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[00:00:00] A ver, a ver, hay información de último momento, por favor, Alejandra, José, escuchen, eh,
[00:00:03] por favor, es importante,
[00:00:07] último momento, 2 de la
[00:00:10] tarde, 29 minutos, en la
[00:00:13] pantalla de crónica exclusivo, la información
[00:00:16] exclusiva sobre el femicidio de
[00:00:20] Nancy,
[00:00:24] femicidio
[00:00:25] conmoción.
[00:00:31] Así encontraban el cuerpo de la
[00:00:34] maestra,
[00:00:39] the planted hat, which is what,
[00:00:43] intensamente
[00:00:46] en las inmediaciones de la escuela rural donde Nancy
[00:00:49] lamentablemente fue asesinada, encontraron el cuerpo
[00:00:52] place where she was
[00:00:55] murdered, but rather the place where she was
[00:00:59] discarded. It could even be a secondary discard
[00:01:03] scenario, there we are seeing the
[00:01:06] images, the firefighters, the experts,
[00:01:09] that that that swampy area where Nancy's body
[00:01:13] you decide will be fine, did, the appears semi-submerged with a bag with her
[00:01:16] purse, her belongings. They tell me about scratches on her
[00:01:20] wrists, wrists, meaning
[00:01:23] they held her or Nancy defended herself,
[00:01:26] she defended herself, or Nancy defended herself and it resulted in that.
[00:01:40] in that journey where two mounted police officers found it, just meters before they had found
[00:01:43] something, do you know what they had found? What?
[00:01:46] A beret, they had found a beret and that beret, do you know
[00:01:50] who it belonged to, who
[00:01:52] yes, yes, yes, it will reason the was recognized, a beret belonging to Ireneo
[00:01:56] Sarza, meaning, for us to have an idea, we have a
[00:01:59] school. We have the shed 150m
[00:02:03] away and further away we have the spot where Nancy's
[00:02:06] body was found, in that stretch, on that road,
[00:02:10] many meters before they find Sarza's
[00:02:13] beret, so the search gradually reached this
[00:02:16] point, but something important that Alejandra José told us and it's their big question
[00:02:20] and everyone's big question, was the
[00:02:24] body placed there, did the police
[00:02:27] pass by that place before and not
[00:02:29] beyond this, maybe this see it? Guys,
[00:02:33] yes, listen, yes, of course, all this
[00:02:36] makes sense, listen, they
[00:02:38] less, at took the time to clean up, logically,
[00:02:41] not all the school, to remove
[00:02:45] fingerprints and everything, and they're going to leave the hat, they're going
[00:02:48] to leave, there's something else here,
[00:02:51] guys, why do they want to make
[00:02:54] Sarza look like it's obvious they want to finish
[00:02:58] this here, let's see,
[00:03:03] because what you're saying is important and your testimony is key to me because the
[00:03:05] family
[00:03:08] always intuits what ends up happening, they know things, they have information that we don't have, you're
[00:03:12] on air in Crónica, the whole country is watching us, we thank the
[00:03:14] audience that accompanies us, what do you want to say, say it
[00:03:18] plainly and
[00:03:20] simply, it's time for the
[00:03:24] truth, what do you think happened here, what are they hiding, because sometimes
[00:03:28] TV advances more than... an
[00:03:30] investigation,
[00:03:33] I don't know what they're hiding, but what I want to tell you, if they took the
[00:03:36] trouble to clean the school, to
[00:03:39] your day. Come on Flor, I clean the traces and everything, and now, now they found the hat
[00:03:43] near Nancy, this and that, it's more than
[00:03:46] suspicious that they want to finish the investigation already, these
[00:03:50] five detainees are this, they did this and that, that's it, but
[00:03:54] excuse me, excuse me, excuse me, you're saying that these
[00:03:57] are little birds, they are the typical ones who... work in the
[00:04:01] field, the fall guys, fall guys, no, they are not little
[00:04:04] birds, they are criminals who
[00:04:07] with suspension, do have to rot in jail, but there's more here, there's something
[00:04:09] else, yes, there's more, there's something, wait, wait, because it's important, something is being hidden, but if they are
[00:04:13] planting, according to Alejandra's statements, Sarza's hat
[00:04:17] eh, the Gravity is a bike that there nearby, then
[00:04:19] the one that everyone thought was the main
[00:04:24] here, I walked with suspect of the material femicide, maybe it's not him, maybe
[00:04:27] there's something else. but Ale says not such a fall guy,
[00:04:31] but that there's someone else who's more concerned with leaving him the worst
[00:04:35] part of this horrendous crime, well and why not think about Rosa's husband, sorry to
[00:04:38] say it like that, but or Rosa's brother, brother, I followed you well
[00:04:42] Alejandra in that sense regarding what you brought up about the
[00:04:45] beret,
[00:04:49] how we followed you well in the reasoning about what you say about the beret
[00:04:53] as if they left everything so that it would seem
[00:04:56] like Sarza was in the worst place.
[00:05:00] mm Exactly, because if they took
[00:05:03] all the trouble to clean
[00:05:06] the school, making us believe that Nancy
[00:05:09] went to school so that the search would go the other way. And
[00:05:12] now we find ourselves with all this evidence, kid, also
[00:05:16] Ale, there's a, you know how they say, there's a bias towards
[00:05:20] this Sarza because Sarza was the drunk, the
[00:05:23] violent one, the foreman, the one who was closest to
[00:05:27] Nancy because he was in the shed, it's like
[00:05:30] he had all the numbers to take
[00:05:33] on the most serious crime, Sarza, he carried the mark not
[00:05:37] of well, he's the one who maybe harassed her, it was
[00:05:41] easier, maybe it was him because he also doesn't, yes, Ale
[00:05:44] sorry, I want to say this briefly, maybe it was him, he takes the blame
[00:05:48] because it was him, not that either, but
[00:05:51] let's say, what Nancy suspects, the beret, sorry, which is what Nancy suspects,
[00:05:55] maybe they want to involve Sarza more
[00:05:59] concretely by leaving that beret
[00:06:02] there and that he is actually an accomplice but not the material author, sorry
[00:06:06] anyway, Ale, before you answer calmly, that the prosecutor
[00:06:09] is not, I don't think, a baby. For a planted
[00:06:13] beret, they're not going to
[00:06:17] convict you. I don't think it's a
[00:06:20] enough, if we're saying it here, they've already written it down
[00:06:24] on a blackboard where they're
[00:06:26] doing the investigation, Alejandra, you have the floor.
[00:06:29] eh let's
[00:06:33] see uh all the things I
[00:06:36] have to say are erased, I didn't say he's
[00:06:40] a baby, that he has something to do with it, he does, but it's very
[00:06:44] suspicious that this guy makes all those maneuvers,
[00:06:48] oh, he also left the beret, I forgot the
[00:06:50] beret,
[00:06:52] sure, sure, it seems all very obvious, yes, yes, very
[00:06:56] very staged, no,
[00:06:59] exactly, it seems the same to me,
[00:07:04] same way, it seems the same to
[00:07:08] me,
[00:07:11] but... you're saying and forgive me if one wants to know
[00:07:14] a little more, the
[00:07:17] children, you, don't you have some kind of
[00:07:21] idea that they used to talk with Nancy off the
[00:07:24] record at home, she sometimes told them, no, because
[00:07:28] such a person said or there's such a problem
[00:07:32] and they don't want to say it, beyond the written letter that she said,
[00:07:36] Ale just said that she felt observed, right,
[00:07:41] is the moment.
[00:08:13] the issue of the complaint wasn't going to be what
[00:08:17] she did, what she did and
[00:08:19] that she said yes, yes, go
[00:08:23] ahead, but then she started to change her
[00:08:26] attitude towards her and it was like
[00:08:30] silently
[00:08:33] ah wait José, explain that again, that your mom talked to her
[00:08:37] sister and what did her sister tell her, explain
[00:08:40] that again, she told her that
[00:08:54] that suddenly her attitude changed and in what sense had her
[00:08:58] attitude changed it was like she started
[00:09:02] not to answer certain questions
[00:09:05] already like important and when was that that she
[00:09:09] perceived that change in attitude, how many did she tell you about that?
[00:09:13] your mother uh, I wouldn't know when
[00:09:17] it was, but a month
[00:09:19] ago,
[00:09:23] a month or so, that is, something she couldn't
[00:09:27] explain why it had clearly made Lourdes
[00:09:30] go from being a more ...
[00:09:33] close person, she became more distant, notice this data
[00:09:37] too that I give you, it's
[00:09:40] if it's about a month ago, the wilders arrived?
[00:09:42] Yes, if it's about a month ago that Nancy had talked to her sister
[00:09:46] about this, it's a month after having
[00:09:50] written that letter and having made the presentation to the
[00:09:53] ministry, so these circumstances could also
[00:09:55] be linked, why Lourdes starts to mistreat her or
[00:09:59] not answer certain things, when Nancy had
[00:10:02] made this complaint a month ago, I mean, maybe there's a link between both
[00:10:06] things,
[00:10:09] clearly yes, yes, clearly yes,
[00:10:12] let's analyze these exclusive chronicle videos, which
[00:10:15] is the place where they found the body and where
[00:10:18] they found the elements, let's analyze the
[00:10:22] full screen and you narrate it because we can't really
[00:10:25] see the facts, if we see it once, twice, three times, tell me what you're
[00:10:29] seeing at first glance, you're not
[00:10:32] seeing it, but it's not very clean,
[00:10:36] it sounds to me like this is planted, it sounds to me that this is a planted scene,
[00:10:39] you have boots for the neighborhood, a zone where it's full of mud and the boots are
[00:10:43] immaculate, we'll see it there, you have a bag that is
[00:10:46] immaculate,
[00:10:53] how do they come up with the idea that the bag... the purse, the purse is
[00:10:56] something, let's see, who's going to carry, if you're going to move the
[00:11:00] body, the purse, that's why they carried the
[00:11:03] body and the purse and when they finished burying it, they left the purse next
[00:11:06] to it,
[00:11:09] that purse is more planted than a tree,
[00:11:13] let's also remember that first this marriage of Rosa
[00:11:17] and Rojas, when quickly I think
[00:11:21] José or Sebastián, the other son, tells him please go to the school to see where my mom is.
[00:12:25] for some reason she was locking herself in early, she was already locking herself in
[00:12:29] early, of course, she was locking herself in early,
[00:12:32] José, Ale, to the whole audience, how could she not be
[00:12:36] scared if she was riding a horse for 3 and a half
[00:12:39] hours to a field with all
[00:12:42] men, she only had Rosa as a refuge who then ends up betraying her, and
[00:12:45] obviously how could she not feel observed, she was alone in the middle of
[00:12:48] nowhere, it doesn't make sense to me that the ministry didn't
[00:12:51] evaluate that they were going to send a woman alone there, it never happened.
[00:13:01] Let's put a female police officer alone at the
[00:13:04] door of the most complicated settlement,
[00:13:08] alone standing there, it's obviously dangerous, this is the same,
[00:13:11] but that's why what I'm saying is they didn't find out until this happened
[00:13:14] with Nancy unfortunately what that school was like, they never saw
[00:13:18] it, Rulo, but listen, forgive me, in all schools they don't appear in an excel and
[00:13:22] say these are all the schools we have, there isn't a survey. Rulo,
[00:13:25] we talked about how at one point there were clothes that were found
[00:13:28] burned, why didn't they burn everything, why didn't they burn that
[00:13:31] bag, the bag with the cell phone, but also another
[00:13:35] thing guys, it rained for a lot of days, we know that, there were floods, we were working with the
[00:13:39] floods in Corrientes, it doesn't have a single mud stain, sorry,
[00:13:42] sorry, sorry, the bag is not flooded, it's not flooded, it's talking, it's not
[00:13:46] coming out, it's talking, it's not coming out, come on,
[00:13:49] that's another thing that seems very strange to me, because
[00:13:53] I mean, when did the news come out?
[00:14:25] the same we see, it can't have rained so long and
[00:14:28] there's a backpack in perfect condition except for that jacket that's buried
[00:14:32] underneath, besides the hat, these are also
[00:14:36] very obvious things, they won't take it into account if
[00:14:40] she had walked there, now
[00:14:43] imagine she would have had to walk there with the bag
[00:14:49] the bag here and what happened there
[00:14:52] she died in a way we don't know, a lightning bolt struck her, she fell and
[00:14:56] tripped, why do I say this, because if they had
[00:15:00] murdered her somewhere else and transferred her, they wouldn't transfer the bag, now they wanted to
[00:15:03] discard the body, absolutely, but I can tell you one thing,
[00:15:07] we are dealing with a group of five people, who perhaps
[00:15:11] did not plan among the five what eventually
[00:15:14] happened, and there may have been a series of clumsiness and
[00:15:18] misunderstandings, but either way, Alejandro,
[00:15:21] José, for you, what is the main suspicion, the
[00:15:25] gut feeling that they tried to sexually assault Nancy or that
[00:15:29] they tried to threaten Nancy for another
[00:15:31] reason,
[00:15:34] I wish we knew, what we do know.
[00:16:23] I'm not talking about pigs, I'm with Lore, there are a lot of insects, a lot of
[00:16:26] things flying around,
[00:16:29] everything, but I mean a pig is a much more terrestrial
[00:16:33] animal, it's very rare for a pig to be in that
[00:16:36] area.
[00:16:41] No, it walks around the area and then lays down, I get the feeling that maybe, besides we're talking about, sorry, what, what
[00:16:44] physique did
[00:16:48] Nancy have, Alejandro, a woman of
[00:16:50] 1.60, 65 m, more
[00:16:53] or less, more
[00:16:55] or less 65 kg,
[00:16:59] in good athletic
[00:17:02] shape, that is, a woman of about 60 kg, for
[00:17:04] example,
[00:17:08] yes, yes, well,
[00:17:11] 60, 65 kg,
[00:17:14] the truth is that a group of people must have participated
[00:17:18] just as the first detained peon said,
[00:17:21] of course, the peon detained for false testimony, which we'll have to see if
[00:17:24] this testimony was so false,
[00:17:28] no, such, what a thing, what a terrible thing to think about this
[00:17:31] horrendous end, uh, Alejandra, José,
[00:17:35] we have more information, uh, can you wait a moment
[00:17:39] please, we have some tips,
[00:17:42] wait a second, we'll be right back,
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