CSPAN2 — The Thom Hartmann Program
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[00:00:01] WORKING TO PUBLICLY CREATE A
[00:00:03] NATIONAL DISCUSSION ABOUT THE FACT THAT MOST DECISIONS ARE
[00:00:06] MADE IN THE PRIMARIES, NOT IN THE GENERAL ELECTION. OUR
[00:00:09] GENERAL ELECTIONS HAVE BECOME SO UNCOMPETITIVE. IT'S KIND OF A
[00:00:14] NATIONAL EMBARRASSMENT. >> SO TALK TO US ABOUT HOW YOU
[00:00:16] GOT TO THIS WORK, YOUR OWN PROFESSIONAL BACKGROUND IN
[00:00:19] ELECTORAL POLITICS AND ADVOCACY FOR INDEPENDENT VOTERS.
[00:00:23] >> YEAH, I COME OUT OF THE THIRD PARTY MOVEMENT. I GOT INVOLVED
[00:00:26] IN DEMOCRACY WORK, IN CREATING ALTERNATIVE POLITICAL PARTIES
[00:00:29] BACK IN THE LATE 80s, EARLY 90s, I WAS PART OF THE PEROT
[00:00:32] MOVEMENT. I HELPED GET MIKE BLOOMBERG ELECTED AS AN
[00:00:36] INDEPENDENT IN NEW YORK CITY,
[00:00:38] AND WE HAD SOME PHENOMENAL, UH,
[00:00:43] EXPERIMENTS AND SOME TREMENDOUS
[00:00:45] FAILURES. AND ONE OF THE THINGS
[00:00:48] THAT WHEN PEROT GOT 20 MILLION
[00:00:50] VOTES BACK IN 1992, IT REALLY SHOOK THINGS UP, UH, BOTH GOOD
[00:00:53] AND BAD, AND CREATED AN
[00:00:56] ENVIRONMENT IN WHICH THE, THE DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS REALLY DON'T WANT.
[00:00:59] >> WE'RE GOING TO BREAK AWAY FROM THIS HERE TO BRING YOU A SIMULCAST OF THE THOM HARTMANN
[00:01:03] PROGRAM FROM PORTLAND, OREGON. THIS IS LIVE ON C-SPAN.
[00:01:06] >> TWO STARTS IN SIX MINUTES. OUR RADIO STATIONS AROUND THE
[00:01:10] COUNTRY ARE IN THEIR NEWS BREAK RIGHT NOW. SO I JUST WANTED TO TALK TO, TO YOU FOLKS WHO ARE
[00:01:14] WATCHING US ON C-SPAN. UH, TODAY
[00:01:15] IS COLUMBUS DAY. UH, ALSO
[00:01:20] INDIGENOUS PERSONS OR INDIGENOUS AMERICANS DAY. UM, HOWEVER,
[00:01:23] THEY'RE CALLING IT. AND I THINK IT'S WORTH REMEMBERING, YOU
[00:01:25] KNOW, WHAT HAPPENED WHEN
[00:01:28] COLUMBUS LANDED THIS, THIS GREAT
[00:01:30] HERO. UH, AND I SAY THAT
[00:01:32] SARCASTICALLY, THAT WHEN COLUMBUS LANDED IN HISPANOLA,
[00:01:36] UM, YOU KNOW WHAT IS NOW, UH,
[00:01:41] THE DOMINICAN REPUBLIC AND HAITI, UM, HE SAID WHEN OUR
[00:01:44] SHIPS WERE TO LEAVE FOR SPAIN,
[00:01:48] THIS IS THEY GATHERED WHEN, WHEN HE AND HIS CREW ARRIVED, THIS WAS ON THEIR, THEIR SECOND
[00:01:52] VISIT. UH, THEY CAME WITH ENOUGH
[00:01:53] CANNONS, GUNS, AND SWORDS TO TAKE CAPTIVE 1600 LOCAL
[00:01:57] VILLAGERS WHO HAD COME OUT TO
[00:01:59] GREET THEM. UH, MIGUEL QUINONES,
[00:02:01] WHO WAS A MEMBER, PROBABLY ONE
[00:02:04] OF THE MOST LITERATE MEMBER OF,
[00:02:07] OF COLUMBUS CREW. HE KEPT EXTENSIVE DIARIES. HE WROTE,
[00:02:11] QUOTE, WHEN OUR SHIPS WERE TO LEAVE FOR SPAIN, WE GATHERED
[00:02:15] 1600 MALE AND FEMALE PERSONS OF THOSE INDIANS. AND OF THESE WE
[00:02:18] EMBARKED IN OUR SHIPS ON FEBRUARY 17th, 1495. FOR THOSE
[00:02:21] WHO REMAINED. HE'S TALKING ABOUT THE SPANIARDS. UH, WE LET IT BE
[00:02:25] KNOWN, UH, IN THE VICINITY, THAT
[00:02:27] ANYONE WHO WANTED TO TAKE SOME OF THEM COULD DO SO TO THE
[00:02:31] AMOUNT DESIRED, WHICH WAS DONE.
[00:02:34] HE NOTED THAT COLUMBUS HAD GIVEN
[00:02:36] HIM A PARTICULARLY BEAUTIFUL,
[00:02:40] UH, TEENAGE GIRL AS HIS PERSONAL
[00:02:43] SLAVE. AND HE WROTE THAT WHEN HE ATTEMPTED TO HAVE SEX WITH HER,
[00:02:45] SHE, QUOTE, RESISTED WITH ALL HER STRENGTH. SO IN HIS OWN
[00:02:49] WORDS, HE, QUOTE, THRASHED HER
[00:02:53] MERCILESSLY AND RAPED HER. HE WROTE THIS IN HIS DIARY, WRIGHT.
[00:02:56] HE'S PROUD OF THIS. UH, AS A
[00:03:01] REWARD, COLUMBUS FREQUENTLY GAVE
[00:03:05] HIS MEN YOUNG TAINO GIRLS TO TO
[00:03:06] RAPE. UH, HE HE ALSO STARTED A
[00:03:11] SEX SLAVE TRADE. UH, IN FACT, HE
[00:03:12] WROTE TO A FRIEND IN, IN 1500,
[00:03:16] QUOTE, 100. CASTELLANOS, A CASTELLANO WAS A SPANISH COIN
[00:03:19] BACK THEN. 100. CASTELLANOS ARE
[00:03:21] AS EASILY OBTAINED FOR A WOMAN
[00:03:23] AS FOR A FARM. AND IT IS VERY GENERAL. AND THERE ARE PLENTY OF
[00:03:27] DEALERS WHO GO ABOUT LOOKING FOR
[00:03:28] GIRLS, THOSE
[00:04:16] FROM 9 TO 10 YEARS OLD ARE NOW THE MOST IN DEMAND. BRING HIM
[00:04:19] GOLD AND OR WHATEVER TREASURE
[00:04:21] THEY COULD FIND, PRECIOUS STONES
[00:04:25] OR WHATEVER, AND THEN HE SENT HIS MEN OUT. AND WHEN, YOU KNOW,
[00:04:29] THERE WAS BASICALLY NO GOLD
[00:04:30] THERE. UM, SO, BUT TO PUNISH THEM, HE CUT OFF THE HANDS OF A
[00:04:34] NUMBER OF THEM FOR NOT BRINGING
[00:04:39] HIM TREASURES. UM, AND, YOU KNOW, THE GOAL OF CUTTING OFF
[00:04:41] THE NOSE OR EAR WAS SO THAT THEY
[00:04:43] WOULD GO BACK TO THE VILLAGE AND
[00:04:46] IMPRESS EVERYBODY ELSE WITH COLUMBUS'S BRUTALITY. UH,
[00:04:50] COLUMBUS AND HIS MEN ATTACKED THE TAINO WITH DOGS. THEY
[00:04:54] SKEWERED THEM ON POLES FROM TO
[00:04:56] MOUTH, AND SHOT THEM.
[00:04:59] EVENTUALLY, LIFE FOR THE TAINO
[00:05:00] BECAME SO UNBEARABLE THAT AS
[00:05:03] PEDRO DE CORDOBA, ANOTHER PERSON
[00:05:07] WHO WAS PART OF THE EXPEDITION, WROTE TO KING FERDINAND IN A
[00:05:10] 1517 LETTER, QUOTE, AS A RESULT
[00:05:13] OF THE SUFFERINGS AND HARD LABOR
[00:05:15] THEY ENDURED, THE INDIANS CHOOSE AND HAVE CHOSEN SUICIDE.
[00:05:19] OCCASIONALLY, A HUNDRED HAVE COMMITTED MASS SUICIDE. THE
[00:05:22] WOMEN, EXHAUSTED BY LABOR, HAVE SHUNNED CONCEPTION AND
[00:05:26] CHILDBIRTH. MANY, WHEN PREGNANT, HAVE TAKEN SOMETHING TO ABORT
[00:05:29] AND HAVE ABORTED. OTHERS AFTER
[00:05:31] DELIVERY, HAVE KILLED THEIR CHILDREN WITH THEIR OWN HANDS,
[00:05:34] SO AS NOT TO LEAVE THEM IN SUCH
[00:05:38] OPPRESSIVE SLAVERY. AND, OF COURSE, SIMILAR PATTERN PLAYED OUT ON CONTINENTAL NORTH AMERICA
[00:05:42] OVER THE COURSE OF THE NEXT TWO
[00:05:45] CENTURIES. UM, ENGLISH SETTLERS FIRST TRIED TO DOMINATE THE
[00:05:49] AMERICAN TRIBES, AND THEN BEGAN
[00:05:52] IMPORTING PEOPLE FROM AFRICA TO,
[00:05:53] UH, YOU KNOW, TO, TO LIVE IN
[00:05:56] SLAVERY, TO BE ENSLAVED. AND
[00:06:00] PRIOR >> COLUMBUS'S ARRIVAL. MOST SCHOLARS PLACE THE POPULATION OF
[00:06:03] THE ISLAND. YOU KNOW, HISPANIOLA
[00:06:06] AT AROUND 300,000 PEOPLE. BY
[00:06:08] 1496, IT WAS DOWN TO 110,000.
[00:06:11] ACCORDING TO A CENSUS BY HIS OWN
[00:06:14] BROTHER, BARTHOLOMEW. COLUMBUS.
[00:06:17] BY 1516, HIS BROTHER'S CENSUS
[00:06:20] SAID THAT ONLY 12,000 OF THESE
[00:06:21] INDIANS WERE LEFT, AND PRIEST BARTOLOMÉ DE LAS CASAS, WHO WAS
[00:06:25] THERE, SAID THAT BY 1542, FEWER
[00:06:29] THAN 200 NATIVES WERE ALIVE. THE
[00:06:32] CENSUS OF 1555 FOUND EVERY
[00:06:34] SINGLE ONE DEAD. SO HAPPY
[00:06:37] COLUMBUS DAY. THE SHOW STARTS
[00:06:41] NOW.
[00:06:42] >> THIS IS THE THOM HARTMANN
[00:06:47] PROGRAM. >> [MUSIC] >> HEY, HAPPY MONDAY. HAPPY
[00:06:51] INDIGENOUS PEOPLES DAY. COLUMBUS DAY, WE CELEBRATE THE DAY OF THE
[00:06:54] GUY THAT AT LEAST TRUMP WANTS US
[00:06:58] TO CELEBRATE. THE GUY WHO WHO WAS ENSLAVING AND RAPING AND
[00:07:02] SELLING TEN YEAR OLD GIRLS. AND
[00:07:04] YEAH, YOU KNOW, HE WAS KIND OF
[00:07:06] THE ORIGINAL JEFFREY EPSTEIN. UM, SO ANYHOW, HERE WE ARE.
[00:07:09] WE'VE GOT A LOT TO TALK ABOUT
[00:07:11] TODAY IN THE NEXT THREE HOURS. BENEDICT ARNOLD SOLD OUT AMERICA
[00:07:14] ONCE AS TRUMP DOING IT AGAIN, THIS TIME FOR PUTIN. ALSO, THE
[00:07:16] WAR IS EXPANDING. THE ATTACKS ON SAUDI ARABIA ARE ABSOLUTELY
[00:07:20] BRUTAL. WHAT'S THIS GOING TO YOU KNOW, HOW IS THIS GOING TO PLAY
[00:07:23] OUT. AND A CRAZY ALERT. TRUMP MOCKS HIS SUPPORTERS RIGHT TO
[00:07:26] THEIR FACES. AND THEY APPLAUD
[00:07:28] HIM. IS THIS THE DEFINITION OF A
[00:07:31] CULT? AND THE SECOND HOUR OF OUR PROGRAM, BILL MCKIBBEN, IS GOING
[00:07:33] TO DROP BY FROM BAD TO BETTER.
[00:07:35] THE ARC OF THE PHYSICAL UNIVERSE BENDS TOWARD HEAT, BUT MAYBE WE
[00:07:39] CAN BEND IT BACK. ALSO, BREAKING
[00:07:42] NEWS. ILHAN OMAR'S DC HOME HAS
[00:07:44] BEEN REPORTEDLY RAIDED BY DHS
[00:07:47] AGENTS. ACTUALLY, THIS IS HOMELAND SECURITY
[00:07:50] INVESTIGATIONS, WHICH IS PART OF ICE. ARE THEY TRYING TO DEPORT
[00:07:54] HER? SURE LOOKS LIKE IT. AND,
[00:07:57] WELL, LAURA LOOMER IS CALLING
[00:07:58] FOR IT. UH, YOU KNOW, TYPICALLY,
[00:08:01] TRUMP DOES WHAT SHE SAYS. ALSO, TRUMP'S DOJ HAS LAUNCHED AN
[00:08:04] INVESTIGATION INTO THE NEWS NETWORKS, RAISING A CHILLING QUESTION. IS THIS ABOUT
[00:08:08] ENFORCING THE LAW OR USING THE POWER OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO INTIMIDATE AND SILENCE THE
[00:08:11] PRESS? YOU KNOW, LIKE PUTIN DOES
[00:08:14] IN THE THIRD HOUR OF OUR PROGRAM, ACTRESS OR ACTOR MIMI
[00:08:18] KENNEDY IS GOING TO DROP BY TO
[00:08:19] TALK ABOUT VOTING. UM, SHE'S,
[00:08:22] UH, WITH PROGRESSIVE DEMOCRATS OF AMERICA. AND MAGA INFLUENCERS
[00:08:26] ARE USING FAKE NEWS TO TRY TO BRING DOWN TALARICO. AND IT'S,
[00:08:29] IT'S PRETTY FREAKING
[00:08:33] OUTRAGEOUS. SO HERE WE ARE. MY OP ED TODAY, MY DAILY TAKE, YOU
[00:08:37] KNOW, PLUS, WE'LL HAVE YOUR
[00:08:38] CALLS THROUGHOUT THE DAY. UM, MY
[00:08:41] DAILY TAKE TODAY IS TITLED BENEDICT ARNOLD SOLD OUT AMERICA ONCE AS TRUMP DOING IT AGAIN,
[00:08:45] ONLY THIS TIME FOR PUTIN. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, YESTERDAY
[00:08:49] MORNING, TRUMP TOOK TO HIS NAZI INFESTED SOCIAL MEDIA SITE TO
[00:08:52] PROCLAIM THAT, UM, UH, RUSSIA
[00:08:55] AND UKRAINE HAD AGREED TO AN
[00:08:58] ENERGY CEASE FIRE IMMEDIATELY. UM, TWO THINGS HAPPENED. ONE
[00:09:01] WAS, UH, ZELENSKY CAME OUT AND
[00:09:03] SAID, I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE
[00:09:06] TALKING ABOUT. AND THEN PUTIN LAUNCHED A WHOLE NEW BARRAGE OF
[00:09:10] MISSILES AT ENERGY RESOURCES IN
[00:09:12] UKRAINE AND KILLED A BUNCH MORE PEOPLE. SO CLEARLY, UH, NEITHER
[00:09:16] ONE OF THEM, YOU KNOW, THIS IS
[00:09:19] NEWS FOR EVERYBODY. AND TRUMP HAD MADE A SIMILAR ANNOUNCEMENT,
[00:09:22] BY THE WAY, BACK IN SEPTEMBER, AND IT TURNED OUT TO BE A LIE.
[00:09:26] UH, YOU KNOW, AND ZELENSKY AND,
[00:09:28] AND PUTIN CONTINUED TO FIRE MISSILES AT EACH OTHER. UM, MY
[00:09:32] GUESS IS THAT THE REASON THAT
[00:09:34] TRUMP DID THIS SAID THIS WAS
[00:09:36] HE'S TRYING TO DISTRACT US FROM
[00:09:39] THE MOST NAKEDLY PRO-RUSSIA ACT
[00:09:41] OF ANY AMERICAN PRESIDENT IN OUR
[00:09:44] NATION'S HISTORY. THAT HAPPENED ON FRIDAY. AND THIS WAS RIGHT
[00:09:48] AFTER ONE OF HIS, YOU KNOW, ABOUT EVERY TWO WEEKS SINCE HE
[00:09:52] GOT INAUGURATED. DONALD TRUMP IS ON THE PHONE WITH PUTIN
[00:09:54] SECRETLY, YOU KNOW, PRIVATELY.
[00:09:58] AND, UM, APPARENTLY HE'S EVEN DUMPED THE, YOU KNOW, HE USED TO
[00:10:01] HAVE, LIKE, SECURITY EXPERTS AND
[00:10:04] PEOPLE LIKE THAT ON THE CALLS. APPARENTLY, THAT'S ALL GONE.
[00:10:07] AND, UH, HE CAME OUT AND
[00:10:13] ANNOUNCED THAT THESE SANCTIONS AGAINST RUSSIAN OIL AND THE SALE OF RUSSIAN OIL AND OUR SANCTIONS
[00:10:17] ON COUNTRIES THAT BUY RUSSIAN
[00:10:19] OIL, WHICH WAS THE BIG, THE BIG
[00:10:22] DEAL. UH, WE'RE GOING TO BE SUSPENDED FOR THE NEXT SIX
[00:10:25] MONTHS. NOW, WE'VE SUSPENDED THOSE SANCTIONS A COUPLE OF
[00:10:29] TIMES. WHEN PUTIN GOT IN TROUBLE. TRUMP HAS SUSPENDED
[00:10:32] THEM IN THE PAST, I BELIEVE, TWICE, BOTH TIMES JUST FOR ONE
[00:10:36] MONTH, FOR 30 DAYS. BUT THIS TIME IT'LL BE SIX MONTHS, WHICH
[00:10:39] IS GOING TO GIVE RUSSIA BILLIONS AND BILLIONS OF DOLLARS. NOW,
[00:10:43] THE AMOUNT OF
[00:10:58] OIL OR THE AMOUNT OF DIESEL THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE, SUCH AS NINE DAYS WORTH OF DIESEL FOR
[00:11:01] THE UNITED STATES, BUT IT'S NOT GOING TO. NUMBER ONE, WE ARE
[00:11:04] DIESEL INDEPENDENT. WE PRODUCE ALL OF OUR OWN DIESEL. WE DON'T
[00:11:07] IMPORT DIESEL FROM RUSSIA. UM, AND THE ONLY REASON THAT WE'RE
[00:11:11] PAYING SUCH A HIGH PRICE FOR DIESEL IS NOT BECAUSE WE HAVE A
[00:11:14] SUPPLY PROBLEM IN THE UNITED STATES, BUT BECAUSE THE OIL
[00:11:18] COMPANIES, YOU KNOW, YOU'LL RECALL DONALD TRUMP DURING THE
[00:11:20] CAMPAIGN IN 2024. HE HAD A BUNCH OF OIL EXECUTIVES IN THE ROOM,
[00:11:23] AND HE SAID, GIVE ME $1 BILLION, AND I'LL DO ANYTHING YOU WANT.
[00:11:27] AND HE'S BEEN DOING THAT. HE'S BEEN CANCELING, YOU KNOW,
[00:11:30] WINDMILL, UH, YOU KNOW, OFFSHORE WIND PROJECTS. HE'S BEEN
[00:11:33] CANCELING SOLAR PROJECTS. HE'S
[00:11:36] ROLLED BACK OUR FUEL EFFICIENCY STANDARDS AND OUR POLLUTION
[00:11:39] STANDARDS SO THAT CARS CAN BURN
[00:11:41] MORE, MORE GASOLINE, GET LOWER GAS MILEAGE. UM, YOU KNOW, ALL
[00:11:45] THAT KIND OF STUFF. UM, AND SO
[00:11:49] THIS IS NOT REALLY GOING TO
[00:11:51] BENEFIT US AT ALL. BUT TRUMP IS HOPING, I BELIEVE THAT TRUMP, I
[00:11:55] BELIEVE THAT HE MADE THIS, UH,
[00:11:58] STATEMENT OR HE'S, HE SAID THIS
[00:12:00] FOR TWO REASONS. NUMBER ONE,
[00:12:02] PUTIN HAS GOT HIS BACK TO THE WALL. PUTIN IS IN DEEP TROUBLE
[00:12:05] RIGHT NOW. UM, THERE'S A GREAT
[00:12:10] ARTICLE BY A HISTORY PROFESSOR THAT I LINKED TO IN MY ARTICLE.
[00:12:14] UM, THAT JUST KIND OF GOES THROUGH ALL THAT. AND YOU KNOW, HOW PUTIN IS IN TROUBLE. AND I
[00:12:17] WON'T, I WON'T GO THROUGH ALL THE DETAILS RIGHT NOW, BUT, UM,
[00:12:20] THE RUSSIAN ECONOMY IS ON ITS
[00:12:22] KNEES. AND SO TRUMP JUST
[00:12:26] BASICALLY GAVE PUTIN BILLIONS OF
[00:12:28] DOLLARS A DAY. AND, YOU KNOW, FOR THE NEXT SIX MONTHS, WHICH
[00:12:31] HE DESPERATELY NEEDS. AND IT ALSO IS GOING TO FUEL UH,
[00:12:35] PUTIN'S, YOU KNOW, SLAUGHTER IN
[00:12:38] UKRAINE. UM, AND THEN HE WENT
[00:12:42] OUT IN FRONT OF THE WHITE HOUSE AND SAID TO THE PRESS, HE SAID,
[00:12:44] I WANT TO THANK PRESIDENT PUTIN
[00:12:50] I MEAN, I'M WONDERING WHAT'S
[00:12:52] GOING ON HERE. IS THIS TRUMP?
[00:12:56] UH, BAILING OUT HIS MENTOR OR
[00:12:59] HIS OWNER OR HIS BLACKMAILER? OR
[00:13:05] HAS TRUMP JUST DECIDED THAT AMERICA IS GOING TO BECOME LIKE
[00:13:08] RUSSIA, AND WE WILL ALIGN OURSELVES WITH RUSSIA? IS THAT
[00:13:10] WHAT'S GOING ON? I MEAN, YOU GOT KASH PATEL GOING TO RUSSIA
[00:13:14] AND A COUPLE IN A WEEK OR SO,
[00:13:16] AND NOBODY WILL SAY, WHY. UH,
[00:13:19] THIS THIS IS, UH, TOTALLY WILD
[00:13:25] STUFF. AND BY THE WAY, THREE
[00:13:28] WEEKS AGO, DONALD TRUMP SIGNED
[00:13:30] THE LINDSAY AU GRAHAM
[00:13:32] SANCTIONING RUSSIA AND IRAN ACT. IT WAS SIGNED INTO LAW THREE
[00:13:35] WEEKS AGO, AND IT REQUIRES THAT
[00:13:40] STARTING SUNDAY OF THIS WEEK,
[00:13:43] WE, THE UNITED STATES OR TRUMP
[00:13:45] THE PRESIDENT ON BEHALF OF WE,
[00:13:47] THE UNITED STATES, BEGIN PUNISHING COUNTRIES THAT ARE
[00:13:50] BUYING OIL FROM RUSSIA. AND NOT
[00:13:54] ONLY THAT, THERE'S THE ENDING IMPORTATION OF RUSSIAN OIL ACT
[00:13:58] THAT WAS PASSED IN 2022 BY
[00:14:00] CONGRESS. THAT SAYS THAT IF AN
[00:14:06] AMERICAN PRESIDENT WANTS TO IMPORT ANY RUSSIAN ENERGY
[00:14:08] PRODUCTS INTO THE UNITED STATES, AND THIS IS ANOTHER REASON WHY
[00:14:11] I'M SAYING THIS IS NOT GOING TO HAVE ANY IMPACT ON DIESEL, AND
[00:14:15] THAT RUSSIAN DIESEL IS NOT EVEN GOING TO END UP IN THE UNITED
[00:14:17] STATES, BUT THAT IF HE WANTED
[00:14:20] TO, HE HAS TO GIVE CONGRESS 45
[00:14:23] DAYS ADVANCE NOTICE. CONGRESS
[00:14:27] THEN HAS. HE HAS TO CERTIFY IN WRITING THAT RUSSIA HAS
[00:14:30] WITHDRAWN ALL OF ITS TROOPS FROM UKRAINE. AND RUSSIA, THEN HAS.
[00:14:33] OR, EXCUSE ME. AND CONGRESS THEN
[00:14:37] HAS 90 DAYS TO DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT TO GIVE HIM THAT PERMISSION.
[00:14:39] SO BASICALLY, IT'S FOUR AND A HALF MONTHS, LONG PROCESS FROM
[00:14:43] THE TIME THAT THE PRESIDENT DECLARES HE WANTS TO IMPORT
[00:14:46] FOSSIL FUEL PRODUCTS FROM RUSSIA UNTIL THE TIME HE CAN ACTUALLY DO IT. AND THAT'S ONLY WITH THE
[00:14:50] PERMISSION OF CONGRESS. SO THESE ARE TWO LAWS PASSED BY CONGRESS
[00:14:54] AND SIGNED THE FIRST, YOU KNOW, THE THE LINDSEY GRAHAM ACT
[00:14:57] SIGNED BY TRUMP. UH, THIS ENDING
[00:14:59] IMPORTATION ACT, SIGNED BY
[00:15:03] BIDEN, THAT DONALD TRUMP IS
[00:15:06] APPARENTLY BREAKING OR PLANNING TO BREAK. UH, JEANNE SHAHEEN,
[00:15:09] THE DEMOCRATIC SENATOR FROM NEW HAMPSHIRE POINTED THIS OUT. SHE SAID TRUMP AND HIS LICKSPITTLES
[00:15:13] HAVE TOTALLY BYPASSED EVERY ONE OF THESE REQUIREMENTS. THOM
[00:15:15] TILLIS, THE REPUBLICAN SENATOR,
[00:15:18] SAID YESTERDAY ON NBC'S MEET THE
[00:15:21] PRESS THAT THIS IS BOTH ILLEGAL
[00:15:25] AND WILL PUT AMERICAN LIVES AT RISK, WHICH PROVOKED
[00:15:28] CONGRESSMAN, REPUBLICAN CONGRESSMAN, FORMER REPUBLICAN
[00:15:31] CONGRESSMAN JOE WALSH, WHO'S BEEN ON THIS PROGRAM MANY TIMES,
[00:15:34] UH, TO SAY TRUMP IS A TRAITOR TO
[00:15:38] THE FREE WORLD. NOW, WALSH USED TO BE A LONELY VOICE IN HIS
[00:15:41] PARTY. BUT WHEN TRUMP ANNOUNCED
[00:15:44] THIS ON FRIDAY THAT HE WAS GOING
[00:15:46] TO END THE SANCTIONS ON RUSSIAN,
[00:15:48] UH, YOU KNOW, REFINED PETROLEUM
[00:15:50] PRODUCTS, MIKE PENCE CALLED IT A
[00:15:52] BETRAYAL OF SENATOR GRAHAM'S
[00:15:55] LEGACY. SENATOR, REPUBLICAN SENATOR LISA MURKOWSKI AND
[00:15:58] REPUBLICAN CONGRESSMAN DAN DAN
[00:16:01] BACON AND MICHAEL MCCAUL HAVE ALL CONDEMNED THIS. UH, BRIAN
[00:16:05] FITZPATRICK, WHO IS A REPUBLICAN
[00:16:07] CONGRESSMAN FROM PENNSYLVANIA,
[00:16:10] HAS TOLD HAS NOTIFIED MIKE
[00:16:12] JOHNSON THAT WHEN CONGRESS RESUMES AFTER THE ELECTION,
[00:16:16] HE'S GOING TO USE A DISCHARGE PETITION TO FORCE A VOTE ON A
[00:16:19] BILL THAT HE'S CALLING THE RONALD REAGAN PEACE THROUGH
[00:16:21] STRENGTH ACT THAT WOULD BLOCK
[00:16:24] ANY PURCHASE OF RUSSIAN OIL, EVEN THOUGH IT'S ALREADY
[00:16:27] ILLEGAL UNDER TWO DIFFERENT LAWS. SO, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ARE
[00:16:29] STARTING TO WONDER, WHAT SIDE IS TRUMP ON? AND IN FACT, THAT'S
[00:16:33] WHAT SENATOR MARK KELLY SAID YESTERDAY. WHOSE SIDE IS TRUMP
[00:16:36] ON? SO IS HE. I MEAN, YOU KNOW,
[00:16:41] IT APPEARS THAT TRUMP IS TRYING TO GUT OUR COUNTRY. HE'S TRYING
[00:16:43] TO DESTROY AMERICA. RIGHT? HE'S PUT AN ALCOHOLIC, B-LIST WEEKEND
[00:16:47] TV GUY IN CHARGE OF OUR PENTAGON. HE'S GOT A PLUMBER
[00:16:50] WHO'S IN CHARGE OF DHS. HE'S GOT A FRACKING GUY IN CHARGE OF
[00:16:53] ENERGY, A WRESTLING BILLIONAIRE
[00:16:55] IN CHARGE OF EDUCATION, A BRAIN
[00:16:58] WORM, DISABLED FORMER HEROIN AND SEX ADDICTED LAWYER IN CHARGE OF
[00:17:01] OUR NATION'S HEALTH, A KETAMINE ADDLED TRILLIONAIRE RIPPED UP OUR GOVERNMENT AND DESTROYED OUR
[00:17:05] SOFT POWER INTERNATIONALLY BY TAKING DOWN USAID. HE'S SHUT
[00:17:09] DOWN OUR PRO-DEMOCRACY PROPAGANDA OPERATIONS WITH THE
[00:17:12] VOICE OF AMERICA. HE PUT A MIRACLE, A WEIGHT LOSS MIRACLE
[00:17:15] PILL HAWKER IN CHARGE OF MEDICARE AND MEDICAID, A C-LIST
[00:17:19] FORMER REALITY TV STAR IS IN CHARGE OF OUR AIRLINES. HIS OWN
[00:17:23] CRIMINAL DEFENSE LAWYER IS RUNNING THE EPSTEIN COVERUP OVER AT THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE. I
[00:17:27] MEAN, THE LIST JUST GOES ON AND
[00:17:29] ON AND ON, AND AND WE KNOW THAT
[00:17:31] TRUMP HAS BEEN, UH, REPEATEDLY
[00:17:36] INVOLVED WITH RUSSIA IN WAYS THAT HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE VERY CONCERNED. I MEAN, ALL THE WAY
[00:17:39] BACK TO HELSINKI WHEN HE TOOK
[00:17:42] PUTIN'S SIDE AND TRASH TALKED OUR OWN INTELLIGENCE AGENCIES.
[00:17:46] SO, YOU KNOW, IS, UH, WHAT'S,
[00:17:49] WHAT'S GOING ON HERE? I MEAN,
[00:17:51] YOU KNOW, BENEDICT ARNOLD, AT LEAST, WAS A MILITARY HERO
[00:17:54] BEFORE HE DECIDED TO SELL OUT AMERICA. YOU KNOW, HIS HE WAS
[00:17:58] SHOT IN THE LEFT LEG, AND THEN LATER, HIS LEG WAS SHATTERED AS
[00:18:01] HE WAS LEADING THE CHARGE IN THE
[00:18:03] BATTLE OF SARATOGA. TRUMP, ON
[00:18:06] THE OTHER HAND, YOU KNOW, HAD A PHONY X-RAY OF BONE SPURS TO GET
[00:18:10] OUT OF GOING TO VIETNAM. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, IT'S. BENEDICT
[00:18:14] ARNOLD, AT LEAST, HAD BEEN A PATRIOT AND FOUGHT IN THE
[00:18:17] REVOLUTIONARY WAR BEFORE HE
[00:18:18] BETRAYED OUR COUNTRY. I THINK
[00:18:21] THIS THIS BETRAYAL OF OUR COUNTRY IS SOMETHING THAT IS
[00:18:24] GOING TO LAST FOR A LONG TIME. I
[00:18:26] THINK PEOPLE ARE STARTING TO GENUINELY WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE
[00:18:30] HELL IS GOING ON, AND IS, HAS
[00:18:32] TRUMP SOLD US OUT TO PUTIN? IS
[00:18:34] THAT WHAT'S GOING ON HERE >> [MUSIC]
[00:18:38] >> THIS IS THE THOM HARTMANN PROGRAM.
[00:18:41] >> 18 MINUTES PAST THE HOUR. I'LL BE BACK WITH MORE OF THE NEWS OF THE DAY IN YOUR CALLS IN
[00:18:43] JUST A MOMENT.
[00:18:52] >> [MUSIC] [MUSIC]
[00:18:59] >> ALL THIS MONTH ON C-SPAN 2, WE'RE BRINGING YOU LIVE TALK
[00:19:02] RADIO SIMULCAST WITH VOICES FROM ACROSS THE POLITICAL SPECTRUM.
[00:19:05] THIS WEEK, PROGRESSIVE COMMENTATOR THOM HARTMANN HOSTS
[00:19:08] THE THOM HARTMANN PROGRAM FROM PORTLAND, OREGON, AT NOON EASTERN.
[00:19:11] >> YOU KNOW, THERE'S A GOOD LIKELIHOOD THAT KANSAS WILL
[00:19:14] ELECT THE FIRST DEMOCRAT TO THE
[00:19:17] SENATE SINCE 1932. AND THE GREAT
[00:19:21] FDR LANDSLIDE AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S BEEN ALMOST A HUNDRED
[00:19:24] YEARS. AND ROGER MARSHALL IS
[00:19:26] COMING UNDER. YOU KNOW, ADAM HAMILTON IS CONDUCTING A PRETTY,
[00:19:30] PRETTY TOGETHER CAMPAIGN. WE
[00:19:31] GOT, UH, A POSTCARD FROM, SOME
[00:19:35] PHYSICIAN WHO'S FORMER PHYSICIAN WHO USED TO WORK HERE IN PITTSBURGH, WHO'S CONDEMNING
[00:19:39] MARSHALL FOR, UH, HIS STANCE. AND OF COURSE, THEY'VE HAD
[00:19:43] ABOUT A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT
[00:19:45] WOMEN HAVE APPEARED IN INTERNET ADS ABOUT HOW SHE HAD THEM
[00:19:49] THROWN IN JAIL BECAUSE THEY COULDN'T THEIR MEDICAL BILLS.
[00:19:53] RIGHT. AND THERE'S SEVERAL SOMETHING LIKE 50 WOMEN WERE THROWN IN JAIL OUT IN, UH, THAT
[00:19:56] PART OF THE COUNTRY. THEN, OF COURSE, SHE'S A BIG
[00:20:00] ANTI-ABORTION ADVOCATE AND FLAMING, YOU KNOW. YEAH. UH. >> WELL, AND HE'S A BIG
[00:20:04] SUPPORTER OF TRUMP, TOO.
[00:20:05] >> OH, YEAH. OH, OF COURSE. AND,
[00:20:08] UH, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE KRIS KOBACH GET
[00:20:11] BEATEN. I DON'T KNOW, YOU KNOW, HE'S NOT WELL LIKED, LIKE TED
[00:20:15] CRUZ. EVERYBODY HATES HIM. EVEN THE REPUBLICANS. >> KOBACH IS WHAT RUNNING.
[00:20:18] >> FOR GOVERNOR. NO, HE IS THE ATTORNEY GENERAL. HE'S RUNNING TO BE REELECTED.
[00:20:22] >> OH, HE'S RUNNING FOR AG. OKAY.
[00:20:25] >> YEAH. AND HE'S ALREADY. AG. YEAH, HE WAS AG ONCE, AND HE,
[00:20:28] UH, HE LOST IN AN ATTEMPT TO BECOME THE GOVERNOR. MHM. HE WAS
[00:20:32] DEFEATED IN A COUPLE ELECTIONS, AND THEN HE WON AGAIN, YOU KNOW,
[00:20:36] IN 2024. YEAH. AND, UH, HE HAS TO RUN AGAIN. AND I'VE MET THE
[00:20:39] GUY WHO'S RUNNING AGAINST HIM. HE'S, YOU KNOW, A DECENT HUMAN BEING. AND, UH, YOU KNOW, HE
[00:20:43] THINKS HE HAS A GOOD CHANCE TO
[00:20:44] UNSEAT HIM. SO GOING TO HAPPEN,
[00:20:48] THIS WOULD BE IT. >> YEAH. YEAH. >> BUT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE
[00:20:52] ANOTHER INTERESTING THING THAT I FOUND OUT. THERE'S FIVE COUNTIES
[00:20:55] THAT ARE DEMOCRATIC LEANING IN, YOU KNOW, 84 COUNTIES OR
[00:20:58] SOMETHING, BUT FIVE URBANIZED COUNTIES THAT ARE DEMOCRATIC
[00:21:02] LEANING. AND THEY ALL HAVE
[00:21:05] APPOINTED COUNTY CLERKS
[00:21:08] APPOINTED BY REPUBLICAN REPUBLICANS IN THE LEGISLATURE.
[00:21:10] UH OH. WHEREAS ALL THE OTHER
[00:21:13] COUNTIES HAVE ELECTED CLERKS. >> OH, REALLY?
[00:21:16] >> YES. AND, I MEAN, I WAS AT A DEMOCRATIC PARTY MEETING THE OTHER NIGHT, TALKING WITH SOME
[00:21:20] NEWER STUFF, AND SHE'S THE ONE WHO POINTED THIS OUT TO ME. SO,
[00:21:23] YOU KNOW, THERE'S A MILLION
[00:21:25] WAYS TO, TO MAKE THINGS. YOU KNOW, THEY SEEM LIKE THEY'RE
[00:21:28] OKAY. AND, BUT ACTUALLY, THERE'S A LOT OF SKULLDUGGERY GOING ON. AND OF COURSE, PEOPLE
[00:21:32] ARE STRUGGLING FOR POWER. YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THAT. >> YEAH. >> WE JUST MAKE SURE THAT WE,
[00:21:36] THAT WE, YOU KNOW, WITHIN SOME
[00:21:38] LIMITS THAT, UH, WE'RE THE
[00:21:44] FLOWER OF, OF GALLANTRY RULES OR SOMETHING. YEAH. AND THEY DO ONE
[00:21:48] THING AFTER ANOTHER DOES, BECAUSE THEY CERTAINLY DO. >> YEAH. NO, THIS IS ANOTHER
[00:21:51] GREAT EXAMPLE OF, OF HOW, YOU
[00:21:53] KNOW, IN A, IN A CLOSE ELECTION, UH, YOU KNOW, THEY CAN STEAL IT.
[00:21:57] I MEAN, YOU KNOW, GREG PALACE
[00:21:58] DID THE MATH ON THE 2024
[00:22:01] ELECTION, AND THE REPUBLICANS HAD KNOCKED 4.2, AS I RECALL,
[00:22:05] MILLION AMERICANS IN THE SWING.
[00:22:07] STATES OFF THE VOTING ROLLS OR,
[00:22:11] OR CHALLENGE THEIR THEIR ACTUAL, YOU KNOW, BALLOTS. UM, AND HAD
[00:22:14] THEY HAD THAT NOT HAPPENED, UH, KAMALA HARRIS WOULD HAVE EASILY
[00:22:18] BECOME PRESIDENT AND WE WOULD HAVE A DEMOCRATIC HOUSE, FOR SURE.
[00:22:21] >> HE'S ALSO THE ONE WHO POINTED OUT WHAT THE, YOU'VE
[00:22:24] MENTIONED ON YOUR SHOW ABOUT
[00:22:26] THE, UH, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, UH
[00:22:29] SECRETARY OF STATE OF TEXAS STOPPING THE HARRIS COUNTY FROM SENDING OUT.
[00:22:33] >> UH, YEAH. PAXTON PAXTON
[00:22:34] BRAGGED ABOUT THE FACT THAT IF HE HADN'T STOPPED THOSE BALLOTS
[00:22:38] FROM BEING MAILED TO EVERYBODY IN HOUSTON, THE LARGEST BLACK
[00:22:41] POPULATION IN AMERICA, BY THE WAY. THEN, UH, DONALD TRUMP
[00:22:44] WOULD HAVE LOST TEXAS. YEAH. YOU'RE RIGHT, DON, THANKS FOR THE CALL. ALWAYS GOOD TO HEAR
[00:22:48] FROM YOU. APPRECIATE IT. 22 MINUTES PAST THE HOUR. I'LL BE
[00:22:51] BACK WITH YOU IN 60s.
[00:22:55] >> [MUSIC] [MUSIC]
[00:23:03] >> C-SPAN 2. WE'RE BRINGING YOU LIVE TALK RADIO SIMULCAST WITH
[00:23:06] VOICES FROM ACROSS THE POLITICAL SPECTRUM THIS WEEK, PROGRESSIVE
[00:23:09] COMMENTATOR THOM HARTMANN HOSTS THE THOM HARTMANN PROGRAM FROM
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[00:25:37] >> MARYLAND. >> [MUSIC] >> VERMONT >> I DON'T THINK VERMONT.
[00:25:41] >> BUT YOU ALL DID SUCH A GREAT JOB. SEE, IT'S REALLY DIFFICULT.
[00:25:44] MAKE SURE.
[00:25:48] >> I MEAN, YOU KNOW, RUSSIA.
[00:25:50] PUTIN IS HAS OFFERED JARED AND
[00:25:53] WITKOFF A DEAL, AN OIL DEAL THAT THEY'RE LOOKING INTO INVESTING
[00:25:56] IN. OR FRIENDS OF THEIRS ARE
[00:25:59] APPARENTLY. UM, AND, OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, THE SAUDIS GAVE JARED $2 BILLION, I GUESS HE'S UP TO 6
[00:26:03] BILLION NOW THAT HE'S GOTTEN FROM THE MIDDLE EAST. MEANWHILE,
[00:26:06] THESE ATTACKS ON RIYADH, UH, YOU
[00:26:10] KNOW, THEY'VE THE CAPITAL CITY.
[00:26:11] I MEAN, THIS IS THE THIS AIRPORT
[00:26:14] IS THE KIND OF THE ENTRANCE TO THE CAPITAL OF SAUDI ARABIA.
[00:26:18] AND, UH, KING KHALID INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT ON
[00:26:22] SATURDAY. AND THE HOUTHIS ARE DRAWING BLOOD HERE. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THEY I MEAN, LITERALLY,
[00:26:25] THEY KILLED A BUNCH OF PEOPLE,
[00:26:27] BUT, UM, YOU'VE GOT THIS
[00:26:30] CONFERENCE THAT'S COMING UP. UM, THAT HAS GOT EVERYBODY
[00:26:34] FLIPPED UP, FLIPPED OUT. I MEAN,
[00:26:36] THIS IS, THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE,
[00:26:38] I THINK IT'S COMING UP THIS
[00:26:41] WEEK, OR PERHAPS IT'S NEXT
[00:26:43] WEEK. UM, BUT, UH, THE TIMING RIYADH HOSTS THE WORLD PETROLEUM
[00:26:47] CONGRESS. YEAH. THIS WEEK WITH
[00:26:50] CEOS FROM EXXONMOBIL, SHELL, TOTAL ENERGY AND BP EXPECTED
[00:26:53] FOLLOWED LATER THIS MONTH BY THE FUTURE INVESTMENT INITIATIVE.
[00:26:56] AND WALL STREET'S BILLIONAIRE FINANCIERS ORGANIZERS INSIST BOTH EVENTS ARE GOING TO
[00:27:00] CONTINUE, ACCORDING TO REUTERS.
[00:27:02] UH, THIS IS. BUT, YOU KNOW,
[00:27:05] THESE HOUTHI STRIKES ARE, UH,
[00:27:09] YOU KNOW, SAUDI ARABIA USED TO BE THOUGHT OF AS KIND OF A STABLE, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE
[00:27:13] ISLAND OF AN OASIS OF STABILITY
[00:27:15] IN THE MIDDLE EAST. NOT NOW. AND
[00:27:18] THE HOUTHIS ARE DOUBLING DOWN ON THEIR WARNINGS. THEY SAY THE
[00:27:20] WORST IS YET TO COME. UH, YOU KNOW, IF WE CONTINUE, IF THE
[00:27:24] SAUDIS CONTINUE THEIR ACTIONS AGAINST YEMEN, AND, OF COURSE,
[00:27:26] THE HOUTHIS NOW ARE, UH, HAVE
[00:27:31] THREATENING TO SHUT DOWN THE BAB
[00:27:32] EL MANDEB STRAIT, THROUGH WHICH
[00:27:36] ABOUT 10% OF GLOBAL MARITIME GOODS TRANSIT. SO THE CONCERN
[00:27:40] IS, YOU KNOW, TRUMP SAYS HE MAY
[00:27:42] COME TO THE RESCUE. HE MAY
[00:27:44] INVOLVE HIMSELF ON BEHALF OF SAUDI ARABIA. UM, NOT NOT
[00:27:48] UKRAINE. THEY DIDN'T GIVE MONEY TO HIS FAMILY, BUT THE SAUDIS
[00:27:50] DID. AND SO HE'S, HE'S THINKING ABOUT IT. AND IF HE DOES, WE'RE
[00:27:53] GOING TO GET A HELL OF A LOT DEEPER IN THE MIDDLE OF ANOTHER
[00:27:57] ONE OF THESE MIDDLE EASTERN
[00:27:58] WARS, ALL THANKS TO, YOU KNOW,
[00:28:02] BENJAMIN NETANYAHU FINALLY FINDING A PRESIDENT, AN AMERICAN PRESIDENT, STUPID ENOUGH.
[00:28:05] >> YOU'RE LISTENING TO THE THOM
[00:28:10] HARTMANN PROGRAM. CALL 2028089925. >> TRUMP SHOCKS >> [MUSIC]
[00:28:14] >> HIS OBSERVERS BY OR OBSERVERS BY MOCKING HIS OWN SUPPORTERS. I'LL TELL YOU ABOUT THAT. I'LL PICK UP YOUR CALLS AFTER THE
[00:28:18] BREAK. STAY WITH US.
[00:28:20] >> [MUSIC]
[00:28:35] >> TRUMP HANDS PUTIN A DIESEL
[00:28:37] WINDFALL. TARIFFS HAMMER. OHIO
[00:28:39] FACTORIES. TEXAS CENSORS.
[00:28:41] PROFESSORS. MEDICAID CUTS CLOSE. MATERNITY WARDS. VANCE INSULTS A
[00:28:45] BLACK CANDIDATE, AND TRUMP RAGES AT NORWAY. GOOD MORNING. THIS IS
[00:28:49] THE COMMONWEALTH REPORT. NEWS FOR THE PUBLIC, NOT THE
[00:28:51] POWERFUL. YOU CAN FOLLOW US AT
[00:28:54] COMMONWEALTH REPORT.NEWS. DID TRUMP JUST HAND PUTIN A GIFT?
[00:28:57] WHILE AMERICAN DRIVERS GET NOTHING, DONALD TRUMP JUST CUT A
[00:29:00] DEAL WITH VLADIMIR PUTIN. ON
[00:29:02] FRIDAY, HE ANNOUNCED RUSSIA WILL
[00:29:04] SHIP 300,000 TONS OF DIESEL
[00:29:06] RIGHT AWAY, 500,000 MORE IN
[00:29:08] NOVEMBER, THAN A MILLION THAN ANOTHER 3 MILLION AFTER THAT,
[00:29:12] HIS TREASURY DEPARTMENT EASED SANCTIONS ON RUSSIAN DIESEL INTO
[00:29:15] APRIL OF 2027. THIS COMES ONE
[00:29:18] MONTH AFTER TRUMP SIGNED A LAW MEANT TO CHOKE OFF THE MONEY.
[00:29:21] THE OIL MONEY THAT PAYS FOR PUTIN'S WAR. UKRAINE'S PRESIDENT
[00:29:25] ZELENSKY CALLED IT A GIFT TO PUTIN AND WARNED, QUOTE, RUSSIA
[00:29:28] WILL REPAY THE DIESEL WITH
[00:29:30] FURTHER TERROR AND PERFIDY. AND ENERGY EXPERTS SAY IT PROBABLY
[00:29:34] WON'T LOWER PRICES. MUCH DIESEL SITTING AT 628 A GALLON, DRIVEN
[00:29:37] UP BY TRUMP'S OWN WAR WITH IRAN.
[00:29:42] SO PUTIN GETS CASH FOR HIS WAR MACHINE. UKRAINE GETS MORE BOMBS, AND AMERICAN AND TRUCKERS
[00:29:45] AND FARMERS GET A PRESS RELEASE. OUR TRUMP'S TARIFFS CRUSHING THE
[00:29:49] VERY FACTORIES HE PROMISED TO
[00:29:51] SAVE. ASKED DOUG RUNDY. HE RUNS
[00:29:54] SHAPES UNLIMITED AND ALUMINUM PRODUCTS MANUFACTURER IN NORTH
[00:29:57] JACKSON, OHIO. TRUMP'S ALUMINUM
[00:30:00] TARIFFS CLIMBED FROM 10 TO 20 5% TO 50%, AND RANDY SAYS THEY'RE
[00:30:03] COSTING HIM, QUOTE, UPWARDS OF
[00:30:06] 4.5 TO $5 MILLION THIS YEAR ALONE, END QUOTE. SHIPPING
[00:30:09] SURCHARGES TIED TO THE IRAN WAR ARE AS HIGH AS $6,500 A
[00:30:13] CONTAINER. SO HE STOPPED HIRING,
[00:30:14] AND HE'S BUYING ROBOTS INSTEAD.
[00:30:18] OVER IN WARREN, COUNTERTOP MAKER SAM MILLER PAYS TARIFFS ON
[00:30:22] MATERIALS FROM ASIA AND CAN'T EXPAND INTO CANADA, WHERE TRADE TALKS COLLAPSED IN AUGUST.
[00:30:26] CANADA BUYS A THIRD OF EVERYTHING. OHIO EXPORTS. THE
[00:30:29] SUPREME COURT STRUCK DOWN MANY
[00:30:30] OF THESE TARIFFS. TRUMP PUT THEM RIGHT BACK. TARIFFS ARE SOLD AS
[00:30:34] A GIFT TO WORKING PEOPLE, BUT THEY'VE TURNED IT INTO A TAX ON
[00:30:36] THE FOLKS WHO ACTUALLY MAKE THINGS. WELL. TEXAS POLITICIANS
[00:30:41] NOW DECIDE WHAT EVERY PROFESSOR
[00:30:42] IS ALLOWED TO TEACH. THE ATLANTIC REPORTS THAT THAT
[00:30:46] STATE, THE STATE NOW CONTROLS WHAT PROFESSORS CAN TEACH UNDER
[00:30:50] A LAW WRITTEN BY FORMER REPUBLICAN STATE SENATOR BRANDON
[00:30:53] CREIGHTON, REGENTS. REGENTS
[00:30:55] PICKED BY GOVERNOR GREG ABBOTT, HOLD POWER OVER THE CURRICULUM.
[00:30:59] TEXAS A&M AND TEXAS TECH RESTRICTED TEACHING ABOUT RACE,
[00:31:03] GENDER, AND SEXUAL ORIENTATION. A&M SHUT DOWN ITS WOMEN'S AND
[00:31:06] GENDER STUDIES DEGREE. UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS REGENTS
[00:31:10] VOTED TO LIMIT WHAT THEY CALL, QUOTE, UNNECESSARY,
[00:31:13] CONTROVERSIAL SUBJECTS. ONE A&M
[00:31:15] PHILOSOPHY PROFESSOR SAID HE WASN'T ALLOWED TO TEACH PLATO.
[00:31:19] ANOTHER WAS FIRED AFTER A LESSON ON GENDER IDENTITY, AND SHE'S
[00:31:22] SUING A NEW STATE OFFICE NOW INVESTIGATES COMPLAINTS ABOUT
[00:31:26] PROFESSORS. YOU KNOW, A GOVERNMENT THAT PICKS WHICH
[00:31:29] IDEAS ARE LEGAL IN A CLASSROOM IS TRAINING, OBEDIENCE AND
[00:31:33] DEMOCRACY CAN'T SURVIVE ON
[00:31:35] THAT. HOW MANY MORE MATERNITY WARDS WILL CLOSE BEFORE
[00:31:39] REPUBLICANS ADMIT WHAT THEY DID? THE GUARDIAN REPORTS 52 MATERNITY WARDS HAVE CLOSED
[00:31:42] SINCE JULY OF LAST YEAR, WHEN TRUMP'S BIG, BEAUTIFUL BILL
[00:31:45] BECAME LAW. ANOTHER EIGHT HAVE ANNOUNCED THEY'RE CLOSING,
[00:31:49] ACCORDING TO THE GROUP PROTECT OUR CARE. THAT BILL CUT NEARLY
[00:31:53] $1 TRILLION FROM MEDICAID, AND MEDICAID PAYS FOR MORE THAN 40%
[00:31:56] OF BIRTHS IN AMERICA. HOSPITALS IN VIRGINIA AND RURAL GEORGIA
[00:32:00] POINTED TO THE COMING CUTS WHEN THEY SHUT DOWN THEIR UNITS FOR
[00:32:02] GOOD. THE MARCH OF DIMES SAYS 31 MORE RURAL HOSPITALS ARE AT
[00:32:06] RISK, AND IF THEY GO, 96 COUNTIES LOSE THEIR LAST PLACE
[00:32:09] TO DELIVER A BABY. SENATOR RON
[00:32:12] WYDEN WARNED THIS SUMMER, QUOTE, MATERNITY WARDS ACROSS AMERICA
[00:32:16] ARE SHUTTERING THEIR DOORS, AND THE WORST OF IT, INCLUDING WORK
[00:32:19] REQUIREMENTS, DOESN'T EVEN START UNTIL JANUARY. THEY TOOK
[00:32:21] HEALTH CARE FROM MOTHERS AND BABIES TO PAY FOR BILLIONAIRE
[00:32:25] TAX CUTS. REMEMBER THAT IN
[00:32:26] NOVEMBER, JD VANCE TELLS A BLACK
[00:32:30] SENATE CANDIDATE SHE DOESN'T BELONG IN AMERICA. AT A CAMPAIGN
[00:32:33] STOP IN LAKELAND, FLORIDA, ON OCTOBER 1st, THE VICE PRESIDENT
[00:32:36] WENT AFTER ANGIE NIXON, THE DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE FOR U.S.
[00:32:40] SENATE. THE FLORIDA PHOENIX REPORTS. HE SAID SHE DOESN'T BELONG IN AMERICA, AND C-SPAN
[00:32:43] VIDEO SHOWS HIM TELLING HER TO GET THE HELL OUT OF THE COUNTRY
[00:32:47] IF SHE'S A SOCIALIST. NIXON IS BLACK. HER FAMILY'S BEEN IN
[00:32:50] FLORIDA FOR GENERATIONS, SHE
[00:32:53] FIRED BACK FRIDAY, QUOTE, I DON'T NEED JD VANCE PERMISSION
[00:32:56] TO BELONG HERE. AND SHE POINTED OUT THAT THE SENATOR ADVANCES
[00:32:59] SIDE. ASHLEY MOODY WAS NEVER ELECTED. MOODY WAS APPOINTED IN
[00:33:03] 2025 TO MARCO RUBIO'S SEAT. NIXON CALLED THE ATTACK A
[00:33:07] DESPERATE DISTRACTION FROM RISING INSURANCE, RENT AND
[00:33:10] HEALTH CARE COSTS, TELLING BLACK AMERICANS TO LEAVE THE COUNTRY
[00:33:13] IS ONE OF THE OLDEST AND UGLIEST TRICKS IN OUR POLITICS. IT
[00:33:17] DESERVES AN ANSWER AT THE BALLOT
[00:33:19] BOX, TRUMP RAGES AT NORWAY AFTER THE NOBEL PRIZE GOES TO SOMEONE
[00:33:23] ELSE. THE NOBEL PEACE PRIZE WENT
[00:33:26] FRIDAY TO NAVI PILLAY, AN THE 85
[00:33:28] YEAR OLD SOUTH AFRICAN JURIST
[00:33:30] WHO DEFENDED ANTI-APARTHEID
[00:33:33] ACTIVISTS, JUDGED THE RWANDA GENOCIDE TRIALS AND LATER RAN
[00:33:37] HUMAN RIGHTS FOR THE UN. DONALD TRUMP DIDN'T TAKE IT WELL. AT A
[00:33:40] RALLY IN SYRACUSE, NEW YORK, HE CALLED HER A MYSTERY PERSON AND
[00:33:44] WARNED THAT WE WILL NOT FORGET NORWAY. THEN HE POSTED THAT HE
[00:33:47] SHOULD HAVE WON EIGHT NOBEL PRIZES, ONE FOR EACH WAR. HE
[00:33:50] CLAIMS HE SETTLED AND CALLED THE
[00:33:52] DECISION AN INDELIBLE STAIN ON
[00:33:55] NORWAY. SMALL PROBLEM. NORWAY'S GOVERNMENT GOVERNMENT DOESN'T
[00:33:58] PICK THE WINNER. AN INDEPENDENT COMMITTEE DOES. PILL GOT THE
[00:34:02] NEWS THAT A CONFERENCE IN NUREMBERG AND TOLD THE CHEERING ROOM, IF YOU CLAP A LITTLE BIT
[00:34:05] MORE, I MAY SHARE THIS PRIZE
[00:34:06] WITH TRUMP, A MAN WHO THREATENS A COUNTRY OVER A TROPHY HAS TOLD
[00:34:10] YOU EVERYTHING ABOUT WHY HE DIDN'T GET IT, AND THAT'S THE
[00:34:14] WAY IT IS TODAY. MONDAY, OCTOBER
[00:34:16] 12th, 2026. I'M THOM HARTMANN.
[00:34:38] >> C-SPAN 2, WE'RE BRINGING YOU LIVE TALK RADIO SIMULCAST WITH
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[00:35:15] AXELROD. THE DISCUSSION, WHICH WILL PROMOTE CIVIL DISAGREEMENT, WILL FOCUS ON THE POLITICAL
[00:35:19] CULTURE IN POST-TRUMP AMERICA.
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[00:35:36] >> [MUSIC]
[00:35:39] >> AS MIKE SAID BEFORE, I HAPPEN TO LISTEN TO HIM. HE WAS ON
[00:35:43] C-SPAN ONE. THAT'S A BIG
[00:35:46] UPGRADE, RIGHT?
[00:35:49] >> C-SPAN 2 HAS ALSO DOCUMENTED
[00:35:53] NEARLY 24,000 ROLL CALL VOTES,
[00:35:55] PROVIDING THE TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY OUR DEMOCRACY NEEDS TO THRIVE.
[00:35:59] >> THANKS TO C-SPAN 2, THIS
[00:36:04] PUBLIC SERVICE ALLOWS OUR CONSTITUENTS TO SEE THE SWEARING
[00:36:06] IN OF NEWLY ELECTED MEMBERS
[00:36:10] WATCHING ALL NIGHT.
[00:36:12] >> 16 WHEN TRUMP MADE THIS
[00:36:14] COMMENT, HE WAS CAMPAIGNING IN IOWA, AND HE SAID, I COULD STAND
[00:36:18] IN THE MIDDLE OF FIFTH AVENUE AND SHOOT SOMEBODY. I WOULDN'T
[00:36:20] LOSE ANY VOTERS. OKAY. AND, YOU KNOW, ESSENTIALLY WHAT HE WAS
[00:36:24] SAYING WAS THAT HE'S JUST SO
[00:36:27] POPULAR, OR THAT HIS FOLLOWERS
[00:36:32] ARE SO UNCRITICAL OR UNTHINKING
[00:36:35] OR LOW MORALS THAT, YOU KNOW,
[00:36:40] THAT THEY WOULD ELECT A MURDERER. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, IT
[00:36:43] LOOKS LIKE THEY'VE ELECTED A
[00:36:46] RAPIST. CERTAINLY, TWO JURIES
[00:36:49] FOUND THAT IN NEW YORK. AND, UH,
[00:36:50] YOU KNOW, NOW WE'VE GOT, UM,
[00:36:53] THE, UH, TESTIMONY OF MULTIPLE
[00:36:56] WOMEN THAT HE HAS ASSAULTED THEM. BUT THIS IS WHAT HE SAID
[00:36:59] IN CLARKSVILLE, TENNESSEE, ON SATURDAY. THIS IS JUST
[00:37:02] ASTONISHING. HE SAID, IT'S AMAZING WHEN YOU STAND UP HERE.
[00:37:05] IT'S JUST LIKE, OH, THE LOVE. I
[00:37:08] COULD SAY THE STUPIDEST THINGS.
[00:37:10] AND YOU'D CLAP. IT'S TRUE.
[00:37:18] YEAH. THAT'S THE PROBLEM SO WHAT'S ON YOUR MIND TODAY, TERRY? IN VENTURA, CALIFORNIA.
[00:37:21] HEY, TERRY. WHAT'S UP
[00:37:26] >> HAVE TO MAKE A REFERENCE. YOU JUST REFERRED TO GREG PALAST.
[00:37:28] UH, MAYBE, YOU KNOW, PROP 39.
[00:37:32] THIS IS MY TOPIC, BUT YOU JUST
[00:37:34] SPOKE NOT SEE THE OPPOSITION TO
[00:37:42] PROP, UH AND IT WILL REALLY INSTITUTE THE SAVE ACT OVER
[00:37:46] CALIFORNIA VOTERS BY A REFERENDUM. I'M VERY WORRIED
[00:37:49] ABOUT IT, REALLY. I JUST DON'T,
[00:37:53] I DON'T YEAH. >> 39 YOU KNOW WHAT? REQUIRING REQUIRING THE JUMP THROUGH ALL
[00:37:56] KINDS OF HOOPS IN ORDER TO VOTE.
[00:38:00] >> APPROVE VOTER ID, RIGHT,
[00:38:01] RIGHT. WE'LL PUT ON THE BUT YOU
[00:38:04] JUST MADE A REFERENCE TO IT ONE
[00:38:06] MINUTE AGO BUT MY TOPIC IS THIS,
[00:38:09] UH, TWO OF THEIR PAST SPEAKERS
[00:38:10] OF THE HOUSE MADE REFERENCES TO,
[00:38:15] UM, UH, TO TRUMP. ONE SAID, ALL
[00:38:19] HIGHWAYS LEAD TO MOSCOW. AND THAT WAS THE DEMOCRAT ONE. AND
[00:38:22] THE PREVIOUS REPUBLICAN, MCCARTHY SAID, IF ANYBODY IS ON
[00:38:25] PUTIN'S ONE OF THOSE WOULD BE,
[00:38:30] UH, TRUMP. >> YEAH. AND THE OTHER WAS DANA ROGER WICKER. YEAH, YEAH, THAT WAS KEVIN MCCARTHY WHO SAID
[00:38:34] THAT.
[00:38:36] >> BUT MY TOPIC IS THIS, WHO OR
[00:38:38] WHAT WOULD PLANT THE IDEA IN
[00:38:41] TRUMP'S BRAIN ABOUT THE
[00:38:44] RESOURCE OF POTASH? I WAS
[00:38:46] WATCHING CANADIAN NEWS, AND JUST
[00:38:49] OUT OF THE BLUE, UH, TRUMP MADE
[00:38:52] REFERENCE. HE WANTS TO IMPORT
[00:38:54] BELARUSIAN POTASH GETTING IT
[00:38:59] FROM SASKATCHEWAN. AND HE PUT
[00:39:01] ZERO TARIFFS ON THAT BECAUSE
[00:39:04] IT'S A VITAL, UH, IT'S, IT'S
[00:39:06] A VITAL RESOURCE TO AGRICULTURE. >> BUT WHO FERTILIZER.
[00:39:09] >> WOULD POSSIBLY TURN HIS TURN
[00:39:11] HIS THOUGHTS TOWARDS LESHCHENKO
[00:39:15] OF BELARUS. ITS CRITICS ARE CALLING IT BLOODY.
[00:39:18] >> POTASH. LUKASHENKO WORKS FOR PUTIN. BELARUS IS KIND OF A
[00:39:22] WHOLLY OWNED SUBSIDIARY OF
[00:39:24] RUSSIA. SO, YOU KNOW, EVERY TWO
[00:39:27] WEEKS, EVER SINCE DONALD TRUMP GOT INAUGURATED, HE'S GOT HE'S
[00:39:30] HAD THESE, YOU KNOW, HOUR TO TWO HOUR LONG PHONE CONVERSATIONS
[00:39:33] WITH PUTIN. I THINK HE'S GETTING
[00:39:36] INSTRUCTIONS. I THINK I THINK PUTIN'S SUGGESTED TO HIM, HEY,
[00:39:40] WHY DON'T YOU PUT A, YOU KNOW, A HEROIN ADDICT, LAWYER IN CHARGE OF YOUR NATION'S HEALTH?
[00:39:43] UH, YOU KNOW, WHY DON'T YOU, WHY DON'T YOU PUT A FOSSIL FUEL
[00:39:47] LOBBYIST IN CHARGE OF YOUR ENERGY DEPARTMENT? YOU KNOW, WHY DON'T WHY DON'T YOU PUT A
[00:39:50] PLUMBER IN CHARGE OF YOUR DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY?
[00:39:54] YOU KNOW, MARKWAYNE MULLIN WAS A PLUMBER. RIGHT? NOW, HE'S
[00:39:57] RUNNING. OUR POLICE AGENCIES HAD NO EXPERIENCE AT ALL IN THAT.
[00:40:00] BUT IN THE WRESTLING. GO AHEAD.
[00:40:03] I'M SORRY. >> IN THE END TIME, THOUGH, A
[00:40:07] BELARUS IS ALMOST ALL OF THEIR POTASH IS GOING TO CHINA, AND THEY DON'T HAVE ANY DESPAIR
[00:40:10] ANYWAY. SO WHO WOULD POSSIBLY THINK OF WE'RE GOING TO BUY
[00:40:14] FROM, UH, THE SHINKO SO
[00:40:20] OFFENSIVE. OKAY. >> YEAH, YEAH, I'M WITH YOU. WELL, IT'S JUST MORE EVIDENCE
[00:40:23] THAT, YOU KNOW, TRUMP, I, WHAT I
[00:40:25] SEE HAPPENING AND I, AND I
[00:40:28] DON'T THINK THIS IS ANY KIND OF CONSPIRACY THEORY BECAUSE THERE IS SO MUCH EVIDENCE FOR THIS, IS
[00:40:32] THAT TRUMP IS ALIGNING US AWAY
[00:40:37] FROM NATO AND OTHER DEMOCRATIC NATIONS WHO HE REGULARLY TRASH TALKS. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, LOOK AT
[00:40:41] WHAT HE DID TO SOUTH KOREA RECENTLY. FOR EXAMPLE. AND
[00:40:45] TOWARD THE AUTOCRATIC COUNTRIES IN THE WORLD THAT HE ADMIRES.
[00:40:49] AND HE WANTS AMERICA TO BE LIKE, WHICH IS SPECIFICALLY RUSSIA,
[00:40:52] CHINA, NORTH KOREA. UM, YOU KNOW, HE, I MEAN, HE PUT A
[00:40:56] STATUE OF HIMSELF, A 14 FOOT GOLD STATUE OF HIMSELF ON ONE OF
[00:40:59] HIS LITTLE SHABBY LITTLE GOLF
[00:41:01] MOTELS, YOU KNOW, WITH HIS ARM
[00:41:04] IN A VIRTUALLY IDENTICAL TO THE ONE THAT KIM JONG UN HAS OF
[00:41:06] HIMSELF IN, IN, UH, PYONGYANG, I
[00:41:10] THINK, IS THE CAPITAL CITY OF NORTH KOREA. SO, YEAH, I,
[00:41:14] THAT'S THE ONLY SOLUTION OR ANSWER I CAN COME UP WITH. I
[00:41:18] DON'T GET IT. TERRY. THANK YOU FOR THE CALL. >> I JUST WONDER WHAT NORTH
[00:41:22] DAKOTA FARMERS THINK ABOUT ANY, UH, THREAT TO THEIR SOURCE OF POTASH. OKAY.
[00:41:26] >> YEAH, THEY HAVE TO BE A LITTLE CONCERNED. THEY HAVE TO BE A LITTLE CONCERNED. THANK
[00:41:29] YOU. TERRY. MATTHEW IN MADISON, WISCONSIN. HEY, MATTHEW, THANKS
[00:41:33] FOR LISTENING. CIVIC MEDIA. >> WHAT'S UP?
[00:41:36] >> HEY, TOM. THANKS FOR WHAT YOU DO. UM, I WANTED TO BRING UP
[00:41:39] THIS IDEA OF, AND THE THREAT
[00:41:46] FROM THESE CHRISTIAN WHITE
[00:41:48] SUPREMACIST MILITIA GROUPS ALL
[00:41:50] ACROSS THE COUNTRY THAT MAKES UP
[00:41:53] THE GUNS THAT THESE REPUBLICANS REFER TO WHEN THEY THREATEN
[00:41:56] CIVIL WAR. AND THEY TALK SO BRAZENLY. AND I WANTED TO ASK
[00:41:59] YOU WHAT YOU THOUGHT OF WHY, AND
[00:42:02] IF WE COULD SPREAD THE IDEA OF
[00:42:06] FORMING OUR OWN CENTRIST OR
[00:42:08] DEMOCRATIC OR A COALITION BASED
[00:42:13] OR JUST FAR LEFT OR SEPARATE LITTLE GROUPS, BUT THE IDEA OF
[00:42:16] OUR OWN MILITIA GROUPS TO
[00:42:18] CHALLENGE THAT, NOT PHYSICALLY,
[00:42:21] NOT IN A WAR, BUT TO, TO BE A
[00:42:24] BOLSTER OR A WALL TO ACT THE WAY
[00:42:30] THEY DO. LIKE BANNON IS ALWAYS TALKING THE WAY HE DOES, BECAUSE
[00:42:33] HE KNOWS WE DON'T HAVE OUR OWN
[00:42:35] GROUPS, NOT NEARLY IN THE NUMBERS. AND THERE'S A LOT OF
[00:42:39] POSITIVES TO MILITIA CULTURE.
[00:42:40] LIKE, I THINK A LOT OF LIBERAL
[00:42:43] YOUNG MEN ESPECIALLY, COULD USE SOMETHING LIKE THAT. LIKE, WHAT
[00:42:45] ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT?
[00:42:48] >> UM, IN, IN EVERY OR VIRTUALLY
[00:42:51] EVERY STATE IN THE UNION,
[00:42:54] PRIVATE MILITIAS ARE OUTLAWED BY STATE LAW. THERE ARE SEVERAL
[00:42:58] STATES WHERE THEY'RE OUTLAWED IN THEIR CONSTITUTIONS. YEAH, IT'S BEEN, IT'S BEEN A COUPLE
[00:43:01] OF YEARS SINCE I'VE WRITTEN ABOUT THIS, BUT I ACTUALLY DID THE RESEARCH ON THIS. AND IT'S
[00:43:05] TRUE, THE LAWS ARE GENERALLY NOT
[00:43:08] ENFORCED. BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE AGAINST THE LAW. AND THESE LAWS WERE PASSED, BY THE
[00:43:12] WAY, AFTER THE CIVIL WAR. AND THE, THE REASON WHY THESE LAWS
[00:43:15] WERE PASSED, YOU KNOW, IN PART
[00:43:18] WAS TO, WAS TO GO AFTER THE
[00:43:20] KLAN. BUT, UM, I WOULD NOT WANT
[00:43:24] TO ENCOURAGE ANYBODY TO, UH, TO
[00:43:28] BE DOING ANYTHING THAT COULD ULTIMATELY LEAD TO ANYTHING THAT
[00:43:31] RESEMBLES A CIVIL WAR. CIVIL WARS ARE THE MOST BRUTAL KIND OF
[00:43:34] WARS. AND, UH, YOU KNOW, THIS IS NOT WHAT WE WANT HERE IN THE
[00:43:38] UNITED STATES, MATTHEW, BUT THANKS FOR THE CALL.
[00:43:40] >> SUPPOSEDLY, 200 OR MORE ON THE RIGHT, THOUGH CURRENTLY. >> I, YOU KNOW, I KNOW, AND, YOU
[00:43:44] KNOW, I, I, IN MY MIND, WHAT
[00:43:47] THEY'RE DOING IS ESSENTIALLY MASTURBATION, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY RUN AROUND WITH THEIR GUNS,
[00:43:51] YOU KNOW, THEIR LITTLE PHALLIC
[00:43:53] SYMBOLS AND, AND, UH, YOU KNOW,
[00:43:55] THREATEN PEOPLE AND, AND, UH, TRY TO BEHAVE LIKE THE REAL MEN,
[00:43:58] UH, YOU KNOW, REAL MEN DON'T DO THAT KIND OF STUFF. MATTHEW.
[00:44:01] THANK YOU FOR THE CALL. TONY. IN BUFFALO, NEW YORK. HEY, TONY.
[00:44:04] WHAT'S ON YOUR MIND TODAY?
[00:44:06] >> WELL, FIRST OF ALL, LET'S
[00:44:08] COMPARE BIDEN, AT THE BEGINNING
[00:44:12] OF THE WAR THAT RUSSIA STARTED,
[00:44:15] TOOK, DECIDED VISIT KYIV. DO YOU
[00:44:19] REMEMBER HOW HE GOT THERE HE TOOK A TRAIN. HE TOOK THE TRAIN
[00:44:23] DURING THE HOLIDAYS TO VISIT
[00:44:25] WITH ZELENSKY TRUMP SAID AS HE
[00:44:30] WAS ON THE BOTTOM OF THE STEPS
[00:44:34] IT IS THAT ZELENSKY SHOULD BE
[00:44:36] BOOTED OUT OF OFFICE BECAUSE HE
[00:44:39] HAS BOTCHED EFFORTS TO SET THE
[00:44:45] TO OF UKRAINIAN.
[00:44:51] >> ALL HE HAS TO DO IS JUST SURRENDER AND GIVE UKRAINE TO,
[00:44:53] TO PUTIN. AND THE WAR STOPS,
[00:44:56] RIGHT? THAT'S WHAT TRUMP IS BASICALLY SAYING, WHICH IS INSANE.
[00:45:00] >> SOMETHING TO POINT OUT.
[00:45:02] SOMETHING ELSE LINDSEY GRAHAM.
[00:45:04] ACCORDING TO TRUMP AT ONE TIME,
[00:45:06] WAS HIS BEST FRIEND WASN'T
[00:45:11] LINDSEY GRAHAM HIS BEST FRIEND.
[00:45:12] WELL, THE DAY HE DIED AFTER HE
[00:45:16] DIED, BEFORE HE DIED, HE WAS IN
[00:45:18] KYIV TRYING TO WORK WITH THE
[00:45:21] UKRAINIAN GOVERNMENT TOO WELL,
[00:45:25] DID IT? NO, BECAUSE THEY PASSED
[00:45:28] THE BILL IN HIS HONOR, 86
[00:45:31] SENATORS VOTED FOR THAT HE
[00:45:36] VIOLATED THE BILL ON ON FRIDAY
[00:45:44] THE HELL WITH LINDSEY GRAHAM.
[00:45:46] HE'S GONE. WHO CARES? TOM.
[00:45:53] HE'S HERE TO HELP HIMSELF. AND
[00:45:59] >> AND, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, UH, APPARENTLY, PUTIN HAS BEEN
[00:46:03] DANGLING ALL KINDS OF BUSINESS
[00:46:05] DEALS WITH WITKOFF AND KUSHNER
[00:46:09] AND TRUMP. AND, UH, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE PROBABLY STILL TALKING
[00:46:12] ABOUT TRUMP TOWER, MOSCOW. IT'S INCREDIBLE.
[00:46:16] >> [MUSIC] >> THE, THE, THE CORRUPTION. AND
[00:46:18] JUST FUNDAMENTAL
[00:46:22] ANTI-AMERICANISM OF THIS ADMINISTRATION IS BREATHTAKING.
[00:46:24] IT'S 45 MINUTES PAST THE HOUR.
[00:46:27] >> YOU'RE LISTENING TO THOM HARTMANN. VISIT THOM
[00:46:31] HARTMANN.COM FOR AUDIO AND VIDEO ARCHIVES.
[00:46:35] >> DEFENDING AMERICA FROM THE >> [MUSIC] >> WEAPONS OF MASS DECEPTION. I'LL BE RIGHT BACK WITH YOU,
[00:46:38] FOLKS
[00:46:43] >> [MUSIC] [MUSIC]
[00:46:54] >> AND WELCOME BACK, ERIC IN LONG BEACH, CALIFORNIA. HEY,
[00:46:56] ERIC, WHAT'S ON YOUR MIND TODAY?
[00:47:00] >> HEY, I JUST WANTED TO SPEAK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, UM, ABOUT
[00:47:03] COLUMBUS. I HEARD YOU MENTION COLUMBUS IN THE BEGINNING. YEAH.
[00:47:07] AND THAT, YOU KNOW, THE, THE OVERALL, UM, TEACHING IS
[00:47:11] COLUMBUS WAS LOST AND HE
[00:47:12] STUMBLED, BUMBLED AMERICAS. BUT
[00:47:16] THAT'S NOT TRUE. HE LEARNED ABOUT THE AMERICAS WHEN HE WAS
[00:47:20] PART OF THE NAVIGATIONAL SCHOOLS
[00:47:23] UNDER THE MOORISH EMPIRE. AND AS YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, WE, THE
[00:47:27] MOORS RULED IBERIAN PENINSULA
[00:47:29] FOR 781 YEARS, 711 A.D. TO 1492
[00:47:34] WHEN THE MOORISH SULTANS SURRENDERED TO ISABELLA AND
[00:47:38] FERDINAND, WHICH IS NOW TODAY CALLED SPAIN. AND A LOT OF THOSE
[00:47:42] MOORS CONVERTED FROM ISLAM TO
[00:47:48] CHRISTIANITY, AND KAINE, AND
[00:47:51] ACTUALLY COLUMBUS SHIPS FROM
[00:47:54] SPAIN TO THE AMERICAS. HOWEVER, THE OTHER PART IS, MOST OF THE
[00:47:57] MOORS WERE RECLASSIFIED AS, WHICH IS. EVERYBODY KNOW SPANISH
[00:48:01] FOR BLACK. SO COLUMBUS DIDN'T
[00:48:04] JUST. HAPPENSTANCE, JUST STUMBLED OVER HERE. HE KNEW
[00:48:07] WHERE HE WAS GOING BECAUSE THE
[00:48:09] MOORS HAD ALWAYS BEEN BACK AND
[00:48:13] FORTH BETWEEN, UM, THE IBERIAN PENINSULA AND THE AMERICAS, BACK
[00:48:17] TO 1311, WITH ABUBAKARI. SO.
[00:48:21] >> FASCINATING. >> THAT'S JUST A PART OF THE
[00:48:23] HISTORY THAT'S NOT REALLY TALKED ABOUT. >> YEAH, YEAH. ERIC. THANK YOU.
[00:48:27] I, YOU KNOW, I'LL HAVE TO DO SOME DIGGING INTO THAT. I WAS UNAWARE OF THAT, TOO. THANK YOU
[00:48:30] VERY MUCH, DAVE. AND FEDERAL WAY WASHINGTON. HEY, DAVE, WHAT'S ON
[00:48:33] YOUR MIND
[00:48:35] >> TOO MUCH. TOM. DOES TRUMP-PUTIN CONNECTION? LOOK, UM, YOU KNOW HOW YOU'VE ALWAYS
[00:48:39] TALKED ABOUT HOBBES AND LOCKE,
[00:48:42] RIGHT? AND THEIR DEBATES AND,
[00:48:44] UM, THE, UH WHEN BENEDICT ARNOLD
[00:48:49] GAVE UP ON DEMOCRACY AND WENT
[00:48:51] BACK TO THE KING, IT WAS JUST A FANCIFUL EXPERIMENT THAT HE WAS
[00:48:55] TIRED OF SEEING PEOPLE DIE. AND
[00:48:58] HE HIMSELF, YOU KNOW, YOU TALKED
[00:48:59] ABOUT HIS OWN PERSONAL INJURIES.
[00:49:03] OKAY. DEMOCRACY WAS JUST FANCIFUL. IT WAS EXPERIMENTAL, AND PEOPLE'S LIVES WEREN'T
[00:49:06] REALLY, UM, NECESSARY TO RISK IN
[00:49:10] HIS MIND, TRUMP AND MAGA. IT'S
[00:49:12] DIFFERENT NOW. DEMOCRACY IS
[00:49:15] OBSOLETE. IT IS SAID THE REASON
[00:49:20] WHY PRESIDENT OBAMA, THERE'S ONLY REALLY ONE REASON HE'S GOING TO GO DOWN IN HISTORY AS A
[00:49:23] GREAT PRESIDENT OBAMA, BECAUSE
[00:49:25] HE ASKED WHY, LIKE, A LOT OF IT
[00:49:30] WAS ECONOMIC BASED ON MONEY, RIGHT? HE ASKED, WHY ARE WE IN
[00:49:34] THESE ENDLESS WARS? WHY, WHY, WHY, WHY, WHY TRUMP AND MAGA?
[00:49:36] THEY DON'T ASK WHY. ALL THEY
[00:49:39] ASK IS, DOES THIS PROFIT THE FÜHRER? DOES THIS PROFIT THE LEADER? DOES THIS PROFIT, DEAR
[00:49:44] LEADER. AND YOU'RE RIGHT. BY BY COMPARING HIM TO KIM JONG UN. I
[00:49:48] THINK THAT'S THE MOST SIMILAR REGIME. AND TO, TO COMPARE TRUMP
[00:49:51] AND MAGA TO. AND THEY'RE NOT
[00:49:53] STUPID, RIGHT? MAGA, I'VE NOTICED THEY'RE CHANGING THEIR,
[00:49:56] UM, ON THESE DEBATE SHOWS. THEY'RE CHANGING. LIKE, UH, THE
[00:50:00] OTHER DAY, I JUST HEARD CAROLINE SUNSHINE, SHE DID IT. AND IT WAS
[00:50:03] REALLY, REALLY SMART. SHE, SHE TOLD THE LIBERAL, WAIT A MINUTE. IF TRUMP HAS UNLIMITED POWER,
[00:50:07] WHY DOES THE SUPREME COURT GO
[00:50:09] AGAINST HIM? TAKE LITTLE. I'M
[00:50:12] TELLING YOU, MAGA IS, UM, A
[00:50:14] MOVEMENT THAT THAT VLADIMIR
[00:50:19] EASILY EXPLOIT. AND FRANKLY. >> AND HAS BEEN SINCE, SINCE
[00:50:22] 2015. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THE
[00:50:23] MUELLER INVESTIGATION FOUND
[00:50:26] MULTIPLE INSTANCES OF RUSSIA HELPING OUT TRUMP AND TEN
[00:50:29] SPECIFIC YOU KNOW, HE MADE TEN
[00:50:32] SPECIFIC CHARGES AGAINST DONALD
[00:50:34] TRUMP HIMSELF FOR, YOU KNOW,
[00:50:38] FELONY OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE, TRYING TO SHUT DOWN HIS OWN INVESTIGATION. SO, YEAH, I GET IT, DAVE, I GOTTA RUN. BUT
[00:50:41] THANKS FOR THE CALL. UH, APPRECIATE IT. TEN MINUTES
[00:50:44] BEFORE THE HOUR. I'LL BE BACK WITH YOU IN 60s
[00:50:48] >> [MUSIC]
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[00:52:27] >> GREETINGS, TOM I DON'T KNOW.
[00:52:32] I I'M NOT REALLY SATISFIED. UM,
[00:52:37] I CALLED IN AROUND ALMOST 9:00,
[00:52:41] AND, YOU KNOW, I SAID I WANTED
[00:52:43] TO TALK ABOUT THIS, AND THEN,
[00:52:45] UM, MATEO, WHO'S ALWAYS BEEN
[00:52:48] REALLY NICE, HE SAID, YOU KNOW,
[00:52:51] THE TYPICAL TOPIC FOR YOU, NOT
[00:52:53] VERBATIM, BUT, YOU KNOW, DOES HE
[00:52:56] SAY THAT TO THE MEN THAT CALL ABOUT WAR ALL THE TIME?
[00:53:00] >> I DON'T HAVE ANY IDEA. SUSIE. I'M SORRY. YOU'RE YOU'RE
[00:53:04] UNHAPPY WITH YOUR INTERACTION WITH MATEO, RON AND BERRIEN SPRINGS, MICHIGAN. HEY, RON,
[00:53:07] WHAT'S ON YOUR MIND TODAY?
[00:53:09] >> HI FARMS AROUND THE AREA
[00:53:13] WHERE I LIVE, AND IT'S GETTING LATE IN THE SEASON, AND I HAVE
[00:53:17] NOT SEEN ANY FARMER CUT DOWN
[00:53:19] THEIR A LITTLE CURIOUS, BUT, UH,
[00:53:27] ARE SO HIGH THAT THEY DON'T WANT
[00:53:29] TO HARVEST. AND THEN THE, UH,
[00:53:31] COMMODITY PRICES, I UNDERSTAND, ARE PRETTY LOW. SO I'M JUST WONDERING IF THEY'RE GOING TO
[00:53:35] LET IT ROT IN THE FIELD OF CORN, BECAUSE I'VE NEVER SEEN SO MUCH
[00:53:39] CORN STANDING UP IN THE FIELD.
[00:53:43] UNHARVESTED. THIS LATE IN THE SEASON. >> YEAH. HUH. I, YOU KNOW, NOT,
[00:53:47] NOT LIVING RURALLY NOT, YOU
[00:53:51] KNOW, I DON'T KNOW. I, I'VE, I'VE NEVER LIVED ON A FARM, SO
[00:53:54] I JUST DON'T KNOW. BUT THAT
[00:53:56] WOULD MAKE SENSE. UM, YOU MIGHT
[00:53:59] WANT TO ASK SOME FARMERS, RON,
[00:54:01] AND THEN GIVE US A CALL.
[00:54:07] >> DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO TALK TO HIM, BUT I. YEAH, IT'S A
[00:54:09] GOOD ARE TRUMP SUPPORTERS, AND.
[00:54:15] WELL, I JUST WONDER IF YOU GET A STRAIGHT ANSWER. >> YOU DON'T HAVE TO OFFEND THEM. YOU CAN JUST SAY, YOU
[00:54:19] KNOW, ARE YOU HOW COME YOU'RE NOT HARVESTING YOUR CORN? YOU
[00:54:22] KNOW, I MEAN, IT'S LIKE, IT'S,
[00:54:25] UH, YEAH, IT'S, THAT'S IT. I, I THOUGHT THE COMMODITY PRICES
[00:54:29] WERE FAIRLY HIGH, ACTUALLY, THAT THEY WERE TRACKING DIESEL
[00:54:32] PRICES, BUT, UM, GEEZ, I JUST
[00:54:34] DON'T KNOW. RON. I'M SORRY. IT'S MAYBE SOMEBODY WILL CALL
[00:54:38] IN, YOU KNOW, FROM ONE OF THE FARM STATES WHO ACTUALLY DOES
[00:54:40] KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT. SO,
[00:54:42] RON, THANKS FOR THE CALL. YEAH. ALEX IN EDISON, NEW JERSEY. HEY,
[00:54:46] ALEX, WHAT'S ON YOUR MIND TODAY?
[00:54:48] >> HELLO, TOM. I'M A LITTLE
[00:54:51] TICKED OFF HERE. OKAY UM, WHAT
[00:54:52] REALLY GRINDS MY GEARS IS THE,
[00:54:56] UH, THE TALARICO PAXTON
[00:54:57] SITUATION WHERE PAXTON PUT OUT A
[00:55:03] THAT TALARICO WENT TO A MENTAL HEALTH INSTITUTION. >> I DON'T THINK PAXTON DID.
[00:55:06] DID. PAXTON. PAXTON DIDN'T PUT OUT THAT AD. THAT WAS A BUNCH OF
[00:55:09] RIGHT WING INFLUENCERS AND, AND RADIO HOSTS, WASN'T IT?
[00:55:13] >> WELL, WELL, THE FACT THAT IT WAS DONE IS OUTRAGEOUS ENOUGH.
[00:55:16] BUT WHAT IT DOES IS IT THE
[00:55:21] MORAL, I DON'T KNOW, STIGMA
[00:55:25] AGAINST PEOPLE WITH MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES. AND IT DISCOURAGES PEOPLE FROM SEEKING
[00:55:28] MENTAL HEALTH. ALSO, SHOUT OUT
[00:55:30] TO MY FRIEND ANDREW AND I'LL TAKE YOUR RESPONSE OFFLINE. THANKS, BUDDY.
[00:55:34] >> ALL RIGHT. THANKS A LOT, ALEX. GOOD TO HEAR FROM YOU. UM,
[00:55:38] LET'S SEE. UH, GEORGE IN CRIPPLE CREEK, VIRGINIA. HEY,
[00:55:41] GEORGE, WHAT'S ON YOUR MIND TODAY?
[00:55:43] >> HEY, TOM. DID YOU SEE THAT?
[00:55:45] UH, NATO COMMANDER? I THINK
[00:55:48] IT'S U.S. GENERAL KEN CAMBRIDGE
[00:55:50] SAID THAT IF RUSSIA WAS STUPID ENOUGH TO ATTACK NATO, NATO
[00:55:54] WOULD HIT BACK WITH EVERYTHING IN ITS ARSENAL. JUST DEVASTATE
[00:55:58] RUSSIA. AND I'M AFRAID IF THAT HAPPENED, PRESIDENT TRUMP WOULD
[00:56:01] FIGURE OUT SOME EXCUSE TO, UH
[00:56:05] NOT SUPPORT ARTICLE FIVE. YEAH. YOU KNOW, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW,
[00:56:07] HE'S THREATENING TO CUT OFF ALL
[00:56:10] INTELLIGENCE AND FINANCIAL SUPPORT TO UKRAINE IF UKRAINE
[00:56:14] DOESN'T STOP HITTING RUSSIAN
[00:56:16] OIL REFINERIES, ET CETERA.. SO HE'S NOT ONLY NOT SUPPORTING
[00:56:20] UKRAINE, HE'S SUPPORTING PUTIN. >> WELL, AND APPARENTLY THERE
[00:56:24] WAS A PIECE IN THE FINANCIAL TIMES LAST NIGHT THAT I WAS
[00:56:27] READING, THAT APPARENTLY,
[00:56:29] THERE'S A MEETING COMING UP
[00:56:32] ABOUT NATO, THAT THE BALTIC
[00:56:34] STATES WERE NOT INVITED TO AND.
[00:56:38] >> NATO MEMBERS, I CAN'T UNDERSTAND THAT.
[00:56:40] >> YEAH. IT IT THE IMPLICATION
[00:56:45] OF THE ARTICLE, OR AT LEAST THE IMPLICATION I TOOK FROM IT, WAS
[00:56:48] THAT PUTIN OR IS THAT TRUMP IS
[00:56:50] MOVING STEP BY STEP TOWARD
[00:56:52] BASICALLY DISENGAGING FROM NATO,
[00:56:54] AND ALSO THAT THE, UH, THE, YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW, THE SUPREME
[00:56:58] ALLIED COMMANDER, YOU KNOW, THE,
[00:57:01] UH, THE, UH, I FORGET WHO IT IS AND WHAT HIS ROLE IS. UM, SORRY, I SHOULD HAVE THE ARTICLE IN
[00:57:05] FRONT OF ME RIGHT NOW. UM, THAT
[00:57:09] TRUMP IS TALKING ABOUT PULLING HIM OUT AND HAVING A
[00:57:12] NON-AMERICAN BE THE, BASICALLY THE LEADER OF THE MILITARY
[00:57:15] LEADER OF NATO. YEAH. AND IF THAT HAPPENS, THAT WOULD PROVIDE
[00:57:19] TRUMP WITH THE BASIS TO SAY, OKAY, NATO, THAT'S YOUR FIGHT,
[00:57:22] NOT OURS. AND THAT'S. >> EXACTLY RIGHT. >> THAT'S WHAT THIS MEETING IS ALL ABOUT.
[00:57:25] >> YOU'VE GOT A NON-U.S. COMMANDER. SO WE'RE OUT OF HERE.
[00:57:29] >> YEAH, YEAH. AND THAT'S, THAT'S A NIGHTMARE SCENARIO. I MEAN, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT PUTIN
[00:57:33] WANTS, WHICH IS PROBABLY WHY TRUMP, HE'S. >> BEEN TRYING TO GET THAT HAPPEN FOR YEARS.
[00:57:37] >> RIGHT. SO THE QUESTION IS,
[00:57:37] IS, IS TRUMP DOING WHAT PUTIN
[00:57:41] WANTS EVERY SINGLE TIME FOR THE LAST TEN YEARS? IS TRUMP DOING WHAT PUTIN WANTS? BECAUSE PUTIN
[00:57:45] OWNS HIM? BECAUSE PUTIN'S BLACKMAILING HIM, BECAUSE
[00:57:47] PUTIN'S PAYING HIM, BECAUSE HE WANTS TO BECOME LIKE.
[00:57:50] >> PUTIN'S BLACKMAILING HIM. >> I THINK IT'S BECAUSE HE
[00:57:53] WANTS TO TURN AMERICA AWAY FROM DEMOCRACY. AND, YOU KNOW, JUST
[00:57:57] LIKE, YOU KNOW, WHEN PUTIN CAME IN, RUSSIA WAS A DEMOCRACY, AND HE DESTROYED THAT. I THINK TRUMP
[00:58:01] WANTS TO DO THE SAME THING HERE IN AMERICA, MAKE HIS FAMILY
[00:58:04] RICH, AND JUST RULE THE COUNTRY
[00:58:07] FOR FOREVER. YOU KNOW, DON JR. NEXT. AND HE'S TAKING ADVICE
[00:58:10] FROM PUTIN ON HOW TO DO IT. THAT'S MY OPINION. BUT, GEORGE, THANKS FOR THE CALL. GOOD
[00:58:13] TALKING TO YOU. WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK.
[00:58:17] >> [MUSIC] >> YOU'RE LISTENING TO THOM
[00:58:21] HARTMANN.
[00:58:33] >> [MUSIC] >> C-SPAN 2. WE'RE BRINGING YOU
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[00:59:02] MOBILE VIDEO APP. THE ROAD TO THE CAPITOL RUNS
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[00:59:20] CANDIDATES, THE VOTERS, AND THE
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[00:59:26] THINK. NO PARTIZAN SPIN THE ROAD
[00:59:28] TO THE CAPITOL, ONLY ON C-SPAN.
[00:59:32] >> LATER TODAY. UTAH'S REPUBLICAN GOVERNOR, SPENCER
[00:59:35] COX, SITS DOWN FOR A
[00:59:37] CONVERSATION WITH FORMER OBAMA SENIOR ADVISER DAVID AXELROD.
[00:59:40] THE DISCUSSION, WHICH WILL PROMOTE CIVIL DISAGREEMENT, WILL
[00:59:43] FOCUS ON THE POLITICAL CULTURE
[00:59:45] IN POST-TRUMP AMERICA. WATCH LIVE FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF
[00:59:49] CHICAGO AT 6:30 P.M. EASTERN ON
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[01:00:04] >> [MUSIC] >> AS MIKE SAID BEFORE, I HAPPEN
[01:00:06] TO LISTEN TO HIM. HE WAS ON
[01:00:09] C-SPAN ONE. THAT'S A BIG
[01:00:11] UPGRADE, RIGHT?
[01:00:14] >> C-SPAN 2 HAS ALSO DOCUMENTED
[01:00:17] NEARLY 24,000 ROLL CALL VOTES, PROVIDING THE TRANSPARENCY AND
[01:00:21] ACCOUNTABILITY OUR DEMOCRACY
[01:00:23] NEEDS TO THRIVE.
[01:00:26] >> THANKS TO C-SPAN 2, THIS
[01:00:30] PUBLIC SERVICE ALLOWS OUR CONSTITUENTS TO SEE THE SWEARING
[01:00:32] IN OF NEWLY ELECTED MEMBERS.
[01:00:35] WATCHING ALL NIGHT SESSIONS
[01:00:37] DURING VOTE DRAMAS, AND TUNE IN
[01:00:39] TO HISTORY BEING MADE.
[01:00:43] >> BUT I'VE READ ABOUT IT IN
[01:00:44] THE HISTORY BOOKS. I'VE SEEN THE
[01:00:49] C-SPAN FOOTAGE. >> IF IT'S A REALLY GOOD IDEA,
[01:00:51] PRESENT IT IN. >> PUBLIC VIEW ON C-SPAN.
[01:00:55] >> I WENT HOME AFTER THE SPEECH
[01:00:57] AND I TURNED ON C-SPAN. >> [MUSIC]
[01:00:59] >> I WAS ON C-SPAN, JUST THIS WEEK.
[01:01:03] >> TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, NOW
[01:01:05] IS THE TIME TO TUNE IN TO
[01:01:09] C-SPAN.
[01:01:17] >> SAYING, IN THE INTEREST OF NATIONAL SECURITY, WE ASK YOU TO
[01:01:20] RECONSIDER. CALL OFF THIS TRIP.
[01:01:24] UM, I WOULD TAKE YOU BACK TO,
[01:01:28] UH, JULY 31st. 2019. DURING
[01:01:31] TRUMP'S FIRST TERM. AND HE HAD A PRIVATE CONVERSATION WITH
[01:01:35] PUTIN. UH, THE WHITE HOUSE
[01:01:37] SPOKESPERSON SAID THAT THEY
[01:01:40] DISCUSSED WILDFIRES AND TRADE BETWEEN NATIONS. NO DROIDS IN
[01:01:43] THAT CAR. BUT THE FOLLOWING
[01:01:45] WEEK, ON AUGUST 2nd, THE DAILY
[01:01:47] BEAST'S BETSY SWAN REPORTED
[01:01:50] THAT TRUMP HAD THAT WEEK ASKED THE OFFICE OF THE DIRECTOR OF
[01:01:54] NATIONAL INTELLIGENCE TO PROVIDE HIM WITH A LIST OF ALL OF OUR
[01:01:57] INTELLIGENCE EMPLOYEES, WHICH INCLUDES ALL OF OUR SPIES. AND
[01:02:01] THE REQUEST HAD INTELLIGENCE
[01:02:04] EXPERIENCE. OFFICIALS
[01:02:06] EXPERIENCING, QUOTE, DISQUIET.
[01:02:08] THEN, PERHAPS JUST BY
[01:02:10] COINCIDENCE, UH, MONTHS AFTER TRUMP LEFT OFFICE WITH CASES OF
[01:02:14] CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS, WHICH PRESUMABLY INCLUDED THAT LIST OF
[01:02:18] ALL OF OUR SPIES, WHICH, AS FAR AS I'VE BEEN ABLE TO TELL, WE
[01:02:22] NEVER GOT BACK. THE NEW YORK
[01:02:26] TIMES RAN THIS STORY WITH THE HEADLINE, CAPTURED, KILLED, OR
[01:02:29] COMPROMISED. CIA ADMITS TO
[01:02:31] LOSING DOZENS OF INFORMANTS.
[01:02:33] THIS IS A, QUOTE, TOP AMERICAN
[01:02:36] OFFICIALS WARN, WARNED EVERY CIA STATION AND BASE AROUND THE
[01:02:39] WORLD LAST WEEK ABOUT TROUBLING
[01:02:41] NUMBERS OF INFORMANTS RECRUITED FROM OTHER COUNTRIES TO SPY FOR
[01:02:44] THE UNITED STATES, BEING CAPTURED OR KILLED. PEOPLE
[01:02:46] FAMILIAR WITH THE MATTER SAID.
[01:02:50] SO YOU KNOW, AND THEN, YOU KNOW,
[01:02:54] THERE WAS RAND PAUL WHO TOOK THAT SECRET PACKAGE THAT TRUMP
[01:02:57] GAVE HIM AND FLEW TO MOSCOW AND
[01:02:59] GAVE IT TO PUTIN, >> GAVE IT TO PUTIN'S PEOPLE.
[01:03:02] AND WE STILL DON'T KNOW WHAT WAS IN THAT. BUT THEN RAND PAUL CAME
[01:03:05] BACK AND, AND TRIED TO
[01:03:07] FILIBUSTER ANY FURTHER AID TO
[01:03:10] UKRAINE. I MEAN, SOMETHING SOMETHING WEIRD IS GOING ON
[01:03:14] HERE. SOMETHING VERY WEIRD IS
[01:03:15] GOING ON HERE. AND, UH, AS SARAH
[01:03:19] FITZPATRICK NOTES IN THE ATLANTIC, QUOTE, ANXIETY WITH
[01:03:22] THE AGENCY PATEL LEADS HAS ONLY
[01:03:27] GROWN UH, SHE SAID, AND THIS IS
[01:03:29] FASCINATING. SHE WRITES, WHEN PATEL TOOK OVER LEADERSHIP OF THE BUREAU IN FEBRUARY OF LAST
[01:03:33] YEAR, HE STRUCK A NOTABLY DIFFERENT TONE ON RUSSIA THAN
[01:03:35] THAT OF HIS PREDECESSORS. RATHER THAN REGARDING MOSCOW PURELY AS
[01:03:39] AN ENEMY. HE SOUGHT OUT AREAS
[01:03:42] WHERE THE TWO NATIONS CAN PARTNER, INCLUDING COMBATING
[01:03:46] TRANSNATIONAL VIOLENT CRIME AND CYBER FRAUD. HE SHARES THAT
[01:03:48] APPROACH WITH OTHER SENIOR OFFICIALS IN THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION, WHO HAVE
[01:03:52] CULTIVATED CLOSER TIES TO MOSCOW
[01:03:55] IN RECENT DAYS. TWO OF THE PRESIDENT'S TOP ADVISERS, JAMES
[01:03:58] BLAIR AND CHRIS LACIVITA LOUIS
[01:04:01] META, FOUND TIME AMID THE
[01:04:04] MIDTERM CAMPAIGNS TO VISIT REPUBLIKA SRPSKA TO ADVISE THE
[01:04:08] PRO ITS PRO RUSSIAN GOVERNMENT,
[01:04:09] ON VOTING ISSUES. SPECIAL ENVOY
[01:04:13] STEVE WITKOFF AND JARED KUSHNER HAVE BOTH SPENT CONSIDERABLE
[01:04:15] TIME WITH PUTIN AND DONALD TRUMP
[01:04:17] JR.. ACCEPTED A LAVISH WEDDING GIFT FROM A RUSSIAN OLIGARCH,
[01:04:21] UMAR KREMLEV, EARLIER THIS YEAR. A GOLD FRAMED PHOTO OF TRUMP
[01:04:25] WITH PUTIN WENT UP AT THE WHITE
[01:04:31] HOUSE. TRUMP ANNOUNCED THAT HE AND PUTIN HAD WORKED OUT A DEAL
[01:04:32] FOR THE IMPORTATION OF, UH, OF
[01:04:36] DIESEL FUEL. WHAT THEY'RE NOW, INSTEAD OF REFERRING TO RUSSIA
[01:04:39] AND CHINA AS OUR ADVERSARIES OR EVEN OUR COMPETITORS IN THE
[01:04:42] TRUMP WHITE HOUSE, THEY'RE NOW REFERRING TO THEM AS, QUOTE,
[01:04:46] NONTRADITIONAL PARTNERS. EXCUSE
[01:04:49] ME. IT'S COLD IN HERE. I MAY
[01:04:52] SNEEZE AGAIN. RUSSIA AND CHINA.
[01:04:55] PATEL PATEL DESCRIBED THIS IS AGAIN SARAH'S REPORTING. PATEL
[01:04:58] DESCRIBED EXTENSIVE BEHIND THE SCENES COOPERATION WITH RUSSIAN
[01:05:01] AUTHORITIES TO TARGET VIOLENT CRIMINAL NETWORKS. UH, THIS STUFF DOESN'T HAPPEN OVERNIGHT.
[01:05:04] HE SAID. WE'VE BEEN AT THIS FOR 15 MONTHS. SO FOR 15 MONTHS,
[01:05:08] WE'VE BEEN SUCKING UP TO RUSSIA
[01:05:11] AND TRYING TO BUILD BONDS AND
[01:05:13] AND BRIDGES TO RUSSIA. WHILE
[01:05:18] RUSSIA IS SLAUGHTERING OUR DEMOCRATIC ALLY IS THREATENING
[01:05:22] THE REST OF EUROPE IS THREATENING. CERTAINLY ESTONIA,
[01:05:25] LITHUANIA, LATVIA, AND POLAND HAS EXPLICITLY THREATENED THEM,
[01:05:29] HAS INVADED THEIR THEIR AIRSPACE AND THEIR SOVEREIGNTY MULTIPLE TIMES IN THE LAST COUPLE OF
[01:05:33] MONTHS. AND THE ASSUMPTION IS THAT THEY'RE JUST TESTING, YOU
[01:05:37] KNOW, WHAT'S GOING ON. HOW,
[01:05:39] HOW, WHEN DO PEOPLE RESPOND? AND WHEN SPEAKING WITH REUTERS, OUR
[01:05:43] FBI DIRECTOR CHARACTERIZED THE FBI'S RELATIONSHIP WITH RUSSIA
[01:05:47] AS, QUOTE, NEW AND DYNAMIC. SHE
[01:05:52] ALSO NOTES PATEL HAS SPENT YEARS ECHOING TRUMP'S CLAIMS THAT
[01:05:55] RUSSIAN INTERFERENCE IN THE 2016
[01:05:57] PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION WAS A HOAX
[01:06:01] SO IS KASH PATEL IN ON THIS,
[01:06:02] TOO? IS THIS WHY SO MANY FBI
[01:06:06] AGENTS HAVE BEEN FIRED IN? IS
[01:06:10] OUR FBI NOW BEING TAKEN OVER BY
[01:06:11] RUSSIA TO HERE'S THIS GUY.
[01:06:16] HE'S A HE WAS A SOCIAL MEDIA INFLUENCER AND A CHILDREN'S BOOK
[01:06:20] AUTHOR. AND HE'S RUNNING OUR FBI, YOU KNOW, JUST LIKE WE GOT
[01:06:24] A PLUMBER RUNNING DHS AND A
[01:06:26] WRESTLING BILLIONAIRE RUNNING OUR EDUCATION DEPARTMENT. YOU
[01:06:30] KNOW, I, A FAILED REALITY TV STAR RUNNING OUR AIRLINES, YOU
[01:06:33] KNOW, OUR TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT. IT'S JUST CRAZY.
[01:06:37] ANYHOW, WE'RE BACK.
[01:06:39] >> [MUSIC] >> MCKIBBEN.
[01:06:42] >> BILL SCANLAN.
[01:06:45] >> THIS IS THE THOM HARTMANN PROGRAM.
[01:06:48] >> HEY, WELCOME BACK TO THE SECOND HOUR OF OUR PROGRAM. ON
[01:06:51] THE LINE WITH US IS BILL MCKIBBEN, THE FOUNDER OF
[01:06:54] 350.ORG, THE AUTHOR OF THIRD ACT, AND 21 OTHER BOOKS, INCLUDING THE END OF NATURE.
[01:06:58] HE'S GOT A MARVELOUS SUBSTACK
[01:07:01] NEWSLETTER. IT'S BILL MCKIBBEN.SUBSTACK.COM. IT'S
[01:07:05] CALLED THE CRUCIAL YEARS, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, FROM BAD TO
[01:07:08] BETTER. BILL, WELCOME. WELCOME
[01:07:10] TO THE PROGRAM. TELL US ABOUT
[01:07:13] THIS ARC OF THE PHYSICAL UNIVERSE BENDS TOWARD HEAT, BUT MAYBE WE CAN BEND IT BACK. I
[01:07:16] LOVE THAT PHRASE. WELL, IT'S NICE TO HAVE YOU WITH US.
[01:07:19] >> IT'S GOOD TO BE WITH YOU. LONG TIME NO SPEAK, BROTHER.
[01:07:22] AND, UH, GLAD TO SEE YOU STILL
[01:07:25] ENGAGED IN YOUR CRUCIAL WORK. UM, SO, LOOK, I WAS JUST WRITING
[01:07:28] A LITTLE BIT, LAST WEEK ABOUT
[01:07:31] THE, UM, REMARKABLE EL NINO. NOW
[01:07:35] SET TO, UH, SET TO SORT OF
[01:07:37] ABORNING IN THE PACIFIC. WE CAN
[01:07:39] ALREADY SEE SOME OF ITS EFFECTS, BUT IT'S GETTING STRONGER BY
[01:07:42] THE DAY. UH, TEMPERATURES IN THE PACIFIC WILL PEAK SOMETIME IN
[01:07:46] LATE NOVEMBER. WHEN THEY DO,
[01:07:50] THEY'LL BE FAR, FAR HIGHER THAN WE'VE EVER OBSERVED IN ANY EL
[01:07:54] NINO BEFORE. THE NEW DATA TODAY
[01:07:56] INDICATES THIS MAY BE THE
[01:07:58] STRONGEST SUCH THING IN AT LEAST
[01:08:01] A THOUSAND YEARS. UH, THAT'S
[01:08:04] PROBABLY BECAUSE CLIMATE CHANGE
[01:08:05] IS MAKING EL NINO STRONGER, BUT
[01:08:10] IT'S DEFINITELY BECAUSE WHATEVER NATURAL CYCLE THIS IS, IS RIDING
[01:08:13] IN ON TOP OF THE ALREADY EXTREMELY ELEVATED TEMPERATURES
[01:08:16] THAT COME FROM BURNING LOTS OF
[01:08:18] COAL AND GAS AND OIL AND FILLING
[01:08:21] THE AIR WITH GREENHOUSE GAS
[01:08:23] EMISSIONS. SO WE'RE GOING TO BE
[01:08:26] IN FOR A WORLD OF HURT IN THE
[01:08:27] NEXT 12 MONTHS. UH, WE'RE GOING
[01:08:31] TO SEE TEMPERATURES HIGHER THAN ANY MEMBER OF OUR SPECIES HAS
[01:08:34] EVER EXPERIENCED ON THIS PLANET.
[01:08:36] AND, UM, ALL OF IT WILL BE A
[01:08:39] KIND OF PREVIEW OF NORMAL
[01:08:42] WEATHER, CIRCA 2035, 2040 ON OUR
[01:08:47] CURRENT CLIMATE TRAJECTORY. UM,
[01:08:49] ONE HOPES, ONE HOPES THAT IT
[01:08:52] WILL ALSO BE A SPUR TO GET OUR
[01:08:57] LEADERS ONCE AGAIN WORKING ON THE QUESTION. THEY WOULD JUST AS
[01:09:00] SOON IGNORE. UH, GETTING THE
[01:09:05] WORLD OFF FOSSIL FUEL AS FAST AS POSSIBLE, BECAUSE THAT'S THE
[01:09:08] ONLY TREATMENT WE'VE GOT FOR
[01:09:10] THE, UH, WORST, WORST DILEMMA
[01:09:12] THAT WE'VE EVER WANDERED INTO AS
[01:09:16] A CIVILIZATION. >> AND IRONICALLY, THIS WAR IN IRAN SEEMS TO BE PUSHING THE
[01:09:20] WORLD VERY RAPIDLY IN THAT DIRECTION. BILL.
[01:09:23] >> GIVE, UH, GIVE DONALD TRUMP,
[01:09:26] THE, UH, EV SALESMAN OF THE
[01:09:28] MONTH. YEAH. PLAQUE, UH, YOU
[01:09:33] KNOW, UM, HIS INSANE, UH, WAR,
[01:09:36] UH, ILL PLANNED, ILL CONCEIVED,
[01:09:40] ILL EXECUTED, UH, HAS REMINDED
[01:09:44] LEADERS ACROSS PLANET EARTH THAT THOSE SUNLIGHT HAS TO TRAVEL 93
[01:09:47] MILLION MILES TO REACH THE
[01:09:49] EARTH. NONE OF THOSE MILES GO THROUGH THE STRAIT OF HORMUZ,
[01:09:52] WHICH IS ALL OF A SUDDEN, A BIG
[01:09:55] MARKETING BONUS. UM, UH, SO,
[01:09:58] YEAH, UH, OF COURSE, THE PLACE
[01:10:00] WHERE WE'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING
[01:10:02] ABOUT THAT IS HERE IN THIS COUNTRY WHERE THE TRUMP
[01:10:06] ADMINISTRATION IS DOING
[01:10:08] EVERYTHING IT CAN TO SLOW DOWN
[01:10:11] THE, THE TRANSITION TO CHEAP, CLEAN, UH, LOCALLY.
[01:10:15] >> AVAILABLE SABOTAGE. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, LOOK AT HIM PAYING
[01:10:18] BILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO COMPANIES
[01:10:20] TO STOP BUILDING WINDMILLS AND
[01:10:22] SOLAR PANELS. >> BILLIONS OF BILLIONS OF OUR
[01:10:25] DOLLARS. ABSOLUTELY. THAT'S WHAT I KNOW. THAT'S WHAT I SIGNED UP
[01:10:28] FOR. TOM, TO, UH, HAND OVER MY
[01:10:31] MONEY TO BUY BACK THE WIND LEASES FOR. MAKE SURE THAT
[01:10:34] OFFSHORE WIND NEVER, EVER GETS
[01:10:38] DEVELOPED. UM, LOOK, IT'S WE
[01:10:43] ARE LIVING THROUGH A CRIMINAL.
[01:10:45] UH, PERIOD IN OUR COUNTRY. AN
[01:10:48] INSANE KIND OF BONFIRE, AS IT
[01:10:50] WERE, OF THE OLIGARCHS. UM, AND
[01:10:54] ONE HOPES THAT BEGINNING
[01:10:57] NOVEMBER 3rd, WILL START THE
[01:11:00] LABORIOUS AND PAINFUL PROCESS OF REBOOTING THIS SYSTEM. THAT'S
[01:11:03] WHAT I'M SPENDING ALL MY TIME WORKING ON. NOW. YOU'RE CATCHING ME AT A RARE DAY AT HOME,
[01:11:07] BECAUSE I'VE BEEN OUT ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL WITH THIRD ACT.
[01:11:11] THIS ORGANIZATION, WE STARTED
[01:11:13] FIVE YEARS AGO FOR OLD PEOPLE
[01:11:17] LIKE ME, ANYBODY OVER THE AGE OF
[01:11:18] 60. WE'VE NOW GOT 125,000
[01:11:23] MEMBERS AROUND THE COUNTRY. THEY ARE INCREDIBLY POLITICALLY
[01:11:27] ACTIVE. WE EVEN HAVE A A PAC, TOM. UH, BECAUSE WE'RE OLD,
[01:11:30] IT'S CALLED GRAY PAC, AND WE'RE
[01:11:34] THROWING WHAT ELBOWS WE CAN IN
[01:11:36] THIS ELECTION. I'VE, IN THE LAST
[01:11:39] WEEK, KNOCKED ON DOORS IN
[01:11:42] PENCIL. RURAL PENNSYLVANIA, IN BAKERSFIELD, CALIFORNIA. I WAS
[01:11:45] IN, UH, UM, CAPE ELIZABETH,
[01:11:49] MAINE, YESTERDAY, UH, ON TO MICHIGAN AND TEXAS THIS WEEK.
[01:11:52] UH, WE'RE, WE'VE GOT PEOPLE
[01:11:56] EVERYWHERE, UH, DOING IMMENSE AMOUNTS OF WORK IF THEY'RE
[01:12:00] HAPPENED, IF YOU HAPPEN TO HAVE, YOU PROBABLY DON'T. BUT IF YOU
[01:12:03] HAPPEN TO HAVE, UH, ANY OLD
[01:12:05] PEOPLE, UH, ANY EXPERIENCED
[01:12:08] AMERICANS, UH, AMONG YOUR, UH,
[01:12:11] VIEWERSHIP, THEY CAN GO TO THE
[01:12:14] WISE ELDERS. THAT'S IT. THEY
[01:12:18] CAN GO TO S T VOTE.ORG SLASH
[01:12:20] DOOR, KNOCK GRAY PAC. OKAY. AND
[01:12:23] FIND OUT HOW TO JOIN IN BECAUSE IT'S, UH, IT'S A LOT OF FUN.
[01:12:26] AND IT TURNS OUT, BY THE WAY,
[01:12:28] UH, THAT KNOCKING ON DOORS, UH,
[01:12:30] IS EASIER FOR OLDER PEOPLE.
[01:12:34] AMERICANS ARE NOT KEEN ALWAYS ANYMORE ON ANSWERING THE FRONT
[01:12:37] DOOR. UH, THEY SOMETIMES HIDE
[01:12:39] BEHIND THE RING DOORBELL, BUT IF
[01:12:42] IT'S A, UH, A NICE LOOKING,
[01:12:46] OLDER LADY OR GENTLEMAN OUT
[01:12:49] THERE ON THE STOOP, THEY'RE MORE
[01:12:50] LIKELY TO COME OUT, UH, AND
[01:12:55] SOMETIMES THEY REALLY ARE IMPRESSED. WHEN I WAS IN BAKERSFIELD, WE WERE KNOCKING
[01:12:59] DOORS IN 104 DEGREE HEAT, RECORD
[01:13:02] HEAT, AND LOTS OF PEOPLE WERE COMING OUT TO GIVE US WATER AND
[01:13:06] SAY, THANK YOU FOR TAKING PART IN OUR DEMOCRACY.
[01:13:09] >> THERE YOU GO. THAT'S S T
[01:13:13] VOTE. YST VOTE.ORG. >> UH, IT'S A IT'S A WONDERFUL
[01:13:15] GROUP CALLED SEED THE VOTE THAT
[01:13:17] WE WORK WITH. SO S T VOTE.ORG
[01:13:21] SLASH KNOCK PAC AND ALL ONE
[01:13:23] WORD.
[01:13:27] >> YEAH. GRAYPAC. AND, UH, YOU
[01:13:28] KNOW, I, I, I'VE FOLLOWED YOUR
[01:13:32] CAREER FOR YEARS, AND, YOU KNOW, YOU AND I HAVE KNOWN EACH OTHER FOR A LONG, LONG TIME. OH, YEAH.
[01:13:35] UM, AND, AND, BUT I'D NEVER THOUGHT OF YOU AS A POLITICAL
[01:13:38] GUY. UH, TALK ABOUT HOW THIS.
[01:13:42] >> ONLY ON, ONLY ON EVEN NUMBERED YEARS. >> YOU KNOW. >> IT SEEMS.
[01:13:45] >> YOU KNOW, TALK ABOUT HOW, HOW
[01:13:48] POLITICS IS LIKE, UH, SO INTRINSIC TO THIS IS HOW WE
[01:13:51] DETERMINE OUR FUTURE. THIS IS, THIS IS THE SYSTEM BY WHICH, YOU
[01:13:54] KNOW, IDEALLY, I MEAN, I THINK TRUMP IS TRYING TO TEAR THAT
[01:13:57] DOWN AND TRYING TO END IT. BUT
[01:13:59] THIS IS THE SYSTEM BY WHICH WE, WE DETERMINE HOW OUR CHILDREN
[01:14:02] AND GRANDCHILDREN ARE GOING TO LIVE, WHAT FUTURE GENERATIONS ARE GOING TO EXPERIENCE. IT'S
[01:14:06] REALLY IMPORTANT STUFF. >> OH, YOU KNOW, AND, AND
[01:14:10] SOMETIMES IT'S QUITE MOVING STUFF. YOU KNOW, I, I GOT TO
[01:14:14] INTRODUCE BERNIE, UH, THE DAY
[01:14:15] THAT HE ANNOUNCED HE WAS RUNNING
[01:14:19] FOR PRESIDENT IN 2016, WE HAD A RALLY ON THE SHORE OF LAKE
[01:14:22] CHAMPLAIN. AND THE THREE PEOPLE
[01:14:23] WHO INTRODUCED HIM WERE ME AND
[01:14:27] BEN AND JERRY. AND, AND, YOU KNOW, I REMEMBER THINKING, OH,
[01:14:30] THIS MAY BE THE BIGGEST CROWD THAT BERNIE GETS IN THIS WHOLE
[01:14:34] CAMPAIGN. A MONTH LATER, I WAS
[01:14:36] INTRODUCING HIM AT HYNES
[01:14:38] AUDITORIUM IN BOSTON TO 50,000
[01:14:40] SCREAMING FANS. UH, HE
[01:14:44] DEMONSTRATED IN THE COURSE OF A COUPLE OF MONTHS THAT THERE WAS
[01:14:47] A HUGE APPETITE IN AMERICA FOR
[01:14:49] PROGRESSIVE CHANGE. AND THAT
[01:14:51] WAS, TO ME, A JUST COMPLETELY
[01:14:55] POWERFUL REMINDER THAT THERE IS
[01:14:57] LOTS AND LOTS THAT CAN BE DONE.
[01:15:02] IT'S ELECTORAL POLITICS IS ONLY PART OF WHAT WE DO. WHAT I DO AS AN ORGANIZER. WE'VE SPENT THE
[01:15:06] LAST YEAR PUSHING STATE
[01:15:09] LEGISLATURES TO DO PERMITTING FOR, UH, WHAT WE CALL BALCONY
[01:15:12] PLUG IN SOLAR. WE'VE MANAGED TO
[01:15:16] CONVINCE 12 STATES TO LEGALIZE IT THIS SPRING. NEXT SUMMER,
[01:15:20] WE'LL BE HAVING A HUGE GLOBAL
[01:15:22] DAY OF ACTION AROUND SOLAR
[01:15:24] ENERGY CALLED SUN DAY. UH,
[01:15:26] THAT'LL TRY AND PUSH, UH, THE
[01:15:29] ENTIRE WORLD IN THE DIRECTION OF THE CHEAP, CLEAN ENERGY THAT'S
[01:15:32] NOW, UH, YOU KNOW, REMIND US THAT WE NOW LIVE ON A PLANET
[01:15:35] WHERE THE CHEAPEST WAY TO MAKE POWER IS TO POINT A SHEET OF
[01:15:38] GLASS AT THE SUN. BUT POLITICS
[01:15:40] IS THE TRANSMISSION GEAR OF, UH,
[01:15:44] GOOD POLICY, YOU KNOW, UH, IT DOESN'T. YOU CAN HAVE ALL THE
[01:15:47] SCIENTISTS AND POLICY PEOPLE IN THE WORLD COMING UP WITH SMART
[01:15:51] IDEAS AND TIMELY WARNINGS. AND
[01:15:55] IF YOUR POLITICAL SYSTEM IS COMPLETELY CONTROLLED BY THE
[01:15:58] POWERS THAT BE, IN THIS CASE, BY BIG OIL, THEN YOU'RE NOT GOING
[01:16:02] TO GET DONE WHAT NEEDS DOING. SO
[01:16:05] THAT'S WHY WE'RE OUT PUSHING.
[01:16:08] WE NEED A CONGRESS THAT CAN ACT
[01:16:10] AS A BRAKE ON, UH, THE
[01:16:13] PRESIDENT, THE TWO THINGS THAT THIRD ACT CARES ABOUT ARE TWO
[01:16:16] COMMITMENTS ARE TO CLIMATE AND TO DEMOCRACY. AND THE ATTACK ON
[01:16:20] BOTH IS OBVIOUSLY WELL UNDERWAY.
[01:16:25] AND SO HENCE, OUR EFFORT AT A DEFENSE. >> HOW DO PEOPLE FIND THIRD ACT
[01:16:28] AND SIGN UP FOR YOUR GROUP?
[01:16:31] >> THIRD ACT.ORG. OH, THAT'S EASY. AND YOU KNOW, TOM, PEOPLE
[01:16:34] SAID WHEN WE STARTED FIVE YEARS
[01:16:38] AGO, THAT ORGANIZING OLD PEOPLE WAS PROBABLY A FOOL'S ERRAND,
[01:16:41] THAT AS WE GROW OLDER, WE BECOME
[01:16:43] MORE CONSERVATIVE. I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THAT WAS TRUE AT ONCE
[01:16:47] UPON A TIME, BUT IT'S NOT TRUE.
[01:16:50] NOW, IF YOU'RE IN YOUR 60s, 70s
[01:16:52] 80s NOW, IT MEANS YOUR FIRST ACT
[01:16:54] WAS IN THAT PERIOD OF SOCIAL,
[01:16:59] ENVIRONMENTAL, POLITICAL TRANSFORMATION IN THE 60s, LATE
[01:17:02] 60s, EARLY 70s, THE APEX OF THE CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT. THE
[01:17:05] MOMENT WHEN WE STARTED TAKING
[01:17:09] WOMEN SERIOUSLY IN PUBLIC LIFE, THE FIRST EARTH DAY THAT DREW 20
[01:17:10] MILLION AMERICANS, 10% OF THE
[01:17:14] THEN POPULATION, INTO THE STREETS AND GAVE US THE CLEAN
[01:17:16] AIR ACT AND THE CLEAN WATER ACT.
[01:17:19] WITHIN 18 MONTHS. SO THESE ARE
[01:17:21] PEOPLE WHO HAVE MUSCLE MEMORY OF
[01:17:23] THE FACT THAT PEOPLE POWER CAN
[01:17:26] WORK. AND IT'S INCREDIBLY
[01:17:30] WONDERFUL TO SEE THEM SUMMONING
[01:17:32] IT AGAIN AND GETTING THIS JOB
[01:17:34] DONE. I CANNOT TELL YOU HOW MUCH
[01:17:38] I ADMIRE THE PEOPLE THAT WE WORK
[01:17:40] WITH, ALL THE WAY UP INTO THEIR,
[01:17:42] YOU KNOW, TRIPLE DIGITS. UM,
[01:17:45] IT'S TRULY INSPIRING. >> I JUST HAVE LIKE, UH, 55
[01:17:49] SECONDS HERE UNTIL WE HIT A HARD BREAK. BUT, UM, IT SEEMS TO ME
[01:17:52] THAT A COALITION IS FORMING BETWEEN ZOOMERS. YOU KNOW, THE YOUNGER, THE YOUNGEST GENERATION
[01:17:56] COMING UP RIGHT NOW, AND BOOMERS. AM I, AM I JUST.
[01:18:00] >> I THINK YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY
[01:18:02] RIGHT. WE WORK HARD TO SUPPORT YOUNG PEOPLE WHEREVER THEY CAN.
[01:18:05] AND ON MANY OF THESE ISSUES, YOU KNOW, FOR THE YOUNG, FOR YOUNG
[01:18:08] PEOPLE, WE HEAR A LOT OF TALK ABOUT THINGS LIKE CLIMATE
[01:18:11] ANXIETY. YEAH. THEY'RE ANXIOUS ABOUT WHAT THE TEMPERATURE IS
[01:18:14] GOING TO BE, BUT THEY'RE MORE ANXIOUS ABOUT THE FACT THAT
[01:18:17] THEY'VE BEEN ABANDONED TO DEAL
[01:18:18] WITH IT BY THEMSELVES. WE NEED
[01:18:22] TO DEMONSTRATE THAT THAT IS NOT TRUE. >> RIGHT? NOT TO MENTION THAT
[01:18:25] THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, FROM THE POWELL MEMO FORWARD, UH, YOU
[01:18:29] KNOW, AND THE REAGAN REVOLUTION
[01:18:32] AND THE NEOLIBERAL REVOLUTION, AND EVEN THE CLINTON EMBRACE OF NEOLIBERALISM THAT WE'VE JUST
[01:18:35] SEEN THE DESTRUCTION OF THE
[01:18:38] MIDDLE CLASS. AND, UH, YOU KNOW, WHICH IS WHY BERNIE'S IDEAS AND
[01:18:42] THE NEW DEAL IDEAS ARE SO POPULAR AGAIN. I THINK THE GREAT BILL MCKIBBEN, THE FOUNDER OF
[01:18:45] 350.ORG, THIRD ACT.ORG, UH, BILL
[01:18:51] MCKIBBEN.SUBSTACK.COM. AND HANG
[01:18:52] ON JUST A SECOND. IT'S, UH, S T
[01:18:56] VOTE.ORG/DOORKNOCK. GRAY PACK. PAC. BILL, THANKS SO MUCH FOR DROPPING BY.
[01:19:00] >> THANK YOU BROTHER. >> GREAT TO SEE YOU. YEAH. THANK YOU. I'LL BE BACK WITH MORE OF
[01:19:04] THE NEWS OF THE DAY AND YOUR
[01:19:05] CALLS IN JUST A MOMENT.
[01:19:08] >> [MUSIC]
[01:19:14] >> THIS IS THE THOM >> [MUSIC] >> HARTMANN PROGRAM.
[01:19:17] >> IT'S THE PLACE WHERE SMART PEOPLE GET >> [MUSIC]
[01:19:20] >> THEIR NEWS. WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK.
[01:19:22] >> [MUSIC] [MUSIC]
[01:19:36] >> WELCOME BACK. JD IN TULSA, OKLAHOMA. HEY, JD, WHAT'S ON
[01:19:39] YOUR MIND TODAY? >> UH.
[01:19:43] >> JUST MY BELIEF THAT, UM. >> THE REASON THAT WE'RE GETTING
[01:19:46] OIL FROM RUSSIA NOW.
[01:19:48] >> IS SO UKRAINE I'M
[01:20:00] >> IF YOU'VE GOT YOUR TV ON OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, YOU JUST NEED TO TURN IT DOWN, OR IT'LL
[01:20:04] JUST DISTRACT THE HECK OUT OF YOU. BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, IT SEEMS
[01:20:07] TO ME LIKE PART OF THIS PLAN IS FOR TRUMP TO HAVE AN EXCUSE TO,
[01:20:11] TO RAG ON UKRAINE FOR STRIKING
[01:20:16] RUSSIAN OIL FACILITIES. IS THAT, IS THAT WHERE YOU WERE GOING? >> ABSOLUTELY.
[01:20:20] >> YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. YEAH. THANK YOU. YEAH. I THINK THAT'S WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT. I THINK, YOU
[01:20:24] KNOW, TRUMP IS, UH, IS. AND I THINK THAT'S WHY PUTIN SUGGESTED
[01:20:28] IT TO TRUMP. AND I MEAN, YOU
[01:20:30] KNOW, YES, GIVE AMERICA, WHAT, THREE DAYS WORTH OF DIESEL. AND
[01:20:33] IN EXCHANGE FOR THAT, UKRAINE,
[01:20:36] UKRAINE IS NO LONGER ALLOWED TO USE WEAPONRY AGAINST RUSSIA.
[01:20:39] IT'S JUST IT'S SAD. JD THANK YOU. YOU NAILED IT. YOU ABSOLUTELY NAILED IT.
[01:20:42] >> NO THANK YOU. >> YEAH. I APPRECIATE. >> THE CALL. >> GOOD DAY. YOU, TOO. ROGER IN
[01:20:46] SEATTLE. HEY, ROGER. WHAT'S ON YOUR MIND TODAY?
[01:20:50] >> WELL, IT'S GREAT THAT YOU HAD SOMEBODY FROM OKLAHOMA.
[01:20:52] BECAUSE I WANT TO TALK ABOUT
[01:20:55] MARKWAYNE MULLIN. BUT THE OTHER
[01:21:00] IGNORING BY YOUR PREVIOUS ANSWER IS THE NEWS ITEM THAT INSURERS
[01:21:03] ARE NOT GOING TO START LOWERING
[01:21:06] THEIR INSURANCE PRICES UNTIL
[01:21:08] THEY DON'T, YOU KNOW, DON'T
[01:21:11] LISTEN TO THE LIES OF TRUMP. SO
[01:21:12] WHEN THEY SEE OTHER
[01:21:16] CONFIRMATION, THEN THE INSURANCE PRICES WILL START LOWERING ON
[01:21:19] ALL THOSE SHIPS THAT GO THROUGH
[01:21:20] THE STRAIT OF HORMUZ. NOW,
[01:21:24] MARKWAYNE MULLIN IS ALSO FROM OKLAHOMA. AS AN ENROLLED
[01:21:27] CHEROKEE MEMBER. UH, ON THIS DAY
[01:21:30] OF INDIGENOUS, UH, YOU KNOW,
[01:21:34] AMERICA. SO WHEN I THINK ABOUT
[01:21:36] HOW HIS CONVERSATIONS, WHEN HE
[01:21:40] GETS BACK TO OKLAHOMA, AND MAYBE
[01:21:42] HE IS WILLING TO TALK TO SOME OF
[01:21:45] HIS FELLOW TRIBAL MEMBERS, SOME,
[01:21:48] NOT ALL OF THEM ARE GOING TO
[01:21:51] AGREE WITH, WITH TRUMP. UH, NEXT TO THE NAVAJOS, IT SEEMS LIKE
[01:21:54] THE CHEROKEES ARE ONE OF THE
[01:21:56] BIGGEST TRIBES IN AMERICA. SO
[01:22:01] IMAGINE, WITH ALL OF THE, UM,
[01:22:04] DEFENSIVE AND, UH, BACK, UH,
[01:22:09] PEDALING, HE'S GOING TO HAVE TO DO EVERY TIME SOMEBODY SAYS, WELL, WHY DID YOU DO THIS WHEN
[01:22:12] YOU WERE A DHS? ET CETERA. ET
[01:22:15] CETERA. AND IMAGINE ALL THE DHS
[01:22:18] SLOWDOWNS. HE'S GOING TO GET TO
[01:22:20] EXPERIENCE. ONE OF THE BIGGEST PROBLEMS WITH NATIVE AMERICANS
[01:22:24] IS THAT THEY GET IDENTIFIED AS
[01:22:27] ASIANS, UH, HISPANICS, AND MAYBE
[01:22:31] EVEN ARABS, AND MAYBE HE'LL GET AN ICE PULLOVER, OR MAYBE HE'LL
[01:22:34] GET A TSA SLOWDOWN, OR MAYBE HIS
[01:22:38] BOAT IN THE MIDDLE OF OKLAHOMA WILL GET A COAST GUARD
[01:22:41] INSPECTION, YOU KNOW, MORE EVERY WEEK OR SOMETHING.
[01:22:45] >> YEAH, I JUST, JUST BECAUSE,
[01:22:49] BECAUSE HE'S PART NATIVE AMERICAN. >> HE LOOKS LIKE A HISPANIC.
[01:22:52] >> NOT, NOT BECAUSE YOU'RE EXPECTING A FUTURE DEMOCRATIC
[01:22:54] ADMINISTRATION TO, TO GO ON SOME KIND OF REVENGE BINGE OR SOMETHING.
[01:22:58] >> NO, I, I HAD A NICE WEEK LONG
[01:23:02] VISIT TO EL PASO WITH A CHURCH
[01:23:04] GROUP TO CHECK OUT SOME
[01:23:10] COOPERATION WITH THE PRESBYTERIAN AND METHODIST
[01:23:13] CHURCHES ABOUT PROVIDING SHELTER TO MIGRANTS BECAUSE.
[01:23:17] >> WELL. >> YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST ACROSS THE BORDER FROM JUAREZ, ISN'T
[01:23:21] IT? YEAH. WHATEVER. THE SISTER
[01:23:23] CITY IS FROM EL PASO. YEAH. AND A LOT OF THE DHS PEOPLE AT THE
[01:23:26] TIME, THIS IS LIKE SIX YEARS
[01:23:28] AGO, THEY WERE VERY SYMPATHETIC
[01:23:32] TO, YOU KNOW, HAVING TO. >> THERE'S BEEN A COMPLETE CULTURE.
[01:23:35] >> SHIFT AS THEY CAN. >> YEAH. ROGER, I GOT TO RUN. I'M SORRY, BUT THANK YOU. THANK
[01:23:38] YOU, AND GOOD ON YOU
[01:23:50] >> [MUSIC] >> TIRED OF SPIN AND BILLIONAIRE
[01:23:53] BACKED NEWS. THE COMMONWEALTH REPORT DELIVERS TRUTH WITH
[01:23:56] BACKBONE NEWS FOR THE PUBLIC, NOT THE POWERFUL. TWICE DAILY.
[01:23:58] NO FLUFF, NO FEAR. GO TO
[01:24:02] COMMONWEALTH REPORT.NEWS AND SUBSCRIBE NOW. DEMOCRACY BELONGS
[01:24:06] TO YOU. SO, HAVE YOU NOTICED
[01:24:08] THAT THE REPUBLICAN
[01:24:37] >> AT NOON EASTERN MONDAY THROUGH >> [MUSIC] >> FRIDAY, AND THEN AT 3 P.M. EASTERN, MONDAY THROUGH
[01:24:40] THURSDAY, CONSERVATIVE RADIO HOST HUGH HEWITT HOSTS THE HUGH
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[01:24:51] MOBILE VIDEO APP. THE ROAD TO
[01:24:56] THE >> [MUSIC] >> CAPITOL RUNS THROUGH AMERICA'S BATTLEGROUND STATES,
[01:24:59] AND C-SPAN IS THERE. OUR CAMERAS ARE ON THE GROUND FOLLOWING THE
[01:25:02] CAMPAIGNS WHERE THE TOUGHEST RACES WILL DECIDE THE BALANCE OF
[01:25:06] POWER IN CONGRESS. WE'RE THE ONLY NATIONAL TELEVISION NETWORK
[01:25:09] PROVIDING THIS LEVEL OF UNFILTERED ACCESS TO THE
[01:25:12] CANDIDATES, THE VOTERS, AND THE
[01:25:14] ISSUES SHAPING CAMPAIGN 2026. NO COMMENTATORS TELLING YOU WHAT TO
[01:25:18] THINK. NO PARTIZAN SPIN. THE
[01:25:19] ROAD TO THE CAPITOL. ONLY ON
[01:25:23] C-SPAN
[01:25:31] >> JUST. HOMELAND SECURITY
[01:25:33] INVESTIGATIONS, WHICH MY
[01:25:36] UNDERSTANDING IS H. SI IS
[01:25:38] BASICALLY IN TIGHT WITH ICE. OR
[01:25:40] MAYBE EVEN AS PART OF ICE. I'M
[01:25:43] NOT. I YOU KNOW, I'M NOT CERTAIN
[01:25:46] OF THE EXACT NATURE OF THIS, BUT IT'S IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S THE H.
[01:25:49] SI GUYS WHO ARE WITH THE ICE
[01:25:52] GUYS MORE OFTEN THAN NOT. SO
[01:25:54] THEY JUST BUSTED INTO HER HOME
[01:25:58] THIS MORNING. AND, UH, AND TORE
[01:26:00] IT APART. AND APPARENTLY THE STATEMENT FROM THE HOMELAND
[01:26:04] SECURITY INVESTIGATION SAYS THIS ENFORCEMENT ACTION IS PART OF AN
[01:26:08] ONGOING FEDERAL INVESTIGATION.
[01:26:11] UM, THIS MIGHT BE IN RESPONSE TO
[01:26:14] ILHAN OMAR. UH, JUST LAST WEEK,
[01:26:16] AFTER AN ICE THUG, UH, SHOT A
[01:26:20] GUY WITH HIS FIVE YEAR OLD SON IN THE, IN THE VEHICLE, PUT
[01:26:23] SEVEN, SEVEN BULLETS INTO HIS
[01:26:24] VEHICLE. UM, SHE POSTED ON
[01:26:27] SATURDAY. ICE IS OUT OF CONTROL THIS WEEK. A FIVE YEAR OLD CHILD
[01:26:30] WATCHED ICE SHOOT HIS FATHER. TRUMP'S ROGUE AGENCY HAS SHOT
[01:26:34] MORE THAN 43 PEOPLE IN TWO YEARS, MURDERING EIGHT. THERE IS
[01:26:38] NO REFORMING THIS ABHORRENT
[01:26:39] AGENCY. ABOLISH ICE. SO HERE YOU
[01:26:42] HAVE A MEMBER OF CONGRESS, BUT
[01:26:45] ALSO SHE'S GOT DARK SKIN.
[01:26:48] SHE'S A AND SHE'S A AN
[01:26:53] IMMIGRANT. AND SO THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THE STACK WRIGHT FOR, FOR
[01:26:56] STEPHEN MILLER GET ALL THOSE BROWN PEOPLE OUT OF AMERICA, AND
[01:26:59] DON'T LET ANY MORE IMMIGRANTS IN UNLESS THEY ARE WHITE SOUTH
[01:27:02] AFRICANS. AND IN FACT, UH, WITH
[01:27:05] THREE EXCEPTIONS, THREE AFGHAN
[01:27:08] PEOPLE WITH THOSE THREE INDIVIDUAL EXCEPTIONS, EVERY
[01:27:12] SINGLE PERSON THAT HAS BEEN LEGALLY ADMITTED INTO THE UNITED STATES SINCE TRUMP TOOK OFFICE
[01:27:15] ON JANUARY 20th OF LAST YEAR, HAS BEEN A WHITE SOUTH AFRICAN.
[01:27:18] EVERY. SINGLE ONE. THAT'S IT.
[01:27:22] THAT'S ALL WE'RE LETTING IN. AND WE ARE KICKING OUT BROWN PEOPLE AND BLACK PEOPLE AS FAST
[01:27:26] AS WE CAN, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT
[01:27:29] MAGA REALLY IS ALL ABOUT, IS MAKE AMERICA WHITE AGAIN. AND
[01:27:32] THIS, THIS RACIST CAMPAIGN. AND,
[01:27:36] UH, AND THIS, THIS, I THINK
[01:27:37] STARTED WHEN LAURA LOOMER, UH,
[01:27:41] LAST MONTH WAS, YOU KNOW, POSTING TO MARKWAYNE MULLIN SAYING, WHY DON'T YOU, WHY
[01:27:44] DON'T YOU INVESTIGATE LAURA LOOMER OR, EXCUSE ME, UH, ILHAN
[01:27:48] OMAR. AND SURE ENOUGH, HERE WE ARE. >> [MUSIC]
[01:27:52] >> AMAZING STUFF. I'LL BE BACK
[01:27:56] WITH MORE OF THE NEWS OF THE DAY >> [MUSIC] >> IN YOUR CALLS IN JUST A MOMENT. IT'S 27 MINUTES PAST
[01:27:59] THE HOUR. AND THE THOM HARTMANN PROGRAM, THE PLACE WHERE DESPAIR
[01:28:01] IS NOT AN OPTION. STICK AROUND.
[01:28:05] >> YOU'RE LISTENING TO THE THOM
[01:28:07] HARTMANN
[01:28:11] >> [MUSIC] >> PROGRAM. CALL 2028089925. >> AND NOW TRUMP IS LAUNCHING A
[01:28:14] PROBE INTO AN ANTITRUST PROBE,
[01:28:17] INTO THE NEWS NETWORKS. I'LL TELL YOU ABOUT THAT IN A.
[01:28:19] >> SECOND.
[01:28:30] >> [MUSIC]
[01:28:41] >> RADIO SIMULCAST WITH >> [MUSIC] >> VOICES FROM ACROSS THE POLITICAL SPECTRUM THIS WEEK,
[01:28:44] PROGRESSIVE COMMENTATOR THOM HARTMANN HOSTS THE THOM HARTMANN PROGRAM FROM PORTLAND, OREGON,
[01:28:48] AT NOON EASTERN MONDAY THROUGH >> [MUSIC] >> FRIDAY, AND THEN AT 3 P.M.
[01:28:52] EASTERN MONDAY THROUGH THURSDAY. CONSERVATIVE RADIO HOST HUGH HEWITT HOSTS THE HUGH HEWITT
[01:28:55] SHOW FROM WASHINGTON, D.C. WATCH
[01:28:58] LIVE. ALL THIS MONTH, ON C-SPAN
[01:29:00] 2, ONLINE AT C-SPAN .ORG OR ON
[01:29:03] C-SPAN. NOW, OUR FREE MOBILE VIDEO APP.
[01:29:06] >> COMMONWEALTH REPORT.NEWS. DID
[01:29:11] TRUMP JUST HAND PUTIN A GIFT? WHILE AMERICAN DRIVERS GET NOTHING, DONALD TRUMP JUST CUT A
[01:29:14] DEAL WITH VLADIMIR PUTIN. ON FRIDAY, HE ANNOUNCED RUSSIA WILL
[01:29:18] SHIP 300,000 TONS OF DIESEL
[01:29:20] RIGHT AWAY, 500,000 MORE IN
[01:29:22] NOVEMBER, THAN A MILLION THAN ANOTHER 3 MILLION. AFTER THAT,
[01:29:26] HIS TREASURY DEPARTMENT EASED
[01:29:28] SANCTIONS ON RUSSIAN DIESEL INTO
[01:29:30] APRIL OF 2027. THIS COMES ONE
[01:29:32] MONTH AFTER TRUMP SIGNED A LAW MEANT TO CHOKE OFF THE MONEY.
[01:29:35] THE OIL MONEY THAT PAYS FOR PUTIN'S WAR. UKRAINE'S PRESIDENT
[01:29:39] ZELENSKY CALLED IT A GIFT TO PUTIN AND WARNED, QUOTE, RUSSIA
[01:29:43] WILL REPAY THE DIESEL WITH FURTHER TERROR AND PERFIDY. AND
[01:29:46] ENERGY EXPERTS SAY IT PROBABLY WON'T LOWER PRICES. MUCH DIESEL
[01:29:49] SITTING AT 628 A GALLON, DRIVEN UP BY TRUMP'S OWN WAR WITH
[01:29:53] IRAN. SO PUTIN GETS CASH FOR HIS
[01:29:55] WAR MACHINE. UKRAINE GETS MORE
[01:29:57] BOMBS, AND AMERICAN AND TRUCKERS AND FARMERS GET A PRESS RELEASE.
[01:30:01] ARE TRUMP'S TARIFFS CRUSHING THE VERY FACTORIES HE PROMISED TO
[01:30:04] SAVE? ASKED DOUG RUNDY. HE RUNS
[01:30:08] SHAPES UNLIMITED, AN ALUMINUM PRODUCTS MANUFACTURER IN NORTH
[01:30:11] JACKSON, OHIO. TRUMP'S ALUMINUM
[01:30:13] TARIFFS CLIMBED FROM 10 TO 20 5%
[01:30:16] TO 50%, AND RANDY SAYS THEY'RE COSTING HIM UPWARDS OF 4.5 TO $5
[01:30:20] MILLION THIS YEAR ALONE. END
[01:30:22] QUOTE. SHIPPING SURCHARGES TIED
[01:30:24] TO THE IRAN WAR ARE AS HIGH AS
[01:30:27] $6,500 A CONTAINER, SO HE STOPPED HIRING, AND HE'S BUYING
[01:30:31] ROBOTS INSTEAD. OVER IN WARREN,
[01:30:33] COUNTERTOP MAKER SAM MILLER PAYS TARIFFS ON MATERIALS FROM ASIA
[01:30:36] AND CAN'T EXPAND INTO CANADA, WHERE TRADE TALKS COLLAPSED IN
[01:30:40] AUGUST. CANADA BUYS A THIRD OF EVERYTHING. OHIO EXPORTS. THE SUPREME COURT STRUCK DOWN MANY
[01:30:44] OF THESE TARIFFS. TRUMP PUT THEM
[01:30:46] RIGHT BACK. TARIFFS ARE SOLD AS A GIFT TO WORKING PEOPLE, BUT
[01:30:49] THEY'VE TURNED INTO A TAX ON
[01:30:51] THE FOLKS WHO ACTUALLY MAKE THINGS. WELL. TEXAS POLITICIANS
[01:30:54] NOW DECIDE WHAT EVERY PROFESSOR
[01:30:56] IS ALLOWED TO TEACH. THE
[01:31:00] ATLANTIC REPORTS THAT THAT STATE, THE STATE NOW CONTROLS WHAT PROFESSORS CAN TEACH. UNDER
[01:31:04] A LAW WRITTEN BY FORMER REPUBLICAN STATE SENATOR BRANDON
[01:31:07] CREIGHTON. REGENTS. REGENTS. PICKED BY GOVERNOR GREG ABBOTT
[01:31:11] HOLD POWER OVER THE CURRICULUM.
[01:31:13] TEXAS A&M AND TEXAS TECH
[01:31:15] RESTRICTED TEACHING ABOUT RACE, GENDER, AND SEXUAL ORIENTATION.
[01:31:19] A&M SHUT DOWN ITS WOMEN'S AND
[01:31:21] GENDER STUDIES DEGREE. UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS REGENTS
[01:31:24] VOTED TO LIMIT WHAT THEY CALL, QUOTE, UNNECESSARY,
[01:31:27] CONTROVERSIAL SUBJECTS. ONE A&M PHILOSOPHY PROFESSOR SAID HE
[01:31:30] WASN'T ALLOWED TO TEACH PLATO.
[01:31:32] ANOTHER WAS FIRED AFTER A LESSON ON GENDER IDENTITY, AND SHE'S
[01:31:36] SUING A NEW STATE OFFICE NOW
[01:31:39] INVESTIGATES COMPLAINTS ABOUT PROFESSORS IN A GOVERNMENT THAT
[01:31:41] PICKS WHICH IDEAS ARE LEGAL IN A
[01:31:44] CLASSROOM IS TRAINING,
[01:31:46] OBEDIENCE, AND DEMOCRACY CAN'T
[01:31:49] SURVIVE ON THAT. HOW MANY MORE MATERNITY WARDS WILL CLOSE
[01:31:51] BEFORE REPUBLICANS ADMIT WHAT THEY DID? THE GUARDIAN REPORTS
[01:31:55] 52 MATERNITY WARDS HAVE CLOSED SINCE JULY OF LAST YEAR, WHEN
[01:31:59] TRUMP'S BIG, BEAUTIFUL BILL BECAME LAW. ANOTHER EIGHT HAVE ANNOUNCED THEY'RE CLOSING,
[01:32:03] ACCORDING TO THE GROUP PROTECT
[01:32:05] OUR CARE. THAT BILL CUT NEARLY $1 TRILLION FROM MEDICAID, AND
[01:32:08] MEDICAID PAYS FOR MORE THAN 40%
[01:32:11] OF BIRTHS IN AMERICA. HOSPITALS IN VIRGINIA AND RURAL GEORGIA
[01:32:13] POINTED TO THE COMING CUTS WHEN THEY SHUT DOWN THEIR UNITS FOR
[01:32:16] GOOD. THE MARCH OF DIMES SAYS 31 MORE RURAL HOSPITALS ARE AT
[01:32:20] RISK, AND IF THEY GO, 96 COUNTIES LOSE THEIR LAST PLACE
[01:32:24] TO DELIVER A BABY. SENATOR RON WYDEN WARNED THIS SUMMER, QUOTE,
[01:32:28] MATERNITY WARDS ACROSS AMERICA ARE SHUTTERING THEIR DOORS. AND
[01:32:31] THE WORST OF IT, INCLUDING WORK
[01:32:33] REQUIREMENTS, DOESN'T EVEN START UNTIL JANUARY. THEY TOOK HEALTH
[01:32:36] CARE FROM MOTHERS AND BABIES TO PAY FOR BILLIONAIRE TAX CUTS.
[01:32:40] REMEMBER THAT IN NOVEMBER, J.D.
[01:32:43] VANCE TELLS A BLACK SENATE CANDIDATE SHE DOESN'T BELONG IN
[01:32:46] AMERICA. AT A CAMPAIGN STOP IN LAKELAND, FLORIDA, ON OCTOBER 1st, THE VICE PRESIDENT WENT
[01:32:49] AFTER ANGIE NIXON, THE DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE FOR U.S.
[01:32:53] SENATE. THE FLORIDA PHOENIX REPORTS. HE SAID SHE DOESN'T
[01:32:56] BELONG IN AMERICA, AND C-SPAN VIDEO SHOWS HIM TELLING HER TO
[01:32:59] GET THE HELL OUT OF THE COUNTRY IF SHE'S A SOCIALIST. NIXON IS
[01:33:03] BLACK. HER FAMILY'S BEEN IN FLORIDA FOR GENERATIONS. SHE
[01:33:07] FIRED BACK FRIDAY, QUOTE, I DON'T NEED JD VANCE'S
[01:33:11] PERMISSION TO BELONG HERE. AND SHE POINTED OUT THAT THE SENATOR
[01:33:13] ADVANCES SIDE. ASHLEY MOODY WAS NEVER ELECTED. MOODY WAS
[01:33:17] APPOINTED IN 2025 TO MARCO RUBIO'S SEAT. NIXON CALLED THE
[01:33:21] ATTACK A DESPERATE DISTRACTION FROM RISING INSURANCE, RENT AND
[01:33:24] HEALTH CARE COSTS, TELLING BLACK AMERICANS TO LEAVE THE COUNTRY
[01:33:27] IS ONE OF THE OLDEST AND UGLIEST TRICKS IN OUR POLITICS. IT
[01:33:31] DESERVES AN ANSWER AT THE BALLOT
[01:33:33] BOX. TRUMP RAGES AT NORWAY AFTER THE NOBEL PRIZE GOES TO SOMEONE
[01:33:37] ELSE. THE NOBEL PEACE PRIZE WENT
[01:33:40] FRIDAY TO NAVI PILLAY. THE 85
[01:33:42] YEAR OLD SOUTH AFRICAN JURIST
[01:33:44] WHO DEFENDED ANTI-APARTHEID
[01:33:47] ACTIVISTS, JUDGED THE RWANDA
[01:33:49] GENOCIDE TRIALS AND LATER RAN HUMAN RIGHTS FOR THE UN. DONALD
[01:33:53] TRUMP DIDN'T TAKE IT WELL. AT A RALLY IN SYRACUSE, NEW YORK, HE
[01:33:56] CALLED HER A MYSTERY PERSON AND WARNED THAT WE WILL NOT FORGET
[01:34:00] NORWAY. THEN HE POSTED THAT HE SHOULD HAVE WON EIGHT NOBEL
[01:34:02] PRIZES, ONE FOR EACH WAR. HE CLAIMS HE SETTLED AND CALLED THE
[01:34:06] DECISION AN INDELIBLE STAIN ON
[01:34:09] NORWAY. SMALL PROBLEM. NORWAY'S
[01:34:11] GOVERNMENT. GOVERNMENT DOESN'T PICK THE WINNER. AN INDEPENDENT
[01:34:14] COMMITTEE DOES. PILL GOT THE NEWS AT A CONFERENCE IN NUREMBERG AND TOLD THE CHEERING
[01:34:18] ROOM, IF YOU CLAP A LITTLE BIT MORE, I MAY SHARE THIS PRIZE
[01:34:21] WITH TRUMP, A MAN WHO THREATENS A COUNTRY OVER A TROPHY HAS TOLD
[01:34:24] YOU EVERYTHING ABOUT WHY HE DIDN'T GET IT. AND THAT'S THE
[01:34:28] WAY IT IS TODAY. MONDAY, OCTOBER
[01:34:30] 12th, 2026. I'M THOM HARTMANN
[01:34:34] >> [MUSIC] [MUSIC]
[01:34:46] >> YOU WERE PROMISED SOMETHING. WORK HARD, PLAY BY THE RULES,
[01:34:47] AND YOU'D OWN A HOME, RAISE A FAMILY, AND RETIRE WITH DIGNITY.
[01:34:51] THAT WAS THE DEAL. IT WAS CALLED THE AMERICAN DREAM. SO WHAT
[01:34:53] HAPPENED? WELL, IT DIDN'T DIE. IT WAS KILLED. AND WE KNOW WHO
[01:34:57] DID IT WHEN THEY DID IT AND HOW THEY GOT AWAY WITH IT. WHO
[01:35:01] KILLED THE AMERICAN DREAM? THE GREATEST POLITICAL CRIME EVER
[01:35:04] TOLD. A NEW BOOK BY ME, THOM HARTMANN. THAT'S WHO KILLED THE
[01:35:07] AMERICAN DREAM. THE GREATEST
[01:35:10] POLITICAL CRIME EVER TOLD
[01:35:12] >> [MUSIC] >> WELCOME BACK. 34 MINUTES PAST
[01:35:16] THE HOUR. SO THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT HAS LAUNCHED AN
[01:35:19] INVESTIGATION INTO WHETHER CBS,
[01:35:22] ABC, NBC, CNN AND FOX NEWS HAVE
[01:35:26] ENGAGED IN A CRIMINAL CONSPIRACY THAT COULD RESULT IN MILLIONS OF
[01:35:30] DOLLARS OF FINES AND ANY OF THEIR EXECUTIVES SPENDING UP TO
[01:35:33] TEN YEARS IN PRISON UNDER UNDER
[01:35:36] THE SHERMAN ANTITRUST ACT AND
[01:35:39] SUBSEQUENT LEGISLATION, THE
[01:35:41] CLAYTON ANTITRUST ACT OF 1927,
[01:35:43] THE ANTITRUST ACT OF 1956. NONE
[01:35:47] OF WHICH HAVE BEEN ENFORCED, BY
[01:35:48] THE WAY, BY THIS ADMINISTRATION.
[01:35:52] WE HAD SOME EARLY ENFORCEMENT,
[01:35:54] SOME EFFORTS TO ENFORCE THOSE ACTS BY LINA KHAN WHEN SHE WAS
[01:35:58] WORKING AT THE FEDERAL TRADE COMMISSION FOR JOE BIDEN. BUT
[01:36:02] NOW WE'VE GOT ANOTHER, YOU KNOW, STOOGE FOR THE FOR THE
[01:36:05] BILLIONAIRE CLASS RUNNING THE FEDERAL TRADE COMMISSION. AND SO
[01:36:08] WE'RE JUST LETTING THESE GIANT
[01:36:11] MONOPOLIES RUN AMOK IN OUR GROCERIES ARE COSTING MORE. AND
[01:36:15] OUR FUEL IS COSTING BASICALLY EVERYTHING. YOUR INTERNET, UH,
[01:36:17] YOUR, YOUR CELL PHONE. I MEAN,
[01:36:19] YOU NAME AN INDUSTRY THAT'S NOT
[01:36:22] PART OF A, ESSENTIALLY A MONOPOLY OR WHAT'S CALLED MONOPSONY, WHICH IS WHERE YOU
[01:36:26] HAVE FEWER THAN FIVE COMPANIES
[01:36:28] THAT CONTROL MORE THAN 80% OF THE MARKET AND ACT LIKE A CARTEL
[01:36:31] AND FIX PRICES. YOU KNOW, DELTA
[01:36:34] RAISES THEIR PRICES 2%. AMERICAN DOES FIVE MINUTES LATER. RIGHT.
[01:36:37] THAT'S THAT'S WHAT A MONOPSONY
[01:36:39] IS. SO ANYHOW, THEY'RE ACCUSING
[01:36:42] THESE FIVE NETWORKS OF DOING WHAT THEY'RE ALLOWING ALL THESE
[01:36:45] OTHER COMPANIES TO DO. AND, AND
[01:36:49] THE REASON WHY, OF COURSE, IS BECAUSE WHEN TRUMP BANNED
[01:36:52] POLITICO, CNN, AND MSNBC FROM
[01:36:55] THE, UH, YOU KNOW, FROM, FROM
[01:36:59] COVERING HIS WHITE HOUSE, THESE OTHER FIVE NETWORKS SAID, OKAY,
[01:37:01] THAT'S IT. WE'RE PULLING THE, THE POOL COVERAGE, WHICH THEY
[01:37:05] ROTATE AND SO THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE IS TRYING TO SAY, WELL,
[01:37:09] THAT'S A VIOLATION OF THE ANTITRUST LAWS, WHICH IS NOT, BY
[01:37:12] THE WAY, THE ANTITRUST LAWS. I MEAN, WHO IS THE VICTIM HERE?
[01:37:16] RIGHT? TRUMP IS CLAIMING THAT HE'S THE VICTIM. I'M SORRY. THE ANTITRUST LAWS DON'T WORK THAT
[01:37:20] WAY. ANTITRUST LAWS ARE DESIGNED
[01:37:21] TO PROTECT CONSUMERS. AND I
[01:37:25] THINK YOU COULD ARGUE THAT THE CONSUMERS ARE THE PEOPLE WATCHING THE NEWS WHO WANT TO
[01:37:28] KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON. AND, YOU KNOW, MAYBE TRUMP IS GOING TO
[01:37:32] TRY AND MAKE AN ARGUMENT THAT BY NOT COVERING HIM, THEY'RE
[01:37:35] DENYING PEOPLE THAT. BUT, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD BE PRETTY THIN
[01:37:38] ICE. I THINK. ALL RIGHT. WHAT'S ON YOUR MIND TODAY, JOHN AND
[01:37:42] CASHMERE, WASHINGTON. HEY, JOHN. >> WHAT'S UP
[01:37:46] >> TOM. THANKS FOR TAKING MY CALL. >> MY PLEASURE. >> UM, I WONDERED IF I COULD
[01:37:49] JUST RUN THROUGH A QUICK CHECKLIST OF. WITH A END POINT
[01:37:53] IN MIND HERE. SURE. UM SO TRUMP
[01:37:58] AND HIS ADMINISTRATION BLUNDER INTO A WHAT THEY THOUGHT WAS
[01:38:02] GOING TO BE A CAKEWALK ATTACK ON
[01:38:04] IRAN. IT WAS, NUMBER ONE. UH,
[01:38:08] IRAN RETALIATES BY CLOSING THE STRAIT OF HORMUZ, WHICH WAS
[01:38:11] PRETTY PREDICTABLE. YEAH. UM,
[01:38:13] OIL AND GAS PRICES START TO
[01:38:17] CLIMB AND SUPPLIES DROP. ALSO,
[01:38:20] PREDICTABLE. UM, TRUMP STARTS TO
[01:38:22] QUIETLY EMPTY THE, UH, STRATEGIC OIL RESERVE. >> RIGHT. IT'S LOWER THAN IT'S
[01:38:26] EVER BEEN RIGHT NOW.
[01:38:29] >> TO ARTIFICIALLY LOWER PRICES.
[01:38:31] AND, AND MAKE HIMSELF LOOK
[01:38:34] BETTER. UM, REPORTS START TO FILTER OUT THAT THE, UH,
[01:38:38] APPARENTLY IT'S STORED IN CAVERNS THAT ARE SALT. >> YEAH. SALT CAVERNS. AND YOU
[01:38:42] CAN'T REPLACE THEM WITH VENEZUELAN OIL, WHICH IS WHAT HE SAYS HE'S GOING TO DO AFTER HE
[01:38:46] SNATCHED, YOU KNOW, BILLIONS FROM VENEZUELA. AND THAT MONEY
[01:38:48] IS MISSING, BY THE WAY, FROM THE SALE OF VENEZUELA.
[01:38:52] >> THE REPORTS. REPORTS LEVELS
[01:38:56] ARE GETTING SO LOW THAT THE CAVERNS ARE IN DANGER OF
[01:39:00] COLLAPSING. >> YEAH
[01:39:01] >> UM, THEN HE TRIES TO FLOAT
[01:39:04] THE IDEA THAT SOMEHOW THESE PRICES AND SHORTAGES ARE THE FAULT OF THE UKRAINIANS FOR
[01:39:07] ATTACKING RUSSIA. YEAH. RUSSIAN
[01:39:10] REFINERIES AND TANKERS. UH, WHEN
[01:39:12] THAT DIDN'T FLY, HE THEN TRIED
[01:39:16] TO ASK EUROPEANS TO START EMPTYING THEIR RESERVES, WHICH,
[01:39:19] OF COURSE, THEY'RE TOO SMART TO DO ACTUALLY.
[01:39:23] >> A FEW OF THEM ARE, BUT. YEAH.
[01:39:28] . >> UM, NOW, NOW HE'S, HE'S, UH,
[01:39:30] ENTERING, TRYING TO ENTER INTO,
[01:39:32] INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH PUTIN.
[01:39:35] THE RUSSIANS TO SHIP THEIR OIL TO THE U.S..
[01:39:38] >> OR THEIR REFINED DIESEL. >> YES. UM, YEAH. THERE. YEAH.
[01:39:41] UM, I HEARD A COUPLE OTHER INTERESTING THINGS THIS MORNING
[01:39:46] THAT, UH, ONE WAS THAT WITKOFF.
[01:39:47] AND, UM, UH, KUSHNER HAD STARTED
[01:39:52] THE ARRANGEMENTS FOR THIS
[01:39:54] AGREEMENT A WHILE BACK ON A
[01:39:57] EARLIER VISIT RUSSIA. YEP. AND ANOTHER INTERESTING THING I HEARD THIS MORNING THAT I
[01:40:00] HAVEN'T FOUND YET A SOURCE FOR,
[01:40:03] BUT THAT, UM, THE IRANIANS ARE
[01:40:06] SHIPPING OVERLAND OIL, GAS
[01:40:08] SUPPLIES TO RUSSIA. UM, IS ALSO
[01:40:14] AN INTERESTING WRINKLE THERE. >> YEAH.
[01:40:16] >> UM, AND THEN THE THIS? AND
[01:40:22] WE'RE GETTING SUPPLIES FROM
[01:40:25] RUSSIA. UM OIL TANKERS AND
[01:40:28] REFINERIES ARE A LEGITIMATE
[01:40:30] TARGET FOR UKRAINE. UM, WHAT
[01:40:33] KIND OF SCENARIO DOES IT SET UP WHEN UM RUSSIANS ARE SHIPPING
[01:40:37] OIL TO US THROUGH, FOR INSTANCE,
[01:40:42] THE BLACK SEA AND UKRAINE LEGITIMATELY ATTACKS THEM SINCE THEY'RE BEING ATTACKED ON THEIR
[01:40:45] ENERGY SECTOR. YEAH. WHAT KIND OF INTERESTING SCENARIO DOES
[01:40:49] THAT SET UP MILITARILY?
[01:40:50] >> I WOULD BE ASTONISHED IF
[01:40:53] UKRAINE ATTACKED ANY, ANY PRODUCT THAT WAS DESTINED FOR
[01:40:55] THE UNITED STATES. I MEAN, ZELENSKY IS JUST NOT THAT DUMB.
[01:40:58] WHAT HE DID SAY THIS MORNING
[01:41:01] WAS, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE PUTIN IS THE APOLOGIST FOR PUTIN, ARE
[01:41:05] SAYING, WELL, UKRAINE SHOULD HOLD ELECTIONS. AND, OF COURSE,
[01:41:08] YOU KNOW, UH, PUTIN WANTS THAT TO HAPPEN BECAUSE HE THINKS HE CAN INFLUENCE THE UKRAINIAN
[01:41:12] ELECTIONS LIKE HE DID BEFORE. YOU KNOW, HE HE BASICALLY OWNED
[01:41:15] THE, THE GUY WHO PRECEDED, UH,
[01:41:20] ZELENSKY. AND, UH, SO ZELENSKY CAME OUT AND SAID, COOL, GIVE ME
[01:41:23] A 60 DAY CEASE FIRE WHERE YOU DO NOT HIT US AT ALL FOR 60 DAYS.
[01:41:27] AND WE'LL HOLD ELECTIONS AND
[01:41:30] RUSSIA IS NOW GOING, WELL, WE DIDN'T REALLY MEAN IT. I MEAN,
[01:41:34] I'M NOT SURE WE EVEN SAID THAT.
[01:41:37] >> SO I'D LIKE TO GIVE A LITTLE
[01:41:38] SHOUT OUT, SHOUT SOMEBODY FROM
[01:41:46] UKRAINE IS LISTENING THAT HAS ANY INFLUENCE. I'D LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU FOR HITTING THE
[01:41:49] RUSSIAN DATA CENTERS. UH,
[01:41:52] BECAUSE APPARENTLY THE BOT TRAFFIC HAS DROPPED DRAMATICALLY.
[01:41:55] >> ON X TRAFFIC. SUDDENLY YOU'RE
[01:41:57] NOT GETTING ATTACKED ON X AND FACEBOOK, RIGHT?
[01:42:01] >> THAT BOT TRAFFIC WOULD WOULD
[01:42:03] BE USED TO PROP UP THE REPUBLICANS AND TRUMP DURING THE
[01:42:06] NEXT ELECTION. SO HIT AWAY ZELENSKY. >> YEAH. IT ALSO.
[01:42:10] >> MAKES EVERY ONE OF THEM YOU CAN. >> YEAH. IT ALSO MAKES ALL THAT
[01:42:12] BOT TRAFFIC MAKES AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF MONEY FOR MARK
[01:42:15] ZUCKERBERG AND FOR ELON MUSK ON FACEBOOK AND X, BECAUSE, YOU
[01:42:19] KNOW, THOSE BOTS ARE, UH, PRESUMABLY SEEN ADS IN QUOTES,
[01:42:23] JUST LIKE ALL THE REST OF US. FASCINATING STUFF. GREAT JOB,
[01:42:26] GREAT TIMELINE. JOHN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, PAUL AND ZILLAH
[01:42:29] WASHINGTON. HEY, PAUL, WHAT'S UP
[01:42:34] >> UH, I'M A BROKEN RECORD. SO FIRST I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT TO
[01:42:37] SUSIE THAT I OFTEN CALL ON THE SAME SUBJECT. AT MATTEO DOES
[01:42:40] COMMENT ABOUT IT. OKAY. UH THEN
[01:42:44] OCTOBER 17th, NO KINGS VOTE EARLY. THIS IS HOW MILLIONS OF
[01:42:48] PEOPLE RESPOND TO THE MAGA
[01:42:50] MILITIA. YOU GET OUT ON THE
[01:42:53] STREET PEACEFULLY AND HOLD UP A
[01:42:55] SIGN. YEAH. AND I WANT THIS TO BE THE BIGGEST EVENT EVER. EVERY
[01:42:58] NO KINGS EVENT HAS BROKEN RECORDS FOR THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE
[01:43:01] ENGAGED IN A PEACEFUL PROTEST,
[01:43:03] AND I WANT IT TO HAPPEN AGAIN. SO SATURDAY, THEY'RE
[01:43:07] EVERYWHERE. AND IF THERE ISN'T ONE CLOSE TO YOU, YOU STILL HAVE
[01:43:10] TIME TO SIGN UP TO BE A HOST.
[01:43:13] >> THERE YOU GO. AND INDIVISIBLE.ORG. MY RANT. YEAH. WELL DONE PAUL. THANK YOU VERY
[01:43:17] MUCH. >> NO, KINGS.ORG IS WHERE THIS
[01:43:19] IS BEING. UH, SO YOU GO TO NO
[01:43:22] KINGS.ORG. IT WILL HAVE A MAP OF THE UNITED STATES TO HELP YOU
[01:43:26] FIND THE EVENT NEAR YOU. YOU CLICK ON THE DOT AND IT TAKES YOU TO THE INFORMATION AS TO
[01:43:30] TIME AND PLACE. >> THANK YOU. PAUL. MARVELOUS PUBLIC SERVICE THAT YOU JUST
[01:43:33] DID. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, ANNIE.
[01:43:35] IN WATERTOWN, WISCONSIN. HEY,
[01:43:37] ANNIE, THANKS FOR LISTENING TO WRRD. WHAT'S UP?
[01:43:40] >> HI. A FEW YEARS AGO, A LADY
[01:43:43] CALLED FETCHING ABOUT, UH, CORNYN STANDING IN THE FIELDS,
[01:43:46] AND THE FARMERS. AND. I DON'T KNOW, YOU THOUGHT THAT WAS SMART
[01:43:49] OF HER AND WHATEVER, AND IT WASN'T. AND I WAS GOING TO CALL
[01:43:52] THEN. BUT NOW I AM CALLING. UM,
[01:43:55] FARMERS LEAVE THEIR CORN IN THE
[01:43:58] FIELDS SOMETIMES TO DRY UP WHEN
[01:44:01] THEY TAKE IT INTO THEIR CO-OP,
[01:44:05] YOU KNOW, TO SILO. IT'S MEASURED
[01:44:08] FOR MOISTURE. UH SO USE LP. YEAH. >> DRY IT. RIGHT. SO THIS WOULD
[01:44:12] BE FOR CORN THAT'S GOING TO BE USED AS ANIMAL FEED, NOT SWEET
[01:44:16] CORN THAT HUMANS EAT.
[01:44:18] >> THERE'S VERY LITTLE SWEET CORN FOR. YEAH. >> YEAH, THAT'S.
[01:44:22] >> KIND OF, I MEAN, EVERYTHING,
[01:44:23] EVERYTHING GOES TO, UM, ETHANOL
[01:44:28] AND >> YEAH. OKAY. >> YEAH. >> PARDON MY INTERRUPTING YOU,
[01:44:32] ANNIE, BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT, MAKE THAT DISTINCTION.
[01:44:36] >> YEAH. UM, AND SOMETIMES THE FARMERS LEAVE SOME UP FOR DEER
[01:44:39] HUNTING, YOU KNOW, FOR THE DEER
[01:44:41] TO HIDE IN. SO THEY KNOW. BUT
[01:44:43] YEAH, IT STAYS, YOU KNOW, UM, IT'S WHENEVER THEY GET AROUND TO
[01:44:47] IT, YOU KNOW, IT'S GOT TO BE JUST WHERE THEY WANT IT. AND WHEN THEY HAVE TIME AND, YOU
[01:44:51] KNOW, SO LIKE THAT LADY A FEW YEARS AGO WAS THINKING THEY
[01:44:54] WERE, YOU KNOW, SLOUGHING OFF OR
[01:44:58] SOMETHING. WHY AREN'T THE FARMERS OUT THERE? YOU KNOW,
[01:45:00] IT'S LIKE, WELL, NO, THEY GOT
[01:45:03] TO BE, YOU KNOW, NOT JUST RIPE.
[01:45:07] AND, AND DRY LOOKING. IT'S GOT TO BE DRY ALL THE WAY THROUGH AS
[01:45:10] MUCH DON'T GET AS MUCH MONEY.
[01:45:14] IF THE CO-OP'S GOT TO SPEND A LOT OF LP TO DRY. >> IT, RIGHT. BECAUSE THEY
[01:45:16] DON'T WANT TO SPEND MONEY ON WATER, BASICALLY. YEAH, IT MAKES
[01:45:19] PERFECT SENSE. ANNIE, I AND
[01:45:21] THANK YOU FOR CONFIRMING MY BELIEF THAT THIS SHOW HAS THE
[01:45:25] SMARTEST LISTENERS IN THE WORLD.
[01:45:26] ANNIE, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE INFORMATION. I APPRECIATE THE
[01:45:30] CALL. IT'S GREAT TO HEAR FROM
[01:45:32] YOU. IT'S JUST ABOUT 45 MINUTES PAST THE HOUR. WE'LL BE IN JUST A COUPLE SECONDS. WE'LL BE RIGHT
[01:45:36] BACK WITH MORE OF YOUR CALLS IN
[01:45:38] JUST A MINUTE. STAY WITH US.
[01:45:41] >> [MUSIC]
[01:45:49] >> YOU'RE LISTENING TO THOM
[01:45:52] HARTMANN. VISIT THOM
[01:45:54] HARTMANN.COM FOR AUDIO AND VIDEO ARCHIVES. >> EXPOSING THE CON IN
[01:45:58] CONSERVATIVE. I'LL BE RIGHT BACK
[01:45:59] WITH YOU
[01:46:06] >> [MUSIC]
[01:46:16] >> AND WELCOME BACK, BYRON. IN BATON ROUGE, LOUISIANA. BYRON,
[01:46:20] WHAT'S ON YOUR MIND TODAY
[01:46:23] >> TOM. UM, I WANTED TO TALK
[01:46:25] ABOUT THE 2016 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION WITH BERNIE SANDERS.
[01:46:29] IF, IF HE HAD BEEN THE NOMINEE. WELL, FIRST OF ALL, HE WASN'T
[01:46:33] THE NOMINEE. THEY THEY ANOINTED HILLARY. YOU KNOW, THE SUPERDELEGATES. IT WAS MY
[01:46:37] UNDERSTANDING THAT THEY DIDN'T WANT BERNIE TO BE THE NOMINEE.
[01:46:41] IF HE HAD BEEN THE NOMINEE, HE WOULD HAVE BEATEN TRUMP. HE WOULD HAVE WON THE POPULAR VOTE
[01:46:45] LIKE HILLARY DID. BUT HE ALSO WOULD HAVE WON THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE VOTE, AND HE WOULD HAVE
[01:46:48] WON REELECTION IN 2020, BECAUSE
[01:46:51] HE WOULD HAVE HANDLED COVID BETTER THAN TRUMP DID. AND SO WE
[01:46:54] WOULD HAVE HAD EIGHT YEARS OF
[01:46:56] BERNIE SANDERS. AND JUST THINK OF THE IMPLICATIONS OF THAT, HOW
[01:47:00] THIS COUNTRY WOULD BE DIFFERENT. NOW, WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO DEAL
[01:47:03] WITH THE TARIFFS. THE IRAN WAR, THE MASSIE, ICE AGENTS, THE
[01:47:07] THREE SUPREME COURT JUSTICES THAT TRUMP NOMINATED THAT GUTTED
[01:47:10] THE VOTING RIGHTS ACT AND OVERTURNED ROE V WADE. THE
[01:47:13] THREE, YOU KNOW, THE TWO IMPEACHMENTS OF TRUMP, THE
[01:47:17] EPSTEIN FILES, THE ALIGNMENT WITH PUTIN. JUST THINK HOW THIS
[01:47:20] COUNTRY WOULD BE SO MUCH BETTER
[01:47:22] OFF IF WE HAD JUST NOMINATED
[01:47:25] BERNIE SANDERS IN 2016, INSTEAD OF HILLARY TO RUN AGAINST TRUMP,
[01:47:28] AND TRUMP WOULD HAVE DISAPPEARED. AND IT'S THE
[01:47:31] DEMOCRATS FAULT. THEY ALLOW
[01:47:33] TRUMP TO BE, YOU KNOW, PRESIDENT, BECAUSE THEY NOMINATED. THEY NOMINATED
[01:47:37] HILLARY. AND ALL HER MESSAGE WAS, IS I'M A WOMAN AND I'M NOT
[01:47:40] TRUMP. SO VOTE FOR ME. >> I THINK. >> IT'S IMPORTANT. IN THE END, BERNIE WOULD HAVE BEEN
[01:47:44] DIFFERENT. HE WOULD HAVE BEATEN TRUMP EASILY IN THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE. AND HE WOULD TRUMP.
[01:47:47] >> YOU'RE GETTING REDUNDANT HERE. BUT BYRON, I AGREE WITH
[01:47:51] YOUR ANALYSIS. UM, HILLARY DID
[01:47:54] GET 3 MILLION MORE VOTES THAN DONALD TRUMP DID IN 2016. IT'S
[01:47:58] JUST THAT SHE. >> DIDN'T AGREE. >> WITH THAT. COLLEGE. UM, BUT
[01:48:02] MY TAKE ON THIS IS THAT
[01:48:06] BASICALLY SINCE 2005, ROUGHLY,
[01:48:09] OR 2006, AMERICA HAS BEEN
[01:48:12] WANTING A CHANGE AWAY FROM THE,
[01:48:15] THE, THE REAGANISM ON THE REPUBLICAN SIDE AND
[01:48:18] NEOLIBERALISM ON THE, ON THE CLINTON SIDE, ON THE DEMOCRATIC SIDE, AND WANTED.
[01:48:22] >> THEY GOT THAT WITH BERNIE. >> AND. EXACTLY. AMERICA HAS
[01:48:26] WANTED TO RETURN TO FDR, NEW
[01:48:28] DEAL, YOU KNOW, ECONOMICS THAT BUILT THE FIRST AND LARGEST,
[01:48:32] MORE THAN 50% OF THE COUNTRY, MIDDLE CLASS IN THE HISTORY OF THE WORLD. AND WE'RE NOW DOWN TO
[01:48:36] 41% OF US BEING IN THE MIDDLE
[01:48:39] CLASS. UM, AND, AND, AND BERNIE,
[01:48:41] WAS THAT CHANGE AGENT. AND DONALD TRUMP MARKETED HIMSELF AS THAT CHANGE AGENT. AND THAT'S
[01:48:45] WHY HE ENDED UP IN THE WHITE HOUSE. AND, AND CLINTON DID NOT,
[01:48:48] SHE DID NOT MARKET HERSELF AS A CHANGE AGENT. SHE MARKETED
[01:48:52] HERSELF AS THE STATUS QUO, YOU KNOW, STRONG AND STEADY AND, YOU
[01:48:55] KNOW, WELL EXPERIENCED AND ALL THAT KIND OF THING. UM, AND, UH,
[01:48:58] IT WAS JUST, IT WAS THE WRONG
[01:49:00] TIME. AND, AND SAME THING. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, OBAMA CAME ALONG
[01:49:04] HOPE AND CHANGE, RIGHT? PEOPLE WANTED A CHANGE AGENT. AND THEN,
[01:49:07] YOU KNOW, HE DIDN'T, HE KIND OF,
[01:49:09] YOU KNOW, DIDN'T DELIVER ALL
[01:49:11] THAT MUCH AS, AS, UM, ABDUL
[01:49:14] EL-SAYED HAS POINTED OUT AND, YOU KNOW, WHICH IS HURTING HIM,
[01:49:18] I THINK. UM, BUT IT'S TRUE. AND,
[01:49:21] UH, YOU KNOW, JOE BIDEN, ON THE OTHER HAND, GOT A HELL OF A LOT
[01:49:25] DONE IN HIS FOUR YEARS. AND IF
[01:49:27] HE HAD KEPT HIS WORD AND JUST
[01:49:30] SAID, OKAY, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY. AND, YOU
[01:49:32] KNOW, WE GET A STRONG CANDIDATE, WE WOULD, I BELIEVE WE WOULD
[01:49:35] HAVE GOTTEN A GOOD, STRONG,
[01:49:37] PROGRESSIVE, YOU KNOW, RUNNING
[01:49:40] IN 2024. AND THEY WOULD HAVE EATEN TRUMP'S LUNCH. BUT WHAT CAN YOU DO? I MEAN, THIS, UH, AT
[01:49:44] A CERTAIN POINT, BYRON, SOUR
[01:49:47] GRAPES JUST, YOU KNOW, DON'T TASTE GOOD. YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT
[01:49:51] TO. >> YEAH. I MEAN, YOU CAN'T CHANGE THE PAST. >> YEAH. WE GOT TO MOVE BEYOND
[01:49:54] IT. I WAS, I WAS PLEASED WHEN
[01:49:56] DONNA BRAZILE AND HER AUTOBIOGRAPHY APOLOGIZED TO
[01:49:59] BERNIE FOR HER ROLE IN SABOTAGING HIM IN 2016. BYRON,
[01:50:03] THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE CALL. NICE TO HEAR FROM YOU. IT'S 49 MINUTES PAST THE HOUR.
[01:50:07] I'LL BE BACK WITH MORE OF YOUR
[01:50:09] CALLS IN JUST ONE MINUTE. STAY WITH US.
[01:50:12] >> [MUSIC]
[01:50:32] >> HEY, THANKS SO MUCH FOR SHARING OUR PROGRAM AND FOR
[01:50:36] REACHING OUT TO OUR STATIONS AND SPONSORS AND LETTING THEM KNOW THAT YOU'RE LISTENING. IT
[01:50:38] REALLY MEANS A LOT TO US. SO MAGA, MIKE AND THE REPUBLICANS
[01:50:42] WANT A RELIGIOUS TEST FOR PEOPLE RUNNING FOR PUBLIC OFFICE. THEY
[01:50:46] WANT TO KNOW THAT YOU ARE SUFFICIENTLY CHRISTIAN TO BE
[01:50:50] WORTHY OF BEING ELECTED WRIGHT
[01:50:53] MAGA MIKE IS ONE OF THESE SEVEN
[01:50:55] MOUNTAIN EVANGELICALS. THERE ARE
[01:50:58] SEVEN DOMAINS WHERE THESE DOMINIONISTS BELIEVE THAT WE
[01:51:00] NEED TO HAVE RELIGION COMPLETELY TAKE THEM OVER EDUCATION,
[01:51:03] RELIGION, FAMILY, BUSINESS, GOVERNMENT, MILITARY, ARTS AND
[01:51:07] ENTERTAINMENT, AND THE MEDIA. SERIOUSLY, THIS IS NOT WHAT
[01:51:11] JESUS WAS PREACHING WHEN HE SAID, GIVE UNTO CAESAR WHAT IS
[01:51:14] CAESAR? AND ONTO ON TO GOD. WHAT IS GOD'S? THIS IS THE OPPOSITE,
[01:51:18] IN FACT, OF WHAT JESUS WAS TEACHING. IT'S THE OPPOSITE OF
[01:51:21] MATTHEW 25, WHERE JESUS SAID,
[01:51:23] THE ONLY WAY TO GET TO HEAVEN IS
[01:51:26] BY FEEDING THE HUNGRY, HEALING THE SICK, HELPING THE POOR.
[01:51:28] IT'S. THIS IS COUNTER CHRISTIAN ANTI-CHRISTIAN. IN FACT. IN
[01:51:32] FACT, I THINK YOU COULD SAY IT
[01:51:36] IS THE ANTICHRIST'S WORK. THERE'S A PIECE ABOUT IT OVER
[01:51:39] HARTMAN REPORT.COM. CHECK IT OUT.
[01:51:42] >> [MUSIC] >> WELCOME BACK. NINE MINUTES
[01:51:46] BEFORE THE HOUR. PETE IN
[01:51:47] CHICAGO. HEY, PETE. WHAT'S UP
[01:51:54] >> CALLING ON ILHAN OMAR. AND THIS SEARCH WARRANT THAT WAS
[01:51:57] ISSUED. IT HAS ALL THE EARMARKS
[01:51:59] OF BEING, UM, FROM THE FOREIGN
[01:52:03] INTELLIGENCE SURVEILLANCE COURT,
[01:52:04] WHICH IS A SECRET STAR CHAMBER
[01:52:08] COURT, 11 SITTING JUDGES, ALL
[01:52:10] APPOINTED BY, YOU GUESSED IT,
[01:52:14] JOHN ROBERTS, INFLUENCING OUR
[01:52:19] ELECTION WITHIN 30 DAYS OF THE ELECTION. AND THE ONE THING THAT
[01:52:22] WE CAN AND SHOULD DO IS FIND OUT
[01:52:24] WHICH OF THESE 11 JUDGES ISSUED
[01:52:27] THAT SEARCH WARRANT AND BRING
[01:52:32] SUNLIGHT TO THIS SECRET STAR CHAMBER COURT. >> THAT'S RIGHT. WE'RE WITHIN.
[01:52:35] I MEAN, JAMES COMEY DID THE SAME THING TO HILLARY CLINTON IN
[01:52:39] 2016. WE'RE WITHIN 90 DAYS OF
[01:52:40] THE ELECTION. THIS IS WHEN THE DOJ POLICY IS EVEN IF YOU'VE GOT
[01:52:44] EVIDENCE AGAINST SOMEBODY, YOU DON'T. YOU DON'T EXPLOIT IT
[01:52:47] UNTIL AFTER THE ELECTION.
[01:52:50] >> EXACTLY.
[01:52:53] >> YEAH. REMARKABLE. UM, YOU DON'T WE DON'T KNOW THAT THIS
[01:52:57] WAS A FISA COURT WARRANT, THOUGH. >> DO WE KNOW? >> BUT IT'S SECRET. AND
[01:53:01] NORMALLY THE SEARCH WARRANT
[01:53:03] WOULD BE PUBLICLY DISCLOSED IN
[01:53:05] THE CASE OF FISA. THEY ARE
[01:53:08] SECRET ORDERS. AND THAT'S WHY
[01:53:11] I'M MAKING THAT. I ASSUMPTION.
[01:53:14] BUT ANY OTHER COURT, IT WOULD BE A PUBLIC ORDER. >> THAT'S INTERESTING. WELL, IT'S GOING TO BE FASCINATING TO
[01:53:17] SEE HOW THIS PLAYS OUT. PETE. THANKS. THANKS FOR THAT. THANKS
[01:53:19] FOR THE CALL. LINDA IN AUBURN,
[01:53:22] WASHINGTON. HEY, LINDA, WHAT'S
[01:53:25] UP >> UM, WHEN BILL MCKIBBEN WAS
[01:53:27] ON, I JUST WANT TO GET THIS IDEA OUT TO HIM AND OTHER LISTENERS
[01:53:31] RELATED TO WHAT HE WAS SAYING. HE WAS SAYING, WE HAVE TO, YOU
[01:53:34] KNOW, GET RID OF FOSSIL FUELS.
[01:53:36] WELL, WE CAN'T DO THAT JUST IMMEDIATELY. BUT WHAT WE CAN DO
[01:53:40] IS HAVE THE CAPTURING CARBON,
[01:53:43] CAPTURING OR FUEL EMISSION
[01:53:47] CAPTURING TANKS ON OUR CARS, AND THEY'RE ALREADY BEING DEVELOPED
[01:53:50] FOR SEMI TRUCKS. AND PEOPLE CAN WORK WITHIN THEIR CITY, BECAUSE
[01:53:53] A LOT OF CITIES, UM, SAID, WE WANT TO FOLLOW THE KYOTO
[01:53:56] PROTOCOL. SO WE JUST, WE CAN
[01:53:58] HAVE SOME HOPE IF WE SEE SOME
[01:54:01] RESULTS. AND THEY HAVE TO BE
[01:54:04] EMPTY FAIRLY OFTEN, BUT A WHOLE LOT OF PEOPLE WILL VOLUNTARILY
[01:54:08] DO THAT IF THEY HAVE THE DATA THAT YOU CAN GET FROM BILL
[01:54:10] MCKIBBEN OR YALE CENTER FOR
[01:54:12] ENVIRONMENT. WHY, WHY WE NEED TO
[01:54:15] CAPTURE IT IS SO THAT WE DON'T
[01:54:18] HAVE STUFF IN THE AIR WITH THEIR GEOENGINEERING, AND WE DON'T
[01:54:22] HAVE IT SO WARM THAT METHANE STARTS. >> YEAH. I THINK.
[01:54:25] >> I THINK AT THE SAME TIME, LINDA, IT'S IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER THAT THE BIGGEST
[01:54:29] PROPONENTS OF CARBON CAPTURE AND STORAGE ARE THE FOSSIL FUEL
[01:54:33] COMPANIES. AND THEY HAVE FUNDED HUGE CAMPAIGNS, PARTICULARLY ON
[01:54:37] SOCIAL MEDIA, TO PROMOTE THE IDEA THAT THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE TO DO. AND IT'S A WAY OF
[01:54:41] SHIFTING THE CONVERSATION AWAY FROM, WE NEED TO BURN FEWER
[01:54:44] FOSSIL FUELS. THAT'S THEIR WHOLE GOAL. >> I THINK. >> SO I.
[01:54:48] >> THINK IT WILL HELP PEOPLE SEE HOW.
[01:54:50] >> HOW, WHAT A HASSLE IT IS TO EMPTY YOUR TANK ALL THE TIME,
[01:54:54] AND THEY'LL WANT TO GO TO SOLAR. BUT NOT EVERYBODY CAN RIGHT AWAY.
[01:54:57] >> NO, I GET IT. AND WE DO NEED TO BE CAPTURING CARBON WHERE
[01:55:00] WE'RE PRODUCING IT. THANK YOU. LINDA. DAN IN RENO, NEVADA. HEY,
[01:55:03] DAN, WHAT'S ON YOUR MIND TODAY? >> HOW'VE YOU BEEN, SIR? HOPE
[01:55:06] THINGS ARE WELL. YEAH. SO I
[01:55:10] WANTED TO COME AT YOU WITH, UH,
[01:55:12] ANOTHER RANCH. SOCIALISM. AND
[01:55:14] HOW COMMUNISTS USE IT IS ALL
[01:55:20] AMERICANS PAYING FOR OUR
[01:55:23] MILITARY. ALL AMERICANS ARE ALL
[01:55:25] STATE INDIVIDUALS PAYING FOR
[01:55:27] THEIR NATIONAL GUARD. >> AND THEIR POLICE DEPARTMENT
[01:55:30] AND THEIR FIRE DEPARTMENT AND THEIR PUBLIC SCHOOLS AND THEIR PUBLIC LIBRARIES. THESE ARE ALL
[01:55:35] SOCIALIST INSTITUTIONS. YES, ABSOLUTELY.
[01:55:37] >> AGREE, SIR. SO NOW THE
[01:55:39] COMMUNISM SIDE IS WHEN TRUMP
[01:55:42] USED OUR MILITARY TO GO DOWN TO VENEZUELA, KICK THE LEADER OUT,
[01:55:46] AND THEN WHEN YOU CAPTURED THE
[01:55:48] OIL, TOOK THE MONEY, PUT IT IN
[01:55:51] QATAR, 500 MILLION, AND NOW HAS
[01:55:54] 16 OR 13 BILLION AT CITIBANK
[01:55:58] COLLECTING INTEREST THAT HE CONTROLS. >> YEAH, I WOULDN'T CALL IT COMMUNISM. I'D CALL THAT, UH,
[01:56:01] YOU KNOW DICTATORSHIP OR, YOU
[01:56:05] KNOW, THE OLD FASHIONED AMERICAN IMPERIALISM STUFF THAT WE THOUGHT WE HAD LEFT BEHIND, YOU
[01:56:09] KNOW, GENERATIONS AGO. UM, YOU KNOW, COMMUNISM, IF YOU WANT
[01:56:13] COMMUNISM THAT TRUMP IS DOING, THAT'S THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT
[01:56:16] BUYING A POSITION IN OVER 20
[01:56:18] COMPANIES, MAYBE OVER 30 COMPANIES. NOW, WE'VE NEVER DONE
[01:56:22] THIS BEFORE. WE'VE SEIZED THEM
[01:56:24] DURING LIKE WORLD WAR ONE AND WORLD WAR TWO. UM, BUT HE'S GOT,
[01:56:28] HE'S TAKING OUR TAXPAYER
[01:56:30] DOLLARS AND BUYING, I MEAN, INTEL, HE BOUGHT A BIG CHUNK OF
[01:56:33] INTEL, IF MY MEMORY SERVES ME CORRECTLY, THAT'S COMMUNISM.
[01:56:37] COMMUNISM IS WHERE THE STATE
[01:56:39] CONTROLS OR OWNS PART OF THE
[01:56:42] MEANS OF PRODUCTION. AND, UH, AND TRUMP IS THE FIRST PRESIDENT
[01:56:45] TO DO THIS. SO, UM, IF YOU'RE
[01:56:47] LOOKING FOR A COMMUNIST, THAT THAT WOULD BE THE PARTICULAR
[01:56:51] LEAF TO LOOK UNDER. DAN. THANK YOU. WELL SAID. BILL IN SANTA MONICA. HEY, BILL, I JUST HAVE A
[01:56:55] MINUTE HERE. YOU GOT A QUICK ONE?
[01:56:58] >> YEAH. TOM, UH, YOU AND OTHER
[01:57:01] PEOPLE WITH TALK ABOUT THIS
[01:57:06] COUNTRY IS IN DANGER OF LOSING
[01:57:07] THEIR DEMOCRACY. AND PEOPLE ARE
[01:57:11] STARTING TO LISTEN. AND TRUMP IS MAKING THEM LISTEN, BASICALLY,
[01:57:14] WITH HIS ANTICS. THE SUCCESSFUL DEMOCRACY IS NOT CRUZ, BUT
[01:57:18] DEMOCRACIES HAVE BEEN IN PLACES. AMERICAN REVOLUTION AND FRENCH
[01:57:21] REVOLUTION REVOLUTION, RUSSIAN REVOLUTION, CHINESE AND CUBAN.
[01:57:25] NONE OF THOSE COUNTRIES BELIEVE
[01:57:27] THAT THEY HAD A DEMOCRACY. AND,
[01:57:31] UM, IF TRUMP SCREWS AROUND WITH OUR ELECTIONS, I THINK PEOPLE,
[01:57:33] HE SHOULD BE AWARE OF THAT, BECAUSE I THINK PEOPLE WILL
[01:57:36] START TO UNDERSTAND THAT MAYBE
[01:57:39] WE DON'T HAVE A DEMOCRACY. AND THE NEXT STEP WOULD BE SOME KIND
[01:57:42] OF REVOLUTION.
[01:57:46] >> KNOW, THE IDEA OF AMERICANS TURNING GUNS ON EACH OTHER IS NOT SOMETHING THAT I WOULD, YOU
[01:57:50] KNOW, THAT ANY OF US. I DON'T MEAN.
[01:57:53] >> I DON'T MEAN A CIVIL WAR, NECESSARILY, BUT I MEAN A
[01:57:56] REVOLUTION. YEAH. PEOPLE IN THE
[01:57:57] STREETS, STOPPING JOBS. YEAH. I DON'T NECESSARILY. IT COULD BE
[01:58:01] A POSSIBLE SITE OF CIVIL WAR.
[01:58:03] THIS IS NOT LIKE OUR COUNTRY WAS DIVIDED IN 1865.
[01:58:07] >> I GET IT, BILL. BILL, THANK YOU FOR THE CALL. UM, ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE BREAK, ACTOR
[01:58:10] MIMI KENNEDY WILL BE WITH US.
[01:58:12] STICK AROUND
[01:58:15] >> [MUSIC]
[01:58:19] >> YOU'RE LISTENING TO THOM
[01:58:49] >> [MUSIC]
[01:59:22] >> YOU KNOW, WE'VE ALL GOTTEN SO USED TO LIVING IN A COUNTRY
[01:59:26] WHERE PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO CROWDFUND, LIKE CANCER RESEARCH
[01:59:29] FOR CHILDREN. SAINT JUDE'S IS A WONDERFUL CHARITY, BUT WE'RE THE
[01:59:32] ONLY DEVELOPED COUNTRY IN THE WORLD THAT NEEDS, YOU KNOW,
[01:59:36] WHERE YOU HAVE TO GO TO PEOPLE AND BEG FOR MONEY IN ORDER TO,
[01:59:39] TO TREAT CHILDREN WITH CANCER, OR SHRINERS. I MEAN, ANOTHER
[01:59:43] GREAT CHARITY. BUT SHOULDN'T WE
[01:59:45] ALL BE FUNDING CHILDREN WHO ARE
[01:59:48] BORN WITH BIRTH DEFECTS AND
[01:59:50] PROBLEMS LIKE THAT? UM, WE'RE,
[01:59:52] WE'RE PROBABLY THE ONLY COUNTRY IN THE WORLD WHERE YOU CAN SELL
[01:59:55] YOUR LIFE INSURANCE POLICY, BECAUSE SOCIAL SECURITY DOESN'T
[01:59:58] COVER YOUR RETIREMENT. I MEAN, IT'S PROBABLY NOT HAPPENING
[02:00:00] ANYWHERE ELSE IN THE WORLD OR REVERSE MORTGAGE YOUR HOME BECAUSE YOU, BECAUSE YOU CAN'T
[02:00:04] AFFORD IT. I MEAN, THIS IS CRAZY
[02:00:07] THAT WE ARE LIVING IN A COUNTRY
[02:00:09] WHERE NO KID HUNGRY, A CHARITY,
[02:00:12] YOU CAN READ ALL ABOUT IT. THERE'S A WHOLE OP ED. I WROTE
[02:00:15] ABOUT THIS OVER AT HARTMAN REPORT.COM. IT'S TITLED AMERICA'S SICKEST REALITY SHOW,
[02:00:18] CROWDFUNDING CANCER CARE. WHILE BILLIONAIRES HOARD BILLIONS.
[02:00:22] CHECK IT OUT
[02:00:44] HEY, WELCOME BACK TO OUR C-SPAN
[02:00:47] VIEWERS. UH, THE FOOD AND DRUG
[02:00:50] ADMINISTRATION MAY ALLOW SOME TOXIC CHEMICALS TO BE ADDED TO
[02:00:53] YOUR FOOD WITHOUT A SAFETY REVIEW. THIS IS A WILD STORY.
[02:00:56] UM, BOB KENNEDY, THE, THE, UH,
[02:00:58] YOU KNOW, BRAIN WORM, FORMER
[02:01:02] HEROIN AND SEX ADDICT, UH,
[02:01:03] LAWYER WHO IS IN CHARGE OF OUR
[02:01:07] HEALTH AND OUR DOCTORS, UM, WAS
[02:01:10] RECENTLY BRAGGING IN A PROMISES
[02:01:12] KEPT, UH, STATEMENT IN AUGUST
[02:01:16] THAT HE HAD CLOSED SOME LOOPHOLES AROUND THE GENERALLY
[02:01:19] REGARDED AS SAFE OR GRAS DESIGNATION FOR SOME THINGS IN
[02:01:22] OUR, IN OUR FOOD SUPPLY AND OUR SUPPLEMENTS AND THINGS LIKE
[02:01:26] THAT. UM, BUT WHAT HE DIDN'T
[02:01:32] MENTION IS THAT THIS NEW GRASS
[02:01:35] REGULATION EXPANDS SOMETHING
[02:01:38] CALLED TOR OR THRESHOLD OF
[02:01:41] REGULATION. NOW, WHAT? UH, WITHOUT GETTING TOO COMPLICATED
[02:01:44] HERE, WHAT THIS HAS TO DO WITH
[02:01:46] IS CHEMICALS THAT HAVE EXTREME
[02:01:52] EFFECTS IN TINY QUANTITIES. THIS
[02:01:54] WOULD BE LIKE THE PHTHALATES,
[02:01:56] LIKE THE PFAS, THE, THE, THESE
[02:02:00] FOREVER CHEMICALS THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, GET INTO OUR FOOD SUPPLY THROUGH OUR, THROUGH, MOSTLY
[02:02:04] THROUGH FOOD PACKAGING, UM, THROUGH THE, YOU KNOW, THE CARRY
[02:02:08] HOME PACKS YOU GET FROM THE RESTAURANT, THEY'RE LINED WITH
[02:02:10] THIS STUFF. UM, YOU KNOW, A ET
[02:02:16] CETERA. SO, AND, AND THE BIG ONE IS, UH, ROCKET FUEL, WHICH MAKES
[02:02:20] IT PERCHLORATE, WHICH MAKES ITS WAY INTO THE WATER SUPPLY AND
[02:02:23] CAN SHOW UP IN PARTS, YOU KNOW,
[02:02:26] THAT ARE WAY BELOW 0.5 PARTS PER
[02:02:28] BILLION AND STILL CAUSE SERIOUS
[02:02:32] PROBLEMS. UM, HORMONE DISRUPTORS LINKED TO BRAIN DAMAGE AND
[02:02:35] REPRODUCTIVE HARM IN CHILDREN.
[02:02:37] UM, SO ANYHOW, WHAT, WHAT
[02:02:40] HAPPENED WAS THERE, THERE WAS THIS STANDARD THRESHOLD OF REGULATION. IN OTHER WORDS, IF
[02:02:44] A, IF A CHEMICAL THAT COULD BE DESTRUCTIVE TO US, IT COULD
[02:02:48] CAUSE NEUROLOGICAL DAMAGE OR
[02:02:50] CANCER OR OTHER OTHER PROBLEMS. IF THE LEVELS OF THAT CHEMICAL
[02:02:54] IN OUR FOOD SUPPLY WERE ABOVE
[02:02:56] THIS THRESHOLD, WHICH WAS 0.5
[02:03:02] PARTS PER BILLION, UM, IF THEY WERE ABOVE THAT THRESHOLD, THEN YOU GOT A PROBLEM. YOU CAN'T PUT
[02:03:06] IT IN. IF IT'S BELOW THAT THRESHOLD, THEN IT'S ESSENTIALLY
[02:03:09] UNREGULATED. AND AS I SAID,
[02:03:12] THERE'S A BUNCH OF CHEMICALS THAT EVEN AT LEVELS LOWER THAN
[02:03:16] THAT, ARE JUST DEFINITELY,
[02:03:18] ABSOLUTELY NOT GOOD FOR US. SO
[02:03:22] WHAT BOB KENNEDY DID WAS EXPAND
[02:03:27] THE, THE, BASICALLY THE LOOPHOLE, YOU KNOW, TOR IS LIKE A LOOPHOLE. IT'S, IT'S, YOU
[02:03:31] KNOW, THIS THRESHOLD OF REGULATION. AND TOM PERKINS,
[02:03:34] WRITING OVER AT THE GUARDIAN, HE
[02:03:36] WRITES THE NEW PROPOSED TOUR EXPANSION WOULD ALLOW COMPANIES
[02:03:39] TO USE THE CHEMICALS AS AN INGREDIENT ADDED DIRECTLY TO
[02:03:43] FOOD. NOW, PRIOR, IT WAS, YOU
[02:03:45] KNOW, LIKE, OKAY, IT ENDS UP IN THE FOOD BECAUSE OF PACKAGING OR
[02:03:48] SOMETHING LIKE THAT. BUT, YOU KNOW, KIND OF INCIDENTAL TO THE
[02:03:52] PROCESS OF PRODUCING THE FOOD,
[02:03:54] UH, OR THE, THE, THE ROCKET FUEL WAS IN THE WATER THAT WAS USED
[02:03:58] TO, TO IRRIGATE THE PLANTS,
[02:04:00] THINGS LIKE THAT. SO ANYHOW,
[02:04:03] BACK TO THAT PARAGRAPH. THE NEW PROPOSED TOUR EXPANSION WOULD
[02:04:06] ALLOW COMPANIES TO USE THE CHEMICALS AS AN INGREDIENT AT A
[02:04:10] DIRECTLY TO FOOD AS FLAVORINGS, PRESERVATIVES, EMULSIFIERS,
[02:04:13] PROCESSING AIDS, ENZYMES, STABILIZERS, AND BINDERS, AND
[02:04:16] FOR MYRIAD OTHER USES, INCLUDING
[02:04:21] CREATING ULTRA PROCESSED FOOD.
[02:04:24] SO KENNEDY DID NOT MENTION, AND THE FDA DID NOT MENTION IN THEIR
[02:04:27] PR MATERIAL, THAT THE PROPOSED GRASSLEY RULE THAT THEY HAVE,
[02:04:31] UH, SUBMITTED QUIETLY TO THE
[02:04:33] FEDERAL REGISTER INCLUDES THIS
[02:04:36] EXPANSION OF TAU. AND THIS,
[02:04:40] AGAIN, THIS IS FROM TOM PERKINS
[02:04:42] PIECE OVER IN THE GUARDIAN. UM, ADVOCATES SAY THE PROBLEM LIES
[02:04:45] IN THE DEFINITION OF APPRECIABLE
[02:04:49] RISK CHEMICALS LIKE PERCHLORATE, SOME PHTHALATES, SOME
[02:04:52] BISPHENOLS, SOME PFAS FOREVER CHEMICALS, AND SOME FLAME
[02:04:55] RETARDANTS ARE NOT CLASSIFIED AS CARCINOGENIC. BUT THEY CAN CAUSE
[02:04:59] HARM AT DOSES FAR LOWER THAN 0.5
[02:05:03] PARTS PER BILLION. THESE COULD, IN THEORY, NOW BE USED AS
[02:05:07] INGREDIENTS, AS INGREDIENTS. IN OTHER WORDS, THEY COULD. THEY
[02:05:10] COULD BE ACTUALLY ADDED TO OUR
[02:05:13] FOOD, NOT ACCIDENTALLY. OR INCIDENTALLY, YOU KNOW, SHOWING UP IN OUR FOOD. UH, THESE, IN
[02:05:16] THEORY, COULD BE USED AS INGREDIENTS, AS COULD CHEMICALS
[02:05:20] THAT ARE NEUROTOXIC CAUSE BRAIN DAMAGE, ATTACK THE IMMUNE
[02:05:23] SYSTEM, HARM THE MICROBIOTA, OR
[02:05:25] GIVE RISE TO ANY NUMBER OF OTHER
[02:05:29] ADVERSE HEALTH EFFECTS. HE QUOTES A EXPERT IN THIS FIELD,
[02:05:32] AND SAID THAT SHE WAS PARTICULARLY CONCERNED ABOUT FLAVORINGS BECAUSE ULTRA
[02:05:36] PROCESSED FOOD COMPANIES USE CHEMICALS THAT, QUOTE, PLAY AROUND WITH THE NERVOUS SYSTEM
[02:05:40] AND RECEPTORS IN YOUR MOUTH TO
[02:05:43] TRY TO MAKE US EAT MORE AND MORE
[02:05:45] OF SOMETHING. SO, UH, AND ONE OF
[02:05:49] THE, ONE OF THE PROBLEMS IS THAT
[02:05:51] PERCHLORATE, THIS ROCKET FUEL, THAT'S SO, SO REALLY AWFUL,
[02:05:54] PARTICULARLY FOR CHILDREN. UM,
[02:06:00] IS SHOWING UP IN CHILDREN'S CEREAL, UH, >> BACK IN 2005, GERMAN CHEMICAL
[02:06:03] GIANT BASF USED TOR TO EXEMPT PERCHLORATE FROM REGULATIONS FOR
[02:06:07] USE IN SUPERSAX. THESE ARE ONE TON POLYPROPYLENE, PLASTIC
[02:06:10] STORAGE BAGS. AND THEY SAID, WELL, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT AN
[02:06:13] EXCEPTION. IT'S JUST. BUT IT
[02:06:16] STOPS GRAINS FROM STICKING TO SUPER STACKS. SO THE GRAINS ARE
[02:06:20] LOADED AND EMPTIED INTO SACKS AT
[02:06:21] HIGH VELOCITY, WHICH CAN CAUSE THE PERCHLORATE AND
[02:06:25] MICROPLASTICS TO BREAK OFF. SO PERCHLORATE REDUCES THE THYROID
[02:06:29] GLAND'S ABILITY TO ABSORB
[02:06:31] IODINE, WHICH IS NEEDED TO
[02:06:34] PRODUCE THE HORMONE T4. SO WILD STUFF. THANK YOU, BOB KENNEDY, I
[02:06:37] GUESS SARCASTICALLY. ALL RIGHT. WELL, JOE IS BEGINNING. WE'LL BE
[02:06:40] RIGHT BACK.
[02:06:53] >> EVERYBODY.
[02:06:55] >> MIMI KENNEDY, THE ACTRESS,
[02:06:59] AUTHOR, ACTIVIST, MEMBER OF THE PROGRESSIVE DEMOCRATS OF
[02:07:02] AMERICA, PT AMERICA.ORG BOARD.
[02:07:03] AS I RECALL, MIMI KENNEDY, LA ON
[02:07:07] TWITTER. UH, VOTERS CALENDAR.ORG
[02:07:10] WEBSITE. MIMI. WELCOME BACK. TELL US ABOUT THIS.
[02:07:14] >> UM, IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN. AND I LOVE SEEING THE
[02:07:17] GLACIER LAKES AND THE SUNRISE
[02:07:20] AND THE WOODS. I'M ASSUMING THAT'S SUNRISE. UH, VOTERS,
[02:07:23] CALENDAR.ORG IS, UH, TIM
[02:07:26] CARPENTER INSTITUTE PROJECT. IT'S NONPARTISAN NONPROFIT. TIM
[02:07:30] CARPENTER WAS THE FOUNDER OF
[02:07:32] PDA, AND HE'S BEEN ABSENT FROM
[02:07:35] THIS PLANET SINCE 2014. BUT, UM,
[02:07:38] IT IS A CLICKABLE MAP. YOU FIND
[02:07:40] YOUR STATE, YOU CLICK ON IT, AND YOU WILL BE TAKEN TO ALL THE
[02:07:44] INFORMATION THAT YOU NEED. AND ONE OF THE THINGS I REALLY LIKE
[02:07:48] ABOUT THIS IS THEY HAVE TAKEN UP MY SUGGESTION, FIRM SUGGESTION
[02:07:51] THAT WHEN YOU CHECK YOUR REGISTRATION, IF YOU, AND WHEN
[02:07:55] YOU, I HOPE, FIND IT, TAKE A
[02:07:58] SCREENSHOT. BECAUSE MY WHOLE MESSAGE, THIS ELECTION CYCLE IS.
[02:08:01] EACH OF US IS RESPONSIBLE FOR A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF PROOF OF WHAT
[02:08:05] WE CAN'T CONTROL. YOU KNOW, I PLAYED A 12 STEP COUNSELOR FOR
[02:08:08] EIGHT YEARS ON TV. I LEARNED A LOT ABOUT THAT. AND THE SURRENDERED PRAYER IS, YOU KNOW,
[02:08:11] GIVE ME THE SERENITY, BUT THE
[02:08:14] THINGS I CAN CHANGE DO THAT. SO,
[02:08:17] UM, THIS YEAR, DO WHATEVER YOU CAN TO HAVE PROOF OF YOUR
[02:08:20] REGISTRATION. SHOULD ANY QUESTION ARISE. YOU GOT IT ON YOUR PHONE OR, YOU KNOW, YOU
[02:08:24] HAVE A PICTURE OF IT HERE. IT WAS TIME DATED. IT WAS THERE. I
[02:08:28] GET TO VOTE. UM, THE OTHER
[02:08:31] THINGS THAT IT WILL HAVE AS TIME
[02:08:33] GOES ON, UH, ARE MORE VOTER INFORMATION, BUT IT TAKES YOU TO
[02:08:37] YOUR SECRETARY, SECRETARY OF STATE'S WEBSITE, WHERE ALL THE
[02:08:40] INFORMATION ABOUT SAME DAY VOTING AND VOTING, REGISTRATION DEADLINES. I KNOW YOU'VE BEEN
[02:08:44] DOING A LOT OF WORK ON THAT, TOM, AND WARNING PEOPLE THAT
[02:08:46] THEIR DEADLINES WERE COMING UP
[02:08:48] AND ABOUT MANY STATES, DEADLINES HAVE PASSED. UH, AND ONLY A FEW
[02:08:52] OF THEM DO NOT HAVE SAME DAY
[02:08:57] REGISTRATION. SO THAT'S A PITY. BUT MANY PLACES DO HAVE SAME DAY
[02:09:00] REGISTRATION. AND THEN YOU CAST A CONDITIONAL BALLOT. AND WHEN
[02:09:04] THE OFFICE CHECKS THAT YOUR REGISTRATION DATA CHECKS OUT, YOU LIVE WHERE YOU SAID YOU
[02:09:08] LIVED, AND YOU ARE WHO YOU SAID YOU WERE. UM, THEN THEY WILL
[02:09:11] COUNT YOUR VOTE. IT'S LIKE HOW A PROVISIONAL BALLOT USED TO BE,
[02:09:14] BUT IT'S CALLED A CONDITIONAL BALLOT IN MOST PLACES. SAME DAY
[02:09:17] REGISTRATION IS A HUGE IMPROVEMENT. SOME STATES ONLY
[02:09:20] OFFER IT DURING THE EARLY VOTING
[02:09:22] TIME, BUT THAT INFORMATION WILL ALL BE WHEN YOU CLICK YOUR
[02:09:26] STATE. YOU CAN FIND ALL THAT OUT. SO THAT'S VOTER'S
[02:09:29] CALENDAR.ORG. AND THERE ARE A COUPLE OF OTHER THINGS THAT I
[02:09:32] WILL SAY TOO, WHICH IS POST-ELECTION. THERE ARE A
[02:09:36] COUPLE OF ORGANIZATIONS I REALLY
[02:09:38] TRUST WHO ARE ORGANIZING PEOPLE TO WATCH THE THINGS THAT YOU
[02:09:42] NEED TO WATCH POST-ELECTION TO
[02:09:45] JUDGE THE ELECTION INTEGRITY IN YOUR JURISDICTION, IN YOUR
[02:09:48] STATE. AND THAT'S SMART.
[02:09:51] ELECTIONS.ORG AND SCRUTINEERS.ORG. AND THEY TEACH
[02:09:55] YOU WHAT YOU CAN CONTROL FROM
[02:09:57] YOUR COMPUTER OR IN PERSON
[02:09:59] OBSERVATION, AND THEN YOU CAN JOIN SOME PEOPLE DOING THAT AND
[02:10:03] KNOW THAT YOU'RE DOING EVERYTHING WITHIN THE LAW.
[02:10:06] YOU'RE NOT A GROUP OF, YOU
[02:10:09] KNOW, VIGILANTES INTIMIDATING ANYBODY, INCLUDING YOUR ELECTION
[02:10:11] OFFICIAL. THESE ORGANIZATIONS
[02:10:13] REACH OUT TO ELECTION OFFICIALS
[02:10:16] AND WORK IN A COOPERATIVE,
[02:10:19] NONVIOLENTLY COOPERATIVE MANNER
[02:10:22] TO IMPROVE THE VERIFICATION OF RESULTS.
[02:10:25] >> THIS IS GREAT STUFF, MIMI. UH YOU KNOW, YOU'RE DOING GOD'S
[02:10:28] WORK HERE. THIS IS REALLY GREAT
[02:10:30] STUFF. SO, UH, HOW IS, UH, TELL
[02:10:33] US ABOUT PROGRESSIVE DEMOCRATS OF AMERICA RIGHT NOW. WHAT'S
[02:10:37] WHAT'S GOING ON OVER THERE? IT'S BEEN A WHILE SINCE I'VE BEEN TO ONE OF THE MEETINGS. MY APOLOGIES.
[02:10:40] >> I KNOW, I KNOW EXACTLY, AND I AM NO LONGER, UM, THE CHAIR OF
[02:10:45] THE ADVISORY BOARD, THOUGH I AM A BOARD MEMBER. AND, UH, I'LL
[02:10:49] TELL YOU, I'M GETTING ON. SO A
[02:10:51] LOT OF MY SORT OF RIGHT HAND HELPERS AREN'T AT THE OTHER END
[02:10:55] OF THEIR PHONE LINE ANYMORE. YOU KNOW, THEY'VE PASSED ON TO WHERE
[02:10:59] I CAN'T REACH THEM EXCEPT BY
[02:11:01] PRAYER. AND SO I'VE WITHDRAWN SOMEWHAT FROM THAT DAY TO DAY OR
[02:11:05] MONTH TO MONTH. BUT WE HAVE A BRILLIANT EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR
[02:11:08] NAMED ALAN MINSKY. AND, UH, MANY
[02:11:10] OF THE SAME PEOPLE ARE DOING OUR
[02:11:14] OPERATIONS. AND THEY, JANICE
[02:11:15] KAY. AND, UH, THEY WERE MIKE FOX
[02:11:19] NONSTOP. AND ONE THING PDA DOES IS ORGANIZE PHONE BANKS TO
[02:11:23] REMIND PEOPLE ABOUT DEADLINES
[02:11:25] AND GO OUT AND VOTE. AND MIKE
[02:11:28] FOX RUNS THAT OPERATION AND IS FANTASTIC. WE ALSO HAVE A GREAT
[02:11:31] PRESENCE WITH MIKE HIRSCH ON
[02:11:34] CAPITOL HILL. AND, UM, THE PROGRESSIVE CAUCUS DURING OUR
[02:11:38] TIME HAS GROWN FROM LIKE, I
[02:11:39] THINK IT WAS 12 PEOPLE ORIGINALLY TO. IT'S ONE OF THE,
[02:11:43] I THINK IT'S EITHER THE BIGGEST CAUCUS OR ONE OF THE BIGGEST
[02:11:46] CAUCUSES ON CAPITOL HILL. NOW, THE PROGRESSIVES. AND TIM ALWAYS
[02:11:48] SAID, I WANT PROGRESSIVE
[02:11:51] DEMOCRATS TO BE A GENERIC TERM,
[02:11:55] LIKE, YOU KNOW, I'M TRYING TO GET COCA-COLA. I GUESS THAT'S STILL A TRADEMARK BRAND. BUT,
[02:11:59] UH, AND HE SAID, I ALSO WANTED
[02:12:02] TO BE REDUNDANT SOMEDAY. YOU DON'T HAVE TO SAY PROGRESSIVE
[02:12:05] DEMOCRAT, DEMOCRAT, AND YOU
[02:12:07] ASSUME, AND I ALWAYS SAID PROG
[02:12:11] PROGRESSIVE MEANS WE ENVISION A FUTURE AND WE'RE PROGRESSING
[02:12:15] TOWARDS IT, RIGHT? BECAUSE, AS YOU KNOW, UH, THERE ARE TOO MANY
[02:12:18] PEOPLE WHO DECIDED THEY'VE GIVEN UP ON A FUTURE FOR THIS PLANET.
[02:12:21] THEY'RE GOING TO GO LIVE ON A
[02:12:25] OXYGEN LESS ROCK SOMEWHERE IN
[02:12:27] ANOTHER GALAXY OR OUR OWN. BUT I
[02:12:32] DON'T MEAN TO BE FACETIOUS, BECAUSE THERE'S, THERE'S SO MUCH SUFFERING GOING ON RIGHT
[02:12:36] NOW, AND A LOT OF IT IS POLITICALLY AND GEOPOLITICALLY
[02:12:39] INFLICTED. AND WE TRUST OR HOPE
[02:12:44] IN MANY ORGANIZATIONS THAT WILL REINSTATE THE RULE OF LAW. UH,
[02:12:48] IN OUR COUNTRY THAT WILL ABIDE BY THE CONSTITUTION AND PUT SOME
[02:12:52] TEETH IN IT. UH, BUT GUESS WHAT?
[02:12:55] THE THING WE CAN CONTROL FOR
[02:12:59] THAT TO HAPPEN IS VOTING. YEAH. AND SO WE'LL GET BACK TO THE
[02:13:02] SAME INFORMATION THAT I'M HERE TO BRING. AND AS I SAY, IF
[02:13:05] PEOPLE WANT TO ORGANIZE AND, AND
[02:13:09] WE'RE ALL ANXIOUS ABOUT THE RESULTS AND ABOUT HOW THEY'RE
[02:13:13] TABULATED AND WHO'S COUNTING, AND WHAT CAN BE INTERFERED WITH.
[02:13:16] BUT THAT'S WHY I'M OFFERING SMART ELECTIONS.COM AND
[02:13:19] SCRUTINEERS.ORG IN ORDER TO, IF YOU'RE ANXIOUS, DO SOMETHING
[02:13:23] WITH YOUR ANXIETY, SOMETHING YOU CAN CONTROL. AND, UM, BEV
[02:13:26] HARRIS, WHO WAS REALLY STARTING
[02:13:30] ELECTION INTEGRITY BACK WHEN I
[02:13:32] WAS, UM, AND HAS SINCE GONE ON
[02:13:35] TO DO OTHER THINGS IN HER LIFE, UH, WITH HER FAMILY AND TAKING
[02:13:39] CARE OF PEOPLE. UH, SHE ALWAYS
[02:13:42] SAID THAT IF YOU DO ONE THING,
[02:13:44] THE NEXT STEP THAT YOU NEED TO
[02:13:47] TAKE BECOMES OBVIOUS TO YOU. THAT'S HOW WE LEARN AS HUMAN
[02:13:50] BEINGS. IF YOU STEP OUT AND DO THE FIRST THING, THEN THE NEXT
[02:13:54] THING YOU NEED TO DO BECOMES APPARENT, AND YOU HAVE THE
[02:13:57] COURAGE TO DO THAT, AND YOU CAN DO IT WITH OTHER PEOPLE. AND
[02:14:01] AGAIN, PEOPLE HAVE BEEN WORKING IN ELECTION INTEGRITY FOR SO
[02:14:04] LONG THAT THEY, THEY KNOW HOW TO DO IT, AND THEY NO LONGER ARE
[02:14:07] DOING IT OPERATIONALLY, JUST,
[02:14:09] YOU KNOW, SCREAMING THAT THINGS
[02:14:11] ARE WRONG. AND IT'S ALL SO
[02:14:15] SUSPICIOUS. THAT HASN'T NEED,
[02:14:19] WE NEED EVIDENCE. AND EVEN SOMETIMES ALL THE EVIDENCE.
[02:14:22] OKAY, IT'S NOT LISTENED TO, BUT THAT DOESN'T STOP THE NEED TO
[02:14:26] ACCUMULATE IT. AND TO DO WHAT
[02:14:28] YOU CAN CONTROL. SO, UM, SO
[02:14:31] THAT'S IT. AND A COUPLE OF STATES, THEIR REGISTRATION DEADLINES HAVE GONE BY AND THEY
[02:14:35] DON'T HAVE SAME DAY REGISTRATION. UM, NOT DURING
[02:14:39] EARLY VOTING OR ON ELECTION DAY,
[02:14:40] BUT YOU CAN GO TO THOSE STATE
[02:14:43] WEBSITES. AND IF YOU FIND YOUR
[02:14:46] REGISTRATION SCREENSHOT, BECAUSE IF THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF
[02:14:50] PURGING, I, YOU KNOW, WE, WE
[02:14:54] CAN'T ONLY TRUST THAT EVERYTHING WILL GO WELL. SO IT'S UP TO EACH OF US TO DO
[02:14:58] WHAT WE CAN CONTROL AND TO GATHER THE EVIDENCE WE CAN. AND
[02:15:01] THE FIRST THING IS THERE'S OUR VOTER REGISTRATION. AND AGAIN,
[02:15:04] AFTERWARDS, IT'S NOT AN
[02:15:07] INDIVIDUAL VIGILANTE THING THAT'S NEVER GOING TO WORK FOR.
[02:15:11] ANYBODY, I HOPE. UM, BUT
[02:15:15] GATHERING WITH KNOWLEDGEABLE PEOPLE. AND AS I SAY, I TRUST
[02:15:17] THOSE OTHER TWO. I TRUST HIRZ.
[02:15:20] >> WELL SAID. >> OH, YEAH. I WANTED TO SAY ONE
[02:15:23] OTHER THING BECAUSE I. HAVE YOU
[02:15:26] EVER LOOKED AT THE MAP CALLED THE VERIFIER AND VERIFIED
[02:15:30] VOTING.ORG? I DON'T THINK I
[02:15:30] HAVE, YEAH. THEY AGAIN, VERIFIED
[02:15:34] VOTING STARTED VERY EARLY WHEN I STARTED THIS WORK. 2003, 2004,
[02:15:38] AND THEY HAVE A MAP OF THE UNITED STATES WITH A COLOR,
[02:15:42] VARIOUS COLORS. AND YOU CAN CHECK YOUR VOTING SYSTEM. HMM. I
[02:15:46] THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE LIKE TO
[02:15:50] KNOW THAT WHETHER THEY'RE THINKING NATIONALLY OR JUST NEED
[02:15:52] TO KNOW FOR THEIR STATE. AND
[02:15:56] THAT MAP, CALLED THE VERIFIER,
[02:15:58] IS A WONDERFUL RESOURCE. AND
[02:16:01] BALLOTPEDIA, I THINK I PUT THAT URL IN THERE. THERE THEY HAVE A
[02:16:04] MAP THAT SHOWS WHO OFFERS SAME
[02:16:06] DAY REGISTRATION.
[02:16:10] >> THAT'S GREAT. AND IT'S A, IT'S A TOUGH LITTLE TIGHT,
[02:16:14] TIGHT, TIGHT ROPE TO, TO WALK HERE BETWEEN SAYING, ON THE ONE
[02:16:18] HAND, YOU KNOW, WE WANT, WE
[02:16:20] DON'T WANT ANY SHENANIGANS IN OUR ELECTIONS. YOU KNOW, GREG
[02:16:24] POWELL DID THAT, DID THE MATH. YOU KNOW, HE'S GOT A MASTER'S
[02:16:27] DEGREE IN STATISTICS. YOU KNOW,
[02:16:29] HE, HE TOOK THE, THE, JUST THE STATE DATA, YOU KNOW, OF WHO GOT
[02:16:33] PURGED. AND HE FOUND THAT THEY PURGED LIKE 4.2 MILLION PEOPLE
[02:16:37] JUST BEFORE THE 2024 ELECTION AND HAD THOSE PEOPLE IN JUST IN
[02:16:41] THOSE SWING STATES. AND HAD THOSE PEOPLE NOT BEEN PURGED, KAMALA HARRIS WOULD BE OUR
[02:16:45] PRESIDENT RIGHT NOW. AND WE'D HAVE A WE WOULD HAVE HAD A DEMOCRATIC HOUSE. SO THAT'S THE
[02:16:48] SINGLE MOST EFFECTIVE THING REPUBLICANS DO, WHICH IS WHY
[02:16:51] YOU'RE SAYING SCREENSHOT YOUR VOTER REGISTRATION. SO IF YOU
[02:16:54] GET CHALLENGED. BUT BUT ON THE
[02:16:56] OTHER HAND, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T
[02:16:59] WANT TO BE SOUNDING LIKE, YOU KNOW, DONALD TRUMP AND LAURA LOOMER, YOU KNOW, OH MY GOD,
[02:17:03] IT'S ALL RIGGED. YES. AND IT'S
[02:17:05] JUST A TOUGH, TIGHT TIGHTROPE TO WALK.
[02:17:07] >> I KNOW, AND I THINK YOU'VE
[02:17:12] DONE IT EXCELLENTLY. AND I THINK THAT IF, IF YOU DO, TELL ME, GOOD OLD SERENITY, I'M TELLING
[02:17:15] YOU, IF YOU JUST DO THE THING
[02:17:16] YOU CAN'T CONTROL, YOU CAN
[02:17:21] CONTROL. AND YOU TAKE ACTION WITH SOMEONE ELSE WHO'S DOING
[02:17:24] IT BY THE LAW. AND IN A
[02:17:27] COOPERATIVE MANNER, YOU'RE
[02:17:28] GOING TO GET VERY FAR. AND YOUR
[02:17:32] ANXIETY DIMINISHES. WE WOULD BE NAIVE NOT TO BE WORRIED ABOUT
[02:17:35] RESULTS, SHENANIGANS. OH. >> THIS GUY, I MEAN, YOU KNOW,
[02:17:38] HE CALLED UP THE SECRETARY OF STATE OF GEORGIA AND DEMANDED
[02:17:41] THAT HE FIND ME 11,000 VOTES.
[02:17:43] RIGHT? I MEAN, THIS IS RIGHT IN PHONY.,
[02:17:46] >> ALL DAYLIGHT. WHATEVER YOU,
[02:17:47] YOU KNOW, IN DAYLIGHT. SO, UH,
[02:17:51] ONE THING THAT OFTEN ANNOYS ME
[02:17:54] IS, UH, TO REFUTE STOP THE
[02:17:56] STEAL, WHICH, OF COURSE, I, I WAS ON THAT SIDE, REFUTE IT. BUT
[02:18:00] THERE WAS ALWAYS, THERE'S NO EVIDENCE THAT THERE'S BEEN ANY
[02:18:04] MANIPULATION. WELL, OF COURSE, THERE WON'T BE EVIDENCE.
[02:18:06] THAT'S WHAT THE DIGITAL THING
[02:18:09] IS ALL ABOUT. AND AI, YOU KNOW,
[02:18:12] WE ARE LEARNING NOW, THERE'S. THEY DIDN'T HAVE ANY EVIDENCE
[02:18:14] THAT THINGS WERE GOING OUTSIDE
[02:18:18] THE GUARDRAIL. SO WHAT WILL THE EVIDENCE BE? IT'LL BE WHAT WE CAN CONTROL, WHAT PEOPLE WHO
[02:18:22] KNOW ABOUT CYBERSECURITY HAVE LEARNED TO LOOK AT. BEV HARRIS
[02:18:25] USED TO SAY, CHECK, WHO CAN VOTE. THAT'S REGISTRATION
[02:18:29] PROCESS. AND DOES IT HAVE INTEGRITY? WHO DID VOTE? LOOK AT
[02:18:32] THE NUMBERS OF PEOPLE WHO VOTED IN YOUR PRECINCT, OR YOUR COUNTY
[02:18:34] OR YOUR STATE, AND GET THAT DATA. THAT'S WHAT GREG WAS, IS
[02:18:39] SO BRILLIANT ABOUT. AND THEN HOW
[02:18:41] IS THE VOTE COUNTED? YOU WANT TO KNOW YOUR VOTING SYSTEM, AND
[02:18:44] MAYBE IT'S VULNERABILITIES, OR
[02:18:46] IT'S SECURITY AND, AND THE
[02:18:48] CHAIN OF CUSTODY. YOU WANT TO KNOW ALL THE WAY TO REPORTING RESULTS.
[02:18:52] >> SPOT ON. MAYBE I'M HITTING A HEARTBREAK HERE. I'M SORRY. I
[02:18:55] KNOW THE GREAT MIMI KENNEDY. UM,
[02:18:59] PD AMERICA.ORG VOTERS CALENDAR
[02:19:02] DOT SCRUTINEERS.ORG AND SMART ELECTIONS.ORG.
[02:19:06] >> THAT'S IT. >> OKAY, MIMI, GREAT TO SEE YOU AGAIN. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR
[02:19:09] DROPPING BY. >> ABSOLUTELY, TOM. GOOD WORK.
[02:19:13] THANK YOU FOR BEING THERE.
[02:19:14] >> MY PLEASURE. >> OKAY.
[02:19:17] >> THIS IS THE THOM HARTMANN PROGRAM. >> I'LL BE BACK WITH MORE OF THE NEWS OF THE DAY AND YOUR
[02:19:21] CALLS IN JUST A MOMENT. STICK AROUND
[02:19:24] >> [MUSIC]
[02:19:40] >> AND WELCOME BACK, SUZY IN PASADENA, CALIFORNIA. HEY, SUZY, WHAT'S ON YOUR MIND TODAY?
[02:19:44] >> HI, TOM. LOVE YOUR SHOW. LONG TIME LISTENER, FIRST TIME
[02:19:47] CALLER. THANK YOU. I WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW ABOUT, UM. YOU
[02:19:50] KNOW, WE MUST EACH DO ALL WE
[02:19:52] CAN. AND SO I HAVE LAUNCHED,
[02:19:54] FROM ITS HUMBLE BEGINNINGS IN 2020 FOR THE 2026 CAMPAIGN OF
[02:19:58] HOT TO VOTE.ORG. WE ARE MOBILIZING THE HOTTEST CONTENT
[02:20:01] CREATORS OF TODAY TO TURN PEOPLE
[02:20:02] ON TO VOTING. WE HAVE OVER 100 PEOPLE, INCLUDING MARGARET CHO,
[02:20:06] WHO IS A VETERAN OF OUR INDUSTRY. UM, JUST TELLING
[02:20:09] PEOPLE TO CHECK THEIR REGISTRATION STATUS. WE'VE GOT
[02:20:12] POSTERS, PIN UP STYLE, 1940s VIBES ALL OVER ATLANTA, GEORGIA.
[02:20:16] UM, AND PARTS THERE IN, UH, JUST
[02:20:19] TRYING TO GET PEOPLE EXCITED
[02:20:21] ABOUT CHECKING THEIR STATUS. WE EVEN HAVE A SPICY STAGE NAME
[02:20:25] GENERATOR. SO WHEN YOU CHECK YOUR STATUS, IT WILL TELL YOU WHETHER OR NOT YOU'RE REGISTERED
[02:20:28] TO VOTE. AND IT WILL GIVE YOU A NAME THAT YOU CAN USE FOR SPICY
[02:20:32] CONTENT CREATION IF YOU CHOOSE TO DO SO. >> SO OKAY. >> CHECK IT OUT AND LET US KNOW
[02:20:36] WHAT YOUR NAME IS. >> WHAT'S THE WEBSITE?
[02:20:38] >> HOT TO VOTE. IT'S HOT TO VOTE.ORG WITH THE NUMBER TWO.
[02:20:42] UM, WE'RE ALSO ON TIKTOK,
[02:20:44] TWITTER, INSTAGRAM. UM, IT'S REALLY FUN AND WE REALLY CARE. AND WE WANT TO DO SOMETHING.
[02:20:48] RIGHT. >> YEAH. WELL THANK YOU SUSIE. THANKS FOR SHARING THAT. AND I'LL HAVE TO CHECK IT OUT. I
[02:20:52] APPRECIATE THE CALL. THANK YOU.
[02:20:55] MARK IN OAKLAND, CALIFORNIA. HEY, MARK, WHAT'S ON YOUR MIND
[02:20:58] TODAY >> TOM. THANKS FOR TAKING MY CALL. SURE. HEY, TOM. I WANTED
[02:21:02] TO, UH. I TOLD HIM I WAS GOING
[02:21:05] TO TALK ABOUT. I WANTED TO
[02:21:13] GOING TO BE TOO LENGTHY. I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT THAT MAYBE
[02:21:16] ANOTHER TIME. UH, I, I TOLD MATEO THAT I REALLY THINK THAT
[02:21:19] OBAMA NEEDS TO SLIP IN A MEA CULPA THERE WHEN HE'S TALKING, BECAUSE THIS THING IS PROBABLY
[02:21:23] GOING TO BE TELEVISED AND MAKE
[02:21:25] ALL THE NETWORKS HIS SPEECH, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE GOING TO
[02:21:29] DO A MINI CONVENTION. THAT'S
[02:21:35] SORT OF A COUNTER CONVENTION TO WHAT THE REPUBLICANS DID ABOUT A
[02:21:38] MONTH OR SO DALLAS. ONLY OBAMA COULD. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE HIM
[02:21:42] TAKE OFF THE BAND AID AND JUST RIP LIKE. LIKE HE PROBABLY
[02:21:45] WANTED TO WHEN HE BECAME PRESIDENT. BUT HE FELT PRESSURE
[02:21:48] THAT HE COULDN'T BECAUSE HE WAS THE FIRST BLACK MAN TO BE
[02:21:51] PRESIDENT. SOMEWHAT RESERVED.
[02:21:54] BUT. TOM. TOM, I'M SORRY TALK
[02:21:57] ABOUT. I'LL MAKE THIS QUICK, BECAUSE THERE'S ONE THING THAT
[02:22:00] NOBODY'S TALKING ABOUT THESE
[02:22:03] WHICH IS THE PRECEDENT THAT TRUMP HAS SET WITH HIS GOVERNING
[02:22:07] METHODS. HE'S PROVED ONCE AND FOREVER THAT THE CONSTITUTION IS
[02:22:10] NOTHING MORE SUGGESTIONS. IT'S
[02:22:13] NOT LAW, LAND. WELL, IT'S NOT LAW OF THE LAND, BECAUSE IT HAS
[02:22:16] NO ENFORCEMENT MECHANISMS. AND
[02:22:19] TRUMP PROVED THAT TO WHOMEVER CONTROLS THE DOJ AND U.S. MILITARY, THEY GET TO DETERMINE
[02:22:23] WHAT IS AND ISN'T CONSTITUTIONAL. THAT'S HOW HE'S
[02:22:27] OPERATED. HE ALSO HAS A SUPREME
[02:22:28] COURT POCKET, BUT IT'S MOSTLY
[02:22:31] THE MILITARY AND THE DA. IN
[02:22:33] ANOTHER FEW YEARS, WHEN BOOMERS
[02:22:36] AND ARE GONE AND THE GEN X ARE SOMEWHAT INCAPACITATED BECAUSE
[02:22:40] OF THEIR AGE, THE YOUNG PEOPLE THAT CONTROL OUR GOVERNMENT ARE NOT GOING TO FORGET THAT.
[02:22:44] THEY'RE NOT REQUIRED TO FOLLOW
[02:22:46] THE CONSTITUTION. THEY'RE GOING TO REBUILD AMERICA IN THEIR OWN
[02:22:50] IMAGE. THAT SUIT THEIR GENERATIONS. UH.
[02:22:52] >> YOU KNOW, MARK, THE, THE, THE
[02:22:54] LAST PRESIDENT WHO, WHO WAS
[02:22:58] ACCUSED OF BEING A DICTATOR AND IGNORING THE CONSTITUTION IN A
[02:23:00] BIG WAY BECAUSE HE DID SO MANY THINGS BY EXECUTIVE ORDER, THAT
[02:23:04] MANY OF WHICH WERE STRUCK DOWN BY THE SUPREME COURT WAS
[02:23:07] FRANKLIN ROOSEVELT. SO IT MAY BE
[02:23:10] A GOOD THING THAT DONALD TRUMP
[02:23:11] HAS KIND OF BLAZED THIS PATH,
[02:23:15] BECAUSE IF A BERNIE LIKE CHARACTER, IF RO KHANNA, FOR EXAMPLE, WHO, YOU KNOW, IS
[02:23:19] PRETTY, PRETTY CLEARLY GOING TO BE RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT, AND I
[02:23:22] WOULD LOVE TO SEE, AS PRESIDENT, IF HE BECAME PRESIDENT, USING
[02:23:26] THOSE KIND OF POWERS FOR GOOD INSTEAD OF FOR EVIL, MIGHT BE A
[02:23:30] GOOD THING. MARK, I GOTTA RUN, BUT THANKS FOR THE CALL. GREAT
[02:23:33] RANT. 22 MINUTES PAST THE HOUR. WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK.
[02:23:37] >> [MUSIC] [MUSIC]
[02:23:53] [MUSIC] >> THE COMMONWEALTH REPORT IS JOURNALISM THAT WORKS FOR YOU,
[02:23:57] NOT CORPORATIONS, NOT BILLIONAIRES. NEWS FOR THE
[02:24:00] PUBLIC, NOT THE POWERFUL. TWICE A DAY, WE BREAK DOWN WHAT
[02:24:03] MATTERS TO YOUR LIFE. VISIT COMMONWEALTH REPORT.NEWS AND
[02:24:07] JOIN US TODAY. STAY INFORMED.
[02:24:12] STAY EMPOWERED.
[02:24:12] >> [MUSIC]
[02:24:45] >> THOM HARTMANN HOSTS THE THOM >> [MUSIC] >> HARTMANN PROGRAM FROM PORTLAND, OREGON, AT NOON
[02:24:48] EASTERN MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, AND THEN AT 3 P.M. EASTERN
[02:24:52] MONDAY THROUGH THURSDAY. CONSERVATIVE RADIO HOST HUGH HEWITT HOSTS THE HUGH HEWITT
[02:24:56] SHOW FROM WASHINGTON, D.C. WATCH LIVE. ALL THIS MONTH, ON C-SPAN
[02:24:59] 2 ONLINE AT C-SPAN .ORG OR ON
[02:25:03] C-SPAN. NOW, OUR FREE MOBILE.
[02:25:06] >> A PRIEST, I GUESS, WHEN HE
[02:25:09] GROWS UP. GREW UP, WENT OFF, YOU
[02:25:12] IN OTHER DIRECTIONS. BUT HE HAD
[02:25:16] THE FLU AND HE WAS HOME FOR NINE
[02:25:18] DAYS WITH THE FLU FOR A WEEK AND
[02:25:20] A HALF. THERE'S APPARENTLY A PARTICULARLY NASTY FLU GOING AROUND. I GOT MY FLU SHOT ABOUT
[02:25:24] TWO WEEKS AGO, AND LOUISE HAS GOT TO GET IN THERE AND GET
[02:25:28] HERS. UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, IT'S,
[02:25:32] IT'S GOING. AND SO THIS
[02:25:38] CONSERVATIVE INFLUENCER POSTED WHAT HE CALLED A BREAKING
[02:25:42] EXCLUSIVE. HIS NAME IS NICK. UH,
[02:25:45] AND HE CLAIMED THAT OHIO
[02:25:46] FACILITY, QUOTE, CONFIRMS JAMES
[02:25:49] TALARICO WAS DISCHARGED FROM THE FACILITY EARLIER THIS WEEK. THE
[02:25:52] FLU THING WAS A BIG, FAT LIE. AND HE SAYS THAT THIS WAS A
[02:25:56] MENTAL HOSPITAL. UH, HE CREDITS
[02:26:01] REPORTING BY A COUPLE OF BLAZE TV HOSTS, AND HE POSTED A 16
[02:26:05] SECOND CLIP OF THIS CALL, GOT
[02:26:08] 850,000 VIEWS. AND NOW AND THEN REPUBLICANS STARTED RUNNING WITH
[02:26:11] THE STORY. UH, KIMBERLY CLARK,
[02:26:14] CLASSIC, CLASSIC, KLACIK. UH,
[02:26:18] SAYS, UH, SHE'S A RADIO HOST ON
[02:26:21] BALTIMORE'S WBCN. WHOA. MENTALLY, TALARICO IS UNABLE TO
[02:26:24] HANDLE THE PRESSURE. YOU KNOW, MATT SWOL, WHO DESCRIBES HIMSELF
[02:26:28] AS A FORMER NUCLEAR SCIENTIST THAT COMPLETELY DISQUALIFYING TO
[02:26:31] LIE LIKE THAT, HE SHOULD DROP OUT OF ME. THIS IS THIS IS NUTS.
[02:26:34] I MEAN, THE REPUBLICANS ARE LIKE, THEY'LL GRAB ON TO ANY
[02:26:38] LITTLE LIE AND TRY AND BLOW IT UP, LIKE, ALL OUT OF PROPORTION,
[02:26:41] BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO TALK
[02:26:44] ABOUT THE FACT THAT EVER SINCE THE REAGAN REVOLUTION, THE
[02:26:48] REPUBLICAN PARTY HAS BEEN ENTIRELY THE PARTY OF THE
[02:26:50] BILLIONAIRES AND THE BIG
[02:26:53] CORPORATIONS. WHEN RONALD REAGAN CAME INTO OFFICE, TWO THIRDS OF
[02:26:56] US WERE IN THE MIDDLE CLASS WITH A SINGLE PAYCHECK. TODAY, IT'S
[02:26:59] 41% OF US, AND IT TAKES TWO FULL
[02:27:03] TIME PAYCHECKS. THAT'S NOT AN
[02:27:05] ACCIDENT. THAT IS THE RESULT OF REAGANOMICS. WHEN FDR CAME INTO
[02:27:09] OFFICE, HE RAISED THE TOP INCOME
[02:27:12] TAX RATE ON THE MORBIDLY RICH TO 90%, AND HE KEPT IT THERE
[02:27:15] THROUGH THE FRANKLIN ROOSEVELT
[02:27:17] ADMINISTRATION, THE HARRY TRUMAN ADMINISTRATION, THE DWIGHT
[02:27:20] EISENHOWER ADMINISTRATION, THE
[02:27:22] JOHN KENNEDY ADMINISTRATION. LYNDON JOHNSON THEN LOWERED IT
[02:27:25] TO 74%, BUT CLOSED A WHOLE BUNCH OF LOOPHOLES. SO HE ACTUALLY
[02:27:29] INCREASED THE REVENUE COMING
[02:27:30] INTO THE GOVERNMENT. AND AND IT
[02:27:34] STAYED THERE, YOU KNOW, THROUGH
[02:27:35] THE NIXON ADMINISTRATION,
[02:27:40] THROUGH THE, UH, THROUGH THE, THROUGH THE FORD ADMINISTRATION, THROUGH THE >> [MUSIC]
[02:27:44] >> CARTER ADMINISTRATION. AND THEN REAGAN CAME ALONG AND SAID, OH, NO, NO, WE'RE GOING TO GIVE
[02:27:48] ALL THAT MONEY TO THE BILLIONAIRES. AND WE HAVE GIVEN
[02:27:51] THE BILLIONAIRES $40 TRILLION IN
[02:27:54] TAX BREAKS AND PUT IT ALL ON OUR CREDIT CARDS THAT OUR, OUR KIDS
[02:27:58] AND GRANDKIDS ARE GOING TO HAVE TO PAY FOR >> [MUSIC]
[02:28:02] >> JUST IT'S CRAZY. SO THEY
[02:28:04] DON'T WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT. SO, HEY, LET'S MAKE UP
[02:28:08] SOMETHING ABOUT TALARICO AND A MENTAL HOUSE. >> YOU'RE LISTENING TO THE THOM
[02:28:10] HARTMANN PROGRAM, CALL 2028089925.
[02:28:14] >> WHAT SAY YOU? I'LL PICK UP YOUR CALLS RIGHT AFTER THE
[02:28:17] BREAK. STICK AROUND.
[02:28:19] >> [MUSIC] [MUSIC]
[02:28:40] >> TRUMP HANDS PUTIN A DIESEL
[02:28:42] WINDFALL. TARIFFS HAMMER. OHIO
[02:28:45] FACTORIES. TEXAS CENSORS. PROFESSORS. MEDICAID CUTS.
[02:28:48] CLOSE. MATERNITY WARDS. VANCE
[02:28:51] INSULTS A BLACK CANDIDATE AND TRUMP RAGES AT NORWAY. GOOD
[02:28:54] MORNING. THIS IS THE COMMONWEALTH REPORT. NEWS FOR THE PUBLIC, NOT THE POWERFUL.
[02:28:58] YOU CAN FOLLOW US AT
[02:28:59] COMMONWEALTH REPORT.NEWS. DID TRUMP JUST HAND PUTIN A GIFT?
[02:29:03] WHILE AMERICAN DRIVERS GET NOTHING, DONALD TRUMP JUST CUT A
[02:29:06] DEAL WITH VLADIMIR PUTIN. ON
[02:29:10] FRIDAY, HE ANNOUNCED RUSSIA WILL SHIP 300,000 TONS OF DIESEL
[02:29:14] RIGHT AWAY, 500,000 MORE IN NOVEMBER, THAN A MILLION THAN
[02:29:17] ANOTHER 3 MILLION AFTER THAT, HIS TREASURY DEPARTMENT EASED
[02:29:20] SANCTIONS ON RUSSIAN DIESEL INTO APRIL OF 2027. THIS COMES ONE
[02:29:24] MONTH AFTER TRUMP SIGNED A LAW MEANT TO CHOKE OFF THE MONEY.
[02:29:28] THE OIL MONEY THAT PAYS FOR PUTIN'S WAR. UKRAINE'S
[02:29:31] PRESIDENT ZELENSKY CALLED IT A GIFT TO PUTIN AND WARNED, QUOTE,
[02:29:35] RUSSIA WILL REPAY THE DIESEL
[02:29:38] WITH FURTHER TERROR AND PERFIDY. AND ENERGY EXPERTS SAY IT PROBABLY WON'T LOWER PRICES.
[02:29:42] MUCH DIESEL SITTING AT 628 A GALLON, DRIVEN UP BY TRUMP'S OWN
[02:29:44] WAR WITH IRAN. SO PUTIN GETS
[02:29:47] CASH FOR HIS WAR MACHINE. UKRAINE GETS MORE BOMBS, AND
[02:29:51] AMERICAN AND TRUCKERS AND
[02:29:52] FARMERS GET A PRESS RELEASE. OUR
[02:29:56] TRUMP'S TARIFFS CRUSHING THE VERY FACTORIES HE PROMISED TO
[02:29:57] SAVE. ASKED DOUG RUNDY. HE RUNS
[02:30:01] SHAPES UNLIMITED AND ALUMINUM PRODUCTS MANUFACTURER IN NORTH
[02:30:03] JACKSON, OHIO. TRUMP'S ALUMINUM
[02:30:05] TARIFFS CLIMBED FROM 10 TO 20 5%
[02:30:08] TO 50%, AND RANDY SAYS THEY'RE
[02:30:10] COSTING HIM, QUOTE, UPWARDS OF 4.5 TO $5 MILLION THIS YEAR
[02:30:14] ALONE, END QUOTE. SHIPPING SURCHARGES TIED TO THE IRAN WAR
[02:30:17] ARE AS HIGH AS $6,500 A CONTAINER, SO HE STOPPED HIRING,
[02:30:21] AND HE'S BUYING ROBOTS INSTEAD.
[02:30:24] OVER IN WARREN, COUNTERTOP MAKER SAM MILLER PAYS TARIFFS ON
[02:30:27] MATERIALS FROM ASIA AND CAN'T EXPAND INTO CANADA, WHERE TRADE
[02:30:31] TALKS COLLAPSED IN AUGUST. CANADA BUYS A THIRD OF
[02:30:34] EVERYTHING. OHIO EXPORTS. THE SUPREME COURT STRUCK DOWN MANY OF THESE TARIFFS. TRUMP PUT THEM
[02:30:38] RIGHT BACK. TARIFFS ARE SOLD AS A GIFT TO WORKING PEOPLE, BUT
[02:30:41] THEY'VE TURNED IT INTO A TAX ON
[02:30:43] THE FOLKS WHO ACTUALLY MAKE THINGS WELL. TEXAS POLITICIANS
[02:30:47] NOW DECIDE WHAT EVERY PROFESSOR
[02:30:48] IS ALLOWED TO TEACH. THE
[02:30:52] ATLANTIC REPORTS THAT THAT STATE, THE STATE NOW CONTROLS WHAT PROFESSORS CAN TEACH. UNDER
[02:30:56] A LAW WRITTEN BY FORMER
[02:30:58] REPUBLICAN STATE SENATOR BRANDON CREIGHTON. REGENTS. REGENTS
[02:31:01] PICKED BY GOVERNOR GREG ABBOTT,
[02:31:04] HOLD POWER OVER THE CURRICULUM. TEXAS A&M AND TEXAS TECH
[02:31:08] RESTRICTED TEACHING ABOUT RACE, GENDER, AND SEXUAL ORIENTATION.
[02:31:11] A&M SHUT DOWN ITS WOMEN'S AND GENDER STUDIES DEGREE.
[02:31:15] UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS REGENTS VOTED TO LIMIT WHAT THEY CALL, QUOTE, UNNECESSARY,
[02:31:19] CONTROVERSIAL SUBJECTS. ONE A&M PHILOSOPHY PROFESSOR SAID HE
[02:31:23] WASN'T ALLOWED TO TEACH PLATO. ANOTHER WAS FIRED AFTER A LESSON
[02:31:26] ON GENDER IDENTITY, AND SHE'S
[02:31:29] SUING A NEW STATE OFFICE NOW
[02:31:31] INVESTIGATES COMPLAINTS ABOUT PROFESSORS IN A GOVERNMENT THAT
[02:31:35] PICKS WHICH IDEAS ARE LEGAL IN A
[02:31:36] CLASSROOM IS TRAINING, OBEDIENCE
[02:31:40] AND DEMOCRACY CAN'T SURVIVE ON THAT. HOW MANY MORE MATERNITY
[02:31:43] WARDS WILL CLOSE BEFORE REPUBLICANS ADMIT WHAT THEY DID?
[02:31:47] THE GUARDIAN REPORTS 52 MATERNITY WARDS HAVE CLOSED SINCE JULY OF LAST YEAR, WHEN
[02:31:51] TRUMP'S BIG, BEAUTIFUL BILL BECAME LAW. ANOTHER EIGHT HAVE
[02:31:54] ANNOUNCED THEY'RE CLOSING, ACCORDING TO THE GROUP PROTECT
[02:31:57] OUR CARE. THAT BILL CUT NEARLY
[02:32:00] $1 TRILLION FROM MEDICAID, AND MEDICAID PAYS FOR MORE THAN 40%
[02:32:03] OF BIRTHS IN AMERICA. HOSPITALS IN VIRGINIA AND RURAL GEORGIA
[02:32:06] POINTED TO THE COMING CUTS WHEN THEY SHUT DOWN THEIR UNITS FOR
[02:32:08] GOOD. THE MARCH OF DIMES SAYS 31
[02:32:12] MORE RURAL HOSPITALS ARE AT RISK, AND IF THEY GO, 96
[02:32:15] COUNTIES LOSE THEIR LAST PLACE TO DELIVER A BABY. SENATOR RON
[02:32:19] WYDEN WARNED THIS SUMMER, QUOTE, MATERNITY WARDS ACROSS AMERICA
[02:32:22] ARE SHUTTERING THEIR DOORS. AND THE WORST OF IT, INCLUDING WORK
[02:32:26] REQUIREMENTS, DOESN'T EVEN START UNTIL JANUARY. THEY TOOK HEALTH CARE FROM MOTHERS AND
[02:32:29] BABIES TO PAY FOR BILLIONAIRE
[02:32:32] TAX CUTS. REMEMBER THAT IN NOVEMBER, JD VANCE TELLS A BLACK
[02:32:36] SENATE CANDIDATE SHE DOESN'T BELONG IN AMERICA. AT A CAMPAIGN
[02:32:39] STOP IN LAKELAND, FLORIDA, ON OCTOBER 1st, THE VICE PRESIDENT
[02:32:42] WENT AFTER ANGIE NIXON, THE DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE FOR U.S.
[02:32:46] SENATE. THE FLORIDA PHOENIX REPORTS. HE SAID SHE DOESN'T BELONG IN AMERICA, AND C-SPAN
[02:32:50] VIDEO SHOWS HIM TELLING HER TO GET THE HELL OUT OF THE COUNTRY
[02:32:53] IF SHE'S A SOCIALIST. NIXON IS
[02:32:56] BLACK. HER FAMILY'S BEEN IN
[02:32:58] FLORIDA FOR GENERATIONS, SHE FIRED BACK FRIDAY, QUOTE, I
[02:33:02] DON'T NEED JD VANCE PERMISSION TO BELONG HERE. AND SHE POINTED OUT THAT THE SENATOR USHA VANCE
[02:33:06] SIDE, ASHLEY MOODY, WAS NEVER ELECTED. MOODY WAS APPOINTED IN
[02:33:10] 2025 TO MARCO RUBIO'S SEAT. NIXON CALLED THE ATTACK A
[02:33:14] DESPERATE DISTRACTION FROM RISING INSURANCE, RENT AND
[02:33:16] HEALTH CARE COSTS, TELLING BLACK AMERICANS TO LEAVE THE COUNTRY
[02:33:19] IS ONE OF THE OLDEST AND UGLIEST TRICKS IN OUR POLITICS. IT
[02:33:22] DESERVES AN ANSWER AT THE BALLOT
[02:33:26] BOX, TRUMP RAGES AT NORWAY AFTER THE NOBEL PRIZE GOES TO SOMEONE
[02:33:30] ELSE. THE NOBEL PEACE PRIZE WENT
[02:33:32] FRIDAY TO NAVI PILLAY, A THE 85 YEAR OLD SOUTH AFRICAN JURIST
[02:33:36] WHO DEFENDED ANTI-APARTHEID
[02:33:38] ACTIVISTS, JUDGED THE RWANDA GENOCIDE TRIALS AND LATER RAN
[02:33:42] HUMAN RIGHTS FOR THE UN. DONALD
[02:33:45] TRUMP DIDN'T TAKE IT WELL. AT A RALLY IN SYRACUSE, NEW YORK, HE
[02:33:48] CALLED HER A MYSTERY PERSON AND WARNED THAT WE WILL NOT FORGET
[02:33:52] NORWAY. THEN HE POSTED THAT HE SHOULD HAVE WON EIGHT NOBEL PRIZES, ONE FOR EACH WAR. HE
[02:33:56] CLAIMS HE SETTLED AND CALLED THE
[02:33:58] DECISION AN INDELIBLE STAIN ON
[02:34:00] NORWAY. SMALL PROBLEM NORWAY'S
[02:34:03] GOVERNMENT GOVERNMENT DOESN'T PICK THE WINNER. AN INDEPENDENT
[02:34:07] COMMITTEE DOES. PILLAY GOT THE NEWS AT A CONFERENCE IN NUREMBERG AND TOLD THE CHEERING ROOM, IF YOU CLAP A LITTLE BIT
[02:34:11] MORE, I MAY SHARE THIS PRIZE
[02:34:12] WITH TRUMP, A MAN WHO THREATENS
[02:34:16] A COUNTRY OVER A TROPHY HAS TOLD YOU EVERYTHING ABOUT WHY HE
[02:34:19] DIDN'T GET IT, AND THAT'S THE WAY IT IS TODAY. MONDAY, OCTOBER
[02:34:22] 12th, 2026. I'M THOM HARTMANN.
[02:34:37] >> [MUSIC] [MUSIC]
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[02:36:08] >> LATER TODAY. UTAH'S REPUBLICAN GOVERNOR, SPENCER
[02:36:11] COX, SITS DOWN FOR A
[02:36:14] CONVERSATION WITH FORMER OBAMA SENIOR ADVISOR DAVID AXELROD.
[02:36:17] THE DISCUSSION, WHICH WILL PROMOTE CIVIL DISAGREEMENT, WILL FOCUS ON THE POLITICAL CULTURE
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[02:36:53] SHERIDAN, OREGON. HEY, RENEE.
[02:36:55] WHAT'S UP? >> HEY. HI, TOM. THANKS FOR
[02:36:58] EVERYTHING YOU DO. UM, I JUST WANT TO MENTION SOMETHING. A
[02:37:02] LETTER TO THE EDITOR THAT I WROTE. THE NEWS-REGISTER IN
[02:37:06] MCMINNVILLE. UH, THIS WEEK. AND I'M AMAZED. UM, I THOUGHT IT
[02:37:09] WAS PRETTY GOOD. THERE'S A RED
[02:37:13] COUNTY, AND THE NEWS-REGISTER LEANS LEFT, SO I WAS SHOCKED TO
[02:37:17] SEE, UH, THEY WERE ENDORSING
[02:37:21] CHRISTINE DRAZAN, A REPUBLICAN AGAINST THE INCUMBENT DEMOCRAT.
[02:37:25] UH, TINA KOTEK. BUT MY, I WANT
[02:37:27] TO SAY MY LETTER INCLUDED 21
[02:37:30] POINTS THAT TRUMP HAD DONE. AND
[02:37:35] CHRIS STEVENSON ALL OVER IN, IN,
[02:37:42] OREGON. AND I MADE IT.
[02:37:45] NON-ACCUSATORY NON OFFENSIVE.
[02:37:48] THE FACTS ARE IN THE NEWS. AND I
[02:37:52] ACTUALLY SAW REPUBLICANS IN MCMINNVILLE. THAT'S OUR COUNTY
[02:37:56] SEAT COLLECTING SIGNATURES TO END MAIL IN VOTING. SO A VOTE
[02:37:59] FOR DRAZAN IS A VOTE TO END MAIL IN VOTING. >> YEAH.
[02:38:03] >> SHE'S SHE'S ONLY. >> SHE SAID THAT MULTIPLE TIMES
[02:38:05] IN THE PAST. I HAVE
[02:38:09] >> YEAH. SO WE JUST HAVE TO ELECT ONLY PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING
[02:38:12] TO STAND UP TO TRUMP. THAT'S. WE
[02:38:16] MUST ELECT THOSE PEOPLE. AND I HOPE PEOPLE WAKE UP AND AND NOT
[02:38:19] VOTE FOR THE BILLIONAIRES. UH, AND PUT THE DEMOCRATS BACK IN
[02:38:23] OFFICE AND VOTE BLUE, NO MATTER WHO. >> WELL SAID.
[02:38:27] >> THAT'S WHAT I GOT TO SAY. >> OKAY. YOU SAID IT. WELL,
[02:38:29] THANK YOU VERY MUCH. KELVIN
[02:38:31] GROVE CITY, OHIO. HEY, KELVIN,
[02:38:33] WHAT'S ON YOUR MIND TODAY
[02:38:36] >> UM >> PROUD TO TALK TO YOU.
[02:38:39] >> THANK YOU.
[02:38:47] >> PUTIN. PUTIN WAS A COMMUNIST KGB HE WAS. YOU KNOW, THE
[02:38:51] DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A, YOU KNOW,
[02:38:52] COMMUNISM WAS, IS HE HE WAS A
[02:38:55] PROUD COMMUNIST. AND HE ALSO THE
[02:39:00] COMMUNIST AND SOCIALIST WAS TWO SEPARATE THINGS. IF THEY TAKE
[02:39:04] THE COMMUNIST PARTY OUT OF IT, THE COMMUNISTS BELIEVE THAT. NO,
[02:39:08] NO CHURCHES WERE ALLOWED TO BE. THEY WEREN'T. THEY. THEY
[02:39:11] DIDN'T BELIEVE IN CHRIST OR, OR ANY KIND OF RELIGION. >> TRUE.
[02:39:14] >> AND IF YOU IF YOU THINK.
[02:39:18] >> PUTIN IS EXPLOITING PUTIN, PUTIN IS REALLY PUSHING
[02:39:20] RELIGION. NOW. HE'S HE'S PULLING A TRUMP ON THIS, YOU KNOW. YES. I'M SO PIOUS.
[02:39:24] >> HE'S ACTUALLY, HE'S, HE'S A
[02:39:26] FALSE HE'S A FALSE, UH, HE
[02:39:29] DIDN'T BELIEVE IN CHRIST OR ANYBODY, ANY RELIGION BEFORE
[02:39:32] THAT. HE JUST USING, USING THEM LIKE THEY, LIKE HE'S USING AMERICA.
[02:39:36] >> YEP. I AGREE WITH YOU. >> AND WHAT HAPPENED WAS THEY
[02:39:39] SHOULD, THEY EVERYBODY SHOULD KNOW THAT SOCIALISM ACTUALLY IS
[02:39:43] A CHRISTIAN. UH, CHRIST. CHRIST
[02:39:48] IS A SOCIALIST. >> OH, THEY HAD A COMMON PURSE. UH, JUDAS WAS THE GUY WHO WAS
[02:39:51] RESPONSIBLE FOR KEEPING ALL THE MONEY IN ONE BAG. UH, THEY
[02:39:54] SHARED EVERYTHING, UH, YOU KNOW, LIKE, WITH EACH OTHER, THEY
[02:39:56] THEY, UH. YEAH. YEAH, IT'S, UH,
[02:40:00] THAT WAS THE ACTUAL. THAT WAS ACTUAL MARXISM, YOU KNOW? SO.
[02:40:03] CALVIN. WELL SAID. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, DAVE. IN TULSA,
[02:40:07] OKLAHOMA. DAVID. EXCUSE ME. IN TULSA, OKLAHOMA. HEY, DAVID, WHAT'S ON YOUR MIND TODAY?
[02:40:11] >> UH, YEAH, WE'RE SOCIAL
[02:40:13] CREATURES AND, AND HAVING SOCIAL
[02:40:17] CONTRACTS, FORMING SOCIETIES, AND WE'RE SOCIALISTS. YEAH. UH,
[02:40:20] THIS IS ON HOW DO WE REPAIR
[02:40:23] THINGS? UH, VEIN AND WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE JUDICIARY. AND
[02:40:27] I'M INFAMOUS. I'M WELL AWARE OF WHAT'S GOING ON AT THE
[02:40:30] GROUND LEVEL, BECAUSE I HAVE SEVERAL FRIENDS. AND ONE OF THE
[02:40:32] THINGS THAT WAS A YOUTUBE CLIP,
[02:40:35] AND THE GUY'S, THE JUDGE WAS LIKE, OKAY, I CAN GIVE YOU
[02:40:38] PROBATION. I'LL GIVE YOU AN ANKLE MONITOR. AND HE'S LIKE,
[02:40:41] SEND ME BACK TO JAIL. AND YOU
[02:40:46] GET OUT AND, AND YOU HAVE TO, YOU HAVE TO PAY EVERY, YOU KNOW,
[02:40:50] YOU YOU'VE GOT ALL THESE FINES,
[02:40:54] YOU'VE GOT TO DO. WELL, SEND ME BACK TO JAIL. AND SHE'S LIKE, IF I SEND YOU BACK TO JAIL, I'M
[02:40:58] GOING TO GIVE YOU MORE TIME. AND
[02:41:03] HE SAYS, SEND ME BACK WHAT'S GOING ON. IS IN $100 A WEEK TO
[02:41:07] PAY FOR YOUR GPS. AND THEN YOU
[02:41:10] HAVE TO PAY LIKE $30 A WEEK FOR
[02:41:13] YOUR DRUG TO MANDATORY DRUG TEST. AND OF COURSE, THEY DON'T
[02:41:16] HELP ANY AS FAR AS GETTING TRANSPORTATION TO GO TO THAT
[02:41:19] PARTICULAR LAB WHERE YOU HAVE TO
[02:41:21] TAKE IT AT THIS SPECIFIC TIME. AND IF THEY DON'T, WE'RE GOING
[02:41:25] TO SEND YOU TO JAIL. WE'RE GOING TO TAKE YOUR KIDS AWAY. WE'RE GOING TO PUT THEM IN
[02:41:28] FOSTER. >> DEBTOR'S PRISON ALL OVER AGAIN.
[02:41:30] >> RIGHT. AND IT'S
[02:41:34] >> WHICH WAS OUTLAWED IN 1833.
[02:41:40] >> THE DRUG KINGPIN CONFISCATION LAWS. AND EVERYBODY JUMPED ON THIS. WE'RE GOING TO MAKE THE
[02:41:44] CRIMINALS PAY. AND HERE IN
[02:41:46] OKLAHOMA, WE WERE ESPECIALLY
[02:41:48] VOCAL ON THAT BECAUSE THEY WERE CONFISCATING, OH, YOU BOUGHT SOME WEED AND GRANDMOTHER'S
[02:41:52] CAR. WELL, GUESS WHAT? GRANDMA'S CAR IS NOW ON THE ON
[02:41:55] THE FOR SALE LOT. THE POLICE
[02:41:57] AUCTION. RIGHT. AND YEAH, YOU
[02:41:59] KNOW AND IT'S GOT TO THE
[02:42:03] ABSURD. PEOPLE LOSE THEIR PROPERTY BECAUSE SOMEBODY'S GROWING POT IN THE BACK 40 AND,
[02:42:08] UH, AND ALL OF THIS IS, IS AROUND EXTRACTING THE MONEY
[02:42:12] BECAUSE THEY CUT THE TAXES. THIS
[02:42:15] GAVE THEM EXCUSE FOR TAX CUTS. KEATING. IN FACT, PART OF THE
[02:42:18] KEATING TAX CUTS. YEAH. UH,
[02:42:22] SAID, OKAY, SO NOW WE DON'T NEED
[02:42:23] TO GIVE THE, THE COURTS AS MUCH
[02:42:26] MONEY OUT OF THE STATE COFFERS.
[02:42:28] SO THE BAILIFFS AND ALL THAT. SO
[02:42:31] NOW THE WHOLE SYSTEM IS FEEDING ON THIS THING. OH, WE'RE GOING
[02:42:34] TO MAKE THE CRIMINALS PAY. EXCEPT, YOU KNOW, IT'S THE, THE OBVIOUS THING. WELL, USUALLY
[02:42:38] CRIMINALS DON'T HAVE MONEY. THAT'S WHY THEY'RE CRIMINALS.
[02:42:40] >> YEAH. AND YOU KNOW WHERE ALL THIS STARTED. YOU KNOW, WHEN,
[02:42:44] WHEN THEY FINALLY TRACKED DOWN JOHN EHRLICHMAN ABOUT A DECADE
[02:42:46] AGO, BEFORE HE DIED, UM, YOU
[02:42:48] KNOW, WHO WAS RICHARD NIXON'S RIGHT HAND MAN? AND ASKED HIM,
[02:42:52] YOU KNOW, WHAT WAS THE DEAL WITH THE WAR ON DRUGS? HE SAYS, LET
[02:42:54] ME TELL YOU ABOUT THE WAR ON DRUGS. I'M PARAPHRASING, BY THE WAY, BUT IT'S PRETTY, PRETTY
[02:42:58] CLOSE, HE SAID, WE HAD IN THE NIXON ADMINISTRATION, WE HAD TWO
[02:43:01] ENEMIES, BLACK PEOPLE AND ANTI-WAR HIPPIES. AND YOU
[02:43:05] COULDN'T OUTLAW BEING BLACK, AND YOU COULDN'T OUTLAW BEING
[02:43:08] AGAINST THE WAR. SO WHAT WE DID WAS WE HEAVILY CRIMINALIZED THE
[02:43:12] DRUGS THAT THOSE TWO COMMUNITIES WERE USING, HEROIN AND
[02:43:14] MARIJUANA. AND USED THOSE THAT
[02:43:17] HEAVILY, EXCEPT, YOU KNOW, EXCESSIVE CRIMINALIZATION OF
[02:43:21] THOSE DRUGS TO BREAK UP THEIR COMMUNITIES, GO AFTER THEIR
[02:43:24] LEADERS AND TAKE THEM DOWN. AND,
[02:43:28] AND, AND EVERYTHING THAT YOU JUST DESCRIBED, DAVID, IS THE
[02:43:31] FRUIT OF THAT PARTICULAR POISON TREE. SO, DAVID, YOU SAID IT SO WELL. THANK YOU VERY MUCH,
[02:43:34] DUANE. IN PETALUMA, CALIFORNIA. DUANE, WHAT'S ON YOUR MIND
[02:43:37] TODAY?
[02:43:39] >> HI, TOM. 14th AMENDMENT.
[02:43:43] DUANE, BUT WITH A VERY SMALL
[02:43:46] PROJECT US, UH, GET A
[02:43:51] CERTIFICATE OF MAILING WHEN WE GO TO THE POST OFFICE TO MAIL
[02:43:53] OUR BALLOT. AND THAT GIVES A WRITTEN DOCUMENT FROM THE POST
[02:43:57] OFFICE ITSELF AS TO WHEN YOU ACTUALLY PUT YOUR BALLOT IN.
[02:44:01] MHM. AND YOU COMPARE THAT ONLINE
[02:44:03] WITH WHEN THEY RECEIVE IT AT
[02:44:05] YOUR LOCAL CLERK, YOUR THAT YOU
[02:44:08] COULD SEE ANY PROGRAMS THAT
[02:44:11] BEFORE THE ACTUAL COUNT OF ANY
[02:44:12] DELAYING OF, UH, MAIL IN
[02:44:18] BALLOTS. YEAH. I. >> I GET IT, DUANE. IF YOU'RE, IF YOU'RE PARTICULARLY NERVOUS ABOUT THAT, OR IF YOU LIVE IN AN
[02:44:21] AREA WHERE THE POST I, YOU KNOW, I POSTED, WE TALKED ABOUT THIS
[02:44:25] LAST WEEK ON THE AIR AND, UM, ON
[02:44:28] FRIDAY, I POSTED A PIECE ON DAILYKOS POINTING OUT THAT I'D
[02:44:32] HAD A BUNCH OF PEOPLE FROM AROUND THE COUNTRY CALLING IN AND SAYING THAT THEIR MAIL WAS TAKING WEEKS, YOU KNOW, AND
[02:44:36] THERE WAS THAT STORY IN ASTORIA, OREGON, WHERE, WHERE IT WAS
[02:44:39] TAKING A MONTH FOR A POSTCARD TO
[02:44:41] GO FROM ASTORIA TO ASTORIA. AND,
[02:44:45] UH, IT WAS INTERESTING BECAUSE PEOPLE ALL OVER THE COUNTRY WERE RESPONDING IN THE COMMENTS
[02:44:49] SECTION THERE ON DAILYKOS, AND SOME OF THEM WERE SAYING, YOU KNOW, YEAH, THE MAIL HERE HAS
[02:44:53] JUST GONE TO HELL. AND IT TAKES, YOU KNOW, TWO WEEKS TO GET A MAIL, YOU KNOW, TO GET A LETTER
[02:44:57] ACROSS TOWN. AND OTHER PEOPLE WERE SAYING, MY MAIL IS STILL
[02:45:00] RUNNING JUST FINE. AND MY SUSPICION IS IT HAS TO DO WITH
[02:45:03] WHEN LOUIS DEJOY DESTROYED THOSE
[02:45:06] MORE THAN $100 MILLION HIGH
[02:45:08] SPEED SORTING MACHINES. AND, AND
[02:45:12] THEY, YOU KNOW, KIND OF RECONFIGURED THE POST OFFICE TO TRY TO PREPARE IT, TO PRIVATIZE
[02:45:16] IT TO, TO FEDEX OR UPS THAT THE
[02:45:21] DESTRUCTION OF THE POSTAL SERVICE WAS NOT UNIFORM ALL ACROSS THE COUNTRY, THAT THERE
[02:45:24] ARE SOME AREAS WHERE IT'S, IT'S STILL WORKING WELL. AND
[02:45:28] THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S, UH, SO, YOU KNOW, WE'LL SEE. BUT IF
[02:45:32] YOU'RE IN AN AREA THAT YOU GOT TO WORRY ABOUT. DUANE. SPOT ON. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE
[02:45:36] CALL. I'LL BE BACK WITH MORE OF YOUR CALLS IN JUST A MOMENT.
[02:45:39] STAY WITH US.
[02:45:42] >> [MUSIC]
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[02:46:18] [MUSIC] >> AND WELCOME BACK. AUGUSTA IN CAPE VINCENT, NEW YORK. HEY,
[02:46:22] AUGUSTA, WHAT'S ON YOUR MIND TODAY?
[02:46:24] >> WELL, ON MY MIND. I LISTENED TO MIMI TALKING TODAY, AND I
[02:46:27] THINK SHE'S. SHE'S RIGHT ABOUT EVERYTHING. I'VE WORKED THE
[02:46:31] POLLS FOR 30 DIFFERENT YEARS.
[02:46:33] MHM. AND I'M. I'M FRIGHTENED
[02:46:35] THAT THIS YEAR, WE SEEM TO HAVE FORGOTTEN THAT MR. TRUMP. MR.
[02:46:39] TURNIP SAID THAT HE'S GOING TO
[02:46:43] HAVE ICE PRESENT AT EVERY POLLING PLACE. MHM. AND THAT
[02:46:47] SMACKS TO ME, IS THAT HE WANTS TO BE SURE THAT SOME HISPANIC OR
[02:46:50] SOMEBODY THAT LOOKS LIKE HISPANIC, OR THEY MIGHT LEAVE
[02:46:54] SOMETHING BROWN, THEY CAN'T GO IN TO VOTE. YEAH. >> TRUMP HASN'T SAID THAT. THAT
[02:46:56] WAS STEVE BANNON WHO SAID THAT. JUST FYI, JUST TO KEEP THE
[02:47:00] RECORD STRAIGHT. >> OKAY. I THOUGHT IT WAS TRUMP. >> NO. TRUMP HAS DENIED IT. AND.
[02:47:04] >> OH, THAT'S GOOD TO HEAR. BUT
[02:47:07] YOU KNOW, HE SAYS THINGS ON
[02:47:08] FRIDAY. AND THEN HE GOES HOME.
[02:47:13] AND ON MONDAY THE MARKET CHANGES
[02:47:14] IN HIS FAVOR. I'VE NOTICED THAT EVERY FRIDAY HE MAKES SOME
[02:47:18] STUPID STATEMENT. AND PEOPLE
[02:47:20] PANIC. AND THEY SELL OFF. I HAVE
[02:47:24] TWO COUSINS THAT WATCH THE STOCK MARKET, AND THEY SAID, YEAH, ON
[02:47:28] FRIDAY. IT'S LIKE EVERYBODY
[02:47:30] SELLS. AND THE MILLIONAIRES BUY AT A CHEAP RATE. AND SO
[02:47:34] THEREFORE, THE STOCKS KEEP GOING TO THE BILLIONAIRES. YEAH. AND
[02:47:37] THERE'S SOMETHING WRONG WITH THAT.
[02:47:39] >> YEAH I AGREE, I AGREE. YEAH
[02:47:43] >> AHEAD. GO >> NO. YOU MAKE YOUR FINAL
[02:47:46] POINT. I'M GOING TO MOVE ALONG TO THE NEXT CALLER HERE.
[02:47:49] >> YEAH. MY FINAL TRIED TALKING
[02:47:53] WITH A PERSON THAT I KNOW WORKED THE REPUBLICAN PARTY DOWN IN
[02:47:57] FLORIDA, AND SHE IS A DEAD
[02:48:01] ABSOLUTELY. TRUMP CAN DO
[02:48:02] ABSOLUTELY NO WRONG AND HEGSETH
[02:48:05] CAN DO NO WRONG. AND WHEN I POINTED OUT THAT THERE WAS A CONSTITUTIONAL ISSUE HERE, SHE
[02:48:09] SAID, I DON'T CARE WHETHER IT IS OR NOT. THOSE PEOPLE ARE SO
[02:48:11] BAD. WE'VE GOT TO GET RID OF THEM. DO YOU KNOW ANYBODY? I
[02:48:15] SAID, DO YOU KNOW ANYONE? I CAN'T HATE SOMEBODY UNLESS I
[02:48:19] KNOW THEM PERSONALLY. MHM. YEAH,
[02:48:21] I CAN'T, I, I CAN'T GO WITH THAT. SO THAT'S MY LAST STATEMENT.
[02:48:25] >> YEAH. OKAY. WELL WELL SAID AUGUSTA. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
[02:48:27] AND IN MESA, ARIZONA. HEY. AND WHAT'S ON YOUR MIND TODAY?
[02:48:31] >> HEY, TOM. HOW ARE YOU? >> GOOD. WHAT'S UP?
[02:48:34] >> I'M. >> UH. >> VERY IRRITATED.
[02:48:37] >> UH, SENIOR CITIZEN AND
[02:48:40] INSULTED BY THAT $90 BRIBE THAT
[02:48:44] WE ALL GOT IN THE MAIL RECENTLY.
[02:48:46] AND SO, RATHER THAN BE ANGRY
[02:48:50] BECAUSE GOD KNOWS THE REPUBLICANS GIVE YOU SOMETHING
[02:48:53] TO BE ANGRY ABOUT EVERY DAY, YOU HAVE TO DO SOMETHING. AND SO
[02:48:57] WHAT I DID, AND I WOULD
[02:48:58] RECOMMEND OTHERS DO, IS I
[02:49:03] DONATED THAT MONEY TO A TWO
[02:49:05] DIFFERENT NONPROFITS IN MY AREA
[02:49:07] THAT, UH, THAT I KNOW HAVE BEEN
[02:49:12] UNDERFUNDED OR DEFUNDED BY THE,
[02:49:13] UH, BY THE, UH, BIG, BEAUTIFUL
[02:49:16] BILL AND ALL OF THAT MALARKEY. >> YEAH. WELL, GOOD.
[02:49:19] >> ON YOU. SO I DONATED RESCUE
[02:49:23] MISSION, WHICH HELPS, YOU KNOW, THE, THE FAMILIES THAT FALL
[02:49:26] THROUGH THE, UH, AND NO LONGER
[02:49:29] EXISTENT, UH, NET AND ALSO SAINT
[02:49:32] MARY'S FOOD BANK. AND I URGE
[02:49:36] PEOPLE TO THINK ABOUT DOING THOSE THINGS BECAUSE ON TOP OF
[02:49:40] EVERYTHING, YOU WILL GET A TAX
[02:49:42] CREDIT. MHM. AND SO IT'LL HELP
[02:49:49] YOU ON THE BACK END WITH YOUR TAXES. IF THAT'S AN ISSUE. SO I
[02:49:53] JUST, I WANTED TO SHARE THAT TODAY WITH THE, WITH YOUR AUDIENCE.
[02:49:57] >> WELL, THANK YOU ANNE. YOU'RE DOING GOOD STUFF. THANK YOU SO
[02:50:00] MUCH FOR THE FOR THE CALL AND KEEP IT UP. YOU'RE AN
[02:50:03] INSPIRATION. THANK YOU. ANNE. WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK WITH MORE
[02:50:06] OF YOUR CALLS IN JUST ONE MINUTE. STAY TUNED.
[02:50:10] >> [MUSIC]
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[02:50:22] RADIO SIMULCAST WITH VOICES FROM
[02:50:24] ACROSS THE POLITICAL SPECTRUM. THIS WEEK, PROGRESSIVE
[02:50:28] COMMENTATOR THOM HARTMANN HOSTS THE THOM HARTMANN PROGRAM FROM PORTLAND, OREGON, AT NOON
[02:50:32] EASTERN MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, AND THEN AT 3 P.M. EASTERN MONDAY THROUGH THURSDAY.
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[02:50:49] >> LATER TODAY. UTAH'S REPUBLICAN GOVERNOR, SPENCER COX, SITS DOWN FOR A
[02:50:54] CONVERSATION WITH FORMER OBAMA SENIOR ADVISOR DAVID AXELROD.
[02:50:57] THE DISCUSSION, WHICH WILL PROMOTE CIVIL DISAGREEMENT, WILL
[02:51:00] FOCUS ON THE POLITICAL CULTURE IN POST-TRUMP AMERICA. WATCH
[02:51:04] LIVE FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF
[02:51:06] CHICAGO AT 6:30 P.M. EASTERN ON
[02:51:09] C-SPAN. C-SPAN NOW. OUR FREE
[02:51:10] MOBILE APP OR ONLINE AT
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[02:51:21] >> THE ROAD. >> TO THE CAPITOL RUNS THROUGH AMERICA'S BATTLEGROUND STATES, AND C-SPAN IS THERE. OUR CAMERAS
[02:51:25] ARE ON THE GROUND FOLLOWING THE CAMPAIGNS WHERE THE TOUGHEST
[02:51:28] RACES WILL DECIDE THE BALANCE OF POWER IN CONGRESS. WE'RE THE
[02:51:31] ONLY NATIONAL TELEVISION NETWORK PROVIDING THIS LEVEL OF UNFILTERED ACCESS TO THE
[02:51:35] CANDIDATES, THE VOTERS, AND THE
[02:51:37] ISSUES SHAPING CAMPAIGN 2026. NO
[02:51:40] COMMENTATORS TELLING YOU WHAT TO THINK. NO. PARTIZAN SPIN. THE
[02:51:43] ROAD TO THE CAPITOL. ONLY ON
[02:51:48] C-SPAN. >> [MUSIC]
[02:51:52] >> MIKE SAID, BEFORE I HAPPEN TO LISTEN TO HIM.
[02:51:55] >> ON YOUR MIND TODAY. >> YES, SIR.
[02:51:57] >> UM, SINCE WRIGHT. REAGAN TOLD
[02:51:59] US HIS TWO BIGGEST LIES, THAT,
[02:52:02] NUMBER ONE, TAX CUTS PAY FOR THEMSELVES. AND THIS IS NOT
[02:52:06] CLASS WARFARE. U.S. DEBT IS UP
[02:52:12] OVER 3,900%. AND SINCE HIS AND
[02:52:16] SINCE REAGAN, THE TOP 1%, THEIR
[02:52:19] THEIR WEALTH HAS GONE UP 285%.
[02:52:22] THEIR INCOME HAS GONE UP 162%.
[02:52:25] NOW, FOR A MEDIAN INCOME PEOPLE,
[02:52:29] OUR WEALTH HAS GONE UP 60%, AND
[02:52:32] OUR INCOME HAS ONLY GONE UP 36%. AND I WOULD LIKE TO SAY ONE
[02:52:36] OTHER THING. I LIVE IN MARYLAND,
[02:52:39] DISTRICT ONE. PLEASE VOTE FOR
[02:52:41] DAN SCHWARTZ TO TAKE OUT ANDY
[02:52:43] HARRIS, ALSO KNOWN AS DR. NO.
[02:52:47] >> YEAH. YEAH. ANDY HARRIS IS, UH, IS A CURSE. HE HE WAS THE
[02:52:51] GUY WHO WAS CONSTANTLY MESSING WITH THE POLITICS IN WASHINGTON,
[02:52:54] D.C. WHEN I LIVED THERE, WHEN THEY TRIED TO BASICALLY LEGALIZE
[02:52:57] POT, HE, HE, UH, HE JUST WENT
[02:52:59] NUTS. UM, YEAH. YEAH, I'M WITH YOU, FRANK. THANK YOU. AND
[02:53:03] THANKS FOR WATCHING US ON C-SPAN. NICE. NICE TO HEAR FROM YOU.
[02:53:06] >> GOD BLESS. >> THANK YOU. UH, BLAKE IN PORTLAND. HEY, BLAKE. WHAT'S ON
[02:53:10] YOUR MIND TODAY? >> HEY, BROTHER. TOM. GOOD TO
[02:53:13] HEAR YOU, MAN. THANK YOU FOR
[02:53:15] TAKING MY CALL. UM, I JUST WANT
[02:53:19] TO OPEN WITH SOMETHING FROM THE NEW YORK TIMES ON SUNDAY. SPY MAGAZINE, THE NOW DEFUNCT,
[02:53:23] SATIRICAL MONTHLY SENT CHECKS
[02:53:26] FOR TINY AMOUNTS TO THE WEALTHIEST PEOPLE AS PART OF ITS
[02:53:29] SEARCH TO FIND AMERICA'S
[02:53:31] CHEAPEST ZILLIONAIRE. GUESS WHO
[02:53:34] WAS NAMED THE WINNER IN 1990 AFTER HE REDEEMED A CHECK FOR
[02:53:37] $0.13? >> WHO IS THAT?
[02:53:39] >> YES UH, DONALD TRUMP. I MEAN,
[02:53:43] HOW MANY HOW MANY NICKNAMES DO WE NEED FOR THE GUY? YES, I'M TRYING TO STAY ON THE AIR HERE.
[02:53:47] YES. DONALD TRUMP, DONALD TRUMP
[02:53:49] ISN'T >> MANGO
[02:53:53] >> UM, YEAH. SO. OKAY. KEEPING
[02:54:00] PERSON WITH A CHILD AND, YOU KNOW, WANTING THE COUNTRY I LOVE
[02:54:04] AND NOT TO GO DOWN THE RIVER
[02:54:06] LIKE, LIKE, LIKE, I MEAN, ARE
[02:54:09] THERE, ARE THERE LAWSUITS TAKEN UP AGAINST HIM WITH THE GUILFORD
[02:54:12] CASE, WITH EVERYTHING HE DOES, WITH EVERY LIE HE MAKES? LIKE,
[02:54:16] I, I'M LOOKING FOR A HERO FROM THE DEMOCRATS TO JUST, LIKE,
[02:54:19] JUST GO WITH IMPEACHMENT THINGS
[02:54:23] OR GO WITH THE MENTAL INCOMPETENCY OR GO WITH, LIKE,
[02:54:24] YOU KNOW, NOT FIT TO SERVE, 20,
[02:54:28] 28, ALL THESE LITTLE COURT WAS
[02:54:32] SET UP 50 YEARS AGO, HE CAN PUT THIS PLACE IN, LIKE YOU SAY, THE
[02:54:36] GUARDRAILS ARE OFF. HE PROMISED. AND YOU NEVER HAVE TO VOTE FOR
[02:54:38] ME AGAIN IN 2024. YOU KNOW, LIKE, IT'S, IT'S THE WRITING'S
[02:54:42] ON THE WALL. AND, AND, UH, I
[02:54:47] MEAN, ONE, HOW DO WE KEEP OUR ANXIETY DOWN? WE GOTTA HAVE, WE GOTTA HAVE SERENITY. YOU GOTTA
[02:54:51] HAVE, LIKE, YOU GOTTA BE KIND OF MONKISH ABOUT THE EMOTIONS THAT
[02:54:55] WE FEEL. >> THE BEST ANTIDOTE FOR
[02:54:57] ANXIETY. BLAKE. AND THERE'S NO SHORTAGE OF GOOD PSYCHOLOGICAL
[02:55:00] STUDIES ON THIS IS PROACTIVE ACTION. UM, YOU KNOW, DOING
[02:55:04] SOMETHING ABOUT IT. >> NO. KINGS FELT GREAT. NO KINGS FELT GREAT.
[02:55:07] >> I WANT TO. SAY NO. YEAH. BLAKE. >> THANK YOU. BUT. BUT CAN WE
[02:55:10] HAVE AN OVERHAUL OF THE GOVERNMENT? GET BIG BUSINESS OUT
[02:55:14] OF IT AND GET BIG, BIG MONEY? >> YEAH. WE NEED WE NEED TO OVERTURN THESE THESE INSANE
[02:55:18] DECISIONS THAT FIVE CORRUPT ON THE TAKE REPUBLICANS ON THE U.S.
[02:55:21] SUPREME COURT GAVE US THAT. THAT TURNED US INTO AN OLIGARCHY.
[02:55:24] BLAIR. THANK YOU. UH, RANDALL IN OKLAHOMA CITY. HEY, RANDALL,
[02:55:28] WHAT'S ON YOUR MIND TODAY
[02:55:33] >> PROFESSOR, SPANISH HISTORIAN,
[02:55:40] FOUND DOCUMENTS AND A ARCHIVE IN SPAIN THAT WAS A 1506 TRIAL OF
[02:55:43] CHRISTOPHER COLUMBUS AND HIS TWO BROTHERS, DIEGO AND BARTHOLOMEW.
[02:55:46] AND THEY WERE PUT IN CHAINS,
[02:55:48] BROUGHT BACK TO THE U.S., AND
[02:55:52] THEY WERE THERE WAS 23
[02:55:55] WITNESSES, ACCOUNTS AND
[02:55:59] TESTIMONY, 23 WITNESSES, A
[02:56:01] DESTROYED, WELL KILLED, ALL OVERWORKED, KILLED ALL THE
[02:56:04] PEOPLE IN HISPANIOLA, WHICH
[02:56:08] HAITI OR DOMINICAN REPUBLIC. RIGHT. I PROBABLY WHY THEY DID
[02:56:11] THAT WAS THERE'S NO MORE SILVER BECAUSE WE GOT NO MORE MINERS TO
[02:56:14] MINE IT. THEY'RE ALL DEAD. WELL,
[02:56:18] ANYWAY, THEY TOOK EVERY BIT.
[02:56:20] THEY TOOK HIS UM ADMIRAL OF THE
[02:56:22] SEAS AWAY FROM HIM. TITLE, WHICH IS A BIG DEAL. AND THEY TOOK ALL
[02:56:26] OF HIS MONEY AND ALL OF HIS
[02:56:28] BROTHER'S MONEY. SO IN HIS OWN
[02:56:31] TIME, HE WAS DISCREDITED AS A MURDERER AND A KILLER IN HIS OWN
[02:56:35] TIME, 1506 TRIAL. >> INTERESTING. I'M UNAWARE OF
[02:56:38] THAT, RANDALL. SO I CAN'T, YOU KNOW, VERIFY THAT, BUT THAT'S
[02:56:41] FASCINATING. THANK YOU. KAREN AND JOLIET, ILLINOIS. KAREN, I
[02:56:44] HAVE ABOUT A MINUTE LEFT HERE ON THE SHOW TODAY. >> OH, MY.
[02:56:48] >> OKAY, I'LL MAKE IT QUICK. UH, YES, IT IS. UM, THE NO KING'S RALLY AND ALL THAT. ALL
[02:56:52] THAT STUFF IS GREAT, BUT I'M LOOKING FOR A SOLUTION.
[02:56:55] SOMETHING LIKE A ORDER OF PROTECTION, A PETITION FOR THE
[02:56:58] AMERICAN PEOPLE. IT'S ABOUT 345
[02:57:00] MILLION OF US. MAYBE 315 MILLION SIGNATURES OF A.
[02:57:04] >> PETITION COMING UP ON
[02:57:08] NOVEMBER 3rd. IT'S CALLED A VOTE. >> I UNDERSTAND THE VOTE. THE VOTE IS NOT GETTING US ANYWHERE RIGHT NOW. THERE'S TOO MUCH
[02:57:12] CORRUPTION THIS MAN HOLDS A
[02:57:13] QUARTER OF $1 BILLION, WHICH IS
[02:57:17] LIKE HE COULD PAY OFF HALF OF THE DEBT IN THIS COUNTRY.
[02:57:20] INSTEAD, HE'S CUTTING THINGS
[02:57:22] THAT
[02:57:31] >> THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE TALKING ABOUT GENERAL STRIKE. KAREN. THERE ARE. KAREN, I GOT
[02:57:35] TO RUN. I'M SORRY. I'M OUT OF TIME. BUT THANK YOU. THAT WAS A GREAT WAY TO TO WRAP UP THE
[02:57:38] PROGRAM. BRILLIANT. THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US TODAY. WE'LL BE BACK TOMORROW.
[02:57:43] SAME TIME, SAME PLACE. IN THE MEANTIME, DON'T FORGET, DEMOCRACY IS NOT A SPECTATOR
[02:57:46] SPORT. IT REQUIRES ALL OF US. IT INCLUDES YOU. SO GET OUT THERE,
[02:57:49] GET ACTIVE. TAG. YOU'RE IT. HAVE A GREAT AFTERNOON. BE GOOD
[02:57:52] TO YOURSELF AND THE FOLKS AROUND YOU. STAY SAFE. EAT YOUR
[02:57:56] VEGGIES, GET YOUR EXERCISE. WE GOT A LOT OF WORK TO DO THIS FALL. JUST THREE WEEKS HERE, AND
[02:58:00] I'LL CATCH UP WITH YOU TOMORROW
[02:58:04] >> [MUSIC]
[02:58:07] >> AND YOU'VE BEEN WATCHING OUR SIMULCAST OF THE THOM HARTMANN
[02:58:10] PROGRAM, HOSTED BY THE PROGRESSIVE POLITICAL COMMENTATOR THOM HARTMANN IN
[02:58:14] PORTLAND, OREGON. COMING UP SHORTLY, WE'LL BRING YOU
[02:58:16] CONSERVATIVE COMMENTATOR HUGH HEWITT, HOSTING HIS HUGH HEWITT
[02:58:19] SHOW TO TALK ABOUT NEWS OF THE DAY. LIVE FROM THE NATION'S
[02:58:23] CAPITOL. THAT'S STRAIGHT AHEAD
[02:58:25] HERE ON C SPAN TWO.
[02:58:29] >> LATER TODAY, UTAH'S REPUBLICAN GOVERNOR, SPENCER COX, SITS DOWN FOR A
[02:58:32] CONVERSATION WITH FORMER OBAMA SENIOR ADVISER DAVID AXELROD.
[02:58:36] THE DISCUSSION, WHICH WILL PROMOTE CIVIL DISAGREEMENT, WILL FOCUS ON THE POLITICAL CULTURE
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