] already gave a prior description,
[00:12:35] so they no longer even needed recognition
[00:12:38] and they already assume that all of that belonged to
[00:12:42] Nancy due to all the prior details that her husband gave. What
[00:12:45] would it mean that they took off her boots and discarded the body and the boots separately
[00:12:49] and well, it would have to do with
[00:12:52] the fact that, let's see, it's all very
[00:12:55] strange, it's lacking
[00:12:58] in logic, some very improvised things, I think
[00:13:02] that now, from 6 PM, we will have some
[00:13:06] clarity, I think the result will yield
[00:13:09] quite unpleasant issues due to some things that are being
[00:13:13] anticipated, so let's be prudent, let's respect
[00:13:17] the family, let's respect the pain of this family and let's wait
[00:13:20] for them to formally
[00:13:24] receive the information from the public
[00:13:27] prosecutor's office and from the provincial forensic institute.
[00:13:31] Now, what you are pointing out about the formality for the family to
[00:13:37] serious, because it has been seen that Nancy's own death
[00:13:40] was not communicated with the due
[00:13:44] care and so on, so that really, as Sebastián said,
[00:13:48] he found out through the media, sorry, that's non-compliance by public officials, there's
[00:13:51] a victim's law. the issue of not speaking to the press out of
[00:14:25] fear of what people will say or how they miscommunicate news or
[00:14:28] how they speak ill of the gender of
[00:14:31] other cases, cannot imply that a person finds out on a
[00:14:34] television channel about their mother's death, the truth is that the failure is not
[00:14:38] in journalism, the failure is in justice that did not know
[00:14:41] how to foresee this, it is a case of national transcendence, in the province of Buenos
[00:14:45] Aires all the information reaches us and they hide all the information from us and we
[00:14:49] have to swim in nothingness to get it, so that's fine, it's the
[00:14:52] job of each of those who are
[00:14:56] here to get the information. If we get ahead, why do we
[00:14:59] wonder what fear justice has of it being known that their procedure is not
[00:15:03] adequate? Because I mean, they are afraid to
[00:15:06] give press conferences because they don't know how to talk to women who are killed,
[00:15:10] I mean, because I think it has to do with that basis of the training that the people
[00:15:13] who investigate these cases have. Your assumptions, well yes, obviously it
[00:15:17] is a very, very I'm asking myself,
[00:15:21] these are questions I'm asking, not affirmations. I say maybe it's
[00:15:24] fear. That they don't have enough gender training and when
[00:15:27] they give press conferences they are
[00:15:31] the little girl Agostina from
[00:15:34] Cordoba, people conference. 13
[00:15:37] days, right? Which was true for a case that
[00:15:40] was actually solved. In this case, what is being questioned is
[00:15:44] precisely that the family found out through the media about the discovery of Nancy's
[00:15:48] the public official
[00:15:51] of justice who is leading the investigation. I believe it has to do with
[00:15:55] que querían esperar a tener algún elemento que
[00:15:58] and verifies that it was indeed
[00:16:02] Nancy because, of course, that would confirm
[00:16:06] these belongings were also being searched for around
[00:16:09] y todo presumía e infería que se trataba de Nancy, ellos no pueden
[00:16:13] go with that preliminary
[00:16:17] familia eh que se trata de Nancy cuando no tienen ninguna
[00:16:21] irrefutable proof that
[00:16:24] it's good that, let's say, they are cautious about that, well then
[00:16:28] the data leaks to the press because that's how it is nowadays with
[00:16:31] this, let's say, we are seeing images of how the procedure
[00:16:35] of the elements they seized was, I mean,
[00:16:38] you can't stop
[00:16:42] the prosecutor's office could have done, even without confirmation, as soon as they
[00:16:45] heard the data, was to have a reference person from the family, the
[00:16:49] prosecutor herself, is the prosecutor a woman or a man? It's a man, it's Mosquera, but a woman joined,
[00:16:53] a woman. Well, the prosecutors, either of them, one has direct contact
[00:16:56] with a family member in charge, calls them and says, look, we just found a body,
[00:17:00] we're going to investigate it and we'll confirm if it is or isn't, a way
[00:17:04] to protect the family. It's also
[00:17:07] clear because I've been doing this for decades,
[00:17:09] many times,
[00:17:13] uh, when the police officer is there on the
[00:17:16] scene, he sends a message to
[00:17:19] the colleague he gets along with and it spreads,
[00:17:23] imagine, imagine that there are thousands of agents participating in these
[00:17:27] searches, it easily leaks,
[00:17:30] imagine, imagine that we found out about another case, I mean, nothing to do with it, imagine that
[00:17:34] journalists found out that in a
[00:17:38] flight manifest there was Bolsonaro's name and then that flight manifest was removed
[00:17:41] and then Bolsonaro finally traveled on
[00:17:44] that plane, which means, or a police report
[00:17:50] the area, also Santiago Caputo
[00:17:51] exactly.
[00:17:54] Today everything leaks, it's very difficult, but, but look,
[00:17:58] we are facing a cultural change, a very
[00:18:01] deep cultural process that we also cannot ask all justice to
[00:18:05] have a gender perspective. We are in the middle,
[00:18:08] we should
[00:18:12] I don't know if all the prosecutors, all those who
[00:18:15] participate, the defender does not have to have
[00:18:19] a gender perspective, no, the defender does not, the defender does not because he defends
[00:18:23] rights of the accused, the court said, they are the rights of the
[00:18:25] accused.
[00:18:28] But understanding gender perspective does not mean being in favor of one or
[00:18:31] the other, it means defending the interests of whoever needs to be defended, whether male or
[00:18:35] female.
[00:18:42] No, it's very clear, but gender perspective is not limiting oneself, it's understanding
[00:18:46] that many times, always in reality, in our societies there is an
[00:18:49] inequality between men and women, not ignoring
[00:18:53] that to perform any act means you have a gender
[00:18:57] perspective, this does not mean that the femicide's defender has
[00:19:00] to be a feminist, no, we are not saying that, but the new, but the new generations will take it
[00:19:05] the same a digital native as a digital migrant.
[00:19:09] Obligation, Fiora, it's a law, it's in the law, you are obliged, the
[00:19:12] obligation is what I say, we cannot pretend either that, and yes, we have to pretend
[00:19:16] if there is a law made and everyone has to have, you didn't have training, for example, you didn't
[00:19:20] have it as journalists about the Micaela Law in the media?
[00:19:23] It's not mandatory
[00:19:27] only for state entities. it shows in private companies, but I don't
[00:19:30] estatalesidad.
[00:19:37] doubt it, it shows a lot in how news is communicated,
[00:19:41] uh, this for a matter of professional honesty,
[00:19:45] those who cover police topics and so on should all have
[00:19:48] Micaela training, now something to say since you mentioned the Micaela
[00:19:52] Law, today the second trial
[00:19:55] for Micaela García's case is being carried out, 10 years after
[00:19:59] Micaela's murder, the femicide, one of
[00:20:02] her femicides still has no conviction, 5 years.
[00:20:05] to the femicide
[00:20:37] of the potential femicide, I have to say because we have to
[00:20:41] be careful with the forms, clearly they seek complete justice
[00:20:44] for Micaela García, incredible, it's not an emblematic case, on the other hand, that
[00:20:48] even motivated this law. It means that any actor of
[00:20:52] the public system has to have training to
[00:20:55] understand precisely this, what is gender
[00:20:59] perspective, to fully understand that there is an
[00:21:02] inequality in power between men and women, that means having a
[00:21:06] gender perspective, not being in favor of one or in favor of another, it's not
[00:21:09] that, let's see, let's see, ah wait, the production has news, they are
[00:21:12] telling us, attention, look, watch out, the production worked, guys,
[00:21:16] uh, careful, no, it's a joke.
[00:21:20] We have great production here, yes, it's true, great, what happens is
[00:21:23] that today tempers are high, today is a
[00:21:27] day, we are at the end of the month, that's why, Sividino, especially Sividino,
[00:21:30] Lemos not so much,
[00:21:31] scoop,
[00:21:38] now new detentions are not
[00:21:40] ruled out,
[00:21:46] Nancy's body speaks, key autopsy.
[00:21:52] The prosecution maintains the hypothesis of group sexual assault,
[00:21:55] it's important, she is Dr. Brian who
[00:21:59] was talking to us a little while ago, with whom we were talking at the beginning of the program, Pampa, who
[00:22:02] is from Burlando's firm, Brian
[00:22:06] es asociado de burlando en corrientes
[00:22:09] es el el abogado que estuvo en la
[00:22:13] case while Burlando
[00:22:16] messages please. For example, here they are asking us to see if they can
[00:22:20] answer, it says: what surprises me is that they didn't track Nancy's phone number
[00:22:23] much earlier, there's no signal, good, that's the issue,
[00:22:26] clear, clear, uh, do you remember they said that they even had to climb
[00:22:30] eh, se acuerdan que decían que incluso tenían que subir a los árboles por ahí para poder responder un mensaje
[00:22:34] para que el mensaje que acabas de grabar saliera se tenían que subir al techo de la escuela por
[00:22:38] that they couldn't
[00:22:42] comunicarse con ella e hacen terminan haciendo la
[00:22:45] Go on, Caro. Good, and we have one more, it says: they ask us here why the union
[00:22:48] done some kind of
[00:22:52] realizar alguna alguna gestión para poder mejorar las condiciones
[00:22:55] laborales justamente en las cuales estaban las escuelas, es que seguramente el gremio hizo un reclamo
[00:22:59] union did find out,
[00:23:03] we'll have to see what contact she had with the
[00:23:07] do, and she did it well, was to submit a formal
[00:23:10] note to the, uh, head, what's
[00:23:13] his name, the person from the district, the inspector, the
[00:23:16] district inspector. to tell him about the situation and she recorded a video
[00:23:20] also showing him the deplorable
[00:23:24] that supposed school was, not the one she had to work
[00:23:28] at, Cibelu, yes, well, what
[00:23:31] that in reality they called a school but the reality is that
[00:23:35] all the infrastructure had
[00:23:38] nothing to do with a place to be able to teach,
[00:23:41] with a suitable place and with the suitable conditions to be able to teach
[00:23:45] because the situation of
[00:23:48] abandonment was total and as you well mentioned, she had
[00:23:51] documented it in this letter that she sent
[00:23:54] and submitted to some educational authority,
[00:23:58] clear, exactly, let's see, there is no doubt that
[00:24:01] there is a whole issue of
[00:24:05] a valid claim from all the teachers' unions for the conditions in which
[00:24:08] Nancy found herself, having to work
[00:24:12] in a place that was not, the conditions were not met
[00:24:16] for being able to do it, but on the other hand there is the investigation
[00:24:20] with evidence that is being carried out where those responsible
[00:24:23] would seem to be where they should be at the moment,
[00:24:26] which is detained at the disposal of justice, we have to
[00:24:30] see if there are no new detentions, that is a question
[00:24:33] that so far is open because I am aware that Joaquín, Rosa
[00:24:36] Leguisamón's brother, who ends up
[00:24:40] giving exact details of where Nancy's remains
[00:24:43] coming hours change
[00:24:46] his condition and become
[00:24:50] that can happen, as always when we talk about, for now it's a hypothesis,
[00:24:53] if the hypothesis of group sexual assault is confirmed, it never
[00:24:57] ceases, as always, to amaze me that
[00:25:01] people are capable of
[00:25:03] conspiring with each other for such an act of violence as
[00:25:07] raping, killing, as it's wrongly called a pack,
[00:25:11] because animals don't do that, very good. See, they have
[00:25:15] a gender perspective, guys, what you just did, Pampa, a good applause
[00:25:18] for Pampa, who had perspective.
[00:25:21] Gender today, let's go there, yes, I have it, it would be very strange
[00:25:24] but I'm not overthinking
[00:25:28] that a woman participated in this attack, it wouldn't be very
[00:25:30] strange, that's why it surprises me, but well, it's
[00:25:34] fine, but, but, but be careful that she is accused
[00:25:37] of simple homicide, not femicide, because
[00:25:41] she is a woman, that doesn't mean she actively
[00:25:45] participated, for example, if there was abuse, maybe she was
[00:25:48] used.
[00:25:51] to deceive, I'm making
[00:25:53] assumptions,
[00:25:55] used to deceive Nancy
[00:25:59] and take her to a point that doesn't make her less.
[00:26:02] Of course,
[00:26:07] if she doesn't take her to that place, all the other
[00:26:10] crimes wouldn't have been committed, you understand, maybe she didn't
[00:26:14] even lay a hand on Nancy, but it's highly
[00:26:17] probable that not, but it could be that the fact of
[00:26:21] uh lying to her, taking her here, taking her there, bringing her to
[00:26:25] participant, and if she had participated
[00:26:28] but after the commission of the crime, no, that is, it would be an cover-up.
[00:26:32] cover-up would be in that case, of course, you are you are
[00:26:35] trying to hide the body of the crime, in this case
[00:26:39] unfortunately it would be a necessary participant in that case, right? Because it is not
[00:26:43] part of the crime, yes, of the concealment, with
[00:26:47] which we will have to see anyway from the information we had and that you had
[00:26:51] and it would be a little more than that, no, because I insist, still
[00:26:55] it is not known for sure what the messages contain, but
[00:26:58] both, be careful, both the lawyers, the lawyer for the prosecution,
[00:27:02] who is the one who accuses the lawyer for Nancy's children, like for example
[00:27:06] Codasi, who is the lawyer for one of the detainees, tell you,
[00:27:09] "the messages are conclusive," of course. Of course, they are conclusive, my
[00:27:13] goodness, no, because for some reason, of course, for
[00:27:16] some reason, Rosa and her husband were accused
[00:27:19] of cover-up, and then they changed the classification, so
[00:27:23] I mean, something evidently some element
[00:27:26] was added by the prosecutor to make that change to a
[00:27:29] much more serious classification.
[00:27:40] Exactly, now, to whom do they send it? To a person who was not
[00:27:45] time, among them, among them. But then that means
[00:27:50] moment, because if there have to be messages about what to do with the
[00:27:53] body, I mean, because you talk
[00:27:56] about it right then, what
[00:28:00] moment. Now, if there is an exchange of messages, then that means
[00:28:04] they killed her later, we said, "Hey, what do we do with
[00:28:07] the body?" Of course, well, you see that also think of it this way, those people lived
[00:28:11] in some way in solitude among themselves, but in absolute
[00:28:15] solitude in the middle of nowhere, so the times are different,
[00:28:18] you understand? They are interpreted differently, and for them, 7
[00:28:22] hours, there's no one there, so well, they have time to see what
[00:28:26] they do with a body, yes, in the area, there are a little
[00:28:29] less than six families approximately who live there,
[00:28:32] and many do it permanently, and others are
[00:28:36] families of the laborers who come and go, as was the case with
[00:28:39] Rosa and Inauel, who had their home, their
[00:28:43] dwelling was located in Esauce, the town of Esauce, which is where
[00:28:46] Rosa travels on Friday,
[00:28:49] and where she had this party that we said
[00:28:53] was her alibi to show that she
[00:28:57] had not been at the place and at the time of the crime,
[00:29:00] but that's why I say there are very few families, it's an
[00:29:04] inhospitable and very desolate place, so it's probable that the
[00:29:08] primary crime scene was in another place different from where the
[00:29:11] disposal was made, and they killed her, they
[00:29:14] left the body to rest, and then they
[00:29:17] disposed of it, they totally had time, they had a lot of time for the life they
[00:29:21] led in the middle of nowhere, one day, two
[00:29:25] days, three days maybe, imagine that the last
[00:29:28] contact Nancy's son has with Nancy
[00:29:32] is on the 7th, and the complaint is on the 15th, it's
[00:29:35] a lot of time, a week, eight days, imagine the time you have to see what you do with a
[00:29:39] body, in such a context, no, and they didn't take it very far, ultimately,
[00:29:43] 2 km in the end because they
[00:29:45] trusted perhaps that
[00:29:48] the vegetation, the place itself,
[00:29:51] the swamps would help to hide the
[00:29:54] body, but you see how
[00:29:58] they threw the bag and you say these people
[00:30:01] are not very smart, or
[00:30:05] this is we are talking about
[00:30:08] inexperienced people, clearly, totally, of course, of course,
[00:30:11] I insist on this,
[00:30:15] some confused person wants
[00:30:18] to imply, that there is power behind this. If there were power,
[00:30:22] this would not happen, guys,
[00:30:25] this does not happen, leaving a body exposed for a drone
[00:30:29] or a helicopter to pass by, or for someone on horseback to arrive. No,
[00:30:33] it is not professional and it is not from power. How are you guys? Melina Rulo,
[00:30:36] how are you guys? Good, everything in order, once again here. Well, and
[00:30:40] this case continues, which has news and which
[00:30:44] makes us a little more indignant every day.
[00:30:47] Parocente, no, the teachers from all over the country, saying, "The conditions in which rural
[00:30:51] teachers are working cannot be like this," who are writing to us on the other hand, and
[00:30:55] it will surely happen to you too, guys. Well,
[00:30:57] they tell how they work. We said that from.