CSPAN2 — The Thom Hartmann Program
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[00:00:00] JUST NEED YOU TO DRAG ALL OF YOUR FAMILY, ALL OF YOUR
[00:00:03] FRIENDS, UM, AND THE GROCERY, YOU KNOW, CLERK AT, IN THE
[00:00:07] CHECKOUT LINE TO THE POLLS, MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE THOSE VOTE PLANS.
[00:00:10] >> I TALK TO YOU IN THIS REGION
[00:00:12] NOW. LINDSAY. DAINES. >> OH, WOW.
[00:00:15] >> THIS IS A GREAT INTRODUCTION,
[00:00:18] ACTUALLY. DO YOU MIND GIVING A LITTLE BIT OF AN INTRODUCTION?
[00:00:21] BECAUSE I KNOW, BECAUSE WE ARE
[00:00:25] SO EXCITED THAT GRANT JUST JOINED OUR TEAM AND HAS MADE IT OFFICIAL. SO, GRANT, WILL YOU
[00:00:29] JUST SAY HELLO AND TELL US ABOUT YOURSELF?
[00:00:33] >> SURE. HI, EVERYONE. MY NAME IS GRANT. I'M NEWLY WORKING FOR LINDSAY'S CAMPAIGN. I'M VERY
[00:00:37] EXCITED. I'M FROM MASON CITY. LIVED HERE ALL THROUGHOUT HIGH
[00:00:41] SCHOOL, GRADUATED, WENT TO COLLEGE DOWN IN TEXAS, AND HAVE
[00:00:44] NOW COME BACK. AND I'M JUST VERY
[00:00:45] EXCITED TO BE BACK IN IOWA WITH MY FAMILY AND FRIENDS AND THE
[00:00:49] COMMUNITY THAT I REALLY LOVE AND CARE ABOUT. UM, I AM WORKING FOR
[00:00:52] LINDSAY AS THE, AS A FIELD ORGANIZER, WHICH MEANS IT'S MY
[00:00:56] JOB TO HELP ORGANIZE VOLUNTEERS AND DOOR KNOCKING AND PHONE
[00:01:00] BANKING AND MAKING SURE THAT WE
[00:01:02] COME TOGETHER TO GET PEOPLE MOVING FOR LINDSAY AND MAKE
[00:01:06] THINGS HAPPEN. SO, YES, I WOULD LOVE TO SPEAK TO ANY OF YOU, IF ANY OF YOU ARE INTERESTED AT ALL
[00:01:10] IN VOLUNTEERING, UM, THAT CAN BE PHONE. >> BANKING AND WE'LL LEAVE THIS
[00:01:14] PROGRAM HERE, BUT YOU CAN FINISH WATCHING AT C-SPAN.
[00:01:16] >> DOT. ORG AS WE BEGIN OUR
[00:01:19] FINAL DAY OF LIVE SIMULCAST
[00:01:21] COVERAGE IN PORTLAND, OREGON. HEARING FROM PROGRESSIVE COMMENTATOR AND AUTHOR THOM
[00:01:25] HARTMANN WITH HIS TAKE ON THE
[00:01:27] NEWS OF THE DAY. YOU'RE
[00:01:30] WATCHING C-SPAN 2.
[00:01:42] >> TO YOU, IT IS NORMALLY ON OUR
[00:01:45] PROGRAM, WE CALL THIS ANYTHING
[00:01:48] GOES FRIDAY, ALTHOUGH WE'VE BEEN KIND OF DOING ANYTHING GOES
[00:01:51] SUMMER. GENERALLY, WE ASK PEOPLE
[00:01:55] TO ONLY CALL IN ABOUT THE TOPICS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. BUT
[00:01:58] THROUGHOUT THE SUMMER, IT'S BEEN, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER'S ON
[00:02:01] YOUR MIND. AND THAT'S ALWAYS THE
[00:02:05] CASE. ON FRIDAYS. UH, YESTERDAY OR THE DAY BEFORE, I GUESS IT WAS ONE OR THE OTHER. ANYWAY, I,
[00:02:09] I WROTE A PIECE AND TALKED HERE
[00:02:18] ABOUT BOB KENNEDY AND HOW HE'S
[00:02:24] SCREWED UP THE, UH, YOU KNOW, THE WHOLE HEALTH AND HUMAN
[00:02:28] SERVICES THING. UM, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, EVEN, UH, APPARENTLY, UH,
[00:02:31] HAS LIED TO CONGRESS. AND, YOU KNOW, I WAS CALLING FOR THE IMPEACHMENT OF HIM FOR, FOR
[00:02:34] BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, THE DEATHS
[00:02:36] IN AMERICA. WE HAD TWO, TWO PEOPLE DIE. ONE OF THEM, AN
[00:02:41] INFANT OF MEASLES IN
[00:02:45] PENNSYLVANIA THIS WEEK. AND, OF
[00:02:49] COURSE, BOB AND, AND, UH, I
[00:02:53] THINK DR. OZ, TOO, THESE, THESE, UH, YOU KNOW, SHILLS AND LICKSPITTLES IN THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION, UH, THEY SAID, WELL, YOU KNOW, IT DIDN'T
[00:02:57] ACTUALLY DIE OF MEASLES. YOU KNOW, IT'S, UH, AND THAT'S THE
[00:02:58] THING. I MEAN, MEASLES CAUSES,
[00:03:02] YOU KNOW, LIKE, YOU KNOW, BRAIN HEMORRHAGES OR SOMETHING, OR PNEUMONIA ACTUALLY IS ONE OF THE MORE COMMON THINGS. I THINK THAT
[00:03:05] ACTUALLY THE CHILD DIED OF PNEUMONIA, BUT IT'S CAUSED BY THE MEASLES. AND THIS WAS THE
[00:03:08] SAME SCAM THAT THESE GUYS TRIED
[00:03:12] TO RUN ON COVID. AND TO THIS DAY, THEY'RE SAYING, NO, THAT MILLION PEOPLE IN AMERICA
[00:03:16] DIDN'T DIE OF COVID. UM, YOU
[00:03:18] KNOW, THEY DIED OF STROKES AND
[00:03:22] HEART ATTACKS. AND, AND, YOU KNOW, WHICH IS ARGUABLY TRUE. BUT THOSE STROKES AND HEART
[00:03:25] ATTACKS WERE CAUSED BY THE COVID. IT'S LIKE, AND THE KID DIED BECAUSE WHATEVER IT WAS THAT ACTUALLY ENDED HIS BODY,
[00:03:28] YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S LIKE,
[00:03:32] IT'S LIKE, UH, YOU KNOW, SAYING
[00:03:36] IF YOU, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE WALKING
[00:03:38] DOWN THE STREET AND A PIANO
[00:03:42] FALLS ON YOUR HEAD, YOU DIDN'T DIE FROM A PIANO FALLING ON YOUR HEAD. YOU DIED BECAUSE YOUR
[00:03:44] SKULL WAS CRUSHED. UH, THIS IS CRAZY. BUT ANYHOW, WHEN, WHEN
[00:03:48] BOB WAS BEING INTERVIEWED BY THE UNITED STATES SENATE FOR THIS
[00:03:52] POSITION AS OUR CHIEF HEALTH OFFICER, THIS GUY WHO HAS ABSOLUTELY NO TRAINING IN HEALTH, UH, HAS WRITTEN AND SAID
[00:03:55] THAT IT WAS HEROIN THAT ALLOWED HIM TO GET THROUGH COLLEGE. HE
[00:03:58] WAS A HEROIN ADDICT WHO EATS
[00:04:02] ROADKILL AND GOT A BRAIN WORM FROM IT. UH, WHO HAS NO MEDICAL
[00:04:06] TRAINING, BUT HAS BEEN THE LEADER OF AN ANTI-VAX PROGRAM
[00:04:09] FOR YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS.
[00:04:12] UH, YOU KNOW, THE CHILDREN'S HEALTH DEFENSE, I THINK, OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. UM, ANYHOW,
[00:04:15] WHEN HE WAS TESTIFYING BEFORE CONGRESS, SENATOR RON WYDEN, MY
[00:04:19] SENATOR FROM OREGON, ASKED HIM,
[00:04:26] DID ISN'T IT TRUE THAT YOU WENT
[00:04:28] TO SAMOA, WHICH IS AN AMERICAN
[00:04:32] TERRITORY, AND, UH, AND YOU TOLD
[00:04:35] THOSE PEOPLE BASICALLY THAT THEY SHOULDN'T GET VACCINATED, YOU
[00:04:38] KNOW, FOR, FOR MEASLES? AND BOB SAID, NO, NO, I DIDN'T. THAT
[00:04:41] MEETING HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH
[00:04:43] MEASLES. YEAH, YEAH. HIS EXACT
[00:04:46] WORDS WERE, IT HAD NOTHING TO DO
[00:04:47] WITH VACCINES WELL, NOW, THE
[00:04:52] LETTERS HAVE COME OUT. HE WAS HAVING CORRESPONDENCE WITH THE GOVERNOR OF SAMOA, AND HE TALKED ABOUT HOW HE WANTED TO COME AND
[00:04:55] TALK ABOUT THE MMR VACCINE, OR
[00:04:56] AT LEAST ABOUT VACCINES IN
[00:05:02] GENERAL. THE, UH, UH, THE GOVERNOR, UH, KENNEDY TOLD THE
[00:05:04] SAMOAN PRIME MINISTER, EXCUSE ME, HE WANTED TO STUDY THE
[00:05:08] MEASLES, MUMPS, AND RUBELLA VACCINE IN THE PACIFIC ISLAND
[00:05:12] NATION AND USE THE WORDS VACCINE
[00:05:14] OR VACCINATION EIGHT TIMES. SO JOSH SCHWARTZ, WHO IS A
[00:05:18] PROFESSOR OF LAW AT GEORGETOWN
[00:05:20] UNIVERSITY LAW CENTER, SAYS LYING TO CONGRESS IS A CRIME.
[00:05:23] WHETHER OR NOT THE WITNESSES UNDER OATH. THIS IS ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT THE
[00:05:26] REPUBLICANS HAVE DONE IS, UM,
[00:05:28] WITH ALL THESE PEOPLE THAT
[00:05:32] THEY'RE BRINGING FORWARD, WHETHER THEY'RE JUDGES WHO WANT
[00:05:35] TO BE, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, YOU KNOW, DOMINI, DOMINI, DOMINI,
[00:05:39] OR, UH, BLESSED BY THE SENATE, UH, OR, OR CONFIRMED ACTUALLY IS THE WORD OR WHETHER THEY'RE
[00:05:43] CABINET SECRETARIES, THEY REFUSE TO PUT THEM UNDER OATH, AS IF
[00:05:46] THAT'S MAKES A DIFFERENCE, RIGHT? SO THAT IF THEY LIE TO
[00:05:48] CONGRESS, THEY WON'T HAVE QUITE
[00:05:50] AS MUCH LEGAL LIABILITY. BUT THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS THAT THE
[00:05:53] LAW SAYS THAT IT'S A IT'S A CRIME TO LIE TO CONGRESS,
[00:05:56] WHETHER YOU'RE UNDER OATH OR NOT. YOU KNOW, WHETHER I SWEAR
[00:05:59] TO GOD, I'LL YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO THAT. YOU'RE
[00:06:03] STILL. SO, UM, JOSH GREEN, A
[00:06:07] MEDICAL DOCTOR WHO TRAVELED TO SAMOA TO HELP WITH THE MEASLES RESPONSE. BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENED WAS, AFTER BOB WENT AND TOLD HIM
[00:06:10] NOT TO GET THE VACCINE. UH, APPARENTLY, A LOT OF PEOPLE
[00:06:13] DIDN'T GET THE VACCINE. AND 80
[00:06:17] SOME ODD PEOPLE, I BELIEVE IT WAS 83, MOST OF THEM CHILDREN. YEAH, 83 PEOPLE, MOSTLY CHILDREN
[00:06:19] UNDER FIVE, DIED OF MEASLES OR
[00:06:23] MEASLES RELATED ILLNESS. AND,
[00:06:26] UH, SO, UH, MIKE, MY SON, AS I
[00:06:29] MENTIONED, MY SENATOR, RON WYDEN, IS SAYING, UH, BOB'S
[00:06:32] PLATFORM, RFK'S PLATFORM IS BUILT ON LIES AND GRIFTS THAT
[00:06:35] LEAVE A TRAIL OF DEAD CHILDREN IN THEIR WAKE. THERE ARE
[00:06:38] CONSEQUENCES FOR LYING TO
[00:06:42] CONGRESS. AND HE IS ASKING HIS REPUBLICAN COLLEAGUES WHO
[00:06:46] CONTROL THE SENATE, HE CAN'T DO
[00:06:47] THIS HIMSELF. BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, JOHN THUNE COULD HE'S ASKING
[00:06:51] THEM TO ISSUE A CRIMINAL REFERRAL OF KENNEDY TO THE
[00:06:54] DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE FOR LYING
[00:06:57] TO CONGRESS. AND OPEN AN INVESTIGATION. AND FRANKLY, I'M
[00:07:00] TELLING YOU, IF THE DEMOCRATS TAKE THE SENATE THIS YEAR, THEY
[00:07:04] WILL DO THAT THEMSELVES. SO, YOU
[00:07:07] KNOW, HERE WE HAVE I MEAN, THIS IS JUST SO COMMON. WE'VE WE'VE
[00:07:11] GOT EXAMPLE. AFTER LITERALLY EVERY JUDGE THIS YEAR. AND LAST
[00:07:15] YEAR THAT CAME BEFORE THE SENATE FOR CONFIRMATION, I THINK THERE'S BEEN SOMETHING LIKE BETWEEN 50 AND 80 OF THEM. I
[00:07:18] FORGET THE EXACT NUMBER. UM,
[00:07:22] EVERY SINGLE JUDGE WAS ASKED BY A DEMOCRAT WHO WON THE 2020 ELECTION, AND EVERY ONE HAS
[00:07:26] REFUSED TO SAY, I MEAN, OR LIED
[00:07:28] ABOUT IT. IT'S CRAZY.
[00:07:33] >> [MUSIC]
[00:07:42] [MUSIC] >> THIS IS THE THOM HARTMANN PROGRAM.
[00:07:45] >> HEY. >> HAPPY FRIDAY, TGIF, SHABBAT
[00:07:49] SHALOM. JUMAH MUBARAK, WHATEVER IT IS FOR YOU, IT'S THE END OF THE WEEK HERE. UH, OUR LAST DAY OF THE WEEK AND THE BEGINNING OF
[00:07:53] THE WEEKEND. ANYTHING GOES.
[00:07:56] WEEKEND. UH, A LOT TO TALK ABOUT
[00:07:58] TODAY. DON'T PUT THE C. UH,
[00:08:01] EXCUSE ME. DON'T PUT, LET ME
[00:08:06] START OVER AGAIN. PUT THE C E Os
[00:08:09] IN HANDCUFFS. TRUMP IS A. TRUMP IS ARRESTING THE WRONG PEOPLE. WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT IN JUST A
[00:08:13] MOMENT. ALSO, DON'T LET THE WORD SOCIALISM SCARE YOU. PROGRESSIVES JUST WANT A COUNTRY THAT WORKS FOR EVERYONE. UH, WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT. AND THE
[00:08:17] FDA HAS APPROVED THAT COVID VACCINE THAT I WAS RANTING ABOUT
[00:08:21] A COUPLE OF DAYS AGO. PROBLEM IS THAT BECAUSE BOB KENNEDY TRIED
[00:08:24] TO PACK THE, THE VACCINE
[00:08:26] ADVISORY BOARD WITH RIGHT WING
[00:08:30] ANTI-VACCINE CRANKS THERE'S A GOOD CHANCE YOUR INSURANCE
[00:08:34] COMPANY WON'T PAY FOR IT. AND
[00:08:34] THERE IS NO GUIDANCE AS TO WHO
[00:08:39] CAN GET IT AND UNDER WHAT CIRCUMSTANCES. SO IT'S GETTING
[00:08:42] WEIRD. I'LL GIVE YOU THE DETAILS ON THAT IN A FEW MINUTES. IN OUR SECOND HOUR, ALEX LAWSON IS GOING TO DROP BY
[00:08:46] THE PRESIDENT OF SOCIAL SECURITY WORKS, THE SOCIAL SECURITY TRUST
[00:08:49] FUND IS RUNNING OUT. LET'S TALK
[00:08:51] REAL SOLUTIONS. OH, AND BY THE WAY, BABY BOOMERS DIDN'T STEAL
[00:08:55] THE MONEY AND ALSO, IN THE SECOND HOUR OF OUR PROGRAM, WHY
[00:08:59] IS WHISKEY PETE HEGSETH BUILDING
[00:09:01] A PENTAGON TROLL ARMY? I THOUGHT
[00:09:05] HAVING THE GOVERNMENT PRODUCE PROPAGANDA WAS AGAINST THE LAW.
[00:09:08] AND ALSO, SUPERSONIC JETS ARE
[00:09:10] ALMOST HERE. 3.5 HOURS FROM FROM NEW YORK TO LONDON. THIS IS
[00:09:13] GOING TO BE INTERESTING. IN OUR
[00:09:15] THIRD HOUR. ARE WE ALL JELLY ROLL TODAY? I DON'T KNOW IF YOU
[00:09:19] CAUGHT JELLY ROLL LAST NIGHT ON
[00:09:22] JIMMY KIMMEL'S SHOW, BUT IT'S ON YOUTUBE. THE MONOLOGUE, IT'S REALLY WORTH WATCHING. WE'LL
[00:09:25] TALK ABOUT THAT. AND ALSO, IS ANYBODY ELSE CONCERNED THAT
[00:09:29] TRUMP IS STARTING A CRYPTO BANK
[00:09:31] THAT IS 49% OWNED BY THE ABU
[00:09:35] DHABI SHEIKH, KNOWN AS THE SPY
[00:09:36] SHEIKH, WHO'S IN CHARGE OF THEIR
[00:09:41] INTELLIGENCE SERVICES. AND THIS IS A COUNTRY WITH, YOU KNOW, TREATIES WITH CHINA. UH, WE'LL
[00:09:45] GET TO THAT IN THE THIRD HOUR.
[00:09:46] BUT MY DAILY TAKE TODAY OVER AT
[00:09:51] HARTMAN REPORT.COM IS, UH, IS TITLED PUT THE CEOS IN HANDCUFFS
[00:09:55] TRUST. TRUMP'S ICE IS ARRESTING THE WRONG PEOPLE. AND THERE'S A
[00:09:59] SIMPLE SOLUTION TO OUR SO-CALLED
[00:10:02] ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION PROBLEM.
[00:10:04] AND, AND RONALD REAGAN CAME UP
[00:10:09] WITH THIS SOLUTION. NOW I HAVE A
[00:10:12] LONG HISTORY OF NOT PRAISING RONALD REAGAN, BUT HE WAS RIGHT
[00:10:15] ABOUT THIS. AND I, I NEVER
[00:10:18] THOUGHT I'D SAY THOSE WORDS. AND SEAN IS LOOKING SHOCKED.
[00:10:21] I'LL GET TO THAT IN JUST A MOMENT. BUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S
[00:10:24] HAPPENING IS THAT RIGHT NOW, THERE'S THIS GROWING MOVEMENT IN
[00:10:28] AMERICA TO DEFUND AND SHUT DOWN.
[00:10:32] ICE AND FIRE AND PROSECUTE THEIR BRUTAL AND MURDEROUS THUGS AND
[00:10:35] CLOSE THEIR CONCENTRATION CAMPS.
[00:10:38] FOX NEWS FOUND 59% OF VOTERS RIGHT ACROSS THE POLITICAL SPECTRUM. IT DIDN'T PRETTY MUCH
[00:10:42] MATTER BY PARTY WHO SAY ICE IS TOO AGGRESSIVE. NEARLY TWO
[00:10:45] THIRDS OF VOTERS TOLD MARIST THE
[00:10:48] AGENCY HAS GONE TOO FAR, AND
[00:10:50] SUPPORT FOR ABOLISHING ICE HAS
[00:10:52] DOUBLED SINCE 2018, AND, YOU
[00:10:55] KNOW, MOST PEOPLE IN THAT MOVEMENT, IN THAT, YOU KNOW, END
[00:10:59] ICE, DEFUND ICE, SHUT DOWN ICE, CLOSE THE CONCENTRATION CAMPS.
[00:11:02] MOST PEOPLE IN THAT MOVEMENT POINT TO THE BRUTALITY AND THE
[00:11:04] AND THE BARBARITY OF THEIR
[00:11:08] ACTIONS. BUT I WOULD, I WOULD
[00:11:11] MAKE THE CASE THAT THERE'S AN EVEN STRONGER ARGUMENT FOR
[00:11:13] SHUTTING DOWN ICE. AND THAT IS
[00:11:17] THAT THERE'S SIMPLY NOT NEEDED
[00:11:19] NOW, FOLLOW ALONG WITH ME. THIS, YOU KNOW, REQUIRES A LITTLE BIT
[00:11:22] OF THOUGHT, BUT IT MAKES A WHOLE
[00:11:25] LOT OF SENSE. AND MITT ROMNEY
[00:11:28] AND RONALD REAGAN AGREE WITH ME
[00:11:30] RIGHT NOW. WE'VE GOT, LIKE, FARMERS IN MAINE WHO ARE
[00:11:34] FREAKING OUT BECAUSE THE, UH, THEY WERE JUST NOTIFIED THAT ICE IS FLYING DRONES OVER THEIR
[00:11:37] FIELDS LOOKING FOR BROWN SKINNED
[00:11:42] PEOPLE IN CONNECTICUT. THESE MASKED, BLOODTHIRSTY GOONS ARE DRAGGING PEOPLE OFF IN FRONT OF THEIR CHILDREN AT SCHOOL BUS
[00:11:45] STOPS. AT LEAST 25 PEOPLE IN A
[00:11:49] SINGLE DAY BUT HAVE YOU HEARD OF
[00:11:54] EVEN ONE RICH WHITE EMPLOYER OF
[00:11:59] UNDOCUMENTED PEOPLE GOING TO JAIL OR BEING ARRESTED BY ICE,
[00:12:03] OR BEING THROWN IN THOSE
[00:12:06] CONCENTRATION CAMPS? EVEN ONE. AND YET, THAT'S WHAT THE LAW
[00:12:10] AUTHORIZES. I HUSTED WELL,
[00:12:19] BECAUSE THIS IS NOT ABOUT
[00:12:21] STOPPING ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION. THE SIMPLE FACT OF THE MATTER IS
[00:12:25] THAT PEOPLE MEO THIS COUNTRY, BY AND LARGE, YOU KNOW,
[00:12:27] SOME PEOPLE COME TO THIS COUNTRY
[00:12:30] ACTUALLY FLEEING HORRORS, RIGHT? AND WE HAVE IMMIGRATION LAWS,
[00:12:32] AND WE HAVE ASYLUM LAWS THAT SHOULD PROTECT THEM. TRUMP IS
[00:12:35] REFUSING TO ENFORCE THOSE LAWS. MILLER AND, YOU KNOW, THESE
[00:12:39] THESE GOONS ARE REFUSING TO ENFORCE THOSE LAWS, BUT THEY'RE,
[00:12:42] THEY'RE BUT MOST PEOPLE COME HERE LOOKING FOR ECONOMIC
[00:12:45] OPPORTUNITY. THEY'RE LOOKING, YOU KNOW, TO, TO, TO MAKE ENOUGH
[00:12:49] MONEY TO SEND BACK HOME OR TO JUST BECOME A CITIZEN AND RAISE
[00:12:53] THEIR FAMILIES HERE IN THE, IN THE LAND OF PROMISE, RIGHT? THE
[00:12:56] AMERICAN DREAM. SO IF YOU DON'T WANT PEOPLE COMING INTO THIS
[00:12:59] COUNTRY NOW, THIS WHOLE
[00:13:01] ARGUMENT, BY THE WAY, IS PREDICATED ON KIND OF THAT
[00:13:04] ASSUMPTION OR A VARIATION OF IT, WHICH ITSELF CAN BE CHALLENGED.
[00:13:08] I THINK WE DO NEED IMMIGRATION. AND IN FACT, IMMIGRATION HAS
[00:13:11] ALWAYS BEEN A POSITIVE THING FOR AMERICA. BUT, YOU KNOW, YOU WANT
[00:13:15] RATIONAL IMMIGRATION. YOU WANT CONTROLLED AND REGULATED
[00:13:18] IMMIGRATION. AND SO HOW DO YOU
[00:13:20] DO THAT? IT'S VERY SIMPLE. YOU
[00:13:22] SIMPLY TELL EMPLOYERS, IF YOU
[00:13:25] HIRE SOMEBODY WHO IS HERE
[00:13:27] WITHOUT DOCUMENTATION, YOU GO TO
[00:13:30] JAIL. IT'S JUST THAT SIMPLE.
[00:13:33] BUT THE REALITY IS THAT STEPHEN
[00:13:38] MILLER AND DONALD TRUMP DON'T CARE. THIS IS NOT ABOUT ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION. YOU KNOW, IN THEIR MINDS, WHAT THIS IS REALLY ALL
[00:13:41] ABOUT IS GLEEFUL ENTERTAINMENT. THEY'RE JUST HAVING GREAT FUN,
[00:13:45] SLAPPING AROUND AND KILLING OFF,
[00:13:47] KILLING BLACK PEOPLE AND BROWN
[00:13:50] PEOPLE. MEAN, YOU WANT PROOF
[00:13:52] THAT THEY DON'T CARE. TRUMP
[00:13:54] HIRED UNDOCUMENTED WORKERS
[00:13:57] REPEATEDLY. HE HIRED A BUNCH OF POLISH UNDOCUMENTED WORKERS TO WORK ON TRUMP TOWER. AND THEN
[00:14:00] WHEN THEY WANTED TO GET PAID, HE
[00:14:03] PHONED THEM IN AND HAD HIM
[00:14:04] DEPORTED BACK TO POLAND HE
[00:14:08] ROUTINELY HIRES OR HAS HIRED, AS
[00:14:09] FORTUNE MAGAZINE NOTED, UNDOCUMENTED FORTUNE MAGAZINE
[00:14:13] SAID, QUOTE, TRUMP HIMSELF HAS BEEN ACCUSED OF EMPLOYING UNAUTHORIZED WORKERS AT HIS
[00:14:17] HOTELS, HIS GOLF COURSES AND HIS
[00:14:18] OTHER BUSINESSES SO HOW DO YOU
[00:14:22] DEAL WITH THIS? WELL, THE REST OF THE WORLD IS FAR MORE RATIONAL ABOUT THIS. I HAVE
[00:14:26] LIVED AND WORKED IN TWO
[00:14:32] DIFFERENT COUNTRIES OUTSIDE THE UNITED STATES. I LIVED IN ONE OF THEM. I WORKED IN BOTH OF THEM
[00:14:34] WHERE I HAD TO GET A WORK PERMIT
[00:14:36] AND A VISA IN ORDER TO GET A PAYCHECK. IN THOSE COUNTRIES,
[00:14:40] GERMANY AND AUSTRALIA WERE THE
[00:14:42] TWO COUNTRIES, AND MY EMPLOYERS
[00:14:47] WERE THE ONES WHO WERE SAYING, YOU GOT TO DO THIS. IT WASN'T,
[00:14:50] YOU KNOW, LIKE THE GOVERNMENT OF AUSTRALIA OR THE GOVERNMENT OF
[00:14:54] GERMANY. YOU KNOW, THEIR POLICE TRACKED ME DOWN OR ANYTHING. IT
[00:14:58] WAS THE EMPLOYERS, THE PEOPLE,
[00:15:01] THE PEOPLE, THE SPEAKING TOUR THAT I DID IN AUSTRALIA. AND THE YEAR THAT I LIVED IN GERMANY AND WORKED FOR A NONPROFIT, MY
[00:15:05] EMPLOYERS SAID TO ME, YOU HAVE TO FILL OUT THESE FORMS AND GET
[00:15:09] THIS PERMIT, BECAUSE IF YOU DON'T, I WILL BE HIT WITH A
[00:15:13] HUGE FINE, AND I COULD GO TO
[00:15:17] JAIL. AND, BUT, YOU KNOW,
[00:15:20] REPUBLICANS LOVE UNDOCUMENTED WORKERS, ACTUALLY, BECAUSE THEY CAN'T REPORT WAGE THEFT. THEY
[00:15:24] CAN'T COMPLAIN ABOUT DANGEROUS WORKING CONDITIONS. THEY CAN'T
[00:15:26] SIGN UP FOR A UNION. THEY'RE
[00:15:28] EASILY ABUSED AND EXPLOITED, AND GENERALLY, THEIR LABOR IS
[00:15:32] CHEAPER THAN, THAN CITIZENS. AND BUT THERE'S AN AMAZING HISTORY
[00:15:36] HERE. RONALD REAGAN IN 1986, WE
[00:15:38] FIRST, PRIOR TO 1986, IT WASN'T
[00:15:42] ILLEGAL TO HIRE PEOPLE WHO WERE NOT HERE, WHO ARE HERE WITHOUT
[00:15:45] DOCUMENTATION. BUT IN 86, REAGAN
[00:15:50] SIGNED THIS LAW. UH, YOU KNOW,
[00:15:53] THE IMMIGRATION REFORM AND CONTROL ACT OF 86. AND IN HIS SIGNING STATEMENT, HE SAID THE EMPLOYER SANCTIONS PROGRAM IS
[00:15:57] THE KEYSTONE AND MAJOR ELEMENT. IT WILL REMOVE THE INCENTIVE FOR ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION BY
[00:16:01] ELIMINATING THE JOB OPPORTUNITIES, WHICH DRAW ALIENS. HERE. THIS IS THE SAME
[00:16:04] THING THAT MITT ROMNEY RAN ON IN
[00:16:08] 2012. HE SAID, IF WE JUST, YOU
[00:16:12] KNOW, IF WE JUST THREATEN THE EMPLOYERS, THERE WON'T BE JOB OPPORTUNITIES. AND IF THERE'S
[00:16:15] NOT JOB OPPORTUNITIES, THEN
[00:16:18] PEOPLE WON'T COME. AND IT'S,
[00:16:20] IT'S, BUT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S NOT
[00:16:25] WHAT THEY'RE DOING. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THIS IS JUST SO SIMPLE. IT'S SO STRAIGHTFORWARD. WE
[00:16:29] NEED TO DO TWO THINGS. AND AS
[00:16:31] ADAM SCORER, UH, SCHROYER POINTED OUT IN THE ATLANTIC IN
[00:16:34] 2018, THE CRUELTY IS THE POINT.
[00:16:36] THIS IS ALL ABOUT PERFORMANCE.
[00:16:39] THIS IS THIS IS SO, I MEAN, ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS LOOK AT THE
[00:16:43] DHS PRESS RELEASES, THE MUG SHOTS, AND THEIR MONTAGES.
[00:16:46] TRUMP'S GLEEFUL, ALL CAPS CAP POSTS ON HIS NAZI INFESTED
[00:16:49] SOCIAL MEDIA SITE. AND TRAGIC. I MEAN, IT'S A SHOW THAT'S BEING
[00:16:52] PUT ON FOR THE RACISTS AMONG US. IT'S A SHOW BEING PUT ON FOR
[00:16:55] THE WHITE SUPREMACISTS. THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE DOING. THEY'RE NOT
[00:16:59] SERIOUSLY TRYING TO DEAL WITH IMMIGRATION. THEY'RE TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE TRYING TO MAKE
[00:17:03] AMERICA WHITE AGAIN. BASICALLY.
[00:17:05] AND TRAGICALLY, THE ENTIRE WORLD
[00:17:12] IS WATCHING WITH HORROR. WE NEED COMPREHENSIVE IMMIGRATION REFORM, AND WE NEED TO START
[00:17:15] PROSECUTING EMPLOYERS. UM,
[00:17:17] PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD STUFF.
[00:17:20] TEXAS DEMOCRAT VERONICA ESCOBAR
[00:17:22] HAS THIS DIGNITY ACT. REPUBLICAN
[00:17:24] SENATOR JAMES LANKFORD AUTHORED
[00:17:29] A PIECE OF LEGISLATION THAT HAD BIPARTISAN SUPPORT. AND TRUMP SAID THAT HE WANTED IT KILLED
[00:17:32] WHEN HE WAS RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT IN 2024, BECAUSE HE
[00:17:35] DOESN'T WANT TO HAVE A REASONABLE AND RATIONAL IMMIGRATION SYSTEM. HE WANTED TO
[00:17:38] BE ABLE TO GO AFTER BLACK AND BROWN PEOPLE JUST SO HE COULD
[00:17:42] GET THE RACIST VOTE, WHICH IS
[00:17:45] WHAT HE'S DOING. SO IT'S TIME
[00:17:46] TO END ICE AND GO BACK TO SANITY
[00:17:50] AND DO WHAT MITT ROMNEY AND
[00:17:53] RONALD REAGAN HAVE BEEN BEGGING US TO DO FOREVER. AND REAGAN
[00:17:56] ACTUALLY WAS ENFORCING THAT LAW,
[00:17:57] BY THE WAY, THROUGHOUT THE 80s, IT COLLAPSED THE COLLAPSE OF
[00:18:01] THE. WE STOPPED ENFORCING THAT LAW IN THE MIDDLE OF THE. GEORGE
[00:18:04] HERBERT WALKER BUSH ADMINISTRATION, WHEN THE BIG AG
[00:18:07] PEOPLE STARTED COMING IN AND
[00:18:08] SAYING, NO, WAIT A MINUTE, WAIT A MINUTE. WE NEED WE NEED CHEAP
[00:18:13] LABOR WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK >> THIS IS THE
[00:18:16] >> [MUSIC] >> THOM HARTMANN PROGRAM.
[00:18:18] >> TALK MEDIA FOR THE SANE AMONG
[00:18:22] US. I'LL BE RIGHT BACK WITH
[00:18:23] YOU.
[00:18:29] >> [MUSIC]
[00:18:40] >> AND WELCOME BACK, FRANK IN THOMPSON FALLS, MONTANA. HEY,
[00:18:43] FRANK. WHAT'S ON YOUR MIND TODAY? >> WELL, A GENTLEMAN CALLED A
[00:18:47] COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO AND SAID THAT HE LIKED THE. YEAH. >> YEAH, YOU'RE ON THE AIR.
[00:18:51] >> HELLO? YEAH, A GENTLEMAN CALLED A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO AND
[00:18:53] SAID HE WAS SATISFIED WITH THE
[00:18:57] MEDICAL SYSTEM IN THE UNITED STATES. AND I'VE GOT AN EXAMPLE
[00:18:59] OF WHY WE SHOULD GO TO
[00:19:01] SOCIALIZED MEDICINE. I TRIED FOR
[00:19:04] FOUR YEARS TO GET BOTH MY KNEES DONE, AND I WAS DENIED BY FOUR
[00:19:07] SEPARATE SURGEONS BECAUSE I WAS
[00:19:09] ON PAIN MEDICATION. AND I
[00:19:12] FINALLY FOUND A SURGEON THAT WOULD OPERATE ON ME. HE DID ONE
[00:19:16] KNEE TWO MONTHS AGO, AND I'M GOING IN MONDAY TO HAVE THE
[00:19:19] OTHER ONE DONE. BUT IT SHOULDN'T TAKE FOUR YEARS FOR A
[00:19:22] PERSON TO GET HIS KNEES DONE. WHEN THERE WAS NOTHING WRONG
[00:19:25] WITH THE PERSON, EXCEPT FOR I
[00:19:27] WAS IN A MAJOR MOTORCYCLE WRECK IN OH FOUR. I'VE DEALT WITH THIS
[00:19:30] FOR 26 YEARS. AND, UH, I'M ON
[00:19:36] PAIN MEDICATION BECAUSE I HAVE A
[00:19:36] MIGRAINE ALL DAY, EVERY DAY.
[00:19:41] >> OUCH. >> YEAH. >> YEAH. >> YEAH, THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF
[00:19:45] TWO ISSUES. THE WAY THAT WE DEAL WITH PAIN IN THIS COUNTRY IS CRAZY. THERE'S ALL THIS HYSTERIA
[00:19:47] AROUND ADDICTION. UM, YOU KNOW, SO, SO YOU'RE ADDICTED. I MEAN,
[00:19:51] YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE IN LIFELONG PAIN, IF THE MEDICATION HELPS
[00:19:53] YOU, YOU TAKE IT FOR THE REST OF
[00:19:56] YOUR LIFE. I MEAN, IT'S JUST, OR
[00:19:58] IF, IF SOMEBODY IS OLD AND DYING, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S
[00:20:01] THE BIG DEAL? THEY WERE AFRAID TO GIVE PAIN MEDICATION. MY DAD, AS HE WAS DYING. IT WAS IT WAS NUTS.
[00:20:05] >> RIGHT. AND I'VE TRIED ALL ALTERNATIVES. I LIVED WITH A
[00:20:09] NATUROPATH, AND I'VE DONE
[00:20:12] EVERYTHING FROM ACUPUNCTURE TO
[00:20:14] REFLEXOLOGY TO, UH, DIFFERENT
[00:20:17] KINDS OF THINGS. AND IT'S JUST
[00:20:20] LIKE I TOLD HIM, I SAID, THERE'S NO WAY. THEY SAID THE
[00:20:23] ONLY WAY THEY WOULD OPERATE ON ME IS IF I WAS OFF THE MEDICATION. TOTALLY FOR SIX MONTHS.
[00:20:27] >> YEAH, YEAH. WHICH, WHICH MEANS YOU'D BE IN INSANE PAIN.
[00:20:30] YEAH. NO, THIS IS, THIS IS OUR SYSTEM IS SO BADLY BROKEN. GOOD POINT. FRANK, THANK YOU VERY
[00:20:34] MUCH FOR CALLING AND MAKING IT. TOM IN MEDIA, PENNSYLVANIA. HEY,
[00:20:36] TOM. WHAT'S UP? >> YEAH, I.
[00:20:40] >> TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU. AND I'VE BEEN PUSHING FOR THIS FOR TEN YEARS TO GO AFTER THE
[00:20:44] EMPLOYERS. YEAH. UH, IT'S.
[00:20:48] >> THE LAW, BY THE WAY. TOM. >> YEAH, YEAH. BUT I THINK THAT,
[00:20:52] YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO BE SMART ABOUT IT. WE NEED TO START A PILOT PROGRAM IN THE CONSTRUCTION AND THE
[00:20:55] TRANSPORTATION INDUSTRY. I MEAN, THESE ARE ALL GOOD MIDDLE CLASS JOBS.
[00:20:59] >> WE'VE ALREADY GOT THAT
[00:21:00] PROGRAM. IT'S CALLED E-VERIFY
[00:21:05] IT'S JUST THAT IT'S NOT.
[00:21:08] >> MANDATORY. YEAH, I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF WEAKNESSES IN
[00:21:12] THAT. I THINK THAT COULD BE STRENGTHENED. I WOULD SUPPORT STRENGTHENING IT. YEAH, STRENGTHENING THAT UP. THERE ARE
[00:21:16] SOME WEAKNESSES. IF YOU'RE GOING TO GO AFTER PEOPLE, YOU HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY CAN'T SAY, WELL, I THE E-VERIFY SYSTEM
[00:21:20] WASN'T RIGHT, BUT STRENGTHEN THAT UP AND GO AFTER THEM
[00:21:22] ECONOMICALLY. MHM.
[00:21:26] >> AND THAT'S THE ONLY THING THESE RICH GUYS RESPOND TO IS, IS THE POSSIBILITY OF LOSING
[00:21:29] THEIR MONEY OR GOING TO JAIL. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, IT'S AND BOTH
[00:21:33] ARE OPTIONS ON THE TABLE. BY THE WAY, UNDER THE 1986 LAW, YOU
[00:21:36] KNOW. >> I.
[00:21:39] >> UNDERSTAND REAGAN HAD, YOU
[00:21:42] KNOW, ON AVERAGE, DURING THE
[00:21:45] YEARS AFTER 86, WHILE HE WAS STILL PRESIDENT, IT WAS AROUND
[00:21:49] 10,000 EMPLOYER AUDITS A YEAR. AND BY THE MIDDLE OF THE OF THE
[00:21:53] FIRST BUSH ADMINISTRATION, GEORGE HERBERT WALKER BUSH, YOU KNOW, IT WAS DOWN TO LIKE 100. AND NOW IT'S NOT. NOW, THERE HAVE BEEN NONE, BASICALLY, UNDER
[00:21:56] UNDER TRUMP. >> YEAH. AND I UNDERSTAND THAT. I THINK THAT IT'S BEEN SO FAR
[00:21:59] NOW. IT'S NOT JUST RICH MOGULS, UNFORTUNATELY, IN THE
[00:22:03] TRANSPORTATION INDUSTRY. I KNOW A LOT OF GOOD CONTRACTORS. THEY
[00:22:05] HAVE NO RECOURSE BUT TO, TO
[00:22:11] HIRE, TO COMPETE. AND I THINK THAT IF YOU MAKE IT FAIR ACROSS THE BOARD, SAY, GIVE THEM TWO YEARS SO THEY CAN HAVE
[00:22:15] APPRENTICESHIPS AND ALL. AND,
[00:22:19] YOU KNOW, BUT, BUT JUST DO IT IN CONSTRUCTION AND TRANSPORTATION TO START. BECAUSE IF YOU DO IT
[00:22:22] IN EVERY INDUSTRY, THERE ARE GOING TO BE HUGE SHORTAGES. BUT
[00:22:25] CONSTRUCTION AND TRANSPORTATION, HEY, LET'S DO IT. >> YEAH.
[00:22:28] >> GOOD POINT TOM. THANK YOU. IT
[00:22:30] IS 20, 20 MINUTES AND A HALF
[00:22:33] PAST THE HOUR. I'LL BE BACK WITH MORE OF THE NEWS OF THE DAY IN YOUR CALLS IN JUST A MINUTE.
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[00:26:00] AND C-SPAN IS THERE. OUR CAMERAS
[00:26:04] ARE ON THE GROUND FOLLOWING THE CAMPAIGNS WHERE THE TOUGHEST RACES WILL DECIDE. >> CHUCK COLLINS HAS BEEN ON
[00:26:07] THIS PROGRAM A NUMBER OF TIMES.
[00:26:10] A VERY WEALTHY GUY WHO HAS BEEN
[00:26:13] PREACHING, YOU KNOW, IT'S TIME TO TAX THE RICH FOR A LONG, LONG TIME. AND HE SAYS THIS DEBATE
[00:26:17] OVER CAPITALISM VERSUS SOCIALISM IS LIKE A CARICATURE OF MONOPOLY
[00:26:21] MAN VERSUS KARL MARX, OR THE MARX MONSTER, HE SAYS. ACROSS
[00:26:25] THE PLANET, THERE ARE COUNTLESS FLAVORS OF CAPITALISM. THEY'VE
[00:26:28] GOT IT IN CHINA NOW, OR SOCIALISM, YOU KNOW, IT'S WELL,
[00:26:32] YOU KNOW, OUR POLICE DEPARTMENTS, OUR FIRE DEPARTMENTS, OUR SOCIALISTS,
[00:26:35] OUR, OUR, OUR ENTIRE MILITARY HEALTH CARE SYSTEM IS SOCIALIST.
[00:26:39] IT'S LIKE ENGLAND, YOU KNOW, IT'S ACTUALLY OWNED BY THE GOVERNMENT. THE DOCTORS WORK FOR
[00:26:43] THE GOVERNMENT. THAT'S PURE SOCIALISM. YOU KNOW, FOX NEWS
[00:26:46] EXISTED IN THE 1950s, HE WRITES. THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN ACCUSING
[00:26:49] DWIGHT EISENHOWER OF BEING A SOCIALIST BECAUSE HE WANTED HE
[00:26:52] HE HAD, HE MAINTAINED, A 90% TOP
[00:26:56] INCOME TAX RATE ON THE RICH THROUGHOUT HIS ENTIRE EIGHT YEARS. THE REPUBLICAN PRESIDENT,
[00:26:59] DWIGHT EISENHOWER, 90% TOP
[00:27:02] INCOME TAX RATE ON THE RICH,
[00:27:04] 50%. TOP INCOME TAX RATE ON
[00:27:06] CORPORATIONS. AND WHAT DID IT
[00:27:09] DO? IT BUILT THE MIDDLE CLASS. I
[00:27:12] MEAN, IT'S JUST THAT
[00:27:14] STRAIGHTFORWARD. AND DWIGHT EISENHOWER, DURING DWIGHT
[00:27:18] EISENHOWER'S PRESIDENCY, THAT WAS WHEN MY MOM WENT TO COLLEGE AT MICHIGAN STATE UNIVERSITY AND PAID HER WAY THROUGH A FOUR YEAR
[00:27:22] DEGREE. MAGYAR GRADUATED MAGNA
[00:27:24] LAUDE BY PROPPING AIRPLANES IN
[00:27:26] THE LOCAL AIRPORT AND BEING A LIFEGUARD UP IN CHARLEVOIX. AND
[00:27:29] NOW THERE'S JUST A SUMMER JOB,
[00:27:31] YOU KNOW, A SUMMER KIND OF MINIMUM WAGE JOB. YOU COULD PUT
[00:27:35] YOURSELF THROUGH COLLEGE DURING
[00:27:37] DWIGHT EISENHOWER'S PRESIDENCY,
[00:27:39] AND HE BUILT HOUSES LIKE CRAZY.
[00:27:42] HE HE SENT MILLIONS OF YOUNG MEN
[00:27:45] TO COLLEGE FOR FREE. IN FACT, WE PAID MY DAD AND HIS DAD, MY
[00:27:48] WIFE'S DAD BOTH WENT TO COLLEGE
[00:27:51] ON THE GI BILL. AND WHAT WE FOUND WAS THAT WE MADE $7. OUR
[00:27:55] NATION MADE $7 IN ADDITIONAL TAX REVENUE OVER THE COURSE OF THE
[00:27:58] LIFETIME. OF THE PEOPLE WHO WENT THROUGH THE GI BILL, FOR EVERY
[00:28:02] $1 IT COST US, IT WAS A MASSIVE
[00:28:04] INVESTMENT. THIS IS WHY EVERY
[00:28:07] OTHER DEMOCRACY IN THE WORLD HAS FREE COLLEGE OR VERY, VERY CHEAP
[00:28:10] COLLEGE. AND IN MANY CASES, LIKE
[00:28:13] IN DENMARK OR IN GERMANY,
[00:28:16] THEY'LL PAY YOU TO GO TO
[00:28:22] COLLEGE. AND THESE COUNTRIES HAVE HIGHER RATES OF SOCIAL MOBILITY. THEY, YOU KNOW, IT'S EASIER TO GET INTO THE MIDDLE CLASS OR GET FROM THE MIDDLE
[00:28:26] CLASS, THE UPPER MIDDLE CLASS. THEY HAVE STRONG SWEDEN. YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE MORE SOCIALIST COUNTRIES IN THE WORLD. PEOPLE SAY, OH, IT'S GETTING MORE
[00:28:30] CONSERVATIVE. YEAH, RIGHT. LOOK AT THE ACTUAL POLICIES. THEY HAVE A HIGHER RATE OF
[00:28:34] ENTREPRENEURSHIP THAN THE UNITED STATES. WHY? BECAUSE THEY DON'T
[00:28:36] ALLOW MONOPOLIES USED TO BE, YOU
[00:28:39] KNOW, WHEN REAGAN WAS ELECTED,
[00:28:42] YOUR LOCAL MALL AND YOUR LOCAL
[00:28:44] DOWNTOWN, MAIN STREET WERE PRETTY MUCH ALL LOCALLY OWNED
[00:28:47] BUSINESSES, FAMILY OWNED BUSINESSES. TODAY, THEY'RE ALL
[00:28:50] GONE. IT'S, IT'S NOTHING BUT BIG CHAINS. WHY? BECAUSE REAGAN
[00:28:52] IN 1983, ORDERED US, ORDERED THE
[00:28:55] DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE TO STOP ENFORCING THE ANTITRUST LAWS.
[00:28:59] AND NOBODY HAS PUT THEM BACK INTO PLACE OTHER THAN JOE BIDEN
[00:29:02] SINCE THEN. AND TRUMP JUST
[00:29:06] REVERSED EVERYTHING BIDEN DID.
[00:29:06] IT'S CRAZY. WE NEED SOCIALISM.
[00:29:12] >> YOU'RE LISTENING TO THE THOM HARTMANN PROGRAM. CALL 2028089925.
[00:29:16] >> YOU KNOW, SOCIALISM LIKE MEDICARE, MEDICAID, SOCIAL
[00:29:17] SECURITY, OUR POLICE AND FIRE
[00:29:20] DEPARTMENTS, OUR PUBLIC ROADS. YEAH. WE NEED.
[00:29:24] >> SOCIAL.
[00:29:24] >> [MUSIC] [MUSIC]
[00:29:36] >> GOOD MORNING. THIS IS THE COMMONWEALTH REPORT, GEEKY
[00:29:40] SCIENCE FRIDAY VERSION NEWS FOR THE PUBLIC, NOT THE POWERFUL.
[00:29:42] YOU CAN FOLLOW US AT
[00:29:45] COMMONWEALTH REPORT.NEWS. DID CLIMATE CHANGE BUILD THIS HEAT
[00:29:49] DOME? OVER 80 MILLION AMERICANS, MORE THAN 80 MILLION AMERICANS ARE UNDER AN EXTREME HEAT
[00:29:52] WARNING OR A HEAT ADVISORY. THIS WEEK. FORECASTERS CALL THIS HEAT
[00:29:56] DOME STEAMY EVEN BY LATE AUGUST
[00:29:58] STANDARDS. RECORD HEAT KEEPS
[00:30:03] PUNISHING THE SOUTH CENTRAL STATES AND SPREADS INTO THE SOUTHWEST BY MIDWEEK, WITH HIGHS WELL ABOVE 100 DEGREES IN PARTS
[00:30:07] OF ARIZONA AND NEW MEXICO,
[00:30:08] TOPPING 110. THE HEAT INDEX HIT
[00:30:11] 105 TO 115 ACROSS SOUTHERN
[00:30:15] ARIZONA, TEXAS, LOUISIANA AND NORTHERN FLORIDA. THE NIGHTS
[00:30:18] WON'T COOL DOWN EITHER, AND THAT'S WHEN THE BODY IS
[00:30:22] SUPPOSED TO RECOVER, MICHAEL WEHNER OF LAWRENCE BERKELEY
[00:30:25] NATIONAL LABORATORY, SAYS CLIMATE CHANGE HAS RAISED
[00:30:28] ORDINARY HEAT WAVES BY 3 TO 5°F.
[00:30:32] AMERICAN HEAT WAVES HAVE DOUBLED SINCE THE 1980s. HEAT ALREADY
[00:30:35] KILLS MORE PEOPLE THAN
[00:30:37] HURRICANES, WILDFIRES AND FLOODS COMBINED, AND THOSE DEATHS GET
[00:30:41] UNDERCOUNTED. AND TRUMP KEEPS CUTTING. THE VERY FORECASTERS
[00:30:44] WHO WARN US AND CLAIMING THAT
[00:30:46] IT'S ALL JUST A HOAX. BIG OIL
[00:30:49] DRAINED A LAKE MEAD'S WORTH OF WATER FROM THE WEST. NOW WE KNOW
[00:30:52] WHO DID IT. A NEW STUDY IN
[00:30:55] NATURE COMMUNICATIONS, EARTH AND
[00:30:57] ENVIRONMENT, FINDS THAT 122
[00:31:00] FOSSIL FUEL AND CEMENT COMPANIES ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR ABOUT HALF
[00:31:03] THE WATER. CLIMATE CHANGE HAS
[00:31:05] STOLEN FROM THE AMERICAN WEST.
[00:31:08] FROM 2014 TO 2024. WARMING CUT
[00:31:11] THE REGION'S SNOWPACK BY MORE THAN A THIRD, AND DROPPED STREAM
[00:31:13] FLOWS BY 13%. THE CARBON MAJORS
[00:31:17] SHARE OF THAT LOSS ADDS UP TO TRILLIONS OF GALLONS, ROUGHLY
[00:31:20] THE ENTIRE CAPACITY OF LAKE MEAD. IN THE LOWER COLORADO
[00:31:24] RIVER BASIN, STREAM FLOW FELL
[00:31:28] 21%. 40 MILLION PEOPLE DEPEND ON THAT RIVER. COAUTHOR KALSHI PHILLIPS OF THE UNION OF
[00:31:32] CONCERNED SCIENTISTS, SAYS THE COMPANIES, QUOTE, ENGAGED IN A
[00:31:35] CAMPAIGN OF DELAY AND DENIAL AND
[00:31:37] DECEPTION. CITIES AND STATES ARE
[00:31:40] ALREADY SUING. THE STUDY HANDS
[00:31:42] THEM THE PROOF IS THE SWEETENER
[00:31:47] IN YOUR GUM. RAISING YOUR HEART ATTACK. RISK. XYLITOL SHOWS UP
[00:31:48] IN SUGAR FREE GUM, CANDY, BAKED
[00:31:53] GOODS, AND TOOTHPASTE, AND IT'S SOLD AS A SAFE CHOICE. NOW, RESEARCH. NEW RESEARCH PRESENTED
[00:31:56] AT THE EUROPEAN SOCIETY OF
[00:31:59] CARDIOLOGY CONGRESS SAYS OTHERWISE. RESEARCHERS AT SHAKUR
[00:32:02] UNIVERSITY HOSPITAL IN BERLIN TRACKED ROUGHLY 17,000 PEOPLE
[00:32:06] ACROSS CANADIAN AND EUROPEAN STUDIES. AMONG CANADIAN
[00:32:10] PARTICIPANTS, THOSE CONSUMING THE MOST, XYLITOL HAD A 57%
[00:32:13] HIGHER RISK OF A MAJOR
[00:32:15] CARDIOVASCULAR EVENT OVER SIX YEARS, AND THE EUROPEAN GROUP.
[00:32:19] THE RISK RAN 18% HIGHER OVER 30
[00:32:25] YEARS. LEAD AUTHOR MARCO WITTKOWSKI SAYS FURTHER STUDIES ARE WARRANTED, ESPECIALLY AS
[00:32:27] PRODUCT LEVELS KEEP CLIMBING. THIS IS OBSERVATIONAL WORK, SO
[00:32:30] IT CAN'T PROVE CAUSE. BUT
[00:32:34] REGULATORS CALL THESE SWEETENERS SAFE. DECADES AGO, AND NEVER
[00:32:35] WENT BACK TO CHECK. WHILE MANUFACTURERS KEPT INCREASING
[00:32:39] THE DOSES CAN A DIET SODA REALLY
[00:32:42] TRIPLE YOUR STOMACH CANCER RISK?
[00:32:44] MASS GENERAL BRIGHAM RESEARCHERS
[00:32:48] FOLLOWED 112,284 PEOPLE IN THE NURSES HEALTH STUDY AND THE
[00:32:52] HEALTH PROFESSIONALS FOLLOW UP STUDY. FOR DECADES, PEOPLE WHO
[00:32:54] DRANK AT LEAST ONE SUGAR
[00:32:57] SWEETENED BEVERAGE A DAY HAD
[00:32:59] 2.45 TIMES THE RISK OF STOMACH CANCER, COMPARED TO PEOPLE WHO
[00:33:02] DRANK LESS THAN ONE A MONTH. AMONG WOMEN DRINKING MORE THAN
[00:33:06] ONE A DAY, THE RISK RAN MORE
[00:33:09] THAN THREE TIMES HIGHER. SODAS, FRUIT PUNCH, LEMONADE AND SPORT
[00:33:12] DRINKS ALL COUNTED. DIET SODAS
[00:33:13] SHOWED NO LINK AT ALL. SENIOR AUTHOR ANDREW CHAN SAYS THE RISK
[00:33:17] APPEARS MEANINGFUL HIGHER FOR
[00:33:20] REGULAR DRINKERS. STOMACH CANCER IS STILL RARE, AND THIS IS AN
[00:33:23] ASSOCIATION, NOT PROOF. BUT ROUGHLY 65% OF AMERICAN ADULTS
[00:33:27] DRINK ONE OF THESE EVERY DAY, AND THE BEVERAGE INDUSTRY SPENDS
[00:33:30] MILLIONS. MAKING SURE THAT
[00:33:34] DOESN'T CHANGE. THE FDA APPROVES A PANCREATIC CANCER
[00:33:35] BREAKTHROUGH, PRICED AT $39,000
[00:33:38] A MONTH FOR 40 YEARS, SCIENTISTS
[00:33:42] CALLED THE KRAS GENE
[00:33:46] UNDRUGGABLE. IT DRIVES MORE THAN 90% OF PANCREATIC TUMORS, AND THE PROTEIN IS SO SMOOTH, THE
[00:33:49] DRUGS SLIDE RIGHT OFF IT. ON
[00:33:51] WEDNESDAY, THE FDA APPROVED
[00:33:54] DARAXONRASIB SOLD AS ROB HIAASEN, A ONCE DAILY PILL FROM
[00:33:58] REVOLUTION MEDICINES. THE FDA CLEARED AT SIX AND A HALF MONTHS
[00:34:02] EARLY UNDER A NEW EXPEDITED REVIEW, FIVE WEEKS AFTER THE
[00:34:05] COMPANY FILED IN A PHASE THREE
[00:34:06] TRIAL OF 500 PATIENTS WITH METASTATIC PANCREATIC CANCER,
[00:34:10] MEDIAN SURVIVAL WENT FROM 6.7
[00:34:12] MONTHS ON CHEMOTHERAPY TO 13.2
[00:34:15] MONTHS ON THE PILL. IT CUT THE
[00:34:19] RISK OF DEATH BY 60%. MD ANDERSON, SUBCOMPACT COMPARED
[00:34:22] KRAS S TO A SHINY BALL. BUT HERE'S THE CATCH. REVOLUTION
[00:34:26] MEDICINE PRICED IT AT $39,800
[00:34:29] FOR A 30 DAY SUPPLY. THAT'S A REAL MEDICAL BREAKTHROUGH.
[00:34:32] LOCKED BEHIND A PRICE. NOBODY
[00:34:34] WITHOUT GOOD INSURANCE CAN TOUCH. WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THE
[00:34:38] OCEANS, THE FORESTS, AND THE
[00:34:40] WHEAT ALL BREAK AT ONCE? BILL MCKIBBEN LAID IT OUT THIS WEEK.
[00:34:43] THE GLOBAL SEA SURFACE JUST HIT
[00:34:46] THE HIGHEST TEMPERATURE EVER RECORDED, AND ONE CANADIAN
[00:34:48] SCIENTIST FIGURES. AUGUST 21st
[00:34:51] WAS LIKELY THE WARMEST OCEAN
[00:34:53] SINCE THE LAST INTERGLACIAL
[00:34:56] 125,000 YEARS AGO. 42% OF THE WORLD'S OCEAN IS IN A MARINE
[00:35:00] HEAT WAVE RIGHT NOW. CORAL IS
[00:35:02] BLEACHING AGAIN, AND REEFS FEED 500 MILLION PEOPLE OUT WEST. HOT
[00:35:05] FIRES ARE TURNING CONIFER
[00:35:07] FORESTS INTO SHRUBLAND FOR GOOD,
[00:35:10] STUDIES SAY 40% OF WESTERN
[00:35:11] CONIFERS COULD BE GONE BY 2100.
[00:35:16] SOME WESTERN STATES GET 75% OF
[00:35:18] THEIR WATER FROM SNOWMELT, AND THE WHEAT IS FAILING. AMERICA IS HEADING FOR ITS WORST WHEAT
[00:35:22] HARVEST IN 50 YEARS, ONE NEW STUDY SAYS. THREE DEGREES OF
[00:35:26] WARMING COULD TRIPLE GLOBAL WHEAT PRICES. MCKIBBIN'S POINT
[00:35:29] IS SIMPLE POLITICS IS A SUBSET OF PHYSICS. YOU CAN LIE ABOUT A
[00:35:32] LOT. A LOT OF THINGS. BUT WHEAT
[00:35:38] IS REAL. AND THAT'S THE WAY IT IS TODAY. FRIDAY, AUGUST 28th,
[00:35:40] 2026. I'M TOM HARTMANN.
[00:35:50] >> JOIN C-SPAN 2 AT 6 P.M.
[00:35:53] EASTERN FOR MARATHON PROGRAMING, HIGHLIGHTING SOME OF THE MOST
[00:35:56] CONSEQUENTIAL, COMPELLING, AND MEMORABLE MOMENTS COVERED BY
[00:35:59] C-SPAN IN 2026. TODAY, SUPREME COURT JUSTICES DISCUSSING THEIR
[00:36:03] LIVES, THE CONSTITUTION, THE
[00:36:05] COURT, AND WHAT IT MEANS TO
[00:36:08] SERVE ON THE NATION'S HIGHEST
[00:36:09] COURT. WATCH A MARATHON OF
[00:36:12] COMPELLING PROGRAMING TODAY ON
[00:36:14] C-SPAN. TWO. SUNDAY ON C-SPAN'S
[00:36:22] Q&A. THREE TIME PULITZER PRIZE WINNING NEW YORK TIMES
[00:36:26] PHOTOGRAPHER DOUG MILLS REFLECTS ON DECADES COVERING AMERICAN
[00:36:29] POLITICS. HE TALKS ABOUT PHOTOGRAPHING MULTIPLE
[00:36:33] PRESIDENTS, INCLUDING THE 1992 CLINTON-GORE CAMPAIGN, PRESIDENT
[00:36:36] GEORGE W BUSH ON 9/11, AND CAPTURING THE ATTEMPTED
[00:36:40] ASSASSINATION OF PRESIDENT TRUMP
[00:36:42] IN 2024, WHICH EARNED HIM HIS
[00:36:45] THIRD PULITZER PRIZE. >> I'VE LISTENED TO HIS SPEECH
[00:36:47] ON THE CAMPAIGN HUNDREDS OF
[00:36:50] TIMES, AND I KNEW THAT WHEN HE SAID SOMETHING ABOUT A CHART, I
[00:36:53] THOUGHT, WOW, THE CHART, THE CHARTS. TYPICALLY, AT THE END OF
[00:36:57] THE SPEECH, AND THAT REGISTERED RIGHT AWAY WITH ME. AND SO THEN
[00:36:59] WHEN HE GESTURED OVER TOWARDS
[00:37:02] THE CHART, THAT'S WHEN THE SHOTS RANG OUT. AND WHEN HE WAS
[00:37:05] GESTURING, I WAS, YOU KNOW, NOT AS CLOSE AS WE ARE, BUT MAYBE 4
[00:37:09] OR 5FT BACK. AND I HAD MY LENS ON HIM. I WAS TRYING TO GET
[00:37:12] SOMETHING OF HE AND THE FLAG. AND THEN WHEN HE GESTURED TO THE
[00:37:16] RIGHT AND THE SHOTS RANG OUT, I WAS ACTUALLY TAKING PICTURES. AND THEN I JUST KEPT MY FINGER
[00:37:20] ON THE SHUTTER. AS SOON AS I HEARD.
[00:37:23] >> THE FDA HAD NOT APPROVED THE
[00:37:26] NOT NEW 2020 627 COVID VACCINE, THE ONE THAT IS OUT THERE. IF
[00:37:29] YOU HAVE GOTTEN A VACCINE. WE HAD A CALLER YESTERDAY WHO GOT A
[00:37:32] VACCINE, GOT A SHOT AT COVID SHOT YESTERDAY OR THE DAY BEFORE AT THEIR LOCAL PHARMACY. AND,
[00:37:36] YOU KNOW, IT WAS LAST YEAR'S
[00:37:39] VACCINE, WHICH IS THE 25, 26 VACCINE. SO SOMEBODY TELLS YOU,
[00:37:42] YES, I'VE GOT THE 26 VACCINE.
[00:37:45] ASK THEM, IS THAT THE 25, 26
[00:37:48] VACCINE? BECAUSE THEY DO IT, YOU
[00:37:49] KNOW, KIND OF ACROSS THE WINTER,
[00:37:52] RIGHT? IS THAT THE 2020 526 VACCINE, OR IS IT THE 2627
[00:37:55] VACCINE? BECAUSE THE 2627 VACCINE IS THE ONE THAT THEY
[00:37:59] DEVELOPED WAY BACK IN MARCH. AND
[00:38:04] BOB KENNEDY AND HIS FRIENDS FINALLY GOT AROUND TO APPROVING
[00:38:08] IT YESTERDAY. THE PROBLEM THAT
[00:38:10] WE HAVE IS THAT THE PREVIOUS
[00:38:13] VACCINES WERE ONLY APPROVED, FULLY APPROVED, FOR PEOPLE OVER
[00:38:16] 65, OR PEOPLE WITH UNDERLYING
[00:38:19] CONDITIONS. THIS WAS A CHANGE
[00:38:21] FROM THE OLD. ANYBODY CAN GET
[00:38:23] THE VACCINE, BUT NOW WE HAVE NO IDEA WHO THIS VACCINE IS
[00:38:26] APPROVED FOR, BECAUSE THE CDC
[00:38:29] ADVISORY PANEL THAT MAKES THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS HAS BEEN
[00:38:32] BASICALLY SHUT DOWN, BECAUSE BOB TRIED TO PACK IT WITH ANTI-VAX
[00:38:36] QUACKS. AND A FEDERAL JUDGE
[00:38:37] STOPPED HIM. SO NOT ONLY ARE
[00:38:42] THERE NO SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THIS VACCINE, IT'S JUST COMPLETE
[00:38:45] CONFUSION. BUT ALSO BECAUSE THE
[00:38:48] PANEL HAS NOT RECOMMENDED IT. YOUR INSURANCE COMPANY DOESN'T
[00:38:51] HAVE TO PAY FOR IT. SO IT'S
[00:38:53] GOING TO DEPEND ON YOUR INSURANCE COMPANY. SOME INSURANCE COMPANIES ARE SAYING,
[00:38:56] YEAH, WE'LL PAY FOR THE VACCINE BECAUSE THAT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S CHEAPER THAN PAYING FOR A
[00:39:00] HOSPITAL VISIT. OTHER INSURANCE COMPANIES ARE SAYING, WE'RE NOT GOING TO PAY FOR THE VACCINE
[00:39:03] BECAUSE THE GOVERNMENT SAYS IT
[00:39:04] DOESN'T SAY WE HAVE TO. SO YOU
[00:39:08] MIGHT WANT TO CHECK BEFORE YOU GET YOUR SHOT. BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT THE MANUFACTURERS
[00:39:12] WHO'VE BEEN SITTING ON THIS STUFF FOR MONTHS, I MEAN, THEY'VE BEEN SELLING AND
[00:39:16] SHIPPING IT TO OTHER COUNTRIES, YOU KNOW, SINCE THE SINCE THE
[00:39:19] EARLY SUMMER. UM, THEY'RE,
[00:39:23] THEY'RE SAYING THAT THIS WEEK AND NEXT WEEK THEY'RE GOING TO BE SHIPPING TO PHARMACIES. AND
[00:39:26] SO IT SHOULD BE AVAILABLE NEXT WEEK. SO, YOU KNOW, KIND OF MIXED NEWS, BUT GENERALLY
[00:39:30] SPEAKING, GOOD NEWS. AND THIS IS
[00:39:32] THE NEW MRNA VACCINE. SO WHAT'S ON YOUR MIND TODAY. ANYTHING
[00:39:36] GOES WEEKEND HERE. MARK TAYLOR CANFIELD IN SEATTLE. HEY, MARK,
[00:39:39] WHAT'S ON YOUR MIND TODAY
[00:39:41] >> HEY TOM. IT'S GOOD TO TALK TO
[00:39:44] YOU AT OUR NONPROFIT NEWS ORGANIZATION, DEMOCRACY, I WATCH
[00:39:46] NEWS, THAT'S DEMOCRACY, WATCH NEWS.ORG. AND AT MY YOUTUBE
[00:39:50] CHANNEL, WE'RE FOLLOWING A RECALL EFFORT HERE IN SEATTLE
[00:39:53] AGAINST OUR DEMOCRATIC SOCIALIST MAYOR, KATIE WILSON. YOU'RE KIDDING. MEMBERS OF THE
[00:39:56] COMMUNITY. YEAH. TWO MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY HAVE STARTED THE
[00:40:00] PROCESS. SHE HASN'T EVEN BEEN IN OFFICE FOR A YEAR YET, CITING
[00:40:03] HER FIRING OF POLICE CHIEF SHAWN BARNES AFTER A SHOOTING INCIDENT AT THE AT THE BITE OF SEATTLE
[00:40:07] FOOD AND MUSIC FESTIVAL. AND TOM, UNFORTUNATELY, I WAS A
[00:40:10] WITNESS TO THAT SHOOTING WHERE THREE PEOPLE WERE KILLED. AND IT
[00:40:13] WAS A TRAGIC INCIDENT. BUT WILSON AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT
[00:40:17] WERE CRITICIZED FOR WAITING FIVE
[00:40:19] HOURS BEFORE CONDUCTING AN OFFICIAL PRESS BRIEFING.
[00:40:22] MEANWHILE, THE CHIEF OF POLICE WAS OUT OF TOWN AT A CONFERENCE, ALTHOUGH BOB BARNES AND PRAMILA
[00:40:26] JAYAPAL, CONGRESSWOMAN JAYAPAL,
[00:40:28] SHOWED UP, THE POLICE CHIEF WAS
[00:40:30] OUT OF TOWN. UM, ACTUALLY, SHE
[00:40:33] WAS ALSO THERE, ALSO CITING WILSON'S DECISION TO SHUT OFF
[00:40:36] SOME OF THE CCD SECURITY CAMERAS IN PART OF THE CITY NEAR PIONEER
[00:40:40] SQUARE. UH, BUT SHE WAS ACTUALLY
[00:40:42] PRAISED BY SOME PRIVACY GROUPS ON THAT MOVE. BUT THE SEATTLE
[00:40:45] POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE DOWNTOWN SEATTLE ASSOCIATION
[00:40:48] WANT THEM TURNED BACK ON. SO HERE'S THE.
[00:40:50] >> RIGHT WINGERS GOING AFTER HER.
[00:40:53] >> YEAH. HERE'S THE DEAL. A KING COUNTY SUPERIOR COURT IS
[00:40:56] SCHEDULED TO DECIDE IF THE RECALL CAN GO FORWARD ON AUGUST
[00:40:58] 31st. AND LOCAL MEDIA, INCLUDING
[00:41:01] SINCLAIR BROADCASTING, HAS BEEN CITING A POLL COMMISSIONED BY THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, WHICH
[00:41:05] PURPORTEDLY SHOWS A LOSS OF SUPPORT FOR WILSON. BUT
[00:41:07] PROGRESSIVES STILL SUPPORT HER
[00:41:10] BY 72%. AND BY THE WAY, TOM, THE
[00:41:12] POLL SHOWS THAT ONLY 10% OF
[00:41:14] RESPONDENTS SELF-IDENTIFIED AS
[00:41:18] REPUBLICANS IN SEATTLE, AND THAT POLL WAS CONDUCTED BY THE FULCRUM STRATEGY GROUP. SO,
[00:41:21] YEAH, THE RIGHT WINGERS ARE
[00:41:24] AGAINST HER. AND THEY WERE FROM THE BEGINNING. THEY DO NOT WANT
[00:41:26] A DEMOCRATIC SOCIALIST MAYOR,
[00:41:30] AND THEY'RE GOING TO GO AFTER HER ANY WAY THEY CAN. BUT I DON'T THINK THIS IS GOING TO GO FORWARD. I THINK THE JUDGE IS
[00:41:33] GOING TO DECIDE THAT SHE HASN'T VIOLATED ANY LAWS OR ANY ADMINISTRATIVE POLICIES. AND SO
[00:41:37] I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE DROPPED. >> WELL, THANKS FOR THE REPORT, MARK. I WAS VERY PLEASED TO MEET
[00:41:40] HER. YOU KNOW, I GAVE A SPEECH
[00:41:43] IN SEATTLE, UH, RIGHT AFTER
[00:41:46] RIGHT AFTER SHE WAS ELECTED. SHE HADN'T BEEN INAUGURATED YET, OR
[00:41:48] WHATEVER THE WORD IS SWORN IN
[00:41:51] YET. AND, UH, YOU KNOW, SHE AND I WERE ON STAGE TOGETHER, TALKING FOR A WHILE AFTER MY
[00:41:55] SPEECH. IT WAS GREAT MEETING
[00:41:56] HER. I WAS VERY IMPRESSED BY HER
[00:41:59] >> YES, I'VE KNOWN HER FOR YEARS, AND SHE'S BEEN VERY SUPPORTIVE OF PRESS FREEDOM,
[00:42:03] WHICH IS ONE OF MY MAIN ISSUES.
[00:42:07] BY THE WAY, TOM, SHE WAS, UH, SHE WAS INAUGURATED, SHE WAS
[00:42:10] SWORN IN BY THE TRANSIT FERRY. THIS ELDERLY LADY THAT DRESSES
[00:42:14] UP AS A FERRY AND HANGS OUT AT ALL THE BUS STOPS AND CLEANS
[00:42:17] THEM UP FOR PEOPLE. AND PROMOTES
[00:42:19] TRANSIT IN SEATTLE. YEAH. SHE
[00:42:21] WAS THE KATIE WAS THE CO-FOUNDER
[00:42:26] OF THE TRANSIT RIDERS UNION HERE IN SEATTLE. SO SHE HAS A LONG HISTORY WITH SUPPORTING MASS
[00:42:29] TRANSIT AS WELL. >> YEAH, SHE, SHE JUST STRUCK ME AS A REALLY, REALLY SMART,
[00:42:32] REALLY COMPETENT PERSON. SO MARK, THANKS. THANKS A LOT FOR
[00:42:36] THE, FOR THE REPORT. GREAT, GREAT TO HEAR FROM YOU, JOE, IN OKLAHOMA CITY. HEY, JOE, WHAT'S
[00:42:40] ON YOUR MIND TODAY >> FANTASTIC SHOW. I LOVE
[00:42:44] LISTENING TO YOUR CALLERS BECAUSE IT JUST MAKES MY MIND
[00:42:45] GO. I'VE GOT TO LOOK THAT UP
[00:42:51] AND GET FURTHER INTO IT. I DID WANT TO REMIND EVERYBODY LISTENING THAT THE COUNTRIES
[00:42:54] THAT ARE LITERALLY, AS WE SPEAK,
[00:42:58] LINING THE TRUMP FAMILY POCKETS
[00:43:00] THROUGH CRYPTO AND, UH, TRADE AGREEMENTS AND FRANCHISES. AND,
[00:43:04] YOU KNOW, WHERE THEY'RE BUILDING
[00:43:07] THEIR HOTELS OVERSEAS, ALL OF THOSE COUNTRIES PRACTICE SHARIA
[00:43:10] LAW. YOU KNOW, THAT'S ONE OF
[00:43:13] THE THINGS THE GOP RUNS AROUND SHARIA LAW. WE GOT TO PASS LAWS
[00:43:16] SO WE DON'T HAVE SHARIA LAW
[00:43:18] TAKE OVER. WHEN BASICALLY 1% OF
[00:43:21] THE POPULATION IS MUSLIM, ABOUT HALF OF THEM PRACTICE SHARIA LAW
[00:43:24] IN THE HOME. THIS IS JUST ANOTHER ONE OF THOSE BAIT AND
[00:43:27] SWITCH. THE REPUBLICAN PARTY
[00:43:30] DOES ON THEIR VOTERS, WHO DON'T PAY ATTENTION THAT SOMEDAY WE'RE
[00:43:34] GOING TO BE UNDER SHARIA LAW. IT'S COMPLETELY RIDICULOUS. BUT TRUMP TAKES THEIR MONEY DAY IN
[00:43:38] AND DAY OUT. UH, THE OTHER THING
[00:43:40] I DID WANT TO MAKE MENTION OF,
[00:43:43] KIND OF TO PUT A LINE IN THE
[00:43:44] SAND, IF YOU WILL, THE FAR THEY
[00:43:48] THINK WOMEN SHOULD BE PROPERTY AGAIN.
[00:43:52] >> SO SOME OF THEM ARE JUST COMING RIGHT OUT AND SAYING IT. I MEAN, THERE WAS ONE OF THE
[00:43:56] BILLIONAIRES, MAYBE TWO MONTHS AGO, CAME OUT AND SAID THAT
[00:43:59] WOMEN SHOULDN'T BE ALLOWED TO VOTE, I FORGET WHICH ONE IT WAS
[00:44:02] >> YEAH, THEY'VE BEEN SAYING THAT FOR A WHILE. AND THEN ON
[00:44:05] THE OTHER SIDE, ON THE FAR LEFT, THEY WANT US TO SPEND MONEY AT
[00:44:09] HOME, NOT ON LIES TO WAR THAT
[00:44:14] END UP BOMBING CHILDREN. AND THEY WANTED JESUS STYLE HEALTH CARE SYSTEM. >> YES.
[00:44:17] >> BUT, TOM, I WANT YOU TO. >> THE SO-CALLED LEFT. >> I WANT YOU. YEAH, YEAH, YEAH.
[00:44:21] I WANT YOU TO TALK FOR A MOMENT ABOUT ONE PART OF THE DATA CENTER STORY THAT'S NOT BEING
[00:44:25] TOLD. NOW, BY THE WAY, ALL THESE FUNNY LITTLE NAMES, THEY'RE
[00:44:29] PUTTING ALL THESE DATA CENTERS UNDER. THEY'RE CALLING IT THE
[00:44:31] PUMPKIN. THEY'RE CALLING IT THE
[00:44:33] CLOVERLEAF. THESE ARE ALL HIDDEN
[00:44:38] LLC CORPORATIONS THAT ARE ACTUALLY SEVEN COMPANIES. AND
[00:44:41] THEY FOUND THIS OUT BECAUSE THEY, WHEN THEY REGISTER THEIR
[00:44:45] GAS GENERATORS, THEY HAVE TO PUT
[00:44:46] IT IN THEIR ACTUAL NAME. SO
[00:44:50] WHILE WE HAVE LIKE 4700 DATA
[00:44:51] CENTERS, NOW, UH, A VAST
[00:44:55] MAJORITY OF THEM ARE ORACLE.
[00:44:58] ANOTHER EPSTEIN PERSON, RIGHT.
[00:45:03] UH, XAI META AMAZON, WHO JUST
[00:45:05] LAID OFF 16,000 PEOPLE. SO AI
[00:45:11] COULD DO THEIR JOB. MICROSOFT.
[00:45:14] AND, UH, JUST A HANDFUL WITH ALL THESE FANCY NAMES LIKE, HEY,
[00:45:17] PATCH. WELL, IT MUST BE GOOD.
[00:45:19] IT'S HEY. YEAH, BUT ACTUALLY,
[00:45:24] IT'S JUST AN LLC BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT IT'S AMAZON OR GOOGLE.
[00:45:28] >> YEAH. IT'S LIKE BLUE WASHING. IT'S LIKE, YOU KNOW,
[00:45:31] PRETENDING. OH, IT'S. YEAH, WE'RE, WE'RE WITH YOU. YEAH.
[00:45:34] NO NO NO NO NO. EXCELLENT POINT JOE. THANK YOU. YEAH. WELL SAID.
[00:45:38] THANK YOU. JERRY AND VENTURA,
[00:45:41] VENICE, CALIFORNIA. HEY, JERRY.
[00:45:43] WHAT'S UP
[00:45:49] >> IMPEACHMENT OF WHO TRUMP AND VANCE TOGETHER.
[00:45:54] >> OKAY
[00:45:57] >> CAN'T DO THEM TOGETHER. TRUE. PUT MASSIE IN THE HOUSE OF
[00:46:00] REPRESENTATIVES AS AS THE LEADER
[00:46:02] OF THE HOUSE, HE BECOMES
[00:46:05] PRESIDENT. AND THEN WE HAVE
[00:46:07] SOMEBODY TO RUN AGAINST. AND IF
[00:46:09] YOU WANT TO WAIT UNTIL THE
[00:46:12] DEMOCRATS AND AIPAC GET IN CHARGE OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY,
[00:46:16] UH, GOD BLESS US. >> YEAH. WELL, I CAN TELL YOU,
[00:46:20] JERRY APEC'S INFLUENCE OVER THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY IS, IS, UH,
[00:46:24] REALLY WANING FAST. DEMOCRATS ARE STARTING TO RUN FROM AIPAC,
[00:46:27] DEMOCRATS WHO HAVE BEEN TAKING AIPAC MONEY FOR YEARS AND YEARS
[00:46:30] ARE STARTING TO RUN FROM AIPAC. OVER 70% OF DEMOCRATS NOW WANT
[00:46:34] US TO CUT OFF FUNDING TO ISRAEL. PEOPLE ARE JUST HORRIFIED BY
[00:46:37] THIS GENOCIDE IN GAZA. I MEAN, IT'S JUST IT'S ABSOLUTELY
[00:46:42] DISGUSTING. AND, YOU KNOW, AND NOW THEY'RE GOING AFTER OTHER
[00:46:44] COUNTRIES AS WELL. THEY'RE
[00:46:46] GOING AFTER LEBANON. SO, JERRY, I GOT TO RUN. BUT THANKS FOR THE
[00:46:49] CALL. SPOT ON. 45 MINUTES PAST THE HOUR. I'LL BE BACK WITH MORE OF YOUR CALLS IN JUST A
[00:46:52] MINUTE. IT'S THE THOM HARTMANN
[00:46:56] PROGRAM, DEFENDING AMERICA FROM THE WEAPONS OF MASS DECEPTION. WE'LL BE RIGHT.
[00:46:59] >> BACK
[00:47:10] >> LISTENING TO THOM HARTMANN. VISIT THOM HARTMANN.COM FOR AUDIO AND VIDEO ARCHIVE.
[00:47:14] >> SO WHAT DO YOU THINK OF LAKE
[00:47:18] AMERICA? THIS IS SO PATHETIC. OH, THEY'RE THEY'RE GOING TO
[00:47:22] NAME IT. RIGHT. WE'LL GET INTO
[00:47:23] THAT IN A BIT. SO HANG ON.
[00:47:26] >> [MUSIC] [MUSIC]
[00:47:37] >> SIGNAL HILL, CALIFORNIA, LISTENING ON KPFK. HEY, MARK, WHAT'S ON YOUR MIND TODAY
[00:47:41] >> WELL, A COUPLE YEARS AGO, I
[00:47:43] WENT TO A, UH, ELECTRICAL
[00:47:45] CONVENTION CEO OF TESLA. UM,
[00:47:53] PHD, GAVE A TALK ON, HE'S
[00:47:55] WORKING ON A SYSTEM TO REDUCE
[00:47:58] THE HEAT IN THE POWER SUPPLIES
[00:48:00] FOR AI BY A FACTOR OF TEN, A FACTOR OF TEN. AND HE GAVE THE
[00:48:04] CIRCUIT AND EXPLAINED HOW HE WAS
[00:48:06] GOING TO KEEP THE TRANSFORMERS,
[00:48:09] UH, FROM HEATING UP, ESPECIALLY
[00:48:11] WITH NO LOAD. ANYHOW, UH THAT
[00:48:16] MAYBE THAT'S, THAT COULD BE A RED HERRING, BUT ASSUMING IT'S
[00:48:20] NOT, I DOUBT THEY'LL SHRINK THE
[00:48:22] POWER SUPPLY. TEN, TEN FOLD.
[00:48:25] THEY'LL PROBABLY INCREASE THE BUILDINGS TENFOLD. >> YEAH, WELL, IT'S HARD TO SAY.
[00:48:29] I MEAN, JUST, JUST THE INVENTION
[00:48:33] AND WIDESPREAD DISTRIBUTION OF LED LIGHT BULBS, FOR EXAMPLE,
[00:48:36] HAS DRAMATICALLY REDUCED ELECTRICAL CONSUMPTION EVERYWHERE IN AMERICA. AND
[00:48:39] YOU'LL RECALL, REPUBLICANS FOUGHT THAT LIKE CRAZY. OH, WE
[00:48:43] WANT INCANDESCENT BULBS. YOU
[00:48:44] KNOW, I MEAN, IT'S BUT WHAT WAS
[00:48:48] HIS WHAT WAS HIS SCIENTIFIC RATIONALE? DO YOU DO YOU KNOW
[00:48:52] WHAT HE SAID HE WAS GOING TO DO? I MEAN, I'M AN ELECTRICAL ENGINEER. I WAS AT ONE TIME.
[00:48:56] IT'S WHAT I STUDIED IN COLLEGE. SO.
[00:48:58] >> YEAH. UNDERSTOOD. YEAH. HE
[00:49:03] HAD A METHOD OF, OF THE TRANSFORMERS. YOU KNOW, THEY PUT OUT A LOT OF HEAT. EVEN IF YOU
[00:49:07] DON'T HAVE A LOAD ON THEM.
[00:49:08] SURE. AND IT WAS A METHOD OF
[00:49:11] REDUCING THE FREQUENCY, WHICH IS, I DON'T SEE HOW YOU EASILY.
[00:49:15] >> AND WELL, YOU CAN ONLY RUN A
[00:49:16] TRANSFORMER ON AC. SO THERE IS
[00:49:21] A, THERE IS A FREQUENCY, TYPICALLY 60HZ. YOU KNOW, IN OUR POWER SYSTEM. SO. >> UNDERSTOOD, UNDERSTOOD,
[00:49:24] UNDERSTOOD. AND, UH, IT, YOU
[00:49:26] KNOW, HE EXPLAINED IT IN A MANNER THAT SEEMED TO MAKE
[00:49:30] SENSE. AND THEN HE GOT CUT SHORT
[00:49:31] BY THE NEXT SPEAKER. BUT, UH,
[00:49:34] INTERESTING. IT WAS JUST AN INTERESTING WRINKLE IN THE AI.
[00:49:38] UH, FABRIC. YEAH. THAT MAYBE YOU KIND OF GOT TO THINK WHAT'S GOING TO BE HAPPENING DOWN THE
[00:49:41] ROAD. >> YEAH. THAT'S FASCINATING. I'LL HAVE TO LOOK IT UP. MARK,
[00:49:44] THANKS FOR THE HEADS UP ON THAT. AND THANKS FOR THE CALL. JOHN.
[00:49:46] IN NEWPORT, OREGON. HEY, JOHN,
[00:49:51] WHAT'S ON YOUR MIND TODAY
[00:49:51] >> HI TO YOU ABOUT THREE WEEKS
[00:49:56] AGO, AND I MENTIONED THE OF A
[00:50:01] QUARTER HOLIDAY THAT WE WOULD
[00:50:02] CALL NO KINGS DAY. MHM. ANYHOW,
[00:50:08] I WENT OUT ON THE CORNER OF HIGHWAY 20 AND 101 AND STOOD
[00:50:12] WHERE I USUALLY DO WITH
[00:50:15] INDIVISIBLE WAVES. A CENTRAL OREGON COAST VERSION OF IT. AND
[00:50:19] I MENTIONED THAT I HAD CALLED
[00:50:21] YOU AND WAS TRYING TO PROMOTE
[00:50:24] THIS IDEA. AND THEY SAID, WELL, WHY DON'T YOU WRITE IT UP AND
[00:50:28] WE'LL ALL GIVE YOU A LETTER TO
[00:50:35] AMERICA. ONLY A PAGE. TWO SIDES,
[00:50:41] HANDWRITTEN. IT TAKES A MINUTE. >> WELL, I WOULD SUGGEST, JOHN,
[00:50:45] THAT YOU THROW UP A WEB PAGE OR SOMETHING, AND THEN YOU CAN COME ON THE AIR AND JUST MENTION THE
[00:50:48] URL. I'M NOT GOING TO DO YOUR PUBLICITY FOR YOU, BUT I'M HAPPY TO.
[00:50:52] >> LET YOU. OKAY. WELL, LET ME
[00:50:54] TELL YOU THAT MAYBE TOMORROW
[00:50:59] IT'LL BE ON INDIVISIBLE WAVES. UH-UH. WEBSITE. >> OKAY, COOL. WHAT? ONCE IT IS,
[00:51:03] CALL BACK AND, AND, YOU KNOW, LET EVERYBODY KNOW. OKAY. BECAUSE I THINK IT'S A GREAT
[00:51:07] IDEA. >> OKAY. AMERICA COULD, YOU
[00:51:10] KNOW, THERE'S ONE THING ABOUT A
[00:51:13] DAY OFF. EVERYBODY GETS ONE.
[00:51:15] IT'S NOT LIKE YOUR OF THEM. HE
[00:51:17] ONLY GETS ONE, TWO. >> THERE YOU GO. THANK YOU.
[00:51:20] JOHN. GOOD LUCK WITH THAT. THAT'S. THAT'S GREAT. I'M
[00:51:22] IMPRESSED. THAT'S YOU'RE YOU'RE
[00:51:25] THE REAL DEAL. THANK YOU. WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK. IT'S 49 MINUTES
[00:51:28] PAST THE HOUR. I'LL BE BACK WITH YOU IN JUST A.
[00:51:31] >> MINUTE
[00:51:32] >> [MUSIC]
[00:51:41] [MUSIC] [MUSIC]
[00:51:51] >> THANKS SO MUCH FOR SHARING OUR PROGRAM AND FOR REACHING OUT
[00:51:55] TO OUR STATIONS AND SPONSORS AND LETTING THEM KNOW THAT YOU'RE
[00:51:58] LISTENING. IT REALLY MEANS A LOT
[00:52:00] TO US. AND WELCOME BACK. TEN
[00:52:03] MINUTES BEFORE THE HOUR, PICKING UP YOUR CALLS. ALFREDO IN
[00:52:07] MOUNTAIN VIEW, CALIFORNIA. HEY, ALFREDO, WHAT'S ON YOUR MIND TODAY?
[00:52:10] >> HEY. HI, TOM. I APOLOGIZE,
[00:52:12] I'M GOING FEEL FREE. YOU DON'T MIND?
[00:52:16] >> NO PROBLEM.
[00:52:18] >> YEAH . HAVE HAD
[00:52:28] >> A TEMPORARY TRUMP EXECUTIVE
[00:52:32] ORDER ABOUT THE U.S. POSTAL SERVICE. >> THAT'S CORRECT. IT'S THE SAME JUDGE. IN FACT, JUDGE
[00:52:36] TALLEY, I THINK, OR TALIA. YES.
[00:52:39] >> YEAH. YEAH. COULD YOU ELABORATE ON THAT AND EDUCATE
[00:52:42] YOUR LISTENERS ABOUT THIS? TOM. >> SURE. WELL, WHAT HAPPENED,
[00:52:46] ALFREDO, IS THAT THE JUDGE JUST
[00:52:49] REAFFIRMED WHAT SHE HAD SAID BEFORE, WHICH IS THAT, YOU KNOW,
[00:52:52] THIS IS BASICALLY UNCONSTITUTIONAL. THIS IS THIS
[00:52:55] IS NOT WHAT THE LAW SAYS, THAT THE PRESIDENT CAN CAN IMPOSE HIS
[00:52:58] WILL ON VOTING, AND THAT THE POST OFFICE CAN BE INVOLVED IN
[00:53:02] THE VOTING PROCESS. NOW, IF IF
[00:53:04] THEY DO PULL THIS OFF, AND IF THEY DO GET THE POST OFFICE IN
[00:53:08] THE MIDDLE OF ALL THIS, THEN,
[00:53:12] UM, YOU KNOW, TO GET YOUR BALLOT
[00:53:16] INTO THE STATE, YOU HAVE IN MOST STATES, YOU HAVE DROP BOXES. THE
[00:53:19] PROBLEM IS GETTING THE BALLOT FROM THE STATE TO YOU. IF YOUR
[00:53:23] MAIL MAN OR WOMAN REFUSES TO DELIVER IT TO YOU. SO, YOU KNOW,
[00:53:27] BUT LET'S ALL BE VERY CLEAR WHAT TRUMP IS TRYING TO DO HERE
[00:53:30] IS JUST PREVENT A LOT OF PEOPLE FROM VOTING, PARTICULARLY IN IN BLUE CITIES. THAT'S THE BOTTOM
[00:53:34] LINE. AND, UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S
[00:53:38] UNCONSTITUTIONAL, ILLEGAL. AND IT'S THE KIND OF THING THAT VLADIMIR PUTIN DOES. IN FACT, PUTIN PROBABLY WAS THE GUY WHO
[00:53:41] TOLD HIM HOW TO DO IT. MARK IN
[00:53:43] SOUTH BEND, INDIANA. HEY, MARK,
[00:53:45] WHAT'S ON YOUR MIND TODAY
[00:53:54] >> THE THIRD HOUR TO TALK ABOUT
[00:53:56] THE AMOUNT OF WEALTH THE BILLIONAIRES DON'T PAY IN
[00:54:00] TAXES. AND. AND THE CAP ON SOCIAL SECURITY AND THAT. AND WHAT WAS THE GENTLEMAN'S NAME AGAIN?
[00:54:04] >> I THINK THAT WAS ME. OH, OKAY. ABOUT IT.
[00:54:08] >> WELL, I. GOT I WANT TO ADD MY
[00:54:10] TWO CENTS TO IT. OKAY. LET'S SAY. >> ALEX LAWSON, BY THE WAY, WILL
[00:54:14] BE WITH US IN ABOUT 10 MINUTES
[00:54:16] OR 15 MINUTES. AND HE'S THE THE PRESIDENT OF SOCIAL SECURITY WORKS. AND THAT'S HIS POSITION,
[00:54:20] TOO. BUT BACK TO YOU, MARK.
[00:54:27] >> DEMOCRATS AND PROGRESSIVES
[00:54:28] GET HOLD OF THE CONGRESS AND
[00:54:34] CHANGE OF ADMINISTRATION AFTER TWO YEARS. AND LET'S SAY THE
[00:54:36] DEMOCRATS ARE TEETERING ON 60
[00:54:38] SEATS, AND THEY HAVE ABOUT A
[00:54:40] MAJORITY OF 60 MEMBERS IN THE
[00:54:43] HOUSE. AND THEY COME UP WITH A
[00:54:47] EXTENDING THE SOCIAL SECURITY
[00:54:49] FROM LIKE 175,000 TO 10 MILLION,
[00:54:53] YOU KNOW, WHICH WILL MAKE IT
[00:54:54] MORE. HOW ABOUT SOCIAL SECURITY?
[00:54:57] >> INFINITE, RIGHT? I MEAN, WHY
[00:54:58] SHOULDN'T JEFF BEZOS PAY TWO.?
[00:55:01] >> RIGHT NOW, THE THING OF IT IS TIME. THEY'RE GOING TO WANT TO TRADE. THEY'RE GOING TO WANT TO
[00:55:05] SAY, OKAY, IF YOU TAKE OFF THE CAP, SOCIAL SECURITY AND YOU
[00:55:08] WANT TO MAKE IT PERMANENT AND, AND SOCIAL SECURITY, GOOD FOR
[00:55:12] LIFE. WE WANT THE MARGINAL TAX
[00:55:14] RATE REDUCED FROM 37 TO 33%. >> OH THAT'S NICE.
[00:55:17] >> THEY COME BACK WITH SOMETHING LIKE THAT. >> THE MARGINAL TAX RATE SHOULD
[00:55:20] BE OVER 50% LIKE IT IS IN MOST
[00:55:22] OTHER DEMOCRACIES. THE TOP RATE, THE RATE FOR THE FOR THE
[00:55:26] MORBIDLY RICH.
[00:55:33] >> WE ARE, UH, A SOCIALISTIC
[00:55:36] DEMOCRATIC SOCIETY, WHETHER. >> THIS IS EISENHOWER ISM, MARK.
[00:55:40] I MEAN, DWIGHT EISENHOWER HAD A 90% TOP INCOME TAX RATE FOR THE
[00:55:43] MORBIDLY RICH AND A 50% RATE FOR CORPORATIONS. AND HE EMBRACED
[00:55:47] IT. AND HE WAS A REPUBLICAN. UH,
[00:55:51] AND THAT'S WHAT BUILT THE MIDDLE CLASS. WHEN, WHEN REAGAN DROPPED
[00:55:53] OUR TOP INCOME TAX RATE FROM
[00:55:56] 74%, LBJ DROPPED IT DOWN TO 74, 74%. WHEN REAGAN DROPPED IT FROM
[00:55:59] 74% DOWN TO 25% FOR ONE YEAR,
[00:56:01] AND THEN UP TO 28%. THAT'S WHEN
[00:56:04] WE SAW THE BEGINNING OF THE DESTRUCTION OF THE AMERICAN MIDDLE CLASS. SO I'M WITH YOU.
[00:56:08] I'M WITH YOU. THANK YOU. MARK. THANKS. THANKS FOR THE CALL. LYNN IN LOS ANGELES. HEY, LYNN,
[00:56:12] THANKS FOR LISTENING TO KPFK. WHAT'S UP?
[00:56:15] >> HI. I HAVE A LITTLE TIP ON
[00:56:18] PRONUNCIATION. AS A FORMER ESL TEACHER, I'VE TAUGHT LANGUAGES
[00:56:22] AND LEARN LANGUAGES, SO, FOR
[00:56:25] EXAMPLE, WHEN I WAS STUDYING SPANISH THERE, THERE'S AN
[00:56:29] EXPRESSION FOR YOU, AND IT'S SPELLED PARATI. AND SO MOST
[00:56:32] ENGLISH SPEAKERS WILL SAY PA TI PARA TI. MY SPANISH TEACHER
[00:56:36] SAID, WAIT A MINUTE. GO IN THE KITCHEN, PUT ON SOME WATER, AND
[00:56:39] MAKE A POT OF TEA, MAKE A POT OF I GO POT A TEA POT OF TEA. WHEN
[00:56:42] I STARTED SAYING THAT, THEN I KNEW THE PRONUNCIATION CORRECTLY
[00:56:46] IN SPANISH. UH. AND THEN, UH, IN
[00:56:50] UH, MY CLASS RECENTLY, I'VE TAUGHT SOME STUDENTS FROM UKRAINE, UKRAINE. AND I ASKED
[00:56:54] THEM, WHAT IS THE PRONUNCIATION
[00:56:56] OF THE CAPITAL OF YOUR COUNTRY?
[00:57:00] AND HERE'S. WELL, THEY TOLD ME AND I LEARNED, UH, AN ENGLISH
[00:57:03] EQUIVALENT. SO IF YOU KNOW, STEVIE WONDER, THE SONGS IN THE
[00:57:06] KEY OF LIFE, SAY IT TO YOURSELF.
[00:57:09] SONGS IN THE KEY OF LIFE, THEN TAKE OFF SONGS, SONGS IN THE KEY
[00:57:12] OF. KYIV. KYIV IS HOW YOU SHOULD
[00:57:16] PRONOUNCE THE CAPITAL OF UKRAINE
[00:57:19] KYIV, AND IT'S NOT KYIV, LIKE THE RUSSIANS. AND THEN THE THIRD
[00:57:23] ONE THAT PEOPLE MISPRONOUNCE ALL THE TIME IS WHEN THEY SAY
[00:57:27] NUCLEAR, NOT CORRECT. SO IF YOU
[00:57:31] IF IT'S CLOUDY TODAY AND MAYBE.
[00:57:33] BUT TOMORROW, IT'S GOING TO BE A
[00:57:36] NEW CLEAR DAY. JUST SAY NEW CLEAR AND YOU WILL PRONOUNCE
[00:57:40] NUCLEAR CORRECTLY. AND THAT'S IT. >> WELL, THANK YOU, LYNN, FOR
[00:57:43] OUR FOR OUR VOCABULARY ENHANCING
[00:57:47] TODAY. I APPRECIATE IT. THAT'S GREAT. THANK YOU. SCOTT IN PORTLAND, OREGON. HEY, SCOTT,
[00:57:49] WHAT'S ON YOUR MIND TODAY?
[00:57:53] >> GOT ANOTHER LITTLE WORDPLAY THING. UH, I LIKE USING THE
[00:57:57] PHRASE, EVERY ACCUSATION IS A CONFESSION. AND CERTAINLY TRUE.
[00:58:01] WELL YEAH, AND, AND MOST OF THE
[00:58:04] REPUBLICAN PARTY. UH, BUT I THOUGHT, IS THERE A KIND OF A
[00:58:07] CONDENSED WAY? SO I JUST MASHED UP THE TWO WORDS AND CAME UP
[00:58:10] WITH ACCUSATION. AND I THOUGHT.
[00:58:14] >> YOU FASHION. >> THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF FUN. SO YOU CAN USE IT SORT OF AS A
[00:58:17] NOUN. SAY, OH, YEAH, HE'S THE
[00:58:20] KING OF FASHION. YEAH. BUT, UH, AND I THOUGHT, OH, I WAS PROUD
[00:58:23] OF MYSELF. AND I GOOGLED IT AND IT, AND IT IS ACTUALLY A THING.
[00:58:26] IT IS ACTUALLY, UH.
[00:58:28] >> SOMEBODY GOT THERE AHEAD OF YOU.
[00:58:32] >> I GUESS WAS, UH, THOUGHT I'D PASS THAT ON BECAUSE IT WAS KIND OF FUN. >> YEAH. SO WHEN, WHEN TRUMP
[00:58:36] SAYS, UH, THOSE LIBERALS WANT TO TEAR DOWN AMERICA, WELL, HE'S
[00:58:39] ACTUALLY TEARING DOWN AMERICA. IT'S A CONFESSION. >> HE'S EXACTLY. YEAH.
[00:58:43] >> DESTROYING OUR MIDDLE CLASS. HE'S DESTROYING OUR REPUTATION AROUND THE WORLD. HE'S
[00:58:47] DESTROYING OUR BUILDINGS AND OUR MONUMENTS. IT'S SLAPPING HIS
[00:58:49] NAME AND PUTTING GOLD PAINT ON
[00:58:52] EVERYTHING. IT'S CRAZY. >> THE WEAPONIZATION OF THE DOJ
[00:58:55] KIND OF THING. YEAH. ANOTHER ACTIVE FASHION. >> THERE YOU GO. ACTIVE FASHION.
[00:58:58] I LOVE IT, SCOTT. THANK YOU.
[00:59:00] BRILLIANT. THANK YOU. IT'S, UH. WELL, WE'RE HITTING THE TOP OF
[00:59:04] THE HOUR HERE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE BREAK. THE THE PRESIDENT
[00:59:06] OF SOCIAL SECURITY, WORKS.ORG IS
[00:59:08] GOING TO DROP BY ALEX LAWSON. SO STICK AROUND. IT'S GOING TO GET
[00:59:12] INTERESTING. WE'LL BE RIGHT. >> BACK.
[00:59:16] >> [MUSIC]
[00:59:24] >> JOIN C-SPAN 2 AT 6 P.M. EASTERN FOR MARATHON PROGRAMING,
[00:59:27] HIGHLIGHTING SOME OF THE MOST
[00:59:28] CONSEQUENTIAL, COMPELLING, AND MEMORABLE MOMENTS COVERED BY
[00:59:32] C-SPAN IN 2026. TODAY, SUPREME
[00:59:36] COURT JUSTICES DISCUSSING THEIR LIVES, THE CONSTITUTION, THE COURT, AND WHAT IT MEANS TO
[00:59:40] SERVE ON THE NATION'S HIGHEST
[00:59:42] COURT. WATCH A MARATHON OF
[00:59:44] COMPELLING PROGRAMING TODAY ON C-SPAN. TWO.
[00:59:48] >> [MUSIC]
[00:59:56] >> DEMOCRACY >> [MUSIC] >> IS ALWAYS AN UNFINISHED
[01:00:00] CREATION. >> DEMOCRACY IS WORTH. DYING FOR. >> DEMOCRACY BELONGS TO US ALL.
[01:00:04] >> WE ARE HERE IN THE SANCTUARY OF DEMOCRACY.
[01:00:07] >> GREAT RESPONSIBILITIES FALL ONCE AGAIN TO THE GREAT
[01:00:11] DEMOCRACIES. >> AMERICAN DEMOCRACY IS BIGGER
[01:00:12] THAN ANY ONE PERSON.
[01:00:16] >> FREEDOM AND DEMOCRACY MUST BE CONSTANTLY GUARDED AND PROTECTED.
[01:00:19] >> WE ARE STILL, AT OUR CORE, A DEMOCRACY.
[01:00:23] >> THIS IS ALSO A MASSIVE
[01:00:25] VICTORY FOR DEMOCRACY AND FOR FREEDOM.
[01:00:28] >> [MUSIC] [MUSIC]
[01:00:35] >> WATCH AMERICA'S BOOK CLUB
[01:00:38] C-SPAN'S BOLD ORIGINAL SERIES, SUNDAY WITH OUR GUEST AWARD
[01:00:42] WINNING GLOBAL NUMBER ONE BEST SELLING AUTHOR, >> [MUSIC]
[01:00:45] >> DAVID BALDACCI. HIS THRILLERS HAVE SOLD OVER 200 MILLION
[01:00:48] COPIES WORLDWIDE. PUBLISHED IN OVER 45 LANGUAGES IN MORE THAN
[01:00:52] 80 COUNTRIES. HE JOINS OUR HOST, RENOWNED AUTHOR AND CIVIC
[01:00:56] LEADER, DAVID RUBENSTEIN.
[01:00:58] >> SO WHEN YOU ARE WRITING, UM,
[01:01:02] DO YOU EVER SAY TO YOURSELF, UH, YOU EVER DAYDREAM, YOU EVER LOSE
[01:01:05] YOUR TRAIN OF THOUGHT? YOU'RE, YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT IT, OR YOU JUST TUNNEL VISIONED ON WHAT
[01:01:09] YOU'RE WRITING? >> I DO BOTH AT THE SAME TIME. I
[01:01:11] TUNNEL VISION, I LET MY
[01:01:13] IMAGINATION RUN, YOU KNOW,
[01:01:17] BECAUSE I FOUND THAT WHEN I TRIED TO KEEP MY IMAGINATION IN CHECK, I MISS OPPORTUNITIES. AND
[01:01:20] I DON'T WANT TO MISS OPPORTUNITIES. PEOPLE ASK, WHERE DO I GET MY IDEAS FROM? I GET UP
[01:01:24] EVERY DAY AND I WALK OUT THE DOOR AND I SEE WHAT'S IN FRONT
[01:01:26] OF ME. I'M NOT ON MY IPHONE LOOKING AT MY IPHONE. I'M
[01:01:30] LOOKING AT PEOPLE, AND I'VE
[01:01:31] GOTTEN IDEAS FOR PLOT POINTS JUST BY WALKING DOWN THE STREET
[01:01:35] AND SEEING TWO PEOPLE TALKING, AND I'M WONDERING, WHAT ARE THEY TALKING ABOUT? MAYBE I CAN
[01:01:39] ANSWER THAT MYSELF. OR I SEE A
[01:01:43] GUY WITH A BOX GET ON A BUS. I WONDER WHAT'S IN THE BOX AND WHERE IS THE BUS GOING WITH THE
[01:01:46] GUY? AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN, I
[01:01:48] HAVE A STORY IDEA.
[01:01:51] >> FROM THAT, REPORTING OVER A COMMONDREAMS.ORG ABOUT THIS.
[01:01:55] THIS KIND OF MEME, THIS RESPONSE
[01:01:56] TO DONALD TRUMP NAMING LAKE
[01:02:00] ONTARIO AS LAKE AMERICA. UH, THERE'S A LOT OF OPTIONS. I SAW
[01:02:04] A MEME YESTERDAY ON SOCIAL MEDIA WHERE IT WAS A PICTURE OF THEM
[01:02:08] PUTTING A SIGN OVER THE LAKE ONTARIO SIGN UP ON THE CANADA
[01:02:11] SIDE THAT SAID, LAKE EPSTEIN
[01:02:16] FILES. AND, AND THEN, UM, DOUG
[01:02:19] FORD, I BELIEVE THE PREMIER OF
[01:02:22] ONTARIO SAID THAT HE WAS GOING TO RENAME IT. IN FACT, HE POSTED
[01:02:25] THIS ON SOCIAL MEDIA. UH, HE WAS GOING TO RENAME IT LAKE NATALIE.
[01:02:29] LIKE, YOU KNOW, NATALIE HARPE, WHO FOLLOWS TRUMP AROUND THIS
[01:02:32] LITTLE BLOND BUT, UH, WE'VE GOT
[01:02:36] SOME REAL PROBLEMS IN AMERICA, RIGHT? WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF A
[01:02:39] WAR IN THE MIDDLE EAST. THAT IS,
[01:02:42] COST HAS COST US LIVES. 18
[01:02:44] AMERICAN LIVES, HUNDREDS OF AMERICAN CASUALTIES, PEOPLE IN
[01:02:48] THE HOSPITAL THERE, IN MANY CASES, THEIR LIVES SHATTERED,
[01:02:50] THEIR FUTURES RUINED. UM, WE'VE
[01:02:53] GOT AND NOT TO MENTION THE, THE
[01:02:56] HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS OF DOLLARS THAT HAS COST US ALREADY AND
[01:02:59] WIPED OUT OUR, OUR MUNITIONS SO
[01:03:01] THAT WE CAN'T REALLY DO MUCH IF CHINA DECIDES TO MOVE ON, ON
[01:03:05] TAIWAN RIGHT NOW. IN FACT, WE PULLED THE SHIP OUT OF THE AREA
[01:03:08] TO, TO PUT IT INTO THE INTO THE
[01:03:11] MIDDLE EAST. SO, YOU KNOW, WE'VE
[01:03:12] GOT THAT MESS. THE AMERICAN ECONOMY IS SHEDDING JOBS. WE
[01:03:16] LOST, WHAT WAS IT, 28,000 JOBS LAST MONTH. AND WE KNOW THAT
[01:03:19] WHEN THEY REVISED THE NUMBERS, IT'S GOING TO BE EVEN WORSE. BECAUSE EVER SINCE TRUMP FIRED
[01:03:23] THE STATISTICIAN THERE AND PUT IN A TOADY, WE'VE BEEN GETTING
[01:03:26] LIES EVERY SINGLE MONTH ABOUT THE JOB SITUATION. AND THEN THEY CORRECT THEM TWO MONTHS LATER,
[01:03:29] WHEN NOBODY'S NOTICING. UM,
[01:03:34] YOU'VE GOT INFLATION RISING AND KEVIN WARSH. YESTERDAY AT, I
[01:03:37] THINK IT WAS IN JACKSON HOLE
[01:03:39] THAT, THAT ANNUAL CONFERENCE
[01:03:44] THEY HAVE IN WYOMING, UM, SAID THAT, INFLATION IS ABOVE HIS 2%
[01:03:48] TARGET RANGE, AND THERE'S A VERY GOOD CHANCE HE'S GOING TO HAVE
[01:03:50] TO RAISE INTEREST RATES. I MEAN,
[01:03:53] YOU KNOW, OUR ECONOMY IS A MESS.
[01:03:54] AND THEN YOU'VE GOT TRUMP'S
[01:03:57] SO-CALLED BIG, BEAUTIFUL BILL
[01:04:00] THAT GAVE BILLIONAIRES IN AMERICA, ELON MUSK AND MARK
[01:04:03] ZUCKERBERG. AND, AND, UH, YOU
[01:04:05] KNOW, JEFF BEZOS, LITERALLY $1
[01:04:08] TRILLION TAX CUT, $1 TRILLION
[01:04:13] TAX CUT. AND TO COVER PART OF
[01:04:14] THE COST OF THAT, THEY CUT A
[01:04:18] TRILLION. THEY YEAH, THEY CUT $1 TRILLION OUT OF. WELL, NO, IT
[01:04:22] WASN'T $1 TRILLION. IT WAS HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS OF DOLLARS
[01:04:23] OUT OF MEDICAID AND FOOD STAMPS.
[01:04:27] AND SO NOW YOU'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, MILLIONS OF AMERICANS
[01:04:30] WHO'VE LOST THEIR FOOD STAMPS. THEY'VE LOST THEIR MEDICAID.
[01:04:34] UM, THEY ALSO ENDED THE
[01:04:37] SUBSIDIES FOR THE OBAMACARE PROGRAM. SO YOUR $300 A MONTH
[01:04:41] OBAMACARE PROGRAM, UH, YOU KNOW, HEALTH INSURANCE IS NOW, YOU
[01:04:43] KNOW, $1,000 A MONTH. SOCIAL SECURITY IS RUNNING OUT OF
[01:04:47] MONEY. I MEAN, WE'VE GOT ALL THESE REALLY SERIOUS PROBLEMS.
[01:04:50] AND SO WHAT DID TRUMP SPEND THE
[01:04:51] DAY DOING YESTERDAY, RENAMING
[01:04:55] LAKE ONTARIO? THIS IS NUTS.
[01:04:58] PUBLIC CITIZEN RESPONDED WITH A POST ON ON SOCIAL MEDIA, SAYING,
[01:05:02] WE'D REALLY RATHER PREFER
[01:05:04] AFFORDABLE HEALTH CARE WE GOT A
[01:05:06] $1.5 TRILLION STUDENT DEBT CRISIS IN AMERICA. YOUNG PEOPLE
[01:05:09] CAN'T AFFORD TO
[01:05:17] START FAMILIES OR BUY HOMES
[01:05:21] BERNIE SANDERS WROTE AND. THIS IS JUST SO SUCCINCT AND SO BRILLIANT, HE SAID. NO, PRESIDENT TRUMP. THE AMERICAN
[01:05:24] PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO RENAME LAKE ONTARIO AS LAKE AMERICA.
[01:05:28] THEY WANT AFFORDABLE HEALTH CARE, CHILD CARE, HOUSING, EDUCATION, AND NUTRITION
[01:05:31] ASSISTANCE, ALL OF WHICH YOU HAVE MASSIVELY CUT IN ORDER TO
[01:05:34] PAY FOR YOUR $1 TRILLION TAX
[01:05:36] BREAK, FOR THE TOP 1%, AND YOU RECALL, JUST A COUPLE OF WEEKS
[01:05:40] AGO, TRUMP SAID, WELL, I REALLY
[01:05:42] DON'T THINK ABOUT AMERICAN'S
[01:05:45] FINANCIAL SITUATION. THAT'S A
[01:05:49] VERBATIM QUOTE. KATHY HOCHUL, THE GOVERNOR OF NEW YORK, WHO
[01:05:53] LEADS THE ONLY STATE THAT ACTUALLY TOUCHES LAKE ONTARIO,
[01:05:57] LAKE ONTARIO, AND THE US SIDE IS
[01:05:58] ENTIRELY IN NEW YORK. UM, SHE
[01:06:03] SAID YESTERDAY OR WEDNESDAY, I GUESS THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION, QUOTE, SHOULD BE FOCUSING ON
[01:06:06] WAYS TO MEND RELATIONSHIPS WITH
[01:06:10] CANADA. SO OUR FARMERS AND OUR CONSUMERS AND OUR FAMILIES DO
[01:06:13] NOT CONTINUE SUFFERING FROM HIS
[01:06:15] INANE WAR OVER TARIFFS, SHE ADDED. THE FACT THAT THE NAME
[01:06:19] CHANGE IS EVEN PART OF THE CONVERSATION SHOWS HOW ABSURD
[01:06:23] THIS TRUMP ADMINISTRATION IS. AND THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THE ONE THING DONALD TRUMP HAS BEEN GOOD
[01:06:26] AT HIS WHOLE ENTIRE LIFE. HE'S LOUSY WITH MONEY. HE'S LOUSY AT
[01:06:29] BUSINESSES, PRETTY MUCH EVERY BUSINESS HE'S EVER RUN HAS FAILED OR EVEN GONE BANKRUPT,
[01:06:33] WITH THE EXCEPTION OF HIS REAL
[01:06:37] ESTATE BUSINESS, WHICH WAS BAILED OUT BY RUSSIAN OLIGARCHS
[01:06:40] USING IT TO LAUNDER MONEY. AND THIS IS ALL FAIRLY WELL DOCUMENTED. I MEAN, THE GUY IS A
[01:06:44] COMPLETE LOSER, AND INCOMPETENT, BUT THERE IS ONE THING HE'S GOOD
[01:06:48] AT, AND THE ONE THING HE'S GOOD
[01:06:52] AT IS GETTING PRESS, GETTING THE
[01:06:55] MEDIA, AND I THINK PEOPLE ARE OVER IT. I THINK, YOU KNOW,
[01:06:59] EVERY, YOU KNOW, HE, HE, YEARS AGO, HE, HE SAID, EVERY MORNING
[01:07:02] I WAKE UP AND THINK, HOW CAN I GET ON THE FRONT PAGE OF THE
[01:07:05] PAPER? AND I THINK HE'S STILL
[01:07:08] RUNNING THAT, THAT SHTICK. AND,
[01:07:12] YOU KNOW, I REMEMBER WHEN WE WOULD GO A WHOLE WEEK WITHOUT HEARING FROM BARACK OBAMA OR JOE
[01:07:16] BIDEN, YOU CAN'T GO 12 HOURS
[01:07:19] WITHOUT SOME NEW OUTRAGE FROM DONALD TRUMP. HE'S HE'S SUCH A
[01:07:22] NEEDY LITTLE BOY THAT HE'S JUST
[01:07:25] GOT TO HAVE EVERYBODY'S ATTENTION ALL THE TIME. ME, ME,
[01:07:28] ME, ME, ME. AND THIS IS JUST THE
[01:07:31] LATEST LITTLE CIRCUS TO DISTRACT US FROM THE FACT THAT, YOU KNOW,
[01:07:35] THIS WEEK, HIS ATTORNEY GENERAL AND HIS FORMER CRIMINAL DEFENSE
[01:07:39] LAWYER SAID, NO, I'M NOT GOING
[01:07:40] TO GIVE YOU THE THE EPSTEIN.
[01:07:44] >> FILES.
[01:07:45] >> [MUSIC]
[01:07:53] >> THIS IS THE THOM HARTMANN
[01:07:57] PROGRAM >> HEY, WELCOME TO THE SECOND HOUR OF OUR PROGRAM. ON THE LINE
[01:08:00] WITH US, OUR GOOD FRIEND, ALEX LAWSON, THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR
[01:08:02] OF SOCIAL SECURITY, WORKS.ORG,
[01:08:05] AND STRENGTHEN SOCIAL
[01:08:07] SECURITY.ORG, A LAW 202 OR SOCIAL SECURITY WORKS.ORG. OVER
[01:08:11] ON BLUE SKY. ALEX, WELCOME BACK
[01:08:13] TO THE PROGRAM. IT'S ALWAYS SO NICE HAVING YOU WITH US.
[01:08:16] >> ALWAYS. MY PLEASURE TO BE HERE, TOM.
[01:08:17] >> BACK AT YOU. UH, THE SOCIAL
[01:08:21] SECURITY TRUST FUND IS RUNNING OUT, AND YOU'VE GOT REPUBLICANS
[01:08:25] OUT THERE SAYING, WELL, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A GREAT TIME TO CUT SOCIAL SECURITY BENEFITS OR
[01:08:29] RAISE THE RETIREMENT AGE. THERE
[01:08:33] WAS SOME GUY WHO WAS, UH, PUBLISHING THIS RIGHT WING THING ABOUT BABY BOOMERS ARE
[01:08:36] COLLECTING 265% OF WHAT THEY PAID INTO SOCIAL SECURITY, AND
[01:08:40] MILLENNIALS ARE PAYING THE, YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE THEY'RE POINTING THE FINGER AT OLD
[01:08:44] PEOPLE. UM, WHAT'S THE REAL SITUATION HERE? AND WHY ISN'T
[01:08:47] THIS A CAMPAIGN ISSUE ALREADY?
[01:08:51] >> UH, SO I THINK IT IS A CAMPAIGN ISSUE. UH, I THINK
[01:08:54] THAT, UH, WHAT'S HAPPENED IS
[01:08:56] BECAUSE OF THE, THE DOGE AND,
[01:08:59] UH, TRUMP ATTACKS ON THE SOCIAL SECURITY ADMINISTRATION,
[01:09:03] HOLLOWING OUT THE AGENCY, CLOSING OFFICES, CREATING GHOST
[01:09:06] OFFICES. THAT'S JUST A LITTLE BIT CLOSER TO PEOPLE. SO WHEN
[01:09:09] SOCIAL SECURITY IS BROUGHT UP ON
[01:09:11] AS A CAMPAIGN ISSUE, IT'S PRIMARILY FOCUSED THERE. RIGHT
[01:09:15] NOW. UM, BUT AS PEOPLE
[01:09:17] UNDERSTAND HOW IMPORTANT THE
[01:09:19] ISSUE IS, WHICH SOMETIMES LIKE
[01:09:22] THE GHOST OFFICES AND CLOSED OFFICES ARE THE FIRST STEP, BUT
[01:09:25] THEN THEY LEARNED THAT, YOU KNOW, IF CONGRESS DOES NOTHING
[01:09:28] IN 2032, THERE'S GOING TO BE A
[01:09:31] 20% BENEFIT CUT FOR EVERYBODY
[01:09:33] NOW AND IN THE FUTURE, RIGHT? A
[01:09:36] 20% BENEFIT CUT FOR EVERYBODY.
[01:09:38] JUST ABSOLUTELY CATASTROPHIC,
[01:09:41] DEVASTATING. PEOPLE WILL LOSE THEIR HOMES. PEOPLE WILL GO
[01:09:43] HUNGRY. I MEAN, YOU CAN'T, UH,
[01:09:47] THE, THE ECONOMIC EFFECTS OF THAT WOULD BE JUST UNIMAGINABLE.
[01:09:50] UH, SO THAT IS NOT IN THE
[01:09:56] DISTANT FUTURE. THAT'S IN THE NEXT PRESIDENTIAL
[01:09:58] ADMINISTRATION. YEAH. AND AGAIN,
[01:10:00] THE PROBLEM IS A 20% BENEFIT CUT. SO AS YOU POINT OUT, YOU
[01:10:04] GOT ALL THESE REPUBLICANS AND THEN DEMOCRATS WHO GO ALONG WITH
[01:10:07] THEM. UNFORTUNATELY, UH, THEY'RE
[01:10:09] LIKE, HEY, HEY, WE'VE GOT THIS
[01:10:13] LOOMING 20% BENEFIT CUT. SO HEAR ME OUT. WHAT IF WE CUT BENEFITS
[01:10:16] NOW BY 20%? UH, RIGHT. AND YOU
[01:10:20] AND I HAVE SEEN THIS FOR, FOR, UH, FOREVER. NOW, YOU KNOW, I'VE
[01:10:23] BEEN DOING THIS FOR 16 YEARS, AND I'M LIKE, HOW STUPID DO YOU
[01:10:27] THINK WE ARE? THAT'S NOT A SOLUTION. THAT'S THE PROBLEM
[01:10:30] SOONER. UM, SO WE HAVE TO REJECT THAT. AND THEN WHEN YOU DIG
[01:10:33] DEEPER, TOM, WHICH IS WHAT YOU'RE ASKING, THE PROBLEM
[01:10:37] ISN'T, UH, BOOMERS, THE PROBLEM
[01:10:39] ISN'T IMMIGRANTS. THE PROBLEM
[01:10:42] ISN'T ANYTHING THAT THESE RIGHT WINGERS ARE POINTING AT. UH, AND THAT'S NOT ME SAYING THAT.
[01:10:46] THAT'S THE SOCIAL SECURITY
[01:10:48] ACTUARY SAYING THAT THERE'S ONE
[01:10:52] CAUSE OF THE, UH, TRUST FUND EMPTYING 30 YEARS SOONER THAN IT
[01:10:54] SHOULD. UH, AND IT'S BILLIONAIRES. IT'S THAT
[01:10:58] BILLIONAIRES, UH, DO NOT PAY IN
[01:11:00] ON ALL OF THEIR INCOME. THERE'S
[01:11:03] A CAP. YOU ONLY PAY IN ON THE
[01:11:05] FIRST $184,500 OF INCOME. AFTER THAT, YOU DON'T PAY A NICKEL
[01:11:09] MORE. SO THE MORE MONEY YOU MAKE, THE LESS YOU PAY AS A
[01:11:12] PERCENTAGE INTO SOCIAL SECURITY.
[01:11:14] THAT'S THE PROBLEM. SO YOU SAY, IF WE DON'T DO ANYTHING,
[01:11:18] THERE'S GOING TO BE A 20%
[01:11:21] BENEFIT CUT IN 2032. BUT IF WE
[01:11:24] GET THE BILLIONAIRES TO PAY THE
[01:11:26] SAME RATE IN NO BENEFIT CUT, AND
[01:11:29] IN FACT, WE CAN EXPAND BENEFITS
[01:11:32] FOR EVERYONE. AND WHEN YOU TELL
[01:11:33] PEOPLE THE TRUTH LIKE THAT,
[01:11:37] IT'S NOT A DEMOCRATIC ISSUE. INDEPENDENT REPUBLICANS EVEN SELF-IDENTIFIED LIBERTARIANS,
[01:11:41] ARE LIKE, WELL, OBVIOUSLY JUST HAVE EVERYONE PAY THE SAME RATE
[01:11:44] INTO THE SYSTEM AND PREVENT THE
[01:11:48] BENEFIT CUTS PEOPLE HAVE EARNED THESE BENEFITS. IF YOU CUT THEIR
[01:11:52] BENEFITS, YOU'RE STEALING FROM THEM, RIGHT? YOU'RE STEALING
[01:11:56] FROM THEM. IT'S OUR MONEY. UH, SO THAT'S WHAT'S GOING ON
[01:11:59] RIGHT NOW, TOM. AND I THINK THAT
[01:12:01] AS WE GET CLOSER TO THE ELECTION, THE MIDTERMS, THIS IS
[01:12:04] WHAT ALWAYS HAPPENS. UM, AS YOU GET CLOSER TO ELECTION DATE,
[01:12:07] YOU'RE GOING TO SEE MORE AND MORE CAMPAIGNS AND CANDIDATES
[01:12:11] TALKING ABOUT SOCIAL SECURITY. >> I THINK IT'S WORTH POINTING
[01:12:14] OUT, ALEX, THAT ONE OF THE
[01:12:16] THINGS THAT REPUBLICANS HAVE
[01:12:21] BEEN PROMOTING FOR YEARS AND YEARS IS THE SO-CALLED FLAT TAX, THAT EVERYONE SHOULD PAY A
[01:12:24] LITTLE BIT OF INCOME TAX, AND EVERYBODY SHOULD PAY THE SAME
[01:12:27] RATE. AND THIS IS REALLY JUST A SCAM. THIS IS SO THAT THE RICH
[01:12:31] PEOPLE WHO ARE PAYING 37% RIGHT NOW, AND THE POOR PEOPLE WHO ARE
[01:12:34] PAYING NOTHING, THAT WILL BE
[01:12:36] CHANGE TO EVERYBODY PAYING 20%, INCLUDING, YOU KNOW, THE GUY
[01:12:39] WORKING AT MCDONALD'S. AND, YOU
[01:12:45] KNOW, ELON MUSK AND AROUND INCOME TAXES. BUT THIS IS THEIR THING, RIGHT? REPUBLICANS, FLAT
[01:12:49] TAX, FLAT TAX, FLAT TAX. I MEAN,
[01:12:51] THEY'VE BEEN DOING THIS MANTRA
[01:12:53] SINCE THE SINCE THE 70s. AND THE
[01:12:57] SOCIAL SECURITY TAX IS A FLAT TAX, EXCEPT THAT IT'S GOT THIS
[01:13:00] CAP. IT'S NOT EVEN YOU KNOW, I
[01:13:03] MEAN, IT IT PLEASE SPEAK TO
[01:13:05] THAT. I'M ONE. ONE OF THE HEAR.
[01:13:10] >> ONE OF THE GREATEST POLICY. UH, YOU KNOW, CREATIONS OF OUR
[01:13:13] TIME IS PROGRESSIVE TAXATION.
[01:13:15] RIGHT. WHICH IT JUST MAKES SENSE TO PEOPLE. THE MORE MONEY YOU
[01:13:18] MAKE, THE MORE YOU PAY IN, UH,
[01:13:23] THE PROBLEM WITH SOCIAL SECURITY AND, YOU KNOW, SOCIAL SECURITY
[01:13:25] WORKS, IT'S AN AMAZING PROGRAM,
[01:13:27] BUT IT'S NOT PERFECT. AND YOU HAVE TO MAKE THINGS BETTER AS
[01:13:30] YOU GO ALONG. ONE OF THE THINGS
[01:13:34] THAT, THAT WE SHOULD SEE IS THAT
[01:13:35] THE REVENUE ON SOCIAL SECURITY
[01:13:38] IS NOT ONLY NOT PROGRESSIVE,
[01:13:40] IT'S REGRESSIVE. MEANING THE
[01:13:43] MORE YOU MAKE, THE LESS YOU PAY IN AS A PERCENTAGE. AND SO THIS
[01:13:47] IS THE ONE CASE, TOM, WHERE I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO, YOU
[01:13:51] WOULD SEE PROGRESSIVES. WE'RE
[01:13:53] NOT SAYING THAT ELON MUSK SHOULD
[01:13:56] PAY MORE INTO SOCIAL SECURITY.
[01:13:58] WE'RE SAYING THAT HE SHOULD JUST PAY THE SAME RATE AS A
[01:14:02] MINIMUM WAGE WORKER. >> WE SHOULD CALL IT A FLAT TAX.
[01:14:05] WE CALL IT A FLAT TAX, RIGHT? >> LIKE, TAKE THEIR LINGO AND
[01:14:08] PUT IT INTO SOCIAL SECURITY, BECAUSE IT'S TRUE. BUT THE, THE
[01:14:11] BEAUTY OF SOCIAL SECURITY IS ON
[01:14:16] THE BENEFIT SIDE. UM, WHICH IS I DON'T WANT TO GET TOO DEEP INTO THE WEEDS, BUT IT'S CALLED THE
[01:14:20] REPLACEMENT RATE. AND YOU REPLACE MORE OF THE DOLLARS THAT
[01:14:23] ARE PAID IN AS PREMIUMS AT THE
[01:14:25] LOWER END. SO FOR THOSE MINIMUM
[01:14:28] WAGE WORKERS, THEN AT THE HIGHER
[01:14:30] END, AND BECAUSE OF THAT, YOU
[01:14:33] HAVE THIS INCREDIBLE ENGINE
[01:14:35] AGAINST INEQUALITY, EVEN WITH
[01:14:38] THE REGRESSIVE REVENUE MODEL. BUT THE BENEFIT FORMULA IS SO
[01:14:42] PROGRESSIVE THAT IT IS A BRAKE
[01:14:44] ON INCOME AND WEALTH INEQUALITY.
[01:14:49] THAT WAS PART OF THE REASON FOR CREATING IT. IN THE MIDST OF THE
[01:14:52] GREAT DEPRESSION, WAS NOT JUST
[01:14:55] TO SOLVE THE ACUTE PROBLEM OF,
[01:14:58] YOU KNOW, 1 IN 2 SENIORS AT THE
[01:15:01] TIME LIVING IN POVERTY, 50%. BUT
[01:15:05] IT WAS TO PREVENT ANOTHER GREAT
[01:15:08] DEPRESSION FROM HAPPENING BY PREVENTING THE BILLIONAIRES FROM
[01:15:11] TAKING EVERYTHING AND LEAVING EVERYONE ELSE TO FIGHT FOR
[01:15:15] SCRAPS THAT FALL FROM THEIR TABLE. NOW, SOCIAL SECURITY
[01:15:18] DOESN'T DO IT ALONE. THE NEW DEAL WAS BIGGER, BUT THEY ALL
[01:15:21] HAD THIS SAME VISION, RIGHT? COLLECTIVELY, BARGAINING AND
[01:15:25] FORMING A UNION. THAT'S WORKERS
[01:15:28] BEING ABLE TO PUT A BRAKE ON, THE BILLIONAIRES, TAKING EVERYTHING. UM, UNEMPLOYMENT
[01:15:33] INSURANCE, RIGHT. SAYING IF A WORKER LOSES THEIR JOB THROUGH
[01:15:36] NO FAULT OF THEIR OWN, THEIR WAGES ARE GOING TO BE PROTECTED.
[01:15:40] SO THAT BILLIONAIRES CAN'T TAKE
[01:15:42] EVERYTHING AND LEAVE EVERYONE ELSE SCRAMBLING. SOCIAL SECURITY
[01:15:46] IS PART OF THAT. AND THAT'S WHY
[01:15:48] THE BILLIONAIRES HATE IT. THAT'S WHY THEY'RE TRYING TO
[01:15:52] DESTROY IT BY HOLLOWING OUT THE
[01:15:54] ADMINISTRATION, CLOSING OFFICES, AND BY TRYING TO LIE AND
[01:15:58] CONVINCE PEOPLE TO CUT THEIR OWN BENEFITS. AND THEY SAY THIS,
[01:16:02] THEY'VE SAID THIS, TOM, UH, THE
[01:16:05] GOAL OF THESE BILLIONAIRES IS TO CONVINCE YOU THAT YOU'RE GOING
[01:16:08] TO GET NOTHING SO THAT YOU WILL
[01:16:11] ACCEPT LESS THAN YOU'RE OWED. THEY KNOW THAT THE ONLY WAY
[01:16:15] THEY'RE GOING TO CUT OUR BENEFITS IS IF WE SIGN OFF ON
[01:16:18] THAT. AND THAT'S WHY IT'S SO
[01:16:20] IMPORTANT TO GET THE TRUTH OF WHAT THE BATTLE ACTUALLY IS OUT THERE.
[01:16:24] >> YEAH. THE, THE OTHER THING THAT I'D LIKE YOU TO SPEAK TO,
[01:16:27] UH, AND WE TALKED ABOUT THIS
[01:16:29] LAST TIME YOU AND I TALKED, ALEX, BUT I THINK IT, IT'S SO
[01:16:33] IMPORTANT. IT NEEDS TO BE EMPHASIZED, PARTICULARLY FOR OUR
[01:16:35] YOUNGER LISTENERS. I MEAN, THERE'S PEOPLE LISTENING TO THIS PROGRAM RIGHT NOW IN THEIR 20s,
[01:16:39] 30s, 40s, WHO ARE SAYING, I DON'T EVEN CARE ABOUT SOCIAL
[01:16:43] SECURITY. I, YOU KNOW, I MAY NOT LIVE THAT LONG. OR IF I DO, GOD
[01:16:46] ONLY KNOWS WHAT THE SITUATION IS
[01:16:47] GOING TO BE LIKE, BUT THEY
[01:16:51] ACTUALLY HAVE SOCIAL SECURITY INSURANCE ALSO. AND IT'S INSURANCE THAT IF YOU WERE TO GO
[01:16:55] OUT IN THE MARKETPLACE AND SAY, I'D LIKE TO BUY, YOU KNOW, CALL
[01:16:57] YOUR INSURANCE BROKER, I'D LIKE TO BUY A POLICY THAT SAYS THAT
[01:17:01] IF I GET IN A CAR ACCIDENT AND I'M DISABLED FOR THE REST OF MY
[01:17:03] LIFE, THAT YOUR INSURANCE
[01:17:06] COMPANY WILL PAY FOR MY RENT AND
[01:17:08] PAY FOR MY MEDICAL SERVICES, AND
[01:17:11] KEEP ME ALIVE FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE. THEY WOULD QUOTE YOU A PRICE THAT YOU. THERE'S NO WAY
[01:17:14] YOU COULD AFFORD IT. BUT EVERYBODY ACTUALLY, IN AMERICA,
[01:17:17] ALL THE YOUNG PEOPLE IN AMERICA, WHETHER YOU'RE FIVE YEARS OLD
[01:17:20] OR 50 YEARS OLD, HAS THAT IN SOCIAL SECURITY. CAN YOU SPEAK
[01:17:23] TO THAT?
[01:17:25] >> YEAH, I THINK IT'S AN OVERLOOKED PART OF SOCIAL
[01:17:28] SECURITY, AND IT'S BECAUSE IT FUNCTIONS SO WELL, UM, THAT
[01:17:32] PEOPLE ACTUALLY DON'T EVEN KNOW THE EXTENT TO WHICH THEY'RE PROTECTED BY IT. SO MOST PEOPLE
[01:17:36] THINK OF JUST THE RETIREMENT PORTION, WHICH, BY THE WAY, YOU
[01:17:38] COULDN'T FIND JUST THAT PIECE
[01:17:41] ON THE PRIVATE MARKET AND INFLATION PROTECTED ANNUITY. NO
[01:17:45] WAY. UM, BUT IT'S NOT JUST THAT
[01:17:49] WE ALSO HAVE $1 MILLION IN LIFE. AND THIS IS, UH, ESTIMATES, UH,
[01:17:53] YOU KNOW, $1 MILLION IN LIFE AND
[01:17:55] $1 MILLION IN LONG TERM DISABILITY INSURANCE, UH, WHICH
[01:17:59] FOR THE VAST MAJORITY OF
[01:18:02] AMERICANS IS THEIR LARGEST ASSET THAT THEY ALREADY HAVE. THEY
[01:18:06] JUST DON'T KNOW ABOUT IT. AND
[01:18:08] THAT'S THROUGH, UH, THE DISABILITY INSURANCE AND THE
[01:18:12] SURVIVOR'S, BENEFIT IN SOCIAL
[01:18:15] SECURITY. SO EVERYBODY IS
[01:18:18] COVERED BY SOCIAL SECURITY. IT IS TRULY A UNIVERSAL SYSTEM.
[01:18:21] THAT'S WHY IT WORKS SO WELL. AND THEN, TOM, I DO WANT TO
[01:18:25] POINT OUT, UM, YOUNG PEOPLE LOVE
[01:18:27] THE PROGRAM, SO I DON'T WORRY ABOUT THEM. UM, THAT, YOU KNOW,
[01:18:31] AS MUCH AS SOME PEOPLE FOMENTING
[01:18:35] GENERATIONAL WARFARE, UM, THAT'S WHAT THEY ALWAYS DO. BUT YOUNG PEOPLE LOVE SOCIAL
[01:18:38] SECURITY BECAUSE THEY KNOW IT. UM, IT'S JUST THERE, BUT ALSO
[01:18:42] THE THING THAT YOUNG PEOPLE DON'T KNOW AS MUCH IS THAT
[01:18:45] THEY'RE GOING TO NEED SOCIAL SECURITY MORE THAN ANYONE ELSE.
[01:18:48] AND THE CUTS ARE BIGGER FOR
[01:18:52] THEM. THE YOUNGER YOU ARE IN ALMOST EVERY PROPOSAL THAT THE
[01:18:55] REPUBLICANS PUT OUT, THE YOUNGER
[01:18:57] YOU ARE, THE BIGGER THE BENEFIT
[01:19:00] CUTS ARE. SO WHAT THEY ARE SAYING IS THEY TRY TO BUY OFF
[01:19:04] CURRENT BENEFICIARIES. THEY'RE LIKE, DON'T WORRY, WE'RE NOT GOING TO COME AFTER YOU THAT
[01:19:08] MUCH. WE'RE JUST GOING TO STEAL YOUR CHILDREN AND GRANDCHILDREN'S FUTURE. AND IT
[01:19:11] SHOWS HOW OUT OF TOUCH THEY ARE, BECAUSE CURRENT BENEFICIARIES
[01:19:15] ARE SENIORS RIGHT NOW ARE THE ONES WHO ARE FIGHTING HARDEST, NOT JUST FOR THEIR OWN BENEFITS,
[01:19:19] BUT FOR THEIR CHILDREN AND THEIR GRANDCHILDREN.
[01:19:22] >> AND ALSO, IT ALSO MEANS THAT YOUR KIDS DON'T HAVE TO CARE
[01:19:26] FOR YOU. YOU KNOW, IT'S. VERY
[01:19:28] TRUE. AND SO YOU'RE YEAH, YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. AND THIS IS,
[01:19:30] IT'S JUST, IT'S JUST NUTS
[01:19:33] THAT, THAT I, THIS IS WHAT
[01:19:36] ASTONISHES ME, ALEX, IS THAT THIS IS GETTING SO LITTLE PUBLICITY THAT IT'S NOT BEING
[01:19:40] TALKED ABOUT MORE, YOU KNOW, ACROSS THE POLITICAL SPECTRUM.
[01:19:43] BUT, BUT THANK YOU FOR, FOR THE GREAT WORK THAT YOU'RE DOING.
[01:19:46] PEOPLE CAN GO OVER TO SOCIAL
[01:19:49] SECURITY WORKS.ORG. AND IT DOES
[01:19:50] WORK. SOCIAL SECURITY WORKS.ORG, AND LEARN ALL ABOUT IT. ALEX
[01:19:54] LAWSON, THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF SOCIAL SECURITY, WORKS.
[01:19:56] THANKS AGAIN, ALEX.
[01:20:00] >> THANKS, TOM. >> GREAT SEEING YOU. IT IS 18 MINUTES PAST THE HOUR. I'LL BE
[01:20:03] BACK WITH MORE OF THE NEWS OF THE DAY AND YOUR CALLS IN JUST A
[01:20:07] MOMENT. UH, WHY IS WHISKEY PETE
[01:20:09] BUILDING A PENTAGON TROLL ARMY?
[01:20:11] AND IS THAT EVEN LEGAL >> [MUSIC]
[01:20:14] >> AND. WHOA, A SUPERSONIC JETLINER COMING. STICK AROUND.
[01:20:17] WE'LL BE RIGHT.
[01:20:19] >> BACK.
[01:20:23] >> THIS IS THE THOM HARTMANN PROGRAM.
[01:20:27] >> IT'S TALK MEDIA FOR THE REST
[01:20:28] OF US. WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK
[01:20:32] WITH.
[01:20:33] >> YOU.
[01:20:46] >> AND WELCOME BACK. AND HANG ON
[01:20:51] JUST A SECOND HERE. THERE YOU GO. HENRY AND JACKSON HEIGHTS, NEW YORK. HEY, HENRY, WHAT'S ON
[01:20:54] YOUR MIND TODAY?
[01:20:56] >> FOR TD? HEY, TOM. GOOD TO
[01:20:59] THANK YOU. I JUST WANTED TO ADD
[01:21:00] SOME, UM, STATISTICS TO WHAT YOU
[01:21:03] SAID ABOUT, UH, REAGAN AND
[01:21:06] IMMIGRATION. UH, BASICALLY THERE
[01:21:10] WERE APPROXIMATELY 3.5 MILLION UNDOCUMENTED IMMIGRANTS IN NEW
[01:21:13] YORK CITY IN THE, IN THE UNITED
[01:21:15] STATES IN 86. AND 3 MILLION OF
[01:21:20] THEM APPLIED FOR AMNESTY, 2.7
[01:21:22] MILLION. GOT IT. YEP. THAT'S A
[01:21:25] 75% NUMBER, WHICH IS INCREDIBLE.
[01:21:28] AND I JUST WISH THAT THESE
[01:21:30] IDIOTS IN WASHINGTON
[01:21:36] >> IT'S NOT ABOUT FIGURING SOMETHING OUT, HENRY. THEY'RE LOOKING AT THESE IMMIGRANTS WHO ARE, BY AND LARGE, NOT WHITE
[01:21:40] PEOPLE, AND THEY'RE SAYING, WE DON'T WANT THEM IN THIS
[01:21:42] COUNTRY. THIS IS ALL ABOUT RACE
[01:21:46] >> AGREE COMPLETELY. >> IT IS ENTIRELY ABOUT RACE.
[01:21:49] AND, AND THAT'S WHY THEY'RE SO ENTHUSIASTIC ABOUT THE
[01:21:52] BRUTALITY, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW,
[01:21:55] YOU KNOW AS RACIST WHITE PEOPLE
[01:21:59] APPARENTLY LOVE WATCHING BROWN AND BLACK PEOPLE BEING BEAT UP
[01:22:01] OR TORTURED OR THROWN INTO, INTO
[01:22:04] CONCENTRATION CAMPS FOR YEARS AND YEARS, YOU KNOW, TORN APART
[01:22:06] FROM THEIR CHILDREN. THEY, I THINK STEPHEN MILLER IS GLEEFUL
[01:22:09] ABOUT THIS. I THINK THE GUY'S A SADIST.
[01:22:13] >> I AGREE WITH YOU. BUT OF
[01:22:14] COURSE, THERE'S A NEGATIVE
[01:22:23] BECAUSE EMMA GOLDMAN, YOU KNOW, WRETCHED REFUSE IS OUT THE WINDOW.
[01:22:26] >> YEAH, YEAH. THE AT THE FOOT OF THE STATUE OF LIBERTY. YOU'RE
[01:22:30] ABSOLUTELY RIGHT, HENRY. THANK YOU. WELL SAID. UH, BOB IN RALEIGH, NORTH CAROLINA. HEY,
[01:22:34] BOB. WHAT'S UP? WHAT'S ON YOUR
[01:22:39] MIND TODAY? BOB IN RALEIGH,
[01:22:41] WATCHING US ON YOUTUBE BOB IS ON
[01:22:46] LINE SIX THERE. MATEO, IF YOU CAN CHECK HIM OUT, SEE WHAT'S
[01:22:48] GOING ON. MICHAEL IN. MATT B WASHINGTON. HEY, MICHAEL,
[01:22:52] WHAT'S ON YOUR MIND TODAY?
[01:22:54] >> HEY, TOM.
[01:22:56] >> YEAH, WELL, I WAS THINKING
[01:22:59] ABOUT DONALD TRUMP CHANGING THE NAME OF LAKE ONTARIO TO LAKE
[01:23:03] AMERICA. AND I THOUGHT, I GUESS
[01:23:05] I'M NOT AS ORIGINAL AS I
[01:23:08] THOUGHT THAT, UH, THAT WOULD
[01:23:10] CHANGE THE MNEMONIC FROM HOMES
[01:23:13] HERE ON ONTARIO, MICHIGAN, ERIE.
[01:23:14] SUPERIOR TO SHAME HERE ON
[01:23:22] AMERICA, MICHIGAN, ERIE. >> OH.
[01:23:24] >> WOW
[01:23:28] >> WOW. THAT'S A GOOD ONE TO PASS ON. HE'S BRINGING SHAME TO AMERICA.
[01:23:32] >> I, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I GREW
[01:23:33] UP IN MICHIGAN, RIGHT. AND SO I WENT TO SCHOOL IN LANSING, YOU
[01:23:37] KNOW, IN THE PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM. AND THAT'S WHERE WE
[01:23:39] LEARNED THAT HOLMES ACRONYM TO, TO MEMORIZE THE NAMES OF THE
[01:23:43] GREAT LAKES. AND PEOPLE WHO, YOU
[01:23:46] KNOW, HAVE NEVER BEEN TO MICHIGAN, MAY NOT EVEN KNOW
[01:23:48] ABOUT THAT, BUT, UH, WHAT A,
[01:23:53] WHAT AN INTERESTING TWIST. UH,
[01:23:55] YOU KNOW, I, I'M, I'M WAITING TO SEE IF CANADA IS GOING TO
[01:23:59] SAY, OKAY, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A DIVIDING LINE THAT RUNS THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF LAKE ONTARIO. AND
[01:24:02] SO WE'RE GOING TO RENAME OUR END OF IT. YOU KNOW, LIKE DOUG
[01:24:05] FORD WAS SAYING, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO NAME IT NATALIE LAKE,
[01:24:08] NATALIE, UM, OR SOMETHING
[01:24:10] ABSURD, YOU KNOW, LAKE EPSTEIN,
[01:24:13] BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, WE'LL SEE, WE'LL SEE WHERE THIS GOES. I DON'T THINK THE CANADIANS ARE
[01:24:17] GOING TO PUT UP WITH THIS. I DON'T THINK THE REST OF THE WORLD IS GOING TO, YOU KNOW, IT
[01:24:20] WAS IT WAS NAMED LAKE ONTARIO
[01:24:23] BEFORE THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION. IT WAS NAMED AFTER THE TRIBE
[01:24:26] THAT WAS THERE. IT'S BEEN LAKE ONTARIO SINCE THE 1600s. SO
[01:24:29] ANYHOW. YEAH, MICHAEL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE CALL. SPOT ON.
[01:24:32] UH, AND THANKS FOR REMINDING ME
[01:24:34] OF THAT ACRONYM. I HAD, FRANKLY FORGOTTEN. I MEAN, IT WAS
[01:24:38] LITERALLY THIRD GRADE STUFF, 22 MINUTES PAST THE HOUR. WE'LL BE
[01:24:42] RIGHT BACK. >> STICK AROUND.
[01:24:45] >> [MUSIC]
[01:24:52] >> JOIN C-SPAN 2 AT 6 P.M. EASTERN FOR MARATHON PROGRAMING, HIGHLIGHTING SOME OF THE MOST
[01:24:56] CONSEQUENTIAL, COMPELLING, AND
[01:24:57] MEMORABLE MOMENTS COVERED BY
[01:25:01] C-SPAN IN 2026. TODAY, SUPREME COURT JUSTICES DISCUSSING THEIR
[01:25:05] LIVES, THE CONSTITUTION, THE COURT, AND WHAT IT MEANS TO
[01:25:08] SERVE ON THE NATION'S HIGHEST
[01:25:09] COURT. WATCH A MARATHON OF
[01:25:12] COMPELLING PROGRAMING TODAY ON
[01:25:14] C-SPAN. TWO.
[01:25:19] >> IN MY COAT OF MANY COLORS, I HURRIED OFF TO SCHOOL JUST TO
[01:25:23] FIND THE OTHERS, LAUGHING AND
[01:25:25] MAKING FUN OF ME IN MY COAT OF
[01:25:29] MANY COLORS THAT MAMA MADE FOR
[01:25:31] ME. IN MY COAT OF MANY THAT MY
[01:25:35] MAMA MADE FOR ME. MADE ONLY FROM
[01:25:38] RAGS. BUT I WORE IT SO PROUDLY.
[01:25:42] AND ALTHOUGH WE HAD NO MONEY, I
[01:25:46] WAS RICH AS I COULD BE. IN MY
[01:25:48] COAT OF MANY COLORS. MAMA MADE
[01:25:54] FOR ME. >> DOLLY PARTON. READING AND
[01:25:56] SINGING TO CHILDREN. IN A 2018 APPEARANCE ON C-SPAN, THE
[01:26:00] TENNESSEE NATIVE, WHO DIED LAST
[01:26:01] WEEK AT THE AGE OF 80, HAS
[01:26:05] DONATED MORE THAN 300 MILLION BOOKS TO CHILDREN AS PART OF HER
[01:26:08] IMAGINATION LIBRARY PROGRAM ON SATURDAY, WE'LL REMEMBER THE
[01:26:12] LIFE AND LEGACY OF DOLLY PARTON
[01:26:14] THROUGH HER APPEARANCES ON
[01:26:17] C-SPAN. WATCH AT 8 P.M. EASTERN.
[01:26:24] NONFICTION BOOK LOVERS C-SPAN HAS A NUMBER OF PODCASTS FOR YOU LISTEN TO BESTSELLING NONFICTION
[01:26:27] AUTHORS AND INFLUENTIAL
[01:26:29] INTERVIEWERS ON THE AFTER WORDS
[01:26:32] PODCAST AND ON Q&A HERE. WIDE RANGING CONVERSATIONS WITH NONFICTION AUTHORS AND OTHERS
[01:26:36] WHO ARE MAKING THINGS HAPPEN, AND BOOKNOTES. PLUS, EPISODES.
[01:26:39] >> BOOSTER. SOMEBODY WHO'S A BIG
[01:26:41] FAN OF ELON MUSK, NAMED ONLINE
[01:26:45] WITH THE NAME DATA REPUBLICAN. IT'S ACTUALLY A MOM FROM UTAH.
[01:26:48] HER NAME IS JESSICA POUNDS, AND
[01:26:52] SHE'S BEEN OUT THERE, YOU KNOW,
[01:26:56] PUSHING ALL KINDS OF MEMES THAT ARE LIKE, PRO HEGSETH, PRO
[01:26:58] PENTAGON, PRO-WAR, PRO TRUMP.
[01:27:03] AND NOW WE LEARN THAT SHE
[01:27:06] ACTUALLY WORKS FOR THE PENTAGON
[01:27:11] FOR PETE HEGSETH. AND SHE GOT OUTED OVER ON X, WHICH IS
[01:27:15] ABSOLUTELY FASCINATING. THE SECRET WORK FOR THE PENTAGON CALLS INTO QUESTION THE
[01:27:19] MOTIVATION OF SOME OF HER POSTS.
[01:27:22] SHE POSTED, FOR EXAMPLE, AN ATTACK ON DAN DRISKELL. DAN
[01:27:25] DRISKELL IS THE CHIEF OF STAFF OF THE ARMY, OR THE ARMY
[01:27:28] SECRETARY, AND HEGSETH HATES
[01:27:31] HIM. IN FACT, HE MIGHT HAVE BEEN REPLACED BY NOW. I COULD BE
[01:27:34] WRONG ON THAT. BUT ANYHOW, SHE.
[01:27:36] SHE ATTACKED HIM. IS SHE DOING
[01:27:39] THIS BECAUSE PETE HEGSETH ASKED HER TO. UH, YOU KNOW, THIS THIS
[01:27:43] IS WEIRD. I MEAN, IN THE SOVIET
[01:27:48] UNION, THE GOVERNMENT DID
[01:27:50] PROPAGANDA TO ITS OWN PEOPLE. WE'VE DONE PROPAGANDA. WE USED
[01:27:54] TO DO PROPAGANDA TO OTHER PEOPLE. RIGHT. YOU KNOW, RADIO,
[01:27:57] FREE RADIO, FREE AMERICA, THE VOICE OF AMERICA, STUFF LIKE
[01:28:00] THAT. AND TRUMP HAS KILLED MOST
[01:28:03] OF THOSE PROGRAMS OR PUT CRAZIES IN CHARGE OF THEM, TURNED THEM
[01:28:06] INTO RIGHT WING OUTLETS. BUT WE USED TO DO, YOU KNOW,
[01:28:10] PRO-DEMOCRACY PROPAGANDA, BUT WE DIDN'T DO IT AGAINST OURSELVES.
[01:28:13] I MEAN, THE CLOSEST WE CAME TO THAT WAS DURING WORLD WAR TWO,
[01:28:17] WHEN THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE
[01:28:18] WAS DOING THESE FILMS ABOUT WHAT FASCISM IS. AND SOME OF THOSE
[01:28:22] ARE REALLY EXTRAORDINARY. YOU CAN FIND THEM. YOU KNOW, THEY
[01:28:25] LIVE ON YOUTUBE, AND THEY'RE
[01:28:27] JUST REMARKABLE. BUT, AND IN FACT, WE PLAYED SOME OF THEM ON
[01:28:30] THIS PROGRAM OVER THE YEARS.
[01:28:32] BUT, UH, HEGSETH ON THE ONE
[01:28:35] HAND, IS, HAS, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY GUTTED THE PRESS
[01:28:39] CORPS. AND, AND, YOU KNOW, ASKED
[01:28:44] THEM TO SIGN NDAS AND ALL KINDS OF WILD STUFF. I MEAN, YOU KNOW,
[01:28:46] IN OTHER WORDS, PREVENT US FROM
[01:28:48] GETTING CLEAR AND ACCURATE AND HONEST INFORMATION. AND NOW,
[01:28:51] APPARENTLY, HE'S HIRING PEOPLE
[01:28:54] TO PROMOTE PHONY BALONEY INFORMATION. AND, YOU KNOW, NOT
[01:28:57] ONLY DOES THAT SEEM UN-AMERICAN
[01:29:00] TO ME, IT SEEMS, FRANKLY,
[01:29:02] ILLEGAL. SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO
[01:29:05] MAKE OF THIS, BUT I THINK THIS
[01:29:06] IS A MUCH BIGGER STORY THAN
[01:29:09] IT'S GETTING PLAY IN THE MEDIA. IT'S BASICALLY A LITTLE BLIP IN THE MEDIA. IT SHOULD BE A BIG
[01:29:13] DEAL. WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK.
[01:29:15] >> YOU'RE LISTENING TO THE THOM
[01:29:18] HARTMANN PROGRAM. CALL
[01:29:21] 20208089925. >> HEY, A SUPERSONIC JET MIGHT BE COMING. I GOT TO TELL YOU WHY
[01:29:24] I'M EXCITED ABOUT THAT. I'LL BE RIGHT BACK WITH THAT. AND YOUR CALLS.
[01:29:28] >> STICK AROUND
[01:29:44] >> GOOD MORNING. THIS IS THE COMMONWEALTH REPORT, GEEKY
[01:29:47] SCIENCE FRIDAY VERSION. NEWS FOR THE PUBLIC, NOT THE POWERFUL. YOU CAN FOLLOW US AT
[01:29:50] COMMONWEALTH REPORT.NEWS. DID
[01:29:52] CLIMATE CHANGE BUILD THIS HEAT
[01:29:55] DOME? OVER 80 MILLION AMERICANS, MORE THAN 80 MILLION AMERICANS
[01:29:58] ARE UNDER AN EXTREME HEAT
[01:30:00] WARNING OR A HEAT ADVISORY THIS WEEK. FORECASTERS CALL THIS HEAT
[01:30:03] DOME STEAMY EVEN BY LATE AUGUST,
[01:30:06] STANDARDS. RECORD HEAT KEEPS PUNISHING THE SOUTH CENTRAL STATES AND SPREADS INTO THE
[01:30:10] SOUTHWEST BY MIDWEEK, WITH HIGHS WELL ABOVE 100 DEGREES IN PARTS
[01:30:13] OF ARIZONA AND NEW MEXICO,
[01:30:17] TOPPING 110. THE HEAT INDEX HIT
[01:30:19] 105 TO 115 ACROSS SOUTHERN
[01:30:22] ARIZONA. TEXAS, LOUISIANA AND NORTHERN FLORIDA. THE KNIGHTS
[01:30:25] WON'T COOL DOWN EITHER, AND THAT'S WHEN THE BODY IS
[01:30:27] SUPPOSED TO RECOVER. MICHAEL
[01:30:30] WEHNER OF LAWRENCE BERKELEY
[01:30:33] NATIONAL LABORATORY, SAYS CLIMATE CHANGE HAS RAISED
[01:30:35] ORDINARY HEAT WAVES BY 3 TO 5°F.
[01:30:39] AMERICAN HEAT WAVES HAVE DOUBLED SINCE THE 1980s. HEAT ALREADY
[01:30:42] KILLS MORE PEOPLE THAN HURRICANES, WILDFIRES AND FLOODS
[01:30:46] COMBINED. AND THOSE DEATHS GET UNDERCOUNTED. AND TRUMP KEEPS
[01:30:49] CUTTING. THE VERY FORECASTERS WHO WARN US AND CLAIMING THAT
[01:30:53] IT'S ALL JUST A HOAX. BIG OIL
[01:30:56] DRAINED A LAKE MEAD'S WORTH OF WATER FROM THE WEST. NOW WE KNOW
[01:31:00] WHO DID IT. A NEW STUDY IN
[01:31:03] NATURE COMMUNICATIONS, EARTH AND
[01:31:06] ENVIRONMENT, FINDS THAT 122
[01:31:08] FOSSIL FUEL AND CEMENT COMPANIES ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR ABOUT HALF
[01:31:11] THE WATER CLIMATE CHANGE HAS
[01:31:13] STOLEN FROM THE AMERICAN WEST
[01:31:16] FROM 2014 TO 2024, WARMING CUT THE REGION'S SNOWPACK BY MORE
[01:31:19] THAN A THIRD, AND DROPPED STREAMFLOWS BY 13%. THE CARBON
[01:31:23] MAJORS SHARE OF THAT LOSS ADDS UP TO TRILLIONS OF GALLONS,
[01:31:27] ROUGHLY THE ENTIRE CAPACITY OF LAKE MEAD. IN THE LOWER COLORADO
[01:31:31] RIVER BASIN, STREAMFLOW FELL 21%. 40 MILLION PEOPLE DEPEND ON
[01:31:35] THAT RIVER. COAUTHOR CARLY
[01:31:38] PHILLIPS OF THE UNION OF CONCERNED SCIENTISTS, SAYS THE
[01:31:41] COMPANIES, QUOTE, ENGAGED IN A
[01:31:43] CAMPAIGN OF DELAY AND DENIAL AND
[01:31:46] DECEPTION. CITIES AND STATES ARE
[01:31:48] ALREADY SUING. THE STUDY HANDS THEM THE PROOF IS THE SWEETENER
[01:31:52] IN YOUR GUM, RAISING YOUR HEART ATTACK. RISK. XYLITOL SHOWS UP
[01:31:55] IN SUGAR FREE GUM, CANDY, BAKED GOODS, AND TOOTHPASTE, AND IT'S
[01:31:59] SOLD AS A SAFE CHOICE. NOW, RESEARCH. NEW RESEARCH PRESENTED
[01:32:03] AT THE EUROPEAN SOCIETY OF
[01:32:06] CARDIOLOGY CONGRESS SAYS
[01:32:10] OTHERWISE. RESEARCHERS AT SHAKUR UNIVERSITY HOSPITAL IN BERLIN TRACKED ROUGHLY 17,000 PEOPLE
[01:32:13] ACROSS CANADIAN AND EUROPEAN
[01:32:16] STUDIES. AMONG CANADIAN PARTICIPANTS, THOSE CONSUMING
[01:32:18] THE MOST, XYLITOL HAD A 57%
[01:32:22] HIGHER RISK OF A MAJOR CARDIOVASCULAR EVENT OVER SIX YEARS. AND THE EUROPEAN GROUP,
[01:32:26] THE RISK RAN 18% HIGHER OVER 30
[01:32:29] YEARS. LEAD AUTHOR MARCO WITTKOWSKI SAYS FURTHER STUDIES
[01:32:32] ARE WARRANTED, ESPECIALLY AS PRODUCT LEVELS KEEP CLIMBING.
[01:32:35] THIS IS OBSERVATIONAL WORK, SO
[01:32:37] IT CAN'T PROVE CAUSE. BUT
[01:32:41] REGULATORS CALL THESE SWEETENERS SAFE. DECADES AGO, AND NEVER
[01:32:42] WENT BACK TO CHECK. WHILE MANUFACTURERS KEPT INCREASING
[01:32:46] THE DOSES CAN A DIET SODA REALLY
[01:32:53] TRIPLE YOUR STOMACH CANCER RISK? MASS GENERAL BRIGHAM RESEARCHERS FOLLOWED 112,284 PEOPLE IN THE
[01:32:57] NURSES HEALTH STUDY AND THE HEALTH PROFESSIONALS FOLLOW UP
[01:33:00] STUDY. FOR DECADES. PEOPLE WHO DRANK AT LEAST ONE SUGAR
[01:33:03] SWEETENED BEVERAGE A DAY HAD
[01:33:07] 2.45 TIMES THE RISK OF STOMACH CANCER, COMPARED TO PEOPLE WHO
[01:33:10] DRANK LESS THAN ONE A MONTH. AMONG WOMEN DRINKING MORE THAN
[01:33:13] ONE A DAY, THE RISK RAN MORE
[01:33:15] THAN THREE TIMES HIGHER. SODAS,
[01:33:18] FRUIT PUNCH, LEMONADE AND SPORT DRINKS ALL COUNTED. DIET SODAS
[01:33:21] SHOWED NO LINK AT ALL. SENIOR AUTHOR ANDREW CHAN SAYS THE RISK
[01:33:24] APPEARS MEANINGFUL. HIGHER FOR
[01:33:28] REGULAR DRINKERS. STOMACH CANCER IS STILL RARE, AND THIS IS AN
[01:33:31] ASSOCIATION, NOT PROOF. BUT ROUGHLY 65% OF AMERICAN ADULTS
[01:33:34] DRINK ONE OF THESE EVERY DAY, AND THE BEVERAGE INDUSTRY SPENDS
[01:33:37] MILLIONS. MAKING SURE THAT
[01:33:41] DOESN'T CHANGE. THE FDA APPROVES A PANCREATIC CANCER
[01:33:43] BREAKTHROUGH, PRICED AT $39,000
[01:33:46] A MONTH. FOR 40 YEARS,
[01:33:48] SCIENTISTS CALLED THE KRAS GENE
[01:33:51] UNDRUGGABLE. IT DRIVES MORE THAN
[01:33:53] 90% OF PANCREATIC TUMORS, AND THE PROTEIN IS SO SMOOTH, THE
[01:33:57] DRUGS SLIDE RIGHT OFF IT. ON
[01:33:58] WEDNESDAY, THE FDA APPROVED
[01:34:02] DARAXONRASIB SOLD AS RESCON, A ONCE DAILY PILL FROM REVOLUTION
[01:34:06] MEDICINES. THE FDA CLEARED IT SIX AND A HALF MONTHS EARLY
[01:34:08] UNDER A NEW EXPEDITED REVIEW,
[01:34:10] FIVE WEEKS AFTER THE COMPANY
[01:34:13] FILED IN A PHASE THREE TRIAL OF
[01:34:15] 500 PATIENTS WITH METASTATIC
[01:34:17] PANCREATIC CANCER. MEDIAN
[01:34:19] SURVIVAL WENT FROM 6.7 MONTHS ON
[01:34:21] CHEMOTHERAPY TO 13.2 MONTHS ON
[01:34:26] THE PILL. IT CUT THE RISK OF DEATH BY 60%. MD ANDERSON, SUBCOMPACT, COMPARED CRASS TO A
[01:34:30] SHINY BALL. BUT HERE'S THE CATCH. REVOLUTION MEDICINE
[01:34:34] PRICED IT AT $39,800 FOR A 30
[01:34:38] DAY SUPPLY. THAT'S A REAL MEDICAL BREAKTHROUGH. LOCKED BEHIND A PRICE. NOBODY WITHOUT
[01:34:42] GOOD INSURANCE CAN TOUCH WHAT
[01:34:46] HAPPENS WHEN THE OCEANS, THE FORESTS, AND THE WHEAT ALL BREAK
[01:34:48] AT ONCE? BILL MCKIBBEN LAID IT
[01:34:50] OUT THIS WEEK. THE GLOBAL SEA
[01:34:53] SURFACE JUST HIT THE HIGHEST TEMPERATURE EVER RECORDED. AND
[01:34:56] ONE CANADIAN SCIENTIST FIGURES. AUGUST 21st WAS LIKELY THE
[01:34:59] WARMEST OCEAN SINCE THE LAST
[01:35:03] INTERGLACIAL 125,000 YEARS AGO. 42% OF THE WORLD'S OCEAN IS IN
[01:35:07] A MARINE HEAT WAVE RIGHT NOW. CORAL IS BLEACHING AGAIN, AND
[01:35:10] REEFS FEED 500 MILLION PEOPLE
[01:35:13] OUT WEST. HOT FIRES ARE TURNING CONIFER FORESTS INTO SHRUBLAND
[01:35:16] FOR GOOD. STUDIES SAY 40% OF
[01:35:20] WESTERN CONIFERS COULD BE GONE BY 2100. SOME WESTERN STATES GET
[01:35:23] 75% OF THEIR WATER FROM SNOWMELT, AND THE WHEAT IS
[01:35:25] FAILING. AMERICA IS HEADING FOR
[01:35:27] ITS WORST WHEAT HARVEST IN 50
[01:35:30] YEARS. ONE NEW STUDY SAYS THREE DEGREES OF WARMING COULD TRIPLE
[01:35:33] GLOBAL WHEAT PRICES. MCKIBBEN'S
[01:35:36] POINT IS SIMPLE POLITICS IS A SUBSET OF PHYSICS. YOU CAN LIE
[01:35:39] ABOUT A LOT. A LOT OF THINGS.
[01:35:42] BUT WHEAT IS REAL, AND THAT'S
[01:35:44] THE WAY IT IS TODAY. FRIDAY,
[01:35:46] AUGUST 28th, 2026. I'M THOM
[01:35:49] HARTMANN
[01:35:57] >> JOIN C-SPAN 2 AT 6 P.M. EASTERN FOR MARATHON PROGRAMING,
[01:36:00] HIGHLIGHTING SOME OF THE MOST CONSEQUENTIAL, COMPELLING, AND
[01:36:03] MEMORABLE MOMENTS COVERED BY
[01:36:06] C-SPAN IN 2026. TODAY, SUPREME
[01:36:09] COURT JUSTICES DISCUSSING THEIR LIVES, THE CONSTITUTION, THE
[01:36:12] COURT, AND WHAT IT MEANS TO SERVE ON THE NATION'S HIGHEST
[01:36:16] COURT. WATCH A MARATHON OF
[01:36:19] COMPELLING PROGRAMING TODAY ON C-SPAN.
[01:36:22] >> I BELIEVE I WAS FLYING LOUISE AROUND BEFORE WE GOT MARRIED,
[01:36:26] AND THAT WAS WHEN I WAS 21, SO IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME THAT I'VE
[01:36:29] BEEN A PILOT. I HAVEN'T FLOWN IN A FEW YEARS, BUT I LOVE
[01:36:32] AIRPLANES, I LOVE AVIATION WHEN
[01:36:34] I HAVE TO TRAVEL FOR BUSINESS OR
[01:36:36] PLEASURE. I JUST LOVE GETTING ON AIRPLANES. I, YOU KNOW, I'M A
[01:36:40] TOTAL GEEK. AND SO THIS REALLY
[01:36:44] EXCITED ME. UH, THIS COMPANY
[01:36:46] CALLED BOOM SUPERSONIC, THEY'VE GOT THIS NEW PLANE CALLED THE
[01:36:50] OVERTURE. AND IT, IT'S THE HEIR
[01:36:54] TO THE CONCORDE. IT WILL FLY AT
[01:36:57] 1300 MILES AN HOUR. THAT'S ABOUT TWICE THE SPEED OF A NORMAL
[01:37:01] AIRPLANE OVER WATER. UH, AMERICAN AIRLINES, UNITED
[01:37:04] AIRLINES, AND JAPAN AIRLINES HAVE ALREADY PREORDERED IT. UH, THEY THINK IT'S GOING TO BE,
[01:37:08] UH, IN THE AIR BY 2030. SO JUST,
[01:37:12] YOU KNOW, FOUR YEARS FROM NOW.
[01:37:14] AND, UH, THE CONCORDE. I NEVER GOT TO FLY ON THE CONCORDE. I
[01:37:18] GOT BUMPED OFF A FLIGHT IN LONDON ONCE, AND THE ONLY THING
[01:37:22] THAT COULD GET ME BACK HOME ON
[01:37:24] THAT DAY WAS THE CONCORDE. BUT IT WAS. SO, I MEAN, THIS WAS
[01:37:27] BACK, YOU KNOW, 30 YEARS AGO. IT WAS SO EXPENSIVE. I JUST
[01:37:29] COULDN'T DO IT, YOU KNOW? SO I WAITED A DAY AND TOOK A REGULAR
[01:37:33] PLANE. BUT IT WAS GROUNDED IN
[01:37:37] 2003, UH, AIR FRANCE IN MAY AND BRITISH AIRWAYS IN NOVEMBER. AND THAT WAS THE END OF THE
[01:37:40] CONCORDE. UM, BUT I AND THE, AND
[01:37:44] THE COOL THING IS THEY SAY THAT THEY'RE ONLY GOING TO CHARGE NORMAL BUSINESS CLASS FARE,
[01:37:48] WHICH I REALIZE IS, YOU KNOW, STIFF FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE. BUT,
[01:37:52] UH, I'M EXCITED. I, YOU KNOW, FORGIVE ME FOR BEING A LITTLE
[01:37:55] KID HERE. ALL RIGHT. SO WHAT'S ON YOUR MIND TODAY, JERRY, IN
[01:37:59] TAMPA, FLORIDA. HEY, JERRY. WHAT'S UP?
[01:38:02] >> HEY, TOM. UM. I'M JUST. I'M JUST.
[01:38:05] >> REALLY CONFUSED ABOUT ONE THING, AND I DON'T THINK TRUMP
[01:38:08] HAS BEEN SPECIFIC ENOUGH IS
[01:38:10] THAT, UM, I KEEP READING REPORTS
[01:38:12] WHERE THE MILITARY OR THE NAVY
[01:38:15] IS ABLE TO TAKE MINDS OUT OF THE
[01:38:17] STRAIT OF HORMUZ. I THOUGHT ALL
[01:38:21] ALONG THAT IRAN WAS CONTROLLING, CONTROLLING THE STRAIT OF HORMUZ. BUT I KEEP READING WHAT
[01:38:24] I THINK ARE LEGITIMATE REPORTS OF THAT. AND, AND I DON'T GET TO
[01:38:28] SPEND ALL DAY ON IT. MAYBE, YOU KNOW, MORE THAN I DO ON HERE?
[01:38:32] >> I DON'T KNOW MORE THAN YOU DO, JERRY. I'VE SEEN THE
[01:38:35] CONFLICTING REPORTS THERE. THERE
[01:38:37] ARE REPORTS THAT SOME SHIPS ARE MAKING IT THROUGH AND OTHERS
[01:38:40] AREN'T. UH, APPARENTLY, IF YOU
[01:38:42] PAY IRAN AND OMAN, OR AT LEAST IRAN A FEE, THEY WILL LET YOU
[01:38:46] THROUGH. BUT THEN, YOU KNOW, WE'RE THREATENING TO, TO, TO
[01:38:49] BLOW UP SHIPS THAT GO THROUGH. TRUMP SAYS HE'S BLOCKING THE
[01:38:53] STRAITS, BUT IT APPEARS THAT
[01:38:56] SOME STUFF IS GOING THROUGH. AND THAT'S THE STUFF THAT, YOU
[01:38:59] KNOW, MOSTLY FOR OUR ALLY COUNTRIES LIKE BAHRAIN AND UAE,
[01:39:03] YOU KNOW, THINGS LIKE FOOD AND STUFF. AND APPARENTLY THE WAY
[01:39:06] THAT THAT'S WORKING IS THAT THEY
[01:39:08] ARE ACTUALLY PAYING IRAN. AND WE'RE LETTING THEM THROUGH,
[01:39:12] BECAUSE THERE ARE ALLIES. UM,
[01:39:16] BUT BEYOND THAT, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE NUMBERS ARE. I KNOW
[01:39:19] THAT WE'RE WAY DOWN. YOU KNOW, WE USED TO HAVE A COUPLE HUNDRED
[01:39:22] SHIPS A DAY, AND NOW IT'S DOWN
[01:39:24] IN THE DOZENS. UH, AT THAT. BUT BEYOND THAT, I CAN'T, I CAN'T
[01:39:27] INFORM YOU. INFORM YOU. JERRY, I'M SORRY.
[01:39:31] >> I DEFINITELY BELIEVE THAT THE, THE LOWER ESTIMATES OF
[01:39:34] WHAT'S GOING THROUGH ARE CORRECT. CAN I SAY SOMETHING
[01:39:37] ABOUT DOLLY PARTON, TOO, PLEASE?
[01:39:40] UM, DOLLY. PARTON, I THINK IS OUR GENERATION'S ANDREW
[01:39:44] CARNEGIE. YOU KNOW, SHE COULD HAVE, SHE, SHE WAS. SHE
[01:39:47] CERTAINLY DIED A MILLIONAIRE, BUT, UH, BUT SHE COULD HAVE BEEN
[01:39:49] A BILLIONAIRE OR WHATEVER, BUT
[01:39:51] SHE CHOSE TO USE HER MONEY TO
[01:39:54] SPEND IT ON PEOPLE A LOT LESS
[01:39:57] FORTUNATE THAN SHE WAS AT EVERY TURN. SHE WAS, YOU KNOW, SHE WAS
[01:40:01] A BENEFACTOR. >> YEAH. SHE WAS RAISING MONEY
[01:40:03] FOR A CHILDREN'S CANCER CHARITY AS SHE WAS DYING FROM CANCER.
[01:40:07] UH, YOU KNOW, SHE HELPED FUND THE COVID VACCINE. SHE PUT $1
[01:40:10] MILLION INTO VACCINE RESEARCH THAT HELPED, THAT HELPED DEVELOP
[01:40:13] THE MRNA VACCINE. SHE ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, SHE, SHE ACTUALLY
[01:40:16] HELPED FUND THAT VACCINE AND
[01:40:19] DOESN'T GET ANYWHERE NEAR ENOUGH CREDIT FOR IT. UH, SHE,
[01:40:22] AND, YOU KNOW, SHE WAS JUST A
[01:40:23] GOOD AND LOVING PERSON. AND, UH,
[01:40:27] WHAT'S SO BIZARRE IS TRUMP IS TRYING TO CLAIM HER, UH, WHEN SHE WAS A HUGE ADVOCATE FOR THE
[01:40:31] QUEER COMMUNITY AND FOR THE TRANS COMMUNITY. UM, THERE ARE A
[01:40:34] LOT OF TRANS DOLLY, PARTON
[01:40:38] IMITATORS, AND SHE LOVED THEM ALL. SO. YEAH. JERRY. THANK YOU.
[01:40:41] THANKS. SPOT ON. UH, DEAN IN LOS ANGELES. HEY, DEAN, THANKS FOR
[01:40:44] LISTENING TO KPFK. WHAT'S UP
[01:40:49] >> IT'S, UH. >> IT'S BEEN A WHILE SINCE I'VE
[01:40:51] SPOKEN WITH YOU, BUT I, I, UH, I
[01:40:54] WANTED TO RIFF ON THE, UH, THE
[01:40:56] POSTAL SERVICE'S, UM, THEIR,
[01:40:59] THEIR, UH, DECREE THAT JUST GOT
[01:41:02] BLOCKED BY A JUDGE. RIGHT. UH, THAT'S IN DERRY. TALWANI. AND I
[01:41:06] WANT TO GIVE HER MY HERO OF THE WEEK AWARD, BECAUSE.
[01:41:09] >> I'M WITH YOU. >> UH, I FEEL LIKE, UH, YOU
[01:41:13] KNOW, IN, IN, IN A WAY, SHE
[01:41:15] REALLY IS THE, THE SINGLE MOST
[01:41:20] IMPORTANT PERSON I FEEL TO HAVE
[01:41:22] LITERALLY STOPPED THIS AGENCY FROM BECOMING THE, YOU KNOW,
[01:41:25] AIDING AND ABETTING. YEAH. AN
[01:41:28] ACTUAL EXTORTION RING THERE. >> YOU KNOW, IN HER, IN HER
[01:41:31] DECISION YESTERDAY, SHE SAID
[01:41:34] THAT THE REASON THAT SHE RULED AGAINST THE GOVERNMENT WAS THAT
[01:41:37] THEY HAD FAILED TO PROVIDE HER
[01:41:40] WITH ANY EVIDENCE AT ALL, THAT THERE WAS ACTUALLY A PROBLEM OF
[01:41:44] NONCITIZEN VOTING, THAT THIS WOULD SOLVE.
[01:41:46] >> THERE YOU KNOW, NON-CITIZENS
[01:41:50] OR MISTAKEN VOTES OR FRAUDULENT
[01:41:52] VOTES, EVEN. ARE, YOU KNOW,
[01:41:57] .0007. >> YEAH, THERE'S NO. >> ONE OUT OF 15 MILLION VOTES. >> YEAH. NO ELECTION IN AMERICAN
[01:41:59] HISTORY HAS EVER BEEN CHANGED, BECAUSE PEOPLE WHO AREN'T
[01:42:02] CITIZENS VOTED. I MEAN, THERE'S
[01:42:05] >> SURE. THAT KIND OF TIES INTO
[01:42:07] THIS. IF YOU CONSIDER THAT, UH,
[01:42:09] I THINK IT'S A MISNOMER THAT WE
[01:42:11] KEEP CALLING NOVEMBER 3rd, THE,
[01:42:14] UH, THE MIDTERM ELECTION DAY OR A FEDERAL ELECTION DAY. IT'S,
[01:42:18] IT'S THE CONCLUSION OF THE MIDTERM ELECTION THAT ACTUALLY,
[01:42:21] THAT'S WHEN IT STARTS. THE
[01:42:24] FIRST MAIL IN BALLOTS WILL BE ACCEPTED A WEEK FROM TODAY.
[01:42:27] >> YEP. >> IN SOUTH CAROLINA.
[01:42:30] >> BASICALLY, NORTH CAROLINA. >> NORTH CAROLINA. YEAH. >> SO IN NORTH CAROLINA, AND
[01:42:34] THEN FOLLOWED WITHIN JUST A FEW
[01:42:35] DAYS, IT ACTUALLY, WE WILL SEE,
[01:42:38] UH, OF ALL THINGS ALABAMA. AND,
[01:42:42] UH, AND THERE'S ANOTHER ONE UP IN THE NORTHEAST. YEAH. BUT
[01:42:46] ANYWAY, WITHIN ABOUT TWO WEEKS, WHICH IS THE LIMIT THE JUDGE HAD
[01:42:50] ON THIS 14 DAY, UH, RESTRAINING
[01:42:53] ORDER, UH, THERE WILL BE TEN
[01:42:57] STATES ACCEPTING BALLOTS. SO WHAT I SEE IN THAT IS, OKAY, NOW
[01:43:01] THE SUPREME COURT HAS TO ARGUE
[01:43:02] IT'S OKAY TO, YOU KNOW,
[01:43:06] INTERRUPT AND NULLIFY MILLIONS OF VOTES. >> AN ONGOING ELECTION. >> SO MY FEELING IS, YOU KNOW,
[01:43:10] BOB, OUT IN RALEIGH, I HOPE HE GETS OUT AND VOTES.
[01:43:12] >> YEAH. MY, MY SENSE OF THIS,
[01:43:15] DEAN, IS THAT WHILE THEY'RE
[01:43:19] TRYING TO DO IT FOR THIS ELECTION, THAT THE REAL PLAN HERE FROM REPUBLICANS WHO ARE
[01:43:22] LOOKING AT THE LONG HORIZON IS FOR THE PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION IN
[01:43:26] TWO YEARS. UH, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE TRYING TO RIG THE NEXT
[01:43:29] PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION BECAUSE THEY REALLY DO NOT WANT A DEMOCRAT IN THE WHITE HOUSE WHO
[01:43:32] CAN SIGN LEGISLATION. SO WE'LL.
[01:43:35] >> SEE, UH, CROSS OUR FINGERS AND HOPE THAT WE GET SOME, UH,
[01:43:38] SOME, YOU KNOW, EMPOWERED, UH,
[01:43:42] CONGRESS MEMBERS IN THERE TO ACTUALLY DO SOMETHING TO PREVENT THAT. >> I'M WITH YOU, DEAN. THANK
[01:43:46] YOU. WELL SAID. MARK, IN PANAMA, IN CENTRAL AMERICA. HEY, MARK,
[01:43:50] THANKS FOR WATCHING US ON YOUTUBE. WHAT'S UP
[01:43:54] >> UH.
[01:43:56] >> AN EARLIER CALLER SAID. >> SOMETHING THAT RESONATED THAT
[01:43:59] WE ALL GET THE SAME HOUR, OR WE ALL GET THE SAME DAY. UM,
[01:44:02] SOMETHING TO THAT EXTENT. >> YEAH. >> SO IT JUST STARTED MAKING ME
[01:44:06] THINK ONE THING THAT WORKS WHEN I'M TRYING TO DISCUSS WITH
[01:44:10] PEOPLE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN
[01:44:15] RICH AND WEALTHY. SO A MILLION, MOST PEOPLE THINK A MILLIONAIRE
[01:44:18] IS RICH. SO 1,000,000 SECONDS IS
[01:44:22] 11.5 DAYS BILLION. SECONDS IS 32
[01:44:27] YEARS. >> YEAH. >> SO IF YOU THINK THAT.
[01:44:30] >> THERE'S MORE THAN JUST AN ORDER OF MAGNITUDE. >> RIGHT.
[01:44:33] >> RIGHT, RIGHT. AND THAT'S EXACTLY. EVERYBODY'S A MILLIONAIRE, BILLIONAIRE, TRILLIONAIRE. IT'S ALL THE
[01:44:37] SAME. SO A TRILLIONAIRE IS 32000 YEARS. >> EXACTLY.
[01:44:41] >> IN TIME. PEOPLE CAN RELATE TO
[01:44:45] TIME. IF YOU SAY YOU'RE STACKING DOLLARS FROM HERE TO THE MOON,
[01:44:48] IT MEANS NOTHING. BUT WHEN YOU'RE TALKING TIME, IF YOU'RE
[01:44:50] LIKE, OKAY, IS 11 DAYS THE SAME
[01:44:54] AS 32 YEARS? WELL, NO. AND
[01:44:57] PEOPLE CAN REALIZE IT'S HALF A LIFETIME COMPARED TO A LONG
[01:45:01] VACATION. >> YEAH, YEAH. >> EXCELLENT POINT. OKAY.
[01:45:04] EXCELLENT POINT. MARK. YOU WIN. OUR EDUCATOR OF THE DAY AWARD. >> THANK >> WELL.
[01:45:08] >> REAL QUICK, I WANT TO PROPOSE
[01:45:11] YOU'RE USING MORBIDLY RICH. >> MORBIDLY RICH.
[01:45:15] >> SO I WANT TO, I WANT TO, UH,
[01:45:18] PROPOSE WANTONLY WEALTHY. >> OKAY.
[01:45:20] >> UH, BECAUSE, WEALTHY CHRIS
[01:45:23] ROCK HAS A REALLY GREAT, UH, BIT
[01:45:26] THAT HE DOES ON THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN RICH AND WEALTHY. AND HE
[01:45:29] SAYS, SHAQ IS RICH, THE MAN WHO,
[01:45:32] WHO SIGNS HIS CHECK IS WEALTHY. >> MHM.
[01:45:35] >> SO PEOPLE WHO FLY FIRST CLASS
[01:45:38] ARE RICH. THE MAN WHO OWNS THE
[01:45:40] AIRLINES IS WEALTHY. YEAH. AND
[01:45:43] THAT'S WHAT WE'RE REALLY TALKING ABOUT HERE, IS NOT
[01:45:45] SOMEBODY WHO HAS A NICE
[01:45:48] LIFESTYLE, BUT SOMEBODY WHO, YOU KNOW, LIKE YOU SAID, IT'S, IT'S,
[01:45:51] IT'S MORE, UH, IT'S SO ANYWAY,
[01:45:56] THE WORD WANTON, UH, REFERS TO
[01:45:58] BEHAVIOR THAT'S MERCILESS, INHUMANE, EXTREME, SHOWING NO
[01:46:02] CARE FOR OTHERS, OFTEN ASSOCIATED WITH CRUELTY OR
[01:46:06] RECKLESS DISREGARD FOR SAFETY. IT CAN ALSO DESCRIBE SOMEONE WHO
[01:46:09] IS LEWD, SEXUALLY. >> WHILE THE WANTON WEALTHY.
[01:46:13] >> WANTONLY WEALTHY. >> A GREAT PHRASE. THANK YOU
[01:46:15] MARK. THANK YOU. 44.5 MINUTES
[01:46:18] PAST THE HOUR. BACK WITH MORE OF YOUR CALLS IN JUST A MINUTE.
[01:46:21] >> STAY WITH US.
[01:46:22] >> [MUSIC]
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[01:46:43] >> YOU.
[01:46:48] >> [MUSIC]
[01:46:58] >> WELCOME BACK, RON. AND, UH,
[01:47:00] OSLO, MINNESOTA. HEY, RON. WHAT'S UP?
[01:47:03] >> THAT IS CORRECT RON, AND I'M
[01:47:05] A NICE GUY. HOW YOU DOING TODAY
[01:47:10] >> WHAT'S ON YOUR MIND? >> WELL. >> YOU ASKED ME WHAT TO CALL.
[01:47:14] UH, THE UBER WEALTHY AND THINGS
[01:47:16] LIKE THAT. I BECAUSE YOU GOT
[01:47:20] THAT KIND OF MONEY. YOU SHOULD BE OFF EITHER DOING PHILANTHROPIC, OR YOU SHOULD
[01:47:23] DEFINITELY NOT BE WORKING TO
[01:47:25] MAKE MORE MONEY. BECAUSE IF A
[01:47:28] PERSON HAD $1 BILLION, JUST $1
[01:47:30] BILLION, AND GAVE YOU A DIME FOR
[01:47:33] EVERY HUNDRED DOLLARS HE HAD, THING IS JUST GIVE YOU $1
[01:47:36] MILLION, BECAUSE IT'S THE SAME. >> YOU KNOW, WHAT. >> $1 BILLION IS?
[01:47:40] >> YEAH. RON, DO YOU KNOW WHAT HOARDERS ARE?
[01:47:44] >> UH, YES. >> HOARDING IS A MENTAL ILLNESS.
[01:47:48] IT'S IT'S ACTUALLY IN THE DIAGNOSTIC AND STATISTICAL
[01:47:51] MANUAL OF THE AMERICAN PSYCHIATRIC ASSOCIATION. AND IT,
[01:47:55] THERE'S A, THERE'S A DEBATE ABOUT WHAT KIND OF MENTAL
[01:47:57] ILLNESS IT IS. I THINK IT'S A SUBSET OF OBSESSIVE COMPULSIVE
[01:48:01] DISORDER. BUT WHO KNOWS. BUT IT'S A MENTAL ILLNESS, I WOULD AGREE, AND I WOULD POSIT, AND I
[01:48:05] HAVE SAID THIS MANY TIMES, THAT
[01:48:10] MOST ALL OF OUR BILLIONAIRES, OR AT LEAST THE VAST MAJORITY OF BILLIONAIRES, I THINK THERE MIGHT BE SOME EXCEPTIONS TO THIS
[01:48:14] WITH PEOPLE LIKE BILL GATES AND WARREN BUFFETT, WHO ARE WHO ARE
[01:48:17] COMMITTING TO HAVE COMMITTED TO GIVE AWAY MOST OF THEIR
[01:48:20] FORTUNES, BUT THAT MOST OF OUR
[01:48:23] BILLIONAIRES ACTUALLY HAVE THAT MENTAL ILLNESS. AND THAT IS WHAT HAS LED THEM TO BE BILLIONAIRES.
[01:48:27] THERE'S JUST NEVER ENOUGH FOR. >> THEM.
[01:48:31] >> I THINK SO, BECAUSE, LIKE I SAY.
[01:48:32] >> I THINK THEY'RE MISERABLE. >> PEOPLE SOMEWHERE STUFF. LIKE
[01:48:36] THE GENTLEMAN BEFORE MENTIONED THAT DOLLY EASILY BEEN A
[01:48:40] BILLIONAIRE HAD SHE NOT BEEN A PHILANTHROPIC.
[01:48:43] >> YEAH, SHE MADE A HALF MILLION, A HALF $1 BILLION IN
[01:48:45] HER LIFE. AND SHE GAVE AWAY A
[01:48:48] WHOLE LOT OF IT. AND, UH, YEAH,
[01:48:50] ABSOLUTELY. RON. THANK YOU. THAT WAS A GREAT POINT. I APPRECIATE
[01:48:54] THE CALL. BOB, IN RALEIGH, NORTH
[01:48:55] CAROLINA. HEY, BOB, WHAT'S UP
[01:48:59] >> BEFORE, BUT I TOLD MATEO I WAS WHEN WE CALLED, I SAID, BOB, WHERE ARE YOU? AND I WAS CALLING
[01:49:04] BACK AND I THINK AT&T DECIDED TO DO THE FILTERING FOR ME. HOW'S THAT?
[01:49:07] >> SO WHAT'S ON YOUR MIND? >> HEY, REAL QUICK FOR DEAN.
[01:49:11] BECK CALLED YOU A FEW MINUTES AGO. IS BOB GOING TO GO OUT AND
[01:49:14] VOTE GOING COULD GO OUT TO VOTE. WILL GO OUT TO VOTE. IN FACT,
[01:49:17] YESTERDAY I WAS AT, UH, THE
[01:49:19] RULES REVIEW COMMITTEE FOR, UH,
[01:49:22] THE BOARD OF ELECTIONS, STATE BOARD OF ELECTIONS. AND THE
[01:49:25] RULES ARE TRYING TO PUT THROUGH.
[01:49:27] AND I SAID MY PIECE TO SAY NO.
[01:49:30] SO ANYWAY, I DID THAT. BUT THE
[01:49:31] REAL REASON I. SO ANYWAY, WE'RE, WE'RE ENGAGED. AND, UH, ALREADY
[01:49:35] SOME SHENANIGANS ARE COMING UP. IT LOOKS LIKE ONE OF THE
[01:49:38] REPUBLICAN LED BOARDS, BECAUSE THEY ALL KNOW 3 TO 2 IS TRYING
[01:49:41] TO HAVE A DEMOCRATIC MEMBER THROWN OFF. AND THAT'LL BE THE FIRST HEARING WILL BE SEPTEMBER
[01:49:45] 17th. SO I'LL KEEP YOU INFORMED ON. >> THAT. >> IN NORTH.
[01:49:49] >> CAROLINA. YES, IN NORTH CAROLINA, NO ONE KNOWS YET ABOUT
[01:49:51] TILLIS, BUT YOU HAVE MANY PEOPLE. I HAVE ASKED A NUMBER OF FOLKS, AND THEY'VE GOT THEIR
[01:49:55] EARS TO THE GROUND. SO I'LL LET YOU KNOW. WE FIND OUT WHERE HIS
[01:49:57] NEXT GIG IS GOING TO BE. BUT THE
[01:50:00] REAL REASON I CALLED WAS, UH, TWO THINGS. ONE IS FOR MEDICAL
[01:50:03] CARE. I THINK, UM. OH, GOD. UH,
[01:50:07] FOR, UH, SOCIAL SECURITY. WATCH. UH, ALEX LAWSON HIT IT. AND, BUT
[01:50:10] ALSO IN MEDICAL CARE IS HOW THE
[01:50:13] CONTINUITY OF CARE OF THE OLD DAYS. AND I THINK YOU REMEMBER,
[01:50:17] AND I DO, AND I'LL GIVE A QUICK
[01:50:18] STORY FROM MY FAMILY IN THAT,
[01:50:22] UH, YOUR FAMILY PHYSICIAN. I MEAN, PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE IT,
[01:50:24] BUT THAT FAMILY PHYSICIAN KNEW YOU THE BEST.
[01:50:26] >> OH, YEAH. AND THEY USED TO FOLLOW YOU THROUGHOUT YOUR LIFE.
[01:50:30] >> THERE YOU GO. AND THEN THEY WOULD HAVE PRIVILEGES IN THE
[01:50:32] HOSPITAL. SO NOW, ANYWAY, YOU DON'T HAVE THAT TODAY. BUT THAT
[01:50:36] IS NOT THAT ISN'T THE CASE TODAY. YOU HAVE A HOSPITALIST
[01:50:39] WHO SAW YOU THE FIRST TIME YOU CAME IN THE DOOR, YEAH. AND THAT
[01:50:41] WOULD BE JUST CONTINUING THAT, RIGHT. THERE WOULD BE A
[01:50:45] TREMENDOUS IMPROVEMENT. >> THAT'S AN INTERESTING POINT.
[01:50:46] I WAS, YOU KNOW, I'M FAMILIAR
[01:50:50] WITH WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, BUT I'D NEVER PUT TWO AND TWO TOGETHER LIKE THAT. BOB. THANK YOU. THAT WAS BRILLIANT. I
[01:50:53] APPRECIATE THE CALL AND AND KEEP US UP TO DATE ON HOW THE VOTING
[01:50:55] IS GOING IN NORTH CAROLINA. OKAY. WILL DO. THANKS A LOT.
[01:50:59] THANK YOU. 49 MINUTES PAST THE HOUR.
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[01:53:55] >> UH, OKAY, HERE'S MY FUN TO
[01:54:04] TALK ABOUT THE FOIBLES OF TRUMP AND ALL THIS OTHER STUFF. THE
[01:54:08] THING I REALLY WANT TO GET
[01:54:10] THROUGH IS WE HAVE TO COME UP
[01:54:15] WITH SOLUTIONS. >> UM.
[01:54:17] >> WE KNOW THE PROBLEMS. WE NEED
[01:54:21] TO SPEAK ABOUT THE SOLUTIONS,
[01:54:24] SUCH AS EXPANDING THE COURT PAYING DOWN THE DEBT.
[01:54:27] >> YEP.
[01:54:29] >> CODE OF ETHICS FOR THE COURT
[01:54:33] >> OH, SURE. YEAH, BUT EXPAND IT. YEAH. THAT'S THE ONLY WAY
[01:54:36] WE'RE GOING TO GET AROUND THAT. WE HAVE TO GET 13 JUSTICES. THEY
[01:54:40] HAVE TO BE LIBERAL. AND THEN WE
[01:54:45] CAN HAVE A A LEVEL PLAYING FIELD. BUT I WANT TO HEAR THE
[01:54:49] SOLUTIONS, THE SOLUTIONS FOR
[01:54:52] IMMIGRATION. MHM. I WANT TO HEAR.
[01:54:56] >> JAMES LANKFORD THE REPUBLICAN, THE REPUBLICAN FROM
[01:54:58] OKLAHOMA, ACTUALLY WROTE A ALONG WITH SEVERAL DEMOCRATS, BUT HE
[01:55:02] WAS THE LEAD AUTHOR, WROTE A COMPREHENSIVE IMMIGRATION BILL
[01:55:06] THAT WOULD HAVE PASSED THE
[01:55:08] SENATE. IT DID PASS THE HOUSE. AND DONALD OR NO, MAYBE IT
[01:55:12] DIDN'T PASS THE HOUSE. IT WAS KILLED. ANYHOW, IT WAS GOING TO
[01:55:15] PASS BOTH BODIES, AND DONALD
[01:55:17] TRUMP. AND THIS WAS IN 2024, WHEN TRUMP WAS A CANDIDATE. RIGHT? THIS WAS DURING THE
[01:55:21] DURING THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION. AND DONALD TRUMP CAME OUT AND
[01:55:25] SAID TO THE REPUBLICANS, DO NOT VOTE FOR THAT BILL, BECAUSE I
[01:55:27] DON'T WANT IMMIGRATION REFORM. I WANT TO GO AFTER THE BROWN
[01:55:30] PEOPLE. I DON'T WANT TO. I DON'T WANT TO WORK THINGS OUT WITH THEM. I JUST WANT TO, YOU
[01:55:34] KNOW, TORTURE THEM. AND, UH, AND
[01:55:37] SO THE REPUBLICANS DID. SO WE HAD, WE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO
[01:55:40] FIX THIS, STEVE. AND, AND TRUMP TOOK IT DOWN.
[01:55:43] >> BECAUSE HE THOUGHT IT WOULD
[01:55:46] BE A, THE REPUBLICANS HAD AN
[01:55:49] OPPORTUNITY TO GET RID OF THIS
[01:55:51] GUY BEFORE HE DID ALL THIS
[01:55:54] DAMAGE. OH, YEAH. REPUBLICANS HAD THE OPPORTUNITY.
[01:55:57] >> THEY COULD HAVE. THEY COULD HAVE CONVICTED HIM. YEAH. IN THE SENATE TWICE. YEAH. YOU'RE
[01:56:01] ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. AND, AND I, I SUSPECT THAT OPPORTUNITY IS
[01:56:04] GOING TO COME AROUND AGAIN. STEVE. THANK YOU. WELL, SAID. BOB, IN BURLINGTON, VERMONT,
[01:56:08] HEY, BOB. WHAT'S UP?
[01:56:12] >> HEY, TOM. UH, I'M CRANKY. I
[01:56:14] AM CRANKY ABOUT THE SERIOUS
[01:56:16] THING. ALTHOUGH ELON MUSK GAVE YOU THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE ON,
[01:56:20] UH, TUNE AT TESLA'S, AND I'M
[01:56:25] CRANKY BECAUSE I WATCHED WEST
[01:56:27] WING AGAIN, AND IT'S, IT'S
[01:56:29] DEPRESSING THE NUMBER OF THINGS
[01:56:33] WE'RE STILL TALKING ABOUT THAT, THAT SHOW. >> AND THAT WAS IN THE.
[01:56:36] >> 90s, WASN'T. YEAH, YEAH JUST
[01:56:43] AMAZING. BUT, UH, ONE OF THE BREAKS YOU'RE TAKING, YOU
[01:56:47] MENTIONED ABOUT, UH, PISTOL PETE
[01:56:50] HAVING A PRIVATE FORCE OF SOMETHING. UH, THE PROBLEM THAT
[01:56:53] BOTHERS ME IS EVERYBODY, YOU KNOW, LEGISLATIVE EXPERIENCE
[01:56:57] COMING OUT, PEOPLE SAY, PASS A
[01:56:59] LAW ABOUT THIS, PASS A LAW ABOUT
[01:57:02] THAT. I THINK, UH MECHANISM THAT
[01:57:06] GETS LAWS ENFORCED DOESN'T EXIST
[01:57:09] FOR TWO BRANCHES OF GOVERNMENT.
[01:57:11] AND I ACTUALLY CAME UP THE OTHER
[01:57:15] DAY THINKING THAT MAYBE THE SUPREME COURT IS DURING THE
[01:57:16] TRUMP, UH, CONSTITUTIONAL
[01:57:21] CRISIS, WHERE HE BASICALLY SAYS,
[01:57:23] YOU KNOW, GO TAKE A HIKE. YEAH.
[01:57:25] AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S, THERE'S GOT
[01:57:28] TO BE SOME REASON BECAUSE LOGIC
[01:57:31] DOES NOT PREVAIL THERE. >> THERE ARE ACTUALLY
[01:57:35] CONSERVATIVE COMMENTATORS WHO ARE CITING ANDREW JACKSON AS PRECEDENT AND SAYING, AND
[01:57:37] ABRAHAM LINCOLN, BOTH OF THEM IGNORED SUPREME COURT DECISIONS. LINCOLN IGNORED DRED SCOTT. UM,
[01:57:41] YOU KNOW, ANDREW JACKSON IGNORED THE TRAIL OF TEARS AND THE AND
[01:57:45] THE SECOND NATIONAL BANK. AND, AND THEY'RE SAYING THAT TRUMP
[01:57:48] SHOULD JUST START IGNORING THE SUPREME COURT AND JUST DOING WHATEVER HE WANTS. THEY CAN'T
[01:57:51] STOP HIM. THEY DON'T THEY DON'T COMMAND AN ARMY. THEY
[01:57:54] HAVE NO CONTROL OVER MONEY. AND THE REPUBLICANS IN CONGRESS ARE
[01:57:58] COMPLETELY SERVILE. SO. >> YEAH, WELL, THAT'S, I MEAN,
[01:58:02] THE CONSTITUTION WAS PUT TOGETHER BY PEOPLE WHO EXPECTED
[01:58:05] THERE'D BE, UH, MEN OF GOOD
[01:58:08] FAITH. YEAH. AND I THINK THAT'S
[01:58:10] A DIMINISHING, UH, RESOURCE THESE DAYS.
[01:58:13] >> WELL, AND THAT'S THE TRAGEDY,
[01:58:15] IS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE, WE HAVE
[01:58:18] HISTORICALLY, I REALIZE WE'VE
[01:58:19] HAD A LOT OF REALLY SKEEZY POLITICIANS AND POLITICIANS HAVE
[01:58:23] GOTTEN A BAD RAP OVER THE YEARS. AND THERE'S, THERE'S SOME REALLY GOOD ONES. AND THERE'S SOME,
[01:58:27] OBVIOUSLY SOME REALLY BAD ONES,
[01:58:29] BUT, YOU KNOW, IT'S BEEN A LONG,
[01:58:34] IT'S, I WOULD SAY IT'S BEEN SINCE THE CIVIL WAR ERA THAT WE HAVE HAD POLITICIANS WHO ARE
[01:58:37] JUST SAYING, YOU KNOW, SCREW THE LAW. WE DON'T CARE ABOUT
[01:58:39] CONVENTIONS, WE DON'T CARE ABOUT NORMS, WE DON'T CARE ABOUT
[01:58:42] MORALITY. WE'RE HAPPY TO DO
[01:58:44] WHATEVER THIS RAPIST, CONVICTED,
[01:58:47] FRAUDSTER, CONVICTED CRIMINAL TELLS US TO DO. UM, IT'S.
[01:58:51] >> PUT THINGS IN MY POCKET. >> YEAH, EXACTLY. AS LONG, AS LONG AS, YOU KNOW, HE PUTS
[01:58:55] THINGS IN HIS POCKET, AND HE SHARES IT WITH THE REST OF US. AND ACTUALLY, ONE OF THE THINGS
[01:58:58] THAT REPUBLICANS ARE OFF ABOUT RIGHT NOW IS THAT TRUMP HAS
[01:59:01] RAISED HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS FOR HIS SUPER PAC. AND IT'S A LEADERSHIP PAC, WHICH
[01:59:05] MEANS HE CAN TAKE THAT MONEY WITH HIM AFTER HE LEAVES OFFICE.
[01:59:10] AND HE THE ONLY AMOUNT OF IT THAT HE'S SPENT WAS $800,000 TO
[01:59:12] SUPPORT DARLINE GRAHAM. SO, UH,
[01:59:14] YOU KNOW, THEY'RE REALLY UPSET THAT HE'S NOT PUTTING MONEY INTO THESE RACES. LIKE, YOU
[01:59:18] KNOW, FOR, FOR KEN PAXTON AND WHATNOT. ANYHOW, BOB, THANKS FOR
[01:59:21] THE CALL. IN FACT, HE WENT DOWN TO TEXAS AND DID MORE
[01:59:24] FUNDRAISING. WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK.
[01:59:28] >> YOU'RE LISTENING.
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[02:01:45] SATURDAYS ON C-SPAN 2. EXPLORING THE PEOPLE AND EVENTS THAT TELL
[02:01:49] THE AMERICAN STORY. AT 1:30 P.M. EASTERN, WE'LL TAKE YOU ON A TOUR OF THE IOWA STATE FAIR FOR
[02:01:53] A LOOK AT THE ANNUAL CELEBRATIONS. FAMOUS LANDMARKS,
[02:01:56] STORIES FROM THE FAIR'S PAST, AND AN UP CLOSE ENCOUNTER WITH. >> THERE'S AN ICE THUG BY THE NAME OF CHRISTIAN CASTRO, WHO
[02:02:00] WAS UP IN MINNEAPOLIS AS PART OF
[02:02:03] OPERATION METRO SURGE, WHERE THEY KILLED RENEE GOOD, AND THEY
[02:02:07] KILLED ALEX PRETTI, AND THEY WOUNDED A BUNCH OF PEOPLE. AND, YOU KNOW, NOW THEY'RE TRYING TO
[02:02:10] PROSECUTE PEOPLE FOR KEEPING TRACK OF THEM. AND HE WAS
[02:02:14] CHASING A GUY DOWN, AND THE GUY RAN INTO HIS HOUSE, AND HE SHOT
[02:02:18] THROUGH THE FRONT DOOR AND SHOT
[02:02:19] THIS GUY IN THE LEG. AND THE
[02:02:24] BULLET LODGED IN HIS CHILD'S BEDROOM, WHICH IS AGAINST THE
[02:02:27] LAW. LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO SHOOT
[02:02:31] THROUGH DOORS. YOU KNOW, JUST YOU DON'T DO IT. AND THEN HE
[02:02:35] FLED. HE WAS ACTUALLY ICE HELPED HIM. THEY TRANSPORTED HIM DOWN
[02:02:38] TO TEXAS. SO THE GOVERNOR OF
[02:02:41] MINNESOTA ISSUED AN EXTRADITION
[02:02:44] ORDER. NOW, THERE IS A CLAUSE, A
[02:02:48] SENTENCE IN THE CONSTITUTION
[02:02:51] THAT SAYS, IF ANY STATE HAS A
[02:02:55] FUGITIVE FROM THAT STATE, THE
[02:02:56] STATE TO WHICH THEY GO MUST,
[02:03:01] MUST GIVE THAT ORIGINAL STATE
[02:03:03] THE, THE, THE, THE, THE STATE THAT THEY FLED MUST SEND THAT
[02:03:07] PERSON BACK TO THEM. SO THIS GUY
[02:03:12] GOES DOWN TO TEXAS AND, UH, YOU
[02:03:16] KNOW, THE GOVERNOR OF MINNESOTA,
[02:03:19] UH, YOU KNOW, TIM WALZ SAYS TO
[02:03:23] THE GOVERNOR OF TEXAS, GREG
[02:03:26] ABBOTT, SEND HIM UP HERE,
[02:03:27] HERE'S AN EXTRADITION ORDER.
[02:03:31] SEND HIM UP HERE. AND GREG ABBOTT SAYS, WELL, LET ME THINK ABOUT THIS. NOW, HERE'S THE
[02:03:34] DEAL. YOU CAN ONLY HOLD SOMEBODY
[02:03:36] FOR IMMIGRATION IN TEXAS. AND I'M NOT SURE IF THIS TEXAS LAW
[02:03:40] OR FEDERAL LAW. I'M ASSUMING IT'S TEXAS LAW. YOU CAN ONLY
[02:03:43] HOLD THEM FOR 60 DAYS. AND IF
[02:03:46] YOU DON'T, IF THEY'RE NOT EXTRADITED BY THE END OF THE 60
[02:03:48] DAYS, THEY GET TO WALK. AND SO
[02:03:51] GREG ABBOTT DID, WAS INSTEAD OF SAYING YES OR NO, BECAUSE HE
[02:03:54] CAN'T SAY NO, THE CONSTITUTION
[02:03:56] REQUIRES HIM TO SEND THIS GUY.
[02:03:59] HE SAID, WELL, LET ME THINK
[02:04:01] ABOUT IT FOR A LITTLE MORE THAN 60 DAYS. THE GUY'S NAME IS
[02:04:05] CHRISTIAN CASTRO. HE'S APPARENTLY BILINGUAL. HE'S
[02:04:08] BEEN. WHILE HE WAS IN JAIL, HE HAS BEEN TALKING TO HIS
[02:04:11] GIRLFRIEND, WHO IS IN MEXICO,
[02:04:13] ABOUT BUYING A HOUSE IN MEXICO
[02:04:17] AND RETIRING TO MEXICO. SO THIS
[02:04:19] GUY'S A FLIGHT RISK. HE'S A
[02:04:22] CRIMINAL OR AN ACCUSED CRIMINAL
[02:04:27] AND HE JUST GOT LET GO YESTERDAY. THE 60 DAYS EXPIRED,
[02:04:30] AND GREG ABBOTT STILL HADN'T DONE ANYTHING. AND IT WENT
[02:04:33] BEFORE A FEDERAL JUDGE. AND THE FEDERAL JUDGE WAS LIKE, YOU
[02:04:37] KNOW, YEAH, YOU SHOULD HAVE SENT HIM TO MINNESOTA, BUT YOU DIDN'T. AND I CAN'T, YOU KNOW,
[02:04:40] THIS, THIS KIND OF WATER UNDER THE BRIDGE. AND, YOU KNOW, YEAH,
[02:04:44] YOU DO HAVE TO RELEASE HIM AFTER, YOU KNOW, THIS IS JUST
[02:04:46] WHAT THE LAW SAYS. AND, I MEAN,
[02:04:49] YOU COULD ARGUE THAT THE JUDGE IGNORED THE CONSTITUTION. I
[02:04:51] WOULD ARGUE THAT. BUT, UM, YOU
[02:04:54] KNOW, WITHOUT KNOWING ALL THE
[02:04:56] NUANCES OF IT, BUT, UH, THIS GUY
[02:04:59] IS, IN FACT, THE GOVERNOR SAID IN A RECENT COURT FILING THAT
[02:05:03] HIS OFFICE IS STILL DETERMINING THE ANSWER TO THE QUESTION OF
[02:05:06] WHETHER HE SHOULD BE EXTRADITED
[02:05:11] IT'S WILD STUFF. SO HERE YOU'VE GOT ICE. YOU'VE GOT AN ICE
[02:05:13] CRIMINAL, ALLEGED CRIMINAL WHO
[02:05:17] COMMITTED A CRIME IN MINNESOTA,
[02:05:20] FLED TO TEXAS, AND TEXAS IS PROTECTING THIS GUY. AND HE GOT
[02:05:24] JUST GOT LET LOOSE. AND IT SURE DOES LOOK LIKE HE'S GOING TO RUN
[02:05:28] TO MEXICO TO AVOID PROSECUTION
[02:05:32] AND THAT HE'S GOT THIS THIS, THIS THING. IN FACT, MINNESOTA
[02:05:35] OFFICIAL. THIS IS FROM THE WASHINGTON POST, QUOTING FROM
[02:05:40] THE WASHINGTON POST. MINNESOTA
[02:05:42] OFFICIALS HAVE EXPRESSED CONCERN THAT CASTRO WILL FLEE TO MEXICO
[02:05:45] TO EVADE THE JUSTICE SYSTEM. CASTRO MADE NUMEROUS CALLS FROM
[02:05:49] JAIL TO A WOMAN IN MEXICO,
[02:05:50] ACCORDING TO STATE PROSECUTORS. THE PAIR ARE IN A ROMANTIC
[02:05:54] RELATIONSHIP, THE INVESTIGATOR STATED, AND CASTRO EXPRESSED AN
[02:05:58] INTEREST IN MARRYING HER ONCE HE
[02:05:59] IS RELEASED. HE ALSO DESCRIBED WANTING TO BUY A HOUSE IN MEXICO
[02:06:03] TO RETIRE. THERE AND HE'S
[02:06:06] CHARGED WITH SHOOTING AND
[02:06:08] INJURING A GUY NAMED JULIO CESAR
[02:06:11] SOSA-CELIS, WHO WAS A VENEZUELAN
[02:06:13] IMMIGRANT AND, UH, GREG ABBOTT
[02:06:19] SAYS HE'S NOT GOING TO RESPOND UNTIL THIS THIS IS WHERE IT GETS
[02:06:22] REALLY RICH. GREG ABBOTT SAYS,
[02:06:24] I'M NOT GOING TO SEND THIS GUY
[02:06:28] BACK TO MINNESOTA UNTIL YOU CLEAN UP YOUR PROBLEM OF BLACK
[02:06:31] PEOPLE COMMITTING MEDICAID FRAUD IN MINNESOTA, WHICH IS A
[02:06:35] COMPLETELY MADE UP THING. AS THE POLITIC CHICKS WERE TALKING
[02:06:38] ABOUT ON THIS PROGRAM A COUPLE
[02:06:40] DAYS AGO YES, THERE WAS MEDICAID
[02:06:44] FRAUD IN MINNESOTA. IT WAS BECAUSE WHEN THE REPUBLICANS
[02:06:46] CONTROLLED THE LEGISLATURE, THEY
[02:06:48] CHANGED THE RULES SO THAT MEDICAID FRAUD COULD ACTUALLY
[02:06:51] HAPPEN. AND, YOU KNOW, WALTZ
[02:06:54] CAME IN AND TRIED TO FIX IT. AND IN FACT, DID FIX IT. BUT NOW,
[02:06:58] NOW YOU'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, THE
[02:06:59] FEDS GOING, OH, IT'S THOSE IT'S THOSE SOMALI IMMIGRANTS. WELL,
[02:07:03] THE SOMALI, YES. THERE WAS A SOMALI IMMIGRANT WHO WAS
[02:07:06] INVOLVED IN A FRAUD, BUT THERE WAS A WHOLE BUNCH OF WHITE
[02:07:09] PEOPLE COMMITTING FRAUD, TOO. AND LIKE I SAID, THEY'VE GOT
[02:07:12] THAT FIXED. BUT ANYHOW, GREG ABBOTT SAYS, I WILL NOT RESPOND
[02:07:16] UNTIL MINNESOTA PROSECUTORS ACKNOWLEDGE THEIR FAULT. THAT'S
[02:07:20] HIS EXACT PHRASE IN INCIDENTS OF FRAUD INVOLVING THE DEMOCRATIC
[02:07:24] LED STATES, PUBLIC SERVICES STANFORD SANFORD LEVINSON,
[02:07:27] WHO'S A PROFESSOR AT THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS LAW SCHOOL
[02:07:30] IN AUSTIN. HE SAYS, THAT'S LIKE SAYING, I'M NOT GOING TO
[02:07:34] EXTRADITE ANYONE TO MAINE UNTIL
[02:07:35] THEY STOP KILLING INNOCENT
[02:07:38] LOBSTERS. HEH, SO KEEP AN EYE ON
[02:07:45] THIS ONE. KEEP AN EYE ON IT.
[02:07:48] I'LL BE RIGHT BACK.
[02:07:52] >> [MUSIC]
[02:07:59] >> THIS IS THE THOM HARTMANN PROGRAM >> [MUSIC]. >> HEY, WELCOME. >> BACK TO THE THIRD HOUR OF ANYTHING GOES WEEKEND HERE ON
[02:08:03] THE THOM HARTMANN PROGRAM. AFTER
[02:08:05] DAYS OF BASHING TRUMP MEDIA
[02:08:07] REPORTS, JELLY ROLL TEARS UP AS
[02:08:10] HIS AS HE PLEADS TO A DIVIDED AMERICA. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAUGHT THIS. THIS WAS JIMMY
[02:08:14] KIMMEL'S SHOW LAST NIGHT, AND IT WAS HIS LAST NIGHT GUEST
[02:08:18] HOSTING JELLY ROLL, THE COUNTRY
[02:08:21] WESTERN STAR, WHO IS, UH,
[02:08:23] ACTUALLY JUST A REALLY SWEET AND
[02:08:27] REALLY SMART GUY. AND, YOU KNOW, HE HAD MET TRUMP A YEAR OR SO AGO, WENT TO THE WHITE HOUSE,
[02:08:30] SHOOK HIS HAND. HE'S A COUNTRY WESTERN GUY. EVERYBODY ASSUMED
[02:08:34] HE WAS A RIGHT WINGER BECAUSE COUNTRY WESTERN, ALTHOUGH DOLLY
[02:08:37] PARTON WAS A COUNTRY WESTERN.
[02:08:41] UM, BUT ANYHOW, HE, UH, HE'S
[02:08:43] BEEN MAKING JOKES ABOUT TRUMP. AND SO MAGA IS ALL OFF AT HIM.
[02:08:47] AND, AND SO HE, AND HE, AND HE
[02:08:50] TALKED ABOUT HOW HE LIKED
[02:08:52] WATCHING THAT, UH, MFA FIGHT OR WHATEVER IT IS, YOU KNOW, ON THE
[02:08:55] WHITE HOUSE LAWN, BECAUSE HE
[02:08:59] FOLLOWS THAT SPORT. SO ANYHOW, HE SAYS, UH, JUST BECAUSE I
[02:09:02] WATCHED A FIGHT ON TV DOESN'T MEAN I SUPPORT EVERYTHING THIS
[02:09:06] ADMINISTRATION DOES. JUST LIKE HOSTING JIMMY KIMMEL SHOW, DOESN'T MEAN I HAVE ALL OF JIMMY KIMMEL'S POLITICS. SURE,
[02:09:09] I LEAN LEFT ON SOME THINGS, BUT LIKE MOST FOLKS, I'M PRETTY DOWN THE MIDDLE. I'M A CHRISTIAN,
[02:09:13] I'M A COUNTRY MUSIC SINGER, I'M A FARMER, I'M A BOW HUNTER. AND MOST OF THE THINGS I
[02:09:17] EAT, I PREFER TO GET WITH A STICK AND A STRING. THAT'S THE
[02:09:21] TRUTH. SO HE'S, YOU KNOW, HE STARTS OUT BY TALKING ABOUT HOW,
[02:09:24] YOU KNOW, HE'S, HE'S NOT THE
[02:09:26] CARICATURE ON EITHER THE RIGHT OR THE LEFT, WHICH I THINK IS
[02:09:29] TRUE OF MOST OF US. I CONSIDER
[02:09:32] MYSELF A CHRISTIAN, FOR EXAMPLE.
[02:09:35] AND BUT THEN HE GOES INTO THIS.
[02:09:39] HE STARTED TALKING ABOUT HIS
[02:09:42] FATHER AND HOW, UH, HIS FATHER
[02:09:45] BASICALLY, HE SAYS, MY DADDY TOLD ME, IT IS NEVER TOO LATE TO
[02:09:48] DO THE RIGHT THING. SO NOW I'M GOING TO DO THE RIGHT THING,
[02:09:51] BECAUSE HUMAN DIGNITY ISN'T REPUBLICAN OR DEMOCRATIC,
[02:09:55] COMPASSION ISN'T LEFT WING, AND MERCY ISN'T RIGHT WING. PAIN
[02:09:58] AND HEALING KNOWS NO PARTIZANSHIP HURTING HEARTS ARE MORE IMPORTANT THAN POLL
[02:10:02] NUMBERS, AND THERE ARE NO BOUNDARIES OR BORDERS FOR BROKEN
[02:10:05] FAMILIES. AND HE SAID MY FATHER
[02:10:08] WOULD HAVE BEEN DISAPPOINTED HAD I DONE ANYTHING OTHER THAN THAT. HE'S TALKING ABOUT SHAKING
[02:10:12] TRUMP'S HAND AND IT JUST IT
[02:10:14] JUST REMINDED ME, I REMEMBER WHEN MY FATHER DIED, MY DAD WAS
[02:10:18] A REPUBLICAN HIS WHOLE LIFE, A REPUBLICAN ACTIVIST. HE HATED
[02:10:22] FRANKLIN ROOSEVELT. MY
[02:10:24] GRANDFATHER, HIS FATHER WAS A
[02:10:27] HARDCORE FDR DEMOCRAT. SO I
[02:10:30] THINK MY DAD REBELLED. YOU KNOW,
[02:10:32] BUT, UH, BUT MY DAD WAS A GOOD
[02:10:35] MAN AND A DECENT PERSON. AND I LOVED MY FATHER. WE, WE, YOU
[02:10:38] KNOW, WE HAD OUR CONFLICTS. AND,
[02:10:42] BUT MOST, THE VAST MAJORITY OF OUR LIFE, YOU KNOW, OUTSIDE OF
[02:10:45] JUST LITERALLY A FEW MONTHS,
[02:10:46] WHEN I TURNED 16, UM, HE WAS
[02:10:50] ALWAYS VERY SUPPORTIVE OF ME. AND I REMEMBER WHEN HE WAS
[02:10:53] DYING, WE WERE AT HIS HOME IN LANSING. HE DIED IN HIS LIVING
[02:10:57] ROOM, UM, ON A, ON A COT. IT WAS
[02:11:00] HOSPICE CARE, YOU KNOW AND, UM,
[02:11:03] AS HE WAS DYING, I WAS SITTING THERE WITH MY THREE BROTHERS AND
[02:11:07] A COUPLE OF OUR WIVES. AND, AND, UH, MY MOM WAS ACTUALLY ASLEEP
[02:11:10] WHEN THIS HAPPENED. AND I SAT
[02:11:13] THERE WITH MY HAND ON HIS SHOULDER. AND I LOOKED ACROSS
[02:11:17] HIM AND THERE ON THE WALL, RIGHT
[02:11:20] ON THE OPPOSITE HIM, OPPOSITE ME, WERE HIS TWO FAVORITE PICTURES THAT HE HAD PINNED UP
[02:11:24] ON THE WALL. UM, ONE WAS GEORGE
[02:11:27] W BUSH ON THE USS ABRAHAM LINCOLN, DECLARING, MISSION
[02:11:31] ACCOMPLISHED IN IRAQ. AND THE OTHER WAS ME SHAKING HANDS WITH
[02:11:34] POPE JOHN PAUL THE SECOND, BECAUSE THE POPE HAD INVITED ME
[02:11:37] FOR A PRIVATE AUDIENCE. AND LOUISE AND I WENT OVER AND, IN
[02:11:40] FACT, THE POPE MET WITH LOUISE TO. SHOOK HER HAND, WHICH WE
[02:11:44] WERE TOLD WOULD NEVER HAPPEN.
[02:11:49] AND IT JUST, IT JUST REMINDED ME. AND, YOU KNOW, MY DAD AND I HAD COMPLETELY DIFFERENT
[02:11:53] POLITICS, LITERALLY, TO THE DAY HE DIED. BUT WE ALWAYS GOT
[02:11:56] ALONG. WE ALWAYS LOVED EACH OTHER. AND THE POINT THAT
[02:12:00] JELLYROLL MADE LAST NIGHT, THAT REALLY GOT ME, HE SAID, YOU
[02:12:03] KNOW, HE WAS TALKING ABOUT HOW HIS FATHER AND HIS FATHER'S
[02:12:06] BROTHER, HIS UNCLE, WELL, HIS
[02:12:10] FATHER WAS A DEMOCRAT, AND HIS UNCLE WAS A REPUBLICAN. AND THEY
[02:12:12] WERE BOTH, YOU KNOW, VERY, VERY OUTSPOKEN ABOUT THEIR POLITICAL
[02:12:16] BELIEFS. AND HE ONCE ASKED, ASKED HIS DAD, YOU KNOW, HOW DO YOU GUYS GET ALONG WHEN YOU'RE
[02:12:20] SO DIFFERENT POLITICALLY? AND HIS DAD SAID, WELL, THERE'S 100
[02:12:23] THINGS THAT WE AGREE ON.
[02:12:24] THERE'S ONLY A COUPLE THAT WE
[02:12:28] DISAGREE ON, WHICH ARE THE POLITICS. YOU KNOW, WE LOVE OUR FAMILIES. WE WE CARE ABOUT EACH
[02:12:32] OTHER. WE, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN GO
[02:12:35] THROUGH THE LIST. AND IT JUST RESONATED WITH ME. AND I WANTED
[02:12:38] TO SHARE THAT WITH YOU. AND IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN IT, IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN THAT MONOLOGUE,
[02:12:42] IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, 15 MINUTES. IT'S ON YOUTUBE. YOU
[02:12:46] CAN FIND IT REAL EASY. UM, IT'S SUCH A TOUCHING MOMENT, YOU KNOW, HE TEARED UP A COUPLE OF
[02:12:49] TIMES. HE DIDN'T START SOBBING, BUT HE HAD TEARS RUNNING DOWN
[02:12:53] HIS FACE AS HE WAS TALKING ABOUT
[02:12:56] HIS FATHER. AND HIS FATHER DIED
[02:12:59] FAIRLY RECENTLY, JUST, I THINK,
[02:13:01] IN 2019, HE SAID, MY FATHER DIED IN 2006. IT'S A LITTLE MORE
[02:13:05] DISTANT FOR ME. 20 YEARS AGO. SO
[02:13:09] ANYWAY, THERE'S THAT. THE OTHER STORY I WANT TO SHARE WITH YOU
[02:13:12] IS THAT, YOU KNOW, DONALD TRUMP
[02:13:13] JUST GOT AUTHORIZED TO HAVE A
[02:13:17] BANK. WHAT COULD POSSIBLY GO WRONG? WELL, IT GETS EVEN
[02:13:20] WEIRDER. THE, THE BANK, THE
[02:13:23] FEDERALLY AUTHORIZED BANK THAT
[02:13:26] DONALD TRUMP IS GOING TO HAVE
[02:13:29] THAT WILL ALLOW HIM TO ISSUE
[02:13:32] CRYPTO AS A CURRENCY BACKED UP
[02:13:34] BY U.S. DOLLARS. THAT BANK IS
[02:13:41] 49% OWNED BY THE SPY CHIEF FOR
[02:13:44] ABU DHABI, FOR THE UNITED ARAB
[02:13:47] EMIRATES. THE SPY CHIEF HIMSELF,
[02:13:50] PERSONALLY, HE'S A BILLIONAIRE.
[02:13:51] HE'S GOT A HE OVERSEES A $1.3
[02:13:55] TRILLION EMPIRE. HE GAVE DONALD
[02:14:00] TRUMP A HALF $1 BILLION. THAT
[02:14:01] ALL WENT RIGHT INTO DONALD
[02:14:06] TRUMP'S POCKET. AND WAS USED TO TO FUND THIS THING IN THE
[02:14:09] BEGINNING. AND $500 MILLION
[02:14:12] INVESTMENT IN WORLD LIBERTY
[02:14:14] FINANCIAL IN EXCHANGE FOR A 49%
[02:14:16] STAKE IN THE COMPANY I'M TRYING
[02:14:19] TO WONDER. I'M THINKING. GIVEN
[02:14:26] ALL THE REPUBLICAN HYSTERIA ABOUT HUNTER BIDEN TAKING $1 MILLION A YEAR FOR FIVE YEARS
[02:14:30] FROM A GAS COMPANY IN UKRAINE,
[02:14:33] BURISMA, AND HOW THAT WAS SO CORRUPT. AND JOE BIDEN SHOULD
[02:14:36] HAVE BEEN IMPEACHED FOR THAT. THERE WAS MULTIPLE IMPEACHMENT
[02:14:40] RESOLUTIONS THAT REPUBLICANS PUT FORWARD BECAUSE OF WHAT HIS SON
[02:14:44] DID. AND BY THE WAY, THAT WAS
[02:14:45] BACK WHEN HE WAS VICE PRESIDENT.
[02:14:50] THEY WERE SO, YOU KNOW, SELF-RIGHTEOUS ABOUT THIS. OH,
[02:14:53] MY GOD, THE CORRUPTION. LOOK AT
[02:14:54] THAT. HE TOOK $5 MILLION. HERE
[02:14:58] IS A SPY CHIEF FOR A FOREIGN COUNTRY THAT HAS A MUTUAL
[02:15:02] DEFENSE TREATY WITH CHINA, THAT
[02:15:07] DOES BUSINESS WITH RUSSIA OWNING HALF OF THE 49% OF THE BANK THAT
[02:15:11] THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES STARTED AFTER HE BECAME
[02:15:14] PRESIDENT I MEAN, WHAT THE HELL
[02:15:17] IS UP WITH THIS? AND WHY AREN'T
[02:15:22] WE HEARING MORE ABOUT IT? I MEAN, THIS IS IN THE WALL STREET
[02:15:26] JOURNAL, RIGHT? YESTERDAY'S WALL
[02:15:26] STREET JOURNAL, THE ABU DHABI
[02:15:30] ROYAL, SOMETIMES REFERRED TO AS THE SPY SHEIK, IS A MAJOR SHAREHOLDER BACKING A NEW U.S.
[02:15:34] BANK. THE TRUMP FAMILY'S
[02:15:36] CRYPTOCURRENCY VENTURE IS PREPARING TO LAUNCH SHEIKH TOM
[02:15:39] HOMAN BIN ZAYED AL NAHYAN AND CO-INVESTORS ARE BEHIND AN
[02:15:43] ENTITY THAT OWNS THE LARGEST, A 49%, IN THE HOLDING COMPANY, THE
[02:15:46] WORLD LIBERTY FINANCIAL, BLAH DE
[02:15:48] BLAH DE BLAH. THE SHEIKH LAST YEAR BACKED A $500 MILLION
[02:15:52] INVESTMENT INTO WORLD LIBERTY FINANCIAL IN EXCHANGE FOR 49%.
[02:15:55] TAHOUN SERVES AS THE UAE'S NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISOR AND
[02:15:58] HIS BROTHER TO THE COUNTRY'S
[02:16:01] PRESIDENT. NEPOTISM MUCH HE OVERSEES MORE THAN A $1.3
[02:16:05] TRILLION EMPIRE, FUNDED BY HIS
[02:16:07] PERSONAL FORTUNE. OUR PRESIDENT
[02:16:13] IS FOR SALE. OUR COUNTRY IS FOR
[02:16:17] SALE, AND DONALD TRUMP IS SITTING AROUND CHANGING THE NAME
[02:16:20] OF LAKE ONTARIO. I MEAN, IT'S
[02:16:24] JUST SO FRIGGIN WEIRD. AND WHAT'S SO ASTONISHINGLY WEIRD
[02:16:27] ABOUT. IT IS THAT REPUBLICANS
[02:16:30] AREN'T OBJECTING TO THIS. REPUBLICANS AREN'T TALKING
[02:16:34] ABOUT THE FACT THAT ABOUT A QUARTER, MAYBE AS MUCH AS A
[02:16:36] THIRD OF THE ENTIRE NATIONAL
[02:16:38] DEBT, HAS BEEN RUN UP BY ONE
[02:16:41] PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP, THAT THAT THIS GUY WAS CONVICTED OF
[02:16:45] FRAUD. AND THE ONLY REASON HE DIDN'T GO TO JAIL IS BECAUSE HE
[02:16:48] GOT ELECTED PRESIDENT. WHERE'S
[02:16:52] THE GOP? >> THIS IS THE THOM HARTMANN PROGRAM. >> WHERE ARE.
[02:16:56] >> THESE GREAT MORALISTS ANYHOW? THAT'S MY RANT. WHAT'S ON YOUR
[02:16:59] MIND? I'LL PICK UP YOUR CALLS
[02:17:01] AFTER THE BREAK
[02:17:06] >> [MUSIC] [MUSIC]
[02:17:18] >> AND WELCOME BACK. AND LET'S SEE HERE, STEVE IN PHOENIX,
[02:17:22] ARIZONA. HEY, STEVE, WHAT'S ON
[02:17:24] YOUR MIND? HOW'S THE HEAT THERE? >> OH, CHRIST
[02:17:28] >> THAT BAD, HUH >> WE WERE OVER IN LA LAST WEEK,
[02:17:31] AND IT WAS A LITTLE BETTER OVER THERE. BUT, YOU KNOW, TRY AND BE
[02:17:34] DOWN BY THE BEACH AND STUFF, BUT IT'S IT'S INSANE. I CAN'T WAIT
[02:17:37] TILL WE GO BACK TO WISCONSIN IN THE LATE FALL. IN NOVEMBER,
[02:17:41] BECAUSE, UH, WE GET A JUMP ON FALL ON HERE. YOU KNOW, BY THE TIME WE COME BACK, IT'S A
[02:17:45] LITTLE BETTER. >> BUT WAIT A MINUTE, YOU DO IT. YOU DO THE OPPOSITE OF MOST PEOPLE. YOU SPEND THE SUMMER IN
[02:17:48] ARIZONA AND THE WINTERS IN, IN WISCONSIN.
[02:17:51] >> NO, NO, NO, WE'RE HERE FULL TIME. OH, WE'RE FULL TIME.
[02:17:54] WE'VE BEEN HERE SINCE 88. BUT, UM, WE GO OVER TO LA ONCE OR
[02:17:58] TWICE IN THE SUMMER FOR A WEEK
[02:18:01] AND BACK TO MADISON AND KENOSHA AND ROSEMONT, ILLINOIS, FOR
[02:18:05] ABOUT A WEEK IN THE NOVEMBER TO GET, YOU. >> KNOW, YEAH, I UNDERSTAND YOU GUYS ARE GETTING REALLY WHACKED,
[02:18:09] BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT YOU CALLED ABOUT. WHAT'S ON YOUR MIND.
[02:18:12] >> NO, NO. GOOD. GOOD RANT. WHAT YOU JUST HAD THERE. YOU GOOD,
[02:18:15] GOOD TOPICS. THEY'RE ALL PERFECT. UM, I HAVE A SOLUTION
[02:18:18] FOR, UM, SOCIAL SECURITY. WITH WHAT ALEX LAWSON, UH, SPOKE
[02:18:22] ABOUT, BUT I'D LIKE TO. THREE QUICK LITTLE TIDBITS. NUMBER
[02:18:25] ONE, UM, I'M NOT REALLY A
[02:18:26] COUNTRY MUSIC FAN, BUT THE
[02:18:30] SALUTES TREMENDOUSLY TO DOLLY PARTON. SHE'S A WONDERFUL
[02:18:34] PERSON. NUMBER TWO, LES MOONVES
[02:18:36] BACK IN THE DAY, A WHILE AGO, HE
[02:18:38] SAID, UH, UH, DONALD TRUMP MAY NOT BE GOOD FOR THE COUNTRY, BUT
[02:18:41] HE SURE IS FOR CBS, RIGHT? WELL,
[02:18:44] HE WAS WRONG ON BOTH PARTS. LOOK
[02:18:47] WHERE CBS IS NOW, AND LOOK WHERE THE COUNTRY IS. YEAH. >> YOU'RE RIGHT. NUMBER THREE,
[02:18:50] LES THINKS ABOUT, UH, YOU KNOW,
[02:18:52] THE, THE, THE, THE ORACLE, YOU KNOW, THE ELLISON FAMILY AND THE
[02:18:55] DAMAGE THEY'RE DOING THERE. OKAY. NUMBER THREE. >> OH, GOD. IT'S NUMBER THREE.
[02:18:59] UH, DONALD TRUMP AND PUNDITS TO
[02:19:02] MARRY TRUMP AND SALUTE TO HER.
[02:19:04] UM, YOU AND ME, SPEAKING ABOUT
[02:19:07] THIS FOR, I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG TIME THAT, YOU KNOW, TRUMP IS
[02:19:10] OWNED BY, UH, RUSSIA AND PUTIN.
[02:19:13] AND IT'S, IT'S BLATANTLY OBVIOUS
[02:19:16] DECISION HE'S MADE RIGHT ACROSS
[02:19:18] THE BOARD. AND I'M REALLY
[02:19:21] DISHEARTENED THAT THE LEGACY
[02:19:22] NETWORK, CBS, NBC, ABC CANNOT DO
[02:19:26] SOME REPORTING ON THIS. AND, YOU KNOW, EVEN THE CABLE NETWORKS,
[02:19:29] Ms NOW, MSNBC AND CNN, BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S TRAGIC.
[02:19:32] >> OH, THEY'RE AFRAID TO EVEN IMPLY THAT HE'S OWNED BY PUTIN.
[02:19:35] AND YOU'RE RIGHT. IT'S SO OBVIOUS. I MEAN, IT'S JUST SO
[02:19:38] OBVIOUS. AND WE KNOW HOW HE GOT OWNED. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, YEAH,
[02:19:41] THERE MIGHT BE A PEE PEE TAPE OR THERE MIGHT BE, YOU KNOW,
[02:19:44] SOMETHING LIKE THAT. BUT BUT THE
[02:19:46] RUSSIAN MAFIA LAUNDERED
[02:19:49] MILLIONS, MAYBE EVEN BILLIONS OF DOLLARS THROUGH TRUMP REAL
[02:19:52] ESTATE. I MEAN, THAT WAS THAT'S HOW THEY STAYED AFLOAT. AND BOTH OF HIS SONS HAVE JUST SAID SO
[02:19:56] OUT LOUD, BASICALLY, YOU KNOW.
[02:20:00] >> YEAH, YEAH. >> THEY SAID, WE GET OUR MONEY. DIDN'T UDAY OR QUSAY SAY, UH,
[02:20:04] WE GOT OUR, WE GOT OUR MONEY FROM RUSSIA. >> ONE OF THEM SAID, WE DON'T
[02:20:08] NEED BANKS ANYMORE. WE GET ALL OUR MONEY FROM RUSSIA. AND THE
[02:20:10] OTHER ONE SAID, WE'RE GETTING MASSIVE INVESTMENTS OR WORDS TO
[02:20:13] THAT EFFECT FROM RUSSIA. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. A DIFFERENT TIMES.
[02:20:17] THERE YOU GO. DIFFERENT CIRCUMSTANCES. BUT YEAH, BOTH OF THEM HAVE SAID THAT BOTH UDAY
[02:20:20] AND QUSAY AND, AND.
[02:20:23] >> IT'S ALL LAID OUT THERE. >> AND WHERE ARE THE ANTI-COMMUNIST REPUBLICANS?
[02:20:26] WHERE, WHERE ARE THE ANTI-FASCIST REPUBLICANS? I REALIZE. >> I DON'T KNOW, THEY.
[02:20:30] >> THEY'RE IN HIDING, I GUESS, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST, IT'S JUST STUNNING.
[02:20:34] >> OR THEY'RE EMBRACING FASCISM. THEY'RE JUST. >> THEY'RE MAYBE ON THE TAKE TO
[02:20:38] PROBABLY, YOU KNOW.
[02:20:40] >> I THINK THAT THAT'S, THAT'S THE THING, THAT'S THE GRAND SECRET IN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY
[02:20:44] IS THAT IF YOU GET ELECTED AS A REPUBLICAN, YOU WILL RETIRE
[02:20:48] RICH. AND WHEN YOU RETIRE, WHEN YOU LEAVE OFFICE, YOU WILL HAVE
[02:20:52] OPPORTUNITIES THAT WILL MAKE YOU EVEN RICHER. AND THAT'S WHY I THINK THAT'S WHY SO MANY OF THEM ARE DOING IT. AND I THINK
[02:20:55] IT'S WHY, WHY THEY DON'T LAST THAT LONG. STEVE, I GOT TO RUN.
[02:20:58] BUT THANKS FOR THE CALL. >> SPOT ON. >> IT'S 19 MINUTES PAST THE
[02:21:02] HOUR. I'LL BE BACK WITH YOU IN
[02:21:03] 60s.
[02:21:07] >> STAY TUNED
[02:21:08] >> [MUSIC]
[02:21:22] [MUSIC]
[02:21:31] [MUSIC] >> TIRED OF NEWS THAT PROTECTS THE POWERFUL? GET REPORTING WITH
[02:21:34] A BACKBONE AT THE COMMONWEALTH. REPORT. NEWS FOR THE PUBLIC, NOT
[02:21:38] THE POWERFUL. TWICE DAILY VISIT.
[02:21:40] COMMONWEALTH REPORT. >> DOT.
[02:21:44] >> JOIN C-SPAN 2 AT 6 P.M. EASTERN FOR MARATHON PROGRAMING,
[02:21:48] HIGHLIGHTING SOME OF THE MOST CONSEQUENTIAL, COMPELLING, AND
[02:21:51] MEMORABLE MOMENTS COVERED BY
[02:21:53] C-SPAN IN 2026. TODAY, SUPREME
[02:21:56] COURT JUSTICES DISCUSSING THEIR LIVES, THE CONSTITUTION, THE
[02:22:00] COURT, AND WHAT IT MEANS TO SERVE ON THE NATION'S HIGHEST
[02:22:02] COURT. WATCH A MARATHON OF
[02:22:04] COMPELLING PROGRAMING TODAY ON
[02:22:08] C-SPAN, TWO.
[02:22:14] >> MY COAT OF MANY COLORS, I HURRIED OFF TO SCHOOL JUST TO
[02:22:17] FIND THE OTHERS LAUGHING AND MAKING FUN OF ME IN MY COAT OF
[02:22:21] MANY COLORS THAT MAMA MADE FOR
[02:22:24] ME IN MY COAT OF MANY COLORS
[02:22:32] ONLY FROM RAGS. BUT I WORE IT SO
[02:22:34] PROUDLY. AND ALTHOUGH WE HAD NO
[02:22:39] MONEY, I WAS RICH AS I COULD BE.
[02:22:43] IN MY COAT OF MANY COLORS. MAMA
[02:22:49] ME. >> DOLLY PARTON. READING AND SINGING TO CHILDREN. IN A 2018
[02:22:52] APPEARANCE ON C-SPAN, THE TENNESSEE NATIVE, WHO DIED THIS
[02:22:55] WEEK AT THE AGE OF 80, HAS DONATED MORE THAN 300 MILLION
[02:22:58] BOOKS TO CHILDREN AS PART OF HER
[02:23:02] IMAGINATION LIBRARY PROGRAM. ON SATURDAY, WE'LL REMEMBER THE
[02:23:05] LIFE AND LEGACY OF DOLLY PARTON
[02:23:07] THROUGH HER APPEARANCES ON
[02:23:10] C-SPAN. WATCH AT 8 P.M.
[02:23:13] >> THAT'S AWESOME MAN. I DIDN'T KNOW, BUT LOOK, LOOK, WHAT I'M. WHAT I'M CALLING
[02:23:17] ABOUT IS THAT YOU REMEMBER THE
[02:23:19] LAST CHARADE THAT TRUMP HAD WITH
[02:23:21] CANADA, YOU KNOW, AND ALL THE
[02:23:23] OTHERS THAT AT THAT PARTICULAR TIME AND, AND CANADA KIND OF
[02:23:27] LIKE, REMINDED OF TRUMP AND
[02:23:31] AMERICA THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY SUPPLY ELECTRIC TO CERTAIN PARTS
[02:23:35] OF THE UNITED STATES. >> YEAH. THERE'S LIKE FIVE STATES THAT GET A GOOD CHUNK OF THEIR ELECTRICITY FROM CANADA. I
[02:23:39] MEAN, CANADA, IF THEY REALLY WANT IT, THEY COULD HAVE US BY
[02:23:41] THE SHORT HAIRS, YOU KNOW? >> YEAH. SO RIGHT NOW, WHAT
[02:23:45] TRUMP IS TRYING TO DO NOW, HE'S TRYING TO POKE THE PRIME
[02:23:47] MINISTER. HE TRYING TO HOPING
[02:23:50] THAT HE CAN GET UP UNDER HIS SKIN, THAT HE JUST HIT THE
[02:23:53] LIGHTS BEFORE THE ELECTIONS.
[02:23:55] RIGHT. MHM. SO I'M ASKING THE
[02:23:58] PRIME MINISTER, LOOK, DON'T CUT
[02:24:00] OUT THE LIGHTS BECAUSE ONCE WE
[02:24:04] GET A CHANCE TO VOTE, WE GOING
[02:24:06] TO IMPEACH HIM OUT OF THE UNITED
[02:24:11] STATES. SO THAT'S WHAT I HOPE THE PRIME MINISTER DON'T FALL INTO THE TRAP, BECAUSE ALL THIS
[02:24:15] IS JUST AN ILLUSION. ANYWAY,
[02:24:19] BECAUSE I I'M LIKE YOU AND JAMIE AND THE REST OF THE VIEWERS. I'M A CHRISTIAN AS
[02:24:23] WELL. AND WHEN YOU HEAR THE
[02:24:25] TRUTH, YOU CAN'T HELP BUT SAY, AMEN. YEAH. AND THAT'S WHY I
[02:24:29] LISTEN TO THIS GUY ON THE FLOOR.
[02:24:32] 33. I LOVE HIM, TOM. I, I I PRAY
[02:24:35] THAT YOU GUYS CONTINUE ON DOING WHAT YOU'RE DOING FOR THE
[02:24:39] PEOPLE TO INFORM, BECAUSE KNOWLEDGE IS WISDOM. AND I THANK
[02:24:43] YOU, MAN, I REALLY DO. >> THANK YOU, LOUIS. THANK YOU VERY, VERY MUCH FOR YOUR KIND
[02:24:47] WORDS AND SPOT. AND I AGREE WITH
[02:24:48] YOU ON CANADA. SPOT ON. THANK YOU. DOUG IN PORTLAND. HEY,
[02:24:52] DOUG, WHAT'S ON YOUR MIND TODAY >> HEY.
[02:24:55] >> GOOD MORNING TOM. UM, I APPRECIATE BEING ABLE TO TALK TO
[02:24:59] YOU AND YOUR AUDIENCE. I WANTED TO SHARE TWO QUICK STORIES FROM
[02:25:03] MY PERSONAL LIFE, AND I THINK THEY'RE PRETTY RELEVANT TO WHAT YOU'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT. ONE
[02:25:07] IS A NEIGHBOR OF MINE WHO'S UP THE STREET, AND WE TALK HERE AND
[02:25:10] THERE, AND HE'S A NICE GUY. HIS NAME IS SLOBODAN. I THINK. I CAN
[02:25:13] NEVER PRONOUNCE IT. HE'S FROM
[02:25:18] ORIGINALLY FROM ROMANIA, AND HE IS A CITIZEN. HE'S BEEN HERE LIKE OVER 30 YEARS. HE'S
[02:25:22] ACTUALLY LIKE YOU, APPARENTLY,
[02:25:24] UH, ELECTRICAL ENGINEER. >> MHM.
[02:25:27] >> WE WERE TALKING THE OTHER DAY
[02:25:30] AT A NEIGHBORHOOD THING AND ABOUT KIDS AND CARS IN THE
[02:25:33] NEIGHBORHOOD. AND THEN THE SUBJECT TURNED TO POLITICS, AND
[02:25:37] HIS DEMEANOR CHANGED, AND HIS
[02:25:40] LOOK CHANGED. AND HE SAID TO ME,
[02:25:42] AMERICA AND AMERICANS, YOU GUYS DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DEALING
[02:25:46] WITH HERE. AND, YOU KNOW, HE WAS
[02:25:49] CLEARLY HARKENING BACK TO, UH, YOU KNOW, THE OLD DAYS IN THE
[02:25:53] EASTERN BLOC AND JUST HOW UGLY
[02:25:56] AND HOW HOW YOUR RIGHTS CAN JUST
[02:26:01] ERODE. YEAH, YEAH. UM, IT WAS,
[02:26:05] IT WAS STRIKING TO ME, UH, THE OTHER PERSONAL THING I WANTED TO MENTION IS THAT, UH, I'VE BEEN
[02:26:09] MARRIED ABOUT 23 YEARS TO, WE
[02:26:12] HAVE A GREAT RELATIONSHIP HERE IN PORTLAND, BUT ABOUT 40 YEARS
[02:26:15] AGO, MY WIFE WAS MARRIED TO, AN
[02:26:20] ABUSIVE MAN, AND HE WAS VIOLENT.
[02:26:22] HE WAS A CON MAN. HE WAS LYING.
[02:26:25] AND SHE HAS PTSD FROM THAT.
[02:26:28] ABSOLUTELY. WE TALK ABOUT IT
[02:26:32] PERIODICALLY. I PTSD. I THINK
[02:26:33] OUR WHOLE COUNTRY IS SUFFERING
[02:26:37] FROM A VERSION OF TRAUMA AND
[02:26:39] PTSD FROM THIS ADMINISTRATION AND FROM ALL THE SHENANIGANS YOU
[02:26:43] OUTLINED IN YOUR RANT. >> YEAH, THERE'S THERE'S NO DOUBT IN MY MIND THAT TRUMP IS
[02:26:46] AN ABUSER. I DON'T MEAN THAT HE NECESSARILY BEAT HIS KIDS OR, OR
[02:26:50] HIS WIVES, BUT HE'S A PSYCHOLOGICAL ABUSER. THERE'S NO DOUBT ABOUT THAT.
[02:26:54] >> I FEEL ABUSED, AND I FEEL
[02:26:57] UPLIFTED BY YOUR SHOW AND BY LATE NIGHT COMICS AND OTHER THINGS THAT PUT IT IN
[02:27:01] PERSPECTIVE. BUT THEN, AS YOU POINTED OUT EARLIER, IT CAN'T GET ANY CRAZIER. I MEAN, THAT
[02:27:05] STUFF ABOUT THE BANK, I MEAN, JUST THE WILD RENAMING THE LAKE.
[02:27:08] I MEAN, IT'S JUST CRAZY. AND I
[02:27:12] FEEL TRAUMATIZED BY IT ALL. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. >> WELCOME TO THE CLUB, DOUG.
[02:27:16] WELCOME TO THE CLUB, DOUG. THANKS. >> THANKS FOR. >> THANKS FOR SHARING THE STORY.
[02:27:20] THAT'S THOSE PERSONAL STORIES HAVE A LOT OF IMPACT. I APPRECIATE THE CALL. THANK YOU.
[02:27:24] JOHN. IN RIVER FOREST, ILLINOIS. JOHN, THANKS FOR LISTENING TO WCPT.
[02:27:28] >> WHAT'S UP? HEY, IT'S JEN. SORRY, JEN. >> I'M SORRY. YEAH. YOU'RE RIGHT.
[02:27:32] >> YEAH. NO, NO IT'S OKAY. >> I JUST GLANCED. >> I WAS GONNA I'M JUST LOVING
[02:27:35] EVERYTHING SAY TODAY. AND I WAS
[02:27:39] KIND OF PIGGYBACKING OFF OF AN EARLIER CALLER. I NEED YOUR
[02:27:42] WATER COOLER HELP. I REALLY DO,
[02:27:45] BECAUSE I HAVE A VERY GOOD
[02:27:47] FRIEND WHO IS CONVINCED THAT.
[02:27:50] DEARBORN, MICHIGAN, IS UNDER SIEGE. AND, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, LIKE, THIS AGENDA TO TAKE OVER
[02:27:54] ALL THE AMERICAN CITIES AND PUT
[02:27:56] IN SHARIA LAW. AND I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHERE TO START. WELL, I
[02:27:59] MEAN, HE.
[02:28:00] >> DOESN'T EVEN. >> JUST MAMDANI.
[02:28:04] >> IT'S JUST NOT EVEN TRUE. I MEAN, IT'S LIKE I. >> DO, BUT HE'S, HE'S LIKE,
[02:28:08] NO, I'VE SEEN IT. I'VE SEEN THE MEETINGS AND THIS AND THAT.
[02:28:12] AND I DON'T KNOW WHERE HE'S, YOU KNOW. >> HE, THERE'S, THERE'S CRAZY
[02:28:15] STUFF ON YOUTUBE. SO YEAH WELL,
[02:28:18] THIS IS, THIS IS THE THING. I MEAN, THEY'RE, THEY'RE DOUBLING.
[02:28:22] AND THE REPUBLICANS ARE DOUBLING AND TRIPLING DOWN ON HATING
[02:28:25] MUSLIMS AND FEARING MUSLIMS BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT A MUSLIM GUY RUNNING FOR THE UNITED STATES
[02:28:29] SENATE IN MICHIGAN, YOU KNOW. EL-SAYED DOCTOR EL-SAYED.
[02:28:33] >> RIGHT. AND THAT SCARES HIM. >> YEAH, YEAH. AND IT SCARES A
[02:28:36] LOT OF PEOPLE. I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT THEY HAVE. YOU KNOW, IT'S
[02:28:40] WILLIE HORTON ALL OVER AGAIN. YOU KNOW WILLIE HORTON WHO NEVER
[02:28:42] CALLED HIMSELF WILLIE. BUT HEY, WILLIE SOUNDS BLACKER THAN
[02:28:45] WILLIAM. RIGHT. AND OR BILL.
[02:28:48] AND, UH, SO I DON'T, I DON'T
[02:28:52] HAVE ANY MAGIC WORDS FOR YOU, JEN. I, YOU KNOW, YOU.
[02:28:56] >> MIGHT. >> YOU MIGHT WANT TO ASK AN AI PROGRAM. YOU KNOW. >> OKAY.
[02:29:00] >> WHAT'S THE, WHAT'S THE TRUE BACKSTORY HERE? BUT YEAH, IT'S, IT'S.
[02:29:04] >> UH. >> IT'S A TOUGH ONE. JEN. THANK YOU FOR THE CALL AND GOOD LUCK.
[02:29:06] >> THANK YOU. TOM. >> IT'S TOUGH DEPROGRAMMING
[02:29:09] THESE PEOPLE. I MEAN, THAT'S REALLY WHAT IT IS. YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT CULT DEPROGRAMMING.
[02:29:13] >> I KNOW. >> THANK YOU JEN. THANKS. 27
[02:29:14] MINUTES PAST THE HOUR. WE'LL BE. >> BACK.
[02:29:18] >> YOU'RE LISTENING TO THE THOM HARTMANN >> [MUSIC]
[02:29:20] >> PROGRAM. CALL 20208089925.
[02:29:25] >> DEFENDING AMERICA FROM THE WEAPONS OF MASS DECEPTION. I'LL
[02:29:28] BE RIGHT BACK WITH YOUR CALLS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THIS BREAK.
[02:29:30] >> STAY WITH US.
[02:29:35] >> [MUSIC] [MUSIC]
[02:29:46] >> GOOD MORNING. THIS IS THE COMMONWEALTH REPORT, GEEKY
[02:29:49] SCIENCE FRIDAY VERSION. NEWS FOR THE PUBLIC, NOT THE POWERFUL. YOU CAN FOLLOW US AT
[02:29:53] COMMONWEALTH REPORT.NEWS. DID
[02:29:55] CLIMATE CHANGE BUILD THIS HEAT DOME? OVER 80 MILLION AMERICANS,
[02:29:59] MORE THAN 80 MILLION AMERICANS ARE UNDER AN EXTREME HEAT
[02:30:03] WARNING OR A HEAT ADVISORY THIS WEEK. FORECASTERS CALL THIS HEAT
[02:30:06] DOME STEAMY EVEN BY LATE AUGUST
[02:30:08] STANDARDS. RECORD HEAT KEEPS PUNISHING THE SOUTH CENTRAL
[02:30:12] STATES AND SPREADS INTO THE SOUTHWEST BY MIDWEEK, WITH HIGHS
[02:30:15] WELL ABOVE 100 DEGREES IN PARTS
[02:30:16] OF ARIZONA AND NEW MEXICO,
[02:30:20] TOPPING 110. THE HEAT INDEX HIT
[02:30:22] 105 TO 115 ACROSS SOUTHERN
[02:30:25] ARIZONA. TEXAS, LOUISIANA AND NORTHERN FLORIDA. THE KNIGHTS
[02:30:29] WON'T COOL DOWN, EITHER, AND THAT'S WHEN THE BODY IS SUPPOSED TO RECOVER. MICHAEL
[02:30:32] WEHNER OF LAWRENCE BERKELEY NATIONAL LABORATORY, SAYS
[02:30:36] CLIMATE CHANGE HAS RAISED
[02:30:37] ORDINARY HEAT WAVES BY 3 TO 5°F.
[02:30:41] AMERICAN HEAT WAVES HAVE DOUBLED SINCE THE 1980s. HEAT ALREADY
[02:30:45] KILLS MORE PEOPLE THAN HURRICANES, WILDFIRES AND FLOODS
[02:30:49] COMBINED. AND THOSE DEATHS GET
[02:30:51] UNDERCOUNTED. AND TRUMP KEEPS CUTTING. THE VERY FORECASTERS
[02:30:54] WHO WARN US AND CLAIMING THAT
[02:30:55] IT'S ALL JUST A HOAX. BIG OIL
[02:30:59] DRAINED A LAKE MEAD'S WORTH OF WATER FROM THE WEST. NOW WE KNOW
[02:31:02] WHO DID IT. A NEW STUDY IN
[02:31:06] NATURE COMMUNICATIONS, EARTH AND
[02:31:08] ENVIRONMENT, FINDS THAT 122
[02:31:10] FOSSIL FUEL AND CEMENT COMPANIES ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR ABOUT HALF THE WATER. CLIMATE CHANGE HAS
[02:31:14] STOLEN FROM THE AMERICAN WEST.
[02:31:19] FROM 2014 TO 2024, WARMING CUT THE REGION'S SNOWPACK BY MORE
[02:31:22] THAN A THIRD AND DROPPED
[02:31:24] STREAMFLOWS BY 13%. THE CARBON MAJORS SHARE OF THAT LOSS ADDS
[02:31:28] UP TO TRILLIONS OF GALLONS,
[02:31:32] ROUGHLY THE ENTIRE CAPACITY OF LAKE MEAD. IN THE LOWER COLORADO
[02:31:34] RIVER BASIN, STREAMFLOW FELL
[02:31:37] 21%. 40 MILLION PEOPLE DEPEND ON THAT RIVER. COAUTHOR CARLY
[02:31:40] PHILLIPS OF THE UNION OF CONCERNED SCIENTISTS, SAYS THE
[02:31:44] COMPANIES, QUOTE, ENGAGED IN A CAMPAIGN OF DELAY AND DENIAL AND
[02:31:47] DECEPTION. CITIES AND STATES ARE ALREADY SUING. THE STUDY HANDS
[02:31:51] THEM THE PROOF IS THE SWEETENER
[02:31:54] IN YOUR GUM. RAISING YOUR HEART ATTACK. RISK. XYLITOL SHOWS UP
[02:31:58] IN SUGAR FREE GUM, CANDY, BAKED GOODS, AND TOOTHPASTE, AND IT'S
[02:32:02] SOLD AS A SAFE CHOICE. NOW,
[02:32:03] RESEARCH. NEW RESEARCH PRESENTED
[02:32:06] AT THE EUROPEAN SOCIETY OF CARDIOLOGY CONGRESS SAYS
[02:32:10] OTHERWISE. RESEARCHERS AT SHAKUR UNIVERSITY HOSPITAL IN BERLIN
[02:32:14] TRACKED ROUGHLY 17,000 PEOPLE
[02:32:16] ACROSS CANADIAN AND EUROPEAN
[02:32:18] STUDIES. AMONG CANADIAN
[02:32:23] PARTICIPANTS, THOSE CONSUMING THE MOST, XYLITOL HAD A 57% HIGHER RISK OF A MAJOR
[02:32:25] CARDIOVASCULAR EVENT OVER SIX
[02:32:27] YEARS. IN THE EUROPEAN GROUP,
[02:32:30] THE RISK RAN 18% HIGHER OVER 30
[02:32:32] YEARS. LEAD AUTHOR MARCO WITTKOWSKI SAYS FURTHER STUDIES
[02:32:35] ARE WARRANTED, ESPECIALLY AS
[02:32:40] PRODUCT LEVELS KEEP CLIMBING. THIS IS OBSERVATIONAL WORK, SO IT CAN'T PROVE CAUSE. BUT
[02:32:43] REGULATORS CALL THESE SWEETENERS SAFE. DECADES AGO, AND NEVER
[02:32:45] WENT BACK TO CHECK. WHILE MANUFACTURERS KEPT INCREASING
[02:32:49] THE DOSES CAN A DIET SODA REALLY
[02:32:56] TRIPLE YOUR STOMACH CANCER RISK? MASS GENERAL BRIGHAM RESEARCHERS
[02:32:57] FOLLOWED 112,284 PEOPLE IN THE
[02:33:01] NURSES HEALTH STUDY AND THE HEALTH PROFESSIONALS FOLLOW UP STUDY. FOR DECADES. PEOPLE WHO
[02:33:04] DRANK AT LEAST ONE SUGAR
[02:33:07] SWEETENED BEVERAGE A DAY HAD 2.45 TIMES THE RISK OF STOMACH
[02:33:11] CANCER, COMPARED TO PEOPLE WHO
[02:33:12] DRANK LESS THAN ONE A MONTH. AMONG WOMEN DRINKING MORE THAN
[02:33:16] ONE A DAY, THE RISK RAN MORE THAN THREE TIMES HIGHER. SODAS,
[02:33:19] FRUIT PUNCH, LEMONADE AND SPORT
[02:33:22] DRINKS ALL COUNTED. DIET SODAS SHOWED NO LINK AT ALL. SENIOR
[02:33:26] AUTHOR ANDREW CHAN SAYS THE RISK
[02:33:27] APPEARS MEANINGFUL HIGHER FOR
[02:33:31] REGULAR DRINKERS. STOMACH CANCER IS STILL RARE, AND THIS IS AN
[02:33:33] ASSOCIATION, NOT PROOF. BUT ROUGHLY 65% OF AMERICAN ADULTS
[02:33:37] DRINK ONE OF THESE EVERY DAY, AND THE BEVERAGE INDUSTRY SPENDS
[02:33:41] MILLIONS. MAKING SURE THAT DOESN'T CHANGE. THE FDA
[02:33:44] APPROVES A PANCREATIC CANCER
[02:33:50] BREAKTHROUGH, PRICED AT $39,000 A MONTH. FOR 40 YEARS, SCIENTISTS CALLED THE KRAS GENE
[02:33:54] UNDRUGGABLE. IT DRIVES MORE THAN
[02:33:57] 90% OF PANCREATIC TUMORS, AND THE PROTEIN IS SO SMOOTH, THE DRUGS SLIDE RIGHT OFF IT. ON
[02:34:01] WEDNESDAY, THE FDA APPROVED
[02:34:04] DARAXONRASIB SOLD AS ROB
[02:34:06] HIAASEN, A ONCE DAILY PILL FROM
[02:34:10] REVOLUTION MEDICINES. THE FDA CLEARED IT SIX AND A HALF MONTHS EARLY UNDER A NEW EXPEDITED REVIEW, FIVE WEEKS AFTER THE
[02:34:14] COMPANY FILED IN A PHASE THREE
[02:34:17] TRIAL OF 500 PATIENTS WITH METASTATIC PANCREATIC CANCER.
[02:34:20] MEDIAN SURVIVAL WENT FROM 6.7
[02:34:21] MONTHS ON CHEMOTHERAPY TO 13.2
[02:34:24] MONTHS ON THE PILL. IT CUT THE
[02:34:27] RISK OF DEATH BY 60%. MD
[02:34:29] ANDERSON, SUBCOMPACT, COMPARED
[02:34:33] KRAS S TO A SHINY BALL. BUT HERE'S THE CATCH. REVOLUTION
[02:34:36] MEDICINE PRICED IT AT $39,800
[02:34:40] FOR A 30 DAY SUPPLY. THAT'S A
[02:34:43] REAL MEDICAL BREAKTHROUGH. LOCKED BEHIND A PRICE. NOBODY
[02:34:45] WITHOUT GOOD INSURANCE CAN TOUCH
[02:34:48] WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THE OCEANS, THE FORESTS, AND THE WHEAT ALL BREAK AT ONCE? BILL MCKIBBEN
[02:34:52] LAID IT OUT THIS WEEK. THE GLOBAL SEA SURFACE JUST HIT THE
[02:34:55] HIGHEST TEMPERATURE EVER RECORDED, AND ONE CANADIAN
[02:34:59] SCIENTIST FIGURES. AUGUST 21st
[02:35:02] WAS LIKELY THE WARMEST OCEAN
[02:35:06] SINCE THE LAST INTERGLACIAL 125,000 YEARS AGO. 42% OF THE WORLD'S OCEAN IS IN A MARINE
[02:35:10] HEAT WAVE RIGHT NOW. CORAL IS
[02:35:11] BLEACHING AGAIN, AND REEFS FEED
[02:35:15] 500 MILLION PEOPLE OUT WEST. HOT FIRES ARE TURNING CONIFER
[02:35:18] FORESTS INTO SHRUBLAND FOR GOOD.
[02:35:20] STUDIES SAY 40% OF WESTERN
[02:35:22] CONIFERS COULD BE GONE BY 2100.
[02:35:25] SOME WESTERN STATES GET 75% OF THEIR WATER FROM SNOWMELT, AND
[02:35:28] THE WHEAT IS FAILING. AMERICA IS HEADING FOR ITS WORST WHEAT
[02:35:31] HARVEST IN 50 YEARS. ONE NEW
[02:35:34] STUDY SAYS THREE DEGREES OF WARMING COULD TRIPLE GLOBAL
[02:35:37] WHEAT PRICES. MCKIBBEN'S POINT IS SIMPLE POLITICS IS A SUBSET
[02:35:41] OF PHYSICS. YOU CAN LIE ABOUT A LOT. A LOT OF THINGS. BUT WHEAT
[02:35:45] IS REAL, AND THAT'S THE WAY IT IS.
[02:35:48] >> TODAY. FARIAS 28, 2016.
[02:35:54] >> [MUSIC]
[02:35:59] >> YOU WERE PROMISED SOMETHING. WORK HARD, PLAY BY THE RULES,
[02:36:01] AND YOU'D OWN A HOME, RAISE A FAMILY, AND RETIRE WITH DIGNITY. THAT WAS THE DEAL. IT WAS CALLED
[02:36:05] THE AMERICAN. >> DREAM.
[02:36:08] >> JOIN C-SPAN 2 AT 6 P.M.
[02:36:13] EASTERN FOR MARATHON PROGRAMING, HIGHLIGHTING SOME OF THE MOST CONSEQUENTIAL, COMPELLING, AND
[02:36:17] MEMORABLE MOMENTS COVERED BY C-SPAN IN 2026. TODAY, SUPREME
[02:36:20] COURT JUSTICES DISCUSSING THEIR LIVES, THE CONSTITUTION, THE
[02:36:24] COURT, AND WHAT IT MEANS TO
[02:36:26] SERVE ON THE NATION'S HIGHEST
[02:36:29] COURT. WATCH A MARATHON OF COMPELLING PROGRAMING TODAY ON
[02:36:32] C-SPAN. TWO.
[02:36:41] >> AMERICAN HISTORY TV SATURDAYS ON C-SPAN. TWO. EXPLORING THE
[02:36:43] PEOPLE AND EVENTS THAT TELL THE AMERICAN STORY. AT 1:30 P.M.
[02:36:47] EASTERN, WE'LL TAKE YOU ON A TOUR OF THE IOWA STATE FAIR FOR
[02:36:49] A LOOK AT THE ANNUAL CELEBRATIONS. FAMOUS LANDMARKS,
[02:36:53] STORIES FROM THE FAIR'S PAST, AND AN UP CLOSE ENCOUNTER WITH
[02:36:56] THE ICONIC BUTTER COW. LATER, A
[02:36:59] HISTORICAL TOUR OF THE MARINE BARRACKS IN WASHINGTON, D.C.,
[02:37:03] HOME OF THE PRESIDENT'S OWN U.S. MARINE BAND. YOU'LL HEAR FROM THE BAND'S DRUM MAJOR AND THEN
[02:37:06] SEE THE WEEKLY DRILL PARADE AND CONCERT OF THE MARINE CORPS AT 5
[02:37:09] P.M. EASTERN, AND THEN AT 7:30 P.M. EASTERN. AS PART OF OUR IN
[02:37:14] PURSUIT SERIES ON PRESIDENTIAL LEADERSHIP, JOURNALISTS AND HISTORIANS REFLECT ON THE
[02:37:18] LEGACIES OF PRESIDENT WARREN
[02:37:22] HARDING, FIRST LADY FLORENCE HARDING, PRESIDENT WOODROW WILSON, AND FIRST LADY EDITH
[02:37:25] WILSON, EXPLORING THE AMERICAN STORY. WATCH AMERICAN HISTORY TV
[02:37:29] SATURDAYS ON C-SPAN TWO AND FIND THE FULL SCHEDULE ON YOUR
[02:37:32] PROGRAM GUIDE, OR WATCH ONLINE
[02:37:34] ANYTIME AT C-SPAN.ORG SLASH
[02:37:39] HISTORY.
[02:37:39] >> HEY
[02:37:45] >> THE CONSERVATIVES. THEM AS THE REPUGNANT ONES.
[02:37:48] >> REPUGNANT ONES. OKAY, THAT'S.
[02:37:53] >> A. >> GOOD KIND OF RHYMES WITH REPUBLICAN. >> YEAH, IT DOES. THERE'S PEOPLE
[02:37:56] CALL HIM A THUG I'M GENERALLY. I
[02:37:58] MEAN, I'M OFFENDED WHEN, WHENEVER THEY TALK ABOUT THE
[02:38:02] DEMOCRAT PARTY, BECAUSE THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS THE DEMOCRAT PARTY. THERE'S THERE'S. THE
[02:38:05] DEMOCRATIC PARTY WAS NAMED BY THOMAS JEFFERSON, FOR GOODNESS
[02:38:08] SAKES. AND, AND, UH, YOU KNOW,
[02:38:11] BUT, BUT IT GOES BACK TO 1956
[02:38:14] WHEN, WHEN, UH, YOU KNOW, UH,
[02:38:16] OH, WHAT WAS HIS NAME? THE CRAZY
[02:38:18] SENATOR. UM, SAID, DON'T EVER
[02:38:21] SAY DEMOCRATIC PARTY. ALWAYS SAY DEMOCRAT PARTY WITH AN EMPHASIS
[02:38:24] ON THE RAT AND THE REPUBLICANS AND FOX NEWS HAVE TURNED THIS INTO A RELIGION, WHICH IS
[02:38:28] BIZARRE, BUT THAT'S A GOOD ONE. BILL, THANKS A LOT FOR THE CALL. GRANT IN LOS ANGELES. HEY,
[02:38:32] GRANT, WHAT'S ON YOUR MIND
[02:38:35] TODAY? >> THE 2007 HOUSING CRASH.
[02:38:39] THERE'S A YOUTUBE VIDEO OF
[02:38:42] TRUMP IN 2006 SAYING THAT WE WERE IN A HOUSING BUBBLE, AND HE
[02:38:46] WANTED A HOUSING CRASH. SO HE AND HIS BILLIONAIRE FRIENDS CAN
[02:38:49] BUY UP THE REAL ESTATE. AND SINCE THEN, INTEREST RATES WERE
[02:38:53] AT ZERO FOR A DECADE OR SO. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, OF COURSE, THE
[02:38:56] WEALTHY AND CORPORATIONS HAVE
[02:38:58] BEEN BUYING UP HOMES LIKE CRAZY.
[02:39:01] AND JUST TODAY ON CNBC, JIM
[02:39:03] CRAMER, KIND OF OUT OF THE BLUE,
[02:39:05] SAID, WE'RE KIND OF SET UP FOR
[02:39:08] A 1987 STYLE CRASH. AND HE'S EX
[02:39:11] GOLDMAN SACHS. AND, UH, YOU KNOW, LIKE ALL THE FED CHAIRS
[02:39:15] ARE ALL EX GOLDMAN SACHS, LIKE
[02:39:18] STEVE MNUCHIN, WHO ALSO BOUGHT A
[02:39:19] BANK LIKE TRUMP'S. I THINK I
[02:39:22] THINK SOMETHING'S GOING ON. SO I THINK SO TOO. THE HEDGE FUNDS
[02:39:25] ARE DUMPING REAL ESTATE OR WHAT.
[02:39:27] >> BUT THERE'S THERE'S A LOT OF STRESS STRESSORS GOING ON.
[02:39:31] WE'RE IN A RECESSION. YOU'VE
[02:39:34] GOT A CRAZY GUY IN THE WHITE HOUSE. OCTOBER SEEMS TO BE THE
[02:39:36] MONTH WHEN CRASHES HAPPEN. UM,
[02:39:40] SO, YOU KNOW, I'M KIND OF HOLDING MY BREATH. I, UH.
[02:39:43] >> FOR HIM TO SAY THAT, THOUGH, THAT'S PRETTY, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, HE DOESN'T JOKE AROUND
[02:39:47] LIKE THAT. IT'S KIND OF. NO, HE'S KIND OF SHOCKED WHEN HE
[02:39:51] SAID IT, BUT I THOUGHT THAT WAS KIND OF INTERESTING. >> YEAH. AND, AND THE THING THAT
[02:39:54] THE ONE POINT THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO MAKE ABOUT THIS, THAT YOU JUST MADE, GRANT, IT
[02:39:58] PROBABLY JUST SLID RIGHT BY.
[02:39:59] MOST OF THE PEOPLE LISTENING IS
[02:40:03] MOST AVERAGE PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE, PEOPLE OF, YOU KNOW,
[02:40:05] NORMAL MEANS PEOPLE LIKE YOU AND
[02:40:07] ME, UH, ASSUME THAT A RECESSION
[02:40:10] OR EVEN A GREAT DEPRESSION STYLE
[02:40:14] EVENT IS SOMETHING THAT RICH PEOPLE WOULDN'T WANT BECAUSE
[02:40:16] THEY COULD LOSE SO MUCH. AND IN
[02:40:20] FACT, IT IS A BUYING OPPORTUNITY
[02:40:22] FOR THEM. UM, I USED TO BE GOOD
[02:40:26] FRIENDS WITH GLORIA SWANSON, THE, THE MOVIE ACTRESS. SHE'S, SHE'S BEEN DEAD FOR A WHILE,
[02:40:30] BUT BACK WHEN LOUISE AND I WERE RUNNING A COMMUNITY FOR ABUSED KIDS, SHE WAS ON OUR BOARD, AND
[02:40:33] SHE HELPED US RAISE MONEY. SHE WAS A VEGETARIAN, AND WE WERE VEGETARIANS, AND THAT WAS THE
[02:40:37] THING WE HAD IN COMMON. AND I USED TO VISIT HER IN NEW YORK
[02:40:41] CITY ALL THE TIME, AND SHE WOULD TELL ME THESE WILD STORIES ABOUT JOE KENNEDY AND HOW HE RIPPED
[02:40:44] HER OFF. AND HE WAS HER LOVER FOR A WHILE AND MANAGED HER
[02:40:47] MONEY AND STOLE A BUNCH OF IT.
[02:40:50] AND, AND THE POINT THAT SHE MADE WAS THAT THE BIGGEST, SOME OF
[02:40:54] THE BIGGEST FORTUNES IN AMERICA WERE MADE DURING THE GREAT DEPRESSION, BECAUSE IT WAS A
[02:40:58] BUYING OPPORTUNITY. SHE SAID KENNEDY PULLED EVERYTHING OUT OF THE MARKET ABOUT TWO WEEKS
[02:41:01] BEFORE THE CRASH, BECAUSE HE SAW IT COMING, AND HIS COMMENT WAS
[02:41:05] THAT WHEN A SHOESHINE BOY STARTED GIVING HIM STOCK ADVICE,
[02:41:08] HE KNEW IT WAS TIME TO GET OUT. AND THEN, WITH ALL THAT MONEY,
[02:41:11] HE JUST BOUGHT IT. ONCE THE MARKET HIT BOTTOM, HE WAS BUYING
[02:41:15] LIKE THERE WAS NO TOMORROW. AND THAT'S THEN. THAT ACCOUNTS FOR AN AWFUL LOT OF THE KENNEDY
[02:41:19] FORTUNE RIGHT NOW. AND ALL THE RICH PEOPLE WERE DOING THIS
[02:41:21] BECAUSE THEY HAD CASH. THE PHRASE BACK THEN WAS, CASH IS
[02:41:25] KING. AND WE SAW THE SAME THING IN 87, WHEN THE CRASH HAPPENED DURING REAGAN. THAT WAS THE
[02:41:29] SECOND LARGEST CRASH SINCE THE SINCE THE GREAT DEPRESSION. AND,
[02:41:32] AND, YOU KNOW, RICH PEOPLE,
[02:41:36] GENUINELY RICH PEOPLE JUST LOVE ECONOMIC DISASTERS BECAUSE. >> RIGHT. >> BECAUSE THEY CAN JUST BUY,
[02:41:40] YOU KNOW, THE BIG COMPANIES CAN BUY UP ALL THE SMALL BUSINESSES
[02:41:43] THAT ARE DISTRESSED. IT WIPES OUT ENTREPRENEURS. IT JUST, IT
[02:41:46] JUST. AND THE REAL ESTATE BARONS CAN BUY UP SINGLE FAMILY HOMES
[02:41:50] AND TURN THEM INTO RENTALS. AND IT'S JUST A MARVELOUS OPPORTUNITY. AND SO THEY
[02:41:54] ACTUALLY, IN SOME CASES, EVEN ENGINEER THESE THINGS. AND IT
[02:41:57] WOULDN'T SURPRISE ME AT ALL IF THIS, THIS OCTOBER, OR ACTUALLY,
[02:42:00] I THINK THEY'LL PROBABLY, IF, IF TRUMP HAS ANY CONTROL OVER IT
[02:42:04] AT ALL, HE'LL TRY TO DO IT AFTER THE ELECTION. BUT, BUT I
[02:42:07] THINK WE GOT TO WE GOT. >> INTEREST RATES NEARING SEVEN.
[02:42:11] THE LAST REAL ESTATE REPORTS HAVE BEEN LOUSY. AND JUST LIKE
[02:42:14] WITH, UH, JOHN MCCAIN, THEY COULDN'T HOLD IT OFF UNTIL THE
[02:42:17] ELECTION. I THINK I THINK IT MAY
[02:42:19] START BEFORE THEN, BUT THE LAST
[02:42:22] FEW REAL ESTATE REPORTS HAVE BEEN. IT'S LIKE SHUTTING DOWN
[02:42:25] WITH INTEREST RATES NEARING MORTGAGES, NEARING 7%. SO, YEAH,
[02:42:28] IT'S A RACE. WE'LL SEE WHO WHAT HAPPENS FIRST. >> AND THEN.
[02:42:32] >> YESTERDAY. >> YESTERDAY IN JACKSON HOLE. KEVIN WARSH SAYING THAT, YOU
[02:42:36] KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO PROBABLY HAVE TO RAISE INTEREST RATES BECAUSE INFLATION DOES NOT SEEM
[02:42:39] TO BE ABATING, WHICH IS NOT A MYSTERY. >> I THINK THAT SIGNAL THAT, YOU
[02:42:43] KNOW, TO ALL THE BIG GUYS, OKAY, LET'S UNLOAD ON EVERYBODY ELSE
[02:42:47] SO WE CAN BUY IT LOWER. BUT WE'LL SEE. >> THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT. GRANT, THANKS FOR THE CALL. GOOD TO
[02:42:50] HEAR FROM YOU. APPRECIATE IT. HENRY IN CICERO, ILLINOIS. HEY,
[02:42:53] HENRY, WHAT'S ON YOUR MIND TODAY? >> HEY, TOM. THANK YOU FOR
[02:42:56] EVERYTHING YOU DO, MAN. YOU'RE THE BEST. >> THANK YOU.
[02:43:00] >> I'M, UH, WONDERING ABOUT THE
[02:43:02] MAIL IN VOTES. I KNOW THE POST
[02:43:04] OFFICE IS SUPPOSED TO SHARE THE
[02:43:07] INFORMATION, BUT COULDN'T I
[02:43:11] KNOW IT'D HAVE TO GO THROUGH THEIR CONSTITUTIONS AND EVERYTHING, BUT CHANGE IT WHERE
[02:43:14] YOU COULD USE FEDEX OR UPS. OR
[02:43:17] USPS. I MEAN. >> THEY WOULDN'T BE. THEY
[02:43:21] WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO AFFORD IT. HENRY. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, FEDEX IS GOING TO CHARGE YOU TEN BUCKS
[02:43:24] TO DELIVER SOMETHING TO YOUR HOUSE. THE POST OFFICE WILL DO
[02:43:26] IT FOR $0.50. UH, YOU KNOW, IT
[02:43:29] WOULD JUST BE IMPRACTICAL
[02:43:33] ECONOMICALLY. AND, AND FEDEX AND UPS ARE NOT SET UP TO HANDLE
[02:43:36] THAT KIND OF A VOLUME. I MEAN, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW,
[02:43:39] MILLIONS OF PIECES OF, OF, UH, YOU KNOW, PACKAGES, ESSENTIALLY,
[02:43:42] THESE WOULD BE PIECES OF MAIL, BUT FROM THEIR POINT OF VIEW
[02:43:46] WOULD BE PACKAGES THAT ARE SUDDENLY FLOWING INTO THE SYSTEM. IT'S JUST NOT DESIGNED
[02:43:49] FOR THAT. THE POST OFFICE IS. >> THAT'S AMAZING WHAT HE'S
[02:43:53] DONE TO THE POST OFFICE, THOUGH. IT'S A SHAME. >> OH, YEAH. AND LOUIS DEJOY,
[02:43:56] YOU KNOW, TEARING UP 120 OF THESE MULTI-MILLION DOLLAR HIGH
[02:44:00] SPEED SORTING MACHINES JUST
[02:44:04] BEFORE THE BEFORE THE 2022 2024 ELECTION? I THINK IT WAS. NO. THE 2020 ELECTION.
[02:44:07] >> NO. ANYBODY ELSE CAME UP WITH IT. BUT I SAID NO. JOY WITH
[02:44:11] DEJOY. >> YEAH, YEAH. >> THERE YOU GO. THERE YOU GO. HENRY. THANKS FOR THE CALL. >> ANOTHER QUICK THING.
[02:44:15] >> YEAH. >> GO AHEAD. MY, MY GREAT GREAT
[02:44:19] GRANDFATHER CAME TO CHICAGO IN
[02:44:22] 1872 FROM PRUSSIA. AND THEY WERE
[02:44:28] INSTRUMENTAL. HE WAS A TAILOR,
[02:44:29] BUT THEY TOLD HIM, YOU KNOW, THEY MAKE SUITS ON MACHINES
[02:44:33] HERE. SO THEY TOLD HIM THAT YOU COULD DO BETTER AS BEING A
[02:44:36] LABORER. WELL, THEY ORGANIZE THE
[02:44:40] LABORERS AND HE'S BURIED WITH
[02:44:43] THE COMMUNISTS OUT HERE IN FOREST HOME CEMETERY. >> WOW.
[02:44:47] >> UM, YEAH, I'M PROUD TO BE A SOCIALIST
[02:44:51] >> CHICAGO'S BEEN A HOTBED OF UNION ACTIVITY SINCE. SINCE THE
[02:44:54] MID 19th CENTURY. I MEAN, IT'S JUST HUGE.
[02:44:55] >> I MEAN, IBEW LOCAL 134
[02:44:59] ELECTRICIAN FOR 45 YEARS. >> OH, GOOD ON YOU. MY, MY, MY
[02:45:02] ONE BROTHER WHO'S PASSED AWAY. STANLEY, UH, WAS IBEW HIS WHOLE
[02:45:05] LIFE. AND, UH. >> I'M 65. I COULD NEVER
[02:45:09] RETIRED WITHOUT THEIR HELP. >> YEP. THERE YOU GO. GO UNIONS.
[02:45:12] I'M A UNION MEMBER. BOTH OF MY OTHER BROTHERS ARE UNION MEMBERS. UH, WELL, THEY'RE BOTH
[02:45:16] RETIRED NOW, BUT THEY WERE, AND, UH, YEAH, ON WE GO. HENRY, I
[02:45:20] GOTTA MOVE ALONG. BUT THANK YOU FOR THE CALL.
[02:45:22] >> REAL QUICK. ONE THING YOU
[02:45:24] KNOW, I, I MISSED IT. THANKS, TOM. YOU'RE WELCOME. THANK YOU. BYE.
[02:45:28] >> OKAY. THANK YOU. JIMMY IN ARKADELPHIA, ARKANSAS. HEY,
[02:45:32] JIMMY, WHAT'S ON YOUR MIND
[02:45:34] TODAY
[02:45:37] >> THANK YOU. WHAT I WANTED TO
[02:45:38] MENTION WAS THE CUTS THAT THE
[02:45:43] REPUBLICANS AND THE TRUMP NOT
[02:45:46] ONLY THE AMOUNT OF
[02:45:56] CANDY. YEAH. BUT IT SEEMS FUNNY
[02:45:59] THAT, UM THEM TO GET FOOD
[02:46:01] THAT'S TOO HEALTHY. THEY DON'T
[02:46:03] WANT TO GIVE THEM EXTRA MONEY TO
[02:46:06] BUY
[02:46:16] OKAY. TO THEM. YEAH, BUT NO AND
[02:46:19] VEGETABLES IS NOT. YEAH, THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I WANTED.
[02:46:21] >> YEAH. AND THESE GUYS CLAIM TO BE SUPER CHRISTIANS, AND THEY'VE
[02:46:25] NEVER READ MATTHEW 25 OR THE SERMON ON THE MOUNT. UM, IT IS,
[02:46:29] UH, YOU KNOW, WHERE JESUS SAID, YOU KNOW, FEED THE HUNGRY
[02:46:32] PEOPLE, RIGHT? THAT'S YOUR NUMBER ONE JOB. UM, JIMMY. THANK
[02:46:34] YOU. WELL SAID, WELL SAID. I APPRECIATE THE.
[02:46:38] >> CALL. >> UH, IT >> [MUSIC] >> IS 44.5 MINUTES PAST THE HOUR. I'LL BE BACK WITH MORE OF
[02:46:41] YOUR CALLS IN JUST A MINUTE. >> STAY WITH US.
[02:46:46] >> [MUSIC]
[02:46:57] >> YOU'RE LISTENING TO TOM HARTMAN. VISIT TOM HOMAN .COM FOR AUDIO AND VIDEO ARCHIVES.
[02:47:01] >> HEY. >> IT'S THE PLACE WHERE WE DARE TO ASK, IS WALMART A PERSON? AND
[02:47:04] WE DARE TO SAY NO. THE REPUBLICANS ON THE SUPREME COURT
[02:47:07] LIED TO YOU ABOUT THAT ONE, TOO
[02:47:13] >> [MUSIC] [MUSIC]
[02:47:21] >> AND WELCOME BACK, ED IN
[02:47:24] BELFAIR, WASHINGTON. HEY, WHAT'S UP?
[02:47:26] >> THANK YOU FOR TAKING MY CALL. SURE. UM, THIS IS JUST JUST TO
[02:47:29] LIGHTEN UP THE MOOD A LITTLE BIT. I KNOW IT'S BEEN A LITTLE
[02:47:33] BEEN PRETTY ROUGH HERE LATELY, BUT, UH, WITH THAT EXECUTIVE
[02:47:37] ORDER CHANGE IN LAKE ONTARIO TO
[02:47:39] LAKE AMERICA, I THINK THE HANDMADE STEPHEN MILLER HANDED,
[02:47:43] UH, THE BIG FELLA ANOTHER EXECUTIVE ORDER CHANGING THE
[02:47:47] U.S. OF A TO THE USSR, BECAUSE
[02:47:49] HE MISSES IT SO MUCH UH, BUT IF
[02:47:53] I MAY ADD, TOM, CAN WE PLEASE,
[02:47:57] UM, OVERTURN THE MONEY
[02:47:59] LAUNDERING BUSINESS OF CITIZENS UNITED, PLEASE? >> OH, YEAH. YEAH, THIS IS, THIS
[02:48:03] IS. IT'S THE CANCER ON OUR ON
[02:48:05] OUR POLITICAL SYSTEM. IT IS
[02:48:08] LEGALIZING. >> EVERY WEEKEND.
[02:48:11] >> PARDON? >> YES. LEGALIZING BRAVERY.
[02:48:14] IT'S IT'S MONEY LAUNDERING. YEAH. >> IT TRULY IS. >> HAVE A GREAT WEEKEND.
[02:48:18] >> OKAY. OH THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY. >> MUCH FOR YOUR VOICE. >> SURE ENOUGH. AND THANKS FOR
[02:48:21] YOUR KIND WORDS. NICE TO HEAR FROM YOU. UH, STEVE, IN NEW
[02:48:23] BOSTON, MICHIGAN. HEY, STEVE.
[02:48:27] WHAT'S UP
[02:48:30] >> TOM. UH, TODAY'S CALL IS IN REGARDS THAT, UH, WATCHING, UH,
[02:48:32] THESE ADS, UH, CAMPAIGN ADS ON
[02:48:35] TV HERE IN MICHIGAN. WE GOT A GUY. WE GOT A GUY NAMED MIKE
[02:48:39] ROGERS WHO'S RUNNING FOR SENATE AGAINST ABDUL EL-SAYED WRIGHT.
[02:48:41] BY THE WAY, HE WON'T DEBATE ABDUL, YOU KNOW, WE, OF COURSE NOT SEE HIM GET ON DEBATE, BUT
[02:48:45] I'M WATCHING ONE OF HIS ADS. TOM AND MIKE IS SAYING, ELECT
[02:48:49] ME, AND I'M GONNA LOWER THE PRICE OF GROCERIES. I'M GOING TO
[02:48:51] LOWER THE PRICE OF GAS. I'M
[02:48:55] GOING TO INCREASE EVERYONE'S WAGES. I'M GOING TO DO AWAY
[02:48:56] WITH PROPERTY TAX. WELL, LET'S
[02:48:59] REMIND OURSELVES THAT SINCE 2024, THE REPUBLICAN PARTY HAS
[02:49:02] BEEN IN COMPLETE CONTROL OF OUR GOVERNMENT, AND THEY HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING BUT THE OPPOSITE
[02:49:05] OF WHAT THIS GUY CAMPAIGNS THAT HE'S SAYING HE'S GOING TO DO.
[02:49:09] HE'S FULL OF Bs HE'S NOT GOING TO DO ANY OF THOSE THINGS. >> IT'S A CHICKEN IN EVERY.
[02:49:13] >> POT FOR THE PEOPLE HERE IN MICHIGAN. YEAH, YEAH. SO I'M CALLING THIS OUT FOR ALL THE
[02:49:17] VOTERS HERE IN MICHIGAN. PAY ATTENTION. THIS GUY'S NOT GOING
[02:49:20] TO GIVE YOU ANY OF THESE THINGS. BOELTER ABDUL. HE'S GOING TO
[02:49:24] HELP US. HE'S SOMEBODY WHO'S ON OUR SIDE. BUT PAY ATTENTION
[02:49:28] TO THESE ADS, BECAUSE THESE REPUBLICANS ARE NOTHING BUT A BUNCH OF LIARS. CON ARTISTS, YOU
[02:49:31] KNOW, SHOWMAN. THAT'S ALL THEY ARE. >> AND THAT'S ALL THEY'VE BEEN
[02:49:34] SINCE THE REAGAN ADMINISTRATION. YOU KNOW, WHEN REAGAN PROMISED
[02:49:38] US, OH, LET'S JUST GIVE ALL THIS MONEY TO THE RICH PEOPLE, AND IT'LL TRICKLE DOWN ON YOU.
[02:49:40] AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE PEEING ON YOU
[02:49:43] AND TELLING YOU IT'S RAINING. I MEAN, IT'S JUST, IT'S. YEAH.
[02:49:46] STEVEN. STEVE. WELL SAID. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
[02:49:49] >> THEY SAY, THEY SAY, UH,
[02:49:51] THEY'RE AGAINST WOKE, ALWAYS
[02:49:57] AGAINST WOKE. WELL, I'M FOR WAKE. WAKE UP, EVERYBODY WAKE UP AND SMELL THE COFFEE. COME ON. THIS IS RIDICULOUS. YEAH, WE'RE
[02:50:00] SMARTER AND WE'RE BETTER THAN THIS. >> STEVE, ARE THE, UH. >> OKAY.
[02:50:04] >> JUST KNOW, BEFORE YOU GO, I'VE GOT. I GOT A QUESTION. YOU
[02:50:07] KNOW, I GREW UP IN MICHIGAN. IT'S. I'M KIND OF CURIOUS ABOUT
[02:50:11] THIS. UM, WHAT WHAT IS THE
[02:50:12] FREQUENCY OF THE ADS THAT YOU'RE
[02:50:16] SEEING ON TV FOR ABDUL EL-SAYED FOR DR. EL-SAYED VERSUS MIKE
[02:50:19] ROGERS. ARE YOU BEING OVERWHELMED BY ROGERS ADS OR ARE THEY BOTH. ARE THEY COMPETITIVE
[02:50:23] IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, THE
[02:50:25] NUMBER >> BUT. >> YEAH, BASICALLY WHAT IT IS, IS ONE WILL COME ON AND THE
[02:50:29] OTHER WILL COME ON RIGHT BEHIND IT. AND EITHER WILL BE A POSITIVE AD FOR THEMSELVES OR A
[02:50:33] NEGATIVE AD AGAINST THE OTHER ONE. YEAH. HEY, I GOT A QUESTION
[02:50:36] FOR YOU, THOUGH. YOU SAY YOUR
[02:50:39] FAMILY IS IBEW. >> MY BROTHER WAS MY BROTHER, STANLEY.
[02:50:43] >> WAS OUT HERE IN MICHIGAN.
[02:50:45] >> YEAH, YEAH. LANSING.
[02:50:47] >> MY MY GREAT UNCLE HELPED TO ORGANIZE IBEW LOCAL 58.
[02:50:51] >> OH, REALLY? I WONDER IF THAT
[02:50:53] WAS STAN'S LOCAL. I DON'T KNOW THE NUMBER.
[02:50:57] >> YEAH, MY DAD WAS IBEW. HIS BROTHER WAS TWO OF THEIR UNCLES
[02:51:01] WERE. >> I ADDRESSED THEIR NATIONAL CONVENTION ABOUT.
[02:51:05] >> TEN YEARS. UNION FAMILY.
[02:51:07] >> YEAH. I ADDRESSED THE IBEW NATIONAL CONVENTION ABOUT TEN
[02:51:10] YEARS AGO. I GAVE THE KEYNOTE SPEECH. SO IT'S A GREAT UNION. IT'S JUST AN ABSOLUTELY GREAT
[02:51:13] UNION. STEVE, THANKS A LOT. NICE
[02:51:15] TO HEAR FROM YOU. IT'S, UH, WHAT TIME IS IT? 1249 MINUTES PAST
[02:51:19] THE HOUR. WE'LL BE BACK IN 60s.
[02:51:23] >> [MUSIC]
[02:51:31] >> JOIN C-SPAN 2 AT 6 P.M. EASTERN FOR MARATHON PROGRAMING,
[02:51:34] HIGHLIGHTING SOME OF THE MOST CONSEQUENTIAL, COMPELLING, AND
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[02:51:41] COURT JUSTICES DISCUSSING THEIR LIVES, THE CONSTITUTION, THE
[02:51:45] COURT, AND WHAT IT MEANS TO SERVE ON THE NATION'S HIGHEST
[02:51:48] COURT. WATCH A MARATHON OF
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[02:52:01] SUNDAY ON C-SPAN. TWO FEATURES LEADING AUTHORS DISCUSSING THEIR
[02:52:05] LATEST NONFICTION BOOKS. HERE'S A LOOK AT WHAT'S COMING UP THIS
[02:52:09] WEEKEND AT 1:45 P.M. EASTERN. JOANNA STERN WITH HER BOOK I AM
[02:52:12] NOT A ROBOT, DESCRIBES THE YEAR
[02:52:15] SHE SPENT USING AI AND ROBOTS IN
[02:52:17] ALL ASPECTS OF HER LIFE. THEN
[02:52:21] AUTHOR AND ACTIVIST CORY DOCTOROW AND HIS BOOK, THE REVERSE CENTAUR'S GUIDE TO LIFE
[02:52:25] AFTER AI, HE OFFERS GUIDANCE ON HANDLING THE INTRODUCTION OF AI
[02:52:28] INTO OUR LIVES AND WORK. AT 5:45
[02:52:30] P.M. EASTERN, ALSO AT 10:30
[02:52:33] P.M., JOURNALIST ANNIE JACOBSEN, AUTHOR OF THE BEST SELLING BOOK
[02:52:36] BIOLOGICAL WAR A SCENARIO,
[02:52:40] EXPLORES HOW THE RELEASE OF A BIOLOGICAL WEAPON COULD PLAY OUT
[02:52:42] ON A GLOBAL SCALE. INSIGHTFUL
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[02:52:50] WATCH BOOK TV EVERY SUNDAY ON C-SPAN 2. AND FIND A FULL SCHEDULE ON YOUR PROGRAM GUIDE,
[02:52:53] OR WATCH ONLINE ANYTIME AT
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[02:52:58] >> WHAT'S ON YOUR MIND TODAY
[02:53:04] >> MIND IS TRUMP'S NARCISSISM, UM, NARCISSISM. UM, EVERYTHING
[02:53:07] HE'S DONE IS REFLECTIVE OF A NARCISSISTIC PERSONALITY.
[02:53:11] >> AGREED. >> INCLUDING WITH HIS STOP. WITH
[02:53:13] HIS STAFF, WITH OTHER COUNTRIES.
[02:53:16] CANADA RIGHT NOW. PARTICULAR.
[02:53:19] AND I'M, I'M A LITTLE BIT
[02:53:20] DISMAYED BY THE LACK OF DEMOCRAT
[02:53:25] PSYCHOLOGICAL PROFESSORS. UM, PROFESSIONALS AND A LOT OF OTHER
[02:53:27] PEOPLE THAT CAN MIRROR IN ON THE FACT THAT WHEN THIS ELECTION
[02:53:30] COMES UP AND HE LOSES THE AMOUNT
[02:53:33] OF DAMAGE AND THE AMOUNT OF HARM
[02:53:36] HE WILL CAUSE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AND EVERYBODY ELSE AROUND THE COUNTRY OR THE WORLD,
[02:53:40] BECAUSE HE DIDN'T WIN. >> YEAH. >> HE CAN'T BE SEEN AS LOSING. >> I'M VERY WORRIED. >> ABOUT.
[02:53:44] >> THAT, JEFF. ALTHOUGH HE'LL
[02:53:46] BLAME THE REPUBLICANS FOR IT BECAUSE HE'S NOT ON THE TICKET.
[02:53:49] SO IT WILL BE A LITTLE SOFTER.
[02:53:53] BUT I'M CONCERNED THAT HE OR THEY ARE GOING TO TRY TO DO SOMETHING REALLY RADICAL. AND,
[02:53:56] YOU KNOW, BASICALLY PULL A
[02:53:58] PUTIN, YOU KNOW.
[02:54:01] >> YES, DEFINITELY. BECAUSE I
[02:54:03] DON'T THINK WE'RE WOKE UP TO THE FACT THAT HOW DANGEROUS HE
[02:54:07] IS. WE KEEP ACTING LIKE HE'S STILL A CEO. WE'RE NOT ACTING
[02:54:09] LIKE HE'S THE PRESIDENT OF THE
[02:54:13] COUNTRY, REPRESENTING ALL OF US.
[02:54:15] AND IT'S REALLY A STUNNING THAT OUR METHODOLOGY IS BASICALLY SAY, WELL, YOU KNOW, LET THEM
[02:54:18] LET HIM DO WHAT HE'S DOING. AND,
[02:54:20] AND NOT REALLY PEGGING DOWN THE FACT THAT WHAT HE'S DOING IS
[02:54:24] SICK. YEAH, IT'S MENTALLY ILL. AND THAT NEEDS TO BE BROUGHT OUT
[02:54:27] STRONGER AND STRONGER. IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ANY ABILITY TO
[02:54:30] NEUTER HIM TO THE LAST TWO YEARS OF HIS PRESIDENCY.
[02:54:34] >> WELL SAID. COMPLETELY AGREE. JEFF. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THAT
[02:54:37] WAS VERY WELL SAID. DENNIS. IN ROBELINE, LOUISIANA. HEY,
[02:54:40] DENNIS. WHAT'S UP? >> HI, HOWARD. I'M DOING GOOD.
[02:54:44] MAN
[02:54:56] , AND PEOPLE LOSE FAITH. MHM.
[02:54:57] WHEN YOU TAKE ALL THE MONEY,
[02:55:01] AMERICA HAVE AND START SHOVELING
[02:55:03] AROUND FOR YOUR OWN BENEFIT WANT
[02:55:09] TO RAISE THE WALL AND THE SADDEST THING, I'M GOING TO TELL
[02:55:13] ME WHAT THE IT'S GOING TO BE A
[02:55:18] BAD THING IN HERE, MAN. >> YEAH. >> YEAH. >> AND ALL I CAN SAY FOR
[02:55:22] AMERICAN PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, UH, THEY HAVEN'T PRAYED SINCE 9/11.
[02:55:25] YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE, GOD DON'T
[02:55:26] EVEN EXIST ANYMORE IN AMERICA.
[02:55:34] THING THAT'S GOING ON. I JUST
[02:55:36] PRAY TO GOD THAT, UH, THEIR
[02:55:39] SENSES AND REALIZE WHAT'S GOING ON. THAT'S THE. >> I'M WITH YOU, DENNIS. I'M
[02:55:43] WITH YOU. VERY WELL SAID. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. LOVE YOUR
[02:55:46] ACCENT. BY THE WAY, GABRIEL, IN,
[02:55:48] UH, GABRIEL IN LYNNWOOD,
[02:55:53] WASHINGTON. HEY, WHAT'S UP?
[02:56:04] >> UM, I CALL THEM THE RED TEAM.
[02:56:06] UM, I, I HAD AN INCIDENT WHERE
[02:56:09] ON INSTAGRAM, I POSTED SOMETHING
[02:56:11] ABOUT PEOPLE WITH BIG FANCY
[02:56:14] TRUCKS MUST BE PRIVILEGED HAD SO
[02:56:19] MANY COMMENTS. AND A LOT OF PEOPLE WERE VERY ANGRY WITH ME,
[02:56:24] CALLING KNOW, UGLY OLD, YOU
[02:56:28] KNOW, PATHETIC, STUPID. SURE. UM
[02:56:42] CALL US REPUBLICANS AND REPUGS.
[02:56:43] >> AND >> TEAM.
[02:56:47] >> I LIKE THAT IDEA. I LIKE THAT IDEA. GABRIELLE. I LIKE THAT, THAT'S.
[02:56:51] >> IT SOFTENS MY HEART. IT DOES SOFTEN MY HEART. AND I HAVE A
[02:56:54] FRIEND WHO'S A BUDDHIST MONK, AND HE SAYS, YOU KNOW, IT'S ALL
[02:56:57] ABOUT LOVE, MAN. AND SO WITH DOLLY PARTON. >> SO THERE YOU GO. GABRIELLE.
[02:57:01] BRILLIANT. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR SHARING THAT. >> AND MY BEST, MY BEST OUT HERE.
[02:57:05] >> YOU SURE ARE. THANK YOU. RITA
[02:57:07] IN MISSOULA, MONTANA. HEY, RITA.
[02:57:10] WHAT'S ON YOUR MIND TODAY
[02:57:17] >> RESPONSE TO THE WOMAN WHO, UH, FROM MICHIGAN, WHO CALLED, CONCERNED ABOUT HER FRIEND AND
[02:57:21] HIS FEAR ABOUT SHARIA LAW UM,
[02:57:23] JUST, UM, REMEMBER THAT WE HAVE
[02:57:26] THE FIRST AMENDMENT, AND, UH,
[02:57:30] THE FEAR WE NEED TO HAVE RIGHT NOW IS THAT ANY RELIGION IS
[02:57:33] USING THAT AS A LITMUS TEST. FOR
[02:57:36] EXAMPLE, THE PEOPLE THAT ARE TRYING TO IMPOSE, UM, CHRISTIAN,
[02:57:39] MAKING AMERICA A CHRISTIAN NATION.
[02:57:43] >> WRIGHT CHRISTIAN LAW, ESSENTIALLY. >> FIRST AMENDMENT TELLS US
[02:57:46] EXACTLY. UM, THE FIRST AMENDMENT
[02:57:48] LETS AGAINST MY RELIGION. IT
[02:57:53] DOESN'T DO THAT. IT'S AGAINST
[02:57:57] MY RELIGION. SO AS LONG AS WE DON'T VOTE FOR PEOPLE THAT
[02:58:00] MAKE, UH, RELIGION A LITMUS
[02:58:02] TEST, I THINK WILL BE OKAY. >> YEAH. AND NOBODY'S GOING TO
[02:58:06] IMPOSE SHARIA LAW ON ANYBODY, SO. YEAH. WELL SAID. RITA, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THAT WAS.
[02:58:09] ABSOLUTELY THAT WAS EXCELLENT. THANK YOU. JUDY IN CHICAGO,
[02:58:12] JUDY, YOU GOT THE LAST 30s. YOU
[02:58:14] GOT A QUICK ONE.
[02:58:17] >> OKAY. SURE, SURE, SURE SAID
[02:58:22] BEFORE THE ELECTION IN 2024. HE
[02:58:25] SAID, PURPOSELY, WE'RE GOING TO
[02:58:27] PURPOSELY TANK THE ECONOMY TO
[02:58:30] MAKE IT BETTER. MHM. IT'S LIKE, YEAH, BETTER FOR WHO? RIGHT. SO
[02:58:33] LIKE YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT HOW,
[02:58:35] UH THEY BUY UP EVERYTHING, BUT
[02:58:38] THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE, YOU KNOW?
[02:58:43] YEAH. EVERYBODY EVERY STORY, EVERY QUOTE. >> THERE YOU GO.
[02:58:46] >> THERE'S >> GET READY. IN OTHER WORDS,
[02:58:48] JUDY. THANK YOU. SPOT ON. AND THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US
[02:58:51] TODAY. AND SPECIAL THANKS TO LOUISE HARTMAN, SEAN TAYLOR,
[02:58:55] JAMIE, HOLLY, NIGEL PEACOCK, STUDENT ADVOCATE. PATRICK HOYT, GERALYN HALBERT, RON
[02:58:59] HARMAN-BOEHM, CHASE MILLER, PAT SWEENEY, JEREMY. PETERSON,
[02:59:02] CONNOR ARROYO, CARNEY VERDE,
[02:59:05] JOSIAH WESTER, MARTHA. SALINAS, MATEO. ROBERTSON, DIANE. RUSSELL, REUBEN MICHAELS, ALL
[02:59:09] THE FINE PEOPLE WHO WORK ON THIS PROGRAM AND HELP BRING IT TO YOU. THANK YOU FOR SHARING THE
[02:59:13] GOOD WORD ABOUT OUR PROGRAM WITH YOUR FRIENDS AND NEIGHBORS. AND GET OUT THERE, GET ACTIVE. HAVE
[02:59:17] A WONDERFUL WEEKEND. STAY SAFE.
[02:59:20] BE GOOD. I'LL CATCH UP WITH YOU ON MONDAY. TAG. YOU'RE IT. SEE
[02:59:24] YOU MONDAY. >> YOU'VE BEEN LISTENING TO
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[02:59:38] WITH THE HOWIE CARR SHOW AND HIS CONSERVATIVE TAKE ON MAJOR NEWS
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[02:59:57] >> IN MY COAT OF MANY COLORS, I
[03:00:00] HURRIED OFF TO SCHOOL JUST TO
[03:00:03] FIND THE OTHERS LAUGHING AND MAKING FUN OF ME IN MY COAT OF
[03:00:05] MANY COLORS THAT MAMA MADE FOR
[03:00:10] ME. IN MY COAT OF MANY ME. MADE
[03:00:16] ONLY FROM RAGS. BUT I WORE IT SO
[03:00:19] PROUDLY. AND ALTHOUGH WE HAD NO
[03:00:23] MONEY, I WAS RICH AS I COULD BE.
[03:00:27] IN MY COAT OF MANY COLORS. MAMA
[03:00:30] MADE FOR ME. >> DOLLY PARTON. READING AND
[03:00:34] SINGING TO CHILDREN. IN A 2018
[03:00:36] APPEARANCE ON C-SPAN, THE TENNESSEE NATIVE, WHO DIED THIS
[03:00:40] WEEK AT THE AGE OF 80, HAS DONATED MORE THAN 300 MILLION
[03:00:43] BOOKS TO CHILDREN. AS PART OF
[03:00:45] HER IMAGINATION LIBRARY PROGRAM.
[03:00:49] ON SATURDAY, WE'LL REMEMBER THE LIFE AND LEGACY OF DOLLY PARTON
[03:00:52] THROUGH HER APPEARANCES ON
[03:00:54] C-SPAN. WATCH AT 8 P.M. EASTERN.